I alluded to this in a not so blind, blind item recently. I was waiting for all of the particulars to be worked out before making an official announcement. I was hoping to hear more details about the discussion between Bravo and Thomas but the information is sparse. He will definitely not be returning next season. I’m told that the decision was made at the Bravo level (Not the Haymaker or NBCu level although all three levels of production have been discussion this issue in depth since the allegations broke.)
Bravo doesn’t plan to make any statements on the issue until the reunion films. Decisions have not been made regarding whether or not Thomas will be on the reunion or not. However, that will be the first time anyone will be allowed to speak publicly on the subject. It sounds to me like Thomas will decide if he wants to be on the reunion or not. Thomas’ lawyers may have the last word on that. UPDATE! THOMAS WILL NOT BE AT THE REUNION.
Either way, Bravo is going to make their first public statement at the reunion. At that time, cast mates will have the gag order lifted and be able to say what they want to say about the situation, if they choose to discuss it at all.
I’m trying to decide what I think Thomas will do if the decision is in fact left up to him. Should he sit there with a lawyer who constantly repeats that his client has not been charged with any crimes, if in fact he still has not been at that time? Or constantly repeating something like, “my client looks forward to the truth coming out in trial” if by that time he is charged? Or would it be better for him to just skip the reunion all together?
Thomas hired a “crisis manager” a couple of weeks ago after two news reports aired on the local Charleston news channel. There are now three women who have made allegations of varying degrees of assault by Thomas Ravenel.
There is no precedent for this. No one has ever been fired prior to the reunion before. Do you think he will show up for the reunion this season or not? The reunion should film sometime later this month.
I think he’ll show. He’s just ignorant enough to think people will believe he’s just “a good ole boy”. He’s disgusting and I hope he’s stuck with Ashley after his next prison stint.
I agree completely, Gretch. The only thing preventing that would be if his attorneys advise him not to. What will be really interesting is to see whether any of the castmates speak up. Not sure which way that will go.
As much as I despise TRav and the way he tries to play with Kathryn’s emotions (that’s not working, but then maybe it does sometimes if they slept together after the last reunion), what I’m really looking forward to is whether Ashley will find a way to be there and what will come out of her unbelievably clueless mouth. I bet Andy will make sure she appears – she’s potentially far too outrageous for him to pass over. I must admit, I’ll also miss the drama TRav brings – the way he almost jumped out of his seat at Chelsea was terrifying – if I’d been her, I’d have been really scared and I noticed she did jump back. That shows a very ugly side of him he usually manages to keep hidden. Then compare that to his lack of balls when Ashley was going off at Kathryn and he wouldn’t step in “for fear of disrespecting Ashley”, even though his baby mama was being horribly disrespected. He’s so pretentious because he’s been raised to think himself superior to most people, and it looks as though he’ll finally be taken down a peg or two, or three. Thanks for the update, Tamara. Your “connections” really keep us well informed.
Well said, the reality show will get allot of press and as you so correctly stated Andy can’t resist the drama. I do wonder if Ashley will remain with the Harvey Weinstein of Charleston. T-Rav’s outrages have to be from a lack of confidence in himself his facade of masculinity comes out when his short fuse gets lit. I started watching only for my love of Charleston, I enjoy the good girls Cameron and Chelsea they have had enough class not to get pulled into the drama. Whitney although he plays and hangs with the boys doesn’t seem to have the same screw everyone in sight I respect that about him
I hate drama in real life stay away from it nothing good comes out of it
I’m going to guess, Thomas can’t get it up anymore. From all of those years of drug use, I just presume he is impotent.
Alcohol abuse sure does that too over time. Ashley has him looking like a washed up senior citizen after just a year with her. Having him lounging about around pools or getting his toenails done instead of being out riding polo horses will accelerate circulation damage too.
He has two kids, so doubt that?
Be gone..you leering scudsy fuck. Won’t miss him. The show will go on…hopefully with the best MAN..Craig..! My favorite..the guy’s got soul! And he’s interesting..I always love to hear where he’s coming from..!
Yes. That is one of many forms of impotence from which he suffers. Unfortunately he was engaging to watch. But the sexual predation and death wishes for Kathryn ring too true. Another OJ. Big persona disguising a big void.
Sheri, the 2 kids were conceived years ago. His substance abuse has visibly deteriorated sharply since then and he is coming up to 56 in a few months – so I think TT’s guess is very likely set in by now. .
I think Ashley’s year with him has finished him off. In this week’s show she emasculated him (painting toenails with him in scuddy boxers), infantilised him ( especially brushing his hair with kiddies’ hair brush), and dominated him (I’m the boss) – for all we know she now spanks him at home. He has lost it and is not someone I want to tune in to watch. Very distasteful in what started out as a vaguely ‘glamour’ lifestyle in Charleston show.
OMG. So true. Would totally explain a lot!
Because he was busted for it, I won’t use “allegedly” here. Cocaine is known to cause “wobbly weenie situation.” But usually it goes away once a guy stops using it. But the psychological effects can continue. I think you are on to something here Miss T.
Perfectly said English Rose! Apparently this is his baseline behavior to get angry over something he considers unfair to his entitlement. I thought is was sad that none of the men came forward in a stronger manner to protect Chelsea. Can you imagine being a small child and witnessing this terrifying behavior from your parent? Haymaker and Bravo are treading on thin ice. Bill Cosby’s guilty verdict and the rest of the sleaze bags that have gone down due to sexual harassment, assault, etc make this a very serious situation and sensitive for their female viewers. Thomas needs to be incarcerated. It would do him al ot of good. Otherwise there is little hope he will ever change his scumbag behavior.
You say it would do him a lot of good, but he was in federal prison before and it didn’t do him any good at all! (He was State Treasurer and also State Chairman for the Giuliani presidential campaign when he got convicted of distributing cocaine!)
Let’s say he ends up in court with some of these “allegations” I wonder if convicted, if it would be “harsher” as he is a convicted felon?
It will be harsher because if he is convicted of the current allegations he will be in jail not some Federal Camp. Jail is a LOT harsher than Prison.
I could be wrong, but I understand jails typically are local holding facilities for people awaiting trial, awaiting sentencing or serving short term (1yr). If TRav were tried and convicted, then as TT wrote, the prison would not be a “Fed Camp” for white collar criminals, but it would be more like a penitentiary.
My” people with ridiculously spelled names are generally idiots”, is followed closely by people who start posts with, “I could be wrong” being wrong 97.888% of the time.
Jails are full of felons because state penitentiaries are full. There are people in jails for years waiting to get to a penitentiary.
I don’t think Thomas will likely be convicted unless a more recent victim comes forward. But if he is, his time in lockdown will be VERY DIFFERENT from a federal prison.
Shall we split some more hairs?
Aww, thank you, Tamara! You made me feel better 🙂
And we have the same taste in men– I married an engineer. He’s also a lawyer, so you can imagine the, uh, conversations.
He’s the one who got me hooked on Bravo and every day he wants me to fill him in on the latest news from your site. All day he was worried you were going to ban me! He’s going to be so relieved (I’m not kidding!)
OMG! I never ban engineers! I can’t believe your comments aren’t longer. My dad was engineery. If you asked him the time you often got the history or watchmaking lecture.
I had a huge fight with my boyfriend years ago because I am afraid of lightning and he started in on a complete dissertation on lightning. He started talking about ball lightning and for some reason I thought that was the funniest thing I’d ever heard. I kept saying, “Ball lightning” and laughing and he was very serious about it being a real thing and I kept pretending like it wasn’t and he was HIGHLY offended and distant for days.
I mean, ball lightning is kinda funny.
That’s hilarious (though there are some cool videos about ball lightning on YouTube)
I was right about my husband being relieved! He proudly wears his “Real Men Watch Bravo” t-shirt to the gym.. though he might like wearing it because random women come up to tell him they watch, too
My family would warn you not to tempt me into longer replies, ha! I can hear them groaning now.. Though I think deep down they appreciate my stories.
I would’ve loved your Dad.
I stand corrected. No more hair splitting. Can’t blame it on 1 am ambien tweeting.
Haven’t been called an idiot in a few decades, but I have to say my family laughs at my screen name. When I posted my first comment (on this or any site) a few years ago, my first and last names were taken already, so I just wrote what I was doing at the time, taking a break from work. I’ve wanted to change it, but didn’t want you to think I was using multiple names for some other reason.
In any case, sorry.
I wasn’t talking about your screen name. I love your screen name. I was talking about people who spell their real names weirdly with all sorts of extra letters. My theory is that if the parents were unable to properly spell their kids names, the gene pool is probably fairly shallow. 🙂
And please, engineers love arguing and splitting hairs this is why I’ve dated so many of them. lol. You may not have noticed, but I can be a tad argumentative…
He better hope he doesn’t go to Ridgeland, CF, it’s rough, and many gangs from Orangeburg, that is one rough place. Can get killed in there, shanked.
The most amusing part of Thomas thinking he is superior to everyone is that Kathryn actually has the longer and better lineage among the cast if you are into that kind of thing.
State Senator Rembert C. Dennis was her grandfather, Kathryn is also a direct descendant of seventh Vice President of the United States, John C. Calhoun, which is where her middle name comes from
My opinion, Thomad, will get through this,he will be pardon,by Rudy’s best friend and Southern Charm will resume.Whitney states,this is his baby,well you better write your self some good lines and make Kathyrn your Love interest, because this show is Dead in the water,if the mini thug is not there.
There are some of us who just wouldn’t be able to stomach seeing TRav on another season. I doubt the public is really with him. Maybe a bigger role for Mrs. A????
Not true for me! I do not wish to view Thomas’s putrid and repellant lifestyle any more. Disgusting and boring. I want a new, erergized, (younger than Thomas) leading man to be acquired by Bravo. One of the local newspapers could maybe run a suggestion box.
If Thomas is guilty and gets away with it and continues on SC. Then, we, along with the cast are just as bad if we keep watching.
His accusers are all fairly recent and as with most serial sexual predators there are probably more victims waiting to come forward. It is a sad situation for the children.
Ashley is terrible for Thomas’ image. If his crisis managers have any common sense they’d have him pay her off to go away well before the reunion.
I agree, she has brought out the worst in him! With him being fired I don’t see this fame hoe sticking around. And SC certainly isn’t going to want her!
Very well said!! I could not imagine the Shock that Chelsea was feeling an how Ashley thought it was ok to speak to Kathryn the way she did especially being with Thomas an knowing that he shares Children with Kathryn! Ashley said things that can never be taken back an I have to add,Ashley sounded like She was not only drinking too much but sounded as if a bit of Pills aka Cocktail was included an to be honest I hope so because she is Nasty at the Mouth an jealous an that is not good,neither is Thomas! Who stands by an lets a Girl of 3 months speak that way to the Mother of their Children
#THOMASDOES,THATSWHO!
Ashley’s mouth is not clueless to my thinking.
When Ashley attacked Kathryn and got not response, Ashley upped her attack with nasty comments about the Nanny, still Kathryn was quiet.
Ashley had planned on provoking Kathryn to fight back, becoming more defensive until she was personally attacking and threatening Ashley.
That is what she expected from Kathryn a full blown crazy attack then all the girls would had felt bad for Ashley.
That was Ashley’s plan.
I’ve known people like Ashley that make the victim look like the perpetrator by poking those buttons.
Kathryn somehow knew what Ashley was trying to do.
WTG Kathryn.
Wish Shep was with Kathryn.
If he’s still with Ashley and she’s still rubbing off on him, he will absolutely be there. Remember “there’s no such thing as bad publicity.” ALLEGEDLY
I think he will show too. He’s just so arrogant and superior acting. He does act like he is above laws or rules and that amazes me after him finding himself in a shit storm he couldn’t get out of in the past with his drug conviction.
Took the words out of my mouth, Thomas is waaaaaaay toooo egotistical, arrogant, and narcissistic (just to name a few) to not show up on the reunion to “speak his peace”. After i read the news from the ladies who he sexually assaulted my first thought was this man has a daughter, and i hope for her sake Kathryn will get full custody (eventually). TRAV coupled w/Ashely, that is a tike bomb waiting to happen, she is seriously possessive and the pushy engagement talk makes her look so thirsty and petty. I’ll say this, if my new girlfriend sat across the table from the mother of my kids and said “you dont give a ahit about those kids, i see them more than you do”, I would put her ass ob the ferry back to wherever she came from. I used to love Southern Charm, but the whole Trav/Ashley vs. Kathryn just makes me so disgusted, I’m happy Kathryn has done so well with her sobriety, she is going to need all tge support she can get.
I don’t think he will because he will know he would just get nailed to the wall and he would flip out and show his violent side again, digging his hole bigger!!!!!! He’s a psycho!
He’s an adrenaline junkie though. He likes to live on the edge. Why else would he even be on such a show? He doesn’t need the money. He is certainly well-known in his own state to not need the fame. His violent side has been shown in past seasons and he signed right back up for more.
Remember the dinner he hosted where he insulted everyone and kicked everyone out before dinner was served? LOL! All of those gorgeous steaks the caterers were broiling became refrigerated left-overs I guess.
TRav is the perfect catch for a gold digger just trolling for a sucker to sue! Ashley was setting him up on Part 2 for the fall.
Didn’t he recently do an interview where he basically admitted to everything while still speaking broadly enough about all the things “rich powerful guys” have to deal with/are allowed to do to leave the smallest amount of speculation out there that he wasn’t speaking specifically about himself? That seems to be the Thomas way. I assume he will do something similar at the reunion. He will think he’s denying everything but his contempt for the women he has wronged will not allow him to fully avoid talking about the situations and trying to put the blame on them/prove that he’s just being taken advantage of because he’s such a “wealthy, powerful, famous” man. He may, in his attempted defense, end up leaking even more details and damning himself even more. I see Thomas as similar to trump, in that he can’t keep himself from talking about the things he shouldn’t, and in doing so, ends up digging himself into a deeper hole with the details he lets come out.
Also similar to trump in that he will surround himself with advisors and yet still refuse to take their advice, thinking that he always knows what’s best and that there’s nothing he says or does that he can’t wriggle his way out of later. Thomas has a serious case of old school misogynistic good old boy syndrome, and it has almost always worked for him in the past. Even though he ended up in prison for cocaine use and “sharing,” I would bet that if he weren’t Thomas Ravenel, good old Charleston boy, he would’ve ended up spending many, many more years in prison than he did. The fact that he was able to come back from all that, maintain and grow his wealth, star on a national television show, continue to attract numerous young women to sleep with, including someone as young, beautiful, and connected as Kathryn to make beautiful, well connected, old lineage babies with, has probably all fed his ego and his sense that he can do, and get away with, anything he wants.
And then he’ll ask trump for a pardon ?????
And probably get it. A wealthy white male who promises to vote R for the rest of his life. Wait, can Thomas vote?
A pardon is from the punishment you are still convicted.
Expunged wipes it clean,
I think.
I don’t know squat.
Pardon power only applies to federal crimes, so at least there’s that…..
Sad that some with that much power n money doesnt know to utilize it all for the good. Ashley needs to go away n kat , stand for what u deserve. The other men needed to stand up to t rav, but didnt, not a good show of manhood.
The interview where he talks about everything even giving the $200K figure can be found here.
http://tamaratattles.com/2018/05/11/is-it-me-or-is-this-thomas-ravenels-confession/
I don’t watch the show he is on – based on your recaps and his “alleged” history – he seems to be the type of dude that will bully the cast and dare them to say word one about him while he is sitting there.
Glad the douche is gone! I’m sure their worksite will feel better.
I agree with you! If possible, he will be there to ensure the other cast members don’t trash him!
I do think Kathryn may be measured in her comments because she has custody with Thomas. She should just make notes of these last four years and – eventually — write a book.
Any news is Ashley will go with him? She’s heinous. ?
Agreed! When every single other member of the house party was out getting dinner for the group, she and
Thomas lounged around the house, she had the narcissism to say “When are we going to get this famous dinner? We’ve been waiting like 5 hours.” !!!! When the rest of the group had just come in from crabbing and fishing and wanted to grab showers.
Did she think the dinner would start with just her and Thomas there? And before the main course ingredients arrived? Bizarre!
*if
No one wants to film with her. She is done too.
Yeah!!!!!! I’d do cartwheels if the weight of my fat ass wouldn’t break my arms!!!!!
Bravo, Bravo!
Nope! Thomas won’t show up at the reunion. People like him blame everything on everyone else. He must be blaming the show for what is happening?? Thomas is the worst.
he’ll blame the Russians lol
He shouldn’t show. If he does there is something seriously wrong with Bravo.
He seems to have no shame. I think he might show up to be heard. I’m grateful he’ll be gone from the show.
A good chance he and his minders will see the réunion as a platform to reframe their bad behaviour in the hope viewers may cut them some slack and think all accusations about Thomas re. sexual assault were a mistake or lie.
After all, Thomas and Ashley specialise in telling lies – the bigger the better seemingly. For instance their bare faced cyber bullying campaign launched to destroy Luzanne Otte. Who else would have dreamt of doing that?? Thomas is quite likely to turn up and just tell lies.
He will, and should, skip the reunion. I think lawyers and crisis team will win this one, nothing he can say will make his situation better. It is best for him to keep quiet and wait for the “next big story” to take over every one’s attention, then quietly pay the ladies off.
I think that Thomas will be a “no show” but Ashley will crash the reunion to grab her last 5 minutes of fame! LOL
I hope he does. Andy knows what to do. Plow them both (trav and Ashley) with coke (allegedly) and booze and let them talk. The way she runs her mouth she may just be the star of the show. I mean she did look him in the eye and put him down about being a convicted felon lol !!! That was gold to me
He will want to show for sure but the way he ran his mouth in the Quintin Washington interview, his lawyers will strongly advise against it!
If Ashley is invited to the reunion, which I think she will be, she will definitely show so she can speak “HER” truth. I’m sure she can’t wait to speak venomously about Kathryn and all her enabling girlfriends. Not that anything she says is firsthand information, oh no, it’s things she’s been told by others or things she’s read. I can’t believe in last nights episode she shared some BS story about Kathryn and then said it was something she read!!
Truthfully, if she attends the reunion, Andy should say take a drink eveytiime Ashley flips her hair! It’ll take about 10 minutes before we are all naked wasted!
Or take a drink every time she says enabler.
Or CHEALSEA. Come on CHEALSEA!!!!!. I am talkin to you CHELSEA!!!!. HAHA
Good riddance to that predator.
Imo, he will likely submit some kind of a self-serving statement for Andy, or one of his “enabler” cast mates, to read on the reunion show, on his behalf, so he can have the last word, and “the power”.
Yes! In my mind though, I hear him saying it like this- the powah
^^^ Funny!
Yes, very possible. I just think like you he will be trying to screw the narrative while there are plenty of viewers. He will want to be able to show his face it town.
I don’t know whether I’d like to see him there. Certainly not if it means Ashley will be there. And I would prefer not to see him either. On the other hand, it would be great if he got some of his conduct shoved down his throat.
Oh he will for sure show up!! He thinks he has done nothing wrong in his delusional mind!! He has real big problems and I feel very sorry for Kathryn and their children!!
I agree. I don’t think his ego will allow him to not be there.
Yep! This is the guy that learned how to play Bocci Ball in prison and develop his love of Polo. My husband and I were talking about this today and he said they will fight to keep Ashley because she’s ratings gold. I told him that if no one will film with her, she has no scenes. I noticed the pictures she and Shep posted together last week saying everything was good with them now are gone. I figured Bravo didn’t want that information out there. All she needs is one person. She is a Succubus! My guess is Thomas will be there. I can’t imagine him missing an opportunity to say something about everyone else and “imparting some words of wisdom.” I hope this means that buffoon JD will be leaving too! I’m just happy that Kathryn has completed everything she needed to to have her kids back. They love her so much and I pray she stays strong for herself and her babies. She is even more radiant when she’s with them.
My understanding was that JD was effectively written off in the first few episodes.
It would not surprise me at all if Ashley was there. I am starting to buy into the theory that Ashley is not paid by Bravo and her only income was the apartment Thomas got her.
And what has made you think this, TT?
Hes a narcissist, he will be there.
That is sort of the way I am leaning…
Me, too. His lawyers will be threatening to tie him down to prevent him from going, and his family members (if they are speaking to him) will be demanding that he stay off TV. But all that will make him even more determined to go and tell everybody how badly they have treated him (sarcasm). He thinks he is the comeback kid, and no one will ever convince him otherwise.
Ashley will go, too, I think – she already has her wardrobe, I’m sure. (Do they make clothes in size negative?)
The one who should stay away is — Katherine. Please stay away, young lady. You are doing great. Don’t take any chances.
I’m Confused on it will be a recorded Separately thing, or there. He cant give up his “power”. He will definitely have a “last word” somehow, somewhere.
He’ll be there because he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. I’m sure he just shrugs sexual assault off and tries to make a funny comment. He really thinks maybe he made a small mistake but that’s all.
I think he’ll be there. He’s a narcissist, but also part of his personality disorder is to destroy Kathryn. He thinks the more he talks, the more everyone will hate/blame Katheryn and he can Ashley will get their “Southern Charm” crowns. Neither one of them has any self awareness. Let’s say Kathryn is that terrible parent, what business is it of Ashley’s?
It made me sad to hear that. I bet the kids get to sleep with Kathryn and get loved and coddled. At home, they’re probably treated like furniture. I bet the kids love the camera because it makes daddy be nice to them and give them attention.
Good! Asshole. He’ll probably show (I hoe!!)
Um I’m not a hoe!! But I do hope!! ?
I seem to remember him screaming at Katherine ” I will bury you ” during.
the last reunion. KARMA IS A BITCH
He also said he would destroy her during an early reunion. The best thing I can say is that the custody arrangement they settled on was really great for Kathryn and it helped her keep focused on getting her babies back. I’ll give him that, but even then, he was always trying to bait her.
Yes Marc, he did say something along those lines, What type of man says that to the mother of his children? *shuddering*
Unfortunately, I think he’ll be there. Against the advice of his attorneys.
I was married to a man who would threaten me, look at me w ith evil intent, and five minutes later cry and apologize. He was a brilliant, wealthy, great looking man. He was diagnosed bi-polar but would not medicate. After two years of intense marriage counseling, my therapist said, “He is train heading right off the tracks and over a cliff. You can go with him or jump.” I jumped.
I bring this up because when Thomas said to Kathryn, “I will destroy you!” I saw my ex. I understood her attraction and I felt deeply saddened for her. Thomas Ravenel may be the death of Kathryn otherwise.
I bet he will be at the reunion and apologize knowing full well his words are hollow and meaningless.
He is too much of a liability to be there, no way to feel safe around him . Nope and nope he is scary unpredictable
I agree with Scottishwitch. He’ll send a self serving statement. I hope they refuse to read it.
It seems this post has sent Ashley into lockdown. Her social media accounts were public and now they have been locked down. I just wanted to send her condolences on being a one season, unpaid extra.
I think her accounts are on lockdown because of what she’s said to Kathryn. I blocked her on every SM platform we shared AND my phone! Anyone who gets Danni Baird upset like she was is despicable! I’m so glad KD has these women to support her AND the fans! She’s grown up so very much and I want her to be out from under his thumb.
Yes! Thomas treated her so poorly. I always thought that. Even when Kathryn was out of control I figured he was behind it in some way. To take a young girl like that and try to ruin her life is unconscionable. To say he would be better off if she was dead is sociopathic. If the shoe fits Thomas…..
Can I just say, if she was really not paid, THAT AMUSES THE FUCK OUT OF ME. Who films a TV show for months unpaid? An idiot that’s who. But honestly, as reality TV hungry as this bitch has been. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE ANYONE IS THAT STUPID. This is what entertainment lawyers are for! She can’t be this dumb.
I am quite sure I saw Thomas being interviewed by someone like Quinton last year, before filming started. He said Ashley would be appearing as’his ‘plus 1’ in ‘cameo’ scenes and would not be a paid cast member. I got the impression she was meant to boost his own image as an attractive male on the show. If he was not lying, the payment seems to be her apartment, opportunity to get her name out on the show, dresses, holidays to Disneyland, etc. But she is surely now trying to get him to cough up a lump sum for her since the exposure has obviously not turned out as well as expected for her – unless she can take advantage of his own fall in reputation to pressure him into marrying her.
Don’t forget the vacation to Daufuskie. LOL!
The trick thought Hilton Head is a mountain. She’s THAT dumb, TT.
I wish I could find the article that I read where she said she wasn’t getting paid but I haven’t found it yet. I don’t remember if she outright stated it or if it was just the impression I came away with but I felt she was saying that this season was like an audition for next season. If that’s true it would explain some of her over the top antics this season and some of her statements on SM recently about she was just acting.
My gawd, what if this woman really was doing and saying all that shit to get screen time and a contract. She has really screwed herself royally if that is the case.
She said it on The Morning Toast
Thank you NancyPants!
Her public Instagram isn’t locked. I just looked. (Her private IG is always locked and says she must know you to allow you to see it.) Look for her white swimsuit on her public IG. I was shocked!
OMG, she looks unhealthy. I don’t care for her at all but I hate all the nasty comments on her IG. I don’t know why people do that.
I checked this morning and the comments were turned back on but they were turned off last night and I had been reading some of the comments shortly before Tamara posted this so it was open then. After Tamara posted this I went back and it was locked down. The same thing with her Twitter account. It was public yesterday then went private and is now public again.
They might do it Kim Richards-rehab-style and have a separately filmed interview twith him alone (or with Ashley.)
I have a feeling Katherine will be pretty tight-lipped at the reunion. If she plays her cards right, she can get even more than 50-50 custody.
I could totally see something like that happening.
Me too.
KD is seriously on point these days. If she could keep her cool during that disgusting barrage of insults from that frizzy-hair flipping, gold digging, geriatric d-sucking jezebel, then she’s gonna be a level-headed winner at the reunion. Ashley is now doing Thomas’s dirty work for him, trying to goad KD into an altercation. Eyes on the prizes, KD-those sweet babies of yours!
Auntie Velvet
you hit the “alleged” nail on the head – Andy enjoys milking his cash cows – he might even do the one on one in South Carolina – remember when he did the one on one with Luann – he went to the “hamptons”?
I can see that happening, but there’s a huge difference between shoplifting at target and going to rehab vs. forcible rape.
And he’s not going to rehab, because he doesn’t think he has a drinking problem. He should be there now just to get ahead of the issues, like Luann did. He probably doesn’t think he has any abuse (alcohol, drugs, sexual assault, physical, verbal or emotional) problems. I hope that “good ole boys” crap doesn’t happen again.
Thomas thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and he is an attention whore. I vote on yes he will be there. He will say the wrong thing but not realize it.
If he isn’t there, Ashley may not be there. That would be the most boring reunion ever. What would they rehash.
Thomas can’t threaten most of them I think. The girls won’t care. He doesn’t even have connections to hurt Whitney. I doubt that he would have much impact on Shep either. Cameran has to consider keeping her husband’s character pristine so she may be hesitant to jump into the mess. Craig will do as told, probably by Pat, Whitney or Naomi
No way in hell will he show up. These allegations are far too serious for him to be making a fool of himself on a reunion show.
I wish he would explain himself but I can’t imagine he will.
Oh and he doesn’t seen the money so if he’s fired, why even go.
I don’t think he needed the money when he was distributing cocaine either. He isn’t motivated by the same things normal people are.
I read somewhere that he did season 1 to pay off his taxes. Maybe he’s not as rich as we think?
He does seem to spend a lot of money (hired help at the house, nannies, substances, horses and polo, polo girl shopping) that one doesn’t spend if they’re cash-strapped though.
He’s very rich Naomi. Double digit millionaire rich.
Um, I just looked it up and it said he was worth 2 million. That’s NOT very rich imo.
(I mean, it’s 2 million more than I have!) 2 mill these days isn’t much at all.
But I only checked one site.
Okay…Checked another and it also says 2 mill, same as Whitney.
Says Shep is only worth 200k! Same as Craig!
600K for Kathryn
Landon ~ 3 Million~ WTF!!!!
Chelsea ~ 1.2 mill!
Patricia ~ 20 mill
Well that was interesting!
It’s not interesting at all. It’s made up bullshit.
Drama is one thing. Abusing women and raping women and being blatantly obvious about the police & judges allowing you to get away with it is toooooo much. I highly doubt Bravo or Haymaker are gonna walk that legal tightrope over T-Rav and the plus 1. Her hair is falling out and she has skin on bones allegedly mixing pills and booze and amphetamines. Andy may beef up security for the reunion and side show “the bearded lady” so to speak but she is a legal nightmare waiting to happen. They will cut ties with both. But to end the season with higher ratings they will probably roll out the circus side show. Hope they at least put her in a cage for everyones safety…
Do you think they’ll say they fired him or something more like in light of allegations we’ve mutually decided that this was his last season? I really hope they don’t let him off the hook with some bs statement like that.
Maybe the statement will be “he is incarcerated due to multiple rape allegations and could not attend”!
One does not get incarcerated based on multiple allegations. One gets incarcerated on convictions. Sadly rape cases are often she said, he said and very difficult to prove.
Which is why Kathryn will have to be VERY careful and neutral at the reunion. So I don’t want ANYONE bashing her for “knowing he was like this” or not standing up for the accusers.
She’s got those babies to worry about.
A) He is fired
B) No telling how Bravo will spin this
This is huge news! I almost can’t believe it but it sure is the right thing to do Bravo!
I think Thomas is arrogant enough to think he should be at the reunion. I suspect any lawyer would try to shut it down, not let him appear but it’s his dime paying the lawyers. I’m completely up in the air about him appearing. Bravo may make the decision for him?
I do think Ashley will be there. After what I saw last night? She appeared to think she was completely right in all her actions. I’m seeing her wanting to defend herself. (And keep herself on tv.)
Doubt the bigwigs will let him appear even if he wants to considering filming the reunion is weeks away. Too much of a liability. Andy will try to push to get Ashley on. Those poor little kids.
My source said it was unclear if he would be on the reunion or not. It is unclear if that is his choice or not,
But from a legal standpoint I would think Thomas would have the option. And because charges may be filed in the meantime,….it remains up in the air, So even my source has no clue if Thomas will be there or not.
Seems like the more interesting question is will Ashley show? I’d love to see that!! And she’s so thirsty she would want to come!! So she can be there for her “beloved” and speak for him because if he shows I would be VERY surprised. Love to see it but surely even he can see that would be a bad move. But you never know what a narcissist may do. Hmmm. How many felons does Bravo have? Like seriously, I’m asking!!
She said she had lost weight from stress. Now, it’s like she’s starting to like how she looks and is even giving weight loss tips. As much as I have come to detest her, I hope she gets the help she needs too.
She is a basket case. She has a severe eating disorder and is giving weight loss tips.
Of course they will bring her to the reunion. Kathryn is like the Kenya of Southern Charm, Andy will bring on anyone to disrespect her.
I agree with Auntie Velvet. I’m crossing my fingers Andy doesn’t trick Kathryn into saying a thing about TRav. She should be getting primary custody at least with the dignity she’s shown lately, and full custody if he goes to prison, AGAIN.
AND the money she should be receiving to raise their kids. My husband is from Rock Hill, SC and he says that stands for State of Confusion!
After seeing the edit and bad behavior on this weeks episode, I would hope TRav’s in a deep hole somewhere hiding.
I would imagine by now his daddy’s jerked a knot in his ass and taken him to the woodshed.
One can only hope!
Never going to happen. Thomas thinks he is above the law because his family has bought off the local court system.
It was VERY brave of Dawn to come forward. But we need everyone else to come forward too.
Because of exactly that, I predict he will be there. Even if his “advisors” ( translation: lawyers) tell him not to go. Thomas (thinks he) knows better, can somehow spin the narrative, and will just be itching to put in an appearance. I’m sure in his mind, he can fix all those pesky rumors and allegations if he can just get some camera time to explain things.
And if for some reason they ARE able to persuade him not to go? Look for a taped piece, “Sorry Ah wasn’t able to join y’all but Ah have something tuh say! ”
He will do whatever he can to convince any/everyone that there’s just been a “misunderstanding.”
I like this video taped statement idea. He can say what he wants and won’t have to sit through the responses.
As a reminder Andy Cohen has absolutely nothing to do with this show, or Vanderpump Rules. He’s just a reunion host. He also has very little input with the Housewives shows these days. Sure he’s a “producer” of the housewives, but not a particularly important one.
Interestingly, Thomas isn’t in any of the Southern Charm Aftershow clips. I would imagine they filmed some with him but have chosen not to show them. Of course the clips of Ashley’s reaction to the show are being shown. She is ridiculous and delusional.
I noticed that too, except he was in 1 with JD after the first episode the breakup bunch. They have pictures somewhere, maybe Instagram of him with Ashley kissing her set up. Maybe they took it down? (I haven’t looked yet)
Kim, you are right! I just watched it again but I guess the reason I forgot that Thomas was part of that interview with JD was because he never said a single word!!
I did notice he isn’t in any other ones..he probably got edited out.
His Daddy is EXACTLY the same. Apple, Tree,
These guys will get what’s coming to them. The seal is cracked.
From your lips to God’s ears.
Hmm, maybe, won’t bet any money on more than Thomas not being on next year.
Yep..racist..bigot..misogynistic..doesn’t get it
I want Ashley to come on and treat everyone like she did last night. That’s obviously how she feels. Then, let her defend her truth ? as they take her to the mat the way they did Kim ZB on Atlanta.
She isnt locked now. She has 2 IG, one is private.
Statements like these are why lawyers would cringe at her going to the reunion
* ashleyhjacobsUh-oh! You know what tonight is!? #SouthernCharm ✨ This quote really spoke to my heart and I wanted to share it with you all- “It’s easy to judge. It’s more difficult to understand. Understanding requires compassion, patience, and a willingness to believe that good hearts sometimes choose poor methods. Through judging we separate, through understanding, we grow.”♥️ At the end of the day we’re all human beings… thank you SO much for your love & support X
Who is she talking about? Is she sorry for what she said or did this press on her heart because of Thomas. The accusations or the fact that in October she will be homeless in Charleston?
Like she didn’t judge Kathryn? I HATE when people try to use biblical or spiritual quotes to reinforce their actions.
My point is that she is a loose cannon reacting to everything. Guilt loosens her lips and will sink Thomas’ ship. she did it last night. She got angry and started telling all that she heard.
I agree with you Muffintop! If Thomas’ lawyer were worrh anything, he would not only gag Thomas but wouls also muzzle Ashley, take away ALL their electronic devices and shut down all their social media!
Can’t help but wonder where Thomas’ lackeys are? (Landon and JD) Are there no comments from his peanut gallery?
The fake piety was nauseating from the start with Ashley.
Melania trump is her idol. Enough said
She turn off commenting on her IG account last night and her Twitter was private but they are back to normal this morning. I don’t know who those quotes are supposed to be about. She must just like the sound of the words because she doesn’t live by them.
Supposed to be about herself. She doesn’t want people judging her. She’s too self-centered to see the irony.
This is the first time I have ever commented on here, I’m usually just a reader. I have watched this show since the very first episode. I am glad he won’t be coming back. I hate seeing how he treated Katherine and how slimy he is. This season has definitely shown his true colors. Good riddance to him, now maybe Katherine will finally get her sweet babies back.
You should comment more often! You are well-spoken and type in full sentences. You are our people! lol.
That is a huge compliment to someone like myself who always just lurks and reads because I hate drama and social interaction. I love your site and pretty much align with you spot on. Maybe I will comment sometime in the future if I get the courage up again. Lol.
I’m a straight shooter/awful person if I didn’t think you were great I would have called you some sort of awful name,
Either that, or i just like people who type in full sentences and say what they mean. I hope you continue to comment, Samantha. We may be a bit intimidating, but it is people who are unable to string a full sentence together who annoy us. I can already tell you are one of us.
In this current climate, I can’t imagine that he hasn’t already been fired, and with Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, and all the rest, that he would be “allowed” tv time, on a network, no matter what. The networks are “acting swiftly” (for them) and I realize he is a complete TOOL on reality TV, (as opposed to a respected journalist) but it reflects on the network. The fact that he has connections, and the great state of SC has turned a blind eye for a long time to a lot of his behavior, I don’t think it can now- he will be charged with something.
If we hear anything from him, it will be in a controlled interview (ala Kim Richards) or a statement. There is no way he could be a reunion participant. Alas, I have been in the minority/wrong before…
Oh I have already heard that NBCu is shaking in their boots after Lauer and Rose. THE DO NOT WANT THIS TO BE A THING.
But it is.
Does the gag order on the cast apply to Pat? She is being pretty outspoken on Twitter. Careful with her words – but she has picked her side.
It was a past season or more but does Pat still dislike Kathryn?
I am just so pleased Thomas and Ashley will be off the show. In season 1 Thomas did have a thin veneer of what could have been called charm. He also looked a whole lot more presentable than now. Another 5 years of debauchery have him looking decidedly ‘over the hill’ as a romantic interest on the show. The display of Ashley determinedly pursuing him for his money was really crass.
Time for Bravo to find a replacement about 10-15 years younger than Thomas – an established career guy in any field, but tall and fit and able to laugh a bit and say no to substance abuse.
I thought the same thing….these guys look like shit.
Shep has fallen the farthest! He is like a doughy, sleepy has-been, but he’s still so young!! Lifestyle trumps genetics. Craig most likely eats the best since he enjoys cooking.
Not sure if any of those guys actually work out regularly. Craig is naturally slender. We saw Craig and Austen jogging. A while ago we saw Shep playing basketball (and getting winded!!)
Shep, Austen and Thomas are shown drinking quite a bit. Even in the last episode after dinner Shep asked who wanted to go to his friend’s bar with him. It may just have been to see his old crowd since he grew up in the area, but Chelsey did also and she wasn’t interested in going out so late. She was going to bed.
Shep goes out to a bar for late-night drinking while Chelsey goes to bed for a good deep sleep. Guess who is going to look better in the morning?
Speaking of Chelsey and working out, Chelsey’s room mate is a personal trainer. If all of the cast has personal trainer roomies, there would be a lot of “positive pressure” to work out. Your roomie is regularly mentioning workouts, squats, clients. It would tend to nudge you to working out.
My guess is that there is fresh powder and skiing in a good workout which is why Crazy is so skinny. Thomas has lost it. He is stumbling in scenes! I think they will both be there against atty advice.
Yah! For Bravo making this decision!! Ashley and Thomas must go, not even given the chance to appear on the reunion. He’s keeping her, because he can’t go sleeping around now, because he would be afraid to taint his case at this time. If only the higher power in law, hand those kids, (Kathryn so deserves) immediately if only it’s a temporary judgement! If the shoe was on the other foot, as soon as this broke, Kathryn would have had those kids snatched immediately I’m sure. It’s amazing what money does or power. Go away Ashley, back to CA for your best interest! Or u will be brought in this mess! Please don’t get pregnant, as u said, I don’t want to raise a baby by yourself. And u were very rude to Kathryn, words are never forgotten! Kathryn has done so well! Very proud of u Kathryn, karma is coming I believe!
That’s a really good question, Tamara. I just watched the episode online and the one thing that stood out among all the Thomas/Ashley drama was when he was on the ferry screaming at Chelsea and he said:
Kathryn doesn’t have the power!
And so we see his trigger. Good ole boy is free and easy till his power trip needs energizing. If he goes on the show will the other castmates stifle?
If he doesn’t will that loosen them up? I wish they would feel more free to speak openly about his antics. I’m certain they all know exactly what he’s about. South Carolina needs it’s own #MeToo moment. But I’m not hopeful the ladies will step up.
Kathryn has her children’s welfare as first priority. They need to be back with her.
The other ladies have to live in that town. I wonder what Whitney’s position will be? Not that I have much faith in him. Pat might have enough “power” to speak but I’m not convinced she cares enough about that issue. I think her animosity towards Thomas remains personal. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
The truth is that production wanted the group trip and maybe arranged the group trip. In order not to break the 4th wall, we all pretend to believe that it is a Shep+Chelsea sponsored trip.
If that pretend premise was true, then yes, Chelsea would have a say in who stayed in the house.
Thomas was bringing her back to reality, that she actually was not in control of whom she invited. Of course! If Chelsea had a trip to a rental house off-season, she would have invited co-workers and real friends, not randoms like Austen or Craig.
Whitney probably had the actual power and we saw him come talk to Thomas, after which Thomas apologized to Chelsea.
I think they will interview him separately. One on one with Andy.
Any good attorney will tell Thomas to stay off of TV and social media and keep his mouth shut.
Shaking my head, Thomas blew the best gig he will ever have. Hope his two children do not suffer from the loss of income.
@BlueSuede: Thomas comes from old family money like Shep does. His Bravo salary is a drop in the bucket and won’t be a big loss money wise. The loss of tv time and “fame” on a Bravo scale, however will be a huge loss for his ego.
I just Googled it and he is NOT that rich!
Believe it or not, the thing I read said Landon has more money than him!
So are they not editing him out of this season then? Seems like it would be hard to do since his storyline with Kathryn and Ashley is the biggest. He’s got a ton of money he doesn’t need the show anyway. I wonder if Ashley will dump him now.
” I wonder if Ashley will dump him now.”
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Yeah, I thought the editing him out thing seemed impossible when they initially talked about it. I looks like they are going to leave him in, in all his drunken glory.
I don’t believe he has a ton of money anymore. It’s real easy to blow through a “fortune” when you make very bad decisions. I think we will soon find out that it is now a façade. For example, that kid-friendly house on Daniel Island…I believe it is a rental. And Daniel Academy costs about $1,000 per month per child.
But he also owns a plantation and horses. When the show first started he talked about having two houses. The one in town was historic and full of antiques, Turkish rugs, silver, art.
I think.part of his construction business is flipping houses. In the second season, Kathrulyn says they lived in several houses while she was pregnant with Kenzie. He has said homes are an investment. And he’s been filmed asking his father for money to renovate, I think his father must be CFO and makes the money decisions in that company. The plantation and horses are Thomas’s, but the other homes we see him in are where he lives while they are on the market after he renovates them.
My money is on him showing up. Anyone who has been in politics has an ego as big as the great outdoors and in his mind, he has done nothing wrong and thinks the victims should send thank you notes.
My money is also on him pulling a NY Jason or OC Simon and refusing to allow Kenzie and Saint to film in a twisted attempt to eff it up for Kathryn since his tush got kicked to the curb.
This also would explain a sudden huge weight loss for Ashley. No Thomas on the show means that she will be skulking back to Cali with no ring and no mans and no show.
Or Ashley shows up at reunion pregnant hoping that will keep him out of prison.
the jig is up for thomas w/the ‘me too’ movement!!! hope he loses custody entirely and a trust is set up to care for those beautiful children. i would be very worried about ashley being around anywhere near the kids considering her hatred/vitriol for their mom which has to trickle down. so proud of kd and her keeping it together under unbelievable circumstances. she has really done a 180. trav on the other hand is always drunk on tv and who knows what else!!!! his rage at chelsea really showed his true colors and what level he can get to. sure there are many more he’s threatened or worse in his past then who’s already come forward. he’s been able to get away with this behavior his whole life due to $$ power and position. like to see him w/supervised visits if he’s not in jail. anyone notice how he always offers kd a drink??
I think he will be at the reunion because he will want to defend himself and try to sway public opinion in his favor. I do not see how he will be able to do that, but in his mind, I bet he thinks he ca. However, if charges are actually filed against him, there’s no way his lawyers will allow him on the show. I honestly cannot get out of my mind, the picture of him in the background leering lecherously at Katherine and Ashley during this last episode. I am seriously thinking about sitting out the rest of the season until he’s off the show.
First time commenting- long time reader!! I’m am glad that action has been taken against Thomas- his ghosts are certainly coming back to haunt him- hopefully the legal system will not ignore all the allegations that have come to light. Ashley- go home. Kathryn- keep going forward and rise above it. I understand her asking for 50/50 custody- she needs to get used to having the kids around all the time- it can be very stressful- hopefully the courts will require Thomas to provide some help for her. It will be interesting to see how this show moves forward.
Kathryn has really matured and it shows this season.
Beautiful German Shepherd, btw!
Hello TT Family,
Ashley : If this chic shows up at the union, they should all cold shoulder her ass as she lies while contrasting footage rolls.
Ms. Katherine : Don’t say 1 word.
Just give pity looks/exaggerated sighs while she spews her venom. This will drive her batsh#t crazy. Thanks girl! It will be epic.
I’ve got my snacks n drank menu planned.
He certainly won’t be missed by me. His storyline is awkward, uncomfortable and even painful at times. He’s unpleasant to look at, physically, and his erratic behavior is escalating.
He, to me, appears to have substance and rage issues and offers nothing of value to the entertainment of the show. The younger, better looking and better behaved crew will step up and replace him.
I admit, Thomas was engaging and entertaining the first 2 seasons. I enjoyed seeing his properties and tolerated his behavior. Now he’s gross and dangerous.
If Thomas leaves the show, I wonder what that will do to Kathryn’s place on the show? I’m not sure what storyline she has without Thomas or her children. As much as I’d like to see Ashley disappear in a putrid cloud of black smoke, I would miss the Thomas/Kathryn back and forth. I think that would be hard for Bravo to replace.
We can have Katherine’s new life with her friends as she navigates the waters of single parenthood, work at Gwynnw’s and possibly the dating game along with Danni & Chelsea. I think she is showing remarkable character under pressure and think she is a rather remarkable woman! Bravo has shows about many lesser females.
Agree 100%. She doesn’t need them to make her interesting!
If TR isn’t charged and convicted, I doubt he will lose all custody. He might be told to go to anger management, AA, etc. But it takes a lot (or perhaps in Kathryn’s case TR’s clout) to lose custody. JMHO
I am wondering if Ashley has succeeded in making it her and Thomas against the world at this point. He has gotten such bad press and potential problems, her doting on him, willingness to put up with his crap, and telling him how wonderful he is, may be successfully feeding his ego enough that he wants her with him.
He has tremendous pride and maybe he can’t admit she is not a good person at this point. I think pride is what made him stick up for her on HHI. “His” GF won’t be treated that way or asked to leave.
I have no doubt that Thomas will appear. I know Ashley probably cant wait to play a victim role if shes allowed on the reunion. I do think Thomas wont say much about the allegations, if anything, under the guise of my attorneys have told me not to comment which will probably enrage Andy. I am thrilled he wont be back. I see how well Katherine appears to be doing now that she is sort of away from Thomas. I hope the same will go for Ashley. IMO, she is wasting away and losing her grip on reality.
When Ravenel and Ashley were sitting together at the breakfast table, and Shep came over to talk to them, Ravenel had the wierdest slow-motion, open-mouth, frozen-laugh, teeth-showing crazy-mask on his face for most of the time. As if he was frozen mid-guffaw, but there was no sound coming out of him. He had that same insane mask-looking frozen-laugh expression alot during that episode. It kinda looked like a very elderly patient in a nursing home who was heavily sedated. What causes that type of expression? I was trying to figure it out. I thought alcohol made people hyper. Is that type of slow-motion behavior caused by sedation-type drugs?
I noticed that silent guffaw also. It was like his batteries suddenly went dead. Very strange.
It was like he had been heavily sedated that morning, to stop his aggressive behavior from the night before.
Like a hospice patient.
Like a hungover hospice patient.
I’m a first time poster but longtime reader.
Thomas is manipulative and calculating. His nasty statements to Kathryn at the reunion foreshadowed what he hoped would happen this season…bring Kathryn down. Ashley was his secret weapon or so he thought. When I first saw her I thought she was pretty. As soon as she opened her mouth, I will never look at her the same. He put expensive clothes on her but that can’t disguise the ugly.
Thomas knew full well Ashley was fired up to confront Kathryn in Hilton Head. What he didn’t count on was how that would backfire. Instead of bringing Kathryn down she got to shine. He and Ashley imploded in one fell swoop. They deserve everything that comes their way now. I’m. Here. For. It.
It was funny listening to Ashley use the wrestling with a pig analogy because she is the pig. You also can put lipstick and Chanel on a pig, but it’s still a pig!
Oh yes, Ashley was definitely the pig in her scenario. (I hate to insult pigs like that tho). She’s so clueless, I guess she thinks the viewers would fall for that line, even after we saw her attack on Katherine. I wonder if she knows how desperate she is appearing with her needy comments about babies & wanting a proposal. Or wanting Trav to feed her (gag me). Oh, oops, maybe that was because she doesn’t know how to eat crab out of a shell. What an idiot! I find it difficult to believe she’s a hospice nurse! In my experience, they are kind and compassionate. Two characteristics that I DO NOT SEE in Ashley.
Ashley & Trav deserve each other. She is ugly, inside & out, and SO jealous of Katherine. Have you noticed how puffy & shit-faced Trav looks in all his scenes this season? Maybe he has to be drunk to tolerate his rent-a-ho.
And, please, don’t send her back to cali (as she calls our state :-() We don’t want her here!
I feel as if he is trying to get Katherine to fail by parading Ashley in front of her, with all the stuff she wanted. The clothes, gifts, feeding her. The intimate family stuff. It did for sure backfire on him, and I’m personally proud of Katherine’s growth.
I am a long time lurker here. I enjoy the site, reading the blogs and the commenters. I like the balanced perspectives and general consensus on this site as they are congruent with my own. To add a bit of humor, I do wonder if they were both indeed let go and the free rent ends, if she has a “Plan B”. ?
Oh Thomas has been putting Plan B in her eggs every morning. LOL.
Yes he is please lithium with it.?
I wonder if any of the footage from this season can be used in court showing the violations of the agreement between Thomas and Kathryn.
In previous situations like this, the judges rules the show footage as inadmissible. Particularly in this case because Thomas and Ashley were not sleeping together in the house like the show tries to make it appear.
Ok- that makes sense. I’m sure the court would be worried that the footage is edited also.
Just a head’s up. For some reason, WordPress sends all the comments by people with an apostrophe in their comments to moderation. It’s been this way for months and I can’t figure out how to fix it. So, sorry for the delays in your comments. I try to check in often throughout the day, and I don’t do mornings. lol. But that is why you are in moderation.
Thanks so much for letting me know- I took out the apostrophe- hope it helps!
Guess it did not.
It should stop now that I have approved the “new” name.
I was wondering about this too! I think any edited footage would be automatically out. But I have been mulling over whether they could use unedited video of Kathryn to her benefit? It’s been a long time since I studied anything about evidence rules, but if the material is deemed reliable and is relevant to proving her mental state or state of recovery, I could imagine it getting in for that purpose. Vice versa, for footage of Thomas and what that might try to demonstrate. Of course it’s a long jump from there to anything that might affect their custody arrangement. Again, I defer to those with more experience on this, but it’s an interesting question so if anyone has a better answer I’d love to hear it!
I really love this site, and seldom feel the need to contribute as so many of you express similar feelings/observations.
I think you may be on to something regarding the impotence, Tamara. That could also account for some of the rage.
If he’s indeed guilty of forcing himself upon women, that’s a power and control issue. He’s been using that terminology a lot lately.
How great would it be if Thomas was replaced with a wonderful man and he and Katherine hit it off?
That would be super!
Some nice guy with a Southern name. It would be awesome!
Even better would be Thomas watching from jail!
I agree with Gretchen and co. Thomas is too ignorant and arrogant to stay away. He’s never failed to take the rope given to hang himself. Sadly, people bring him back to life. No one has had more chances.
Amy’s description of Thomas was perfect – “a serious case of old school, misogynistic, good old boy syndrome”. When you listen to his father speaking, you can understand where Thomas got his attitude, and it was probably handed down through the generations. People like that, a hundred years and more ago (or even less), were used to being able to do and get away with pretty much anything they wanted. Their cronies, who were of an identical mindset, were the judges, attorneys, lawmakers, wealthy landowners, movers and shakers of their time. They covered for each, in fact, they usually saw nothing wrong with whatever any of them did, whether it was in business or in the way they treated the huddled masses whom they viewed as being far beneath them. When you grow up with such a vast air of superiority, and knowing that you are pretty much protected by your peers, your behavior can know no bounds. It must have been a huge blow to Thomas when he was convicted of the drug charges and his family/friends were powerless to get him off. It would take a brain transplant for him to change his ways – they’ve been too deeply ingrained in him since birth, and even though that sense of invincibility is losing its power a little in modern times, it’s still very much a factor in the way Thomas acts and thinks.
The funny thing is how he sits back and lets Ashley emasculate him in front of his friends. Even Craig and Shep have noticed how rudely and dismissively Ashley talks about him. I would have expected that to infuriate him, but he just sits there with a goofy look on his face. Very strange.
Well, even though modern thinking is catching up to Thomas and the way of life to which he’s been accustomed, changes are coming. I just hope this whole brouhaha doesn’t get swept under the carpet – rape and assault charges are so difficult to prosecute without physical evidence and witnesses. It’s also a pity that footage of Thomas can’t be used against him; there’s so much showing his outbursts of temper.
I can’t wait to see the reunion and to see how this whole “scandal” plays out. It’s going to be well worth tuning in for.
Even his ride or die Whitney cannot save Thomas this time. Whitney has a producer credit on the show and even over the past couple of episodes, Whitney was trying to get Thomas to rein in Fifty Shades of Crazy, to no avail. Now with all of the other allegations coming to light, Whitney is too smart to let one rat sink the whole ship.
I used to not be a fan of his at all, but this year seeing how he interacts with Thomas and Shep is interesting. It is almost as if he has told those two Peter Pans to grow up…they just refuse to listen.
You’re absolutely right – Whitney is a completely different person this season. It’s as though he gave up on being “one of the guys” , which he never really was, as least in terms of personality. Really like the new and improved version – especially when he tries to talk reason to Thomas.
As I have not seen the newest episode yet, I can only say from what we’ve heard, goodbye Thomas. Do I think he’ll show up for reunion? I do. When has he ever listened to advice from anyone with half a brain? He’s too used to winning and wayyy too arrogant. I hate to see this show go but if that is in the cards so be it.
I am realitively new to commenting about the show, but have been a fan since the beginning. This is my first time commenting on one of Tamara’s posts.
A couple of week’s ago, I was willing to give Ashley a chance. I even sent some unbiased tweets her way. However, last week’s episode didn’t sit well. It had been bothering me. I was still willing to give her a chance, until this week’s episode. I thought sure the siuation would de-escalate and she would apologize. When that didn’t happen, I chose to kick her off my list of followers. I may not know her personally, but I refuse to condone her behavior. The more I read and watch, the more I am convinced it was the right decision.
Couple things: I think Thomas will decide to show at the reunion, via some chicken shit pre-recorded video. That way he can have his say and not have to give a rebuttle. On the flip-side, Ashley will be at the reunion. I do not think she would miss it for all the LV luggage and diamond rings in the world!
I have a theory or theories…I am thinking maybe Thomas and Ashley aren’t still together, but they are acting like they still are for the sake of the show? If they are still together, I think Thomas will dump her right after the reunion, when there are no more cameras around. Just random thoughts!
Really good – you need to keep commenting.
Thanks!!! I love reading everyone’s opinions and perspectives!
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He will show, he wont let anyone take away his “power”, and He has a major narcissist.
I wouldn’t be surprised if JD had some accusations coming his way.
There is always Love After Lockup for Rav & Ashley
I keep remembering several interviews I saw online during the early days of Southern Charm where Ravenel tried to make it sound like he had personally discovered Kathryn Dennis and hired her for the show. He talked about how impressive she was, and said something like this: “I told Whitney, We need to get this girl under contract!” I watched him say that in several interviews, and at least once when Whitney was sitting beside him. It struck me because I thought, wait, he’s trying to act like he’s one of the producers.
Now I think he probably used this as a pickup line for nearly every female he came into contact with since the show started. Katherine, Luzanne, Ashley, and many others, I’ll bet. “Hey, you’re cool, I can put you on the show”, “I can make you a star”, “You wanna be on the show?”, etc. And Ashley still believes it. And he does, too. Anyway that’s my theory. What a pig.
I think you’re 100% right,. Years back didn’t he get busted saying that to some random woman he was trying to bed??
I wouldn’t put it past TR to use that line on women but I listened to an interview with Kathryn and she was a page or an intern in some political office and someone there recommended that she contact Whitney about a show he was doing, which she did. Also, he met Luzanne through Patricia so I would think if Luzanne wanted to be on the show, Patricia would be her in.
Luzanne made it clear to Thomas that she had no interest in being on the show. He didn’t take it well.
One of my takeaways from the episode was that I enjoyed the show much more when Thomas was sidelined with Ashley (ie. not around). I think we saw that this group, without those two, can carry the show just fine. I also imagine that Bravo has already noticed this, and in taking him off they’re covering their liabilities while not really sacrificing anything.
Been gone a while due to illness but I got to say Bravo has to fire him. I think KD should begin her political career and step on TR’s back to get there! Just watched the interview TR did with Quinton and how creepy is it to hear the white corrupt politician to invite the black guy to his plantation for a polo match? I am the only one utterly creeped out by that?
Listening to Thomas rattle on about the civil war and politics is pretty horrifying. this man does not need to be in public office on any level.
Time for a jail sentence for Thomas and a change of custody for those poor kids!
Reposting this comment here, because someone sent me a link to reddit, a site that I had to contact their legal department over once already and may again. There are a few people that constantly post libelous information there. It may be time contact their legal department again.
Here’s what I said.
I was also hoping that someone might point out that sites saying Kenya was fired over some missed ALL CAST meeting were misinformed. Everyone is still getting their jollies out before filming begins,
Technically filming starts on the 18th but real filming will not start until Don’t Be Tardy wraps on July 1. Much of the crew works both shows…
So all this BS about Kenya being fired after receiving a pickup letter but before filming starts is BS.
But what do I know? I heard today that some people on Reddit are saying I don’t have any sources an just make it all up. Then other people pick it up. ROFLMAO. I wonder what site is behind that?
Bend About The Knee?
I also heard I am a horrible person for wishing cancer on that awful Marchese woman who married the guy who became rich for selling snake oil to cancer patients and then blowing the whistle on the company he worked for that sold the snake oil. These are probably the same people who wanted to hang Vicki and Brooks for pushing juice drinks. That’s a far cry from selling worthless very expensive drugs to people with cancer. So I’d like to double down on both of them getting cancer and having some company sell them worthless cures, for the record.
http://tamaratattles.com/2014/07/15/amber-marcheses-husband-has-a-shady-past/
If ANYONE DESERVES CANCER it is people who profited from selling cancer medications they knew were worthless to cancer patients. Read the whole NYT article it is horrific what Jim did. I truly want them both to get cancer and have to take the shit he was shilling to “cure” it.
I get the feeling the chick whose comments I read is also from NJ. There are a lot of shit people in NJ… but that is a whole nuther talk show.
Sorry to dump this here but someone just sent me some shit posts by a crazy person on reddit. I’m sure she will announce to the group she was wrong AGAIN when I am right AGAIN. In the meantime, as Ashley says, in this case all press is good press, because I was right again.
& the crowd goes wild. Score ! Our birthday is in less than 20 days. Great post !
All the other members of the Ravenel family are breathing a sigh of relief. Maybe now Thomas won’t shame their family by the way he acts. . . . just maybe.