News is starting to leak out about the custody hearing for Thomas and Kathryn that occurred in Charleston yesterday. According to the extensive parenting report that was tediously hashed out over a year ago, Kathryn is entitled to 50/50 custody of the kids after successfully meeting all the demands of the parenting plan. Kathryn completed the plan with flying colors and has been drug/alcohol tested for over a year now. Thomas has been posting videos of Thomas and Kathryn co-parenting and getting along on Instagram. I was expecting them to go to court and for Kathryn to agree to 50/50 custody.
I am hearing that is not what happened. My understanding is that Kathryn asked for full custody with child support. Thomas contested that which is not terribly surprising. But I am hearing that he also contested 50/50 custody which should be a given based on the parenting plan. I am not sure what the basis is to contest the original parenting agreement is now that Kathryn has completed the terms other than just being a dick. UPDATED! Now I am hearing he agreed to the 50/50 but was contesting the CHILD SUPPORT. That makes more sense. They are supposedly going back to court on Friday.
This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me since the parenting plan that was agreed to by Thomas was supposed to result in 50/50 custody. In fact, she should have 50/50 custody now or at least something close to it. Perhaps Thomas wants to change the visitation schedule?
I didn’t get much information at all, but the gist of it was that Thomas is not agreeing to basically anything and they are all going to have to go back to court again. Sorry for the sketchy details, to be honest I’m not super interested in this topic at the moment, but I know that y’all have been asking for information. I’ll update if I hear anything more concrete.
That’s so strange, but those two mix like oil and water, so who knows what happened between the dancing instagram and the court date.
Thanks for the update. Love you,TT. ❤️
Thomas is a disgusting man & is NOT attractive he would be lucky to have Kathryn instead he chooses a “gold digger” wit a big mouth……he’s gonna get what he deserves!!
I think it’s sad that these children have had to see and go through all they have at such a young age. It’s terrible at any age . Thomas may appear to be a good father on film and or? But a good parent doesn’t allow a child to be around different women. These kids shouldn’t even be on a reality show! I hope that Kathryn and Thomas can co-parenti together and put jealousy and the past behind them . Thomas really needs to grow up and realize everyone makes mistakes, he should know better than anyone.Kathryn is still very young and has so far proven her children come first.Thomas continues to act like he’s as young as Kathryn and parties with all types of people. When will he realize that it’s ok to feel young and have a social life, however it’s time to be a grown man stop trying to impress gold diggers let the reality show go he doesn’t need the money,and be the father those children deserve!
I agree with every word you said. You’re insightful and a smart woman.
Have any of you noticed that he looks like a ” possum ” when he laughs? No personality!! Any man who is a true father would never let another woman speak of their child’s mother the way he did. He sat there and let everything be said and never opened his mouth unless it was only about him and the law being involved. Just from the tv show is enough evidence to take his parental parenting rights away. It was never about the children it was all about his attraction for each female. The threat of disrespect to the mother and children, was disrespectful to him was nothing but words or he would have put a stop to it all from the beginning. He let it all happen it is on HIM !! Ashley should never had the options of saying anything to Katherine period, there should have been charges taken out on Thomas and Ashley for Verbal and physical threats concerning child custody.
I think that Thomas is the one that needs to be drug tested and that Catherine should have 100% custody. What’s wrong with this picture? all Katherine did was smoke some pot which is legal in most States while Thomas the one that was a coke dealer. This makes me sick he’s so freaking cheap he should be paying her 10 grand a month for those children.
Like Thomas has said before “I have the power” He doesn’t want to have anything equal with Kathryn. He wants power in court because he has none in his life now, especially with the allegations against him. Thomas will get very ugly.
I totally agree. And I truly think that Katherine should get full custody. Thomas is always out with the boys and then he moves this monster gold digger Ashley in. Katherine seems more stable and children need that. I’m on team Katherine thank you Dianna Sayers
Will get?
every episode shows Thomas drunk and walking his sober promises back. Is he being tested? Does he have a parenting plan? the parent who the children live with during the week for k-12 is the primary caregiver and the one who receives child support that will equalize each parents home life to avoid alienation of affection. This also puts Ashley Jacobs on very thin ice. You can’t say things about either parent that will adversely effect the children’s view of that parent. Catherine should keep fighting for primary custody and 50/50 non school time. She should also ask for 5,000 a month per child. Child support is based upon income.
I agree with you. Thomas needs to answer to the same requirements that Kathryn has. He’d rather pay nannies than a hefty child support to Kathryn. Kathryn has referred to him as “frugal” but he’s been blowing money on Ashley to “pay” her to stay around. He needs a. Permanent-looking relationship to help his image in court. Thomas is such an unmitigated Tool.
You are right!! Thomas doesn’t raise his children. Nannies do and Ashley doesn’t need to be around them!
This whole situation is just Wrong !!! It’s totally Wrong to see Kathryn going through Drug and Alcohol Testing while Thomas Drinks on the Freaking Show Right in Front of Her !!! Even Offering Her a Drink this Past Episode … How Does AnyOne Know That Kathryn has a Drug or Alcohol Problem ??? Who Said She Did ??? Thomas ?? And How Can We Trust Anything He Says ??? He Uses His Money To Speak for HimSelf and Do EveryThing For Him … I Feel Like if Kathryn or Her Family had as Much Money as Thomas Ravenal, Kathryn Wouldn’t have even had to go through the Drug and Alcohol Program for over a Year Now !!! I know I can’t be the only one Thinking this … Come On People Let’s Be Real Here for a Change and Speak the Truth … Of Course Kathryn’s Not Perfect but Be Honest Thomas went to Jail for gosh sakes for Cocaine or have We All Just Forgotten About That Because We Live in the South and Down South We Tend to Shuffle What We Don’t Want to Talk About Under the Rug (TRUE) I Should Know I’m From Alabama I Live It EveryDay of My Life Y’all … I’m just a Person that Speaks From the Heart and Tells and Sees the Truth for What It Is … Blessings 2 All Y’all ?
We know Kathryn was on drugs because she failed the court ordered drug tests, that is when the court gave Thomas full legal and physical custody. This past year’s court ordered parenting plan and mandatory drug testing have likely saved Kathryn’s life.
We also know Thomas was on drugs because he served time for it. Now he’s being accused or rape in two different instances. He needs testing, counseling and more than likely prison time! He has gotten an easy ride his entire life. There are people serving life in prison for less than what he’s done. Allegedly.
Prior to the original custody order Thomas and Kathryn were both drug tested. (There have been multiple social media disputes about the validity of Thomas’s test, but it doesn’t matter, the court accepted the results.) Kathryn failed her’s, Thomas passed his. The court will not and should not order continued testing for him without proof; accounts from random social media posts, blog posts, reality tv clips, someone that saw something 4 years ago in a backyard on Flood St. do not count in court.
And folks! really! you don’t want this kind of evidence to be admitted into court.
The recent allegations against Thomas are still just that, allegations. I believe them, you believe them, but that is not enough. The po-po will do an investigation, then will file charges if the evidence warrants such. They will do a investigation thoroughly because they know Thomas has the money to fight hard. Until charges are filed the allegations will not, and should not, be used against him in the custody case.
I believe Thomas is going to get his due. I hope the investigation is thorough and bullet-proof when they finally charge him. I hope Kathryn gets 50% custody, child-support, and still be required to take drug tests, though less frequently. She has only been sober for a year, she need not rush her recovery.
Ashley is going to get her’s too, just in a different way.
“(There have been multiple social media disputes about the validity of Thomas’s test, but it doesn’t matter, the court accepted the results.) ”
It matters to those kids. Thomas appears drunk and high week after week on a TV show. Kathryn whose issues were supposedly pot and alcohol are behind her if they ever were more of an issue than anyone else,
Kathryn is recovering addict and will always be, It is quiet obvious she doesn’t want to see Thomas with anyone. Patricia definitely sees Kathryn for the chameleon she is.I believe if the custody is 50/50 she should support the children when they are with her, Thomas should when they are with him, his girlfriend is allowed to feel and speak her opinion of Kathryn as long as it is not in front of the children.
It is quiet obvious she doesn’t want to see Thomas with anyone. Bwahahahaha I had to stop reading from there.
Amazing how someone can be so clueless.
Well luckily Kathryn did not have many years as an addict and has turned her life around. Thomas is still an addict – clearly alcoholic and most likely on drugs as well. He is getting to the point he will never have any ability to clean himself up unless incarcerated. His behavior shows bursts of irrational and angry behaviour that can best be explained by substance abuse.
Kathryn has a huge interest in how Thomas is looking after her children. This is the only interest I see she has in him now.
Ashley is or was a girlfriend (only) of Thomas – and only a recent girlfriend when they were filming. She had and has no right at all to voice her opinions on Kathryn as a mother to anyone except perhaps Thomas. She should mind her own business. Even Thomas has tried to get this across to Ashley.
TT has explained on the thread how the courts usually view and try to even up to some extent any major disparities in parent wealth.
It would take a pretty low life scumbag of a dad not to want to help his children be as comfortable at their mom’s house as they are at his if he has the means to do so. If he can rent a place for a woman that he’s known for a couple of months then he has the means to help Kathryn live somewhere that their children are comfortable and have room to grow.
As a 63 year old woman, I am very uncomfortable with how Kathryn is treated. The balance of power has been out of whack since she and Thomas got together. When I watched the replay of the seasons the other night, I realized what a baby Kathryn was. Yet, with all the “elders” in the group, particularly the women, there was a definite “Lord of the Flies” mentality and attitude. I am very proud of her and her peers for supporting her (this excludes Cameran who is a fame whore and very impressed with herself). Some of the cast has given complements to Kathryn regarding her sobriety and change of behavior. I think they need to critically think a little deeper about how much “their good ole boy” Thomas had to do with instigating and poking a young woman that had two of his children (probably the best thing he has ever accomplished!), and, at a time when Kathryn should have been able to focus on her children and have some stability, Thomas’ crazy pathology had him providing everything but that. Now that Kathryn has pulled herself up, he continues the passive aggressive undermining with that over-bronzed anorexic who is single handedly ruining the image of registered nurses, like myself. I am sickened that Thomas with all his personality disorders, i.e. narcissism, grandiosity, etc., obvious alcoholism and I guarantee you cocaine habit (remember his meltdown towards Chelsea on the Ferry? There’s an example of a cocaine rage) enjoys his privilege of power due to his family name and money despite having a history of deviant behavior and untrustworthiness. There is clearly a very sexist and misogynistic vibe exhibited by all the men on that show. I can only hope that watching that show may invoke some of the same reactions from women that happened nationally in the U.S. with the #metoo movement after the horrible and horrendous actions of our “President”. Have your sister’s backs ladies!
right on with the drugs. Thomas and Ashley act like they are blown away. Ashley’s aggressive and irrational comments are a perfect example. She is a dangerous mouth piece for Thomas. SEND HER BACK TO CALIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Ashley.
I’m with you
I agree with you, he’s got a record. Like you said in the South we sweep things under the rug that we don’t want to talk about. I’m team Katherine.
I am also from Alabama and have to say that hasn’t my experience at all. The difference is that the Ravenal name (for some reason only the Charlotte “justice” system can explain) is still with influence in S.C. Is it fair? Absolutely not. But I venture to say this happens in every community in America, north or south. I’ve never seen any reason this man should get preferential treatment by honest means. He’s obviously a drunk and a horn dog. But the fix is in. Where’s Gloria Allred when you need her??
This is what I don’t get… Why doesn’t Thomas have to pay any child support for one thing? If he’s soooooo rich then why is protesting against that so much? Why did only Katherine have to do all of those drug and alcohol tests and not Thomas? I want to know if Thomas’s sexual assault claims were brought up on Katherine’s behalf? I sure would’ve brought that up to gain more custody, especially since one was the nanny and she said he did assault her while the babies were in the room. I would also bring up Thomas’s and Ashley’s drinking and anger issues. As well as who can and cannot be around the children during holidays or if you’re in a new relationship. The south has some crazy laws pertaining to children, if they {Katherine and Thomas} were married, this would be a total different ballgame…. that is for sure! I’m also wondering since the Ravenel Family is such a big name in South Carolina, did that have any barings on the outcome between Katherine and Thomas?
Also… this has nothing to do with their court case… I really want to know why Thomas isn’t gunna go to the Southern Charm Reunion but he’s allowed to go back for the next season? I know there’s gunna be a lot of questions about this… I’m sure everyone will say “No Comment” or “We just have to wait until the trial” but … Seriously? This is the only show I can think of where someone has been accused… TWICE, I might add..of sexual assault, and hasn’t been let go!
Ok.. So there’s my questions and thoughts…
He is not going back next season. He was fired.
Shouldn’t he be charged at this point? It’s been over a year on some of these accusations?
The behavior of Thomas is typical of men when they have no other way to gain some power over a woman. They ALWAYS do it by with holding money. Ask any woman that is divorced.
He also doesn’t care about what’s best for the children, it’s only what’s best for him and what make him look good. He’d rather spend all his money for lawyers than give Kathryn a dime in support. You bet he’ll fight that.
Poor Kathryn! She’s working so very hard to do everything she needs to. She deserves what she earned and those kids deserve to have their Mommy at least 50% of the time. Even if she got child support, we know from before that it wouldn’t be much because of SC Law and them not ever being married. He’s being a dick!!
I don’t know anything about the law in SC, but in California child support can be granted whether the parents were married or not. One thing I don’t understand though is why either one would pay the other any child support, if they have 50/50 custody? Granted, Thomas probably has a much larger income than Kathryn, so perhaps that makes a difference? It’s much easier for him to absorb the cost of child-rearing that it is for Kathryn, especially if you figure in school costs, etc.
It was smart of Kathryn to request full custody, and settle for 50/50. It’s good to have 100% custody on the record, whether granted or not, prior to any trouble Thomas may end up in. Also, 50/50 custody probably sounds pretty good to him, compared to having his name dragged through the mud fighting her being granted full custody.
They use a child support calculator in SC. Variables include nights spent at which parents home, income if both, education costs and who doors the bill, health insurance etc. Google it, anyone can enter info and come up with the appropriate amount.
Foots, not doors
also which one takes the kids as dependents on income tax. who will take ‘head of household’ tax status.
The calculator online only provides a base amount.
They issue child support when there’s 50/50 so that the children live in the same manner in both households. It’s so that the children don’t prefer being with the one parent who has the means to take vacations, buy expensive toys, ect while the other parent can’t afford those same things.
That’s a good point! If the mom lives in a 2-bedroom apartment where the kids share a room, it can’t hold a candle to a dad with a swimming pool, tennis court, horses, and trips to Disneyland.
Agree. Lots of child support orders contemplate the wealthy parent to provide money for a similar (or at least not drastically different) household.
He is a dick.
Thomas is so old looking he wants Katherine back so bad But I hope she never take that old man back she can co parent her children just as well as Thomas Katherine stay strong and leave that old fart alone even though Katherine thought Thomas will always take care of her Katherine get with Shep he’s available
I was wondering about this. Good for Kathryn, and so typical of Thomas. I hope the court places those two sweet children with Kathryn full time.
I agree the kids belong with their mom with dad having visitation. And he needs to pay for his children. She wasn’t just a donor here, they were together at the time!
UPDATED WITH A FEW CORRECTIONS.
I don’t think Thomas would be on the hook for a ton of child support with 50/50 custody.
Crazy. Is he going to be in the poor house losing Kathryn’s $100.00 a month and having to pay her something? What an asshole
I’m in awe of the amount of money he must actually have!
He maintains his plantation which must have huge property taxes and groundskeepers or lawn service, plus housekeeper.
He keeps at least one polo pony so add in the cost of boarding.
He used to have a beautiful historic house in town (which he sold), and I believe now rents the house they film in. But even just renting it, there are expenses. The housekeeper and nanny for a couple.
Also he’s supporting Ashley! The apartment and whatever bills she has, which I’m sure are above basic. She spent $10,000 on three outfits. I wonder if she gets beauty treatments such as manicures, waxing, tanning.
Beyond this, he seems to go out to eat/drink a lot and probably drives a nice newer car. I’m not a car person so I haven’t paid attention.
Maybe if he married Ashley he’ll let her move in with him. LOL! Then the rent he’s paying on her apartment can go to pay Kathryn’s since they both live in the same complex.
Huh???? How do you know they live in the same complex???? If this is true…who first resided in it and was the second female aware of the other already settled in there???
Even50/50there is a custodial parent and the none custodial parent pays child support. That’s how it is in Ky.
I don’t think Thomas should have custody of either child. Katherine so much better now but needs to drop the Tanner. Either get spray tanned, lay in tanning bed but stop with the self Tanner. I’m on Katherines side.
It’s like that in CO too. If both parents share 50/50 custody but one parent has an income significantly higher than the other they’ll still have to pay child support. They won’t pay as much as they would if it wasn’t 50/50 but they will have to pay something. I bet Thomas is one of those guys that says he doesnt want to give Kathryn money but he’ll buy things the kids need instead. Which I think is a way of being controlling. I hope everything works out for them and they come to a reasonable and fair arrangement. The kids are what matters the most.
I agree. But he just seems the type to not relinquish any control. I am certain that with all that’s going on with him, this is probably his last bit of control over Kathryn and for him, that’s worse than losing the kids. I’m judging him I know. But I’ve had a few run ins with a meglomaniac. So forgive the harsh views.
I’m judging the hell out of him too! He’s shown his true colors on the show. I think it’s a fair assessment that he uses the kids to control Kathryn. I always wonder if he’s a hands on dad with the kids when he has them or if that’s only for the cameras. Like the nanny really raises the kids when they’re with Thomas but for filming he shows up and plays the role.
I would like to know about the “1;30, 2:30, 3:30 4:30, 5:30” staying out late at nights that Ashley cited in one conversation with Thomas. It was about him staying out all night partying with his friends. That sure wouldn’t fly in my court room.
I completely agree. It always looks forced and uncomfortable when he’s dressing or feeding them. Again I’m only observing an edited version of the time, but it seems like they’re trying to show him in a positive way and it’s still awkward. So yeah, I think what we see is literally what we get. Poor kids are used as props so he can get the sympathy from women and then get the booty. Kathryn looks natural and honest with them. She seems to be doing a great job with no nanny. I really hope the judge sees what we see and gives the right decision for their sake.
Yes, he doesn’t seem like he’s really a hands-on dad. The way he told Ashley that he helped Kathryn with things at the party~ when all we saw him do was helping her put trinkets in gift bags after Kathryn sweetly asked “Would you be interested in helping fill the goody bags?” as if she might be asking too much.
Possibly he called in the pizza order.
That made me just laugh, really loud. And I am secretly reading this a my church group. Lol for real.
He’s drunk all the time, so how great of a dad can he be? Nanny is raising the kids. I think he does more than just drink. That probably explains his periodic rages.
I am wondering why Katherine has to take a drug test before she can have her children and Tommy Boy doesn’t have to blow into a breathalizer. He is drunk or drinking every time you see him. Are there two sets of rules here?
That bothers me also, they should both be held to the same standards.
It doesn’t bother me that Kathryn was drug tested but it bothers me that TR could decide when and how frequently she was tested. I’ve never seen a judge give that power to a spouse or SO. It does bother me that TR didn’t also have to sumit for testing. That video Lauren shot of him naked and ranting after he fell in the pool with Kensie proves that he was under the influence while with the children and the police have that video. Add to that proof of his past drug use and that should be enough for a family court judge to order him to test also.
Not so, she could have them on the weekends only and still receive support. Google child support calculator SC and play around with the numbers. It will surprise you.
Wanted to know-someone mentioned a guardian Ad Litem. Do they have one? The courts in Connecticut appointed one for my nieces and the estate was not nearly what Thomas and Katherine’s (sp?) is. Thoughts??
The level to which people will stoop in these types of hearings is astounding. I am not surprised that TR got ugly. He essentially took advantage of Kathryn’s good nature and willingness to coparent in a congenial way so that he could take and post photos for PR purposes. He then turned on her it court. So slimy.
I hope for the children’s sake that the courts will return Katherine’s children to her. Katherine has been required to jump through hoops to prove she is a fit mother. Hopefully the courts will allow footage of this season so they can see how critical it is that the children be returned to their mother.
Thomas is a disgusting womanizing rapist. The kids will be better off with Kathryn being the primary parent. He’s in the middle of being sued for heinous behavior towards women. He also on the brink of being fired from SouthernCharm. That’s long overdue if you ask me…and throw in his crazy girlfriend Asshley. Kathryn should win no problem. If Thomas wasn’t rich in a conservative city…he wouldve lost his kids yrs ago. I hope the judge is a woman.
Do we think the request for full custody was a recommendation on the part of Kathryn’s attorney’s to negotiate down for more child support and time with the children not necessarily wanting full custody?
No. The agreement already gave her joint custody and unless Tomas is convicted or settles one or more of the charges or is proven to be a bad parent the judge wont change the order so asking for more time/money as a negotiating tactic would be stupid. She is asking for full custody because she probably wants her kids, she doesn’t want them around his girlfriend (s) and his temper, she is concerned for her kids. She also knows him better than anyone and in her heart she knows the charges are either true or false, if she thinks they are true she needs to get custody of the kids and support totaling at least what he was willing to pay his nanny.
You people on here acting like Thomas just decided to be evil. Has anyone forgotten Kathryn was on DRUGS? So now you people and the cast whom once hated the H ELL out of her is acting like she is now an angel?
Where do you think Kathryn got the drugs FROM? Thomas still seems to be on coke. Kathryn has tested clean for over a year. Thomas is not being tested. Apparently it snows A LOT in Charleston.
Everyone forgets that Thomas went to jail and ruined his good family name for selling drugs. Yes he did his time but being a native South Carolinian it’s sickening to see him sit back on his family name and use it for his own womanizing ways. If they moved court out of Charleston Katherine would have sole custody and Thomas would be the one having to jump through hoops. So proud of Katherine !!!
It is still hard to believe that some adults in Charleston (or anywhere)eliza spend their lives drinking and drugging and staying out til all hours.
Oh yeah. Thomas is very pushy with the drinks so I can imagine that’s how he would be with the drugs.
In one scene Thomas and Ashley were in a bar and she said something about not wanting to drink and he was encouraging her. She said no. When the waitress came over, he ordered a drink for Ashley!
He’ always offering drinks to Kathryn! Even as recently as the vacation house.
Ya know, Kathryn wasn’t my favorite in the beginning. I think she was young and fell for TRav’s BS. Did she say and do some things she shouldn’t have? Absolutely. However, TRav is no angel. I mean, let’s be honest, had he not been caught for doing/dealing drugs and went to prison, he’d likely still be doing/dealing AND still be in public office. At least Kathryn had the sense to check herself into rehab and get her life back on track. She’s killin’ it at life right now and passing all her drug tests. On the other hand, TRav doesn’t seem to be fairing to well, on or off the show. He’s been accused of some awful things and his behavior is all over the place. I’m willing to bet, if he were tested weekly (sometimes daily) for drugs and alcohol, he would likely fail from one or the other!
So no, I do not think anyone has forgot about Kathryn, but they realize she’s only human and humans make mistakes. They are giving her another chance, because they see the work she’s done and how hard she’s trying. I think they also are realizing who Thomas really is and they are starting to put two-and-two together with him….like how he treated Kathryn and how that likely sparked some of her behavior. It’s psych101!
Well said!!!
Lololol. Today I would fail. FAIL across the board. Would you be safer leaving your kids with me than
thomas? Uh. Fuck yeah.
She is closer to an angel ? then Thomas will ever be, and that girlfriend over step her rights. The kids are Thomas and Kathryn not hers and she should button out, and people do change and she is only in her 20 s Thomas is thirty years older then her is he still acts stupid.
Wow I don’t like you
This made me laugh DaveO succinct and to the point!
You seem to forget T Rav is a felon!!!
Did you forget that while Kathryn was on said drugs, THOMAS chose to procreate with her TWICE.
Supposedly he was sober at that time – at least Kathryn had the excuse of drugs and is now one year clean and sober.
Thomas hasn’t undergone any sort of therapy or AA or rehab. Last year doesn’t matter. I suspect Kathryn is now the more stable parent.
Didn’t Kathryn test dirty for marijuana, grass … I don’t recall her testing dirty for anything else. I might be wrong.
Nevertheless – Your comment was way too harsh and you need to give Kathryn credit for changing her life. She isn’t the same person she was as a young impressionable girl when TRav was first messing around with her. Thomas, on the other hand, hasn’t changed his ways at all. All the cast members (not counting Ashley the Shrew) see the changes in her, and are relating to her as a mature woman, and the fact they’re all rallying so supportively around her shows me that she’s doing well. Never thought I’d see the day when Patricia was on her side, but that’s the case now, and that says a lot.
Kathryn grew up. She was acting crazy for a while, and then really turned it around. Thomas never will grow up or sober up, and he’s showing a dangerous lack of control with his temper. He’s Peter Pan, but nasty. I’ve noticed how uncomfortable he is with the kids, as was mentioned. And does anybody remember the time he allowed the little girl to do a photo shoot with her mom? When the little girl cried for her mom (instead of consoling the child) he looked furious and told her to get in the car! I really felt like he was going to bawl the kid out as soon as they quit taping. 50-50 custody or not, as soon as those kids go to school they really need to have a primary residence, and I sure hope it’s with Kathryn. In fact, I think Trav needs supervised visitation and regular drug testing.
Thank you TT! This is really great news!
It sounds like Kathryn had good representation for that court visit. Of course she set the bar high! (Elizabeth? take notes) I have way more to say but my real life is here and I need to participate. I’m sooo happy she went in strong.
I think she has a crap lawyer. That’s the problem.
I have gotten that impression.
No her lawyer is fine. Anyone who live here knows he has the police sheriff’s Dept and judges in his pocket. Just ask the man who he hurt on a four wheeler that he crashed and hurt his friend (on drugs and alcohol) noone from the midlands to the low country like him his family or the people he runs with. There will be a lot of stuff going down in Charleston if he gets off the charges.
I wonder when they will decide about charges. It seems like it’s been a while, but it took a long time with Weinstein in NY.
Who has the police, sheriff’s department and judges in his pocket? You mean Thomas, right? When was the accident where someone got hurt? How do you get around it if he really has that much pull? I wish I knew the answer to that – I’d hate to see him get off scot-free, but it’s hard to get around the good-old-boy network. Fingers crossed that justice wins out.
Ravenal family has those same police in their pocket also. Kathryn’s attorney could be working both sides. He has not helped Kathryn so far.
How does Thomas get custody of little children, when he’s drunk all the time? He could accidentally kill them, run over them, drop something on them, or who knows what else. He is not a fit parent. He does not lead the life of a responsible adult, much less father.
No one can ask anything of the man who was injured on the 4 wheeler. He has passed.
Ravenel has everyone in his back pocket.
Yep
The family court system in the Carolina’s supports the “good old boys.” Unfortunately, Thomas “out-lawyers” Kathryn too. Double whammy. If Thomas’ bills are paid out of his trust fund, it won’t factor into the SC child support calculator. It will be Thomas’ W2’s vs Kathryn’s W2’s; and it looks like Thomas just lost his paying job on Southern Charm. Under the backwards Carolina law, Kathryn will likely keep paying Thomas, or they will call it even. It’s unlikely she will be awarded child support. No joke. I know because I pay my ex, and we don’t have 50/50. I have 75, he has 25. And I still pay, plus I pay all medical benefits/bills. Trust funds in the Carolina’s are not included.
It’s highly unlikely Thomas has a “trust fund” per se.
Kathryn needs to start a gofundme for her legal fees that we can all contribute to and show Thomas who really has the power!
I don’t know what her attorney has in mind but I wonder all Thomas drinking and partying has something to do with it all. He needs to grow up and stop acting like a teenager!
Lathryn was accused of not being at Kensies recital…. BIG LIE! Why do people try to hurt her and her children? Shameful! She deserves custody and plenty of financial help from their dad. If he can pay 10k for 3 dresses for Ashley, he can support those children.
Excellent point about the 10K for the dresses!
Except that was bullshit. Gwynn’s gave the alleged hooker some clothes for the promo, or more likely she didn’t get any of those illfitting clothes and nothing she tried on combined was 10K.
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I wonder if Ashley has been a little bird whispering in Thomas’s ear? It doesn’t make sense that he wouldn’t agree to 50/50 custody since Kathryn has fulfilled every condition of the parenting plan. I can also understand Kathryn not wanting the children around Ashley, given Ashley’s very public attempts to belittle Kathryn and portray her as a bad mother. Even Ashley’s comment that the nanny complained the children didn’t sleep well when they got back from Kathryn’s could be explained by the children not wanting to leave their mom and having a different routine. Ashley made it seem as though Kathryn had done something to traumatize the children so they couldn’t relax enough to go to sleep. What rubbish! They are obviously very happy around their mother, and their father come to that, but you can’t tell me that Ashley turns from a complaining, jealous, bitter shrew into Mary Poppins. Good luck, Kathryn. Stay strong and fight for those babies.
I took that comment as Kathryn not following the kids bedtime schedule. Kids need consistency.
I took it as the kids’ reaction to changing houses. My DD used to come home from her father’s house “flying high” and getting her to sleep was hard. It may be too stimulating for a bit until they get used to it.
(but I know Ashley was trying to suggest it was because Kathryn was doing something wrong)
I took it as the kids rather be at their mother’s house. It has to be chaos in Thomas home being shuttled from a loving mother into the arms of a drunk, a harpy shrew and a nanny. Home will always be where they feel the safest. Thomas lurches from one drunken party to the next, the girlfriend has her own agenda and that’s to get Thomas to marry her by pretending she would be a better mother to those kids and a nanny who has no problem running to the crazy wanna be wife to gossip. The nanny needs to be fired. The kids given to their mother for full custody, Thomas needs to be charged for his crimes and Harpy needs to head back to the Cali polo fields.
Ashley is a fucking liar. Early this year before I found out how hateful she is, she would call me and every other woman she thought would be sympathetic to her. She told me about the hooker rumor being why she and Thomas briefly broke up last year. She said her sister even blocked her because of it. She was telling me all about the Luzanne stuff. When she did mention Kathryn, she said that Patricia wouldn’t allow her in her house because she’s a kleptomaniac and she was fired from Gwynn’s for stealing. I have always had a soft spot for Kathryn and told her so. Then, she proceeds to tell me about how the kids were when they got back from staying with Kathryn. It was the same stuff that was brought up in court last year. The final straw with her for me was when she said Kathryn was out drunk in April. I said I didn’t believe it and where was the proof? She said Kathryn was falling down drunk. I told her it was extremely reckless to make those kinds of statements knowing they were lies. I said it could screw up her life if people believed it. Then she said Kathryn wasn’t being tested for alcohol, only drugs and she was allowed to drink. THE LIES! THE LIES! I feel like a dumbass for ever talking to her, but that’s before I knew she was a viper. Some women are still defending her, but what she tried to do to Kathryn was the last straw for me.
Amazing to have had the experience of actually talking her and getting to see the lies pile up like that! What a snake of a woman! Really evil.
nancy pants, how did she have your number? Are/were you a friend? Or just a social media supporter? That sounds bizarre that she would be calling you, unless you have some history with her? Just curious….
Apparently, anyone who was nice to her and of a certain age, she would be extremely kind and appreciative and ask for you to DM her so she could talk to you. (Me) 99% of it was the Luzanne stuff and all I will say that in my personal experience, Luzanne wasn’t being as kind as she wanted others to think. I’ll leave it at that because I know TT has great affection for her and out of respect to Tamara, I won’t say anything further about her. Ashley called me late one night on her way back to her apartment and we talked for over 3 hours. She talked, I mostly listened. When we spoke, it was always very lengthy. We would text a bit and the last time she called me was to try to convince me Kathryn was out drunk. I had tweeted about that being a harmful statement. Sometimes when we’d text, she would say she needed to call me to talk soon, like that was something wonderful for me. ? I realize she was using me and a lot of other women. A few of them, one in particular would go for blood against anyone who said anything negative about Ashley. This particular woman got so involved that people were calling her house! I don’t fight for someone I really don’t know. Bottom line, Ashley knew that she was going to come off looking bad and was trying to do damage control. She told me a producer told her at a dinner (she didn’t say it was the infamous Hilton Head dinner) that it would be a great time to confront Kathryn. Obviously, I had no idea how horrible it was going to be. As soon as the first HH episode aired, I blocked her on everything and my phone. Before that, the last time I heard from her was on Mother’s Day. She sent a nice message but it wasn’t personalized so I knew it was a cut and paste. I thanked her and she never responded. Oh! I forgot that she said when she and Thomas went into the bathroom at Shep’s it’s because she had a bleeding hemorrhoid. I do wish she would get help, because she really is wasting away. I don’t wish ill on anyone. It was an interesting “friendship” to say the least.
Do you think what she told you about Luzanne was true? At this stage I could believe Ashley would lie about anything and could even fake texts and messages said to have come from someone else. What you have written is disturbing and shows you were manipulated by Ashley and ‘groomed’ to see things a certain way before they screened. So glad you went with your gut feelings in the end.
Let me put it this way. I followed Luzanne on her personal page as well as her WLPA Page. I never knew of anything going on until she herself posted about it in a story. She outed herself because until she mentioned it, no one knew about it. She was slamming Thomas and another woman. She did things in her stories so they disappeared after 24 hours. I have a lot to say about it, but as I stated, I don’t feel it’s respectful to Tamara to discuss it on her forum. If you want to discuss it, send me an email address where you can be reached and I’ll be happy to discuss it with you
Ok. All very strange. I wonder if this happened after the cyber bullying started. I guess we may never know the whole real story.
The real story is a very simple one. Ashley went through Thomas’ phone and found out that Thomas wanted Luzanne to be on the show. She said no. She cut off all contact with Thomas after his scary outburst. Luzanne had been back in California for months when Ashley and Thomas went on their scary attacks on her. Every thing Ashley accuses Luzanne of Ashley herself was doing to her. Luzanne doesn’t have much of a social media presence at all she is not on Twitter at all. She works for a religious organization in LA and Ashley contacted her employers and caused a lot of trouble for her. Luzanne never wanted anything to do with this. I don’t see how anyone could watch the show or Ashley’s social media and believe a word that comes out of her mouth.
That is certainly how I see it. But from what. Nancy Pants has said it looks like Ashley went to a lot of trouble to set up Luzanne, and intensively create and groom her own followers, including creating the fake social media account/s for Luzanne. I ALWAYS thought the ‘woman scorned’ letters Thomas and Ashley PUBLISHED, that Luzanne was supposed to have written THOMAS, looked fake.i don’t know if we will ever know the full lengths Ashley and Thomas went to. There were definitely also the fake accounts purporting to be Luzanne ‘s dad and others like one over the top one called southern confederate mother (approx) saying Thomas was ravishing and he deserved the creme of young southern belles. I think T and A had lots of fun with their ‘project’. I am thinking Nancy Pants and others must have information the police would like to have on T and A.
Thomas is always unpredictable. Katherine has shown strength & determination in her quest for 50/50 custody. I hope she gets what she worked so hard for. Thanks for the update T.T.
I’m not surprised Thomas wasn’t agreeing to things. He wants total control of everything. He has been allowed to get away with such foul behavior over the years. He should be ashamed of himself. My prayers and positive thoughts are with Kathryn. I wish she’d Gloria Allred his ass but I understand her not doing so. I have faith for the best possible outcome when everything is said and done.
I’m not surprised she asked for full custody and it confirms to me that she knows the accusations are most likely true.
I’m a little bit surprised she wants full custody. If she has full custody I’m not sure she’ll get any child support. Thomas will throw money at Ashley but not the mother of his kids.
As we just saw on the show, KD doesn’t appear to have an actual job, but who knows by now. And when she works, can she afford day care or a nanny?
The biggest question – who is testing Thomas and Ashley for drugs? Ashley is emaciated, she is either anorexic (therefore bad role model) or on drugs to lose all that weight (therefore again bad role model) and Thomas is never sober that I have ever seen. Some shows he is literally stumbling around and slurring so bad he could end up killing those kids by neglect or accident. Kathryn is clearly the more stable parent, at least from what we the audience knows.
Thanks for the update, TT! We so appreciate you and your diligent efforts to get to the bottom of things.
I’m very excited about Kathryn fighting back. She’s always had the strength just not the money to fight the way he has. But now with a little bit of truth she’ll be able to get the kids and the life she should have had from the beginning. I never thought she was a bad mother. Just because she doesn’t behave in the manor T.R. thought she ought to,she lost them. That’s what power and money can do. No one can tell me even loaded that she wasn’t the better parent. I would have lost my mind if a judge took custody of my children away so that nanny could raise my kids. That’s ludicrous. And up here in the real world that shit never would have happened. But in T.R.’s town, T.R. runs shit. Unfrickingbelievable!! Go Kat get those babies away from that psycho girlfriend, and run. As far and as fast as possible. ?
Are you freaking kidding me? Even loaded, no one is the better parent. You may lose your mind if a judge took your kids from you? What world do you live in that a judge wouldn’t take your kids from you. My advice is stay off the drugs and alcohol if you want to raise your children.
If Kathryn has passed all of the requirements, she should have custody, primary physical custody because Thomas is not providing a stable environment. That should be easy to prove. They could still have joint legal custody.
I am on the children’s side. I do hope they have a gaurdian ad liedem to monitor how it’s working and impacts on the children. The ball has been dropped too many times already.
I think you missed the point, a stranger raising a family can’t be better than a parent, there are ways they could have helped her to be a sober parent. Without removing the children from her custody and giving them to a womanizing whore monger, who wasn’t there and let a nanny raise them. I wouldn’t worry about who’s side your on since nobody gives a crap about what any of us have to say as for me, don’t give me advice, stick to commenting on celebrity gossip. The world I live in doesn’t include nannies ,drugs rapists, or opinionated strangers.
Touche, Jennifer!
I don’t think Muffin Tops advise was directed to you Jennifer, I believe you both got your point across to this audience of TT commenters. I come here because I do care and I appreciate when people can voice their opinions even if I don’t agree, sometimes I even change my stance based on another commenters voice. The world WE live in doesn’t always make sense, so TT created a forum where we can “talk it out” Its not about who is right or wrong….just express your feelings and move on. Be kind ?
We can make our own minds without your advice thanks, Ronda.
Good to know! ? Thanks for YOUR opinion?
Why wouldn’t any judge give Kathryn temporary full custody at this point with the allegations?
She has stepped up and done what has been required to better herself and he children’s lives. T-Rav has just become more of an addicted creeper.
Makes me sick that money and connections have this much power but hey, that’s the world we live in unfortunately
The court probably recognized and made note of the allegations (if Kathryn’s attorney brought them up), but the court cannot condemn Thomas at the moment, since no formal charges or convictions have been brought upon Thomas.
Not unnatural for the child support amount to be contested, especially if she’s asking for more than the state requirements. They will likely go to court again, Kathryn attorney will present either a case for the amount requested or the will present a modified amount. If they cannot resolve that day, it will probably go into mediation. At that point, a mediator will help them hammer out the amount. If they cannot agree in mediation, it will go back before a judge, and the judge will court order an amount.
Sidenotes: I worked in the family/child services division of court and the prosecutors office where I live in Kansas. Some things might be a little different in SC. Also, I’m willing to bet Thomas is contesting full custody (for the moment anyway, until the allegations are settled).
God he makes me sick. I am sure he has been trying to sweet talk his way to get her back in bed. He sees it as a cheaper to keep her. He doesn’t want Ashley, not really. She was supposed to be a means to an end and make Kathryn flip the fuck out. Kathryn stayed cool and calm and proved Thomas wrong. He doesn’t want to give and inch or a penny. He is such a fucking bastard. And with all this new shit showing up I am sure the judge is aware of what’s being alledged against him and knows there are other things at play.
This^^^. This evil clown is going to jail. I. Can’t. Wait. Charleston will be drug kicking and screaming into the 21rst century. No more Old Boy’s Club.
I agree with you 100% His life is unraveling…… ?
Kathryn needs to stay strong, she will win!
Your post reminded me of the night we first saw Ashley, when Thomas said the difference between Kathryn and Ashley was that Ashley had class! Wow, does he have egg on his face! When he goes to prison I’d like to play that sentence back to him on a loop.
Well, if Thomas pleads “poverty”, the fact that he spent $10,000+ in a failed attempt to transform Ashley into a Southern lady will certainly not help him. Plus, has anyone seen her in any of those outfits? They definitely weren’t anything she would have chosen for herself – just another Production fake scene. I think if TRav ever tried to tell her what to wear, he wouldn’t get very far.
She was in the Alice and Olivia dress in the scene where a snippet was shown of them having an argument at the piano bar.
I doubt he would claim poverty! He owns a plantation house which has property taxes, grounds to maintain, and I assume a housekeeper.
He owns at least one polo pony which has boarding fees.
He is renting a second home in town (and formerly owned a beautiful house with guest house which he deemed not appropriate for children.)
He’s supporting Ashley.
Even if his sources of money dried up (maybe stock market crash?), there’s no way he would claim poverty. A judge would order him to stop supporting Ashley, sell the horses, and choose one of those houses to live in, but not both.
Thank you for the update Tamara.
So glad to see Kathryn doing so well this season. I love seeing her with her kids.
Imo, Kathryn should get full custody, with ample child support, given their wealth disparity. And if its 50/50, Kathryn should get significant child support too – along with – this time, the right for Kathryn to drug and alcohol test TRav anytime she wants to!
Does anyone have any idea when the police investigation of the allegations against Thomas will be concluded and the likeliehood of a charge?
I’m dying to know! I have tried not to convict him
in my mind, but the guy makes it so easy to hate him! 🙂
It’s so interesting reading all of the comments trying to hypothesize each person’s motive. None of this is actually Thomas or Kathryn. All of this their lawyers battling each other for the upper hand. If it drags the whole thing out…it’s a ‘win win’ for each of the lawyers.
Think back to TR’s creepy lecherous Father saying he would pay the woman 10,000 for a male heir before he hooked up with Kathryn. TR is a creepy lecherous rapist from a long line of mysogonists (spelling prob wrong but it’s late) and someone needs to remove Saint from him before he passes on that nonsense and Kenzie so she never thinks its’ normal from a man. While they are at it, tear down Ravel bridge or rename it. Let’s see how long Miss Ashley stays once he is convicted and off the show.
No matter what it is a win win for the lawyers, they get paid no matter what. And we know Thomas wants to win and show his power/family name off. He is an ass.
Katherine came on this show crazy because he treated her like shit, acting like the single, drug addicted, whore that he is and has always been.
Seeing Katherine these days makes me wonder how much of her dramatic behavior had to with post partum depression. I mean she was pregnant and probably realizing for the first time how much he used her. And let’s face it, he did everything he could to basically make her look crazy. Always pointing out her behavior, all the while behaving like the pig he has always been.
Depression is bad enough. Add pregnancy and a scumbag to the mix and imagine how crazy you might act. And then on top of it, add ANOTHER PREGNANCY…….
Poor girl. It probably has taken her until now to realize what has happened to her these past 4 years. I just hope she continues to thrive. It looks good on her!!!
Last year, after the reunion in New York, she slept with him again! Thank goodness she didn’t get pregnant again.
He really should get neutered.
So should she.
Thanks for the update TT. I understand the difficulty.
My kids had a guardian ad lidem and it worked well.
Mr. Ravenel can afford child support. I hope the court will ask him for drug/alcohol testing and anger management classes in order to cope with 50-50 co parenting.
Yes, I did dislike the old Kathryn. But after watching past seasons, I came to the realization that I did not understand. Kathryn was a very young woman who fell for an older man. My opinion is that he groomed her to be arm candy. Yes, in my opinion, I think he urged her to become addicted.
Kathryn is digging herself out of the hole and should be commended. And given the chance to be mom.
You ppl that say if she got 50/50 custody she should get child support are redic. I thought men and women are equal? She’s on a successful TV show and has her own money. I’m sure trav will buy tons of stuff for the kids and help plenty besides. I hope she gets full custody though anyways. She’s doing great it seems and he’s an arrogant rapist. Good luck Kat!
I generally agree, Dave. But when there is a large disparity in housing, the court usually tries to even that out a bit.
Oohhhh Dave … women are not “equal” we are superior to men! A man CANNOT hold a baby in their body and give birth through the MOST PAINFUL PROCESS on earth. A “male” that does not SUPPORT his children is NOT a “MAN!”
People should read the book “ The NATURAL Superiority of Women” by the anthropologist Ashley Montague. A great read. Will scare the hell out of most men and that’s why they’ve been trying to suppress women since time began. Ashley Montegue is a man, just saying.
On RHONY, Bethenny and Jason have a 50/50 custody agreement and she is required to pay him a large amount of child support.
Buy stuff for the kids? To keep at his home. Help out plenty? When he wants something and as a way to manipulate Katherine and the children and withheld when he wants to “punish” her. Why should he or any parent with money be able to hold financial support over the other’s head and who really suffers when that happens? When there’s a huge disparity in income and resources (as in this case) child support absolutely should be issued to level the playing field, even with 50/50. Kids should be going to/from the same type of environment so that they never favor one parent due to finances. He had kids with her, these are the consequences and why the law is written to include child support in 50/50 situations. It’s redick to think their incomes are anywhere even remotely close or that feminism should have any bearing on what truly is best for those or any other children.
In Indiana, the way it was explained to me was the court decides how much each parent would contribute toward child if they lived together. If one party makes 80 grand a year and the other party makes 20 grand then the 80 grand parent would contribute 80% toward child 20 grand parent would contribute 20%.
Thanks for the update TT. Sad to hear Thomas is being a miserable excuse for a man as usual. I really hoped he would step up and be generous in attitude as Kathryn has shown him a lot of kindness in keeping up appearances in co-parenting, despite the recent allegations against him. She shows so much more class and dignity in her behaviour than Thomas.
I am not sure now whether Kathryn has asked for 50/50 or 100% custody. Either would be a step forward. I hope she gets what she asked for.
Kathryn is living in a tiny apartment. The kids are growing. If he were the gentleman he likes to portray himself as, Thomas would give Kathryn an adequate allowance to ensure she can rent a modest house or town house and cover some food and clothing costs for the kids. I think he should also be paying school fees and medical costs – whether it ends up 50/50 or 100% custody to Kathryn.
It may be he wants to drip feed her a bit of money from time to time to basically keep Kathryn under control – and maybe he is hoping she will weaken and go back to him. He is looking disgusting after all the alcohol, etc, and I hope there are few places left around Charleston where he is welcomed by respectable people. I am amazed his family don’t lean on him to do the right thing. He must be a shocking embarrassment to them. His escort girlfriend being housed, but won’t pay child support???
That’s what Thomas was doing before but Kathryn was not satisfied and wanted more $ so she withheld the kids from him. As I said before, these two are birds of a feather; why they are so attracted to each other. Kathryn is no victim, the kids are. I love the rewriting of history here.
Kathryn withholding the kids in the beginning was wrong, but she probably had no legal advice at the time, and it is a knee-jerk reaction.
Oh please, knee jerk. LOL. You must think Kathryn is pretty stupid. I don’t like mothers playing games with kids lives. IMO.
Many 23 year old postpartum mothers don’t think rationally. When you add in psychological abuse and knowledge of a rape it could make many mothers want to keep their children away from their father.
Just conjecture on your part.
Spunky2015, This whole fucking thread is conjecture! (well, mostly) 😉
We don’t know what was going on at the time for Kathryn, vis a vis Thomas. Now all the new information is coming to light Kathryn may have had genuine fears about Thomas’s behavior.
Isn’t Thomas paying rent for his whore? That should go to housing his children when they are with their mother. God I can’t wait until he is convicted.
He needs to pay. I say get rid of the nanny and pay Kathryn and raise your own kids.
How does this man sleep at night!!?? What a miserable sick person he is ….I think KD has a really bad lawyer- probably all she could afford! TR will get his day in court – one day !! I just don’t understand any of this . The dancing w him last week, why he doesn’t have to drug test …it just all seems so messy! I pray KD gets the kids, support and stays strong and away from that sick pathetic man!!
I wonder if the court can consider the stuff we see on tv. I think her lawyer would have to present testimony and I imagine his co-stars would be unhappy to be dragged in as witnesses. We can hope the judge at least has seen in at it is coloring his decisions, if not officially.
I doubt it. There’s the editing issue. And then there’s the possible claim that “I did it for drama.” For example, him yelling at Chelsea he would say that he keeps the show lively to appeal to viewers.
If he were shown yelling at the kids, that would be different.
Yeah I always thought that courts won’t use footage from reality based tv shows because a contract is signed stating the producers can edit the footage to a certain degree and so you never really know how much is true or not.
Thanks for the update. You all do realise that TRunravelled is a male chauvinist pig? ? Also a womanizer? He opts for younger women because he’s immature & no women his age would allow his child like behavior nor would a women his age be controlled. Kathryn was just a kid when the show started. She was just coming out into the world after college. She wasn’t on drugs. He introduced her to drugs, the same as he’s done Ashley. Kathryn is blossoming into a beautiful young women ( mother) , she’s done all the courts TR have ordered her to do. And she deserves to have her children & be the mom she wants to be. A man who prohibits a child’s mother to be present at a surgery for the child, is a man ( parent) who doesn’t deserve full custody or any type of control for that matter. What parent wouldn’t want the other parent there? No good parent would ever be that way. What parent would choose nannies to raise there children? Rather then sharing them with the other parent. She would have loved to of been with her kids, but instead she had to deal with heartbreak knowing that a nanny was with them. TR is about control & money. He’s a 55yr OLD MAN. He has NO excuse for his behavior. To introduce to drugs & then use it against her to take her children is horrible. Another reason he shouldn’t have his kids is his CRAZY GF. She is psycho & a danger to those children. If she had the chance she would attempt to start poisoning them against there mother. In all reality. My opinion. Not only should katheryn have full custody. TRunravelled should have SUPERVISED visitation until he goes threw a series of drug & alcohol assessments. In my humble opinion Thomas is an embarrassment to the entire male race. And Kathryn can be an inspiration to all young mothers. It would have been cheaper for him to marry her when she was head over hills in love with him. I hope he has to pay enough in child support to allow Kathryn to live a bit of a fancy life. He will fight it tooth & nail. But it seems as though all he’s done in the past is finally catching up with him & karma has taken hold. ( sorry this is so long SC is actually the ONLY show I watch weekly.)
Well.. it makes sense that we are seeing more emotional abuse from Thomas since We have already been witness to his verbal abuse. It pains me to hear she has a crap attorney Tamara as I was hoping she would have some aggressive, take charge one. I wish Patricia could help her in that direction. I mentioned that incident with Luzanne sounds like a drug induced episode fueled by alcohol. Hopefully, he will be convicted soon. Amazing that he would not want his children to live the lifestyle when they are not with him but again.. another example that his abusive self.. I think of Kevin Federline (another low life) asking for 60,000 a month in child support for two boys half time because he only gets 20,000 he gets now. Boy, what a loser he is. Things sure are different here in California.
Let’s not forget the MOST important FACTS of this relationship. While Kathryn may have been a 20yr old recreational pot& alcohol user; Thomas is the one that was CONVICTED and went to prison on DRUG charges‼️
Kathryn has demonstrated more maturity and life changes in 3yrs than Thomas has in 30YEARS‼️
His present girlfriend and these latest sexual womanizing allegations alone are enough to give Kathryn Full Custody. She has been getting very good counsel. And most of all following their advice to a “T”.
The children are the most important part of this relationship. That’s where the main focus needs to be. It appears that Thomas just doesn’t get it. Even at age 54. Perhaps LuAnn DeLeseppe said it best… “MONEY don’t buy you class”
Why wouldn’t she receive child support with 50% custody?
Thomas’s aka T-Rav is a complete douche bag. I can’t stand him ! And the only reason I feel he has been successful in getting custody of those kids is because he has more money then Kathryn to spend on lawyers. He says all these things about Kathryn not being grown up and unpredictable yet his new girlfriend is exactly that and worse. Trashley is a complete wreck and has something mentally wrong. You can see how crazy she is just looking at her eyes. I hope Kathryn gets 5050 or full and gets the child support.
I agree with what you say about Thomas except he 100% should have gotten full custody of his children. At that time, Kathryn’s life was a train wreck and an active drug user. His receiving full custody had nothing to do with him having more money and everything to do with Kathryn’s life choices.
She has now turned her life around, successfully completed the court’s parenting plan, and should receive 50% custody and child support.
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Is Bravo still not allowing cast members to comment (beyond neutral scripted statements) re the allegations against Thomas? Would they be penalized if they spoke to the police who are conducting the investigation or if they testified before a grand jury?
P.S. Thank you TT!! I appreciate the update!! Hope you’re doing okay-we are here for you.
The more I see how Thomas acts both on the screen and in real life, the less I think of him. Fingers crossed for Katherine.
Thomas stipulating that Katharine should be drug tested all the time was the nicest thing he’s ever done for her, we’ve now all seen what a lovely classy women Katharine can be. Also, she has a year of sobriety under her belt and that should give her the confidence to continue. It’s too late for Thomas his mind is blown, but I pray Katherine will continue to live a sober existence, in the moment, it’s harder, but it builds strength, long term, it’s much easier. Go Katherine go!
I never thought of that. Brilliant! It really is a blessing. Probably the coolest thing he’s ever done. Unintentionally giving her the tools to take her children and herself back. You are brilliant. Thank you for enlightening me.
Now is the time for Thomas to be tested. I know he would fail. If he can be high & drunk during filming, can you imagine what he’s like when he is not filming?
Kathryn needs to start working on a plan to support these children herself long-term, without having to rely on Thomas. Yes, Thomas SHOULD provide support, but her life will go smoother is she doesn’t NEED him to support her completely in raising those children. Yes she has Southern Charm now, but that is not going to last forever. Modeling won’t either. It is time for her to develop a realistic plan for educating herself, getting a career, and just generally becoming a self-sufficient adult in the long term. If she has to rely on Thomas, that gives him control over her lives and the lives on those kids. We all know how that will go. Her life will go much smoother if she doesn’t NEED him.
I totally agree with you Tammy!
My guess is that she is trying to leverage the current allegations against him to get full custody – which tells me that Mr. Ravenel may be headed back to prison soon. Karma.
You know I just was thinking, how come Patricia hated Kathryn for being a “gold digger”, but assley (as someone so eloquently put it) is getting clothes an apartment and all the amenities that go with it, all paid for by T.R. ? That’s very hypocritical. I would love to speak to Ms. Patricia. Just to say hey, she is growing up nicely and the other is just a flat out money grubbing old fashioned prostitute. And I wonder what price T.R. is going to end up paying for the cow, because that is some very expensive milk!!
Katherine rejected Whitney and chose Thomas instead, this lead to both Whitney and his mother lashing out at Katherine.
I doubt that. More like dodged a bullet. Patricia (like many people) don’t like seeing children born out of wedlock. If Thomas is so terrible, why did she have two kids with him? Forget the young, manipulated horse shit. You make her sound mentally incompetent. IMO.
Did you see the first year? Thomas could be really charming if he wanted to. I think Thomas loved and still loves Katherine, but the first year, everyone was against Katherine, so he pushed and pulled with her, that along with alcohol and or drugs and inexperience led Katherine to get caught up in the moment and I think she truly love him at one time. If your judging based on children born out of wedlock, I think Thomas made that decision, not Katherine.
Didn’t TR try to get Kathryn to abort Saint?
I saw the first year and Kathryn was out of control. In subsequent seasons and especially this one, we’ve seen some of the bahavior that pushed her into that out of control spin. I keep telling myself that we are seeing the controlled behavior that TR is allowing to be filmed for TV. How much worse can it be when the cameras aren’t rolling?
Call me idealistic, but I really wish that Thomas would get sober and that Kathryn would remain sober and that they could have a friendly relationship moving forward, with some sort of split custody arrangement (Kathryn getting more time, of course!) The reason being that that is what is in the best interest of the children, which is really the only thing that we should all be concerning ourselves with at this time.
Maybe she should have full custody. With those charges that was filed against him.
Yes, because I think things would have gone so much better between Thomas and Katherine if she’d gotten that ring. (ironic statement)
Might be because I’m from another country (Sweden), but I really thought people stopped caring about that whole ‘born out of wedlock’ thing years ago.
All children deserve parents who love and care for them, they don’t care if the parents are married or not.
ITA. I think the whole born out of wedlock thing is very old fashioned. I know a few people whose parents got together in the 1960s and never got married, but they are still together. How have we gone backwards on this?
How is Thomas getting away with this crap? Does the “courts” not see his behavior and or his insecure nut case girlfriend? And she is a nurse???? Would not want her to be my nurse or anyone I love.
I am so team Kathryn ? she deserves full custody with child support. Thomas should get visitation rights. Kathryn deserves a normal life with her kids. Not the controlling one Thomas wants her to have. I pray for decisions in your favor. God Bless.
Thomas should hook up with Kate Gosselin….both of them are fame whores.
I know it’s being naive, but I sure wish nothing regarding the children, custody, parties, switching for visitation, was all handled privately and off camera.
Social media is enough to show what is happening without adding the show as well.
Kathryn is starting to have enough going on, and has her friends to hang out with, to now have a storyline. Just seems even more inappropriate discussing the children. Time to protect them 100%!!
I totally agree! They didn’t ask to be born on a reality show. They are old enough and aware enough of the cameras to think that’s normal. I don’t see any good coming from them being anyone’s story line.
Yeah I always thought that courts won’t use footage from reality based tv shows because a contract is signed stating the producers can edit the footage to a certain degree and so you never really know how much is true or not.
Welcome to SC family court law. Kathryn is in for a long fight. This I know from experience. I was born and raised in Lexington and as an only child of divorce parents, their custody battle over me lasted 5yrs from the time I was 10 until I turned 15 and could say who I wanted to live with. All the fighting and back and forth being pulled in all directions can and will take a toll on kids involved. Some pple don’t think it has a lasting effects on kids, but it does. I’m now 21 and to this day I’m still dealing with the fallout from all that mess and all the nasty things my parents said about each other during that time. I now live over 600mls away from them and they still try to pit me against each other (big sigh)… If Kathryn has met the court parenting plan and passed all drug testing then yes she should get 50/50, but that may be a ways off if Thomas has anything to do with it. And I still say Ashley the gold digger needs to go, that is one nasty, messy bitch from hell.
I am sorry Addison. One of the many things I will never understand, how can someone hate their ex more than they love their children.
In the end, I think she will end up as the primary caregiver and he will pay child support.
Thanks for keeping us updated. I’m too invested in this. I have been a Kathryn fan from the beginning. I know she’s had some problems. I have just always felt Thomas was her biggest problem, I pray she eventually ends up with her children full time. He allegedly did not want the 2nd child prior to his birth. He is a drunk. I realize the present allegations against him have not been proven in court, but I do agree with the aforementioned comments about the pool incident. His drinking to that extent with the children in his care and falling into a pool with Kensie is ridiculous.
Patricia and Whitney now support Kathryn as in the fanale, Ashley is accused of being a paid escort. From what I have read, Ashley only has dated rich older men. Thomas has a lot of power in SC and I hope he don’t get off for the recent accusations if they are all true. He got off lightly from what I understand regarding his prison sentence he served before. As far as child support, each situation is looked at in a 50/50 custody, if one makes a substantial amt of money more than the other, then usually the top earner will have to pay child support. Kathryn is making good money now off the show plus being a fashion influencer/model but I’m sure its no where near Thomas’ income. I would think she would get what is deemed appropriate for his income if she is treated in a fair manner and does get at least 50/50 custody. She may already have them 50/50 as she showed the little girl yesterday on her IG Story. I honestly wish the storyline of Kathryn and Shep was a real romance but I feel it’s all for the camera. It looks like from Instagram, both Naomie and Craig have moved on to new romances. I have felt Kathryn is the one that could tame Shep from seeing this season but I know we only see on TV what they want us to see.
Lol…Thomas dosen’t have a lot of power in SC, otherwise he would not have served 10 mos in prison. He’s got some money which allows him to get his way at times (like when he secured the extra $$$$$ needed to make the new Cooper River bridge into a suspension bridge and would only do so if the new bridge was named after his father. The Ravenels do not have the historical significince they lead viewers on SCharmed to believe nor does Shep Rose his historical significance comes by way of extended family his uncle was former South Carolina Department of Public Safety director, B. Boykin Rose from a small community Boykin’s mill outside of Camden SC. As far as the dog goes it was recognised as a breed by the UKC in 1985 and the Boykins are not the original breeders. South Carolinians are fickle about their state’s historical roots. The one and only one linked to real American history in the state of South Carolina is Kathryn Calhoun Dennis.
Thomas went to PRISON on FEDERAL CHARGES. So your argument doesn’t hold water.There are plenty of people to buy off in Charleston just like ever other city.
Shouldn’t he be charged at this point? It’s been over a year on some of these accusations?
Don’t know know if anyone commented this yet but, TT did you see Patricia’s tweet from about an hour ago? I don’t want to break any commenting rules so go check it out if you didn’t already. What tha???
In a 50/50 custody agreement, child support is not customary. Kathryn might need to get a real job or bank a bit of that Bravo cash to pay her own way.
When one parents deliberately cuts out the other parent or treats them cruelly, out of spite or anger, karma will come around in a very serious way. When the children grow up and begin to understand what happened, they will HATE the spiteful parent for it. I speak from experience. When I was less than a year old, my mother left my father and iced him out of our lives 100%, out of spite. He and I never saw each other again, as he died early. I will never, ever forgive her for that. She managed to carry out her spitefulness with help from the South Carolina legal system.
If Ravenel continues to manipulate and treat Kathryn cruelly, those two children will hate him when they get older. I mean HATE. But they will also carry the pain around with them, all their lives.
Thomas certainly has a serious drinking problem. He needs to go to rehab. Maybe this would go in his favor to the courts. Ashley also has a drinking problem which manifests in anger, aggressive behavior, etc. as we have seen on TV. She is just clinging to his money and he is too weak to stand alone.
Ashley is working with the elderly because she can’t get along with hospital staff and the rigorous standards of ethics. Those who can’t do hospital work go to people’s homes. She is so needy and wants to be round the weak to lift herself up.
Thomas needs to get rid of Ashley, get over his political blunders, and start to heal. ALCOHOL IS HIS EVIL NEIGHBOR…….move on!!!!!!
I think it’s ridiculous that Catherine had to be drug tested at all in the first place. Thomas Ravenel is the old coke dealer who gets away with murder because he pays off everybody. As far as I’m concerned Katherine should have 100% custody and let him have visitation rights. He should be paying her 10 grand a month as well for you as he is. He’s so damn cheap. That girlfriend Ashley, she’s just pure white trash. You Can Tell She’s a real gold digger.