Most of you have probably seen Roseanne Barr’s tweets from time to time. Much like Donald Trump’s tweets they are unavoidable if your follow a broad range of people on Twitter. They are both horrendous, racist, and misogynist.
Today’s targets for Roseanne included muslims, jews, Chelsea Clinton (one of her favorite targets) and Valerie Jarrett. Jarrett was one of Obama’s closest advisers during his term in the White House.
There was other stuff about Muslims and Islam on her timeline today. I suppose that evens out the photos of her dressed as Hitler holding a pan of burnt gingerbread men in front of an oven. Roseanne hates pretty much everyone except her hero, the current POTUS. They have a lot in common.
The thing is Roseanne is on ABC. ABC is owned by Disney. ABC is the most “family friendly” show of the four major over the air networks. Disney is not happy. It only took them a few hours to cancel the whole damn show.
Roseanne has had some mental health issues in the past. Perhaps she needs some help with her issues. But never fear Trump supporters, the racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, hateful core of the Trump supporters is going nuts on Twitter over the injustice of it all. What about free speech? This is unfair! Much like Trump these supporters don’t understand the constitution. Roseanne still has the freedom to say all the horrible things that come out of her mouth. That is guaranteed her by the constitution. What she is not guaranteed is the right to hate speech without consequences. Her consequences were swift.
At last check, she had not left Twitter.
She can suck every dick in hell. The end. Thank you for this, lady.
That tweet is awful. What was she even thinking?
She wasn’t thinking! That’s the problem.
She was saying what she TRULY thinks……..
and she has lost all desire to work in television, ever.
Crap show anyway.
I’m thankful to ABC for doing the right thing and cancelling this shitshow. I do feel sorry for some of her cast mates but they had to know they were making a deal with the devil.
Absolutely! I stopped watching the minute I realized her alignment with POTUS. I love it when a corporation can act swiftly and appropriately.
This was gutsy of ABC. Roseanne was an incredibly popular show and a cash cow. Like other corporations cutting ties with the NRA, this is a bold move and one that I’m happy to see. Capitalism is great and so is our constitution, but I agree with Tamara: there are consequences when you use free speech to perpetrate hate speech.
Funny how it is only hate speech when it comes from a conservative/right-winged person. Do you people even watch Jimmy Fallon? The View? They are the most hate-spewing liberalist pis shows out there! Oh, but I guess it’s ok b/c it’s against the POTUS & conservatives! #doublestandards
The potus is a POS so all bets are off. He’s a disgusting piece of filth. Whoever thinks otherwise is the same.
You’ve got that right. Joy Behar’s comments have been on the air–in the ABC programming. Jimmy Kimmel has behaved very “un-Disney-like” also on the air. Roseanne’s comments weren’t even aired by ABC yet they cancelled her show.
This was an attack on conservatism and/or anyone who supports the POTUS.
What Roseanne tweeted was wrong. But, ABC’s reaction is not even-handed.
You really believe that? No, really?
What she did was cross the racism line. She’s been firing off right wing conspiracy theories for years now with no consequence, including during the first season of her show. Trufax.
But people love feeling persecuted, don’t they? The POTUS is very good at exploiting that. Pointing fingers is getting us nowhere. It’s paralyzed Congress for a decade now.
Disagreeing with or making fun of Donald Trump does not equal hate speech, even if it’s on every channel. I don’t understand the disconnect on this.
But, seriously, how many times can you listen to DJT talking about crowd and hand size? Did anybody think he was a genius before he ran? I don’t get it. You know he used to be a Democrat, right? That’s not a dirty word nor a defect, either.
Comedians and talk show hosts have criticized EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT we’ve ever had. That is one of the freedoms we have in this country. This is the first president who whines about it and demands apologizes while talking about shit hole countries and Fake News.
Roseanne made a misogynist racist tweet about another woman. She’s repeatedly insulted Muslims and Jews. These are not acceptable things in this society.
TT, after reading these comments & your VERY liberal views & bashing of our POTUS, I will no longer be coming to your page. I know you couldn’t care less, but I find it sad that this page was once fun. Now its just more liberal hate-spewing shit. Bye.
I believe if Joy Behar or Jimmy Kimmel implied an ethnic minority resembled an ape she would be fired. This isn’t liberal vs conservative, IMO. It’s just racist.
Thanks to Roseanne, 100 people lost their jobs today.
Exactly. When she was merely spewing her disgraceful bile on her private Twitter page, that’s one thing. When she does is with zero care for the impact on her cast and crew’s livelihoods, it’s a horse of an entirely different colour.
She commented that she was leaving twitter and her talent agency just dropped her
She’s done
She has been beyond words for a long time. ABC did the right thing.
I am so angry – I supported the return of her show! the writers are award winning. Don’t blame Wanda Sykes one bit for leaving.
Sux that she fucked it up for the cast/writers/producers – that is $$$ outta their pockets!
Glad she’s gone – I won’t miss her
A woman I’ve worked with for years, who is now a friend, her husband writes for Wanda. I’ve had the pleasure of talking to Wanda at some of her functions over the years, she is no shrinking violet! She is also a wonderful, thoughtful and naturally funny person.
Right on Wanda!
lawstangel – that is so cool!
Seeing Wanda’s stand up – is on my bucket list!
I live outside of LA and my BF surprise me with tickets to see Wanda live. Like a year ago. She was hilarious!! A must see. It was for her most recently epix special
Funny enough, I have never seen her stand up in person…..partially because her last few specials were taped outside of Los Angeles. It’s on my bucket list as well!!!
How very cool! I’m so happy to hear that she’s as great as she seems to be. Talented woman and a good role model.
Exactly! I liked the reboot and thought she would eventually chill out on bringing politics onto her show. I’m disgusted that I ever supported this bigot’s return to tv. The fact she had an African American CHILD actor on her show makes what she said this morning even more sickening. And all these people now out of work because of her is sad. Hopefully they can kill her character off the show and bring everyone else back. But I’m sure that’s doubtful.
Does anyone know why she hates Chelsea Clinton so much?
Some people hate anything named Clinton.
Another silly story: I once went to a U2 concert at at RFK stadium (huge, decomissoioned football stadium) and Chelsea and her high school friiends (plus secret service agents) were sitting BEHIND me.
Some of you might feel angry that he had agents to protect her, but she was a teenager and daughter of the president, so she gets the protection. I just thought it was hilarious that we had better seats than she and her pals did.
Also, she is TINY in person. I mean TINY. But normal teenager outfit: jeans and a t-shirt.
Another Chelsea “little” story. During her college years in Nth. Calif. she’d occasionally pop into parties. My sons said she was very cool and funny. She never drank much and the secret service would do repeated walk through’s but then mostly stay outside. I don’t begrudge secret service details to the children of the President.
Because she’s a Clinton. It doesn’t matter that she’s a good person.
Done for now, I suspect.
I was done with her so many years ago..
I don’t know what the hell Roseanne was thinking. ABC made the right business decision. Those supporting Roseanne in this matter are hypocrites. Speaking of hypocrites, where was the liberal outrage last month when Joy Reid of MSNBC was caught for having tweeted out several anti gay comments. She should have lost her show too. But the liberals just stayed silent as usual.
That was terrible shit to tweet, but I agree on the hypocrisy point. The stuff I have seen posted about the presidents youngest son is this disgusting yet crickets. Roseanne has been a loose cannon for a very long time, remember her national anthem mess?
Speaking of Trump’s sons, Donald Jr loved to RT Roseanne’s crap.
Don jr retweeting is as bad as her tweets. My point was all the stuff about a child was disgusting yet the media w as silent. It’s a double standard that shouldn’t be. Yes we all have freedom of speech but hatefulness and ugliness aren’t needed. Especially when done about a child. Again, Roseanne has been nuts for a long time.
Who shall we cancel for tweets re: Trumps son? I did say that Eric always looks like he has smelled sewage. Is that the same thing as disparaging ALL black people and ALL Muslim people? She knew the value of those words.
In the meantime you may fcancek me because he does look like he smelled something awful.
(they meant Barron)
And there was plenty of liberal outrage at Joy Reid.
A child? child? He’s a 30 something idiot who shoots wild animals for FUN. Screw that turd.
She said “the president’s youngest son.” That’s Barron.
Ignorance loves company!
Where are the Trumps today regarding Roseanne? They need to be shaming her for her disgusting tweets. But of course they will say nothing.
I have not seen anyone post anything about Trump’s youngest son except for a right wing site that criticized what he was wearing.
In re: the Joy Reid issue. it wasn’t tweets, it was an old blog of hers. The homophobic shit was from something like 2005? There are a lot of people who have changed their minds re: LGBTQ issues, who have learned more since then.
She apologized profusely – and I thought there was some question regarding her being hacked???
If I’m totally thinking of something different and she has said something recently, then the same shit needs to happen to her.
No, Erica, you’re not thinking of something different. NJB doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
There was backlash about that blog post. Then she apologized then she said she was hacked. What a weirdo. Just apologize. Say seven years ago I was ignorant on a subject. Overtime, i learned the truth about the situation. Be smart and flip it to show how ignorance and hatred can be erased with exposure to other people and points of views. Speak about how proud you are of what you have become now. She was stupid to say it was hacked.
I am so disappointed about the cancellation of Roseanne. I never watched the reboot because she was too filled with hatred and bitterness. It is a shame because when I heard it was coming back I was excited. Now all those people lost jobs.
Yea, I too was excited for the return of Roseanne’s show and I used to watch the original back in the day but this was the last straw and I’m happy that ABC put principal before profit.
NJ Bot, Maybe because most liberals do not know what’ you are talking about. I’ve not seen quotes or a article on this.
Therealdeb, I call bull! When anything was said about Barron, all past Childten of the Presidents came out in Barron Trumps defense and Chelsea was one of the first to tell people to back off. Every time anything was said about him, who ever said it was corrected. Very little has been said about Barron in recent months by anyone that makes mainstream media.
Hey, your white sheet is showing and I think you took to much Ambien.
Okay, good that ABC did the RIGHT thing in cancelling that show! Now, why won’t Bravo follow suit and cancel that racist Kim zolciak’s tardy for the party? Inquiring minds want to know Now!
People are so stupid.
Yes, she has the right to say whatever she wants.
She also has to deal with the fallout.
Like the NFL players, right?
Yes
You have really got it twisted if you believe protesting inequality and the injustice of police brutality and murder of a group of people is the same as Roseanne’s racist remarks.Two totally different situations. And before you give me that tired statement about disrespecting the flag and military, please understand what it really means and then see whose being disrepectful.
While one may be vile and the other looked favorably upon, both are free speech.
Amen
And the NFL is a privately owned company while I believe ABC has shareholders, making them publically owned.
Kita: Roseanne and the NFL et al all have free speech. And they will suffer whatever people make them suffer for it. But the players are working at a job, and bosses have every write to tell you what you can say and do when you’re working. Besides which, they are protesting the police for so-called brutality, of which there will be isolated incidents of, but in almost entirety police protect the rest of us with their lives. IF it offends the viewers, and it did, they need to do it on their own time.
“they are protesting the police for……..
“so called brutality of which there will be isolated incidents of”
“So called brutality”
“isolated incidents”
Unfreakingbelievable. I’m gobsmacked.
Somebody please say something, I’m speechless.
I know, right?! Some people will never accept reality. ?
DebBrenn what rock have you been under? Police brutality is real, they work for us & should be fired immediately then prosecuted. I think when the police start kolling unarmed whites you may change your thoughts. How dare you – they are working a job (NFL) but they have the right to protest & should. I hope they stay in the locker room. That song celebrates slavery – who salutes during a song celebrating the denigration of their own people? Read the words to the song & yes, I have friends and relatives who are police. They know how racist cops are because they work with them!
They do killunarmed whites!!! Are you blind?
The guy who pays the bills is the guy who makes the rules. We can bemoan that but it has and will always be true
Ultimately the fans pay the bills, and it seems that the sport has not suffered. This is a reasonable form of nonviolent protest. Unlike, say, Charlottesville.
Playing the national anthem is nothing but an ad for the military.
Literally. The military PAYS the NFL to do it.
What the flag really means? I don’t want this to turn into something else but I don’t understand what you mean.
What have the NFL players done that is wrong? Are you referring to ‘taking the knee’ during the national anthem? They have every right to do that, and their public platform, seen by millions, could lead some people to think.
I’m pretty sure there were other countries in history where people didn’t want to salute the flag and were forced to. I’m not much of a history buff, but I don’t think that turned out so well.
Until, oh, around 2016, saluting the flag, standing for the flag, saying the pledge of allegiance were not mandatory and taking a knee in silent protest was a right that was part of the fabric of this country. Things are starting to seem like those other places where we must conform or suffer consequences. I am trying to lose weight so that I can fit in the soon to be requisite arm bands.
When TT. It’s getting scary.
TT, world history is a huge gap in my education. I’ll be traveling to South Africa later this year, and can you believe that I thought they had solved their problems with racism/oppression and everything was ok, now? I am embarrassed to admit this terrible and uninformed assumption.
If anyone has a recent book or documentary they’d like to recommend on this topic, I’m all ears. Thanks in advance.
NFL passed a”rule” last month it will now be illegal or not allowed to take a knee.
Not “illegal.” The NFL is a very strong corporation, but not the government. They will lose this battle.
Are any of you old enough to remember the 1968 Olympics? American and also a South African raised their fists as a symbol during their medal ceremonies. Not as a symbol of hate, but one of the need for more attentiion to views of equality.
Cara, Yes, I remember watching the raised fists. It moved something in me that began my feelings of today.
Canada in 1950/60’s – the first nations dragged to the residential schools were beaten due to not being the correct hue and not knowing what the canadian flag was
The Canadian flag was introduced on Feb 15, 1965.
Not really. Legally- what the NFL is doing is compelled speech by forcing them to stand under penalty of fines. Good luck to them once someone sues.
Sure she does. And her job has every right to fire her if what she, as a public figure, happens to spew is ignorant and racist.
Puh-lease don’t bring politics into this site. It’s actually one of the few funny places left that hasn’t been infected, and I come here for the great laughs.
Roseanne’s tweet was horrible and inexcusable, but stereotyping and name-calling Trump supporters just adds to the toxic rhetoric from both sides.
You don’t seem to understand the difference between hate speech and politics. There seems to be a lot of that going around in the world. Also, you are not required to read every post here. You have the right to pick and choose those that interest you. Also, please read the commenting rules.
Really? The left are masters of hate speech. If you disagree with them you get called every name in the book. Spare me the lecture, and don’t bother banning me or telling me not to come back. I won’t be back.
Just out of curiosity why do people announce their leaving a site or blog? Is it like a virtual door slamming? What is the objective?
It’s about the drama. “I’ll show you”. Nobody cares.
I specifically tell them in advance in the commenting rules in ELABORATE detail that I don’t give a shit if they get offended and leave and they don’t have to announce it.
If they are leaving over this post, I can only assume they share the same sort of mental illness as Roseanne Barr does and they would have eventually been banned anyway. This post is like a time saver for me. No hate speech, no racist bullshit, no bigotry, is tolerated here.
I like you better when you’re edgy and call well-deserved people cuntsatchels. This fallback retort – read the commenting rules -when you don’t have a good response is a cop out. Disappointed.
I YOU would read the commenting rules, I believe number one is not to try to dictate what I do or do not post about. Also that I don’t give a shit what offends you or what you don’t want to hear about. THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE COMMENTING RULES is to say, if you don’t like this site, I don’t give a shit. I don’t need a pronouncement of your departure and have fun seeking out your happy place. But when entitled cunts like you don’t think you NEED to read the commenting rules I have to waste time telling you that I don’t give a shit about your opinion on what I do or do not post here individually, which only feeds into your sense of entitlement.
So either have fucking seat, or go die in a fire. It matters not to me.
My second favorite thing after people announcing they are leaving this board FOREVER is the ones who tell you you’re doing it wrong. You know, on your blog, where you make the rules and write most of the posts. Wrong. LOL
Ugh. I hate it when I clear my dirty cache and have to go into moderation.
I also think she’s having a mental health break down. I thought she was the voice of the working class left when she first started her show? I don’t understand the drastic change?
Or she understands that denigration seems to get a lot of free publicity.
Yay!! Buh-bye!
OMG where have you been? Clings you to my bosum.
Entitled cunt? WOW — first time for that one. I feel special. And very buzzed from a special bottle of Pinot Grigo.
Hey TT, just messing with you. And, getting you extra clicks. You’re welcome.
I had to buy a box of Pinot Grigio tonight because Kroger is a stupid for for stupid and doesn’t have Rose. If you stop being such a cunt I will share it with you in a little bit. In the meantime, I have to get ready to recap IF THAT IS OKAY YOUR Queen Nefertiti !
I really never thought I’d live in a world where someone being an insane, monstrous racist can be defended by anyone as “different opinions” or somehow ok because “leftists call people names too”
We are circling the drain.
I don’t think it was defended, it was stated as fact. We are all allowed to speak our minds BUT recriminations can be a bitch.
I know a child who was suspended because she walked out of school to advocate for gun control. I told her that I was proud of her. Still she has to understand that there is a price for taking a stand sometimes.
Freedom of speech may cost you. The difference is, public sentiment is for the student protest and against Roseanne.
Is Roseanne proud of herself or does she realize that she fucked up in a way that bit any career she hoped to have in the ass. (Never forget this)
Her whole existence is inflammatory political statements. She never would have had a reboot without her “polarizing personality “. She’s a loser and always has been. She gets attention for being an obnoxious cunt, she took it too far, like the stupid ass she has always been.
I agree completely. I really don’t want to see all the political arguments on this terrific site. TT you do an amazing job keeping us informed and I value your insight and opinion.
I am so sorry you were unable to stop yourself from reading a post you are not interested in, read all the political comments, and leave a comment of your own.
Do you also eat foods you don’t like and go to movies you don’t want to see and travel to cities you’d prefer not to visit? Your like must be terrible.
When you visit someones house you can’t tell them what they can or cannot say, you just came by, you weren’t invited! ? So next time, try bringing a nice bottle of ?maybe some snacks, and if you don’t like the subject matter, just shut up and be nice! It’s NOT your house…you’re a guest. Listen, you might learn something…just saying
Cheers TT
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequences. Ain’t she Jewish? Smdfh
Roseanne thinks we all want her opinion because she is so beloved. Total BS, she always has been. She does have a lit of hate in her and dispenses it luberally.
The reason I hate this is that I like Roseanne. I don’t want it to be cancelled. That show doesn’t need Roseanne. John Goodman can carry it on his own comedic genius. Remember how it went straight down the toilet without him. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Get rid of Roseanne, take away her electronics or otherwise find a way to shut her up. Let John Goodman lead the cast.
Get back under your rock Roseanne.
They could call it Roseanneless.
Or Roseanne’s family or The Connor Family. Similar to when Valerie Harper fought with TPTB and was gone.
I would absolutely watch Roseanneless
Yes! They could kill her off just like they did to John Goodman, except the show wouldn’t tank this time.
They could call it “Noseanne.”
Well done, Cara! Well Done.
Damn, I wish I thought of that!
I only thought of it because I’m a Washington Capitals’ fan, and my Canadian friend is a Montreal Canadiens’ fan. The Canadiens are colloquially known as “les habitants,” or “les habs” or “the habs” for short.
My Canadian pal told me of two ex-Habs who are on the Caps’ team, encouraging me to root for them. He calls them the “Hab nots.”
Cute, yes?
Très.
It was only a matter of time before Roseanne did something like this. She’s never been known for respecting boundaries, which can be good or, as in this case, absolutely and 100% disgusting and racist.
Given her pro-Trump leanings, I would never have watched her show as I considered it little more than an excuse for right-wing propaganda, so I can’t say I’m sorry she screwed up in such a big way. I am, however, very sorry for all the other cast members and the crew, most of whom probably didn’t share her views at all. They’re all out of work now, through no fault of their own. I was so surprised that Wanda Sykes, who left the show today, had been one of Roseanne’s writers,especially with her being so publicly anti-Trump. Seemed like a weird match. Anyway, condolences to all the actors and others who are being affected by this ugly (not talking about her looks) woman’s inability to know when to keep her mouth shut.
It was no more right leaning as Will and Grace was left leaning. Last week was pro woman. The overt references to Trump was Epi 1 with Jackie bringing up the left.
DJ has married a black woman and has a son. They did not feature the story enough. Darlene is a single mother so they were all real issues.
Remember, Sara Gilbert was the producer, not Roseanne. It’s a shame that her creative ideas were squelched by the bigot
Maybe she will get a show?
That’s exactly what I’ve been wondering about – poor Sara!!
ABC should have never given her this platform to begin with. She’s been spewing this hate since the 80’s. That someone here mentioned politics only scares me more, that wasn’t politics, but it’s easy to confuse hate speech with the politics of today. Left Twitter because the “norm” shifted so rapidly. This will never be normal.
Lisa, your point of view is so important. It isn’t about politics.
I feel terrible for the other cast members and crew who were relying on that paycheck. This is all Roseanne’s doing not anyone else! That diatribe came out of her mouth and people should leave politics out of it. I liked this past season of Roseanne and was looking forward to it’s return. She has ruined it for everyone who enjoyed the show and that’s sad!
Who else will be watching “The Talk” tomorrow to hear what Melissa Gilbert has to say?
With the exception of the absolute youngest kids, I think they all knew they were tacitly endorsing her racism by not saying anything to address it. The whole reboot thing was a bad idea to begin with because it happened post Charlotte. Once everything went down in Charlotte, there was no way to normalize Trump and everyone who supported him after was complicit in his racism.
I do think that it is interesting that Emma Kenney (who plays Darlene’s daughter) was in the process of resigning from the show after Rosanne’s tweets, and found out that the show was cancelled before she could. At least that’s what she said on Twitter.
I don’t worry about John Goodman or Laurie Metcalf, they are two of the most talented character actors of their generation and I’m sure they will still get work after this. For the kids though, this was probably their big break.
Yeah, I feel especially bad for Lecy Goranson. Since the original run of Roseanne ended, she’s been out there trying to continue her career as a working actress, but with mixed success, to put it mildly. Did you see her in Boys Don’t Cry? She was PHENOMENAL. I have an inkling that she was especially glad to have this gig come her way; it’s terrible that Roseanne’s idiocy pulled the plug on it like it did.
Charlottesville, VA.
Thanks, Spunky. It could have happened anywhere, and it does, but this particular incident did happen in Charlottesville. Close to home for me as it’s my DH’s and DS’s second “home town.”
Sara Gilbert, Melissa was Little House on the Prairie ?
Or will Melissa Gilbert be on The View? Sara is on The Talk or something like that. The Chew? Who knows
I’d think Melissa would be in big trouble if she went on View or Chew rather than her sister’s show 😉
with Kyle Richards….
What I find incredibly sad is that someone has to explain why the show was cancelled to the youngest cast member. It’s so tragic that this child has to experience racism from someone that she probably thought of as family.
Good Lord Kerry, that didn’t even occur to me right away! There is a very good chance she will understand the consequences of bad behaviour than Roseanne. As would any child in Anerica I suspect.
*better than Roseanne…..
There is a good chance that the child has parents with a brain who will simply tell her that the show was cancelled. She’s a child. She doesn’t need to be a part of the adult conversation.
Well said TT. I doubt it is well taken by everyone who worry about their child being their best friend or making sure they have a say so in every decision.
It’s over, go play!
TT & Muffin Top- luv what you said.. Brings me back to when I was a kid and adult subjects came up, Mom and Dad always said go outside and play . There’s nothing a good game of block tag and long drink from the water hose couldn’t fix.
I really liked the new show. Her last show focused on insurance unaffordability, her knee replacement and her growing pain pill addiction. Very timely issues. I also love Laurie Metcalf who is brilliant. I agree on Zolziak, she still has a show after saying she was ganged up on by 5 black women etc. I never thought Rosanne was stupid, she had to know how bad this was gonna be!! I do feel bad for her costars especially the kids.
There is a BIG difference between network TV and cable. One can get away with more on cable, then there is HBO and other premium channels where anything goes.
lawstangel – it’s a different time when American corporations now promote doing the right thing and showing moral character when they will face a monetary loss.
To Orhers, I’m a semi-liberal Snowflake, I do not call the right names. There are conservatives that are liberal, that support law & order and the military. I just support Black Lives Matter and Planned Parenthood also.
We have to respect all people’s not just those we agree with. All peoples rights need protection, or your rights will be next that are gone.
We are all proud Americans!
Remember when Conan O’Brien left NBC for another network and made one of his terms that his staff had to come with? I don’t know if it included every last worker, but he certainly stood up for his team.
Good riddance and let the door hit ya, Roseanne.
I’m just sad for this country. Sad how backwards we have gone in the way we treat each other and dehumanize another. What will be our bottom?
Politics makes strange bedfellows with no holds barred.
Was that a pun?
That was my intent originally, given my dark sense of humor, now I realize it’s a sad observation from my point of view. Why hate?
T.D. Our country will be okay once we get through this backlash towards having elected a black man in the W.H.
History has always been like a pendulum finally settling somewhere in the middle.
In time, most of the bigots will die off. Others will change or be shoved into dark corners.
Our country will survive.
The last time we settled in the so called middle the Mason Dixon line was the solution. Tragic. God bless.
I know right? All the animosity and hatred is overwhelming. It’s so sad.
I feel we are rapidly approaching bottom and its not going to be pretty.
How appropriate Roseanne has a nut farm in Hawaii. She has always been an idiot and just got lucky making money with her sctick.
Because of the ratings, who else thinks it’ll be picked up by Fox or TBS or someone else after the dust settles and everyone has moved on to a new scandal? It’s all about the $$$ …
It all depends on who holds the rights to the show, the characters, etc.
Nobody thinks that. The cast came after her. They don’t want anything to do with her anymore. It won’t happen.
I did see that in the news after I posted. I agree that it won’t happen.
I didn’t watch the latest season (not really a reboot. They didn’t start off again at the beginning with a couple with young kids).
But I am sad and disappointed about this. Not that it was cancelled – that consequence of her racist comment had to happen and I am glad that they were swift in that decision. There were no shades to the one about Valerie Jarrett, no alternative interpretation as much as some on twitter are attempting to say there is one.
The original run of the series (the last two seasons not withstanding) were brilliant, cutting edge, and at times made us laugh as well as uncomfortable. I don’t say this lightly – it was, in some ways, up there with the best of Norman Lear’s work.
Years ago, I followed Roseanne on Twitter. This would have been around 2011 – 2012, when her show “Roseanne’s Nuts” was on. (Oh, I loved that show too!) To my surprise, after I tweeted something she thought was funny in response to something she was tweeting about – she followed me. She still does, actually. There were a couple of times we even DM’d each other, but that hasn’t happened since 2015, right about when Trump started to campaign and she really started buying into various conspiracy theories that were easily debunked, etc.
I haven’t caught a lot of her tweets lately – she tends to do some shit late at night, and I have learned to ignore them as her “out there” ones come in waves, with other times she seems like that Roseanne I first followed in 2011. I also know my response to her would solve nothing, as the Roseanne I “met” in those DMs didn’t seem to be around much – there are times she blocks/berates her own children on Twitter (I follow her daughter – her son actually followed through with ending his. His account is open only so he can control it I think). She even blocked MIchael Fishman (DJ) at one point, over some perceived slight.
I am sad that the “original” seasons of the show are now tainted. I’m sad that people were hurt by her blatant racism in many different ways (I’m sad for her cast and crew too). I’m sad that there is a strong possibility that there may be mental health issues at play here and there probably isn’t much her friends and family can do about that. I’m sad that a creative, brilliant person who inspired a good number of other creative, brilliant people has gone down this horrible, reprehensible, ugly path.
Sarah Gilbert tweeted this morning.
So disappointed that the show will not continue. I really enjoyed the show and so many really talented people all back together. It was almost surreal and reminded me of happier times growing up. It was very nostalgic for me. It is very hard to find good comedy on TV and it really laughed at timest watching it. Some of the subject matter was so right on and was interesting being addressed during such conflicting times. So sad for everyone who have lost their jobs. I wish it would continue as we the viewers are the ones being punished.
Feel the same way
Sad for all that made it nice smh
I just turned to Fox News and they have black people on there arguing about double standards and how Joy Behar should be fired. Joy drives me crazy at times and can be a shrew but she is talking about her political position and all the stupid shit that POTUS does. They have political debates. Not hate speech.
I was sad for all the people who spent MONTHS AND MONTHS of their lives reconstructing the original set.
If you have HBO, TURN IT ON RIGHT NOW! It’s time for Vice News. It’s only about 20 minutes, and they will be covering the Roseanne Barr thing as much as they can. They are the best new source we have right now. It’s cutting edge news that has won a lot of awards. Because it is actual NEWS.
I love VICE
TT Vice was the new programming I crazy emailed you about years ago.
To other’s; Vice is also on regular programming with a cable provider. I’ve Comcast w/o extra channels.
Bye you UNFUNNY CUNT!!
Tamara or Roseanne? Asking for a friend….
It can’t be me. If there is one thing I am sure of is that people enjoy laughing at me. Wait, I mean, that I am funny.
Your friend needs their head checked as if it’s even a question.
Roseanne rerun is supposed to be right now. They’ve pulled it. The Middle or something is on instead.
I just saw that scrolling that it was on the “TV guide”. So glad this minor national nightmare is over.
This is not a national nightmare. Flint with no water, Puerto Rico with shortages if everything, dept of Indian Affairs trying , 100 years later, to back out of treaties, opiod crises, children being ripped away from their parents, school massacres, cutting social security and Medicare benefits, overcrowded prisons with an 75% African American populatio are All national nightmares.
Watching an actual racist attack a human of color is national – and for that human it can feel like a nightmare.
Racism is not poignant only to USA it is world wide. Watching an actual racist be given consequences that are tangible and effectiive to all – that makes this situation national.
Hee boss is a black woman. Her arrogance was stupid.
Hi, Dainty! I agree we have more significant problems. But millions of people watched this show and if even 10% of them open their eyes to the problems surrounding hate and racism that we are experiencing in our country, it’s a gain.
Oh shut up. You are a tragedy competitor. Mine is worse than yours, this is worse than that blah blah blah. It’s all terrible and so are you.
I am inspired by ABC taking a stand. It feels like it has become more and more acceptable to say horrific racist, sexist and homophobic things. Our President does, so why would anyone believe it is wrong? Maybe we are finally coming to our senses as a Nation. I certainly hope so.
Not likely. Once he fires Mueller, the coup will be complete and they won’t have to lie any longer. They will lie, but they won’t have to. We will be conquered.
Sorry for the fatalistic post. I try and stay within the bounds of reality tv and gardening. Otherwise, I get nervous.
Mueller is the least of his problems. The big issues we have in this country he cannot fire and they’re rapidly accelerating us into collapse or civil war.
It’s a slightly grey area, but very doubtful that Trump can fire Mueller.
Now, can he fire Robert DeNiro as Mueller on Saturday Night Live? I hope not, becuase DeNiro is hilarious in that role. He clearly doesn’t rehearse and only reads cue cards, but you know who he is when he walks onto that set and it’s a gas.
I am laughing at the memory of that skit……
Trump is one “rotten” human being. The awful things that come out of that mouth of his are horrifying and unbelievable that the president of the United States would say these kinds of things. Somethings gotta give.
I hope ABC owns the rights to the show so it can not get picked up thru Hulu or Netflix or something.
I read today HULU removed the old shows.
Maybe it’s my age but I would love for entertainers to entertain and athletes to play.
I don’t want to know their political or social opinions.
Please don’t send me to the WLS for saying that. I would really miss the Imposters recaps!
I self deported to WLS once…..
Thanks for posting this and giving us a place for discussion Tamara.
It cracks me up seeing people from high school who whine about the NFL player protests for disrespecting the anthem putting up “I stand with Roseanne” Facebook posts after her history grabbing her crotch and spitting after shrieking the anthem in the ’90s.
I enjoyed the original Roseanne a lot (at least the first several seasons) and despite loathing Trump was enjoying seeing the show on again (mainly for nostalgia and because of the great supporting actors/characters I had missed). I am bummed for the crew, writers, and actors that are losing out on a lot of money and opportunity because of Roseanne’s reckless casual racism. Roseanne has enough money she will be fine with this show being cancelled and her following fellow sitcom superstar Bill Cosby to pariah status. But what about say the kid who played D.J. I don’t think he ever acted again after this show.
It wasn’t to my taste, but I didn’t mind Roseanne grabbing her crotch. She is clearly not always in touch with what’s appropriate, but she’s a comic by profession.
She’s also known for being the original purveyor of “You are so fired” when on her original sitcom, so there’s that.
I found Roseannes tweet very tasteless…..yet many of you on here will be shocked to hear that I am a Republican…. guess what? Republicans were disgusted by her crap too. She not only in one fell swoop shit-canned her livliehood, she took away income from probably 100 or more people too. But, reading all these comments that are unkind to Conservatives or Republicans or Trump supporters doesn’t make “your side” any better. Mostly, hypocritical. I have held my tongue at so many comments on this site, because everyone is entitled to Free Speech, even if it differs from my own…I have been silent about the unkind comments directed at me, as a conservative you slam and don’t know I am here, because I enjoyed the re-caps of shows I think are kind of useless, but there was no pandering to them on this site….but, there are more conservative thinkers here than you will ever know, because we know we will get jumped on for being conservative. Yet, we are painted with a broad brush when some dumb cluck makes a distetasteful statement….line I said, hypocritical.
God, what a weird thing to say. Roseanne was universally condemned today by prominent conservatives like Shepard Smith and Rick Wilson, to tons regular folks on Twitter. It’s only the conspiracy theorists and Trump groupies who are trying to justify Roseanne,
Why do ALL conservatives/republicans continually claim victimhood when politics are discussed in a bipartisan fashion? Your party has control over the executive, legislative and judicial branches of our national government.
Do you feel that you are a powerless victim because some people might disagree with your political beliefs? Your party has ABSOLUTE power over this country. How could you possibly be a victim?
I have no idea why Mrs. R. Thinks that she is somehow hiding in the shadows here as some sort of political minority. We have people from every point off the spectrum here. What we are talking about here is racism, bigotry and hatred. There should be no point of argument in this thread at all. Either you are disgusted by the tweet, or…. you agree with the racist sentiment. I find the fact that Mrs. R. seems to be defending herself for some unknown reason rather disturbing.
Free speech means she, or you or ANYONE will not be arrested for speaking their mind. Thats doesn’t mean everyone has to tolerate or support it. Why is this so hard for so many to comprehend?
Mrs. R., Whia, I’m a democrat that is a conservative also. Being a conservative means wanting a smaller government, you get that right? I also want all peoples rights respected, Planned Parenthood (learn the truth) and Black Lives Matter. (learn the truth)
If you don’t support their rights who will be there to support your rights?
This!
Well stated! This is our responsibility (and we should consider it a privilege as well).
I think it goes both ways….”the vitirol.”
I live in Los Angeles, I have several Republican friends who have been Republicans for years, including my sister. ALL of them do not believe what is going on today is indicative of what the Republican party has been about in the past. All of them dislike our current president immensely. All of them believe the party has been taken over by the extremists. I cannot disagree. In my mind, there are average Republicans and then there are the Tea party/MAGA’s who are more militant?
On election night, I was sad that Trump won, so I went to a FB page of a farther left leaning person that I am. I was shocked to see a number of GOP’s there laughing, taunting and name calling anyone that was left leaning. I don’t typically initiate name calling, I consider my self smart, I like to kill them with the facts! I attempted to ask one man who was a family guy from Wisconsin a couple of generic questions about what he posted. He literally excoriated me with a barrage of obscenities and name calling.I was pretty shocked and I ducked out.
One thing I have noticed is there are a number of right wingers that believe that everyone needs to group think hence the term RINO. When did it become a “requirement” to not have a brain? Bottom line, we are living through an extraordinary time in history and I believe Democracy in general is under attack all over the world. I guess we just have to all do what we each feel is best and see where the chips fall.
Lawstangel,, very well said.
I’ve encountered viterol when asking a question also.
A year ago I looked for answers from Republican sites, I was met with name calling or Hillary hate which did not answer my questions. I was sent nasty images/comments to my FB messenger.
I agree the Tea Party hijacked Republican Party and also a few radical Christian churches.
Yes there is an attempt to destroy Democracy worldwide but I believe Democracy will win. Our country has been divided before, I believe in our ability to overcome.
Our forefathers absolutely believed in and wrote that the Church must stay out of our government, separation of church and state.
Once that is supported again our nation will be just fine.
We need the old bigots to die off, they are afraid of change.
Our schools need to educate in what was Jim Crow/it’s effects and what is socialism and why it is bad.
That would help if people understood those two ideology’s, most do not.
Plus the principle of respecting all rights, not only yours bc if you take away their rights, your rights could be next.
Absolutely! I have found that some people who feel they are under attack believe that if someone ELSE gets something, it is somehow a LOSS to the person who is feeling victimized. Life is not a zero-sum game. We take what we need and leave the rest. We take care of each other. We treat everyone as being of deserving of kindness, human rights, civic infrastructure, and economic opportunity as we consider ourselves to be.
And if they can’t access those things, then we freaking HELP THEM to get that access. Because we know that a rising tide raises all boats.
Does that describe a country in which you wouldn’t want to live?
My son plays college baseball. 2 boys on his team were speaking to each other in Spanish, their native language. Junior College World Series. Today, the bus driver from the opposing team yelled, “Hey. When are you going to speak English?”
Lots of hate out there. These boys are legal citizens. It was announced that racial slurs will not be tolerated and you will be forced to leave the game. Lesson taught.
P.s. one of the boys hit the game winning home run.
Adding on here: manager Mike Matheny of the St Louis Cardinals learned Spanish so he could be a better baseball manager.
His mentors urged him to become fluent so he could freely communicate with players.
People communicate in so many ways other than just English words. The bus driver needs to learn to ignore conversations he is not a part of.
Hurray for winning homers! In any language.
Hmm, on a construction site my son had to step in to make English mandatory on the job site unless it was a quick Spanish comment back and forth. Some crew members were commenting about co workers in Spainish and was not complimentary. They did not realize they were understood by others.
It works both ways.
Roseanne is back twittering. She claims she was on Ambien. People do some weird shit on that drug, for sure. She’s taking responsibility and telling her followers not to boycott ABC sponsors. She’s also retwittering some bizarre tweets.
While Roseann was wrong and her tweets were disgusting, lets be real, if she didn’t back Trump she would have never been fired. Look at the View, those ladies are disgusting and vile and if you aren’t a liberal, they go after you. Yet they are still are the air. Wanda Sykes has tweeted about white people, yet she was never reprimanded. If you are going to go after one, go after them al,l regardless of what side of politics they are on or what side they support.
Yes, Roseanne is racist and a trump supporter. Her show was on a family network owned by Disney. Her racist remarks would have got her fired regardless of her political affiliation.
And by the way, liberal political views are only disgusting to close-minded conservatives. Yet republicans have no problems with the disgusting things trump says about minorities and women almost on a daily basis.
Oh but that liberal bitch Joy Behar said something nasty about our jesus loving VP! And that evil black lesbian comic Wanda Sykes said something controversial things about us poor, oppressed white people! White christians, the new oppressed minority. REALLY? Lol.
Jim you just proved my point……. Cheerio
No you just did not GET his…..
I totally agree w/ you, Jim & Lawstangel.
Cheerio backatcha to the Clueless sandy.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that all opinions are of equal value.
While everybody has a right to their opinion, that doesn’t mean that one’s ignorant, bigoted ideas deserve the same treatment as another’s learned, well-thought-out ones. This is the new conservative tactic: “Your intolerance of my bigotry is itself intolerant”. It doesn’t work that way.
Oh, and also:
“Wanda Sykes has tweeted about white people, yet she was never reprimanded…”
You further seem to be unfamiliar with the concepts of “punching up” vs. “punching down”. There is a BIG difference between the two.
For the love of GOD please stop making me defend Joy Behar. The old joke is, “When we talk to God, we’re praying. When God talks to us, we’re schizophrenic.” The joke has been around for decades. It’s not some original thought by Joy. I watched the episode. It wasn’t the vicious attack on Christianity it had been made out to be.
They were talking about Omarosa on Celebrity Big Brother. She is the one who said that all the weird shit that Pence does he believes that God speaks directly to him and tell him to do. You know who else used to say that? Jim Jones.
Saying that people who do weird shit “because God tells them to” is a bit batshit crazy is not the same as making abhorrent racist comments. I don’t know why I even have to explain this to you.
Someone did a horrible thing and paid an appropriate price. Your response to racism is, “Yeah, but…” There is not but. You are not twelve. This is not a “he started it…” situation, “Or an everyone else is doing it…” situation.
As for Wanda Sykes, you would greatly benefit from going to see one of her shows. She’s funny and she might uncover your sense of humor hidden under all that equivocating.
Tamara and Roseanne are similar. Neither gives a fuck about what offends!
I disagree. Tamara can be offensive but she does not use racial slurs. Most of us would not be here if she did. Roseanne crossed over the line. What she tweeted could not be defended by any rational person. Her TV show was meant to be family-friendly on a mainstream network and her vile spewings could not be tolerated. She deserved to be fired and it is her responsibility that all those people working on her show lost their jobs. She can live with that.
There is not giving a fuck and there is being an ignorant racist. Very different and very clear.
Isn’t it shame that people still espouse and propagate such hateful and divisive beliefs? All we can do is keep active for social change and equity. To dissent like the notorious RBG.
Notorious RBG is my hero.
I just saw the documentary. A balm in troubled times. It’s the first film I ever attended that got a standing ovation. Incredible.
And yet she is also been verbally attacked!
I’m so disappointed. This show has always been a favorite of mine. It dealt with adults who made real life mistakes and kids who were not your cookie cutter perfect kids. They didn’t always do the right things in societies views. They addressed important issues of the time. I was thrilled when they came back. I was unaware of a lot of Rosannes political views until the reboot. It crushes me to think that someone can be hateful in their views and I never thought of them being such a person. I feel so hurt for all that this affects.
I think that they shouldn’t punish the other actors and they should bring Melissa McCARTHY
TO TAKE ROSEANNE’S PLACE.
I think that they shouldn’t punish the other actors and they should bring Melissa McCARTHY
TO TAKE ROSEANNE’S PLACE.
Now she’s blaming it on ambien, of all things lol
Please, this is a pattern, a habit, not some out of character remark.
Good riddance, but I feel terrible for all the staff who lost their jobs over her stupid mouth.
Does anyone remember the show “Valerie” & something happened & the star left then they renamed the show “The Hogan Family” & brought in Sandy Duncan?? They should do something like that with Roseanne
Roseanne forgot that she needed to keep certain thoughts to herself in today’s world. People get fired, beaten up and even killed for expressing unpopular opinions. I always thought Roseanne was vulgar and
seldom paid any attention to her. She just proved I am right, she is vulgar and gross and insulting. She
just forgot that today she could be fired for saying some stupid thing you are thinking. Keep your trap shut!
Racism, bigotry and hatred is not just an “unpopular opinion.” Thinking that Dude, Where’s My Car” is a cinematic masterpiece is an unpopular opinion. Racism, bigotry and hatred are serious character flaws.
Do you see the difference between the two? Or do you just keep your racism, bigotry and hatred inside?
I keep a lot of things inside, this is prime example of why. No where did I say I agreed with anything she said, In fact I believe I said I thought she was vulgar, gross and insulting. I wasn’t expecting to be attacked as hateful,racist bigot. But then you’ve just made my point.
Re-read what you said. You said, essentially, that everything would have been fine if Roseanne had simply kept her unpopular opinions to herself.
No way. If Roseanne holds those opinions, she is worse than unpopular. She is a hateful, racist bigot.
Though I know Sara Gilbert addressed this on her Twitter, I’m surprised it wasn’t discussed on The Talk today. Roseanne singlehandedly ruined the legacy of a show that used to be relatable.
I was pissed at myself for forgetting to record The Talk today. They didn’t mention it at all? Are you sure it was a new show? They might be off for Memorial Day week or they could be on hiatus.
It was aired for the first time. Julie did not say it was a new show.
They discussed feeling guilty if they took time off work.
Sara said she wouldn’t take unscheduled time off because it would impact others.
No way could she say this today without acknowledging the cancellation..
She did tweet yesterday and I am sure it will be mentioned next time they tape.
I did record the Talk just in case…
I just read that they are considering bringing the cast back for a different show. That would be awesome! I was at the harbor walking my dog and all i could think about were those poor people affiliated with the show who might have bought new houses, cars, or spent money on big ticket items on their credit cards now in financial ruin because they thought they had big money coming in.
I agree with those who say that John Goodman and Laurie Metcalfe could carry this show (with the other actors and without Roseanne). Both of them are among the best in their field, IMHO.
The biggest problem here is that Roseanne is one of those idiot people who post political propaganda and believes it without checking one single fact.
Because this woman was born in Iran and worked for Obama..she believed she was Muslim with a Muslim agenda. (Typical lies of racists who want to covertly slander Obama and anyone associated with him) If the idiot would have done just a little research before posting crap all over social media she would have know that Ms. Jarrett’s parents were both black americans. The only reason she was born in Iran was because her father was working there at the time.
Because she was ignorant of who this woman actually is doesn’t not excuse her. She needs to ask herself why she is so quick to believe these outrageous lies.
Roseanne is back to tweeting. Lashed out at her cast members for throwing her under the bus.. Riiight.
And yes CBS news reported that there are thoughts of just removing Roseanne and continuing the show.
I feel she did this as self-sabotage, I really don’t think she wanted to go any further in the show than just this one season and was surprised that it went this far.
there’s been comedians that have said some pretty racist and vulgar things in the past and I’m not agreeing with what she said it’s horrible and disgusting! Like I said I think she did it on purpose I think she knew that it was that this would happen.
When she did it she wasn’t thinking about all those involved she was selfish very selfish and now she lives with the consequences of it her actions.
Roseanne learn from this open up your heart and give all humans kindness.
May I suggest volunteering in the community.
One of the strange things Roseanne had was her belief in a 9/11 conspiracy. Roseanne on the right and Rosie O’Donnell on the left. Goes to show there are crazies on both sides. lol
Well, all you pearl-clutching ladies, worrying about racism, bigotry and hatred — what say you about Samantha Bee showing a picture of Ivanka holding her son and calling her a feckless cunt? Then suggesting she get her way with provocative clothes and incest?
Or is that okay since she’s Trump’s daughter, and Samantha’s a beloved liberal? I haven’t heard anything about her show being canceled. The left is showing its underbelly and it ain’t pretty. Thank God America’s heartland saved us from degenerates running our country.
I expect full-blown hypocrisy and a double standard in 3, 2, 1 …..
I guess I’m in moderation because I voiced a different view and didn’t bleat along with the other sheep. So predictable.
You were in moderation over the use of the word incest. It’s a word I’d rather not see here, however it is relevant to this particular topic.
Thank you for explaining. I would have included that as a taboo word also. Samantha Bee’s comments will spark a very interesting exchange of ideas. Still got that box of wine? 🙂
Sally Field’s reply to the Samantha outrage says it all.
So about the wine… I kinda drank your share. Sorry.
The words were count and gored.
Amazing! Now the word I hate is being censored?
I only “count” one word corrected.