Y’all, is it really time to go back to Hilton Head already? I still haven’t recovered from the Ashley screeching from last week. Really don’t believe the story that Thomas and Ashley are giving that Ashley is not getting paid. Those two are proven liars. If she’s not she is an idiot because unfortunately she is driving the storyline so far this season. Perhaps she was told this season is a tryout for next season if she pushes the drama? She really needs better legal representation if that is the case. At any rate, tonight’s episode is supersized so that we can endure an extra fifteen minutes of Ashley’s screed.
It’s been a long hard year of sobriety for Kathryn. I have to hand it to her. Thomas has sent her for endless drug tests sometimes back to back. Her fair complexion lends to terrible bruising. Yet, she has completed every bit of the detailed parenting plan. It’s finally time for her to return to court for the preplanned hearing upon completion of the five-year plan. I admit, I didn’t have a lot of faith in her, but she proved me and other skeptics wrong.
We start with a healthy looking Ashley, as opposed to what she is now, having the nerve to tell Kathryn that she sees her kids more than she does. Then she doubles down and says she knows the real situation with Kathryn. The other girls try to get her to stay in her lane, but she starts talking about how the kids are after they come back from a weekend with Kathryn. Ashley says what is even scarier is that Kathryn is going to spend more time with “them.” In this case, “them” refers to the two children she gave birth to. This little whore would have been socked in the mouth by me if I were sitting there and I don’t even know these people. I’m amazed that Chelsea hasn’t belted her because she is sitting right next to the feckless cunt. Ha. SWIDT? When drunk Thomas stumbles over to the table, Whitney and Danni both ask him to “intervene” and “shut her up.” Yet the stupid bitch continues to talk about reports she gets from “the nanny.” First of all, the nanny has been told she is not to discuss the children with others. Secondly, she implies it is the one that “Kathryn got fired.” In actuality, all Thomas did was give the nanny a new job at the plantation and he hired one of her friends as the new nanny which is why he did not include Kathryn on the decision about the new nanny as the parenting plan requires. It seems that Kathryn has followed the plan to the letter and Thomas just does whatever the fuck he wants to. He does nothing about Ashley.
Ashley goes on and on about how when Saint had his adenoids taken out Kathryn didn’t come to the hospital. This ignorant bitch doesn’t seem to know that Thomas didn’t even tell Kathryn about the surgery and would not let her at the hospital because it was not her day. Finally, Danni convinces Thomas to get his whore away from them. Mostly because Danni was about two words from having her swallowing her own buck teeth. Whitney is very supportive of Kathryn. Chelsea is very upset.
Ashley is legit insane. She tells drunk Thomas that she was her nice sweet self to Kathryn and she kept on kissing her ass and now she is done. It’s like the fucking twilight zone with this one. The crazy is STRONG. She is raging at Thomas and at one point says, “How bad of a mother do you have to be to have both of your children taken from you and given to a convicted felon?” How hard up does an aged-out polo girl have to be to go sleep with one on national TV? She is back at the bar asking Thomas to propose. Damn this thirsty bitch begs for a proposal every damn episode. Who does this? What is wrong with her? Does she have daddy issues or something?
Things start to settle down as the begin to dread the Ferry Ride back to Hilton Head, and Austen tells Chelsea that he is dating Victoria. Chelsea is sort of fine with it. She gets a bit misty. She loves Austen as a friend and he feels the same way.
Shep goes to the bar and tries to maintain some peace with Ashley and Thomas, but Ashley thinks she knows it all and is somehow entitled to treat the mother of her sugar daddy’s children like shit because she is on dick sucking duty at the moment. Shep of all people has seen this with Thomas many times. She starts ranting at Shep about how Kathryn is not a good mom and she doesn’t care about “these kids.” Thomas finally tells her to cool it.
On the ferry, Chelsea says it’s not fair to Kathryn to have to be in the house with Ashley. She whines to Thomas who is drunk off his ass and he starts shouting at Chelsea about how she has no say so about who stays in the house. Actually, Chelsea is from Hilton Head and is hosting the entire weekend, so yes, she does you ignorant misogynist fool. Then he ends with shut the fuck up. Ashley moves over next to Thomas and starts making out with him. I can just imagine how he must smell. He can barely keep his head propped up and she is all, “It’s me and you against the world.” Do you think she has any self-awareness at all when she watches this shit? It’s like two of the worst people in the world drunkenly trying to make out. Whitney tries to be the Thomas whisperer. Thomas apologizes to Chelsea. I keep thinking about Luzanne and Dawn and the other victim of Thomas’ who came forward and hope they are not watching this episode. It would be unbearable.
Back at the house, Austen goes with Shep to Shep’s friend’s bar. Kathryn and Danni sit outside on the deck and of course Thomas flocks right to her. Back in the house, drunkass Ashley has cornered Chelsea and is ranting again. Chelsea is trying to defuse the situation; but, Ashley keeps on spewing venom.
The next morning, the four girls talk about the previous night. Chelsea says there is no coming back for Ashley after her tirade. Kathryn says it’s scary for her to think that those are the two people with her children. Ashley tells Thomas she doesn’t remember everything. He tells her to not say mean things for the rest of their time there.
Craig and Austen made breakfast for everyone. Ashley acts like nothing has happened and is playing some sort of polite game with everyone. As Kathryn said, “Is this girl not embarrassed?” Hell I am embarrassed when I wake up the next day after watching American Idol with Banjo and singing along. He seems to really like that though. It’s a good thing I don’t have an Alexa because that bitch would probably blackmail the shit out of me. I wonder about people who do stupid things while drunk and don’t have any shame at all the next day.
One group is going crabbing and one group is going fishing and Thomas and Ashley are going to stay by the pool. Thomas is visibly pissed he is not getting to go off with the guys and escape Ashley for a few hours. Whitney is also staying back with Thomas. Ashley goes back to bed. Thomas tells Whitney that until they know where the relationship is going, Ashley should probably hang back a bit. Then he talks about how great Kathryn handled the situation.
The fishing crew is Craig, Kathryn and Shep they are going out with Shep’s friend Papa Bear. The weather is a bit overcast. This should be great for fishing. Their first catch is a baby shark. They release it. Craig tells Kathryn that Ashley is trying to get knocked up by Thomas. Shep says they can just buy fish on the way home and claim they caught them. This photo above from Kathryn’s IG is a total fake! ROFLMAO.
Chelsea, Craig, Naomie and Danni go out crabbing with one of Chelsea’s friends gigging for blue crab. The crab are biting well. They caught a TON of blue crab. I wish they would toss me a half-dozen of the female ones for she crab soup.
Back at the house, Ashley is painting Thomas’ toenails. He mentions that an apology or four might be in order and she says absolutely not because those are her true feelings. What a cunt this one is. After everyone comes home from fishing and crabbing. The feckless cunt complains to Thomas about when she will actually be fed. I just want someone to give her a knuckle sandwich and call it a night.
OMG the chefs made some Jack Daniels fish kabobs as appetizers while they wait. When I lived in Savannah there was a restaurant on the riverfront that made Jack Daniels scallops. I’m not sure I’ve ever had anything quite that good since. Bring it to my mouf!
Dafuskie makes rum? I want some of that too! OMG, the little tramp asks Thomas to feed her. Yep, daddy issues for sure.
Once again Shep is the only one willing to film with Thomas and Ashley at this point. He asks about their day and Thomas says that Ashley gave him a pedicure. He asks how long the color lasts and Ashley says as long as she wants it to. Clearly, she is drunk again and telling Shep she is the boss of the relationship. Oh poor, delusional aging bitch, your dicksucking simply keeps you around, it in no way makes you the boss. On the other and Thomas has tried to dump her twice recently and word on the street is this street-walker is not going away easily. Sounds to me like she wants a payout for her departure and she know knows that someone else got $200K so, she’s asking for a lot more to simply disappear. She’s a stage five clinger. Even Shep can’t endure anymore and excuses himself. Ashley responds with, “Good talk.” Then she asks Shep to get her a shot of tequila, chilled. Because she is the boss. This fucking cracks me up. Every time she says it, it is even more hilarious. If there is one good thing about her on this show it is watching her be chewed up and spit out by everyone.
Shep joins the rest of the group and says, “I fucking hate her.” He seem to be over it now, but I don’t believe him. I think he just feels sorry for her because she’s lost thirty pounds she didn’t have to lose since filming this. She is very unwell. It seems to me like she is PRETENDING to have advertisers. How sad is that? Even Shep says she will be gone in a month and realizes that Thomas doesn’t want to be stuck in another room alone with her and wants to be with him.
God, I love all of this low country food. At dinner Shep gives a toast thanking everyone for joining him and Chelsea in their hometown. He tries and fails to make a comparison to Charleston. Hilton Head is now all condos full of Yankees and a lot of the charm of the island has been overtaken by commercialism. It’s still very beautiful, but certainly not a great as it was when he was growing up there.
Austen gets a call from Victoria. She saw Danni’s IG story and apparently Chelsea was snuggled up next to him kissing his shoulder. He says they were riding back in a very cold boat and she was definitely not kissing his shoulder. Instead of trying to make Victoria feel safe in the relationship, he starts defending his relationship with Chelsea. Yep. That would do it for me. Nope my boyfriend is not going off for the weekend with his ex. Sorry. Not going to happen and it is extremely disrespectful. Victoria should have been invited.
Next week: Who is that in the hospital gown? Ashley continues to be a cunt. Kathryn has a birthday party with her kids. And Thomas attends without his polo girl.
This post is full of my opinions of Ashley Jacobs based on what I saw on TV.
Just when I was starting to feel some sort of sympathy for Ashley, she has to do all of this shit. I guess since this was taped just as she was beginning her downward spiral, I still feel compelled to feel sorry for her. But come on, when we must watch her and Thomas behave like such vile monsters, it’s quite hard for me not to curse at the TV.
Since VH1 isn’t showing a new episode of Drag Race tonight, I guess I have no choice but to watch this shit-show. And of course, Thomas and Ashley have to ruin it. Damn.
Great recap! I am still in shock by the absolute crazy that is the T-Rav & Ashley affair. For shame!!!
Ashley needs to be punched in the fucking mouth. Holy shit, the vile, hateful shit she was spewing shows her character. Watching Thomas not even try to shut the Bitch up at the restaurant really pissed me off. Every single person there was stunned and sticking up for Kathryn and I am happy about that. The way Ashley told Austin not to move on the ferry so she didn’t have to see Kathryn shows what a childish test she is and to spin Thomas up some more was disturbing. The way he spoke to Chelsea was and should be cause for concern to the courts. Someone that drunk who rages that easily shouldn’t be around Kids. Had Chelsea been channeling me she would have told the old man to sit the fuck down and shut up, why do they put up with the old perv? Shep always seems to try and be the peace maker when there are the huge drama filled things and even he was over it.
This is why Chelsea will never date Austin…when TRAV was yelling at her, that was his chance to show her he was a man and he blew it
I so agree! They are so quick to judge but yet discipline a friend for bad behavior and they are looking around the place like who gon check me boo???
None of those men have any balls to speak up and Stand UP to defend a woman being yelled at and disrespected. Also agree why Chelsea would never be with Austen. He nor Shep defended her, that’s a huge turn off. And what about when Ashely said…”just because you give birth to “something”, doesn’t make you a mother..” OMG… she doesn’t even think the kids are human! Then, “I’m doing it for the FREAKIN KIDS”… she doesn’t care about the children. She’s gross! The ONLY thing about Austen I liked was when he said Ashely not helping de escalate the situation spoke volumes of her character.. Trash. Lol! Nailed it.
While the show is not scripted, I do feel like production told the guys not to interfere. Whitney was placed there to be sure things didn’t go too sidewise and he did not have to intervene
Shep just is nosey, He has to always get both sides, but never makes an adult decision on who thinks is right or wrong. He is the secret trouble maker. LOL. Also the more he digs in other peoples problems he can avoid looking in the mirror. He is a very nice kid, but definately has a drinking problem.
Dorit has lost her crown. Ashley is the new RH Queen Cunt.
Just commenting because I forgot to activate the notifications before. Sorry ‘bout that.
You are so right. Imagine those two together.
That was a doozy of an episode. And a double doozy of a recap. I live vlogged tonight and asked forgiveness for my slacker style. I mentioned you, TT. Lord have mercy.
Thanks so much for coming back over to speak with us here! And thank goodness you and TT are around to debunk the “fake news” and spill all the T on what’s really going on in Charleston.
Thomas is a piece of shit and his piece is trash. We miss you!
Cooper, when Thomas had his dinner party where he jumped on everyone, were things moving along normally before he snapped? Was he drunk? I am wondering if this is his pattern. Does he just break with reality a lot?
Sorry, I know this isn’t your forum but this is fascinating as aberrant behavior goes.
Miss you on the show! I have to check into this vlog!
Couple of things…Nanny Dawn has said in interviews that she told Katherine about the attack some time after it happened. And Katherine, knowing her beloved was being accused, still was fucking around with him. She apparently found that rape wasn’t that big of a turnoff. She has no moral high ground now, after these accusations have become public.
Finally, Chelsea didn’t have the right to dictate who could sleep at the house. This was an all cast vacation by Bravo. She was no more the hostess than Ramona was on Scary Island. Still, Thomas has a bad temper when he drinks. Not cool. Also not cool is equating a guy yelling at you with physical assault. You can’t tell me that someone as mouthy as Chelsea has lived this long without having someone tell her to shut up.
Having said that, Thomas’s new girl is foul. I’m sure that in her mind she tried to be cordial, sitting through the getting to know you lunch with Katherine yawning in her face and rolling her eyes, but she miscalculated badly with her revenge tirade. Hopefully she’s a goner.
I know you. You are eleventy billion years old. You have a life of knowledge. It is not fair of you to hold a 23 year old to your life experience. When Thomas allegedly raped the nanny she was already separated from Thomas. That is why he had the nanny.
I’m going to guess you made some big mistakes in your twenties too. You can’t hold Kathryn to the same standard you have now with like three hundred years of knowledge. Have a seat. She is doing the best she can now.
You on the other hand, as an old person, continue to support Thomas. It’s disgusting.
I have said nothing in support of Thomas since these allegations became known, and you know it. Save your disgust for someone who has, if you can find one.
Oh and I was also a mother at 21. My twenties were quite sedate. I only became a tart after my 300th birthday.
So you agree with what I have said since day one
So you agree with me and what I said since day one? Remember when i refused to recap this whole show because of Thomas? And how you thought he was just a roguish guy?
I must admit I;ve always loved you since your 250th birthday. But you have always been a Thomas fan.
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I have been a Thomas fan, he and Kathryn are this show. If they go, the show is done but that is not what you said. You said I continue to be one after learning of the accusations and it’s disgusting. Let’s not get that twisted.
I really am puzzled by the defense of Kathryn because of her age, as though she’s fresh out of kindergarten. She’s an adult who chose to have two kids out of wedlock. Apparently she was drinking and drugging during at least her last pregnancy. She’s culpable for her choices.
She seems to understand this finally, why do others continue to make the age excuse?
Thomas is an alcoholic and allegedly a rapist. He’s going to have to account for his choices too if the charges are true.
sorry, I have some words set to trigger a moderation and Thomas triggers them. I’d really rather not have these topics on my site but unfortunately they are relevant.
Totally agree, TT!
I don’t think in your smug superiority you have things quite right in your interpretation of how others feel about Kathryn.
For myself, I felt embarrassed for Kathryn at the beginning of the show, but I could always see who the men were attracted to. She has real charisma, but drank too much, trusted too much in an old lush and lecher (that any older woman could have seen through in a flash) and then got drawn into drug addiction at some stage, when it all got too hard.
But to her credit she never acted like a vile and vicious lap dog for Thomas as Ashley does. Kathryn called Thomas out on numerous occasions about his behaviour. She loved him but broke up with him.
Were you also living your life as a 21 year old mother with a lying swine of a womaniser, on a national TV programme, in public view? Perhaps you had a bit more support and privacy.
Kathryn certainly was a fool to believe Thomas’s lies, that he wanted children AND would take care of her if they managed to have a child together. She was stunningly naive. He was only using her and her breeding.
What people are supporting now is that, still in the spotlight, and coping with an ever fouler Thomas, she has turned her life around, looks happy and healthy under difficult circumstances – and shows considerable grace in how she handles adversity.
Finally, she clearly has a big heart which she once gave to Thomas as a very young woman, adores her children and still has charisma in spades, plus is gorgeous to look at. Quite simply, she is admirable.
Beautifully stated, Mackie40!
Thank you! I cannot understand the unkindness and refusal to extend goodwill that Kathryn attracts from some people, no matter how hard she has tried to beat her demons. It is so ungracious.
I was a 2 time unwed mom at 20 and 24. Luckily my “baby daddy” and folks were more or less supportive. Had I been in Kathryn’s shoes (national spotlight, easy things to abuse)I know I would not have survived.
Yes!! Eloquent.
I completely agree with you Mackie! (I really enjoy reading your perspective about things.) People I think forget how young Kathryn was when she started on the show! I remember how naive I was at her age and cannot imagine being thrust into situations like she was! So hapoy she got help. I absolutely love the new improved Kathryn!
Watching Kathryn through the seasons really took me back to being 21. I was also trusting and naive and met my ‘Thomas’ , a brilliant design engineer, 15years older, who was also into whisky and dark rages.
It took me three years to wake up and see – beyond his work – the clay feet everyone else kept telling me about. My parents were devastated after not even allowing me to go out with anyone till I was at university, and then my mother tried to choose for me from sons of families of mothers she had been to school with, the same school I was sent to, etc.(And those mothers did the same brokering.)
I just fell very hard for him, or the idea of him. He then said I could never leave. After 3 years I quietly made arrangements to leave the country, and did one day, when he had flown elsewhere for the day for his business. I was lucky, I got away and never looked back and was only able to because I did not get pregnant while in the relationship, and I had collected really good job experience.
Later, even when married and with masses of support, I found being a mother really slowed me down for a while. So I just have no words to express my admiration for how Kathryn survived, with everything thrown at her. And you could see her sitting on that fishing boat with Craig and Shep, just a few months ago in real time, and still with such a sweet face.
I believe Kathryn truly loved (loves) Thomas. She even admits she never got much from him in terms of material things.
That was perfect
I have always felt exactlg as you’ve stated. I also think that she may have turned to drugs by doing them with t-rav and then when he started mind-f’ing her, she turned to harder and harder drugs to cope. Just a feeling I’ve always had about her sudden spiral.
As a recovering alcoholic for twenty-five years, I can tell you how incredibly hard it is to get sober and then stay sober, especially during those first few years. Early sobriety is a very very painful, humiliating, humbling experience however, most of us get to do it, “anonymously”. Kathryn’s recovery as well as the details of her visitation schedule have been fodder for public consumption. I can’t even imagine that. People have given Thomas a pass for his horrible behavior; it’s also very clear he has a serious drinking problem (as well as a rage problem) as well. kathryn has pulled herself out of a horrible situation, taken responsibility and accountability-something we have not seen from Thomas. At least it’s good to know his reign as King of Charleston is going to have a very bad ending.
PS. It made my day when everyone rallied around Kathryn and even Whitney complimented her on her composure during Ashley’s rant, who would thought that would ever happen??
TT and everyone else covered most of it, but I HAVE to add something.
I’m all about believing women. But I am sick and tired of people, ESPECIALLY women, pointing at the women who are adjacent to a man accused and vilifying them for not knowing, not believing, etc. These predators know EXACTLY how to fool people. Why are you not blaming Whitney? Craig? Shep?
When a loved one has done something wrong, it is going to take any human being with feelings a hot minute to process that, no matter who you are.
When it is someone you loved and hoped to spend the rest of your life with, even if you have already moved past that idea? Yeah, gonna take a hot minute or two.
On top of that, it is the father of your children? That adds another layer that your heart and mind are going to have to deal with in the grieving process (and yes, I believe that to be true when you learn such horrid things about a loved one)
Even if Kathryn believed the accusers 100% the SECOND she learned about it – what the fuck was Kathryn supposed to do?
The one woman T-Rav has the MOST power over? Kathryn. He has full custody of her children, and therefore pretty much complete power over her. He didn’t even have to yank hard on that chain.
If Kathryn had gone full blast on T-Rav and let everyone know of these accusations? She risked NEVER SEEING HER CHILDREN AGAIN.
Kathryn messed up in terms of how she brought children into the world (but T-Rav shares in that situation, and I’m fucking tired of people not acknowledging that fact), and she had trouble with addiction – but she has faced those things head on with a maturity that I don’t see in people twice her age.
Any mother worth her salt would have stood next to Charles Manson if it meant protecting her children or even just having ACCESS to them.
I have no words. What does this vile woman have on Thomas that he’s incapable of getting rid of her?
Can any of this be used at her custody hearing. Can Kathryn at least use it to keep Ashley away from the children. I can’t imagine that this poison is good for them.
I have something akin to a huge hangover or maybe the end of a migraine after watching this episode that the only cure is eating some of that yummy food fixed for supper. Ashley overdose
I don’t wish for Ashley to literally overdose. She exhausts me with her words and actions that it is too much for me. I enjoyed the part of the show regarding fishing and the food best. And next week we’ll see the drama between Austin, Victoria and Chelsea. I need a reprieve from the Ashley drama.
Gertie, before you wrote your 1:17 am follow-up, for half a second I gasped thinking you meant, “Ashley, go overdose.” Then, I thought you wrote “Ashley overdose” sarcastically because, allegedly, Thomas once told a group that he wished Kathryn would overdose. Finally, I figured I must have read it wrong and you only meant you were on Ashley overdose, too much Ashley in one episode (migraine and all).
I really have to get back to work and life…
I thought she meant she overdosed with Ashley. Like, she had too much Ashley. With which, I can agree!
Yes! After the end of the show, I had to take to my bed. I’m green with envy over the beautiful house and fun activities with friends. I would have ended upside down in the saddle of the horse, nose to tail but would be laughing. Probably puke over the side of a boat and still have the time of my life. And sadly, I’d have to go back and find her there sucking as Shep said the same oxygen as me. She’s just too much
THomas is utterly drunk and pussywhipped. An ugly condition.
Kathryn was so controlled and cogent in the face of Thomas and Ashley’s insanity. That alone proves how changed Kathryn is.
Shep’s hatred is so out of character, but deserved. Ashley is a terrible person. Thomas is a fool. I now understand why Kathryn turned down his multiple proposals. Thomas is unworthy.
I don’t know anything, however even before Ashley’s mouth took control of her brain she did not have what it takes to fit in with this group of southerners.
Ah Shep, he spoke so nicely about Kathryn’s beauty a few episodes ago, how she can walk into a room and control it. Last season he tried a few times to help her in social situations, he is always in her group for games. Fishing in Hilton Head. I doubt Shep knows it but I think there was attraction there before Thomas. Maybe not.
Kathryn was a class act in tonight’s shows. I think a lot of what happened in the show can be used by her attorney.
Shep and Kathryn might make a good match, but he’d have to tone down the partying. Kathryn is a mom first now. What an evolution we’ve seen!
Ashley is such a person, I don’t think she’d fit in any group. If a postage stamp were affixed to her , mailing her to the farest place on the planet, she’d be returned priority overnight.
Multiple proposals from Thomas?
Thomas seems fixated on power. He said in the episode at the dinner party that he has all the power and the money. He told Chelsea tonight that she had no power to tell Ashley and him where they could stay. He zeros in on that word – power. Interesting.
Chelsea agreed with Thomas also, I found that more interesting. Who has the power of who stayed in the house? Whitney?
Production. And y’all don’t seem to understand what Whitney’s power is.
Well can Whitney please slip Thomas some lithium to put in Ashley’s scrambled eggs
Joking not joking
They can’t, Thomas already puts Plan B in Ashely’s eggs. ???
Puppetmaster?
When are you going to take a couple days and come to the Smokies. It’s so peaceful here!! I can see Banjo romping by the river . . . Not trying to troll you, it’s just so close and I could hook you up with a great room in a nice place. Email me!!
I may be over-stepping but having read the site for four years or so, I think as lovely as (some) of us are, TT prefers us right where we are!
The Smokies look beautiful; i’m sure it’s amazing in the summer.
Isn’t Whitney a producer of the show? Or he came up with the concept and sold it to the production company?
Chelsea was smart. Thomas was drunk and angry, and everyone else was in shock (I do think if he had become more aggressive, etc. they would have done something).
But she de-esclated the situation and by not rising to it with her own anger, she kept the clear focus on him and that he did that with no provocation. Also, I think that was pure instinct and that she wasn’t even aware of there being others on that boat. Instinct.
But with Chelsea and Kathryn keeping their heads, it is 100% clear to everyone watching and everyone in that cast that the issues are with Thomas and Ashley.
Damn! This is the first Bravo show episode that I watched start to finish without wandering off or dozing off! Epic entertainment! Even had to rewind several sections to re-watch some scenes!
Seeing recent pics of an emaciated Ashley almost took me to a sympathetic level with her… until I watched her assholish, irrational and childish behavior on this episode.
Loved watching Danni come alive with some sass and input.
Loved watching Naomi shut her mouth for a change and quitely support Kathryn (except for her few shady comments to Craig).
Normally love me some Craig but he irritated me tonight for some reason.
Ashley, the co-hostess with the mostest showed more class than I could have mustered with Ashley.
Kathryn held it together in the storm of insanity, named Ashley. Impressive, considering her children were being used as pawns to push her buttons.
Because Craig was dying to jump into the argument with both feet?
* Correction – Chelsea, the hostess with the mostest.
Kathryn’s restraint was really amazing. I’ve been sober a very long time, I’m 54 and I think I would have lost it. (You don’t mess with me or my boy.. Grrrrrr). She’s an example of someone who’s really working a program. I don’t know if she’s in AA, another program or maybe therapy (or all three!) but it’s clear that in addition to putting down the drink, she has made major changes in her life as well. Most of the people in Reality TV who claim, “sobriety” are merely dabblers with no program, they don’t know how to change and they appear stuck and miserable. We all know who they are. It’s nice to see someone who really represents someone in recovery!
I have lost loved ones to alcoholism, it’s an awful disease. Congratulations on your sobriety!!! I assume Kathryn is in NA. She said in one of the reunions, and Thomas concurred, that alcohol was never her problem.
Kathryn also said that the rehab people told her she didn’t even need to be in rehab. There was a while there when nothing Kathryn said could be believed.
Yes, she was still in a really bad place when she made that statement. Thomas had been so horrible to her that evening I was surprised he agreed about the alcohol, he even stated he tested higher for alcohol than (her/she/she did, must be she?). Geez, I hate writing, I stress it too much.
You are so right. Imagine those two together.
Victoria was invited, she said she had to work. Surely she knows that Austin & Chelsea have to go. No choice.
Knowing that Thomas has been accused of going into a rage and snapping puts this whle thing in a new light. He had taken a beating over Ashley already, he was in a bad mood, he was drinking and he snapped. Where has chivalry gone. At least one of the guys should have challenged himto a duel or just kicked his ass.
Ashley is so insecure. That coupled with insane is not good. How she came out of that conversation unbruised is beyond me. I could tell Dani really wanted to pull Ashley’s hair out by the roots.
Not only did Ashley refer to the children as them, she also said “Just because you give birth to SOMETHING……really she said something like Kensie and Saint are creatures from the Black Lagoon.
Ashley went on about the nanny. I translate that Ashley actually cannot be bothered to spend time with them. That’s a good thing.
I have to hand it to Kathryn, she may have been shaking but her silence did make Ashley look like more of a fool than we already knew she was.
I take back what I said about Thomas loving his children. He loves his California nookie more. He did not stand up to her once. I can’t believe she wasn’t embarrassed, I can’t believe he wasn’t embarrassed. He should have packed up and left as soon as he slept off the hooch. Ashley staying to let them know she was still standing was more ridiculous. The pair should have left for Charleston to sit down to write letters of apology.
I do like that people didn’t let them spoil their fun.
Btw, during grilling season I marinate everything with Jack Daniels. I add Jack to Sweet baby Ray Bar B Q sauce. It puts the best flavor in everything.
I was astonished that Shep and at least Whitney didn’t say something or stood up during TRav’s rant against Chelsea to get him to back down and say he was out of line. Thomas was way out of line regarding if it was scripted or not
Preach. #man-boys
Thomas’s face was not scripted, that was pure rage. He would have to be an excellent actor to pull that off. Thomas is no Laurence Olivier.
I think the other guys are for the most part afraid it would escalate to a fist fight with TRav, and I don’t think any of them have any experience with a street fight. Trav’s older but I’d bet he’d be stupid enough to fight, ,and I’ll bet he’d fight dirty. None of them has ever stood up to him, even when his outrageous rants were personally directed at them.
Whitney in part instigated it. Isn’t he the one who made the comment to Thomas that Chelsea didn’t want them back at the house?
Yes. but the truth is Whitney didn’t stay there either. He had his own setup nearby.
I am going to try your grilling suggestion Muffintop. Do you just stir in a shot or so with the Baby Rays?
Depends on how much I am using. It’s a taste test more than anything. Caution: men in the house will pitch a fit about you cooking with their Jack. They will lick the bones yet still complain. We hhad jack marinated steak last weekend. Ummm ?
I cannot wait to try it! We are Jameson lovers but never turn down a good whiskey or bourbon! LOL!
I buy my own Jack, Gentleman Jack. As good as JD is, the fancier stuff is so smooth in bbq.
Thanks for the recommendation! We will have to check it out. Have you tried Caskmates? I am partial to that. Wejust joined a whiskey club so hoping to find something new!
She wasn’t embarrassed because she was drunk as a skunk. I’m not sure she recalled what she said the following day. She’s also a clueless c-nt.
I am speechless why we have to watch hours of this terrible couple!! Please make it stop and get them off this show!!!!
I agree, I thought we were going to see an “edited out” version, although not really sure how…just gross!
Oh. Dear. Lord. There were behind the scenes episodes of Real house wives of BH and PumpRules. What might we see if one is put together for SC? We will not be able to unsee or unhear what was left on the cutting room floor
I’m with TT, I want Austen and Chelsea to work it out. I really like Chelsea, she seems to know what she wants from life and is willing to work for it. Austen seems to have a good heart but he needs to get over his needing to emulate Shep and find something to work toward. They have a very visible connection and seem perfect for each other.
I think someday soon Shep is going to be very lonely and settle for endless nights of debauchery but rambling through life without attachments or connections to anyone. In the short time the show has been airing, Shep has visually aged the most. He has almost used up all of his boyish charm and edging towards smarmy.
I became upset when I saw the way Thomas went off on Chelsea. He had such a rage in his eyes and voice, for a split second I thought if Chelsea hadn’t backed down, he would have attacked her. You could tell she was afraid of him. It made me think of the allegations that have been brought up recently and I found that scene disturbing.
I would wish Thomas had to marry Ashley as his punishment, but then Ashley would have to be in the children’s lives. I really worry she’s poisoning the children with her insecurity, rage, and delusion. Maybe he’ll go to prison.
PLEASE let him go back to prison.
I can’t stand Ashley, but do tell TT, what river street restaurant in Sav has those scallops? I live here and they sound amazing! Oyster House? Vic’s? Huey’s? Shrimp Factory? I haven’t been to those at all but they’ve been around for a while. Let me know!
Sadly the went out of business. Maybe even when I lived there. I loved that bar but is gone and I can;t remember the name..
Thanks for letting me know TT. If ya ever need or want to know what’s still here, hit me up!
Does anyone know how Thomas really met Ashley? He tells the story that they were at a bar and she summoned him over. Then I’ve heard Landon introduced them. Today I heard she tried out for last season and “the part” went to Chelsea instead; which I always thought Chelsea was long term friends with Cameran and that’s how she was on the show. Also was she a nurse and a yacht girl at the same time? Like was she working on yachts as a second job? I have so many questions.
I saw Ashley’s IG page today and she was promoting some kind of self tanner in this weird leotard looking thing and she looked awful. She looked like an anorexic for sure. I almost kind of felt like she was posting the pics to get attention and so people might feel sorry for her.
Yes we do know, she applied for the role. And she is a “polo girl” looking to marry for money.
Okay. I was always confused about how they even met each other.
I had seen the post about “the part” going to Chelsea as well. In my brain, meaning the show is scripted and fictional.
SHE APPLIED to sleep with Thomas? My skin is crawling
Didn’t miss Patricia have something to do with it also?
Patricia was live tweeting this episode tonight after having dinner with Shep and Cam, Whitney. She is NO fan of Ashley..that’s for sure. She seems to have seen the light regarding both Thomas and Ashley. Personally, . I am really fearful that Andy will say Ashley makes for good TV like he says about Dorit, What if they want to keep her ? UGH. HELL.
Fantastic recap. One of the best episodes of any show to be on the air ever. Ashley is unbelievable. I sat there and asked myself why in the world she would show such a vile, hateful side of herself to everyone, and, even more surprising, how did Kathryn keep her cool? The word bitch doesn’t begin to describe Ashley, and then to watch her buttering up Thomas, combing his hair, painting his nails, telling him constantly how wonderful they are together, how precious it is to be with someone you can just kick back and do nothing with, what beautiful children they would have, what a wonderful wife she would be! Is he fucking nuts? Why can’t he see through her? She must be really good at whatever it is she does for him. I want her gone so badly. Then for Shep to say he fucking hates her? Shep? Mr. Mild-Mannered? Loved it. Well, at this point, all the women loathe her, Shep and Craig don’t like her (even though Shep pretends he’s OK), and Whitney is clearly not impressed. Who did I forget? Danni was wonderful – she’s ready to go to war for Kathryn – it’s wonderful to see all the ladies rally around her – such a testament to how much Kathryn has matured. All the ladies are alright in my books – what’sherface is in CA, last I heard – that would probably be the only sour note.
I really don’t know whether to hope TRav gets stuck with Ashley or kicks her to the curb. I’d get hugely more pleasure out of seeing her evicted, but at the same time TRav kind of deserves her. Still, that would mean Kathryn would have to put up with her, and so would the kids, and I wouldn’t wish that on any of them. Find your balls, Thomas! Assert your manhood – Ashley has very aggressively stolen it from you.
Sometimes I wonder if Ashley has dirt on him and that’s why he stays with her.
I would say make her stay – he deserves her, but the unintended consequence is that she would be in the kids life and they certainly do NOT deserve that!
The first thing I thought of when Thomas was yelling at Chelsea was, that was the rage he must have shown to his accusers. How scary that must have been to be alone and have all that anger unleashed on them! It was also incredibly disturbing seeing Thomas iand Ashley interact on the boat after his blow up-WTH? After this episode it is hard to imagine how Bravo can edit him out or hold the rwunuin without him. Those poor children! #TeamKatherinealltheway
#Ashleyshutyourpiehole
Exactly what i thought of as well. Keeping in mind Chelsea had a boat load of protection. Can u imagine being ALOME with him when that came out?? I am walking away from this show until he is gone. Call it being triggered call it life experience, whatever. That was toi much for me. Good entertainment for some but a horrible flashback for others and i am the latter.
That was a scary scene and I think the reason no one jumped to her defense was because they knew Thomas would escalate.
I think they may have been momentarily stunned by TR’s raging too. I would hope someone would have sprung to action if he escalated.
OMG the food! Amazing! I can’t believe anyone even talked during supper!
Twitter is Blowing up with the Ashley hate.
I am in shock after this episode .
Ashley every single episode has begged for a ring,a proposal,babies.. I really think Thomas has mommy issues and Ashley has daddy issues He loves the constant attention that she dotes on him.problem is just her attention will never be just enough for him.
Does anyone else think the table being 1 chair short was intentional ? Blahahahaha
Whitney said there is room behind Craig who or what was he even talking about.
Ashley sure brought the drama and that dog crap that spewed froth from her mouth she speaks her truth and will not say sorry WoW just WoW.
Sure she is the boss ,she is a kept woman,begging for money a ring,and baby.
Shep does not think she will lastI just can not believe this girl claims she is a nurse.
.Think Ashley will post a pic on Insagram when she tries to enter her apartment and the key won’t work in the lock
Wow what a show! Thomas was drinking constantly and was wasted. He was too shitfaced to handle Ashley. I’m glad Kathryn has friends to back her up. She has done well playing the game and letting Thomas hang himself. I wish her well in their upcoming court hearing.
What happened to my comments
It spoke VOLUMES about Kathryn when they were having dinner in the house and there wasn’t room for Ashley and Kathryn was kind enough to ask Naomie to scoot down a little to make room for her. Thankfully, Naomie said No. I initially really liked Ashley, even defended her. I feel like an Idiot. I have always adored Kathryn and I am so happy for her and her continued growth in her sober life.
Ashley is literally the singular worst woman I have ever seen on reality TV. She crosses lines I wouldn’t cross with my own husband when it comes to Thomas and Kathryn’s kids— and that was prior to her going off on Kathryn. I could not give a single shit if my husband and his ex wife wanted to coparent with joint birthdays. She is so beyond inappropriate that I catch myself screaming at the tv.
Thomas’s rage at Chelsea and how quick and honestly frightening it was is very telling of his character or lack there of.
Ashley is literally a shining example of how to act to lose a man in 10 days— if he can stay sober for 10 days. From constantly asking for engagement rings to asking him for his credit card, to fucking with his kids and the mother of his kids and then offending all of his friends, she is godawful. What self respecting woman ASKS a man for his credit card??! A super desperate one who is dating a man old enough to be her father who she sought out to get a check. She makes me sick.
She will never get anything from him. What a foolish, tacky, revolting waste of a woman. I sincerely worry about any patients of hers if she is actually nursing again. Like shit where you eat and score a doctor FFS!
She must really think he’sfull of money and power. She modeled her dress for him saying she felt like a “first lady”. Later she says that Katheryn must be horrible if he a “convicted criminal” was given primary rights to his kids. This woman lives in a world created by her own mind with no verbal filter.
there was a funny Twitter post of how to Lose a guy in 10 days with a pic of Thomas and Ashley that was a good 1 I laughed my butt off
I cringe any time a woman hints she wants a ring, wants a proposal, wants to get married. If you have to hint, you have problems already, and if he’s dragging his feet, all that pressure will just make him drag them more. But Ashley takes it to the next level! It makes her look so pathetic!
If Victoria was so upset at Austen and Chelsea huddling together on the boat, imagine how she’s going to feel when she sees them tell each other they love each other by the fire pit at the restaurant. You can’t have them both, Austen!
When Shep’s line pulled from a fish he gave Katheryn his beer to hold. I took such a deep breath I thought my lungs would explode. They showed Katheryn holding the bottle and all I could think was Thomas’ lawyers arguing she had been drinking and here’s the proof
I saw that too and then quickly realized she was holding it for someone else.
I don’t think liquor was really ever her issue. I think— and just my opinion based on watching the show— that she probably was using the drug TRav went to jail for. His behavior at times is in line with someone using that drug, as Kathryn’s behavior used to be.
What is it with Bravo shows and islands and boats? This is like Scary Island all over again!
Did anyone notice the hairbrush Ashley was using to brush Thomas’ hair? Did my eyes play tricks or did that brush have Dora the Explorer on it?
It was nice to see the group supporting Kathryn, especially Whitney.
It was a Dora the explorer. I was about to comment about it. Wtf does she have that brush and if it’s Kenzie’s it should be at home with her. Or maybe she just thinks it’s a “cute” brush to Carey around. Blech
I am binge watching Southern Charm and I am only on S3 E10. Trying to catch up with Y’all.
I do love this show and I think it’s one of Bravo’s best. Wish I had watched from the beginning so I could join in the fun with Y’all.
She crab soup TT! Send me some too!!
I really hope that Thomas does not drink around the kids. He’s a scary angry drunk. I know Kathryn had her issues with drugs but why does he get a pass with alcohol? It was wonderful to see everyone supporting Kathryn. I hope that continues!
SHE APPLIED to sleep with Thomas? My skin is crawling
I have always believed that Thomas hired Ashley not just to film with, but to actively do everything possible to derail Kathryn’s parenting plan. Ashley was clearly gaslighting Kathryn as hard as she could last night. The real reason Thomas walked away was so HE could show this episode to a judge. (he was convinced Kathryn would lose her shit) I think the real reason he wants to get rid of Ashley now is she failed at her primary objective, to screw up Kathryn’s parenting plan and keep Thomas in 100% control. Thomas is going to half to write a big check to shut Ashley up, if I am correct, she could bury Thomas in family court.
That makes as much sense as anything. My belief is that Thomas wants the power over the children he could not get with Kathryn.
For enough cash, people will be happy to play the villain. Later, they can say they were “acting”.
I agree that Thomas is encouraging Ashley to say all of the things he wants to say but can’t for legal reasons. He wanted to goad Kathryn to the point of exploding and used Ashley to do it. Unfortunately for him Ashley isn’t as good at her job as he was hoping.
I think Ashley did a pretty good job of coming as hard as she could for Kathryn (that’s not a compliment to Ashley btw) but they both underestimated Kathryn’s growth and strength.
It was quite telling that Thomas commented to Whitney that he was surprised that Katheryn remained calm during the constant verbal lashing that Ashley provided. You bet that he was on a mission to have Katheryn lose her cool. His disappointment was palpable. He had better get her out of town pronto, her price goes up daily to silence her. God she has a hardware store of loose screws.
You know how many people have thought the same thing that ……Ashley is just being her dumb self and Thomas is using her to get Katheryn to lose her cool.I do not think Ashley is exactly in on it but Thomas has fed her whatever to get her to really hate and be jealous of Katheryn.
Ashley’s behavior reminds me of Jodi Arias. Not kidding! I am frightened for the children when they are in her care. I’m sure she screams when disciplining them and shows them the same contempt and hate that she does towards Kathryn.
I thought the same thing, Karen. Adorable little Kenzie looks so much like her mama, I can just imagine how evil Ashley must be towards her! She has said that she can’t stand Kathryn and that she despises her, loathes her, doesn’t respect her, etc…and I am so worried she takes it out on the poor babies. I’m not accusing her of physical abuse, but my guess is that she just treats them as “things” that are in the way – sort of like how she refers to them as “those children”, and doesn’t seem to acknowledge that they are little humans who are very, very impressionable. I went to bed last night thinking about all sorts of horrible wicked stepmother stories. My heart bleeds for those kids. I really wish Kathryn could get primary custody. Praying that Ashley does not get pregnant by Thomas, which will only make all of their lives so much more miserable. : (
Wow, super recap! I haven’t even watched the episode yet but I couldn’t wait to know what happened. Gold star TT for the speedy and excellent post (as per usual). Special request to Bravo: less horrible behaviour and more fishing and food with the cast members who are actually friends please!
A couple things I noticed (that nobody has mentioned yet. Probably just me and my “oddities”
The guys were avoiding the table when Ashley came unglued and when Thomas finally took Ashley away from the table Craig said “oh no they are coming this way”. Made me laugh!
I was shocked when Thomas went scary rage (it was more than words and tone, he got up off the seat and leaned in) on Chelsea on the boat and Austin just said something like okay, enough. I thought, THAT is why Chelsea won’t stay with Austin. If it was my hubby, his voice would have been louder and more enraged for someone talking to me in that tone and with that aggression. I was frankly surprised that none of the men stepped up, other than a calmly spoken word. Thomas must be that scary in real life. . . .
oh wait I knew there was a third! When Thomas spit out his drink when Kathryn said it was going to be a legal issue!!! He freaking had to sit down after that one! Ha!
I was dying when Craig looked down and away from them as he said that! ?
It was whitney who started the entire thing up again on the boat. he instigates by saying “Thomas, Chelsea says your girl can’t stay at the house tonight whatr you gonna do about that?
The reason Chelsea wouldn’t date Austin is because of that boat scene right there. any dude Chelsea would date would’ve told Thomas if he said another word he was getting his ass kicked and then followed through if he kept yelling.
Vitoria was invited last episode- she said she had to work
The fact that Thomas showed that rage on film just proves that he completely out of control . Just sit back and do what you are doing Kathryn. Thomas is digging his own grave , so to speak, documenting his out of control drinking and violent behavior.
Holy shit, what an episode! Kathryn and CHELSEA both have allllll of my respect for how they handled themselves with that cunt. omg when she was ranting to Chelsea and kept saying her name over and over I was cringing. What a mess that girl is.
I think it was mentioned last week that Victoria couldn’t go because of work and I think that’s Shep after his knee surgery, maybe. Was he wheeled out?
I’ve re-watched this episode many times and Ashley seems completely unhinged and absolutely psychotic. That girl has major issues and she look she gets in her eyes and the way she repeats words over and over to make a point (the nanny, the nanny, the nanny!). This girl is bat-sh*t crazy. She could be husband undoing ????????
**his undoing
I love her new stance. She is just trying to make good TV. She wants to be a full cast member. That is not true. She’s drunk out of her mind attacking the woman that she knows Thomas is hung up on.
Did you ever notice the people coming forward about Thomas have this whole “fucking the neighbor thing in common?” Was is the one with then NDA who said something about looking out the window and him saying that is the room she (Kathryn) fucked the neighbor in? I feel like Kathryn may have fucked the neighbor, and if she didn’t he seems to believe it. And so when he goes into these drunkend “trances” it is like he is really talking to Kathryn and accusing her of fucking the neighbor. It’s freaky.
Yes his psychotic breaks from reality will be his undoing. How dare Kathryn humiliate him, and disrespect him doesn’t she know he has the power?
I think he brought Ashley on board to rip Kathryn to shreds. Thank God the boat is tipping the other way.
Remember the woman he went out with after he and Kathryn broke up DID go off with his neighbour. I think her name was something like Nadia. She was European, a blonde real estate agent, and he said he met her in the self improvement section at a bookstore.
Blaming Ashley’s behavior on being half Italian (“fiery”). FUCK YOU! She’s a cunt, plain and simple.
The way she kept saying Chelsea’s name or the word enabler and flipping the hair is so cray cray. It’s weird because she keeps repeating the same word over and over and over again so I wonder what that craps about
Adderall?
I commented on the same thing. She is freaking crazy and weird as hell!!!
Thomas said that after saying he isn’t a racist. What a dumbass. Italian is an ethnicity not a race. Maybe the word he meant to use was bigot or stereotype. I was blown away by his whole demeanor. He seemed confused and contrite. Completely different than he had been earlier. Is Thomas manic or bipolar?
Oh please please please make Thomas go back to prison.
Katheryn was AMAZING last night.
Totally agree with everyone that Austin should have defended Chelsea!
After last week, I thought it was all scripted and they told Ashley to say all this stuff.
If she ISN’T acting, she is one of the worst people ever.
Oh, and I am sick of Naomi being such a witch to Craig.
He handles it pretty well, but she is clearly not over him if she has to keep insulting him.
I really like Chelsea so much. When she was crying about the things said to K, I liked her even more.
Chelsea carried herself so well in last night’s episode. AND, she revealed just how street smart she is when she chose not to engage T-Rav when he attacked her. She just backed down and agreed with him – not because she DID agree with him, but because she knew that one wrong move would push him off the deeper end. I am proud of her for the way she acted. Awesome job all around. Its just sad that she even had to be subjected to his attack in the first place.
But why should the women on this show have to tip-toe around Thomas in fear of triggering that rage? I hope they’re all refusing to film with him next season if he hasn’t been fired yet.
I know! Had I been there, I probably would have kicked him in the mouth before he even saw it coming. I know violence is never the answer, but it would have made me feel a little better.
I wish we could simply call Ashley cunt and everyone knew who we were referring to. LOVE Chelsea! She’s simply great!
Kathryn deserves a medal for not taking the bait … how DARE Ashley make those comments! So many to point to, but the wrestling with PIGS? Just insane. Zero sympathy for her, no matter what her ‘current state’ is.
Did anyone else think that Whitney should have stepped up during the attack by Ashley on Kathryn at the beginning? I mean, I think he and Thomas were pretty close at the time this was filmed, weren’t they? And he was the only guy at the table, and more “neutral” (if that is the correct word) with respect to how everyone at the table felt about Ashley. I just thought he should have tried to diplomatically get it under control. But then again, maybe he deliberately chose not to, because he knew it would make for good tv. And, TT, I have to ask – even though I know you probably won’t tell us – TobaccoRhoda sounds EXACTLY like Patricia. When I read her comments, I could even hear Patricia’s voice saying the words, with the same lilt, etc…But I know you are very fond of Patricia, so now I am not so sure….hm….you have got me wondering there now….Would you even tell us if it was Patricia? : ) (purty please?!)
Production filmed and allowed all the insanity because it made good tv.
No one cares about those who got yelled at or how real it was.
Production knows how to wind people up and let them go.
Yes. I am Patricia.
Well, now we’ve said it!
after I posted that earlier, I read it again and second-guessed myself, because I don’t think Patricia would cuss like Tobaccorhoda does….soo…..I’m not convinced now!
LOL
But I always thought you were Patsy!! : (
I don’t see Whitney as a stepping up to it kind of guy. He said something, not much because Ashley never took a breath after that. He then urged Thomas to take Ashley away. He also convinced Thomas to apologize to Chelsea on the boat. None of this is Whitney’s style. I get it, my friends and family don’t have these kind of confrontations, what do you do? I would have personally hustled her out but I’m female. None of the men other than Thomas could have physically led her out of there. I do think Dani was so close to physically throwing her out.
There is no way on God’s green earth that the Ashley stuff isn’t scripted. NOBODY can act like this in real life on TV and expect there to be no accountability. So she is either mentally ill or acting. No other options. Why is Naomi such a bitch? She’s another one who needs a reality check. Thomas needs to go back to jail and Kathryn needs to get full custody of her kids. I could hardly watch last night due to Ashley’s mouth. They need to get back to the original Southern Charm atmosphere and stop this Ashley stuff. Whitney? Are you reading our comments? The show is getting dark and it’s not good.
True, Naomie has hardly shown us her best side this season but it was very kind of her to hold Kathryn’s hand during Ashley’s attack.
Oh, trust and believe there are stepmothers out there like this.
I have NO DOUBT that if Ashley were to marry Thomas and get knocked up, there would be a clear division between her child and Mackenzie and Saint. It might not be clear to anyone else, but it would be clear to Kathryn’s children and in probably ways even more damaging, to this hypothetical child.
I call mentally ill. For real, she triggers me. I’ve been around crazy and she is definitely not of sound mind.
Ashley is around to provide interest and conflict. Even though we all love the episodes with good food, good music and good vibes, we wouldn’t watch if there weren’t some conflict. Ashley really does sound as
if someone is putting insults in her mouth. Even a ditsy broad from California has to know she is behaving
badly. I’ve not decided if it’s production goading these insults, or if it’s Thomas trying to get Kathryn to
explode on television, so as to screw up her custody privileges. He is such a creep, I wouldn’t put it past him.
I think Ashley received much of her information and direction from Landon.
LOVE all the girls rallying around Kathryn! No sympathy for her at all after this episode. All Stars Danni & Chelsea in this ep standing up for a friend.
Austen STILL didn’t tell Chelsea that she had already been back together w/ Vic -tells us all we need about this short relationship. Bye Vicky. Also let’s NOT forget that Victoria went out w/ her friends ex…Shady shady lady!!
oh gosh, I really need to stop commenting and get back to work, but….I LOVED when Kathryn was standing at the kitchen bar in the house before dinner with her butt right at Thomas’ and Ashley’s eye level!! lol…and Ashley had to endure that – but showed her childishness by scoffing and asking to be spared that, ugh…! Did anyone else notice: It looked like Kathryn was wearing the same stretchy dressy black pants that she wore to Naomi’s parents’ restaurant opening. So, Kathryn is wearing repeat clothes, but in a very fashionable and classy way, while Ashley is being treated to $10,000 shopping sprees..! Pitiful. Karma is a biotch, Ashley – I can’t wait for it to catch up to you!!
On the After Show, Kathryn says she did it on purpose. LOL! She said the pants were $7 pleather leggings from Amazon.
Ahahahaha! I love it!
Spread-eagled Thomas getting his toes done, that I cannot unsee.
Ashley is treating him like her fave geriatric patient. Creepy. Money makes people do bizarre things. I do wonder what kind of nurse she is.
I am positive the producers know how to push buttons and push the controversy. Last year, Kathryn. This year, Thomas and Ashley.
My mind is boggled that children are involved in this. They are public figures.
Perhaps someone is allowing Thomas to be drunk and belligerent so he does something spectacularly newsworthy.
Agree with others: more fishing, food, scenery, friends.
Poor Craig. The eternally picked on. Why does Naomie keep picking? So unkind.
Kathryn is doing amazing. Nothing short of it.
My favorite part was Ashley pissed off that women’s rears were “in her face “. And Shep’s face when Ashley asked for a chilled shot.
Is Bam (Landon’s sister) Orchid’s helper?
Where’s Whitney? Hanging upside down in the closet. – I love this.
Feckless cuntery abounds. Ashley is nauseating. Kind of surprised Thomas let that convicted felon comment go by unchallenged. Sounded like true love.
I’ve seen Ashley getting trashed on Twitter last night. It is as if everyone is filled with such loathing for her that words alone are insufficient to express it satisfactorily. She fills me with rage and i don’t even know her. Everything about her is infuriating, from her treatment of Kathryn, her refusal to apologize, her pride in how she behaved, her treatment of Thomas (the baby talk cuddling makes me throw up in my mouth), her treatment of Shep, her self confidence — ugh, I could go on and on.
Even more infuriating is that she is still around, posting on Ig and Twitter. TR is one pathetic man.
I have to stop. My blood pressure is going up just thinking of these two.
think about it though — the only difference between the two is that Kathryn spent 3 years of disgusting, foul mouthed rants and losses of control, where Ashley had had only one. Kathryn doesn’t lovde Thomas, she just wanted his money. Her fmaily lost its money 100 years ago so she is poor white upper middle class trash. And yes, good, she’s had one year of sobriety. That doesn’t make her a heroine.
Nowhere did I say Kathryn is a heroine. I was talking about Ashley and TR. But, Kathryn clearly behaved better than they did.
And how many seasons did you have Alex?
Rurooh! We see you “Alex”.
It is about time Katherine have Thomas evaluated. And turn the tables on him. HIs behavior, drinking and fits of rage seems like he may not be a suitable parent at this time 🙂 U go Katherine!
KD’s Insta is not fake. Shep brought back Flounder. The shark and the fish above were thrown back.
Did you even watch the episode?
My thoughts:
Ashley DEFINITELY has dirt on Thomas…it’s been in Blind Items on this site. Curious to see how much she spills after her rent is up in October!
The ladies on the show deserve an award for not physically attacking her.
I agree. It wouldn’t surprise me if she snoops around in his office, on his phone etc. She must be sitting on a pile of dirt. Thomas never had a problem dropping gals he’s tired of. What makes her any different? Yup. She’s got dirt on him.
It was quite telling that Thomas commented to Whitney that he was surprised that Katheryn remained calm during the constant verbal lashing that Ashley provided. You bet that he was on a mission to have Katheryn lose her cool. His disappointment was palpable. He had better get her out of town pronto, her price goes up daily to silence her. God she has a hardware store of loose screws.
TT, would you mind clarifying which nanny has “accused” Thomas of rape? Having trouble clarifying which nanny# we are talking about here and where in relation to that timewise did the incident occur and with which? I’d appreciate it!!!
The first one, Nanny Dawn. http://tamaratattles.com/2018/05/10/thomas-ravenels-second-accuser-revealed/
Also at the end of each posted you will see a “Filed under” and “Tagged As” In this instance if you click on the tag for Thomas Ravenel it will take you to all of the posts on this site about him in reverse chronological order.
Of course Ashely is an ass for having said anything about another person’s kids, but come on, have you no memory? Kathryn’s life for the past 4 years — apart from sleeping with everyone on the cast except Craig and Austen (the latte,r surely, just because he wasn’t in it then), has been an unrelenting series of disgusting, hateful, foul-mouthed screeching and howling at everyone.
Kathryn is one sick girl. From a good family, she is trash. As bad as Ashley is, she isn’t in Kathryn’s league when it comes to violent episodes of hateful behavior. But true, Ashely picked the one wrong subject for hers. It’s none of her business. I just think that glorifying Kathryn former Cocaine, pot and who knows what else abuser (oh, an alcohol too) is wrong. These are just two women looking at Ravenel for money. That is perhaps the worst thing one can say about both!
I understand what you’re saying. I wouldn’t call her sick, I would call her troubled, however it certainly appears as though she’s gotten herself together. That parenting plan was no joke AT ALL and it looks as though she has done the work required to get it together and that’s all that really matters. We can’t change the past but I truly believe she has been humbled and has grown from the experience. Just the humiliation alone could have pushed her to the point of no return. I know she had to go deep to get herself to where she is today and that’s truly admirable. So she was an insufferable bitch before. Big deal. We’re seeing someone different now. That’s what counts the most today. And being an insufferable bitch comes in handy sometimes. ?
Hi Alex! You seem to have great information about Kathryn’s drug use. Please email me with all of the drug test results you have seen. Because my meager sources as someone with close ties to the situation are quite different than yours. I happily await your insider information!
cunt,
I just ran an IP trace on Alex. I thought it was Ashley. It is not. It’s actually worse than that.
That is crazy!
Landon?
Or Jennifer
Dorit, giggles aside would not put it past her . Let’s be honest about it Dorit would use her name.
and PK (say it like she does)
Hoping we’ll find out more on a Blind. Do tell, please. (I’m in shock and mourning a death here people. I need a good Blind to distract me from my thoughts. RIP Imposters.)
Thomas?!
Bended Knee?
Please don’t let it be someone that has been publically supporting her.
I’m guessing it’s the nanny who was fired after Kathryn completed her program.
This! Jennifer is my other guess like Jane said.
The Ashley comments have been covered, and yes she is one messed up broad who everyone wants to punch. Scripted or not, must of been hard for Kathryn to listen to, but it was worth being vindicated.
I just want to add that this episode was beautifully filmed. You actually felt like you were right there in the house or on the boat, and of course showing the food. I really felt like I was in HHI. Lovely place to visit in the fall.
Daufuskie is beautiful. One of my college roommates worked for Beth at Marshside Mama’s for several years. One of those rum companies, too. He was old family Savannah and drank accordingly, a professional bartender. I think that place closed down recently.
OK rewatching this episode, Danni when she pulls T RAV aside is letting him know that Kathryn isn’t throwing him under the bus and he needs to get control of the situation is best friend offense I love her great friend.
What is telling is that fact that Danni is privy to inside information of his discussing Behavior of the past that Kathryn isn’t making open to Ashley
This episode gave me full on aniety! Ashley clearly has mental issues. I couldn’t be more proud of the way Katherine handled the situation. I hope she continues to handle things just like she did in the episode. If she does, I think Thomas will just continue to hang himself and she will have her children back and be awarded more than just 50/50 custody. She just needs to continue on her path.
Also, I think everyone should have a friend like Danni!!! Good for her for having Katherines back the way she did!! It made me so happy to see Katherine surrounded by a great support system!
I LOVE Chelsea, but can we talk about the fact that she said Austen would be hotter with a dip in?!!! Ugh. Chew is nasty…
She just REALLY NEEDS Austen to be more macho, he’s a bit… wide in the hips and doesn’t give that feeling of safety many of us seek out. I’ve broken off relationships with guys who were really into me because I felt like if a SITUATION arose, I’d have to save us.
Yeah, I totally get that. And I fucking love my husband, he’s the best….. but I’ve been trying to get him to stop chewing for like four years. Because it’s fucking nasty.
I love Chelsea too but don’t see her with Austen either. It can be hard when you like someone, have made a connection, should have probably stayed “just friends” transitioning back to friend or solid breaking away when either person goes back and forth and second guesses? She’s smart she’ll separate when she figures it all out. She’s not in it to fix it. If he’d “fix”it? She may be more interested beyond frienship. Austen is kinda too wishy washy in my opinion for her as “her man.” I hear you TT about the hips! Personal preference for sure but if the other part of the picture was clear and strong? Absolutely not a deal breaker!
*friendship
I’ve watched this episode four times now. The first time I was so angry I couldn’t see straight. But after repeated viewings, a few things stand out. First of all, the way Thomas reacted when Ashley started in on Kathryn -I feel like he is watching Kathryn CLOSELY to see her reaction. I’m.convinced that he and Ashley cooked that up as another test, hoping to get her to freak out on camera. Also, it is CLEAR that Ashley thinks she’s going to get the victim/hero edit- the things she says to Thomas after he pulls her away are to lay groundwork for what she thinks will be the episode where everyone sees that she “took all she could but was pushed too far.” These two things are reasons I don’t buy the argument that she might be mentally ill. All of that was calculated,if you ask me.
On the boat, AFTER Thomas attacks Chelsea, Shep says, “he’s had a rough night,” referring to Thomas. Now, I love Shep but NO. I was so disappointed to hear him say that after seeing yet again what Thomas does when a woman dares to tell him what to do. ALSO, I’m a Southern girl through and through, and grew up with well-raised Southern men and the SECOND they heard Thomas leave his seat with a raised voice, every one of them would have been between him and Chelsea. Not necessarily to fight him, but to diffuse the situation and give her protection and support. I’d love to know if her Daddy has seen Thomas lately. These Charm men handled that situation badly.
Anyway, I know I’m late to post on this recap but I had to process all of it. I wanted to cry when I saw Kathryn’s face after that attack. I was so happy to see her friends immediately step up for her. Danni is the MVP. I have loved someone with addiction issues and to see a person not only go to rehab but really work rehab is heartwarming. She took those lessons in and you can see her applying them in her life.
One more thing! I see Landon’s influence on Ashley too. Any time Ashley said “People told me…” I thought, no girl, Landon told you. Disclaimer: I HATED Landon.
My favorite part of this episode – Thomas choking on his drink when Kathryn said Ashley could be a legal issue.
TT, I’m sure you have your sources all lined up for what happens in court Friday. Can’t wait to hear!
Where is Alexander The Pretty Good when you need him?
200!
Late to the episode and comments this week but I too was impressed with Danni although I’ve been a fan of hers since she rejected Thomas’ awkward advances. Wtg Danni!
Naomi acted like a good lawyer telling Kathryn not to answer or respond to Ashley talking about Saint in the hospital. I was impressed she kept cool. She was being fantastic friend for Kathryn.
Thanks for pointing that out. I’d forgotten about that and you’re right. Naomi IS a good friend.
Well I finally caught up with SC. I feel Katherine is being quite smart controlling her emotions. When Thomas goes to jail (yes please) she will have full custody of her babies. I admire her for bouncing back with such maturity and grace. Ashley is off the scale and it’s scary thinking about her being around the children. Katherine just needs to keep her cool. I know I couldn’t do that if I was in her position.