Nothing I am about to say matters. Because at the end of this episode, Luann’s arrest happens. So I am just going to play along. But first, I wanted to let you know Bethenny was on CNN today talking about the situation in Puerto Rico. She was just there two weeks ago. She is not surprised by the death toll and says that is only the documented deaths and there are so many more.
Anyway, here we go with the bitching. I’m a bit drunk as I made a fish dinner and ended up feeding it to Banjo. I love fish, but as it turns out Orange Roughy is not my thing. Or maybe I didn’t cook it well either way, Banjo is less irritated with me. At least until later when he throws up the onions. I know, I know, he’s probably going to die. Except he won’t. He’s a real dog not some punk.
Bethenny and Carole are arguing in costumes. Bethenny points out they were in different places during the off season. Carole was traveling with Tinsley and BETHENNY WAS TRYING TO SAVE THE WORLD. Um, caps mine. I am so proud of Bethenny. I have so much respect for her humanitarian endeavors. Finally we get to the bottom of it. Carole says Bethenny called her and told her she thinks Adam is “an operator” and some other negative stuff about him. Tune in next season when all of that is proven true. Carole says Bethenny did not tell her she had contacted him to participate in the Puerto Rican relief efforts and he turned her down. Luann drunkenly jumps in to trash Adam. Carole says that Bethenny told her that Luann was a loser. Bethenny seems to admit to this as the fight escalates. I think. Banjo is loudly defending me against some major threat that I think is just thunder. Luann is less than thrilled about Bethenny’s comment.
Luann and Bethenny quickly make up. Meanwhile in real time, my hand is on the button to rent a vacation house. Carole is pissed that Bethenny didn’t donate to her marathon charity.I can see that. Bethenny should have done that. I donate to charities of people I just like on TV. Because, I don’t really have friends that donate to charity. Or that many friends at all.
Moving on, Dorinda just wants to have a dam birthday cake so she brings it out into the hallway where people are fighting. Dorinda smashes the cake in her face. I am so distracted by other things tonight, I apologize. I am PISSED that not having a cell phone stops me from doing NORMAL THINGS.
Drunk Bethenny and drunker Dorinda bond over dressing like Santa and his elf. Bethenny is fine with being nude on TV and I would be too if I looked like her.
Y’all I have a lot going on right now in real time. I’m sorry that this recap is going to hell.
The long and the short of it is that Bethenny does seem a bit jealous of Carole and Tinsley being so close. Bethenny used to travel with Carole and now Carole travels with Tinsley. They seem to make peace for a bit though. I don’t think Carole pays for any of the trips.
God I really need to be done with this recap and we are only half way through.
Sonja’s explanation about why the sink and the towel bars need to be reattached is hilarious.
Please help me Jesus. I am not made for multitasking.
The whole Yankee gift giving thing was a bust. It seems like they all kept what they got. Then Dorinda gives Bethenny the nutcracker that Brynn wanted. She didn’t seem to thank Dorinda.
Sonja points out that Luann is going to Palm Beach where Tom will be. Bethenny says Tom has a new busted up girlfriend. Luann is not happy.
Luann has a blood drive. Apparently, if you were in Mexico within the last year you can’t give blood? Carole can’t donate because she is too underweight. Everyone trashes Bethenny. Tinsley invites Sonja to stay with her during her renovations.
Bethenny calls Ramona and tells her she thinks she is a shit stirrer and that she thinks Ramona loves pitting people against each other. Ramona says Bethenny loves putting people down to make her look good.
Luanne rents a great spot for her to film in NYC in. She actually lives in The Hamptons.
Wow. They use the police footage on this episode. So awful. And her court appearance. Tacky, Bravo. So tacky.
I have one of those punk dogs that get a upset tummy for no reason and I have to feed scrambled eggs to a lot. Maybe she’s smarter than I think. I was a little disappointed that Dorindas hair didn’t catch on fire when she smashed her face into the cake while the candles were lit. LuAnns drunken arrest was shameful but she seems to be honestly remorseful. I hope she apologized to those officers
I want a recap of what you had going on in real time while this episode was on. I’m nosey like that. 🙂
I was in the middle of having sex with a REALLY hot guy and then I saw the clock and said, Babe, I have to work now…
Ha that would never happen, y’all would just have to wait.
I was trying to book my first AirBnb. Just a short little road trip with the boy, As it turns out, you cannot book an AirBnB without a cell phone. but in the mean time, since I don’t have a cell, I was confused as to why my phone number was being rejected and I was frantically emailing Lady C asking her what my phone number is. I also asked our favorite Project runway recapper. It was a hot mess of concern for my mental health.
For the record, I DID in fact know my own phone number. And I just can’t book it 🙁
OMG you have to give a photo to book an Air BnB ? They should tell you that up front, Trip cancelled,
Also, many vacation rental owners now have their own websites, facebook pages, and/or advertise on “no fee” websites. I’m sure there is one specific for the area you are looking in. Try searching the name of the house you are wanting to rent, I bet you can rent off ABB and save money.
Try Stayz.com Tamara – no photo, you can use a landline 🙂
NO! Homeaway, VRBO, ABB, Stayz, Tripadvisor, and there are a few more are now charging upwards of a 20% fee, for nothing! Look for sites that are regional and by owner that do not charge fees. Deal directly with the owner, NOT these big box sites. Oh, also, many of the homes on VRBO are actually managed by a property management company, it is still cheaper to rent directly for the company.
VRBO. Maybe that will work.
Try VRBO you don’t need a photo
For some strange reason, I was also in the process of booking a dream vacation that I was never going to take. And in my exploration, I noticed that Travelocity also books vacation rentals now! They have an option to check for that. So probably all you’ll need is a credit card. I didn’t notice it on Expedia though. But probably other booking sites also do that too.
I booked an Air BNB for August, and did not have to supply a picture.
Require a photo to rent a room .WTH ? that could go so many ways and what exactly are they looking for that they need a photo of a person before you show up ?
Discrimination could come into play . I can understand wanting someone clean but looks have zero to do with whether a person is clean or not.
Are they afraid one of America’s Most Wanted are gonna want to rent a room Scared a terrorist is gonna launch a full scale mission ?
I think they do that because it’s inside their home. I was worried about the whole BRB concept But I heard it works really well. I had a lot of success on the VRBO
I rent my beach condo and require a copy of the guest’s driver’s license. And the person who signs the contract must be the person who is paying and the address on the driver’s license must match the address associated with the credit card.
Do you have a Google Voice number? I use it for everything that requires a phone number entry.
I’m so confused TT. Why don’t you have a cell phone? And do you have a boyfriend? Pretty much a newb here, but I love it, so sorry for the intrusive questions??
I’m going to just go with that first paragraph and forget the rest is there.
We all knew Carol’s under weight, interesting that it was said on camera. This episode made me sad, not sure why, maybe all the damaged women during the holidays. Luann’s arrest is also sad.
I’m too thin to give blood. It happens
B’s blog is up……………. and she isn’t trashing anyone.
I’m sure Carol will talking trash once again………so glad Beth got hers up first.
FU Carol!
Bethenny has trashed Every single woman on this show, often multiple times. She’s come gunning for them and God Forbid they should dish it back, “I already know this or that!!” “There’s nothing new you can tell me about myself!!” She’s done it as recently as last season. I truly appreciate the charity work but she’s no saint. Most of the women use the blogs as forum in which to correct something or defend themselves (including Bethenny in the past). The majority of her time on the show Carole hasn’t utilized it in that fashion but she is now. I understand that people don’t care for her or agree with her position in this argument but I think it’s hypocritical to attack her for defending herself-especially when as I said, most of the housewives do the same exact thing.
I totally agree with what you wrote.
The scene with Ramona on the phone with Bethanny was so weird! Totally staged. I am not even sure she was really talking to anyone on the phone at the time. The camera angles, the editing, the focus, it was all just so odd and off-putting.
Also, I was really sad for Luann that they used the police footage. I just kept saying “Wow, they did her dirty” to my poor husband who really could care less. Totally agree, that was tacky. Something you would see on Bad Girls Club or something.
Maybe if Dorinda hadn’t smashed the cake and allowed Carole to have some, she would have been able to donate blood. Duh! But really, I wish I had that problem. They would probably take double from me!
Me too, right there with ya!
Andy has always treated LuAnn like shit. He seemed positively gleeful when she announced her divorce. Misogynist pig.
Andy never misses an opportunity to be shady – let me go and grab someone else’s footage of the worst moment of your life and air it internationally.
B’s professional work/ charity work is amazing and inspiring. I also heard her charity is a 5 star rated organisation. Amazing! full stop.
But, never missing an opportunity to be a hypocrite; B using her charity work as a stick to beat Carole over the head with sucks and reminds me of Jill/ B Bobby Zarin Cancergate season 3.
B’s massive issue with Jill not investing enough support into Bobby’s diagnosis and bringing it up on camera and claiming Jill doing that was unforgivable for 8 years….. B is doing the same to Carole right now “you were getting your nails done, while I was saving PR’. Same sort of unfair tv show fight.
We are all going to be doing more or less for charity at some stage than our friends. No justification to bring that up in a silly argument with friends.
Personal B claiming Ramona uses the show as an infomercial……. yet another hypocrite move…
I just cant anymore, she does my head in.
I should have read your comment prior to posting mine because I agree 100% and practically wrote the same thing.
It’s nice to see comments from people who have watched from the very beginning and can view the show from that context 🙂
On RHONJ, ever since Jackie complained that Melissa was not meeting her contract requires by not posting enough about Envy on her social media I have wondered if some of these women, Bethenny included, are required to mention their products X number of times on the show.
I think that bravo gets a percentage of the products that the ladies launch while on their show. I think this happened post-skinny girl though so I don’t think Bethany’s products are included in that.
Exactly. Thank you for your efforts in PR, Bethenny. But you’re still an asshole and always have been.
There’s always someone who says it so much better than me. I agree completely regarding your comments on being charitable. I ramble a lot before making my point. You wrote it much it more cleanly and clearly.
I love Luann..we all make our mistakes.
Luann was drunker than Moody’s goose at the dinner party scenes. I think the judge was fair when he told her to stop drinking and to get a lawyer. Felonies, her charges were felonies.
I don’t think she’s stopped drinking even now. I think she probably has stopped drinking on camera going forward.
I also found it interesting that during her squabble at Dorinda’s dinner she said Adam was nothing “because he was a boy from the Midwest”. Obviously she thinks she is far superior to much of the rest of the population- even though she now has a well deserved arrest record.
Yeah, that was really petty and bitter of Luann to say that about the Midwest. I lost a bit of love for her.
And isn’t it rewarding enough to see someone so joyously appreciate your gift. Bethenny was absolutely glowing with joy.
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I thought Bethenny looked like she was going to cry at the dinner table and that Carol acted pretty cold blooded. Carol seems done with Bethenny, for whatever reason, and I find Carol to be cruel and arrogant. Also, I think Bethenny physically and emotionally exhausted herself working so hard on her charitable work, so I don’t care what piece of real or faux etiquette she forgot to observe. Also, for Carol to “out” the Luann comment was low. I guess, despite her pink hat, when others go high, Carol goes low. It looks like the socialites, save for Luann, are all ganging up on Bethenny. And I did hear her thank Dorinda. And Ramona – you do NOT leave your dog in the NYC street while you stand on the sidewalk bitching your ego out, and your dog could be run over by any bicycler, taxi or car taking a fast inside track! Careless and selfish. And as for Luann’s arrest. Yes – It was tacky of Bravo to show it – but what I saw was the cops roughing her up when she asked them why she was being arrested. And the cops always accuse you of resisting arrest if you don’t just lie flat like a flounder, and they peg you with an administrative charge of some sort. Luann actually sounded kind of childlike to me. And Tinsley saying Luann “assaulted an officer” or words to that effect – and with such apparent glee? Despicable!
I heard Bethenny thank Dorinda too… profusely! She said something like “you saved Christmas for Brynn!” Isn’t that as authentic as “thank you for the nutcracker Dorinda”?
Yes, she did, and it’s obvious that she was ecstatic.
However, Two 2-word sentences that one can never say enough: I’m sorry and thank you. It’s not hard to say, so just say it.
If you read Bethanny’s blog it actually was the guy that did all the work. He drove four hours to pick up the thing and deliver it and he tracked it down too—Dorinda only put B in touch with the guy. I thought Dorinda deserved more recognition too before I read that but now I know who did all the legwork.
We all know he did the legwork, but he would NEVER have done so without Dorinda putting Bethenny in touch with him. Without Dorinda knowing this guy, Bethenny wouldn’t have gotten the nutcracker.
She thanked Dorinda……………what the hell did they want from her? Her next born child for fucks sake.
I thought she was saying all those things to the guy, not Dorinda. I dunno who did what to get the nutcracker (this word makes me smile to myself, I’m such a child), but if Dorinda was involved, Bethenny could havejust looked at her directly and said thank you. She didn’t as far as I could tell.
LuAnn not putting her legs in the patrol car was the problem. The cop repeatedly asked her. Yes, she should sit there quietly like a flounder and follow instructions at that point and not get out of handcuffs. She’s lucky she didn’t get tazed. Shame on her.
Again, Bethenny has attacked people relentlessly and cruelly on this show from year one. Has anyone watched the show from the beginning or the re-runs Bravo runs relentlessly or am I the only one bored enough to watch?
Carole does not have a reputation for attacking people. This is one of the few times another cast member has stood their ground with Bethenny. I hardly think Carole was cruel to her. I think this is becoming ridiculous, so black and white when there are good points on both sides. People are elevating it this huge drama that seems pitiful to me.
Ah….a Bethenny basher finally gets and in because TT criticized her and didn’t just give tons of atta girls for all the work she has done.
Bethany’s work has been amazing and much to be admired for. That goes for her success as well. No doubt she works hard and has earned her way to wealth. That being said, she is mean. She always has been. She can go very low. I do have to say Carole road those coattails for a long time though. Standing smirkingly by while she let Bethany deliver the blows. I don’t think either of them are particularly kind when it comes to one on one combat.
Many of these women hit below the belt and walk away. It’s quite disconcerting. Not many of the HW’s seem to take the Michelle O. approach of them going low and us going high. Sad, really.
Carole looks and acts like she is in a menopausal, mid-life crisis.
Still think something else is going on with Bethenny and Carole other than this whole Adam thing. Carole is being viscous, that friendship has sailed.
Sonja earned her apple tonight! Loved her scene with the contractor.
Ramona adds nothing to the show.
Watching the scenes with Dorinda, Carole, and Ramona make me uncomfortable. Dredges up too many memories from high school.
It’s bc she has a newer group of friends. Carole is turning into the worst type of mean girl but I guess if she keeps funding Adam she’ll stay relevant.
She looks like she’s menopausal mid life crisis? WTF?
Classic Sonjia I gotta love her she is real as real gets and the other women do not appreciate her for being true to herself.
Do you understand menopausal? Why is that insult used with such venom as though it’s a terrible thing to say about someone?
I am not a fan of Carole’s but I absolutely hate it when women are “accused” of being menopausal or even being “on the rag”. In this day and time the symptoms of menopause are well controlled, you would never tell from someone’s demeanor. Sometimes women are not hormonal, they are just pissed off.
Perhaps you should double up on your meds, then you wouldn’t see venom where there is none.
So menopausal is a compliment? Carole is only 45 and has never had a fun sparkling outlook on life
45? Are you sure.
I was thinking more like 54.
Closer to 54 for sure. I remember a few reunions ago, someone mentioned her age and she looked pissed. I can’t remember the exact age but it was over 50 and this was at least a couple of years ago.
“In this day and time the symptoms of menopause are well controlled” What day and time to you live in and how to I get there. In fact, I’ll charter a bus and bring as many menopausal women as I can fit in the bus with me. Your place and time sounds FABULOUS.
Pellets, Hormone replacement therapy are the big ones. Why avoid it?
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Because there are considerable side effects with those options. They are not suitable for everyone. BTW pellets and hormone replacement therapy are the same thing. Even bioidentical hormone replacement has a lot of situations where the treatment can increase cancer rates. Many women are not a candidate.
Menopausal symptoms are very different from person to person. For instance my oldest sister just sort of skated on through. My entire personality changed. My taste in food changed. My tolerance for bullshit changed. I think I cried an entire year over a traumatic childhood event. I have anxiety for no fucking reason. I used to love to shop. Like I was there first person in line for the day after Thanksgiving/Christmas sales. Loved crowds. Had no issue with having my photo taken. Now the stupidest things and no things at all cause panic attacks. My metabolism is extremely low. I went from being on the thin side to being big as a barn. I don’t want to be around people. Like ever. My brain doesn’t work right. When I type I substitute weird homophones for the word I am trying to type. Or I just leave the last letter or two off words. Paying bills seems like the hardest thing in the world even though I have more than enough money to pay them and the online process is very simple. Sometimes it takes me days to do the five minute process.
I can assure you that In this day and time the symptoms of menopause are NOT well controlled. If you have had positive results with treatment, I am happy for you. But some of us are white knuckling it, drinking copious amounts of wine and hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel.
And you can’t blame young women for thinking being menopausal is an insult. I used to joke about it as well. I assure you, I now understand, it’s no joking matter.
That fucking sucks. It’s seriously so hard to be a woman. I love us.
Estrogen has the same biochemical effect on the female braid as antidepressants. In order for your own body to create its own sex hormones it needs DHEA, which starts to decrease in your late 20’s–but wait, Walmart & Amazon sell it in nice little bottles for less than $8. I take 100 mg. daily + Premarin. I have not been depressed since 1987.
No no no no everybody. Onions are toxic to dogs. So are raisins, garlic, plums. Worth noting, even a dog who is not a punk can have an overdose or the toxins can build up in his system. PSA over.
I happened to catch a lot of season 3 this afternoon. I saw Ramona talking to Bethenny tonight and reminded me of the truly bad acting from Ramona and Alex in season 3. Does anyone remember when Jill dropped in on the island vacation? Alex was “shaking” while Ramona acted as though WWIII was upon her. Alex looked damn silly, so glad she is gone.
In season 3 Bethenny was brutal to Kelly and Jill. She was raging constantly. She led a pile up on both of them that season. I saw this with new eyes. Bethenny was not ever going to get enough apologies and groveling. She went away, came back and started picking housewives off every season. This season it’s Carole who seems to be holding her own. Now I am pushed, I do not want to be on Carole’s side but she has forced me.
Still waiting for Banjo to die, or even have a reaction. He’s eaten onions since i got him. He’s 80 pounds.
Ok, it will also take about 1.5 lbs of chocolate to kill him if he is that large. If he throws it up before he digests it, it should be ok
I have dogs of a size to be felled by an oz of chocolate or an onion ring
I raise my dogs to eat everything and have been for the past 25 years. They especially love chocolate!
They eat around the things that they don’t like, and I think that’s nature’s (or their immune system’s) way of protecting them.
I once had an au pair from Romania, and she was shocked when I told her “anything but chicken bones”. She laughed and said that Romanian dogs eat chicken bones all the time.
If any of you have lost a dog to due to eating some food, I’m sorry to hear that.
Don’t listen to any of this, talk to your vet, look it up. Research isn’t hard in this day and age. Taking advice to your au pair from Romania instead is animal abuse in this case.
chilll ma’am. let anaimlas be wild and free… and also let people be wild and free. if someone told me what to feed my child: like feeding my child mcdonalds is poison and child abuse… thats the next step you know… and we all know how horrible mcdonalds is for you.
do you understand my point? cause its not like the dog doesnt like chocolate
They can have raw chicken bones but not cooked chicken bones due to the splintering risk.
My 80lb Lab ate a box of grocery store brownies a few yrs back, didnt vomit anything back up and was fine. The Vet told me that its the dark chocolate that’s so bad.
Avacados are supposed to be a no-no as well…my other doggie stole one from my grocery bag and partially ate it, skin and all pit still intact . He’s fine.
I know you don’t like “downer” comments, but here’s some info about dogs and onions. I don’t think small amounts, once in a great while, will hurt him, but onions over a lengthy period of time apparently cause some kind of really bad anemia. I still have a lot of guilt because I used to cook chicken for my little dog, Zoey, all the time. I’d put carrots in it, and rice, and onions. Had no idea they were bad for her. When she was seven she became really ill, suddenly, and it was apparently because the onion caused oxidization of the hemoglobin in the red blood cells and the dog (or cat) then doesn’t get enough oxygen in their cells – hence the anemia. She didn’t recover. Anyway, glad he’s OK so far, but, as much as you love him, I’d cut out the onions in any form. Also, some breeds are apparently more susceptible than others, so he may truly be a tough little guy.
Onions are very toxic to dogs, not only kill him but effects their nervous sysyrm. You have been lucky with Banjo.
Exactly, stop with the onions even if he seems fine. Why chance it?
If he was throwing up then he was having a reaction…
I was really looking forward to the lectures about dogs eating onions. My dog loves rabbit turds.
Funny how dogs didn’t need gluten-free food until people starting thinking they needed it. Marketing genius.
Yes, I remember Scary Island!
Kelly was an asshole to Bethenny. She started the whole thing—telling her I don’t like you and I am up here and you’re down there and all the shit with the “you’re a cook not a chef” over and over again. Kelly deserved everything Bethanny dished out to her—but that’s just my opinion. Kelly was/is an absolute freaking nutjob. It’s so fun to rewatch these old seasons isn’t it !!
I could Not stand Kelly and the way people defended her horrible jealous behavior was not cool in my book, She had a hard on for Bethenny and thought she was #1 the world’s gift to men. I felt bad for her girls that woman has serious issues she was funny farm bound.
Then after she was fired she wrote a blog that Jewelry was stolen out of her car at the Beach and blamed Bethenny for it.That woman is a nut job. Then she had a rummage sale.
I’ve commented numerous times that I think Bethenny has been a raging bitch since she came on the show however, I don’t see that season AT ALL the same way. Jill came on that season gunning for Bethenny, “Bobby had cancer and you never called! He put food in your mouth!” Total BS. She talked badly about Bethenny to anyone who would listen, excluded her from events and even went to the press. Bethenny tried to patch things up all season. That’s when the tide of public approval turned against Jill and she lost her position as a fan favorite and people began to loathe her. With Kelly, Bethenny made a snarky comment when she and Kelly were at a charity function and Kelly was acting being incredibly pretentious. She apologized but Kelly wouldn’t let it go. “I’m up here, you’re down there” KELLY was a bitch on that boat and scary island. She was paranoid and delusional. She went after Bethenny, who was pregnant and had just lost her father, relentlessly. “You’re a cook not a chef” ridiculous bull-shit. Eventually they sent her home she was so nuts.
Carol is SO passive-aggressive. She’s in love with Adam…hence the new hairdo….clothes and selfies. Carol is angry because Bethenney said Adam is an operator. And I think B is right.
Carol is cold and detached. Bethenny direct and honest.
They’re oil and water. And I do think Carol is extremely jealous of Bethenny’s success. And also because of B’s being newsworthy. B has done so much for worthwhile causes.
Running in the Marathon was personal for Carol ( and also because Adam was in it ).
Bethenny is not in her charities for herself. Se really cares.
Can B be a little harsh and too direct in her delivery? Yes. But it’s out there in the open.
Whereas Ramona and Carol are sneaky and underhand.
Carol has deliberately befriended Tinsley to hurt B. Carol is calculated. No question. Carol cannot STAND that B is who she is. So jealous. And can’t let anyone twig onto her motive.
So..we have Carol bitching about not getting a tweet about her Marathon run. Please.
B is harsh in her assessments, but how, after Tom, could ANYONE doubt her radar when it comes to men for other people. (Her own? Not so much). I think the only one she adored was Bobby – never a word against him (and I think I read recently that Bobby loved her, that Jill asked him to make it right and he told Jill that he loved her, but she was wrong and SHE had to make it right. Bobby was a mensch.)
B is harsh and hypocritical in her assessments. I don’t think Tom is an indicator of ‘always getting in right’, I’m pretty sure every woman in NYC knew about Tom, not to mention her source sent her empirical evidence (photo of the crime)….
Although, I do think she’s right about old mate being an operator.
Exactly, . I admire B for her charity work but that doesn’t change the fact that she can be nasty. Carole l earned from the master. They are both cruel when they feel slighted.
Carole is very passive aggressive. I have to wonder if she was stoned in those scenes talking to Beth. She droned on and on in a monotone, then admitted in a TH that yes, she was waiting for an acknowledgement from Beth of her breakup with Adam. Beth tells us that she is holding back her real reason for her coolness with Carole, perhaps not wanting to put her on blast while filming. I do think that Adam is an operator, that Lu had a valid point about him being using of her niece. Also, Ramona flipping out during that phone call was everything. Her eyes were twirling, her entire body vibrating, crazy eyes indeed! I do not want to hear one word of derision for Lu from any of those drunk or drug using ladies. I hope that they all realize that it could have been any one of them in a bad situation when indulging. So happy that Lu has bounced back with her now national tour. BTW, every time they show Tins, it is somewhat of a shock, because i forget that she is part of the cast. Three cheers for Sonja for moving on with her life, she obviously found some gems in her closet while cleaning, she looks fabulous. She made some timeless purchases when she had money to burn. I love her style.
Gems or germs ? lol Might fine either in Sonja’s closet.
I hope that Banjo is feeling better. As a PSA for anyone who may not know, onions are a big no no for pups because like grapes or raisins, onions are toxic and can cause renal failure.
That had to be the saddest Chinese Christmas exchange that I have ever seen. It looked like everyone kept their gifts.
At about the 37 minute mark Bethenny sat beside Dorinda on the couch and said to her, “You saved Christmas” TWICE!
I thought that Ramona already had a skin care line. That episode from season or three was on today. Her TruRENewal line.
Now I know why Carol is so damn bitchy …she’s hungry!!! Not even 110? Isn’t she about five ‘six or so?
I’m really shocked that bravo is showing Luanne’s *malfunction*. I like Luanne and she has been humiliated enough with Tom.
But….I admit that I will be watching avidly. Not nice of me. However…I feel compassion for Luanne and am confident she will ride out the storm.
So glad it’s not me though……….
Shocked? Andy Cohen hates Lu. He may not have any production skills but they know how he feels.
Why does Andy Cohen hate Lu?
I can’t answer why Andy dislikes most housewives, just that he does. My guess would be he liked Luann w her ex-Contess title but he did not.
He has a big deal Christmas party where only 2 maybe 3 HW’s are invited.
Those scenes of Lu’s arrest were a bit strange. She was confused and discombobulated. Did this strange guy roofie her? Did the cops ever speak to the guy involved? I never want to be as scared as she was in those scenes, or in any situation like that, ever.
I don’t ever get emotional over the Housewives BUT when Bethenny was in PR, it definitely made me tear up. This week watching Lu get arrested made my heart sink a little too.
I’m in moderation again…I must be special. ?
I think its because WordPress is having an issue with my email address. Every time I try to like a comment it wants my email address or user name again. Now it says my email address isn’t valid
LOL, I’m always in moderation. Maybe it’s like a probation period?
It’s because of the apostrophe in your name. Except sometimes your comments go straight through. Slice O’Pie is stuck in perpetual moderation. I can’t figure out how to fix it. 🙁
Thanks Tamara. I’m going to change my name and see if that changes things.
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I’ve been over Carole since her first season when she made the politically correct and factually incorrect statement that the term American Indian is a slur. Girl, go cut your hair. (And you know you only cut it because Bethenny cut hers first.) I now believe the ghost writer thing about Carole.
I also thought Bethenny was very appreciative of Dorinda for securing the obscenely expensive and impossibly large for a NYC apartment nutcracker. We clearly hear Bethenny say “you saved Christmas Dorinda”. Dorinda should sober up and then stuff like that won’t get by her.
Ramona letting her dog pee all over the people sidewalks….is that really a thing in Manhattan?
I agree … it’s all filler until Luann gets her mugshot.
Hell, Ramona let her dog pee all over other people’s carpets!!! And defecate too. Very nonchalant.
I agree Bethenny did sound a bit jealous of Carole & Tinsley’s friendship. She should have donated to Carole’ s charity. I’m not going to bitch too much there because she has gone above and beyond for Puerto Rico. Yes, Bethenny was a little harsh with Ramona with the skin care infomercial comment, but Ramona has had her moments too. I just really did not get into this episode as much, and I like RHONY. The end though, w/the actual footage from Lu’s arrest & the judge’s comments… I did feel for her. It would have been bad enough for her that It happened period, but the footage being in the media, and now on the show…. it’s just one of those things that you know she feels like when does it stop, will I ever stop paying for this F up???
Ramona every season talked trash to Bethany or behind her back. Bethany calls her out, she mumbles something, behaves herself a few episodes and begibes her trash talk about Bethany again,
This!
Yes! her standing at the foot of the stairs (where she could see Bethenny approaching), “nicely” trying to get Carole riled up (Carole was on the staircase and couldn’t see B approaching) with “I know you two love each other….blah blah blah.”
Bethenny totally called her on it! Said it was staged. Ramona was hoping to get Carole to say something that would irritate B and get the drama going again.
I used to really like Carole but these last couple of episodes, it’s like she’s someone else and I don’t like whoever it is.
I just saw Carol as reaching.
Bethenny called out Carol being about herself when what she wasn’t that way before. So there might be a tad bit of Jealousy that Carol and Tinsley are friends and Bethenny feels left out when we are not around our friends move on.
Adam is a nerve for Carol and yes it is very very obvious that she is trying to make herself appear younger for her much younger guy. Ramona is a [email protected]@t I have really tried to like her over the years I just can not stand her, very dismissive and never lets anyone get out what they are trying to say.
Bethenny does need to acknowledge other people also and their accomplishments.I believe it would be benefit her friendships. Be Happy for other people.
I have seen a pattern of Ramona not being the kindest to Bethenny
Bethenny paid Carole’s way on several nice vacations before. This past summer Tinsley and her boyfriend went on several vacations with Carole and Adam.
Just some observations: With Tinsley (while dating Scott), Carole could be with a friend AND be with Adam. I don’t see Bethenny paying for Adam to go along with her and Carole on a trip.
Now that Adam is dating a new lady, I don’t know if Carole and Tinsley will be traveling together so much this coming summer if Tinsley is still with Scott.
I would think Bethanny would pay for a private jet and a boat to travel on. If Adam came on it, the cost would be the same with just some extra spent on food. Having him along would please her friend and not really cost much
Not necessarily, an additional person could add a considerable amount. I assume Bethenny has a Jet Card, the flight fee would be based upon the size of the jet and the number of hours flown. There is a considerable price difference between a jet that flies 4 and one that flies 8. Most yachts have a minimum weekly rate, with an additional rate increase for each additional 2 persons. Then for the yacht there is an expected tip of 15 – 20% of the total cost of the yacht.
I never thought I’d see the day when Ramona was almost the voice of reason. I was really proud of the way she spoke to Bethenny when she was walking and got a call from her. (Only problem I have is, how did they know Bethenny was going to call – so it was obviously pre-arranged). Anyway, Ramona was truly outraged and didn’t let Bethenny get away with her usual shit. Bethenny seems to have a permanent chip on her shoulder – nothing anyone says seems to please her, and right now Carole is the target. I did think Bethenny acted very happy when Dorinda gave her the fabulous Santa, although she didn’t give Dorinda direct credit for her sweet actions.
I would love to spend time in the Berkshires, especially Christmas, with all the snow – it looks absolutely gorgeous. A little over-decorated for me, but then I didn’t even get my tree up last year. Dorinda is the ultimate hostess, but when she reaches her limit, that’s it!
Sonja telling the repairmen that she had sex on the sink in the whatever room, was totally uncalled for. Does she constantly have to prove that she’s oozing sex appeal? This may get a little pathetic as she ages more. Still, I get a kick out of her.
I think the RHONY are, without a doubt, the best bunch of Housewives of any of the franchises. They’re interesting (unlike RHOC), actually do interesting things, and I do think that, even with all the squabbling, they have a certain degree of affection for each other.
I also thought it was sketchy of Bravo to show the footage of Luann’s arrest. I know she behaved badly, but did they really have to do that?
english rose u said it all. so spot on.
I saw Bethenny thank Dorinda and say “you saved Christmas” what more did she want? I think she was genuinely excited and got caught up in the moment.
Ramona’s gift of $8 beauty blenders (regifted) was tacky. She would have been better off giving a left over bottle of her wine.
I’m surprised Bethenny have a “throw” and it skinnygirl jeans or merch as she features in every other episode.
Dorindas hair and new hair color have looked exceptional this season.
She was almost in TEARS when she said to Dorinda. To a sober, sane person, that would have been SO FUCKING MUCH BETTER THAN A THANK YOU.
Yes, I was shocked that Dorinda was upset. “You saved Christmas!” was uttered 3 times. That is definitely B giving Dorinda credit and acknowledgment. If Dorinda is upset and complaining to others that the words were not “thank you”, then she is simply joining Team Carol and looking to participate in a gang up.
I usually love Dorinda’s hair, but the grayish/purplish color in the talking heads is not my favorite.
I also prefer Lu’s earlier haircut, not this newer, less layered look.
B sniping at Ramona about Ramona’s infomercial was hypocrisy at its finest, considering that B has used RHONY as a several season long platform for infomercials about myriad Skinny Girl products. Ramona only mentioned her skin care line in this scene – it’s not even like she gave everyone a swag bag like Bethenny has done. I don’t even mind when HWs occasionally do product placement, but there are limits, and B crossed that line several seasons ago. B does not support other women, and particularly not her peers on the show. She doesn’t often turn out for other people’s events, charity or otherwise (especially in the season when she first returned to the show), and she is openly critical of others’ accomplishments. She also is pretty cruel to people even when they’re down (Luann, Jules). Ramona is not a likable person on the show, but she definitely has a point.
It’s clear that Carol cared more about Adam than she let on, given that she kicked him out of her apartment and makes a point of saying they have “coffee” like they’re FWB. B made a common mistake of badmouthing someone else’s ex, which typically comes off like you’re trashing your friend’s judgment. The thing is, Adam DOES seem like an opportunist. And Carol IS boring and makes standing up for other people her story line, instead of being vulnerable on her own. She is cold, detached and elitist. One thing that she and B have in common is how cruel and cutting they are of others, even when they’re down.
Well said.Your comment just reminded me of when Bethenny first returned to the show (season 7 I think?) and Heather was introducing Yummy Jeans, Bethenny told Heather to just stick with one thing. Now we’ve seen skinnygirl jeans featured in several episodes.
When you’ve watched the veterans on this show ever since the first season, it’s hard to miss of their hypocrisy. It’s tough since I was Bethenny’s cheerleader seasons 1-3
She also was very dismissive of Kristin Taekman’s nail polish line. She is saving PR and doing more than the government. But she really shuts people down.
Ramona RECEIVED that shitty gift. I think it was Dorinda (maybe?) who had regifted it.
Ramona regifted a gift Dorinda gave her. Ramona has regifted before within the same circle of friends and LuAnn got the gift .
Just chiming in to say that Orange Roughy is nasty, at least in any manner I’ve prepared or been served it outside of a restaurant. Glad Banjo liked it – I’m sure my (95 pound) dog would, too. But that shit is not fit for human consumption, no offense, dogs.
OK.
As a single, childless woman, I am in essence Carole (except I’ve never been married). My very best friend (since we were 12) is married (to an amazing man) and has 3 kids (whom I adore).
My BFF is also someone who works hours and hours for a non-profit (unlike B, she’s paid. It is her job). She and her hubby manage to be there for the kids, not needing daycare, and maintaining all their activities, schedules, etc. She is as focused on her kids as Bethenny is on her daughter.
Here is the thing – she is so busy that sometimes she forgets that she HASN’T told me something. I’m very active in a non profit. Her hubby is better at “liking” my posts regarding that than she is on social media. I suck at sharing posts from the non-profit she works for. We know that our time and money goes towards our own nonprofits, and we don’t hold it against each other.
She also is so busy that she sometimes thinks she has told me something when we are finally on the phone with each other (after weeks of maybe just the occasional text). I have to stop her and say “what are you talking about?” OR I sometimes pretend I know what she is talking about. LOL.
I don’t fucking hold it against her because I know how busy she is, and she isn’t flying to a devastated area like Puerto Rico. If Carole would actually think about what she actually experienced as a journalist, she would know that B is in a different head space. She would appreciate the attention and focus that B also is managing to give to her daughter. (for my friends’ kids I expect nothing less! I love those kids!)
Also, I followed Carole on Instagram until recently. It was fucking full of ads, promotions, etc.
The charity that she was running for? Beth Stern’s favorite animal shelter if I am not mistaken. Beth helped Andy find Wacha, if I remember right. I KNOW FOR A FACT that BETHENNY got her two new dogs, Biggie and Smalls, from Beth directly and I bet that B gave a donation. She’s given them publicity too! I think Carole’s dog is adorable and I don’t judge people who choose to get a dog from a responsible breeder – but Carole has a goldendoodle. My friends got one for their first dog, and those new “breeds” are NOT RESCUES IN THE LEAST. She probably paid close to a thousand for it. She certainly shopped, didn’t adopt.
This.
Exactly this.
Additionally, Dorinda does look awesome this season and B definitely said that she saved Christmas at least three times.
I find Ramona too happy at the breakdown of Carole and B’s friendship. It is an ugly side of her.
This season is simply sad, like they are gleeful at the strife, and that is sad.
Those are not breeds, it’s just a name. The reason is that characteristics, temperament and health can’t be predicted. One isn’t like another. A Yorkie poo may be anxious and yappy or intelligent and calm. Yorkie’s are vermin hunters, poodles are water dogs. That particular combination makes no sense.
I cannot for the life of me see why people pay thousands for mixed breed dogs. Rescue is more responsible and if you are patient you may find exactly what you want. You can also find purebred dogs in rescue if that’s what you want. Single breed rescues in every state. Usually 3 to 4 months after Christmas rescues and shelters are overrun by the Christmas toys that kids no longer want.
Responsible breeders a few and far between. Adoption is better than Shopping.
When I repeat this info the owners of the malti-poos and labradoodle come down on me like a ton of bricks. Don’t bother, I will be unmoved even if Princess Radziwill has one.
Sorry, I support pet adoption and feel bound to say so. I understand it’s preachy
Ericka you rock and I just loved your comment from another view
.Sorry My personal opinion is Carol is all about Carol.
She is trying to get back her youth and I find zero attractive about her and I am not cutting on her looks.I find her a ugly person inside nothing to do with the outside.just to make that clear.
When I was single with no children my married friends knew I would be there for them at the drop of a hat they were my family and made me feel a part of their’s.
Carol doesn’t seem to want to be a big part of Bethenny’s life except on camera,yeah when they first started hangin they Vaca’d after filming. Bet Bethenny paid.
Carol did the marathon to impress Adam to get closer to him and have something in common with him after they broke up .
Carol is after Bethenny for even questioning Carol and Adam as a couple .I agree I believe Adam is an operator as TT said see next season. Carol is good for taking him on vacation.
If she would of allowed him to stay at her place he would of been with her still and she probably never would of ran and just wrote a check to her friend’s charity.
I can’t stand how the NY women interrupt each other so much. They don’t let a person get three words out before they jump in and start talking–so no one ever gets to finish the point they’re trying to make. Bethenny is especially bad about it, but others do it too. Bethenny and Carole were both doing it in the opening scene.
I thought Luann looked awful in that scene, how she kept jumping in to make ugly comments about Adam. She spat out that he is just “a boy from the Midwest,” letting us know she thinks that is a big insult. How arrogant!
I thought Bethenny was wrong to criticize Ramona for doing an “infomercial” when Ramona briefly mentioned she was doing a skin-care line–because who has done more infomercials about their products than Bethenny?? But near the end when Bethenny phoned Ramona, I thought Ramona looked terrible in that conversation. Again, she kept interrupting and not letting Bethenny speak. Ramona is clearly jealous of Bethenny’s success and has often tried to present herself as just as smart (she is not).
I feel like so many of the NY ladies’ disagreements could be cleared up if they would just let each other speak, instead of being so quick to interrupt. Also, they say someone is “lying,” when really they should just say the person is “mistaken.” Carole said that about Bethenny tonight (I think regarding whether B had told C about asking Adam to help with the hurricane). It’s a lot less incendiary to tell your friend, “I believe you’re mistaken about that. You never mentioned it to me, though you might have intended to” than to say, “You’re lying! You never told me that!”
Also, this is my comment I never got around to making last week, but it is clear that Carole is upset at Bethenny, not because Bethenny contacted Adam herself (or via her assistant) instead of going through Carole, but because she doesn’t like that Bethenny is impugning him because he didn’t/couldn’t volunteer a week or more of his time. It’s not that Carole thinks B violated some girl code by asking him directly–it’s that Bethenny is faulting him for not volunteering. Carole wants to defend Adam’s name.
Carole needs to let it go that Bethenny didn’t congratulate her sufficiently about the marathon. Dorinda needs to let it go that Bethenny didn’t “thank” her about the nutcracker. B was clearly thrilled and told Dorinda she was awesome (or something like that) and told her she saved Christmas. I guess Dorinda was bothered that Bethenny hugged the guy who brought it and directed attention toward him, but B clearly acknowledged Dorinda also. Either way, don’t get in a snit about that.
It really is amazing to me how much happier I am in my life than these women (and other Housewives) are in their lives. They have money and glamor and fancy homes, but I have happiness. They are petty and competitive and miserable. Don’t pick petty fights with your friends!
OK, I just rewatched the nutcracker delivery scene, and I realized it was Carole (not Bethenny) who said, “Dorinda, you’re amazing.” And Michael, the guy who delivered it, said, “I saved Christmas.” Then Bethenny echoes, “He saved Christmas.” She gives him several hugs and thanks. Only when she sits down does she say to Dorinda, “You saved Christmas.” So Bethenny could have acknowledged Dorinda more, but still, she was clearly excited and appreciative–she just directed it toward the guy who walked in with the nutcracker.
Like I said.
Bethenny also said to Dorinda, “we’ll call you Mrs. Christmas”
Maybe Dorinda will feel differently now that she’s watched it back.
interrupting IS conversation in NY. I am originally from California where that habit/problem does not exist at the NY level. It used to bother me so much and then I realized I do it now, too. ?
As Bethenny and Carol was fighting I thought about how yesterday morning I watched RHONY Season 3 before going to work.
Season 3 episode 5 is where Jill(with Luann as her audience and cheering her on) told Bethenny they were done and in my view as a viewer back then Jill’s reason was petty. Well fast forward years later to last night’s episode we see Bethenny fighting with Carol (a close friend to her like Bethenny used to be with Jill Seasons 1-3) and in my opinion Bethenny’s reasons for being upset with Carol are petty. It’s sad to see history repeating and Bethenny being the Jill in this situation.
Until the Berkshires, I don’t think Bethenny and Carole were overly upset with each other. Carole went to far by calling Bethenny a liar and repeating on camera private conversations. Last night she called her a narcissist. (I realize many of you believe Bethenny is a narcissist, that’s not the point.)
Carol seemed unaware of all that Bethenny had said about her until the Berkshires when Dorinda told her. As a viewer I’ve only seen B make passive-aggressive remarks about Carole from the premier episode. Well, the premier episode I took Bethenny’s comments as a joke until they continued. Ramona kept trying to clue Carol in but Carol thought the friendship was solid and even stood up for Bethenny to Ramona about the puppet comment.
“I’ve said shit about everyone here… I don’t expect my friends to bring it up” – that just about sums up Bethenny for me. She was so squirmish this episode as her BS boiled to the surface, it was comical to say the least.
Dorinda’s Berkshires home is as gorgeous as ever. I hope if she ever leaves she’ll always come back to do a cameo at Christmas! ??
Totally agree.
Betthenny accusing Ramona of doing an infomercial at the gift exchange. Bwahaha.
I haven’t read through all the comments so perhaps someone already told you but onions are toxic to dogs.
There is nothing more real than getting arrested ( I was years ago for a dwi and boy did that straighten me out). Luann signed up for a reality show and if they didn’t show the footage, the audience would complain. People love a come back story and Luann is it! She looks amazing now. She looked so bloated in the Berkshires and now looks 20 lbs lighter and much more clear eyed.
I think when Bethenny said ” You’re acting like a 7 year old , act like an adult” is really the problem with their relationship. Carole had no real responsibilities other than filming. She admitted to sleeping till noon etc and I think that is so polar opposite to Bethenny. Bethanny’s work in Purto Rico is amazing.
Carole made such a big deal about never calling Adam her boyfriend , i.e. they were shacking up not living together, now when they broke up she referred to him as her boyfriend.
I think Carole is very stuck and yes she looks sad, Bethenny just looks exausted.
she also said i know u want to look 45. b just had to get her mean jabs in. always has to come out on top.
a definite flaw in her personality. she is truly self-centered; but also deeply scarred.
i mean she said i know u want to be 45, stop acting like you are 7.
So last night Carole had some sad Instagram live going while the show was on w/ her widow BFF that had like 20-30 ppl watching until she put her friend’s new girlfriend Samantha Ronson on camera then it jumped to around 500ish. Now she’s asking on Twitter what she should blog about. She’s turned into pretty much everything B said about her…
Ok, I’m going to go out on a limb and say what I really think is going on with Carole at the risk of be called judggy-
Carole has an eating disorder ( I think bulimia) and it is like an addiction. Adam and these past boyfriends aren’t serious so they don’t threaten her addiction and she can continue on with it. She’ll never have a serious boyfriend because her disorder comes first. I think Bethenny realized how serious it is and it triggers her because she has said in the past that her mother had it, and it makes her beyond upset and mad. That’s what I really think is going on with them. I could be totally wrong though.
Will said, I absolutely agree. What was the anorexic woman’s name who was on for one season who always was talking about Judaism? When Bethenny brought up her weight I remember thinking Carol was happy the focus was taken off her. “If I confront an anorexic I can’t possibly be one myself.”
That was Jules.
I don’t think you are wrong. Carole is eating disordered. There is a lot of anger inside Carole as well.
I agree that she has an eating disorder. She has odd control issues with food.That whole big drama about not letting her hard boiled egg touch her scrambled egg???????????????
I have started noticing her chewing with her mouth open a lot. I never noticed before. Maybe she is being edited to that, but it makes me wonder if she is counting her chews like anorexics do (same number each time, equal number on each side of the mouth). It was just so slow and methodical, not joyful eating.
I might be alone here, but I thought Bethenny’s comment about the infomercial was just a little joke. I thought it was funny and would laugh if a friend said that me. She was smiling and obviously being playful.
Ramona is just disgusting. That phone call did not warrant the reaction she gave it. Then to say how sad she is about Bethenny and Carol with a smile on her face made me want to puke. Does she even have a soul?
Ramona is the onions to my puppy stomach haha
I felt the same way. She finally has enough ppl to be against B with so she’s running with it.
Not to mention Ramona was on WWHL recently and Andy asked about her hair then she IMMEDIATELY pulled out the face cream and did another infomercial ?
Plus she put the cream on him without really asking!!
(That is a fucking pet peeve of mine. I have allergies. I get hives. I have asthma. Those people in the mall that aggressively do that piss me off…. you have allergies? this is natural. What I am allergic to is “natural” you dumbass! )
Karen- are you familiar with eating disorders? There are several signs that point to either bulimia or anorexia. Bulimia is not easy to hide. Carole has been with these women for several days at a time. I would think that somewhere along the way suspicions would arise. Bethany would have noticed the signs. I don’t think Carole has bulimia or anorexia. Carole is very thin, however from what I’ve seen she has been that thin since she began RHONY. I do think that whatever issues Bethany and Carole have going on run deeper than what we’ve seen. I don’t think we will ever know the root of the problem.
Yes I am familiar with eating disorders and Carole has some examples of it including being low energy (which she admitted to)
My friend hid her bulimia very skillfully from her family , husband and three kids, for years. Just saying she has something going on and it’s not just “being a chill girl”. Her collar bone jutting out of her shirt at her friends office was quite noticeable as well.
Being low energy could be an eating disorder or any other thing in the world. It is like fatigue or a headache, they are symptoms of thousands of illnesses or conditions. I am low energy and fat. My low energy is due to an iron deficiency. If we are diagnosing someone with an eating disorder off of low energy, our Dr. Google licenses are about to be revoked. She could be thinner because she ran a marathon which would cause weight loss due to extreme calorie burn. She could be thinner because she is going through a break-up. She could be thin or thinner than usual because of MANY things. As an aside, I had a roommate who was bulimic. She thought she was hiding it but she wasn’t. We all knew and so did her family. Granted it would not be hard to hide from the cameras or friends who see you once in a while.
“She thought she was hiding it but she wasn’t. We all knew and so did her family. Granted it would not be hard to hide from the cameras or friends who see you once in a while.”
As a former hospitality professional and restaurant owner, I love everything about food and most of my close friends throughout the years have been as into food as I am. In my 72 yrs. on the planet I’ve only ever met one person who might have had an eating disorder and, when I met her in ’71, I’d never even heard of eating disorders.
I’d been traveling around Europe and the Middle East for a little over a year and had really packed on the pounds, most of them during the time I lived on a kibbutz where there were five scheduled meals a day. So, I stopped in Baden Baden to visit a couple who were friends of my ex and one day Barbara baked a ham pie which was so delicious that I wanted to eat the whole damn thing. All my life I’d been called “skinny”, a word I hate, but in that year I’d gained 40 lbs. so I was trying to get a handle on my appetite. Barbara suggested I stick my finger down my throat and then I could continue eating. I was incredulous but I wanted more of that damn pie and, even though I’d never heard of anything so absurd, I decided to give it a whirl. I could not, however, force myself to throw up, because, as much as I love food, I hate throwing up. Though, I probably ate more ham pie as a reward for actually trying.
We lost touch in the intervening years but about 5 yrs. ago I somehow ended up speaking to her ex-husband on the phone and while sharing memories and laughs, I brought it up. In the interim I’d learned about eating disorders and assumed that he’d known Barbara did that because they were married for 15 or so years. He’d had no idea and was completely shocked, so I felt bad about revealing that.
He is a little out there so it’s possible he was just a particularly inattentive husband. As I said, that’s been my only exposure to anything that sounds like an eating disorder.
Yikes! I hate barfing too, like, I avoid at all costs! Interesting story though, thanks for sharing.
As a bigger sized woman it took me a long time to understand and feel comfortable in my body, still have the occasional day… tall and have big hands, feet etc, most women friends and a lot of male friends have smaller parts than me. When they weigh 30-50lbs less on average I personally struggled with that wgt. number game. I can honestly say I’d rather not be able to give blood because I’d been to Mexico then say I’m underweight!
I think Carole takes pride in her thin body. Her choice, I assume there are men that like that, we come in all shapes and sizes and we seem to be attractive (physically) to someone even when we don’t understand why? This is where “the whole package” comes into play. In my belief we are who we are, that’s what makes us beautiful in the eye of the beholder. Personality, opinions, heart, goals, failures, successes and so on make the person someone befriends/lovers fall in love with. Not the outward body. Initial physical attraction aside. There has to be sustainable interaction in the development of a relationship.
I love your words Kipper, I have always been a confident person….until I started working in a medical office full of women, (now I realize how insecure they really were) Every morning several of them would rush to the scale to weigh themselves, (skinny chicks) and then announce to everyone how fat they are, because they are 2-5 pounds heavier than they feel they should be! I’m 5″ 9 and I have always weighed between 160 to 220. I found myself trying to comfort them because they felt so “horrible”, and in return they would tell me, you carry your weight so good…? what the F__K ever! I got promoted, got raises, employee of the month, not because of how I looked, but because I actually could do my job well,they stayed stuck on STUPID…caring more about fashion, weight, and relationships. That stuff doesn’t go far in the medical field. Anyway, fast forward 30 years, I am now retired, yes, I was fortunate to retire at 50, I am married to the hottest guy in town, very loving, careing, kind, and gentle person!
The point of this is, my successes in life have been because of who I am, and how I present myself, nothing to do with my weight. I haven’t weighed myself in over 20 years, but I can say I am a healthy HAPPY Chubby Chick!!
I need some ice cream…Oh and ?…I don’t care if it’s 10:30 am ?
Cheers TT homies
That ham pie must’ve been delicious if you were willing to puke to have more!! I hope you did have more anyway and I’m glad you didn’t fall down that rabbit hole.
Having had friends do similar things, I know where you are coming from!
100% I fucking hate Ramona! Everything she says or does grates on me, and I’m noticing her voice even more, the strange pauses she takes, arrrg, makes me want to pull my ears off!
The situation Luann found herself in is awful, i really do feel for her, cant wait for her comeback for these bitches.
Sonja keeps forgetting that she is no longer 25 years old. Her comments to her contractor were horrifying and shit no one wants to hear.
I feel really bad for LuAnne. What a shitty time in her life.
TT, book the damn vacation girl! Pack the dog up and GO!!
I found the whole episode rather disconcerting. Beth was frenetic, almost frantic, half the time. She was needlessly mean about Ramona, but I got the sense that she could not control her mouth — she was talking non-stop.
I will never like Carol. Beth was right on about Carol wanting to be young with hair, make up, new clothes (she can wear just about anything but I think she needs a stylist–her taste does not always flatter her) and it clearly has to do with Adam. Just like the marathon, which is why she needed so many accolades IMO.
Lu was a mess before the end, which was completely gratuitous. Andy is a dick. But before that night she seemed to be scattered and kind of crazy.
Will I ever stop being shocked at what Sonja says on camera? “Lady” Morgan she is not.
As an aside, I don’t know why people feel entitled, if not compelled, to give unsolicited advice about animals (and children). Or why they feel it’s appropriate to repeat the same advice given multiple times. I see it all over IG and FB.
Karen- I completely understand what you are saying. Eating disorders can go in cycles so maybe while they are filming if Carole does have an issue she is able to not engage in the behavior . I hope your friend is doing better. Your friend is lucky to have have someone supportive like you in her corner.
I’m Team B. You don’t burn a friend by revealing private conversations on mad day. No wonder B feels betrayed. And I thought Adam was just an FWB? Carole is defending him like a decades married wife. Bethenny is naturally brusque and owns it. Carole comes across as very Bitter Betty to me.. Got Damn it ain’t that deep, miscommunications and bruised feelings. Hardly fatal. Both should just drop it and start fresh.
Carole changes her look and personality with each new bff she gloms onto. Bethenny works my last nerve but she’s right. The Tinsley version of Carole is her most artificial yet. She & The Tins are reliving Tinsley’s society days, flitting all over the world on Scott’s dime. I give their friendship another year or two before Carole finds (becomes) someone new.
Exactly!!
I don’t know that Tinsley would want Carole along without Adam when she vacations with Scott. It makes them a threesome which is awkward…if the couple wants alone time or a romantic dinner, that leaves Carole on her own.
Sonja – makes me a little sad. She used to a fun character and over the last three seasons has become a sh*t stirrer and bitter. This was one of her better episodes.
Luann – she loved hard and took a very hard fall when things ended. An excellent example there is life after love and arrests.
Ramona – not the nicest of girls (former seasons or now). Very sad to see the end of her and Mario but she looks like she has letting go.
Tinsley – happy she has found her way back to Scott; it looks like she has very real feelings for him and not just his $
Dorinda – a character I have loved and she has goodness in her. For example, when she left the room and told B and Carole they can fix this.
B and Carole – truly a sad thing to see their friendship explode the way it did. There is three sides to the story (the two sides and the truth) and somewhere the story of the friendship ended. Carole’s blogs do not look they have made up.
For the love of God. Banjo gets stuff with onions in it all the time. He’s 80 pounds. There is plenty of room for error with him. He’s real dog, not one of those wimpy little teacup things. It’s a miracle that dogs aren’t an endangered species with all of these dire rules for what dogs can and can’t eat these days.
As for Romania, it is over run with strays who seemed well enough to me when I went there. Somehow they managed to decide for themselves what to eat or not eat.
In general, Banjo eats a grain free diet and only dogfood with lamb or fish proteins. The actual dogfood is the thing you should worry about if you are the worrying kind. No poultry at all unless you cook it yourself.
Now for the love of God can we quit talking about the diets of dogs? It seems like it was a more interesting topic than last night’s episode though. I usually love the Berkshires episodes, but it seems to me like they have decided to make that trip a screaming match every year now since the first one got such good ratings.
Sorry , I found I could not. I am happy Banjo has a good diet. You don’t know if the Romanian dogs are ill or how long they live. The French, Germans, Dutch and English are more likely to treat a dog well.
I currently have little fru fru dogs but at the end of the day they are dogs like all others. The plus side is that they are so easy to travel with, almost everyone welcomes them?
I didn’t know that you should only give dogs poultry home cooked. I wonder if that is why my Wheaton died. I have also been giving my Golden Costco cooked chicken along with is grain free diet with lamb. Thanks Tamara for the heads up.
That’s just a choice I made for Banjo, Cheryle. I am on a mailing list for dog food recalls. Nearly all of them are for poultry products, especially the snacks. I don’t buy Banjo any premade snacks at all any more. His treat today was a couple of French Fries. He’s eat the whole order if I let him but that’s too much salt.
Plenty of people feed their pets food made with chicken and the dogs are just fine. I just got with lamb or fish. He seems to like it.
Luann is no snowflake. She has owned up to what happened, she knows everyone has seen and is not making excuses. I am not sure Tinsley even knows what she did that was wrong. Sonja pretends she doesn’t have a DUI
Bethenny and Carole: Bethenny put it out there that she does not have a lot of friends. She saw Carole and Tinsley getting close and maybe Bethenny felt hurt by that. She’s thrown herself into the Puerto Rico relief and that fills a void, perhaps? Carole definitely didn’t like Bethenny calling Adam an operator. She probably hates it more that Bethenny is correct. Carole seems mean when dealing with Bethenny while Bethenny appears hurt. That’s just my take.
I agree with you Lo, to me Bethenny seemed taken aback. I think they’ve shared real girlfriend secrets and now what was considered sacred (as true friend) is being used against B. Not a wise move as a friend least of all a “friend” on any HW program. Umm wondering who’d be clever enough to go to bat with Bethenny (TT for sure )? She was obviously dumbfounded when Carole started in on her.
Carole appeared to think things may be off but not broken at all until the “pre game” supper w/Dorinda and Ramona. She apparently doesn’t have her own voice, is bending to others and their opinions…what is her opinion/complaint/voice? I’m still confused about why Carole is mad.
I’ve always liked Carole. Just disappointed that when she really stood up for herself…..It wasn’t for herself. It was all about the character of her non-boyfriend boyfriend. Her non-relationship relationship. I had a long non-relationship with a guy I stood up for. The problem was that ever time I self-righteously took up for him, he turned out to be guilty of everything my friends said about him. I’m sure Adam is a nice guy but he’s moved on.
I don’t get why Carol is so unwilling to accept she’s changed some. We all change it’s part of life and it’s ok. Sometimes we regress a little and that’s ok too. When B said she’s more into girl stuff and selfies her knee jerk was to say you’re the queen of social media. That may be true but, it’s not a new thing. And I don’t think B was saying that it’s bad she’s into that stuff just different and it’s part of why they’re not on the same page at the moment. If someone who knows me well tells me I’m acting different I’ll think about it. It’s seems self unaware to me to say I’m the same person I’ve always been. Well, yeah and no.
Ramona may be nuts, but everything she says about Bethenny is true. Bethenny is competitive as hell and if she’s not the best then she’s not having it. In my opinion, That’s why she was such a bitch to Luann when Luann had a husband. Once they broke up Bethenny was nicer because Luann no longer had something she didn’t.
Tinsley bores me to tears and adds nothing to the show. Jules was way more entertaining and was let go but they kept Tinsley? Makes no sense.
I’m so glad Carole and Bethenny are at odds. They were obnoxious together, and I’m so entertained watching them go toe to toe because they’re both intelligent and can handle themselves well against one another. Even though I can’t stand Carole, I do have to give this round to her. She had Bethenny on the ropes and running away as usual. When Bethenny is the one getting the verbal lashing she’s usually giving to others, she can’t handle it. With all that said, Bethenny is still the most entertaining one on the show. I always pay attention when she, Dorinda, Ramona, or Luann are on the screen. If Carole, Tinsley, or Sonja are on by themselves, I just tune out.
Question please. Do we know the blood alcohol level of Luann when she was arrested? Thanking you in advance.
The fight between Carole and Bethany reminds me of when Ramona was on Brooklyn Bridge with Bethany. Ramona told Bethany that she would ruin her relationship with Jason? as she ruins all her relationships. I am no fan of Carole, but I am sad for the demise of their relationship. Now that they are not friends anymore, can Carole go now please?
My Hulu wasn’t working yesterday so I chose a random RHONY episode to watch. It was Episode 1 from Season 2. The difference is amazing. The film quality is so poor. Everyone was sunburned in their talking heads. Hair a mess. Without a lot of makeup. Constant flash forwards to Simon saying “I can feel the heat” during his creepy massage session. Simon and Alex chilling in an inflatable pool in their backyard. No wonder this show became popular. It is amazing.
Yes! When I’m trying to decompress from the day, I also will watch my favorite episodes mostly of NY and some on Atlanta on Hulu every once in a while. Ramona is as abrasive as Brillo but she’s right. She called it on the bridge and now. And on Andy, she said B is just too difficult. I appreciate her charitable work, but her wealth has just amplified all she had going on before. She does give great tv. Wish they’d bring Jill back as a friend to the show.
I don’t know, if you’re a real friend you don’t jump to the end a new situation or that case a new exciting relationship, assume a poor outcome and then proceed to blame that imaginary poor future outcome on your friend or even aquaintance? Just not nice, just mean for mean sakes. That may make for good tv but for all of Bethenny’s so called faults she is extremely sensitive. Bethenny is smart as a whip and doesn’t forget a thing. Ramona has few redeeming qualities and I do believe she regretted/apologized too but in that one interaction I saw Ramona very clearly. I understand that at times these women have formed real attachments and have attempted to establish true friendships but these women aren’t “picked” to be friends…I could mutter on a bit but you all get my gist.
I hope all of these ladies have someone they can truly trust and confide in the, good, bad, ugly, right, wrong, sad, happy, etc., and get honest, caring and non judgemental feedback and support. I hope that they are that person to someone too.
Very true Kipper. I really dislike Ramona, she is very spiteful, what she did on the bridge those years ago showed her true self.
How is it proven that Adam is an operator? I don’t doubt this, but I’m curious how it’s proven.
NY is my favorite and I’m loving this season. Sad to see B and Carole at odds. I think Carole having Tinsley made her less tolerant to B’s abrasiveness, and B is being defensive because she’s upset. Luann had the line of the show “lay low, dick”. I still have no idea why she married Tom. I see Sonja, who I always loved, in a new light after abandoning her animals out of sheer laziness because her interns wouldn’t be taking care of them. But, she gives good tv. She’s freakin hilarious. Ramona owned B at the end, almost getting her dog hit in the bargain. Can’t wait until next week.