We start with Ryan having a hissy fit about Maci. Ryan’s mom says there is still a lot of stuff that goes on between Maci and Ryan that nobody knows about. Ryan is glassy-eye and dipping into a bottle. He’s high and hostile. He finally agrees to go out on stage with his parents but not Maci. Mackenzie is out there too. Ryan says it is not a good time for him to be around Maci. His dad says that Mack told him that Maci is a trigger for Ryan. Dr. Drew is concerned that Ryan is not really on a treatment plan and suggests suboxone. Ryan says he takes that when he is having a bad day but he doesn’t want to get addicted to that and have to go back to rehab. Wow. Mack is a real bitch to Dr. Drew. She’s just a horrible person. Plus she has to know he’s using. Ryan finally says he doesn’t want to get into it with Maci today so that this can be over and he can go home and see his son next weekend. Wait. Maci is letting him see Bentley at this point? Bad idea. That whole segment was a waste of time and energy and is going to cause me to miss something more important when the DVR shuts off five minutes early.
Next is Maci and Taylor and Ryan’s parents. Maci just found out that Ryan was being drug tested by the legal system and Dr. Drew wants to know if that would satisfy her drug screen requests. She says yes. Maci says the reason that Ryan didn’t want to be out there is because he doesn’t want to answer for himself. He has a lot of people who answer questions for him. That is exactly what we just saw.
Next up is Amber and Gary and their new boos. I guess it is the pregnancy because Amber starts bawling like a baby right off the bat. She’s very hurt that Gary makes it seem like she’s a bad mother. Gary does not do that. Amber has been really mean to Kristina online. Both of them apologize to the other. Looks like a clean start. I thought we were going to see Andrew badmouthing Gary, but it looks like we are done with them.
So we move on to Tyler and Catelynn. Dr. Drew talks to Tyler about all the pressure he was under this season. Dr. Drew asks if he still smokes pot. He does but not around Amber. Tyler said Amber’s depression made him feel helpless.
Catelynn and Tyler are both crying about her suicidal feelings. Wow this show is depressing. Tyler has been diagnosed with bipolar depression.
Butch is still in rehab and phones in a call. He has just made the 12th step. He’s been clean since November… so about six months from when this was filmed. Butch seems good.
It’s time for the Interview with Deborah. As it turns out Farrah did go to her mother’s wedding. That’s a shocker! Deborah looks very happy. Wow! Farrah showed up in all black but she did not bring Sophia. That’s just petty. She does not speak with her mother at all now. Deborah is really worried about Farrah and the professional choices she is making. Drew and Deborah refer to her psychological problems getting the best of her.
Farrah looks thinner. She says that she was happy to go to her mother’s wedding. Sophia didn’t feel comfortable going. Dr. Drew talked about reports that she called her mother evil. She said that was a reaction to something her mother said about her and she doesn’t want to talk about it. Apparently, Deborah called her a narcissist who is incapable of loving others. Farrah mentions that she took a lie detector test to prove that she loves her mother. This sounds like something they did on Marriage Bootcamp. She refuses to discuss about whether or not she is in therapy. He tries to move on to dating. Nope she is not talking about that either. He did get a bit of a response about her issues with production. Basically she said their job was to edit her as a disgusting person. I should point out that Farrah had maintained a huge smile and some really crazy eyes for this entire interview. She is eerily poised and yet almost robotic. It’s like there is no one in there anymore. The lights are on but no one is home. It’s creepy and sad. I feel sorry for her. Dr. Drew asks if Sophia knows about her new line of work. She says, “Sophia knows I runs stores, I’m an entrepreneur, I’m a business mom, she knows about my social efforts in adult entertainment, she knows about all that. So does she know what her mother does? Yeah, there’s nothing to hide Dr. Drew, And if you wish to insinuate any other kind of negativity, Please just respect that.”
With regard to her departure from the show she said, “”I’m happy that I didn’t let anyone break me from my core, which I felt this production was doing and many other people around me. Not to say anything negative, those are just my feelings. I’m happy that I expressed that on social media and everywhere where I work, and hopefully I get a better environment because of me choosing to live a different life.”
Dr. Drew says he has enjoyed watching her grow up and thrive as an entrepreneur and mom. He was worried about all of them in their first seasons.
Farrah says that life is crazy. You can’t regret anything. She has adopted an “it is what it is”philosophy about her time on the show.
Farrah has to be coached for this and the video interview that went up this week. She cannot string a sentence together without butchering any verb that’s in her way. It has been called word salad, I call it “dumb as a bag of biermanns”. (Love that). She shows no emotion, dressed so modestly that I think they have grabbed a look alike from an upscale college and hung a red hag wig on her. The good little girl act is odd after her history. Her LA puctures indicate that the crowd she runs with are the same people, you know the ines who got her into pirn and drugs.
I am sad for Tyler. If he is getting help, it doesn’t show. Smoking is not a good idea for him either. It seems he is flying solo. I do hope that following all f the treatment that Cait has, she is well, working to stay that way and will pick up slack.
I can’t with Amber. She managed to make Brandi look like the most stable sane woman I have seen. Amber is the kind of crazy that has you so on guard, you cant see anything else. Brandi has said she’s an addict, as in active not recovering. Who else can out drink Brandi. Amber should cry. Gary didn’t make her look bad, she just looked bad. She wants Leah to know that she is there for her. Well be there for her. Pick her up according to schedule. I could she the new baby leaving her so depressed or tired that she may miss a few weeks or months.
It is time for this show to die. I don’t want to see Ryan on drugs while Maci is naked and afraud. I don’t want to see the breakdown of TYler or Cait. I want these children who never grew up go away quietly to live the normal life on normal budgets while raising normal children.
Well said.
I agree…well said. I LOVE the “dumb as a bag of Biermanns” analogy!
Why is the diagnosis bi-polar all the time with people today? Now Tyler. He had a stable mom who provided a home and tired of the Butch saga. Caitlyn, get off the weed and raise your kid and take care of your husband. Running to AZ will not help you face the mundane things you have to do in life. Hell you have the kid in day care and can afford to hire housekeeping. Sympathy over with her.
Farrah looked like she was on the verge of tears. I think she sees that her parents have moved on and she is scared to death without the MTV paycheck. Don’t agree with her choices but she does hussle and doesn’t sit on coach like Caitlyn and Amber.
I applaud Maci on how she has her priorities straight. Ryan has issues with her because she’s the first person ever to say no to him. I doubt Ryan sees Bentley alone. Visitation at parents house. Wouldn’t want my boy near that lake with those two idiots. Mack is vile and glad Dr. Drew got snippy with her. Black widow.
Funny how Amber can control her behavior without her meds. Boy she’s in for a big shock when she has to actually take care of that poor baby because Andrew wants to screenwrite.
Amber chooses wisely (sarcasm) she knew Gary would step up ..Matt as much as I despise him…he stepped up to take care of Leah and Andrew will do the same .
No offense but that first sentence really got to me-it was written in such a dismissive way. You might want to take a quick trip to google to educate yourself Bi-polar disorder; many scientists believe bi-polar results from a chemical imbalance in the brain (I won’t go into the details-you can look it up) Secondly, there is a VERY strong genetic component to the illness. Thirdly, he had a very difficult childhood!! “He had a stable mom who provided a home” you wrote. I’m not sure where you got that info. I think you just assumed it because he’s close to his mom-now. I’ve read excerpts from his book and he had a very troubled background, men in and out of the house and he was doing serious drugs by a very young age. He tried to commit suicide by hanging when he was a kid. His dad, who as the same sex parent has the larger influence, is a drug addict who was in and out of his life since he was a baby. We talk about Amber and Caitlyn abandoning their kids and the affect it will have them but because Tyler is a guy nobody thinks of what that felt like for him growing up, how that fucked with his head. Now he has all the stress with Caitlyn. It would be the odd person who didn’t succumb to some sort of mental illness or personality disorder after all he’s been through.
Also-just wanted to add, I don’t think that Amber is controlling her behavior without her meds. I think she’s been a hot mess. She was drinking when she met this guy and I don’t think she’s doing well now. I’m in recovery I know I a white knuckler when I see one. Most of the time they con themselves but not other alcoholics/addicts.
Farrah said Sophia knows about “my social efforts in adult entertainment”! What in the hell does that mean? A child Sophia’s age shouldn’t even know much about what men and women do together, let alone “adult entertainment”. Again, what does that mean? It’s not like Farrah is trying to do anything to better the lives of adult entertainers. Does she mean making sure she has better camera angles when she points her butt in the air? Making sure her vaginal rejuvenation get enough screen time? Sit in on lessons together while Farrah learns how to act turned on? I’m baffled.
Catelynn and Tyler are so broken, it’s sad. I really can’t imagine what the future holds for them if they can’t get the proper treatment and therapy. Poor little Nova.
Amber’s baby is due in about three weeks and I hope she does well with it. I just can’t imagine her doing what most mothers of newborns do naturally – being up all night, being sleep-deprived, trying to figure out why the baby is crying – she’s so self-absorbed and Andrew will be working on projects, so I can’t see him having a lot of time to help. It’s going to be interesting.
Ryan is such a trainwreck, and Mack is such an enabler. I couldn’t believe how rude she was to Dr. Drew. He needs to respond in a much tougher way. I’d love to see her knocked down as peg or two. She’s not helping Ryan at all, not that I think anyone could at this point. Maci needs to keep Bentley far away from Ryan, unless there’s supervision in the same room.
I kind of agree that this show has run its course. It’s time for all these people to be taken off the MTV payroll and learn how to function in real life – the constant scrutiny can’t be good for them, and the money won’t last forever. Taking what are basically very young, unmarried mothers and turning them (and their various partners) into quasi-celebrities hasn’t been good for them. They need to learn to be independent, if it’s not too late, and move on.
Mack must have felt like a fool when Ryan was arrested like 4 days after this filmed AND his second try at hooking up with girls on TINDR was also exposed that same week. She makes a fool out of herself defending him on TV and he shits all over her. Oh well. Dr. Phil says when you marry for money you earn every penny. So sh e deserves it. (Sorry I had to throw a Dr. Phil quote in there!)
I recently saw a video of Farrah where Farrah was filmed while receiving injections to inflate her bum. (I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere) Sophia was also in the room taking a, “video” of the process on her phone. This in lieu of school. Because you see, Sophia is not like other kids! She’s a “talented entrepreneur, designer and model!” She can’t go to school like, “ordinary children” where she will be, “teased by the other students because of all of her talents.” Of course, this hasn’t happened yet but it could!! So Farrah had to act preemptively and yank her out of that school! This was the same school that asked Farrah not to apply a full face of make-up to a five year old for kindergarten. I remember the resulting hissy fit from Farrah and Deb. They’re taking away Sophia’s artistic freedom!! Who they hell are they??!!
What a world.
May Farrah go away and never bless us again with her presence. I wish only the best for her child but for her, fuck off.
I will say this, though for some I’m sure it will sound cold. Catelynn is shirking her responsibilities. Raising a child is difficult. It’s a 24/7 job. Running off to rehab multiple times leaving her husband to care for their child alone isn’t heroic or healthy, though she’s trying really hard to make us believe it is.
She’s found a way to disguise her lazy non-parenting. Some people buy it. I don’t. I’m an addict. I relapsed when my kids were little. I got the help I needed while continuing to parent. There are so many outpatient programs with different levels of participation that allow us to get treatment without leaving our families. But that takes real work. That’s too difficult for Catelynn because parenting at all, without the mental health issues, is too difficult for her.
If she continues to not parent her child and expect Tyler to do 100% of the work, including their business ventures, he will resent her to his very core. She’s always been lazy. When they announced her pregnancy with Nova, I though oh no. She’s far too lazy to parent a toddler. I’m pulling for Tyler, though. He’s really stepping up for his daughter.
I 100% agree with you about caitlin. I really used to pull for her and tyler being together. Now it looks like they have a very unhealthy codependent relationship. They simply outgrew eachother. They arent the same people they were 10 years ago. Because they grew up. My opinion of caitlin completely changed this season. I believe she is lazy and flies out to arizona whenever the going gets tough. And leaves her daughter for months at a time. Im sorry i dont buy it either. I have severe anxiety and ptsd from an abusive mother. Regular people dont get to just decide life is hard im gonna leave my kid not say goodbye and tell my husband nova is 3 and she will manage. Caitlim lost all my respect this season. I think tyler wants to leave and she has threatened suicide. Not cool
I agree completely! I think maybe Caitlynn realized a long time ago she isn’t cut out for motherhood and hides behind mental illness so she can blame that for her dislike of parenting. I do think she has mental health struggles but she seemed very happy when they visited her in rehab and whenever she’s on vacation. It’s like as soon as she’s home she gets depressed again.
I agree. I believe she has mental health issues, too. I believe she should seek treatment for those issues, but I don’t think she should leave her family multiple times for months at a time to do so. She had options, but she took the easiest one.
I think some of her depression is from having a toddler to take care of and being so inherently lazy that she dreads it like the plaque. I hope they do not have another baby. That would push her over the edge.
Did any one else notice what looked like the remains of a black eye on Tyler? His right eye had a yellow circle around it.
Plague. Lol. Not plaque. Stupid phone.
Cait outed Tyler for being diagnosed as bi-polar. Dr. Drew asked Tyler a question and Cait blurted it out. Tyler said afterwards he wasn’t ready to share his diagnosis, but since Cait said it, he was now talking about it. Their relationship is so toxic. I adore Nova. She’s a beautiful, smart, loving little girl, which I attribute to Tyler.
I’m not qualified to diagnose anyone, but I was surprised by Tyler’s diagnosis. I was more surprise that Dr. Drew seemed to guess it. I know and have dated someone with bipolar before. It’s called bipolar because they have extreme highs and lows. Unlike people like me who are always at different levels of low.
I don’t see any mania in Tyler. I see plain old run of the mill depression that he fights off all the time to be the for Nova and Cateluynn, and Butch and his sister and the business and and and….
TT, I thought that too! It feels like Cait just relies too much on a diagnosis for herself and anyone around her.
I think people mix up bipolar and borderline a lot. Bipolar is long periods of ups and long periods of lows, not one minute or day to the next. Tyler doesn’t fit either fron what we get to see. I just feel so bad for him, I wish someone would step in. Too bad Dr. Drew is useless
Oddly, Amber claims to be bipolar AND borderline. That’s a whole lot of crazy and she should be seeing a therapist regularly.
I believe her. She said she shouldn’t have more children. I agree. Is it dangerous to be off her meds and be a mother? Yep. She snaps like a rubberband. I bet the edit is in her favor this season
Amber is clearly bipolar and her behavior on MB is evident she is off her rocker angry and now she’s super calm . I think when she was ranting about Gary and his wife she was in a manic episode. Weirdly even though she had a glazed look about her …Farah looked good she did not have a ton of make up on but I could not when she said thank you guys making me look and act crazy ….Oh my God.. There is I’m minute amount of people of that lacks the self awareness that way you that Farah does. I hope Kate doesn’t get pregnant for a long time and really take some time to think about whether L not this is the best choice for her …I know Tyler wants more babies but I think it’s seriously puts her mental health in jeopardy and him too. I think they’re both filling or trying to fill the Carly void.. And Kate as shown a very very selfish side to her this season. Mack wad/is super rude I could not believe she said “excuse me” to Dr.drew as though she was the princess
I grew up with an Aunt who was truly bipolar. She had highs and lows in epic porportions. My dad & mom, my aunts and uncles have dealt with it all their lives, and now that the siblings of my aunt have all passed away, now my eldest brother handles her, finances and all. I give him huge props for taking on this difficult issue. When she is on her meds, she is ok, but she goes off her meds from time to time and my brother gets the crazy calls from my aunt that nobody should ever get. He has dealt with her being arrested, harrassing ppl in her manic state, accusing my brother of mismanaging her financial funds…its a nightmare. If my aunt didn’t have my brother looking after her, she would have been broke and homeless 2 decades ago. It is a horrible illness and by the grace of god she has a family member looking after her. Hopefully, these ppl on this show have family who will be there for them long beyond this show…..
I also felt sorry for Farrah, she is truly a mess. I also am sick of her crap on the other hand. The way it is going to permanently damage Sophia is hardest thing to see.
I think a great deal of what is wrong with some of them is that they just sit around and collect their checks from the show but do nothing productive as work. I would go crazy if I just sat around all day. They have little to occupy their minds and lives which lends itself to internalizing everything. This show will not last forever yet many do nothing to enrich their lives. They seem to just be existing, not really living.
Why does nobodytalk about the fact that tyler had a black eye that he tried to cover up with makeup- I bet he fought with billy his sisters boyfriend!