I’m looking forward to seeing Bethenny do her thing in Puerto Rico tonight; however, taking Dorinda with her was a big mistake. Not only did she embarrass her in front of her philanthropy partners, when Dorinda gets back she is going to dumping fuel on the fires that are already burning between Carole and Bethenny. I am not thrilled about the real time bond between Carol, Dorinda and Tinsley. But it is what it is.
So I’m just going to cry through this whole Puerto Rico stuff. It’s just heartbreaking. I would have had a hard time spreading the wealth and would have just handed fistfuls to the first people I saw.
Wow, the jolt of going from that to Ramona and Sonja is bad for the nerves. They are in a big limo headed to do a promotional for some store. It’s a thirty minute drive. Sonja misses Ramona but I don’t think Ramona cares about Sonja anymore. They do seem to have drawn up a temporary truce.
Luann is just starting to work on her cabaret show. Luann once sand on Broadway for Liza Minnelli? Is this like the time that Madonna came to Sonja’s fashion show?
Oh we are back in Puerto Rico. It’s dark out now There is no electricity. The people are staying this is the first money the have gotten. The money that is supposed to be going to Puerto Rico is not getting to the actual residents. Or at least was not at that time.
I got all confused because I realized I didn’t have any photos and now it seems like we are at dinner with Bethenny and everyone except Dorinda who was too sick to come to dinner. Bethenny kind of brushes off talking about Puerto Rico since Dorinda is not there. She wants to hear all about Chicago with Scott. It was great, and they are back on. Sonja shows up late and Bethenny and Sonja start chatting about some guy that Bethenny fixed her up with who she enjoyed going out with. Immediately Carole and Tinsley start trash talking Sonja saying that Frenchie’s contract expired. Sonja can of course hear all of that. Bethenny feels sorry for Sonja. Bethenny sticking up for Sonja really pisses off Carole and Tinsley. Carole has the nerve to say something about Bethenny and mean girl gossip. That has to be about another subject entirely because Carole and Tinsley were just enjoying meangirling Sonja within the earshot of Bethenny and Sonja. Carole and Tinsley are the mean girls at the moment. Bethenny tells Carole she always chimes in for whoever is sitting next to her and tries to speak on her behalf. That is a very liberal quality that bugs the hell out of me. I hate when people are offended on behalf of some other person or group of people who they think they have to defend because the other person or person is so downtrodden and helpless. It’s offense to the person they are being offended on behalf of.
Carole is writing a little blurb in Cosmo for their online page. She says she could write a #metoo about that Hollywood producer, presumably Weinstein who apparently told her if she would rub his nipples for 30 seconds he’d come. Gee, Carole. thanks for sharing. She seems very flippant about the subject. Carole has a problem with deadlines. It’s like 500 words. She’s a professional. What the hell else does she have going on.
Bethenny and Dorinda go out for lunch. Dorinda seems VERY AWAKE. Bethenny says she asked Adam to come do some photography and publicity for Puerto Rico and he wanted to be paid. She says no one else that she has asked for anything asked to be compensated. When there was no pay, he was not interested. Bethenny says that she and Carole have been a bit off. She is focused on Puerto Rico and Carole has more in common with Tinsley because they are both single with no kids.
Sonja is one of those people who fell for whatever interior decorator started karate chopping the tops of pillows. I laugh at those people. Sonja has Lu and Ramona helping her paint some outdoor furniture. I can’t believe they actually painted it. Can they come to my house?
The all cast is a party for Carole’s friend Duff who wrote a book on chronic pain. Perhaps her chronic pain is by wearing a giant metal elephant cock ring as a bracelet? Because that was the hostess gift. Le sigh.
Ramona starts telling Carole right away that Bethenny called her a puppet. Carole was there for that conversation and she knows Bethenny didn’t say that. I love how Ramona included herself instead of Heather as one of Carole’s puppet masters. In her talking head. Ramona says that Carole is in denial. It could not possibly be that Ramona is simply full of shit about what she is saying despite the fact that we had more video footage to remind us exactly what was said earlier in the episode.
Drunk Dorinda manages to knock over a glass or two at the vodka fountain. I am floored at how good Bethenny is at making Dorinda drunk! Bethenny is just now getting out of the car and she already has somehow pour alcohol down Dorinda’s throat and has he looking like a fool. However does she do it? Is Dorinda embarrassed? Of course not. She says that is actually good look when a guest starts breaking the stemware. You know who else thinks that everything they do is magnificent? People on coke. Don’t ask me how I know this. But I do miss being the most beautiful girl in the room that everyone loved and everything I did was perfect. I’m just saying.
Bethenny arrives looking chic in all black with the party in full swing. Is this a good time to mention that Carole is in a leather jacket and biker gloves circa Madonna 1983? Because she is. Carole questions Bethenny about whether or not she called her a puppet. I find this incredibly scripted because the conversation in question was between Carole and Bethenny. Ramona was simply someone at the table. It’s not like Ramona is saying that Bethenny said something behind Carole’s back. They were in a conversation and Ramona’s version is nowhere close to what was said. In fact, Carole repeated it back to Ramona and corrected her. So is this really all Carole has when production tells her to stir the pot with Bethenny?
Again with the choice of attire. New York is super snobbish about being on the cutting edge of fashion and being the fashion capital of the world. So, why do so many of these housewives miss the boat? I’m looking at you now Tinsley.
Oh HELL YEAH! Next week is the Berkshires where it all goes down. Drunk Dorinda has confidential envelopes for all the girls. It’s going to be a murder mystery party this year. I’ve sort of always wanted to go to one of those. Sadly, I think an actual death is possible at this particular party.
Tinsley pulls Sonja aside to try to put the past behind them. Tinsley is very grateful and apologetic. They hug it out. How long until Sonja fucks it up again?
Drunk Dorinda wants everyone to know that Tom threw a New Years Eve Party in Palm Beach on the same yacht the engagement party was on the year before. No wonder LuAnnn lost her shit in Miami. Flashback to Dorinda’s drunk toast on the boat. Flash forward to Drunk Dorinda pleasant day.
Carole the princess thinks banging on a wine glass is a civilized way to the attention of party guests. It’s especially tacky when the glasses are plastic and the banging knock the foot of the glass off.
I don’t understand why there are tacky shoes and handbags all over the walls of this place. It’s supposed to be a rental space for parties. It looks more like a Pay Less Store.
Next week: It’s a murder mystery party in the Berkshires and things with Bethenny and Carole BLOW UP!
My favorite comments of the night, “Sonja sticks out like a buck tooth” and,”Carole and Tinsley have more in common because neither have kids or JOBS”. Bethenny never fails me with the shady one-liners.
Her efforts in Puerto Rico are so commendable, I felt like she wanted Dorinda to share her experience with the group as not to appear to be tooting her own horn, and also to share how Dorinda had been personally impacted by what she saw and possibly to encourage this group of middle aged women to leave the petty, superficial NYC socialite behavior in the past and focus on real issues that real people deal with everyday.
She shared it with Dorinda so Bravo would film. If it’s only 1 housewife then it’s self-filming (Like Kyle on her family vacations in the past).
Even better, she said they’re not married, don’t have kids and have NO CAREER! SHADE
The trip to Puerto Rico was heartbreaking. God bless Bethenny for going and, yes, it was a mistake to bring Dorinda. I love the way Bethenny stood up for Sonja at the dinner. And Tinsley – REALLY annoys me in her constant Patti PlayPal dresses. Carol has a horse face. I constantly expect her to let out a whinny. Dorinda appears to be inebriated on many occasions. I usually do not care for Lu’s singing – but I LOVED the way she sang Happy Birthday.
I just about died chocking after reading this comment
Ha!! Patty play doll! Sad face and happy face at the same time!
I kept thinking her dresses remind me of saloon girl dresses but the Patty doll nails it. Tinsley has the mind frame of a little girl.
Yep, Carol has a horse face.
I still like Dorinda and want her to get some therapy. Maybe this trip will inspire her to help others in a real way which will help her heal.
I liked Lu’s singing too.
Carole is so boring she needs this rift with Bethenny to stay on the show. Bethenny is amazing. She can be abrasive but she is honest with you and not two faced. Maybe B strong charity can raise some money to shave down Carole’s horse teeth.
I guess not everyone can look like Kathryn Dennis.
Made the comment because of Carole’s attitude, or would never mention anyone’s looks. She acts like she thinks she is “Astor’s Pet Horse” – and above everyone else – and, imo, it is arrogant and annoying. This has nothing to do with KD, so the gratuitous jibe is misplaced and unnecessary.
It’s spot on. Reread your post.
Ok, Spunky. Jibe away. But your need to bring KD into something that has nothing to do with her is a little odd.
Not odd. You gush over Kathryn every week and then make fun of someone who isn’t as attractive of no fault of their own. Petty, and so are the other mean girl commenters.
No Spunky. I completeky reject your false characterization. I have protested the mistreatment of Kathryn by cruel people, the way that Carole and Tinsley “mean girled” Sonia, siggering about her in the corner of the restaurant – so that she and everyone could hear them. And Bethenny called them on it. Good for Bethenny. Stop projecting Spunky. You sound like Carol on her blog. Go read it!
Lol. Good deflection.
Yes, Carole does have a slightly equine look, but of course, it’s a very high-class steed, with Kennedy connections and a title.
Those titles and connections don’t mean much anymore, even in Kennedy-land aka Massachusetts.
Omg, I’m dying!!!!! LMAOOOOO!!!
The Puerto Rico scenes broke my heart. They should have gotten aid from the US and I’ll leave it at that.
Carole is a mean, petty bitch, especially since her boyfriend who is 25 years younger dumped her. She has a lot of experience and yet she does nothing and gossips. Oh wait she’s going to write a man article for Cosmo? Please. Cosmo is anti feminism as far as I’m concerned. Between the constant air brushing and “sex tips to please your man” I wouldn’t even read in a doctors waiting room.
They did get aid from the US.
Not enough obvious. It took Trump what— weeks to go there in his stupid MAGA hat to disrespect people by literally THROWING ROLLS OF PAPER TOWELS AT PEOPLE!! Ffs. Epic failure and there’s no excuse for it.
The US government did send a lot of aid. The Puerto Rican government did not distribute much of the aid to it’s people and certainly did not do so in a timely manner.
Do you not realize Puerto Rico is part of the US? Because Trump literally doesn’t know – he really doesn’t. He thinks it’s the same as throwing some fruit in people’s faces in Haiti.
Do you think Texas, or Maine, or Nebraska would ever be without electricity for half a year? Or that their $300 million electrical grid repairs would be contracted to a 2 employee company in Montana? No.
Was that directed at me? Because of course I know PR is a US territory. Hence my comment that the US government did jack shit.
No Trump literally doesn’t know PR is part of the US and even when he was told by one of his “people,” he still didn’t give a shit. Sorry, this has zero to do with the rhony, but damn…I loathe that man.
The US did send aid. Bethenny went to the mountainous parts the others haven’t got to yet. I wish the whole show would of been on this subject. Just heartbreaking and then have a month of rain after the hurricane is just brutal. Thank you Bethenny and colleagues for your efforts. Even Andy rented a plane to send supplies.
I think he’s great. But everything is his fault isn’t it?
Who’s great, Trump or Andy? Neither is worthy of anyone’s admiration so your answer was extra confusing.
I m pretty sure Trump knows PR is US !! He has a resort there!! But thx for the ignorant statement!!
I just came back from Puerto Rico on Sunday. There’s still towns without electricity or water. The media only shows the tourist town like San Juan. If they go deep into the island, they would see the REAL damage.
Carole is trying way too hard to look young and hip. It’s not working. My husband walked into the room during her talking head and asked, “who is that old bag?” Plus, I can’t believe you watch this crap. Someone in my house is deleting housewives from the dvr and he’s the leading suspect. At least I can use bravo now.
“Someone is deleting housewives and he is the leading suspect” HAHAHA and i agree carole is trying wayyy to hard…i get the feeling she is way more into Adam than he is in to her
Adam is using Carole to be in the show. Was it bethenny that called him an opportunist? I can see that 100%
Oh sure, Adam is such a camera hog. I think he been featured on-screen about a total of 10 minutes since he started dating Carole.
Maybe at contract time they told Carole it’s her last season unless she brings something to the show. They don’t usually give them that favor but since Carole & Andy were friends pre-RHONYC they may have done her that favor.
Carole is horrendous! Such a slap in the face to pair her up w Tinsley – who has the brains of a 10 year old girl!!
We also had a few things going on here in the US at that time. Hurricane Irma for example. I live in Florida and was without power for 7 days and Houston was nearly devasted. I believe we should and did help Puerto Rico but our first priority should be our home front. PR is a US territory and not a State. They have voted and do not want statehood.
“On Sunday 12th, 2017, Puerto Ricans voted on a non-binding referendum on the island’s political future. Statehood winning 97% of the vote, but the participation rate was only 23%. For the island to become a state, it would need the approval of U.S. Congress and the president.”
Republicans are against this as it would cause another blue state to join the union. Your comment is despicable. Puerto Ricans ARE AMERICANS and part of our homefront just like Hawaii and Alaska. You are sadly misinformed, and apparently heartless.
Watching Puerto Rico still be so devastated was really heartbreaking, so many have nothing left. To see those houses just destroyed and to know there are people there trying to eek by in life brought me to tears. Those people were so happy for anything they received from them. Bethenny put her money where her mouth was and went to work to do all she could not expecting a damn thing in return. She didn’t look for media coverage or anything she just got to work. I wish Dorinda was in a better place emotionally and could have really understood it all. She got a bit of it but not what she should have. Ramona only wants Sonja around when nobody else is there for her to hang out with. I really feel sorry for Sonja, a few years ago I wanted to punch her in the head and stop with the Nigerian football team and toaster oven. Now I think she maybe needs a long stay at a care facility. I like Tinsley, she is kind of annoying yet I just love her. Carole has worn on me, she is a bit too old to be doing some of the crap she is. Yes the marathon was awesome and she did something so many of us never could but she still thinks she is a hot 32 year old. Luann isn’t a singer, the flashback to her in the recording booth was like a cat in heat yowling.
Sonja mourns for her past life and it is disturbing to watch. I haven’t known anyone to be so stuck and unable to get in the moment.
That said, Sonja isn’t mean. Dorinda didn’t say one word to Sonja about being angry over Sonja’s negative comments during the walk. Instead Dorinda went straight to work getting Carole and Tinsley good and angry at Sonja. It is mean girl 101. Then Dorinda screamed at Sonja about her dead husband with her angry friends taking her back. Mean girls never fight alone. They always have back up and that is exactly what Dorinda had with Carole, Tinsley, and Ramona.
It is so uncomfortable to watch a group of women treat one person so poorly. It says a lot about Bethenny that she is trying to help Sonja. Bethenny is showing a lot of character this season. Seeing Bethenny help with hurricane relief showed how much heart Bethenny has. I’ve always been a Bethenny fan and find her to be simply amazing.
I find her amazing also !!
Me too! She is a successful business woman – trying / succeeding to b a good mom!! She gets a lot of crap bc she is aggressive but I take her over simpletons Ramona/Tinsley anyday!!
Sonja IS mean. It’s mean to go to the press and say nasty things about your castmates and it’s mean to insist that Tinsley’s boyfriend is paying for everything, including the gift card, when she doesn’t really know the facts and it’s mean to sit at a table and just throw out cruel statements about another guest. I hate what’s happening to Sonja. I hope she gets the help she needs.
I agree. Sonja started all of this by telling everyone what an ungrateful house guest Tinsley was.
I’m 4 fricking minutes in and I’m bawling! Sorry TT, haven’t read the recap or comments, just wanted to share that.
When did Carole get into “fashion”. Is she really so shallow that she believes that a designer label will be recognized and therefore make her fashionable? the pajamas to breakfast with a gold chain belt? Oh well NYC. The coat was beautiful though.
Is the season going to be filled with Carole & Tinsley being mean to Sonja. Ramona is playing both ends against the middle and Dorinda rages at her if she isn’t busy making a fool of herself. I’d rather Bethenny takes them all to PR and put them to work. That would be a great season.
OMG freaking hilarious recap. A+++++
It’s kind of disturbing for so many female commenters dragging women for their looks here. Or saying someone should not feel good about herself because she is old. It’s sad.
And Puerto Rico IS the US.
Yes well, Tom Sandoval does the same thing. He wears labels and sometimes comes off looking ridiculous. The thing is, Carole began the show as a committed writer who was serious about her work. Now she has changed. She hasn’t written in several years and instead has delved into haute coture. This is new for her, she seems to be headed in a backwards run.
Or Dorito or Erika Jayne….labels, labels, labels.
I am sorry TT, but Carole’s fashion choices scream to me – old lady with seven cats.
And it doesn’t help that Carole is mean and condescending. So, I have no problem saying she looks old and foolish. Tit for tat.
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I agree with you T.T. Bravo!
B’s work in PR is amazing, she truly cares and it shows. She’s a better person than me, any time I’ve seen mass poverty, I just felt so overwhelmed, she’s gritting in and seeing light and advancement, admirable! Probably why she’s so good in business as well.
Unpopular opinion: The rest though, I have to disagree. B is aggressive, really aggressive and hypocritical. The Tinsley drama is 100% Sonja trying to create a storyline off the back of an old scripted storyline, so of course Tinsley was pissed. B knows full well it was a fake story line, and that Tinsley said thank-you many times and Sonja spat in her face.
B defending Sonja whilst sitting next to her, while yelling at Carole that Carole defends the person sitting next to her, was hypocritically laughable.
Also, ENOUGH with the shaming Carole regarding her closeness to her friends circle. She’s in her fifties, has no children and a deceased husband. Of course her friends are her family. I say she should say, “Yeah, they’re the family I chose, wtf is it to you?”
Smacking Carole’s career was another typically aggressive Bethenny “I know it all” move. It’s that hypocritical side to her that makes it really hard for me to support her. I was her biggest support, but with her success has come a very aggressive side.
Forgot to include, I totes believe the Adam stuff tho, he probably is an opportunist. I bet before B made her millions, she would have been too tho.
Did anyone else catch the bit about B saying Adam had $? TT do you know what this is about? I thought Adam was a personal chef that worked for Luann, that cant of been lucrative?
Adam is a trust fund kid.
Ah – was wondering why B couldn’t get on board with the idea that some Adam couldn’t go that long with earning a check.
I disagree, I think Bethanny would have done anything for that amount of publicity and not required a paycheck.
Whether Bethenny wanted PR is not the issue. Bethenny helped and continues to help as long as it’s needed. She hasn’t gotten equivalent PR.
I believe that she has a heart for this work. I’m sorry that you disagree. At the end of the day, she has earned the attention.
What I meant was, if she was in Adam’s position she would have gone and not expected compensation- she would have been compensated through the publicity at that time.
I am a huge fan of Bethenny and I think what she did was incredible and self-less. She did what most people will never even dream of. My comment had NOTHING to do with the current Bethenny, it had to do with the Bethenny who was slinging baked goods at the farmers markets on the weekends- who herself admitted she was on the RHONY for the publicity. She would never have turned down an opportunity she was giving to Adam.
I have seen Adam shopping for groceries at Dean & deluca a few times. If you know Dean & Deluca you would know that is not a place someone who is in need of money would shop for groceries.
I’m impressed that you shop there! 🙂
Ha! No. Only Get a coffee occasionally. Sometimes a sweet.
Would never purchase my fruits and veggies there!
Your opinion is very popular with me because I agree with you 100%.
Puerto Rico brought real tears so touching I hate watching tv that makes me cry It was very informative that money hadn’t made it to the people not surprising 1 small reason people fear charity and giving cash. I admire Bethenny and her I am gonna take over the world and make it better with or without anyone’s help…
does anyone think it truly bothered Carol Bethenny didn’t ask her to go.
the rift between Bethenny and Carol not the average petty fighting like usual.
Not surprising that it is about Adam ,or that he is the tinder that is getting the fire started .
The mean girls ganging up on my girl Sonjia Pisses me off. Tinsley made-up with Sonjia why ? and Sonjia owes her an apology either way ..I seriously think Sonjia knows Tinsley is an IT girl or will be again and Sonjia was upset that Tinsley did her own thing and didn’t include Sonjia hanging out .
Does anyone really believe that Tinsley was actually living with Sonjia,I thought it seemed fake Tinsley would just show up to film with Sonjia.
I get the coke comment you feel on top of the world a bad ass . I just hope my girls do not do all the dumb crap I did.
a Murder party among these women oh Please. It Blows Up . In interviews Bethenny didn’t see their disagreements as that bad and her and Carole are still good and Carol says Bethenny doesn’t know what she is talking about.
Has this been a real fight or not is what I am wondering.was Bethenny put up to knocking Adam to upset Carol ?
Carol is so boring and Adam just seems dull also and the majority agrees that Adam is a user and LuAnne did interview she thinks he is a user
Bethenny seems to think Adam has money and shouldn’t have to work and it wouldn’t hurt him to work for free. I recall her being a personal chef and broke so why would she assume Adam is wealthy ?
Does he come from wealth ?
Carol ,Tinsley,Dorinda and Ramona are all being the mean girls and I love that Bethenny is trying to be supportive of Sonjia .
I would rather tune in to see Bethenny,Sonjia and LuAnne than any of these other women and I use to dislike LuAnne and her uppity ways.
Is Ramona trying to stay relevant she is a classic shit stirrer she has ever since being on RHNY has twisted conversations either to herself look good or to get someone upset to start a fight.
Too bad she is obviously so terrible about it she inserted herself into it and her Name was never brought up. Blahahahahahahaha she is Delusional in every sense of the word hope I said that correctly.
Love the recap TT Thanks for doing it so fast cause as I age mind slips and it is still very fresh to talk about
Amazing comment — I hesitate to read the long ones, but yours was awesome.
First of All!? They ALL should have gone to Puerto Rico! And now that I’ve thought about it? I’m pissed!
Lu might not have wound up in jail, Sonja and Ramona (may) have gotten a clue. Carole would go back to her original self and Tinsley (think that’s the first time I’ve typed her name….odd yet fitting name, hadn’t really thought about it before) would just get an education.
Kipper, I understand what you mean about them “all” going on the trip. We all have seen how many of their trips work out however, and I would have worried that it would have become more of “all about them” (and possibly one upmenship and shananigans) and the meaning and true intent of the trip would have been lost. Puerto Rico has enough on their plate, they don’t/didn’t need housewife drama piled on their already horrible situation. 😉
There is no possible way Ramona would go to a place like Puerto Rico. Who would unpack her bags? Would there even be rooms to fight over? Ramona is far to shallow to really care about what those people are going through. Bethenny said that Ramona gave $4,000, or was it $5000? Either way, it’s a very small sum for someone who has so much and I suspect that Ramona only gave the money because she knew it would look bad if she didn’t.
At the time Puerto Rico did not need a plane full of irrelevant women soaking up resources Puerto Ricans were in desperate need of.
Bethenny is the only one of these women that works an 8+ hour-a-day job and has a young child to take care of. She spent a lot time helping those in need in Houston, Miami, and Puerto Rico prior to filming. It must have been very difficult when production began to hang out with a group of women that spend their day shopping, getting spa treatments, and lunching.
The thing that Tinsley and Carole have in common is that they both are clinging on to their lives of 10-20 years ago when they had husbands who were their identities. They both are stuck in that time period and dress and act like they are still that age which makes them look rather ridiculous. When Carole refers to herself as a “young girl” in the 80s and 90s it hit me that both of them enjoy this whole “twee, I’m just a girl” thing. On Tinsley at least it makes sense, but Carole wants to flip-flop between strong woman, respected journalist, world traveler who also is incredibly naive and somehow doesn’t even explore her own city.
Chere T, you are still the most beautiful girl in the room, everyone loves you, and everything you do is perfect.
Bethenny has my complete admiration for her work in PR and elsewhere. Enough cannot be said about this.
In comparison, the other women’s activities seem so trite.
I loved when Beth said Tinsley and Carol were alike because they have no children and no careers. That was a clear shot right at Carol. And the juxtaposition of Carol meeting at the magazine to discuss writing a 500 word article that she said she needed at least 3 weeks to complete — hysterical.
Beth will not soon forget Carol introducing the author as (something like) the most influential or accomplished woman in NYC. The look on Beth’s face was priceless. Carol should quit this show because the longer she is on it, the more shallow she looks.
I don’t know if Adam has a trust fund as someone noted, but NYC is chock full of people like him who don’t have regular jobs and seem to dabble in this or that. His refusal to even give a few days time to Beth’s charitable efforts was very revealing.
To be fair, we don’t know what Adam’s net worth is. Maybe he truly could not afford to not work a paying job at that time. Maybe he had some big expenses that had to be taken care of. If anyone should understand this, it should be Bethenny because we saw her struggling in the same place. I don’t think it’s fair to make judgments without all the information.
Wait. Aren’t you the same poster that just judged Ramona’s donation? Without any information about her financial situation?
Yaaaassss.
Fun fact about Karen Duffy aka Carole’s good friend: She used to be a host on MTV. She also dated George Clooney around 1995-1996. So Carole and her very good friend dated the same guy kinda like Lu and Sonya.
And Ramona and Sonja and Aviva and Sonja. The common denominator here is pretty clear.
This episode was a yo-yo of emotions for me. While I’ve always preferred my hw’s Light and fluffy I appreciate the opportunity to see the real devastation in PR. I too would have had a difficult time distributing the money. Watching just that small segment was tough.
The Sonja bashing right in front of her is getting old. I was glad that Bethenny stuck up for her no matter what the reason. There’s no excuse for being rude.
Oh Dorinda. Your scenes are becoming increasingly difficult to watch and that makes me sad.
Adam went with Carole when a big group went to Dubai recently. Carole isn’t a dumb woman, she knows the score and is ok with it. She and Russell the musician were together for years in a more open relationship and it ended when he wanted it more serious.
I agree with Stephanie that Bethenny coming for Carole defending Tinsley was the very definition of hypocritical. Stay out of it while I fight Sonja’s battle.
I can’t forget Sonja and her bs with Tom. Flirting and carrying on about losing the relationship with him and later finding out they only banged like 3 times. That’s not a friend w benefits for 10 years, that’s a warm place to land for a night. Whike Dirinda was a bit high school running from one lunch table to the next, Sonja did say those things about Tinsley. Sonja can be a wolf in sheeps clothing but she always gets forgiven quickly.
Can’t stand Sonja. She’s desperate for a story line and still dragging out the Tinsley thing.
Cried through the Puerto Rico stuff.
I thought Carole was a professional writer? She has a problem writing 1 page in 3 weeks WTF? She comes off like an entitled idiot with no motivation.
That confused me too. She doesn’t understand deadlines? BTW I read Carole’s article. Guess what it was about, go ahead guess…RUNNING THE MARATHON!
Ouch. Yep, Carole’s blog is screaming for a Purple Pen. IMHO
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Thank you. I was thinking the same thing.
Carole is just awful! She’s just cruel and enjoying it yet that’s nothing new. Carole you’re on the HOUSEWIVES show not PBS. Tinsley, grow up.
While I completely admire the work Bethenny is doing in Puerto Rico, I’m not digging her on the show. She seems to have a mission to down Carole this season and it’s too obvious. Watching every season of housewives, it was always obvious Bethenny never gave an eff about Sonja and could care less that she was ostracized. She literally “fought” Sonjas battle in the most random ‘aha’ moment at the dinner. As if she JUST understood Sonja’s pain over a fake storyline last season and feeding Sonja’s delusions. The bitchy comments towards Carole were also sad. But damn, CAROLE have some thicker skin. Bethenny is kind of a verbal waterboarder and her telling Tinsley to stop yelling was hilarious as they both were too high of a damn decible.
When the women were away a few weeks ago, Bethenny met Carole and Tinsley in a restaurant, I think for breakfast. When Bethenny walked in Carole and Tinsley kept right on with their conversation and acted as though Bethenny wasn’t even there. I think that’s part of the reason she feels sorry for Sonja being ostracized and shoved into a corner by the other women. Sonja seems to fight a losing battle every time she tries to defend herself because all of the other women go on the attack. I guess that’s why I didn’t see it as hypocritical that Bethenny was speaking up for her. Bethenny is better at standing up to some of those women than Sonja will ever be.
Not a rental space for stores – it’s part of Vanessa Noel’s shoe shop….located above her store, hence the shoes and bags on the wall
Excuse my ignorance, but I just don’t understand how giving money cards to people in mountainous and remote areas is convenient. I mean, if they do have supply and grocery stores in their area, would the stores be stocked and are they equipped to accept this kind of currency? Or do these people with nothing have to travel to Dan Juan? I really am confused. What Bethany did was great, regardless.
Dawn.. I thought strange also about the cards… if no electricity or internet at the time.. would think the cards would be worthless to most of the recipients.. But agree .. at least Bethany brought other supplies also.
There aren’t any major stores in those mountainous regions. They are going to have to go down into the city to purchase building supplies and such. Remember the old man saying his wife was in the hospital in the city?
I just came back from Puerto Rico this past weekend. There are many towns without light or water. The government main concern was for the cities, especially the tourist areas to be up and running for the economy. The people in the deep mountain areas are still suffering. My niece was without light for 70 days.She had to travel for 4 hours to find a working ATM and to have access to WiFi to call the family by messenger. She didn’t have access to sanitary pads. Everything was hours aways in the city. And people were lined up for days.
I wonder if part of the problem between Bethenny and Carol isn’t that Bethenny has discovered firsthand what a mess Carol’s beloved Hillary made out of the Haitian so-called “recovery.” The Haitian people, instead of getting relief for the poor and rebuilding from the Clintons, got the Clinton Foundation feathering the next of their elite friends.
I wondered if they’d had words about Haiti and The Clinton Foundation also. It would be natural for Bethenny to hear the stories through the volunteers that have worked in Haiti and joined her on this project.
Hillary personally made a mess of the Haitian recovery? I suppose the Haitian government had nothing to do with the situation there? Wow, that’s quite a lot of power that you attribute to her. She must truly be the most nefarious, omnicient, and powerful person on Earth.
Please stop regurgitating right-wing misinformation and propaganda. It takes very little effort to see that independent charity evaluators such as CharityWatch and Charity Navigator, who actually do their homework, give The Clinton Foundation (the entity to which you refer, which is seperate and distinct from Hillary herself) their very highest ratings.
Also: you’re a fucking moron.
Like! You are smart and funny!
The Haitian government is definitely responsibe for the mess in Haiti BUT the boots on the ground in Haiti hear stories whether they are true or not. I’ve been told by people that have been to Haiti since the hurricane that many of the Haitian people do blame the Clintons and Hillary in particular because of her brother’s supposed appointment. I’m not saying the things they say are true. I’m saying that I wouldn’t be surprised if the volunteers have heard the complaints and relayed the info to Bethenny and then Bethenny relaying the info to Carole causing a rift.
GTFO
Watching the footage of the survivors in Puerto Rico was heartbreaking. It always makes me furious that, with all the money people donate when this type of disaster happens, so little of it actually goes where it’s really needed. Bethenny hit the nose on the head when she gave $300 gift cards directly to individuals – that way, at least they could decide what they needed most. I have great respect for Bethenny for jumping in like she did – she’s definitely someone who gets things done.
Carole and Tinsley talking about Sonja at the table, knowing full well that she could hear them, was the height of rudeness. I used to like Carole, but now I just look upon her as a delusional, uninspired woman. I’ve always had a soft spot for Sonja, despite her wackiness. I think she has a heart of gold and genuinely gets her feelings hurt. She’s harmless, unlike some of the vipers in the group.
Not falling for Bethenny’s nonsense this season. While her efforts in PR are to be commended, they do not make up for her rudeness (wrapped in “honesty” and “authenticity”) and obvious jealousy of Carol and Tinsely’s relationship. She attacks when she feels threatened and Carol said it best in her blog this week, B’s only friend is Reality TV. I think Carol is hurt because she thought they had a genuine friendship. And, by all accounts it seemed that they did. But, Carol has learned the hard way— the only person B is loyal to is B. There are several seasons in RHONY to prove this– B knows how to play the game of Reality TV and in the end, she only cares about winning–casualties be darned. Sorry, not falling for it—good deeds and PR, notwithstanding.
Pleeease purple pen Carole’s blog.
I’m at this wonderful age where I’m right between Tinsley and the Teen Moms. Tinsley is really an embarrassment. I am all about dressing how you feel including tights and bows on your ass and head, but why the fuck is she acting like a teenager when it comes to Scott? I can’t.
There’s a desperation about Tinsley, when her past adventures in reality Tv and as a socialite, that puts me off.