This will probably be part one in a three part series because Carole, Dorinda and Tinsley are some sort of a gruesome three some lately, One might say they are joined at the hip, particularly Carole and Tinsley. It seems at some point there was a falling out between Carole and Bethenny. It most certainly occurred when Bethenny was doing her charity work. I mentioned it to you all several times and few people really believed me. But that is when it started. Bethenny and Carole had a very bad breakup with each other, all the details of which we will probably never know. But they are starting to spill out in Carole’s blog this week things come to a head in the Berzerkshires on the next couple of episodes. So let’s get through this because Carole is very, very wordy this week. She has a lot of anger to get out.
Spoiler Alert: What would you do if your friend called your boyfriend, secretly behind your back, and asked him to go to Houston with her? Yeah, that happened. Stay tuned next week for As RHONY Turns…but let’s begin with this week.
Well, it would be pretty hard to do behind my back because my boyfriend would be spending a lot of time with me and it would come up in conversation. In your case however, you don’t have a boy friend. You have a boy toy. A boy toy that supposedly is a trust fund baby who does charity work in other countries living on communes farming beans, cooking and taking photos of asparagus and such. So while he is out and about with other young women his age making artichoke hearts and being a caterer, you two are “not living together,” “not friends with benefits” and a whole lot of other “nots.” So I really don’t see what the problem is with Adam,who is at most a friend you don’t see often, taking a phone call from someone with no romantic interest in him to assist her in her urgent relief work. What would I do? I’d probably offer to go with him as well and try to help out where I could. That is what I would do. I can only imagine you had some important business meeting to attend to at the time or perhaps you were on vacation.
I haven’t blogged in several years and now I know why…unlike my fellow Housewife, it’s not sport for me to voice opinions that may be hurtful to other people, including her…but this is why these blogs exists and also to correct the lies, insinuations, and false characterizations made on the show. So…ugh.
Actually, you haven’t blogged in years because you claimed it was a conflict of interest with the book you were writing but I believe you have yet to finish. Also, as we saw on the most recent episode, as well as previous seasons you have a problem meeting deadlines. Voicing hurtful opinions on the other hand is something you seem to have no qualms about at all.
I loved this episode! It’s important to be reminded not only of the devastation from Hurricane Maria, but of the enduring nature of the human spirit.
I’m glad to see my friend Bethenny step outside her affluent bubble, with her stream of rich boyfriends, rich friends with private planes, million dollar homes, and five-star resort vacations. One gets the impression this is the first time she’s witnessed real poverty. It can be life-changing. I know it was for me, many years ago when I first covered tragedies as a journalist. The shock of having, then losing, one’s home and all its possessions (and having the guts and dignity to soldier on) is awe-inspiring. It is partly why I quietly give money to charities and political campaigns I believe will make a difference in the world. And why, years ago, I created my own charitable foundation.
I love it when women who married well are so derisive toward women who built their own empire. You must have led a very charmed life if you never witnessed poverty until you got a reporter job in a foreign country. I can assure you there is a lot of poverty within 50 miles of your golden tower in your affluent bubble. Perhaps you should go take a peek. It takes a lot of entitlement to mock someone’s charity and then claim you did it better yourself years ago when you were “quietly giving.” This is not a good look.
It is a good use of celebrity, and I hope this journey will make Bethenny a wiser and kinder person closer to home too. From the looks of it she’s got a ways to go. But I’m not counting her out yet!
Gee I sure do hope she makes the grade with you regarding wisdom and kindness. If you’d like to see Bethenny being kinder closer to home, perhaps you could ask to go to her Dress For Success events.
We are now in Episode 7, and as I continue to say how proud I am of her, and ask her about Puerto Rico, she continues to be out-of-control aggressive, parrot back anything Sonja tells her, berate Tinsley (a woman who wrote her a $10k check) and insult me behind my back. And that’s just over drinks at Megu. Lol.
This “sentence” is extremely hard to follow. It seems like you are trying to say you were saying nice things about her and her relief efforts and she was out of control ranting about Sonja. What my TV showed was you and Tinsley giggling and trashtalking Sonja the second she came on camera. We can debate whether or not Sonja deserves such treatment on another day, but since y’all started in on Sonja within ear shot of Bethenny, she took it upon herself to attempt to help Tinsley see Sonja’s side of things. She then insulted you for doing exactly what she was doing, which was hypocritical of Bethenny, but she was insulting you directly to you face.
At lunch Dorinda is being verbally water-boarded, (that’s what we all call it). Bethenny does this often, you’ve all seen it: her uninterruptable talk pattern that leaves her victims helplessly nodding in agreement. Sonja does this too which may be why these two are attached at the hip now.Dorinda is being used as a pawn to further Bethenny’s agenda and she doesn’t quite know it — yet. Not only am I a high maintenance, eyelash-wearing, fashion-obsessed, childless friend who doesn’t have a job and isn’t interested in what’s going on in the world, but guess what, Adam is too (minus the lashes)! As a woman, it makes me sad to watch another women, who I thought was my friend, talk behind my back with such cattiness and disrespect. But it makes good television and in the end that is Bethenny’s one true friend. Pass the popcorn.
Feel better now? You seem very angry at Bethenny after spending every other season attached to her hip. You seemed to have no problem with her cattiness and disrespect then. Nope, back then you were slapping her on the back and encouraging it. Congratulations though, it seems Bethenny let’s you take her pawn this season since she’s not a very effective ally when she is always drunkenly slurring and needing subtitles.
All I’ll say about the latest bunch of insults, including the bizarre claim that I don’t have a career, is this: I will put my resume up against Bethenny Frankel’s any day of the week. When Bethenny was auditioning for B movies, I was travelling for ABC News to places similar to what you saw in Puerto Rico. After that I worked in publishing and wrote for national magazines, and now yes, I am on Reality TV. The irony isn’t lost on me that while Bethenny is gossiping about me over pizza with Dorinda, I’m working.
If Reality TV is your new career it is also Bethenny’s. In addition she runs several multimillionaire dollar companies and a very effect charity that contributes to her local area and many other American citizens who suffered from natural disasters.
The entirety of Bethenny’s career, other than some minor success she had as a caterer, has been in Reality TV. From Apprentice to Housewives and all that it has brought her — including launching her Skinnygirl business — Reality TV has been very good to her. She worked hard, and I’m glad to see she is giving back. I’ve been her biggest cheerleader. I show up at all her launch parties, from booze to sparklers to candy. Last year in Mexico, I wore my Skinnygirl hardhat with enormous pride.
Unlike Bethenny, I don’t need to be biting and self-righteous in order to make myself feel better, smarter, or more successful. I hardly recognize the woman on television shaming women simply for having different opinions and interests. Obnoxious lines like, Call me when you’ve had some success, set all women back. Ramona, whether you like her or not (I do) is a very successful woman. She has had success in business, gracefully navigated a nasty public divorce, and raised a thoughtful and intelligent daughter. That’s my definition of success. What’s yours?
Bethenny was referring to Ramona’s ridiculous putdowns about Bethenny’s wine business amid claims that her Pinot Grigio was selling well. Bethenny’s comment was perfectly appropriate. You’re suddenly defending Ramona now, why?
Since when is it ever okay to insult a woman’s accomplishments? Her career? Especially in 2018 when women have finally found the courage to speak their truth? It’s one of the reasons it was important for me to write about self-esteem for Cosmopolitanmagazine and its millions of young female readers. (Thank God I have a healthy amount of esteem or I wouldn’t have lasted one season with this flash mob.)
It would seem you are writing a 1500+ word essay insulting Bethenny’s accomplishments. Are you not aware of what you are writing? Your riveting article on gaining self-acceptance by not texting your ex was…uninspiring to young women of today.
Bethenny did get one thing right about Adam: He is richer, in all the ways that count in life, than Bethenny will ever be. Unlike Bethenny, Adam was 23 and dead broke when he created and ran an actual licensed charity. A not-for-profit that helped sustain a small farming community in Nicaragua. He fundraised and took money from his rent budget in order to keep the charity afloat. No five-star hotels, camera crews, or privates planes to jet in and out of disaster zones, but still he managed to do this and so much more. Two years ago, Adam was in Africa making a film for a not-for-profit children’s hospital. For free. This year he got straight off a red-eye from SanFran, ran the marathon in four hours, and raised $3,200 for North Shore Animal League.
How do flat broke people have a “rent budget” in NYC?
When Harvey hit last summer, Bethenny was partying in Ibiza, I was taking care of a friend whose husband had passed away, and Adam was working hard commuting three hours between clients each day. So, no, Adam couldn’t go to Houston at Bethenny’s whim. He is building his business, and he has to hustle — you’d think if anyone would understand that it’s Bethenny. How quickly she forgets the struggle. He suggested switching one client’s day but couldn’t afford to lose his day rate — certainly not to take pictures of Bethenny to post on her social media. So off she went to Houston with a professional paid photographer in tow to take pictures of her and the endless selfies she allegedly disdains. Yes, that makes everyone I know chuckle too.
You clearly need more friends and a therapist who will help you get over your obsession with the boy toy and try to find someone who is in the same, albeit sad, place in life that you are.
But the most priceless, pass-the-popcorn moment was the bewildered/bitchy look on Bethenny’s face when she said I was having a book party not for myself but for a friend. Rewind…wait for it. Another dig at me? [eye-roll] Yes, Bethenny, I took a short break from writing books while I am on TV.
A short break? And all she said is that the book launch was for your friend. Touchy much?
And yes, I support my friends, much like I did last season when my pal Linda Mason had an art gallery opening, and before that when my friend had a baby on her own. I celebrate my friend’s accomplishments. Because this is the way you support friends — by showing up. This concept, of celebrating others accomplishments, is a foreign one to Bethenny. In the 10 years she’s been on television has anyone seen her promoting a friend, especially one on the show? She barely shows up to support the friends on the show with her. She should consider changing her tagline from it’s more important to bStrong to it’s more important to bNice. Because if mocking, insulting, and shaming her friends is a sign of strength, she can keep it.
So get off my jock and if you’re going to come for me — you better not miss. You did a great thing in Puerto Rico, then you let your ego get the best of you. I’m still rooting for you… Until next week…
I hope this multitude of friends you claim to have are all reading this so they know that once you are unhappy with them you will mock, insult, shame and threaten them in public forums.
thanks for this Tamara!
Watching this last night – my WTF moment was Bethenny saying that she asked Adam to join and he
asked “what’s the comp” – In my world if someone is one pay cheque from being homeless, change jobs.
wow Carole wow!
But we all saw Bethenny’s money struggles. She hustled and made genius use of her publicity from the show. Now she is very rich. If Adam is doing what he loves and trying to keep his own business going, I totally understand him not being able to afford to leave for something without compensation. Especially because it wasn’t something he had weeks to plan and save for.
I know a lot of people who live pay check to pay check and lived that way myself for most of my adult life. I’m sorry you can’t understand that.
hey there just!!
my issue is – there are ways of communicating ” sorry dude can’t do it – tons of bills to pay” — his go to is ignorant.
And living from pay cheque to pay cheque is not a “shame” thing – it happens,how a person deals with it is the issue. If he literally has .5cents to his name, he has the ability to say, “let me call you right back” . – let go of ego and shame – and be honest and say, right now I can’t afford to not show up for jobs”.
Bethenny would have understood that – as she used to live out of her car.
For me – it is “how” the person deals with this and adam was all ego
Yup… there is a WORLD of difference between “I can’t afford it right now” vs. “What is in it for me?”… and Carole isn’t denying that Adam asked to be paid.
As broke as we saw Bethenny, if in the first season say Bobby had called up Bethenny and said “I’m raising money for this immediate disaster… would you come and bake for me/serve drinks for me… we pay for your transportation and the supplies” Bethenny would not have asked to be paid. If she was booked for another event, that is what she would have said.
(Honestly, if Adam was already booked with clients/events, etc… and Bethenny had said yes, you would be paid, would he have dropped those contracts?)
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Samuel & Erica
Bethany herself said Adam told her he couldn’t afford to forgo a paycheck for a week. There is no need to shame someone for that,
I thought I read she asked him to go to Houston for a day not a week. So confused with all the allegations flying around.
Go girl! A belated ….Right on!,
Perfect, TT!
I cannot stand Carole. She is even shallower that the ladies on RHONJ.
Carole sure is bitter….and it does not look good. The harder she tries and wants to make everyone see “how awful Bethenny is”, the worse she makes herself look. It was really an uncomfortable read-the purple pen was spot on!
I agree with you. So far this season Bethenny and Carole have made a few snipes at each other but each time Carole’s response is very overly dramatic, in her talking head’s and blogs. She is going to ride or die herself with Adam right to the curb, it’s going to be a long, lonely fall.
Me thinks she (Carole) doth protest too much……
Never liked Carole since she torpedoed the Bravoholic and pretended she didn’t. Perfect Purple Pen, TT
There are so many people who are insulated from poverty. Carole is one of them despite her ABC work.
A very limited, underling role at ABC…..ABC….ABC….. a book about an admittedly tragic period and calamity in her life (ghost written or not), no goals, in denial about her age, tweaks here and there around the…..area, and finds men her age “so old” (said with a CR smirk-giggle). Poor woman. Her disproportionate rage at smashed-up-but-successful Bethenny is very telling.
“berate Tinsley (a woman who wrote her a $10k check)” – nope, she didn’t write her check, she gave money to charity, not to B…
You know, in case of almost every HW she can blame her bad look on the editing. In case of Carole it would never work, she is really nasty on her own.
This is your best purple pen ever! What has happened to Carole? She has absolutely no self awareness.
Agree. TT is brilliant, incisive and balanced. Case in point, she merely has Carole’s number. She is neither showing favor nor easy contempt. Well done Tamara!
Wow! Carole tell us what you really think. Bethenny is gonna eat you alive at the reunion.Guess who Andy will side with?
Actually, I am not sure. Carole is the one HW he was friends with for some time before she came on the show. (I think he might have known Rinna a little)
But he also did hang with Bethenny after she left the show. I’m not sure what went down in terms of B’s radio show on Radio Andy, but both of them are aware that “business is business”. I do know he’s been genuinely impressed with using her hustle and skills on B Strong, talking about it on Radio Andy (and only mentioned he donated – not that he donated a whole fucking plane!)
Here is the thing – if I was asking my best friend’s HUSBAND for a favor like using one of his skill sets to VOLUNTEER to help with a CRISIS,
I wouldn’t ask my best friend. I would ask HIM as he is a GROWN ASS ADULT.
A grown ass man, if he really was booked up with clients as Carole insinuates, wouldn’t ask Bethenny “how much”, he would say I am so sorry, I can’t because I have work obligations. If he did all that non profit creation when he was dead broke, then why would he need to be paid now? So many contradictions to this mess!
Minor success in catering, then Reality… holy fuckballs. Skinny Girl is hardly a small catering company.
And um… isn’t Adam a personal chef much like Bethenny was? She started her career as a true entrepreneur with Bethenny Bakes, and I doubt one of his vegan recipes would sell as well as the Skinny Girl Margarita!
Oh, and as for career – Bethenny has written 8 books. How many has Carole written again?
I am so glad I came here to read the blog entry and not Bravo. I was JUST mentioning that as big of a fan as I have been in regards to Carole, I really can’t stand her this year. I continue to be in Bethenny’s corner as always.
Oh, and as for Adam being “dead broke” and doing those things at 23 – that is because he had a loving family as a safety net. I am sure that he knew if it came down to it, he could move home (if he had indeed ever moved out).
Like her or not, one would have to agree that is a vastly different experience than Bethenny’s. If I am not mistaken, her boarding school experience was because of a scholarship or a step dad that probably did it so she’d have some stability (or so he could party with the mother). We all know that after schooling, Bethenny HAD no safety net. Moving back in with either parent was NOT an option. I’ve never heard her mention another family member. Bethenny definitely had to hustle her entire adult life in ways that Carole should be more sympathetic to.
Oh… and even if I didn’t like the person, I would call two people out who were LITERALLY GOSSIPING where the person could hear them. Geezus.
Very well said Erica. You are right on and anyone who watched this show from the start knows how broke Bethany was. Carol sounds very jealous and evil spirited this season. Wonder if she had always been this way and just hid it. I know she really had a falling out with Bethany over the whole Mrs. Clinton for president.
I don’t really think it’s fair to fault Adam for not going with Bethenny because none of us knows the particulars of his finances at that moment. He does his own charitable work. Let’s praise him for that and not fault him for not doing Bethenny’s also. In general, I think we should just praise people for the charitable work they do and not fault them for passing on a particular cause at a particular time.
Exactly and yes it’s great what Bethenny did, but she seriously has always been very rude and condescending. She talks over everyone and doesn’t listen to a word they say. I don’t like Carole AT ALL either she was an ass over the election but Bethany is just as self centered and annoying as shit
I agree. Also since Adam is not part of the show, we do not get to hear his side of the story. It was not nice of Bethanny to throw him under the bus like that. She would be livid if that was done to her. At the end of the day it didn’t make or break her trip or her volunteer efforts.
Agreed. Bethanny can be loveable, but also be a bully.
Bethenny can be both reactive and, as even the Dor and Ram have noted, deeply, easily wounded. She is both the running bulls and blown glass. Carole, her once friend, has the resilience and skin of a snake.
She is one nasty bitch! Thanks TT for the purple pen.
Here Carole, have a carrot, then count to 10 tapping your hoove on the ground.
TT- you speak the fair truth. You don’t hit below the belt and you used Carole’s own words to magnify what nonsense she is spewing. Like I’ve said before, you are a verbal sniper.
Luv it!
This is my favorite purple pen yet! Carole is a bitter bitch. Bethenny should be so happy to be away from that misery.
They’re both bitter bitches, one no better than the other. Bethenny is a classic shrew. A harridan. Utterly. Carol is a case of arrested development who overestimates her worth at every turn
I’m here for watching these two try to be the big dog.
You’re right. But Bethenny shows emotion occasionally and doesn’t pretend to be some easy going hippie. Carole is anything but. She’s always looking for a reason to tear someone down while Bethenny is really good at destroying relationships and people.
I’m with you.
yes agree
Hi. Here I go. I have NEVER liked that fake Carole. She’s a wanna-be everything, succeeding at nothing. She is two-faced, jealous, lonely, bitter, angry and has a very ugly heart. Now maybe people will see what I’ve seen since the second her fuglyness showed up on RHONY. She is jealous of Bethenny. She tried being friends with her and it worked for a bit but I think B saw thru her FINALLY and thank God for that. She is jealous of B’s success since Carole has none, other than marrying Jackie O’s sisters kid and writing some maudlin book about the experience. Big deal. We all have had people in our life die. If we had a famous name via marriage attached to our nobody-in-real-life status, we’d get our books published also. And enough with her marathon BS. She walked. She didn’t run. So shut up about it already. Crying over it? Crying over walking? WTF?? She worked for a few minutes at a company that sent her out as a journalist to a few worn-torn countries, probably as dangerous as when Hillary said she had to duck bullets when in reality, there were none near her. She’s a fraud and a fake and liar. She buried her husband after being married for a short time and then started her parade druggie boyfriends, or friends with benefits or boy-toys or the 2:00 a.m. “Hey Carole, can I come over” relationships. First we saw was that skeevy musician from her first season, some creepy stoner, then this Adam- some ugly trust fund kid she picked up out of LuAnns kitchen- who is just as arrogant as Carole. Both of them seem to think they are above doing anything for anyone else unless a camera is nearby. And for her to compare these old hags eating lunch and bickering as waterboarding? Just goes to show you how out of touch with reality this hag-faced bitch is. (I have bad grammer, I don’t care.) She hasn’t a leg to stand on with one word that comes out of her mouth, not to mention, what’s with her clothing? When she was with skeevy musician, she dressed like some old hippie, then with Adam, like some 25 year old college drop out and now she’s attempting to look like… what? Old hag trying to look relevant? With those bones sticking out all over? Eat something for God’s sake. Beyond unhealthy looking but all worried about her mug so she gets her face done and stretched and pulled and injected and then wears clothes that you find somewhere on the street in Chinatown that have been wrapped in the plastic bag for a year or so but the store owners keep putting them out there hoping some idiot buys them. Cheap, ghastly, no class and girl? If I were you and had the extra income that you had to get that mug pulled, get that overbite fixed before you mention one word about what other people look like. And what’s with this friendship/bonding/girl crush she has on Tinsley now? It’s really creepy and unnatural. She reminds me of the sicko in Single White Female movie. Attaching herself to people. I could go on and on but I had to get this “ick” feeling I get whenever I see her fug out of me. Thanks TT for that purple pen. You nailed every single thing I was thinking!! On happier notes… GO TOMATO SEASON!!!
Yes about the bones! Her clavicle (collarbone) so prominently sticking out of the cut-out on her dress at the Cosmopolitan meeting was shocking!!! Why feature that???
When she tried the dress on, didn’t she think “no, this isn’t my best feature.” Bare shoulders or a cut-out on the back might have worked, but the framing of her totally visible collarbone in a cut-out hole was Halloween scary!
You are freakin amazing.
Dang, tell us how you really feel about Carole. ?
I think the “creepy musician” you find so appalling is in Aerosmith.
Carole is fine. So are the rest of them. I wish Carole had been more sympathetic to Sonya’s plight. And I’ve accused her here of having some white privilege, but the issues between Carole and Bethenny seem more like personality differences that were going to come out soon.
Wow, Gigi. I know this is a forum to express our opinions, but that is one of the most spiteful comments I have ever read. I don’t like Carole’s behavior lately at all, especially whispering about Sonja to Tinsley when Sonja was sitting sat the same table, within earshot, but I don’t think it’s fair to disparage her accomplishments or her marriage. Everything Tamara wrote was a direct response to Carole’s outrageous and clueless blog, not a putdown of the woman or what she has done with her life.
Carole was a very successful journalist, placed in a lot of extremely hostile and dangerous situations while she worked for ABC News. She received three Emmys and a Peabody Award and those aren’t given lightly. She met her husband while she was working for ABC News and, throughout their entire marriage from 1994-1999, while he was fighting a recurrence of his cancer, along with the requisite specialists, hospital stays, surgeries, and various treatments; Carole was his primary caregiver. I say all this, not in defense of her, but to show that there is a lot more to her than you give her credit for.
She didn’t come from a wealthy background, and didn’t rely on family money to get her degrees or the job as a journalist for which she received acclaim. She did it through sheer talent and hard work.
The way she dresses, and who she dates, is her business. As far as I’m concerned, the things that come up, and the impressions she makes while she’s on RHONY, are the things we have a right to comment on. Anything else is pure speculation and not fair.
Could not agree more, well said.
Love this and so agree English rose. Can we please not attack people’s looks but focus on the behaviour that they exhibit.
Perfect reply, EnglishRose.There is so much hate in Gigi’s comment, that she reads like Carole 2.0!
You got it right Ladies. If she can dish it out, then she should be able to take it.
More like Carole 0.5 or beta.
Current Carole at least knows how to construct a fucking paragraph.
WAHAHAHA!
Thank you EnglishRose. You said it far better than I could!
Amen.
Awesome. Thank You! Gigi, you really need to evaluate all this hate you have for a reality TV personality. It’s a little unsettling.
You have serious issues girlfriend. So much vitriol for someone you know virtually nothing about and have never met. You sound incredibly nasty and immature.
Frankly, I’m beyond disgusted. I only read half the comment and I need a shower.
You have a lot worse problems than, “bad grammar” (although that sucks too).
Gigi,
In addition to your terrible grammar, bitter disposition towards whom you deem ugly, and penchant for name calling, you seem to despise “hags”. Are you referring to mature women? I idon’t have a clue how old you are, but I assure you that if you’re a “younger” woman, you will indeed age…without pause. If you are already in your mature years, you might want to exercise some self reflection and find out why you have such disdain…no…pure hatred for women of a certain age. One thing is for sure, you are deeply unhappy, wit yourself, with humanity, and I pity you. Hopefully, you take a moment to wonder what happened that you hate a woman that you probably have never met. I’m hopeful that you’ll be ashamed of your truly heinous words and find some time to work on your soul and your words.
Carole should remember one of what I think is Dorinda’s great sayings “Say it ..Forget it….Write it …Regret it” & I think Carole will someday.
Saying that Bethenny doesn’t know poverty? I remember when B. first started #RHONY, & she couldn’t afford her rent & sold muffins in a grocery store! Someone didn’t do their research ….writer girl ? #justsaying
I applaud all that Bethenny has accomplished & what she has done with her success in return.
BStrong…. Carole
Please!!! Are you serious?? No offense but YOU haven’t done your research so your comment sounds all the more idiotic. Jesus. Just sayin’ I doubt very highly Bethenny has never known a day of real poverty. I bet she’d own that too. When she’s used the words, “poor” it was relative to the people she was hanging around with at that time and the women on the show. It wasn’t literal. When the show started she was living in a high-rise apartment in NYC. I’ve lived in NYC and around NYC all my life. I bet her rent was a minimum of 5K a month if not more. She was carrying $3k plus designer bags and wearing designer dresses. She was living the high life, hanging out with a wealthy crowd and living beyond her means-she was not poor. That’s a choice. There’s a WORLD of difference between that and poverty. I was home with my son when he was little and watched all those episodes too many times ( I’m ashamed to say). Bethenny definitely had a hard childhood-no doubt but her family was also very comfortable financially and she went to a very top notch boarding school.
For what it’s worth, SkinnyGirl was a new company at the time you’ve referred to and she there in store selling to get brand recognition-not to pocket the $3 a box to buy food . Lol.
For what it’s worth, I can strongly disagree with my friend-I can be enormously angry with her, irritated , hurt etc but that does NOT mean I am jealous. The fact that everyone goes there is incredibly childish to me. It’s back to middle school. It’s the Kim from RHOA retort. Someone disagrees with her therefore, “They’re just jealous”. It’s ridiculous. Everyone assumes that because of her success. Not everyone cares about the same things as Bethenny.
Well said about Bethenny and about people using the “you’re jealous” card when you don’t agree with what they’re doing, saying, etc.
Carole asks “What would you do if someone called your boyfriend….”
But he wasn’t her boyfriend!! She said they’d broken up!
She even faulted Luann for not reaching out to her “when Adam and I broke up.”
Sheesh! She can’t have it both ways. If they’d broken up, then don’t criticize people calling “my boyfriend.”
Also, she said her breakup with Adam was equivalent to Luann’s divorce, yet she certainly never seemed emotional about it. Even at the reunion when Andy asked for the best/worst moments of the year or whatever, she made it political, not about her love life.
The snark about Bethenny stepping “outside her bubble” is hypocritical considering the really snotty way Carole acted about Bethenny inviting her to Chinatown for lunch!! She was so nose-turned-up and “There are restaurants closer to my home we could have gone to.”
She acted like a child, not willing to try different foods and pouting over the dim sum style. Followed by a boring vanilla ice cream order at an exotic ice cream shop! I think Adam was too mature for her. She has a middle school age mindset.
She really hasn’t demonstrated being a person willing to venture outside her own bubble.
I never understood why Carole was on this show or why she lasted so long. My guess is for some reason she is trying to stay because finally the powers that be finally realized she is not relevant. Bade Carole, bad girl!
MizGrandma, This is absolutely what I feel about Carole. I just do t get what she contributes to the show. She is a waste of viewers’ time.
Remember when they were in London and carol called out Luann for wearing a cape after she wore one. I doubt Luann went out to a store just to buy a cape to imitate carol. She packed one for the trip S capes were fashionable. I found that whole statement to be self absorbed and her general treatment of Luann on that trip to be mean girl. That’s why I never trusted her. Now she is super vicious. Maybe she was really pushing Bethany for Adam to get paid and that lead to the rift. They are having a bitter divorce and their friendship is over.
If I remember correctly, Luann actually did go out and buy a cape.
Carole is a NYC elitist who prides herself on ancestry, special status( Kennedy affiliation) women of influence, journalists, people with her political views which she feels are the more educated and established,. In other words, she lives in her NYC bubble but ventured out and became worldly when she worked as a TV Correspondent.
Carole has actually spoken on the show and more than once (proudly) about her blue collar upbringing in the decidedly unglamorous town of Suffern NY. She has NEVER pretended or acted to the manor born. You have projected that onto her. She’s talked about her family and how simple and humble her background is.
She put herself through a very good college in the city and worked her way up as a journalist and producer winning several very prestigious awards-all on her OWN merits and BEFORE she met her husband.
You’ve projected all this shit onto her that isn’t true because that’s what you want to believe to confirm your personal bias. It’s kinda disturbing. It’s most likely your own insecurity and projection about the “NYC Elite” (please-that phrase is SO dated- talk about 1985) that lead you believe all that about her.
She ventured out into the world but did she ever leave the coasts in this country? You can see real poverty in the hills of West Virginia.
Sorry can’t stand either of them. And I don’t feel that Bethenny is a better person because she is very very publically doing charitable work. Sorry. Yea it is a wonderful thing that she and others who have had a lot of success should be doing. Giving back to tothere. So she is tooting her own horn instead of promoting her business this year She is stil a mean nasty person.
Exactly-can you say your name in your charity or say how much money your giving it on camera-how many times did B lift up the bag and say 125k and it’s soooo heavy!!! It’s all about her. She really could careless about any people in pain or suffering. This is just a new business thing. Each camera was panned on her crying face.
As for Carole-isn’t she allowed to dress/write, speak and be friends with who she wants? So what she chose to write now-she always tried to give the flavor she was above the bullshit-or meanness. Does that make her wrong? Because she’s not screaming in a woman’s face or putting her down on tv?
Totally agree, and always have felt this way about B. “I” don’t have time for Ramona’s shopping party because I’M too busy with Puerto Rico.” (I get it.) So come and watch ME get ready for this project. Watch ME show you my new investment in the Hampton so I can rent it fast.
That’s the significant point I agree with in Carole’s blog. If it’s not about Bethenny, she isn’t involved. Can’t wait for the over the top reaction to Jill at Bobby’s funeral.
Giving back to others. Just correcting my mistake
I’m betting Carol will have plenty of time after this season to write again. Bye bye tv job. Great blog, sadly the princess is perched too high as to get it. Deuces Carole ??
Aviva’s voice is playing in my head- “writer girl” lol
Best purple pen ever! Exactly nailed Carole’s behavior. Maybe Bethenny didn’t call you first about Adam is that you sleep till 1 in the afternoon everyday and , like she’s said before, very hard to get in touch with i.e. Voicemail box full!
Carole obviously doesn’t want to put any effort into writing anything based on her reaction to her actually producing a 1 page article. How many women would have loved that opportunity! Carole was just her arrogant self. I sure this scene was just for the show because any professional, friend or not, would have said “You know what, never mind and don’t let the door hit u in the ass”
If Carole had contacted Dennis about ANYTHING without letting Betheny know the specifics before or after, there is no doubt in my mind that Betheny would have a problem with it.
Re: Adam, maybe he didn’t go on the trip to Houston because he was strapped for cash, had a business obligation he couldn’t or chose not to change or just doesn’t like Betheny’s over demanding ways (Did you see the way she treated her real estate “partner” Fredrick on their show?) Whatever the case, NO ONE is obligated to contribute their time or money to B’s charity.
B is one of the rudest,self-serving, hypocritical personalities in all of the Real Housewives shows. Her charity work, while commendable, does not change that. I’m proud of Carol for having the balls to take B on.
If I ever feel start to be concerned or bothered over a girlfriend contacting my husband directly, it will be time for me to get a new husband.
Adam wasn’t her husband. He wasn’t her boyfriend. He wasn’t her “Friends with benefits”.
Adam was someone she supposedly broke up with!
She countered Luanne with “you never called me after Adam and I broke up” as if Luann’s divorce was on the same level as her maybe/maybe-not break-up with Adam.
Adam was her boyfriend, they had broken up/ taken a break. They clearly had and still have strong feelings about each other.
I would just make a quick call to my friend first, and see if there was an issue with me asking her very very recent ex to travel with me for a project (of any kind).
I like the new Carole. I think B’s work is admirable, but I have to say, I agree with everything Carole wrote, B is the real Ramona, a roller coaster of contradictions, who runs a charity for women, while tearing down any female she deems lesser than her.
She is undeniable agressive, even her supporters are aware of that. I used to be one of them. But, it’s too much.
Sonja was horrible to Tinsley, and B used it as an excuse to hop on the “Tinsley was nothing without Sonja” BS, all the while knowing it was a last season created storyline.
I don’t understand how the commentators agree over the last couple of weeks that the Sonja townhouse drama with Tinsley was well known BS, but then agree with B carrying it on in this weeks episode?
Hey there Stephane!!
I do agree that Sonja is off the charts disgusting to Tinsley, all last season and apparently this season. On National TV Sonja did not infer – she point blank said that Tinsley’s boyfriend pays for all of Tinsleys lifestyle! Sonja casually shredded Tinsley behind Tinsley’s back and then – there is Tinsley taking the high road – apologizing and squashing everything.
so horrible to watch Sonja smirking
For me – there is a difference between saying “I can’t” and “how much does it pay”
Very good point samael, one that I never thought of.
thanks Zen Trying
Hey Mate!
Good point by the way – re: Adam. I agree, there is a difference and I think Adam might be a bit of an operator. I just don’t understand the reason for the explosion; of bethenny’s aggressive and continual attacks on all women in her life. It would be great if all charitably donations and work was from a pure heart. It never is, tho. B included.
The goodwill she is demonstrating reflects on the other half of skinnygirl, which she is currently in negotiations to sell. There is a quote about how even the most selfless acts is steeped in selfishness (feeling good about ones self etc.) I’m by no means suggesting charitable work is bad or selfish – just that B is a hypocrite – as are we all, but she goes on the attack every chance she gets, even a BS made for Bravo storyline like Sonja has with Tinsley!
It’s too much for me
Good morning Stephanie!!
plus – can you imagine how offended Carole would be if anyone said to her – “where’s adam” and Sonja replied “his contract ran out”
The bethenny and Carole situation is like a huge public divorce, neither want to admit to their crap and now that Carole is “finding her voice” – she will def. feel the wrath of Bethenny.
Whoa, of course charitable work looks good but what Bethany did, how quickly she did and the people she gathered around her to help was so far beyond charitable work it’s ridiculous. The millions she spent is seldom mentioned nor is how quickly she got supplies organized and on the ground.
I’m old I never saw anything like what she did
Not taking away from her efforts whatsoever. Thats not what I’m saying.
B is a competitive type a person in life. Which makes her amazing in whatever goal she sets for herself.
I think she’s doing amazing work for good causes and the extra good pr is an added bonus to her. I don’t doubt she would deny that & I never said that was her reason for doing it. Just that no good deed is 100% selfless. Therefore, we’re all under that banner and I’m sure we all do our bit.
I think Adam is an operator, as she said. I think B is an amazing business & charity organizer.
I don’t think she is a nice person to other women on her show & I think she is extremely aggressive, which gets too much for me.
Come on, we are all layered. I can think her charity work is brilliant and dislike how she treats others in her immediate circle.
Also, I don’t think him asking to be comp’d is a huge deal. We cant support every charity we’re asked to donate to.
I chose ones closest to my heart. Domestic violence and clean water are my big ones. But I cant do much more (financially).
Exactly !! he want to know what it would pay,knowing she was doing a charity
When Bethenny said that – uggh – all kinds of slimey feelings about Adam.
Watching Fredrick get verbal breakdowns was not entertaining. It was unnerving. Watched one and 1\2 episodes and stopped. I liked them both but there was no balance.
Carole says she supported her friend Linda Mason’s gallery opening … well, wasn’t that the gallery opening with the pics of Carole (and her boobies) that she, Carole, wanted everyone to see!?! She may have been supporting her friend *but* it wasn’t a totally selfless act. IMO!
Brava!!!
I have always disliked Carole. Shallow
She still likes to remind us that she knew the Kennedy’s for a nano second. When was the last time she was seen with any of them or a Radizwell?
Decades ago
She may live in the bubble but everytime I see her apt I get a whiff of cat pee ? and that ratty dirty couch. She has always looked grunchey to me
agree…like her “hello kitty” stanks
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I am so confused by this.
I always liked Carol.
And. I would never ever talk about a former friend of mine this way.
I agree, speaking that way about a former friend is downright ugly, but a supposed friend… Ouch!
I cannot even with Carole this season. She is utterly unbearable. This commentary was everything I needed, TT!
Bitter?…..party of one?
I can’t WAIT to see Bethenny eviscerate Carole at the reunion.
I think Carole is unhappy and needs a purpose, her life seems really limited and vacuous and I think she needs to find something meaningful to do like Bethenny has. That being said Bethenny is being quite random and mean to Carole I think and Carole makes some good points. But I do find it really off putting her and Tinsley at their table giggling about Sonja! It’s hard for Carole to claim the moral high ground after that sort of immaturity.
Agreed! Carole really doesn’t have a purpose. That cookbook was totally an Adam-inspired project. She had never said anything about writing a cookbook before she hooked up with the chef. In fact at one time she was contemplating turning her kitchen into an office.
Contrast her with Bethenny: Bethenny has a lot going on.
She has a young daughter. Carole is childless. She has a real boyfriend. Carole sometimes texts and sleeps with an ex.
Carole talks about being on a reality show. Bethenny is on two!
Carole writes checks to charities. Bethenny is hands-on, calling, plus out promoting the cause on talk shows and through twitter to get donations.
On top of this, Bethenny keeps buying/remodeling/selling real estate.
Carole brings very little to the show. No extra characters (like Sonja’s interns/boyfriends, etc.), nor any projects. Her big story was running the marathon. Her workouts leading up to that seemed about like any of the other women’s workouts would have been.
I guess I’m just wondering when everyone is ready to admit… Aviva was right about writer girl… She just did an interview and summed Carole up perfectly.
YES Aviva was spot on
Carole has a ghostwriter
Carole is not who she pretends to be
I think both women have been horrible to each other and a lot of it isn’t on film. Carole just lacks the self-awareness to shut up. I think they both (Carole & Bethenny) look bad this season.
That’s it, neither of them are coming out smelling of roses!
This was a very mean blog by Carole. I think she will regret it. She tells Bethany not to shame women by shaming women….then she shames Bethany, a woman. She sounds very bitter, very angry. I’m dying to know what really happened here. I think Bethenny hit a nerve with Carole by saying she doesn’t have a job. Why can’t Carole meet a writing deadline? Because she doesn’t want or like the pressure of work! If Carole was so great as a journalist or reporter, why isn’t she still working as a reporter? She comes across as envious of Bethenny and that’s never an attractive trait.
Because being as reporter was something she did in the past. People like her like to brag “Oh I did marvelous thing 1, 2, and 3, when I was young ha. ha.” But, now she’s above it. She’s evolved and now a grown adult who is a writer. It would be poppycock to go back down from her zebra throne in her unlocked apartment to do such a thing.
My, My, Carole is extremely bothered. Seems so out character for her. Hmm…
Love when your purple pen comes out Tamara, you nailed it!
This is not a good look for her. T: is it possible this is the work of Beck’s influence as producer this season? It reeks of recent ATL drama.
Also B created a monster by puppeting Carole the past two seasons…she’s morphed into something new.
There DOES seem to be more drama this season. It’s disappointing.
Carole has a right to take offense to Bethenny essentially calling her a loser for not having a kid or career. she was derisive in tone when she said that about carole and tinsley even if it was true.
that said carole needs to understand that her being a journalist prior to 2003 does not amount to her having a career in 2018. so many women on this show are so stuck jn the past
So right! I think Carole is hurt, and I don’t blame her- but her life is far far removed from most people. She has experienced career success but I think she has got a little bit lazy and needs to find new purpose. Maybe Bethenny has done her a favour by firing her up to take a good hard look at herself.
Sorry. I know I’ve not been here for a while. I may have been ill, and may be on slight opioids (#parathyroid), but still, let me speak in ALL CAPS.
God I really want to. This woman. This WOMAN. FEIGNS TO BE… Eugh. I can’t. Thankfully in Britain there is still a class system. And quite frankly, I’m glad. As my grandmother once told me… “You can be terribly rich, but still common as muck.”
This woman is AWFUL.
Bethenneys relief efforts have been ALL OVER EVERYWHERE. HONOURED FOR IT. ARE YOU BLIND.
Sweetie, if your saving grace is having an old Kennedy’s sofa, my father owns the hills you where gawking at in Skyfall. ACTUALLY GO AND FUCK YOURSELF.
No, I’m sorry that was not needed. But FUCK ME THIS WOMAN. I didn’t even read the whole thing. Please tell me that was something redeeming.
Were. Jesus. FS Tamara. Someone stop me.
That was almost some one stip me.
I’m done.
Oh bollocks i said it on twitter.
Well.
Needed to know.
Enjoyed your rant. I wish I lived in Britain. Stayed in a ighthouse near Rye once, Seven Sisters…. What a beautiful place.
Miss you Mark!
I’m not around as often either.
You have totally made my night. Thank you!
Please be careful when commenting on people’s appearance. My appearance is directly effected by severe medical issues I’ve been battling most of my adult life. I’m 47 and look like I’m in my 70’s. I’ve had a liver transplant, a total hip replacement twice, spine surgery, extensive dental issues and in December I had my digestive system rebuilt. I’m very under weight and I hear comments all the time. My point is some people can’t control what they are going through physically. However, people can control what they say and their actions so I think whatever comments they receive is totally fair . Sometimes my opinion is leaning one way and after reading the opinions of TT’s followers, I get an entirely different point of view. Thank you to TT and everyone that shares their views.
Yeah we get that. I think in general we are talking about people who are very “in your face.” For instance, if you had spinal surgery and said, “I’ve never had spinal surgery, look at my spine, it’s better than yours!” Then someone may question it.
How does any of this make it right? To comment on women’s looks and how they dress or speak? I think this might have been started by the person who runs this blog. You have a very good point, and up and down these comments it seems it be ok to rip women a new one if they down fit into a stereotype or look out of place. I’m upset no one mentioned Karen Duffy-and her book, and the chronic pain she lives in each day. Best part of the episode
Princess Carole has surfaced. Samantha Markle must have been referring to Carole Radziwill when she wrote “Diary of Princess Pushy.”
She says that Bethenny “shames women for having different opinions and interests” uhh.. you did that to Ramona all of last year with the election.
She says “when is it ever ok to insult a woman’s accomplishments? Her career? Especially in 2018 when women have finally found the courage to speak their truth?” uuh… she did that to Aviva when Aviva wanted to write a book.
She may have had a good career with ABC.. but lets face it. Carole’s biggest achievement was marrying a prince with a socialite mama.
Carole is becoming the biggest diva, and – like Trump – she is better off not speaking.
TT, I do love you and your purple pen! You are right on! This is the sort of thing Carole should have written at her kitchen table late at night to get all her angry feelings out, and then she should have DESTROYED it. She WILL regret making all this hatefulness public.
So Carole is comparing her paid job and her connection by marriage to someone who is doing a charitable job, who just do “reality tv .
I guess if Bethenny had her “connections ” Puerto Rico would have been back up and running.
Carole doesn’t have anything on her resume other than Bravo since the early 2000’s. That must be what Bethenny was referring to about carole. Its a low blow but that is what Bethenny does. It was tame compared to what Bethenny did to Luann. CAROLE piled on for that. Carole loves for Dorinda to go nuts on Sonja. This is truly a case of can dish it but can’t take it.
At the same time I feel awful for Bethenny. I knew that one day Carole would be the recipient of Bethenny’s ire. RAmona said it on the walk over the bridge, she has no friends and would mess it up with Jason. That did go down the toilet. Dennis and Bethenny are on and off. It was a matter of time for Carole. But I would like to see Bethenny develop a close relationship be it a man in her life or a BFF.
Brava Tamara, perfect!! Can this be forwarded to Carole? TT, this is a 10+
That blog was screaming rage. I think she will regret it, if only for how bad it makes her look.
I wonder when Carol first heard/saw Beth’s remarks, e.g., Carol has no job. I am guessing it was recent given the rawness of her rage. I think that was the thing that really got to Carol because it’s true. She’s been living on 15 year old glories of a joint Emmy. Talk about old glories.
She has always seemed to be a shallow, snooty, self-absorbed woman who thought of herself as a member of NY’s intelligensia. She is pathetic, but not sufficiently pathetic for me to feel sorry for her.
And the Oscar goes to the Purple Pen! ? ?
Mark- thank you for kindly clearing up some comments I probably misunderstood.
Kerry, read your comment…you are one tough lady! No amount of life experiences can prepare someone for everything your body and mind have had to go to just to survive! Best wishes…
I speak for myself as a hard working, modest 2 income family. Honestly we live well (most of the time) but not with luxury. I watch a lot of the HW’s not even because I covet their pretty “things” but because it’s a world far removed from how I live and the people I know live. It’s an escape. I love me some fashion, I love the hair and makeup, jewelry etc…I’m a real girlie girl in that sense. I have found myself commenting on a person’s looks, after your comment I’m going to be more careful to be respectful of your and other persons situations that could seem hurtful. I do think that all of these “ladies” have nothing on you. I hope you hear it when you need it most, it’s you on the inside that is the thing of beauty. The cat fights aren’t what I tune in for, I’d like to see more honest interactions but, le sigh it’s not my call. Hugs!
Kipper- thank you for such an amazing, uplifting and supportive comment. When I re-read my post I thought maybe I sounded like
“Poor me”. In fact I feel just the opposite. In June 2007 I was given the gift of life by my angel, my hero, my organ donor and his family. During my hospitalizations I have had the strongest and most resilient women as my hospital roommates. Sadly a lot of them over the years did not survive. So even with all my health problems, I am the lucky one.
I love your comments!
I have to say I just love u and I usually love your purple pens! Your point of view is usually spot on for me…but for some reason this one rubbed me the wrong way…1st contacting Adam via phone, computer or “smoke signal” (per Bethany and Carol’s last exchange) is not polite, nor the respectful thing to do with your friends man. You ask your friend to ask their man if they would be willing to do whatever the task at hand is. Carol has every right to be annoyed by that and for the exact reason for what transpired after. No matter how Adam declined the request Carol would have known better a way to deliver that information to Bethany and as her friend and out of respect for the relationship, boy toy or not, it’s what should have happened. I personally don’t like all the attacks on Carol’s relationship. It’s disrespectful and petty and from all of us who would expect nothing less than common courtesy, no matter how we categorized our romantic relationship it’s wrong to jump on Carol for it. U always go thru ur friend for inquiries about their partner, its just good manners. Bethany was being shady, no question. I’m sure Bethany has some really good quip in her back pocket about how with the dire straits in Puerto Rico she didn’t have time to be considerate of her girlfriends feelings….Bethany is quick like that, but also wrong. She was wrong and should apologize.
I don’t think Carol was mean at all in her blog. In fact she was very concise and addressed every issue that came up with respect. In fact, I really like Bethany, always have, for she addresses things in a similar way. She’s a bit of a hard a** sometimes but that’s part of her charm and I don’t understand why everybody is freaking out if Carol returns some of that volley back to Bethanys side of the court. Bethany is a big girl. These r big girl issues and she handled them as such.
We’ve all seen Bethany become successful on TV. There was a time skinny girl emblazoned her car because everything she did was an attempt to further her business. To call Adam to task for being business driven? Hypocrite much? As to his financial situation, none of us know. If you ask me it’s all just a matter of zeroes, just because I need $100 get to me through the week doesn’t mean that Adam doesn’t need any less than $1000 for whatever reason. He doesnt seem opulent to me, dripping in gold or anything like that and if he was? So what? His choice to work and spend his “valuable things” time, money as he sees fit. And then to find out that Bethany actually paid her photographer to go, well that’s another matter in itself. Why didn’t she just pay Adam? Another slight and its not nice nor how a friend should treat u.
I don’t know why we have such a problem with Carol pointing out her successes prior to the show. I would have never known anything about the things she did had she not said. I do think it’s interesting Carol was over in war torn areas and has experienced this level of poverty and destruction and Bethany didn’t ask her to go. That’s weird. Bethany seems to need a lot of ego stroking or people to b in “awe” of her to be considered her friend. When she was in the car and telling Dorinda after the 1st stop “you have no idea, just wait” it was almost like schooling her and she needed to be the professor. I thought it strange. Was Carol competition in going? Bethany calling her an eyelash and fashion snob was not nice. Does B think shes the 1st person to b charitable? We all do things that for whatever reason strike a nerve with us… Apparently farming beans in Nicaragua is Adams soft spot…let Adam b Adam and Bethany b Bethany and everyone else be them. If we did maybe we could knock out all the problems in the world by playing to each others stregnths or interests and not calling out each other over my agenda not being yours.
Calling Carol out for being unmarried and uncareered was actually kind of pathetic. We all choose our paths in life, some less than others, but to criticize her life choices as if stupid and naive, is not supporting of women and im my mind in stark contrast to what Bstrong stands for, or what i thought it did anyway.
Until Bethany took issue with Carol I’ve only ever seen her be supportive of Bethany and her successes…and even after she said some pretty loathesome things about her and her man, her life choices, her lack of career and family, she still patting B on the back for her efforts. That IS being a good friend and Carol has the right to say so…even if she is speaking on herself.
I can’t say Carol was or is my favorite housewife, but I do get tired of people thinking because you like somebody you have to agree or disagree with them on everything they do. To like Carol or to not like Carol, to like Ramona or not like Ramona there are certain things that they are or that they do that are admirable and other things not so much. When speaking of friends we just hope the scale tips into the admirable side more than the other. When will we stop taking sides based on our preference for a person rather than issue at hand?
Bethany has not been nice to Carol. She HAS been on her jock. She HAS been taking shots at her and from where I sit, been “missing”.
PS. For the most part i do kno how to spell and the difference between “its” and “it’s” and that “i” should b capitalized… but i typed on my phone and used voice to text at times, so some things may have slipped by, forgive me if difficult to read.
I really like Bethenny BUT…………BLAH BLOAH BOLAH BLAH!!
Pathetic.
calm your tits carole
I think the best reason not to take Carole to a disaster zone is her extreme pickiness with food. Her food issues include not having foods touch each other.
A secondary issue is she is not timely. Many times we’ve seen casts assemble waiting on Carole. She will arrive 45 minutes late, smirking and not apologizing. (Once when questioned she gave a “wardrobe malfunction” answer.)
gotalovepink I agree with you 100%.
Oh and btw was i only one who thought the people in Puerto Rico didn’t seem all that excited with the cash cards?
I didn’t know if they don’t have anywhere to spend it or what but they didn’t seem all that shocked or grateful to my mind…no shade… I’m sure the last thing on their mind is how to appear grateful on TV but just an observation.
Again TT, love ur blog and recaps are the best! Ur inside info is beyond the best as well! Keep doing u! Xoxo
That’s what I was thinking Bethany handed them the envelopes and she was expecting everyone to fall down on their knees like she was Jesus Christ. She was like “do they understand what I’ve just done?” Where are they supposed to spend the money? Aren’t the shops dessicrated too?
Actually, there will be shops and services, etc. The coastal regions certainly are back accepting tourists, and mail, etc. is being received.
It also gives people some dignity and autonomy as there are no strings attached with the money.
I remember when Anthony Bourdain went to Haiti. Sean Penn met up with him. In the tent villages that had formed, businesses had also formed! Small little food carts, “restaurants”, etc. There was an exchange of currency.
Now cash cards would not have worked there – but Puerto Rico is not “third world”, it is part of the US. They have cash machines, wi-fi, etc. where there was electricity. I am sure that Bethenny was told by her organization (and the guy who has been doing this for 10 years) that the cash cards would be useful.
Guccinara, I saw Bethany passing out envelopes and cash cards never once did I see the attitude you just described.
Isn’t Carole supposed to be a journalist? If so, I would put my 7-year-old grandson up against any day of the week in a spelling, grammar and sensible writing of a simple paragraph any day.
Carole seems to think that since she was very far removed as a “Kennedy”, then she’s very self-important. She’s not. Perhaps she’ll visit the orthodontist this year with all of the money that she has. (My furniture is not great but I remember seeing photos of her apartment and the furniture thrown out from the hurricanes here in Houston look better than that mess that she bragged about the Kennedies giving her, which is not true. (Furniture in the White House is owned by the government, Carole, and is not just given to relatives when they leave office. It continues to be owned by the taxpayers.).
Don’t make fun of her teeth.
You also need to pay more attention. So many historical errors.
The couch was not from the Kennedys or even the “Kennedies” whoever they are. It was her mother in law’s couch originally and was about 50 years old and quite the interesting piece. Her mother in law, and therefore her late husband, WERE NOT KENNEDYS (hence the name “Radziwill”)
Also, the Kennedy’s were only in the White House for 3 years – so it is possible that they actually HAVE owned a couch or two.
Plus, in the living quarters of the White House, the president’s family can and sometimes does bring in their OWN furniture. Oftentimes, they pay for much of the renovations of the personal quarters, as the Congressional budget covers moving costs and renovations of public spaces like meeting rooms and the Oval Office. So, not necessarily furniture but carpets, painting the walls, etc.
IN ADDITION, the famous furniture and china? Most of the time that is PRIVATELY GIVEN through the White House Historical Association. It is federally owned, not paid for by the taxpayers.
I get that it’s not nice to comment on her teeth. However, some people aren’t paying close enough attention. Carole had work done on her between last season and this season. You’ll notice it if you look closely.
Carole composes, conducts, and performs the Passive-Aggressive Requiem starting in the key of D-flect and ending in the key of C-UnextTuesday. Carole may not have a job, but she worked a double-shift here and threw a whole lot of shade on herself while simultaneously attempting to yank the limelight off of Bethenny. I know – arrest me for felonious mixing of metaphors. I’m just gobsmacked by how petty and insecure Carole has turned out to be.
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Really Carole, supportive friend….wow! just wow! It’s not where you start off in life that defines you, it’s where you end up…
I remember in the earlier seasons of New York Housewives Bethany was broke and going from store to store trying to get people to just sample her baked goods that she stayed up at night making and packaging, she was a hustler. Her back story never included some wealthy man or husband to help her on her way, she was born to be a hustler and to be successful at it because she is intelligent, surrounds herself with like minded people, and doesn’t get baffeled by the bullshit people try to feed her. As a matter of fact, the ladies get pissed when she gives them advise about business, because they think she has an agenda, she gives a shit about her friends and she wants them to succeed, but some women just can’t believe it’s as simple as that. I give advise because I care about my friends, if I didn’t care then Fuck off, life’s too short and my advise is priceless.
Oh and Carole, media attention brings the cause to the forefront and more people get involved, including RICH friends, Bethany doesn’t need added attention, maybe you do??? Anyway you keep trying to be relevant. ?
You go Bethany! We are watching you!
Cheers
How does someone as poor as Bethenny claims to be, attend a private boarding school, go snowboarding in Aspen and travel in circles where the Hiltons and the Richards sisters are personally known to you. I get she hustled to build her business and is extremely smart and driven but poor people don’t live like she did in her younger days.
Boarding school – either paid for by her step father or scholarships or both. Just because her parents had money doesn’t mean that she had their support beyond her schooling. She has NEVER said that she was poor growing up – just that she had really shitty parents. (I mean fuckballs, the stepdad came on the show and basically admitted to or implied that everything was true – all the awful drama she was witness to in her mother and stepfather’s marriage, and that her mom was awful)
She WORKED for the Hiltons – she was a nanny for Paris and Nicky. Where the kids go, you go. She met Kyle when Kyle was NOT overly wealthy, but a working single mom. (They’ve said that B. was there the night Kyle met Maurico)
My understanding is that her father paid for boarding school, etc., but she did not have access to\or any real money. She nannies for the Hilton’s and or Richards, which is how they all met. The rest was all done, good orbad, on moxie, charisma, and work. I know several people like that_ in different spheres of society.
Way to go carol way to defend your Adam.
Carol has never been a fav HW she has never had a Story-line that I ever paid attention to. She has been very boring maybe after last year she was told if she can not pick it up a little then she needs to find other work. I just always wondered if she gets a check every month to live off of. She seems to have a plush life/ You have to have quite a bit of $$$ if you can afford to eat out everytime you are hungry she was gonna turn her kitchen into an office that I thought that was odd. when she talked of writing a book and wanted an office and couldn’t be depended on to make deadlines .
Carol has been supportive of Bethenny what really has Carol done besides reality tv ,she is not enoughr charismatic to get her own show ? makes you wonder was she paid to be on Bethenny’s show ?
Carol is acting bratty and jealous…
I would never of had went to another friends’ man and asked without my girlfriend knowing first I had a charity job for the guy
Some people do not see it as wrong and I get that too. Carol and Adam are together not together who cares it is her life but Bethenny overstepped a fine line with her friend ‘s man I have had so called girlfriends go aggressively after guys I was with so I see things different.
Bethenny was broke once if Adam couldn’t help he probably couldn’t or didn’t want involved with her because Carol is/was her friend .
Sorry Carol I think you are wrong with the rest of your Blog
Loved the purple pen TT
I cannot believe how many women agree that Bethenny needed to check with Carol before calling “her boyfriend” Adam. WTF? What are they, in high school?
These are grown people, and who knows if Adam was really Carol’s “boyfriend” at that time. Also, Beth was probably making a million calls to get a trip together. To have to call Carol for permission is just silly.
SO AGREE. Check with Carole? Bethany knows Adam (albeit through Carole). I’m her mind ” i need a photographer. LIGHTBULB. I’ll call, or get my staff to call Adam. He’s a perfect fit. ” WHY does anyone need to ask their friend first, when it’s busi ness? Where do you work, and what century are you in? Not to m ention, he’s not her husband, or even a legit boyfriend. Even if he is, I’m supposed to ask you if he can change my lightbulb? And so, you can be annoyed with my charity ? Flies in the face of any and all logic. Sorry.
Carole was happy to defend Bethenny’s horrible behaviour in the past, it’s just she’s on the other side of the fence now. She didn’t have a problem when Bethenny ranted at Luann or Ramona. She positively revelled in B attacking Luann for a start.
But she hit the nail on the head about B not celebrating other women’s success. How many times has B held a brunch or party when it was just a marketing exercise for Skinny Girl products? For Chrissakes, remember the Skinny Girl snow board?!!
I really like Carole sans Bethenny.
I feel like Bethenny picks one person to be friends with & film, this year it’s Sonja. Bethenny treated Sonja way worse then Tinsley ever could have, refused to film with her & made sure she got limited screen time during a time when Sonja desperately needed money. I find Bethenny is a real bully however I am so impressed by her work in Puerto Rico, like blown away impressed. I cried watching them hand the money out, so heart wrenching to see where these people sleep & the children..I am so glad someone like Bethenny stepped in. She gets things done.
This is a very bad look for Carole. Carole had put herself on such a high pedestal of charity. She’s salty AF that Bethenny knocked her right off. Carole is all bravado and no action. Bethenny brought that truth about Carole to the forefront. When’s the last time Carole has done anything other than chase after a boy who does not want her?
Carole needs to do some serious life inventories. She’s reduced herself to a high school girl level chasing after a boy and being a mean girl. She will never end up with Adam, someone who needs to experience life and make a family with a woman in his age group. How sad.
She actually ran the NYC Marathon (or walked as some claimed by her time) 26 miles to catch Adam.
She acted like running the Marathon was an idea she came up with on her own out of thin air. So I was shocked as shit to see her greet Adam (and I think he was with a female friend) at the start area.
Bethenny went to work putting together charity efforts and enlisted the help of skilled people who might donate their time, so she reached out to Adam, and somehow Carole thought she was going behind her back to whisk him away to a city that had just been thoroughly devastated by a natural disaster, for what? a romantic getaway? For a woman her age who implies such wisdom, she is acting like a 15 year old. I’m starting to think Carole is just as stuck in the past as Sonja has ever been. I also find it interesting that as much as she fancies herself a champion of women and being kind, she is the one going to great lengths to put down, mock and generally shit on someone she is supposedly “still rooting for”, Bethenny has had very little to say publicly about Carole.
Big talk from someone who married Kennedy Adjacent and pretty much collects checks for being the self appointed Patron Saint of widows.
Well mystery solved. Bethenny wronged the boy toy. I don’t think Carole is this confident ‘girl’s girl’. She is that girlfriend who always ditches you to hang with her man.
This, and Dorinda’s blog last week ‘That’s Dr Medley to you!’ are the nastiest I have ever read since the housewives franchises started with OC all those years ago. I just don’t see this evil thing Bethenny has done.
In addition, Bethenny is tough, but I bet these blogs really hurt Bethenny. I think she really cared about these ladies and in some ways she is very fragile. I feel bad for her.
This is why RHONY is my favorite franchise.
Thanks for the time and effort TT for this great purple pen post.
They are the best. So much information which sometimes I need spelled out, I get.
Wow! These must be trolls! The America that I live in people cannot and do not take off for a week without pay (charity or not) nor a they expected to! Adam had his own charity before starting the show! So try again! I don’t know any of these people but Adam is closer to middle class than anyone there! As for teachers, doctors, etc volunteering, Girl please! As a former Federal government worker, the volunteers are normally paid their salaries during crisis work! So try again! It is easy when ignorance is the color of the day to pick on people and paint them as terrible! Stop shaming regular people for being regular people! If you took a week off and went to Puerto Rico, then I applaud you! For everyone else, stop being a hypocrite!!!
The above comment needs several more exclamation points!!!!!!!!
There are people who have and do take unpaid time off from work to do charity work in other countries. Not everyone who volunteers for everything is paid federal money. My good friend is head ER nurse at our local hospital, she and several other room time off and used their own mo eye and resources to purchase supplies they would need and flew to Haiti after the earth quack. They were there for 2 weeks and helped many people. Then after the terrible hurricanes hit Haiti my son and his youth group, 15 teenagers and 5 adults went to Les Cayes Haiti and spent 2 weeks. They raised over $20,000 to go and built 5 houses, put together a bds program and hosted a community dinner/ party for more than 600 people. Sometimes people do things from the goodness of their hearts and not for recognition.
“Former Federal Government Worker” … that says it all.
Carole and Bethenny were always a weird fit. Carole is so low energy. She looks like she’s constipated most of the time, and she seems to live in a past where she may have taken vitamins for a few years. Bethenny has vapor trails running off her shoulders as she flies through her life. That said what they all have in common is “me, me, me.” It doesn’t work so well for relationships of any kind.
Hang on everyone… Its a bit weird that Bethenny asked Adam without telling Carole – I would feel the same in that situation. I’m wondering if it’s true that B then took a paid photographer…? She slammed this guys character across the world, but she has an issue with people doing that to Sonja… same same but different if you ask me?
Bethenny’s PAID PHOTOG was employed by Bravo.
I call my friends husbands for things and don’t ask permission, hell they call mine also. It’s called being and adult and not trying to control others.
Takes me five seconds to text a friend to ask if they have somethibg planned, before asking their husbands anything – and in all reality I rarely need to… I think it’s polite – and not controlling at all. My question is, why would she take Adam and not Carole? Weird.
OMG, Carol was and is not married to Adam. We don’t even know if he was her “boyfriend” at the time. And she needed a photographer — I don’t see that as Carol’s talent.
I can’t believe the 1950s attitudes women have about their “man.” They are adults and there has never been any indication that Bethenny was “interested” in Adam for anything other than photography. smdh
Are all of you that insecure about your relationships?
1000% And I don’t think it matters if they are married, dating, or just friends, the “check with me first” policy is dumb. If a female is that concerned about her man, her girlfriend is not the problem.
I wonder if Bethenny would think it was weird if Carole called up Dennis to take him away somewhere for work…? – without so much as a quick mention to Bethenny. Since they arent together now, it should be totally fine actually.
Ps. No need to ‘shake your damn head’ at me. Is it ok if I say what I think? Or is this place only for people to comment if they ‘1000%’ agree with you??? Why so accusatory and aggressive? Because I’m different and I dont agree with you? Please.
You still didnt answer my original question re. Why she would ask Adam to go and not Carole – if theyre still friends???
It seems she needed Adam’s talent as a photographer. Carol had nothing to offer.
Carole is so uninteresting and gross. Seeing her this upset in her blogs and interviews has been a joy for me. Shame on her for being such a hypocrite in regards to Bethenny. Let’s say everything she’s saying about B is true. Well, she’s been supportive of it for several years now.
Thank you for the purple pen. It was needed!
She QUIETLY gives money to charities…..oh my that’s telling. I also wondered about the cash cards, like are there atms full of money accessible to people?
Ramona’s Blog: Damn! they are all coming hard for Bethenny this year.
Carole never comes across as a happy person, but for whatever reason she’s desperate for attention. She and Bethenny have the same attention-seeking behavior, but B is more in-your-face and C is passive-aggressive. It’s like they both have a checklist – I did THIS, so I’m a good person. Look at me. Validate me. I’m better.
I don’t think the issue between Bethenny and Carole has anything to do with Adam. I think Bethenny felt threatened and abandoned once Tinsley and Carole became inseparable. Once they started slewing insults at each other, the friendship has shattered. I actually felt bad for Bethenny at the table though, she looked like she was ready to burst into tears.
I don’t think this is about Adam either. I’m tending to think this feud is based more on “working” and “not working”. I see this a lot, an under-current tension between women that work and those that don’t. It is hard for me to explain. Bethenny works hard and is raising a child, Carole doesn’t work (although she claims she is) and has a lot of free time. Tinsley doesn’t work either and she and Carole started spending more time together. I think one has said or done something that bruised the other, then it festered until filming time. Dorinda and Ramona have been kind enough (not!) to pop the boil.