Well, this is the episode we’ve been waiting for. The news breaks about Luann’s shocking arrest and the tongues start wagging in New York City. At this point, Luann’s attorney has already whisked her away to rehab.
We start with Bethenny flying to Chicago to give a speech while Brynn is in school and planning to return before the school day is over. That’s risky. What if her flight back gets cancelled or delayed? Perhaps she is flying private. Bethenny talks to her driver about Luann.
Carol and Tinsley talk on the phone about Luann’s arrest. Carole is in Los Angeles because all this happened when they were on a holiday break. Ramona and Dorinda are also chatting. Ramona says she drank a lot after her divorce as well. Ramona and Tinsley were both in Palm Beach when Luann was arrested.
Sonja’s house is a disaster and not just from construction. She is going to stay with Tinsley in her hotel room for a couple of days.
I don’t care about Ramona’s skincare line. Would I use it if she sent me some? Absolutely. I am always rubbing stuff on my face. I just slathered it with coconut oil seconds ago. The coconut oil takes the letters off my keyboard, so that’s an issue. I know everyone says that Ramona is some great business woman, but I have seen no signs of that.
Bethenny reached out to Carol over the holidays hoping their issues were behind them and Carol did not respond in kind. Bethenny is also confused as to why Dorinda is making such a big deal over her reaction to the Nutcracker thing. We get new footage of Bethenny telling Dorinda how grateful she is that the nutcracker was found. This was apparently in the Berkshires and she gives Dorinda a big hug and tells her how grateful she is. What does Dorinda want? A tongue bath? Dorinda was trashing Bethenny again just this week on Juicy Scoop. She says that Bethenny is edited to look the best. Please. Bethenny has been edited as a bitch nearly every season, it takes some doing for Dorinda and Carole and Tinsley and Ramona to look as bad as they do this season.
Bethenny is throwing the biggest Skinnygirl Infomercial Party we’ve ever seen. It’s super over the top and it is the debut of her new line of Skinnygirl jeans. Every other Skinnygirl product known to man is there as well. It’s amazing.
Tinsley arrives first. Apparently, she did not get an engagement ring for Christmas but she got a hefty diamond tennis bracelet that is nothing to sniff at.
Sonja arrives looking like a character in Fargo. She immediately starts begging for olives from the bartender. She’s vegan now. Oh Lord. Get that girl some chicken or something to keep the crazy at bay. Oh wait. She saw a seafood raw bar and the whole vegan thing is out the window.
As Bethenny is giving her speech about her all female design team, Dorinda hobbles in. She apparently dropped a sterling silver salt grinder on her foot and is in a boot. Bethenny asks Dorinda if she is mad at her. She said she was so upset over the holidays about their situation. I hate Dorinda’s talking head look. It makes her look like someone’s grandmother. Anyway, Bethenny says she is sorry if she didn’t thank her enough at the party in front of everyone. She points out that Dorinda didn’t do exactly what she thought she should do the night before they went to Puerto Rico and they got past it because they are friends. Dorinda and Carole are on this big kick about Bethenny always bringing up their worst moments. I just thought Bethenny was saying that they all disappoint each other sometimes but they are friends and they move forward. Bethenny says if Dorinda is over it she should stop talking about it behind her back. Dorinda throws Carole under the bus as the person who thought Bethenny failed to show the appropriate appreciation. Bethenny says Ramona told her that Dorinda was very upset and that upset Bethenny. Dorinda says Ramona doesn’t have permission to tell Bethenny how she feels. I have absolutely no interest in the conversation. They hug it out.
Let’s move on to talking about Luann. Again. Tinsley is drunk telling Ramona how bad Luann’s situation is. Then Tinsley, Dorinda and Bethenny have drunken conversations about Luann. Bethenny seemed very appreciative that the girls showed up.
The next day a very hungover Bethenny goes to meet Carole for lunch. Bethenny says she went home around three and when she woke up her hair pieces were in a bag of potato chips. They start off talking about Luann and how she slipped out of her handcuffs and threatened to kill everyone. Then Bethenny says, “So are you upset with me? What’s going on?” After a lot of talking around the issue, it seems that Carole is upset because Bethenny said unflattering things about Adam to her in a phone call. Bethenny thought they were broken up but apparently they were not. Carole says that Bethenny was texting her crap about Ramona being a horrible person over the holidays. Carole says she just told Bethenny that the conversation was too big for text, could they just get together and talk in person when she gets back. She said Bethenny would not stop texting her. Carole was pissed that Bethenny kept telling Ramona she seemed sad. Bethenny thinks Carole is being critical and picking on her. She’s not. She is trying to answer Bethenny’s original question about why Carole is upset with her. Bethenny is being very defensive and is not listening to her. They don’t seem to get anywhere. Bethenny wants to hug it out, Carole reluctantly agrees because she is not a hugger. Zero was accomplished in the conversation. Bethenny says she can’t deal with any more issues coming between their friendship. They joke about needing couples therapy.
Speaking of jokes, Sonja has arrived at Tinsley’s suite. By the way, Scott is absolutely paying for the suite. Tinsley says that there are no rules. She can do anything wants and have people over. Either Scott has rented Sonja the Penthouse or more likely the hotel has offered it up to Sonja as free advertising. Either way, Tinsley doesn’t have to room with Sonja anymore. And Scott Tinsley has bought Sonja a Louis Vuitton bag. It’s full of slippers and a robe. Tinsley thanks Sonja again, for the millionth time, for letting her stay with her.
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Dorinda hobbles to a park bench in NYC and Luann calls her from rehab. Luann tells Dorinda that she was overwhelmed by all of the memories of Tom and things just became too much for her. She says she hit a wall and she is working through all of those emotions in rehab. She says the hardest part of it all was that her children and her mother knew what had happened. She says from the time she went into the wrong room, it was five minutes later she was in handcuffs. She really doesn’t know how it all happened. Luann’s talking heads are kind of heartbreaking. She says this is rock bottom, you can’t get worse than getting arrested. She says in a strange way she is thankful for it because it made her look at herself in ways she would not have otherwise. Dorinda makes a joke that three mugshots are enough for this group. Who other than Tinsley and Luann have mugshots?
Next week: It’s Bobby’s funeral. So damn sad. Tinsely freezes her eggs. Luann makes her return to NYC. Technically, she hasn’t missed an episode or a paycheck if they count the phone call this week.
Bethenny is so predictable trying to divert conversations and when that doesn’t work she starts crying.
I agree, she is predictable but I think it comes from a real inner struggle. I think she does want people in her life she can trust but has real trust issues….
And honestly, I don’t have trust issues and if in some weird scenario Carole and I were to become friends I would never trust Carole again. Even if it is scripted, I know they don’t give them actual words just “argue with Bethenny”.
Carole broke one of the biggest codes ever, male or female. In a fight, she threw out things that were said in confidence, to hurt other people and to make them mad at Bethenny. I know she doesn’t like Luann, but that was vicious to both Luann and Bethenny. Seriously – Jill at her WORST would never do that.
I sincerely believe that Carole and Bethenny had a true friendship when NOT filming. It is so sad, and I’m definitely Team Bethenny.
While I agree about never trusting Carole again, Bethenny is no better.
I agree with you. Both are bad and are mean girls. I am neither team Carole or Bethenny.
Bethenny is a brat. She’s very intelligent and entertaining to watch, but she’s a complete BRAT.
So true first come the tears….then in her best creepy voice she says..”you’re being weird.” Uck. She just can’t entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe..Bettheny is actually WRONG!!
Didn’t Ramona already have her True Renewal Skincare line? Where did it go?
Tinsley is correct that Palm Beach is a teeny, tiny little town. I can second that.
This is so sad.
Yes she has a skincareline Remember the B%$#@ when a girl came in for job interview had some acne issues and Ramona told her she had bad skin and gave her a parting gift of her skin care. and NO job for you girl bye.That Ramona is a real piece of work. She only confronted Bethenny by phone because she thinks they are on her team to hate Bethenny and make her look bad
Ramona has never been really nice to Bethenny except when she was in pain and bleeding from Ftbroids and while she was pregnant otherwise Ramona has been trying to sabatoge Bethenny. Damn I rambled again.
Sonja was arrested for a DUI.
Carole and Bethany doing the civilized dance is a bore.
I could care less about Ramona’s skin care or her stupid hair extensions, or the bad bare shoulder tops she keeps wearing with jeans.
I’m laughing! Best comment ever…except every name should be preceded with one of the following: Wasted, Drunk, Tipsy or Sober .
I was trying to figure out the third mug shot. Thanks for the info!
Sonja has a mugshot from 2009/2010 can’t remember exactly for a DUI in the Hamptons.
The best line of the whole night was Tinsley recounting that she called LuAnn while she was in rehab and invited her over for a drink. I died.
*I laughed too what nerve Tinsley Blahahahaha I hurt my face laughing
Tinsley is correct about Palm Beach being a tiny town and about Luann’s motive in going there to appear that she was ok with the Tom situation but apparently Luann was not.
Tinsley was also correct to have Sonja stay in the Penthouse Suite, give a lavish gift and hopefully shut down the ungrateful talk once and for all!
Sonja’s DUI makes 3 mugshots for this group of ladies and if Dorinda doesn’t watch it she’ll be number 4.
Luann’s talking heads were sad and I’m happy the women didn’t drag her while she was down.
Carole’s calm and rational demeanor when speaking with Bethenny seems to be throwing Bethenny off her game as Carol beats her at her game. That said, I prefer them as friends than enemies.
It seems as if Carol’s been storing some serious pent up anger that has now erupted, continually spewing about Bethenny. I never thought I’d see the day that Carol would side with Ramona on anything, much less with her against B.
I just read Carol’s blog, she eagerly posted it about 4 hours before RHONY even aired. It’s 95% about how horrible Bethenny is! There must be a lot more to this story than we’ll ever know or Carol is just furious about Adam being called an opportunist & not being appreciated & praised enough for her marathon accomplishment. Run Bethenny run!
Just the opposite, Carole’s blog is a week late – it’s about last week’s episode. That being said – its again mean in a very childish way. You say I care about my hair and you have plug-in hair and a personal stylist! She uses manipulative phrases like “we think” – it’s your blog, write about yourself! And she goes again with “we have the same job, you are not that important”. I mean… is she in proper age for dementia to kick in? It looks so to me…
I realized that it was last weeks blog after posting my comment.
Yeah, Carol really doesn’t seem right, something is very off.
Yeah that “We have the same job” is weird! She has ONE job in common with Bethenny. They are both filmed for reality tv.
Frankly, Bethenny is doing that job far better! She has her PR charity, her launch of the jeans, assistants at a business. Carole has her fashion (her own outfits I mean, not a business) and doubled her stories by briefly having a marathon. But it’s not cutting it in the interest department.
Saying Bethenny has “one more child than I do” is also weird. Having one child is WAY more time-consuming than having none! It’s not like adding children is cumulative. Having two children isn’t twice the work of having one. It’s maybe 40% more.
In any case, the only NY housewife with more than one child is Luann. And her children are grown up and out on their own. Bethenny’s child is young.
Those statements by Carol were very stupid. Same job. One more kid. Really?
I think Carol’s blogs reflect the hindsight of Carol seeing all that Bethenny said behind her back the first part of this season all while Carol was thinking their friendship was fine. If you remember when Ramona, Carol and Tinsley was at the nail salon and at that fundraiser for Carol’s friend, Ramona tried to get Carol on her side and Carol was still defending Bethenny
Agree. I was really shocked tat Bethenny straight up iied about what she said about Carole. Truly never looked at her like a liar.
I didn’t see where she lied. She kept telling the others that Carole seemed sad. That’s exactly what she told Carole. Did I miss one of B’s statements? Carole kept saying “Sad and lonely” or whatever. She got those other words from Ramona or from her own pairing of words with “sad”.
Is it just me and my wonky computer? I just looked to see if any new blogs were posted and Carole’s seems to be missing. The one that was posted yesterday??
hmmmm?
No me too. All I get are Bethenny and Luanne’s from last week.
Same here. I even deleted the Bravo cookies from my computer and the blog page is still a mess and I don’t see Carole’s blog.
The only way I could access it was the link on Carole’s Twitter page to Bravo. It does not appear when you go to Bravo and the RHONY blog page.
Me too! Did she take it down maybe? Too much backlash… I wonder if anyone copied it.
Go over to the right and pull up the blogs by individual cast member. Carol’s from 18 hours ago is there. That’s the only way I got to see it. It doesn’t come up on the regular blog page.
Ok I don’t get it. THe blog says it was posted within a day ago but it’s dated May 17th. I don’t know what’s going on at the Bravo site. Sorry—are we allowed to talk about that here? I thought it was ok. Sorry TT if it’s not.
Carol said they edited it, who edited it? Bravo?
I found it! Just where Nolagal said it was, linked to it off of her twitter account. It is vicious again. Carole needs to seriously consider her last sentence in that blog. This blog is for last week’s episode.
Headed to find it there. Thank you !
Is there a blog for this week, or was this a twofer?
thill, Not a twofer, just for last weeks episode.
Luann clearly suffers from arrested development and alcoholism. Its so sad to see an educated woman in her mid-50s behave like a boy crazy 13-year old. A couple years of therapy could really help her out…if she’s willing to bare her tiny soul.
Wow, nasty and incredibly insensitive. Sorry she’s didn’t live up to your expectations. She’s admitted she made many mistakes all down the line and has held herself accountable. I admire that she picked herself up and made lemonade out of lemons. Good for her. it’s been an incredibly hard year in which she was publicly humiliated, her life and choices were judged and scrutinized by strangers. Meanwhile Tom, unbothered by it all, has slithered on by… I’m currently going through a divorce and it’s incredibly painful, I can’t imagine how bad it would be if strangers were judging my choices and laughing at me thinking they were someone superior as if they’d never fucked up before.
Great recap. Sonja did look like a Fargo character. LOL. It was terrible what Lu went through but hope she has Tom out of her system now and moves on from that douche. Bethenny must not of had Brynn over the holidays to text Carole so much. I would think an assistant or maybe even Jason would be there for Brynn if flight was delayed. I would of chowed down at that seafood buffet too. A lot of food porn on these shows lately.
These woman hating on Bethenny and her success is getting old- especially Ramona!! She is nuts!!
Bethenny is the one who attacked Ramona at the x-mas party. She gave a gift and Bethenny made a really nasty comment about the gift being disingenuous because it was Ramona’s skin care line. You see, Bethenny has NEVER used the show to promote HER business. The lack of self-insight was pretty hilarious. Her sole purpose on the show is to promote her brand, I find it a drag but it is what it is however to criticize someone else for doing the same thing she does every week was really obnoxious. Ramona and the other women show up for ALL of her events whereas she cherry picks what events she will support.
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I love me some Lu. Always have. She holds her head up high and keeps moving or trudging forward, whichever the day presents to her. I hate that things went down for her like they did but I do think it will help her have perspective on her life. I also didn’t care to see the footage from the police car. Really sad.
Agree, To show the footage last week was bad enough, but to repeat it this week was cruel.
TT, I was so patiently waiting for your post, hah! You are amazing, thank you.
Carol is having that momment you have with a friend you thought was so witty and fun and suddenly you realize, ” They don’t see me. She lives in her own little world and she is never going to understand me. Infact, maybe she is incable of understanding anyone’s perspective other than her own?” Its that momment you realize, I made friends with a Narcissist.
exactly
Yes, completely agree. Well stated.
Or else you married one.
I have to say I thought it was pretty common knowledge that the HWs were edited to kind of be shown as an exaggerated version of the real people they are. Bethany gets the superwoman, business savvy, private-life in the toilet…. edit. I personally took Dorindas point in that interview to be they are ALL successful women and have at any one time been on top like B and just because it wasn’t chronicled on HW, didn’t make it less than.
I also agree with the ladies, they are all in the same business now and skinny girl would be nothing without B on TV. I’d b interested in her sales when shes not on any show but especially HWs “product placing” for the viewers. I love B, really do, I just agree with the ladies on this one, as well.
Regarding being thankful to Dorinda for the nutcracker, I again agree with the ladies. I personally feel like there’s a big difference between the term “I apologize” and “I’m sorry”. I apologize feels clinical to me, an assessment of a situation without accountability…. looking somebody in the eye and saying I’m sorry relays acceptance of, if nothing else, that whatever it was, hurt someone else and taking ownership of that. So, by the same token, I can see how Bethany saying “I am grateful, you saved Christmas” doesn’t have the same merit behind it as looking your friend in the eyes and saying “thank you for doing that for us”. The former still feels self serving and not at all grateful for what your friend did for you. Again just my thoughts. I actually quite quite like all the NY ladies and the qualities they bring to the table.
I love your blog Tamara! I tried to observe the rules and use proper English and not text speak…I hope I didn’t miss any. Have a great night everyone! ❤
It was obvious Carole has checked out of the friendship with Bethenny. In hindsight, she had done so prior to the Berkshire trip. Bethenny can’t walk across the room right for her.
Again, Sonja cracked me up.
I too believe that Carole has come down as casting judgement on her relationship with Beth. Beth committed the cardinal sin of criticising her girlfriend’s boyfriend. For Beth things are cast in black and white most of the time. Carole has been waffling about her relationship with Adam from the start, but clearly she is still his champion. The rest, as Carole said, is circling the drain. Carole has known what Beth is about for years. Now she has a problem with the relationship dynamic, but she has trouble with expressing herself about it. To watch these conversations is so frustrating, as i think that Carole is working at weed speed. She just drones on and on and it makes me crazy. Almost as bad as Beth speaking at lightening speed and constantly interrupting. Get on with it ladies, be friends or just be cordial, figure it out. I also have the thought that this “fight” may have been pumped up by production before they knew that Lu would bring major drama for the season.
I’m not liking Carole in this at all. She seems aloof and distant almost superior to Bethany’s neediness.
She minimizes and ignored Bethany’s pain after that call with Ramona. That’s abandonment to Bethany
I would guess that others have told Bethany “it’s a lot ” or “you are a lot” or “you are too much.” It hit a nerve you could see it in her face.
I remember (several seasons ago) the day Heather called Bethenny a “know it all,” Bethenny thought about it and said, “you’re right, I am a know it all, I do know it all!” It was hilarious & it seemed to break the ice between them & they were then at least friendly to each other. Carol just seems very picky about every single thing Bethenny does, she can’t do one thing right & she’s hurt, she realizes she’s lost her friend. You can’t put the toothpaste back in!
Don’t give a Nutcracker if it causes you to be a Nut who Cracks when you don’t get the praise you feel you deserve. Dorinda has managed to “clip” her beloved persona this season.
THIS SO MUCH!
I am always extremely grateful when someone chooses to give me a gift. And I always pass it on. I think that is what we all need to do. If someone takes time out from their day to gift you something, you should, in my opinion do something for someone else. It could be as simple as paying for the car behind you in a drive through, or seeing someone in need and offering a larger contribution.
In that sense, I am thinking Bethenny should have sent a personal note with a photo of Brynn waking up to the nutcracker.
I have a sibling who sends me lovely hand painted cards on special occaisions and I appreciate them so much. However, things I give in return with sentimental value that I thought would be appreciated were not well received. I do understand Dorinda feeling like she gave something from her heart and she did not receive the response she expected. It’s not a nice feeling. HOWEVER, I thought Bethenny told her how grateful she was several times and I think Dorinda is being a dick.
I completely agree, considering Dorinda just gave her the contact, the guy located it, picked it up, delivered it & Bethenny paid for it! Bethenny told Dorinda more than once that she was grateful & that she saved Christmas, but, a handwritten note would have prevented all this drama. Dorinda is being a dick!
Wonder what Carol thinks of Dorinda throwing her under the bus to Bethenny on tonight’s episode?
Carol is being really strange this season, she is not herself, wonder what is going on with her?
Yes!! Dorinda put her in touch with someone she could buy a nutcracker from, she didn’t buy it, she didn’t deliver it, I doubt she had to work too hard on it, but there was obviously gratitude shown for her helping locate it. Why does it have to be so much more than that? It is a serious pet peeve of mine when people give gifts or do nice things for others but there are strings attached. My thinking is, if you won’t be ok not getting a thank you or not getting the exact response you want, don’t do it. You either do things because you truly want to or you don’t do them at all. It’s so insincere. Same with Sonja letting Tinsley stay with her.
Dorinda e-introducing Bethenny to her Christmas decorator is a HUGE gift! Not just for delivery of the nutcracker, but Bethenny now has a great contact whom I’m sure she will use in the future to source various decorations for her (not just for Christmas. For other holidays and her promotional parties and possibly even for unique gifts to give her charity workers.)
But yes, Bethenny certainly did express her gratitude to Dorinda in private and to both Dorinda and the decorator in a group setting. But the group gratitude was heavily towards the decorator (he got the hug. Whereas in the private setting Dorinda got the hug.) It was petty of Dorinda to be jealous of the decorator being the center of attention there! He got hugs and photos of him with B and the nutcracker.
The way this season is progressing, had Bethenny given Dorinda all the attention instead of the decorator, the Petty-Party-Pals would have whined about her not giving credit to the poor man that did all of the work.
I think your spot on TT…you never quite know how your “reciporated” gift or note will be received. After watching the episode again as those follow up repeat episodes kind of suck me in too, I noticed that it really wasn’t that big of deal. Carol (who let’s be honest is being a little hard on B much like when your arguing with your husband he cant do anything right) mentioned B didnt really thank her and Dorinda noticed too. It was mentioned, but I don’t think D was pissed at B. Just kind of a note to self. As B has the habit if saying she’s entitled to feel a certain way, we all are. No big thing, keep it moving. Ramona did make it more than it was and with her and Bs history, well that’s understandable too.
B doesn’t have alot of close friends and by her own admission is not able to forgive people easily. She has a habit of “my way or the highway”. B is a bit jealous of Carol and Tinsley and for the reasons stated before I think B could get territorial over the friends she does have. Some of the things B has said, Carole is jobless, husbandless, childless, non supportive…I mean none of those things are very nice nor are they any different than when they met. I think B may need a little bit more blind loyalty than Carole is prepared to give. Carole has the right to feel how she does and just because she disagrees with B doesn’t have to hurt their friendship.
I thought it was interesting that Bethany has always come across as the “truth” teller of the group and to hear her rendition on the Christmas text and sending 3 sentences to which Carole replied that’s alot…well to hear Carole’s side and that’s not actually what happened was intriguing to me. Looks like B edits too and clearly in her favor.
Good night all! Sweet dreams!
Why are we assuming that Bethenny’s lying and not Carole? Carole was denying that Bethenny had sent her multiple texts about her marathon until Bethenny pulled them up on her phone.
Here’s the thing. I live in the bloody UK and I can source an FAO Schwartz nutcracker at the last minute. Its not that big a deal if you have the odd contact and the money to pay for it and the time and patience to look. Any of Bethenneys assistants could have pulled it off in a hot second. Was Dorinda that desperate for a storyline that’s all she got? That and mild alcoholism?
yes and yes in my opinion.
Both Carole & Bethanny have shown they are extreme grudge holders.. I doubt this friendship has any chance of being repaired much less resolved in an adult like manner. It would be sad if they ever truly had an authentic friendship. All I have seen is both of them tearing down other people & a juvenile gang up mentality towards others they don’t approve of ( to numerous to mention )
I agree with you Marc. Carole gravitates to one person to gang up with, usually against any of the other women. First Heather, then Bethanny and now surprisingly Tinsley. I’m surprised because she comes across as more cerebral or intellectually driven than Tinsley, but maybe her mean-girl tendency is a stronger motivator. I’ve read her books and admire her work, but sometimes she rubs me the wrong way.
She and Tinsley were dating friends. Scott is friends with Adam and similar ages (32 and 39). So Carole finally had a girlfriend she would double date with and do couples things with!
The other ladies have older gentlemen friends. Adam is too young to be an equal conversationally. Yes, he has his charitable work and has done interesting things, but here’s an example: He didnt’ know the expression “a wooden leg.” Carole had to explain it to him. It’s something John the dry cleaner, or Tom (Luann’s ex), or any of Ramona’s boyfriends would have known.
There are going to be a lot of expressions and cultural references that Adam’s just too young to get. Likewise, Adam had a 1990’s childhood, and 2010’s young adulthood that gives him different references.
I was watching an SNL from the 70’s and it wasn’t that fun for my 25-32 year-old children because I had to explain half the jokes LOL! e.g. Chevy Chase pretending to be President Ford: “He’s stumbling because people thought of Ford as clumsy” (although he played football at Michigan so I know he just had a few off moments.)
OH I think Tinsley did try to drag Luann a little bit. When she was loudly exclaimed that Luann had 4 felonies and she had only 2 misdemeanors. Honestly seeing that arrest it was ludicrous to charge her with any feliny. She was a smack talking drunk who wasn’t going to kill anyone and there were enough police to handle her. Surely they have run into drunks before? In any case Luann hasn’t run from it. She is still holding her head high. Tinsley was the pit calling the kettle black, no one continued the conversation with her.
I died laughing watching Ramona talk about all of her fine business qualitiesshe says she is so intelligent about it. Her wines failed, her true renewal didn’t do anything. She is changing names because Mario’s business is True Faith. I thought she made her money buying high end overstock and last season to sell to Ross, TJ Max, etc.
I am ready for Bethenny and Carole to break up and move on. The romance is over. Talking about it ad nauseum wont help. Carole is mad about something though. She has been trasing Bethenny on twitter for weeks.
Sonja and Tinsley were a little backwards right? Doesn’t the guest take a gift to the host? Still, it was sweet of Scott/Tinsley to do that. I do really hate Louis Vuitton signature pieces. The bags are canvas, not even leather that is coated with LV all over it. The color doesn’t work for me most of all. They do make lovely bags but people wouldn’t know you had an LV. I imagine Sonja was really pleased with it though.
I am more likely to give gifts because I see something that is perfect for someone or if you did something for me than I do on everyone’s bday, anniversary etc. I just cant remember all of them. My mailman loves coke so I leave him an icy cold coke every day. I have a styrofoam cooler at the door. He knows it’s his. I reckon he appreciates it as much as a LV bag with robe & slippers
Wow! That is a lot of Coke! You are a better woman than I.
So Mario got the jewlery line?
It was his family’s generational business. It is an awards company that has a religious jewelry line.
But how about her admitting that she got a gift from a person previously that she invited on her yacht al….and tried to take it back and found at it was fake. Who takes back a LV bag? Horrible manners.
I thought the same thing. How tacky of her to do so. I can visualize her running off that yacht and running into LV. She totally deserved to be humiliated at LV for trying to return the item. It says a lot more about Sonja that I really didn’t want to know.
LuAnn forced her way out of the handcuffs and got back out of the police car after being detained. In Florida, that’s felony resisting arrest and it’s a VERY big deal. She was very lucky to have come out of it unscathed and charges dropped. That kind of behavior has been known to get other arrestees beaten and/or shot/tased.
The signature bags are the cheap ones. I’ve been debating getting one, it’s a lot to spend for my income bracket. I do think they’re classic but had no idea they weren’t leather!!
One other thing while I am rambling. I hate that Sonja is always left on her own like her friends don’t know her at parties. She has got to be one of the most fun people in NYC. She would have me laughing all night. The 26 yr old was too old to be her young lover and not established enough to be an old boyfriend. Bawaaa
She is a vegan so there wasn’t much to eat except garnish, told the waiter the garbanzos would make her gassy. Then she decided she could eat from the seafood bar because it was raw. I am telling you, a night with her would be hysterical.
Yes, I so agree. Sonja is truly, truly funny. Best wit on the show and never mean spirited.
A night with her would suck the life right out of me. She is neither funny nor witty.
Agree. She is crazy. And she certainly has been mean on many occasions, e.g., when she sells (false) stories about her “friends” to Page Six.
And tries to sell fake LV’s :).
And she is mean spirited. We’ve seen it many times, particularly towards Lu.
I think being out with Sonja would be fun ONE TIME. After that her antics would become exhausting. I don’t want to be her snatch guard and I don’t want to see her nipples. I don’t want to hear about her sexual experiences or listen to her delusions of grandeur. I used to think she was funny and interesting. Now she makes me sad.
Let’s face it, shall we? The Bravo show formula….Put a bunch of alcoholic rich or wanna be rich women in front of a camera individually and in groups. Let them exist, cohabitate, socialize and/or try to exist ….to justify their existence thru a bunch of rich men, rich alcoholic men or men in general.
I thought Sonja’s confessional re the LV bag was a riot. She said someone gave her an LV bag as a guest on her yacht (yeah right) and that when she tried to return it, she learned it was a fake — only Sonja would run right out to try to return an expensive gift — for money or whatever else!
Sonja was the best part of this episode, although seeing the Skinny Girl party looked pretty epic.
Yes Carole, I do think you are crying about Adam . Now you are forced to come out of your teenage bubble of chilling and getting stoned and sleeping all day. I just don’t think Carole likes reality too much. She must not if she actually thought her relationship with Adam would continue on and on.
Agreed. She knew the relationship had a shelf life because Adam told her he wanted children. She doesn’t. So even adoption wouldn’t solve that huge problem.
The relationship could have continued if she hadn’t kicked him out of her apartment. Couples can live together for years if they want, but going from living together to having separate apartments is going backwards.
Then she told him they were now just friends or FWB or whatever she told him. That was the death knell to the relationship. She was trying to be “the cool girl” to keep him interested/chasing her. But it backfired. He’s not that alpha. He took her literally and started dating other people.
Luann’s talking head was so honest . I love a comeback story and Luann is it. She looks amazing and healthy now! I just can not understand why Tom agreed to get married! Why? When he knew that he was going to cheat 5 mins later??
Seriously why? Lu talking about explaining it to her mom broke my heart.
I think he pictured the lifestyle they would have together. This episode Luann mentioned going to a wedding in Chile and then visiting friends in Argentina. On the episode where she slept with the pirate she covered by saying she’d run into Italian friends whom she invited back to the guest house.
I suppose he doesn’t have a vast international group of friends.
So Carole can email Luann about her arrest but, not her divorce?! That’s so hypocritical. She said herself in episode 1 or 2 that she and Luann aren’t close and reaching out to her about the divorce would’ve been insincere. But they’re so much closer now? Give me a break. She was trying to build her anti Bethenny team. Watching this I really don’t think B ever knew they were in a fight until filming started. I don’t think B really stood a chance with Carole once she decided she was done with her. I’m sad Dorinda has piled on. It’s mean grade school mentality.
I completely agree! This is hard to watch and quite honestly for women who profess to be feminists who support women….seriously?
Honestly, I am pretty sure that even had Bethenny rented space in Times Square to thank Dorinda the way she wanted to be thanked, it would not have been enough. Dorinda jumping into the hate bandwagon is not attractive either. She is not making it nice.
Ramona is horrible, just horrible. I used to enjoy watching her and Sonja but she seems to be more involved in the Hate B club this season and avoiding Sonja. It used to be entertaining to have the Ramona version of events but it seems all very angry and pot stirring this season.
Sonja. Oh Sonja. She is fun to watch, I don’t understand why they leave her alone so much.
Tinsley is there and doing some things but right now I am not sure how I feel about her, she is quick to jump on the hate wagon for Sonja and Bethenny but at the same time she is fun – asking Luann to come over for a drink…really? LOL.
Luann was sad to watch but i am really so glad that she has turned it around. Say what you want to about her (and Carole has in her blog), Luann is able to stand up, brush herself off and move forward. Something not a ton of housewives are able to do. She does not constantly bring up the past and she is trying to fix the future.
I like Bethenny, I do not always pick her side but I like that she is pretty honest about herself and shortcomings, she seems to be aware that she is far from perfect (who is?) but this season it is hard to watch her. It is painful enough going through a breakup or a friendship breakup, but it seems she really had no idea that it was as unable to be fixed Carole apparently does. I think what we are watching is Bethenny really being betrayed by who she believed was a true friend. True friends, no matter how pissed they get do not tell others what you say about them.
Carole is angry, or seems angry and sad and if you read the Bravo blogs it is very clear that this is true. This is not a pretty side to her and makes her hard to watch too. So for me no more watching, i will read your recaps as they are the best 🙂 Wow…rambling. Sorry! Waiting on coffee to kick in.
I wish I could get the blogs. They’re not updating for me for whatever reason. I think Dorinda would’ve let it go but then she got the memo that it’s everyone vs Bethenny. I can’t stand the gang mentality. I actually liked Carole before this season despite my husband telling me she sucked. Yes he’ll watch this with me and no he’s not gay. He usually likes people more than me. But, all I’m getting this season is a chorus of I told you she sucks.
Oh and he’s not a Bethenny fan either, so him sticking up for her speaks volumes.
Exactly!! i am on the same page as you are!
Same, same, same!
I think Carole emailing Luann was merely a passive-aggressive way to gloat about Luann’s problems. She doesn’t like Luann and never has.
Carole is very angry — about Adam. Everything she has been doing seems aimed at that — new hair, makeup, clothes, the marathon, and fighting with Bethenny. IMO
For sure. It was so hypocritical. I always thought this was about something deeper than Adam till I saw him in one of Tinsley’s commercials last night. It’s all so sad.
I have figured out what has bothered me so much about the Carole/Bethenny breakup. Bethenny is the same person she has been since she started with the show. She is the same quick-wit, quick-biting, hustling woman with major trust and friendship issues she has always been. Carole on the other hand has always been sardonic and tongue-in-cheek about the show. Carole’s earlier blogs made fun of the women’s issue’s about “talking about each other behind their backs”, I recall one of her talking heads stating “it’s what women do” “that is real life” (or something to that effect).
This season Carole is personifying the very women she so strongly mocked in earlier seasons.
Yes!!!
Does anyone know what happened to the friendship between Carole and Yummy Tummy Heather? They were besties and then not so much. It was awkward seeing them together at the marathon.
Something is very wrong with Carole I hope she is not ill. She looks frail and sickly to me. Eating Disorder or not I think something is definitely up.
Totally agree with you.
Has anyone figured out to whom the third mugshot belongs?
Several wrote above it was Sonja. For a DUI in the Hamptons.
Ramona seems to have learned a new word this season – maven. It seems she says it just about every episode. She must be so proud. Does Ramona seriously think that anyone believes she has great skin because of some cream? We’ve all see the peels, the procedures and never-ending periods. Her last skin care line never really seemed to take off. Not very maven-like behavior if you ask me.
“People always say I have great skin and I’m aging backwards so I decided to create a skin-care line.” If she ALREADY had great skin, how can she attribute it to a new skin-care line she is now creating?
It doesn’t make sense. Now if she had been using her own secret ingredients (including grapefruit juice) and just now decided to bottle it, that would be a reasonable way to market the products.
Maybe she should have just gotten a deal with one of the products/procedures that she already uses, and attribute her youthful skin to that.
Carole seems to be deeply sensitive about why Adam was with her. That seems to be why she just wouldn’t let Luanne’s “robbing the cradle” or “pedophile” remarks go, literally years later. It’s why she’s so mad that Bethenny said something about him being an opportunist. And it’s certainly why she’s suddenly dressing like a girl Adam’s age.
Yeah, I think Carol is hurting more than she is letting on. It has to sting a bit with the age difference and Luanne’s comments. They were together for 3 years; this should prove to the naysayers that there was substance to the relationship.
This feud seems overblown. Either there’s more to the story or Carol is taking it out on B. And yes, B is no picnic, I realize that.
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Luann saying she is embarrassed that her kids had to see it… Now now the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree as her daughter Victoria was arrested for DUI…
The look on Ramona’s face when Dorinda said only a low life would’ve attended Tom’s party in Palm Beach makes me think maybe Ramona was one of the “low lifes” at the party, LOL
Ramona repeatedly said she ran into Tom but was careful not to disclose where.
That is exactly what I thought from Ramona’s face. You know she was there — probably with her best friend (Tom’s old girl friend).
She was probably Missy’s plus-one!
I think Bethenny’s first remark about Carol was closest to the mark. She doesn’t have an identity of her own so she takes on the one of the person she’s closest to at that time. She needed Tinsley. She is younger than the others and Adam is the youngest of them all ergo Carol and Tinsley become besties. And since she is inhabiting the other person’s persona, there is no room for Bethenny at all and she’s trying to make that Bethenny’s fault. The way she has talked about her this year is disgusting to me. Just move on, Carol. There is no reason to drag Bethenny as you try to appear much younger than you are. I think Adam was gone when he realized there would be no children.
I’ll do it for y’all. I know that I’m a huge Bethenny fan and have been since she didn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out, as the old saying goes. Carol, you’re cruel and you’re saying and writing lots of words to try to cover your bad acts.
Naw, he didn’t take three years to realize there would be no children. She was 51 when they met and is 54 now. So biological children were off the table the moment he met her. Regarding adopting or surrogacy, I doubt Carole suggested those options or seemed keen on them.
Early on Carole said that Adam wanted children and she didn’t and that she only had two good summers left.
SHE “broke up” (or downgraded their relationship) with him. Not vice versa. She kicked him out of her apartment because she was tired of his stuff being around and taking up space.
Even then, it was wishy washy about whether they were broken up. And it was entirely driven by Carole. We never heard Adam say that he wanted his own space or wanted to find a woman he could marry, etc.
What happened to Carole’s face? Her face and lips are lopsided. Please, someone tell me her plastic surgeon’s name so I can avoid him. I wish we knew the “real” reason Bethenny Frankel and Carole are no longer friends. I feel like we are getting a very engineered reason for the feud and there is something so much deeper than what they are talking about so far.
Again WTH happened to Carole’s face? Omigosh.
Great recap as always TT.
Too many fillers that girl don’t eat and has a harsh jagged bony body, the plumped up face contradicts the starved body IMO
Bravo needs to replace Ramona. Being a bitch and crazy eyes can only carry one so far and Ramona has become a bore in her quest to declare herself a maven.
At least Bethenny always has something interesting going on and throws cool parties. I love to see her succeed. I think she is genuinely trying to salvage a friendship with carol.
Carol is just an angry bitch who lost the young hot guy and starves herself. She needs too many kudos for running a damn marathon. I find it abusive when she refuses to let Bethenny speak, what is carol so afraid of? Bethenny must have some real dirt on Carol or Adam.
Dorinda is a two faced boring hostile drunk, case closed on her its just a matter of time till she ends up in jail. I would bet $$ that broken foot is alcohol related. Queen shit stirrer and still not interesting. The blue hair looks awful. Don’t understand how anyone who behaves the way Dorinda does when she is drunk has the gall to judge anyone else? Blows my mind.
Poor LouAnn, I think she really loved stupid worthless Tom. Lessons learned Lou onward and upward!
Tinsley just hangs onto carol and tries to fit in with the rest of them.
Anyone who calls their in-laws and former husband “WHITE TRASH ” (allegedly) No wonder he went baliistic on her, marries for sperm, then attempts to distance the Father and grandparents including Mother and pains so many people who say she is a pathological liar does not have my respect.
Jason is white trash.
If Bethanny thought Jason and his family were “WHITE TRASH” why did she marry him???
Jason’s mother appeared to be a lovely woman, until she (intentionally or not) helped Jason commit fraud to steal from Bethenny.
Carole is an insufferable egotist, who criticizes everything. A lot like Bethenny, in that regard, but I think Carole is the one that’s been behind almost all of the nastiness over the past four years.
When even the mildest offense seeps under her crepe-thin skin, she never (and I mean NEVER) lets it go, and mos def foments hate against whomever went against her wishes. She’s dreadfully fucked up that way. She is so cowardly that she always says things like “WE laugh at you”, “WE think she…” “WE call it thus and such..”– she can’t hold herself accountable for shit.
The worst of Carole though, may be how phony she is. She will say to one’s face, that things are fine, let’s move on, I’m happy for you Lu, etc., but in actuality is still evilly obsessed with dragging someone down, Carole is an agent provocateur, but not a terribly clever one– just a plain old nasty, bitter, hateful witch. Some are saying that Ramona and Dorinda are putting Carole up to this– nope. Carole is the ring leader here, just like I believe she was the ring leader in bringing down Aviva, Jules, Luann, and Sonja in past seasons.
I agree with you completely I would very much like to hear what Aviva thinks right now.
I wish I would have read the Shelia post before purple penning Carole’s blog just now, if only for this part, ” even the mildest offense seeps under her crepe-thin skin…” Brilliant.
Oh I’m blushing, Miss T– <3<3<3
I think you are seeing Carole as she really is and it’s kind of spooky.
Carol’s mother-in-law, Lee Radziwill, seems to adore Luann, her tweets are fascinating. I’ll bet this ticks off Carole, whose main claim to fame was a connection to Kennedy’s through Lee. Seemed like Carole and Bethenny bonded over hating Luann. Never a good basis for a friendship.
Is it really Lee R or a parody account? I saw a parody account with her name on it.
I think it’s a parody account, but Lee Radziwill has a brilliantly biting and snarky reputation. Carole is perhaps playing homage.
Oh, I didn’t even notice that, thanks for informing me! Whoever writes it is fascinating!
I’m calling it now. Luanne’s tagline next season is going to use getting out of those handcuffs.
You nailed Tamara!!!! “She called Adam an operator” there we have it folks , that’s what this is all about! Bethenny probably told her the truth like “Adam really doesn’t like you for your old saggy tits Carole” and she lost it , finally someone told her the truth. Take a look at Mikaela Rubin, Adam’s cooking friend. She’s His age, gorgeous , likes to travel and is a vegan cook. He likes to make cooking videos with her and I bet this really hurts Carole’s ego. I’m sure Bethenny pointed this out and she lost it.
Can we also please comment on her moronic comment “she has 1 more kid than me” like B has 1 more cat than her. This just sums up how Carole has absolutely no clue what it is like being a parent! No Carole , you do not have anything in common with Bethenny!
Haven’t watched the episode yet, but loved the recap! As for the third mugshot, doesn’t Sonja have a DUI arrest? I seem to remember it happening shortly after her very first season. Was there a mugshot involved there?
Do women who aren’t skinny really want to wear jeans that say “Skinny Girl”? I understand that that’s her brand, but wish she’d come up with a better name. Even “S. Girl” or “SGJ” (J for Jeans) would be better than a plus-size lady with the word “Skinny” on her rear.
Or she could have made a totally different company not under the SG umbrella, like her “B Strong Foundation.” How about “B Strong Jeans”! That goes with the female-empowerment theme.
Great recap!