This episode starts with the carpetbagger’s butler showing up to help Cameran get ready for the baby to come. His first task will be to organize the baby stuff in the kitchen. Or not. Priority one was to ask him to give her a foot massage.
Ugh. JD and Thomas meet up for drinks. Thomas imparts his wisdom about coparenting on JD. I’m not kidding. It was a ridiculous scene.
Oh! K. Cooper Ray flashback! Kathryn calls Cameran to see how she is doing. She talks about Petty Patti. She also says she has invited Thomas’ hospice nurse to lunch.
But first we get Shep and one of his dating show rejects, Peyton meeting for drink. She has moved to Charleston. Apparently she’s going to be on the show. It looks like she was cast as Austen’s girlfriend. Shep looks like dog shit. Seriously. Remember when he was attractive? That was a rapid slide.
Kathryn and Ashley meet for lunch at 82 Queen, one of the oldest Charleston restaurants, and one of my favorites. Though the last time I went, I was sort of over it. It’s expensive and there is better food to be had. Still, it’s too good of a place for Ashley. The first thing Ashley says after the greeting is, “Are you going to have a cocktail?” Really? Kathryn says that Thomas never told her that he had a serious girlfriend and she doesn’t know anything, like when she met her kids. She found out that Thomas introduced her to the kids after knowing her for a week. She also said that her parents don’t think she is making a good decision. She will eventually learn to listen to her mother. Oh and it was Mother’s Day when she met them. Ouch. Kathryn points out that their parenting agreement doesn’t all them to have people they are dating around the kids until they have been together for a specified time. I think it is six months. That information is all here.
Cameran is becoming less fearful about being a mother. She says she is finally feeling calm. She is starting to understand that she is getting more than she is giving up.
Chelsea goes surf fishing with her dad. They have beer and tequila while waiting for a bite. They talk about her and Austen trying to remain friends. Chelsea is worried that she is never going to feel like settling down. He says not everyone is the marrying type. Not all women want to be mothers. Chelsea feels like he would be disappointed if she didn’t. He says probably not as much as she thinks. He has three kids as long as one of them has a baby, he’s good.
I still can’t believe Thomas is living in this house on Daniel Island. It’s must not something I would think he would ever do. If you have money in Charleston you live in Charles in an old house like the one he sold, not in some new development for young families built on marshland. I lived on the marsh in Savannah and there are a lot of bugs. I ate a pound of gnats every three months living down there. Anyway, we are led to believe that Ashley who doesn’t know a soul in Charleston is going to a bachelorette party. They are all going to take mug shot photos and she holds up hers and it says, Trophy Shot, crime “Blue Balling.” Then she changes her mind and goes with the Gold Digger sign. She also takes a pot shot at Thomas and his mughot from ten years ago. Did you know Ashley was 32? She’s getting long in the tooth for this. Ashley says that she is worried about Thomas having women throwing themselves at him all the time.
Kathryn, the blond girlfriend, Danni, with the broken engagement, Naomie and Chelsea have some girls time in a beautiful suite at The Restoration on King Street. Naomi says she met with Liz since the bridal shower to talk to her about showing up with JD. Naomie says that Liz said that it doesn’t have to make sense to anyone but her. That’s good because it doesn’t make sense to anyone but her. Later the go up to the rooftop restaurant. I’ve never been there and the view looks amazing. Danni says that despite the split, they have hooked up three times since they broke up. Naomie hasn’t had sex in six months. Naomie is so mean-spirited when she talks about Craig. She also has him on tracker and stalks his social media.
Across town, the boys all have a boys night out at a bar. Craig, Shep, Austen, Thomas and Whitney are in attendance. They guys want to get Craig back out into the dating scene. Whitney is drinking water. That’s new. Thomas tries to give Craig dating advice. Craig is not ready to move on from Naomie yet. He needs to get ready. Shep confronts Austen about his date with Peyton. He says they did not hook up. Shep doesn’t believe him and neither do I.
The next day Craig goes to see Chelsea for a desperately needed haircut. He has looked like a homeless person this entire episode. I hope he gets a shave as well. But he doesn’t.
Craig and Naomie meet up Tavern and Table. I’ve never heard of this place but it looks like it is on Shem Creek. I don’t think any of my Shem Creek watering holes have survived. It’s probably a new place that replaced one of the old places. Craig starts off by saying if she wants to get back together, he would love that. She says she doesn’t know if she does or not because she is not sure that the changes that we both want to happen can happen. In other words she wants him to live his life the way she wants him to. She’s controlling and mean. Craig says he is getting a life coach to help him be more productive and keep better hours. She says that sounds great but she can’t consider getting back together until she sees some actual changes. Craig says, “Fine, then we are not getting back together.” Naomie says that he is all talk and no action. She says that he always blames other people and is not accountable for anything. He says she constantly points out his faults and talks down to him. So true. Craig says he doesn’t want to be with her anymore unless she can work on her negativity problems and stop constantly criticizing him. Naomie storms off because she refuses to take responsibility for her role in the demise of their relationship.
Next week, Austen tells his parents he thinks he wants to make his own beer and market it. He has no experience at all making beer. Craig is interested in Peyton. Oh for fuck sake, how many guys is this chick going to have to blow to be on this show? Even Ashley only has to blow one. Naomie is full-blown Crazy Ex Girlfriend. She doesn’t want Craig but she doesn’t want anyone else to have him either. It’s Halloween and Thomas tells Kathryn that Ashley said they should invite her to go Trick or Treating with her own kids. Naomie confronts Peyton at the Halloween party.
Shep makes me physically uncomfortable. He reminds me of my brother before he died of an OD. Never clean shaven, unable to commit to anything and thinking he is superior to everyone because he quotes books written by other people well.
I avoided his restaurants when I was in town last month.
I give Katherine credit, I probably would have thrown my drink in Landon 2.0’s face when she said she met her kids on Mother’s Day.
Naomi has anger issues.
I was watching reruns of season 1 and Shep has not aged well. He really looks sickly and unkempt. He had a health scare when he went to the Dr with Thomas. I guess it fell on deaf ears or he’s in so deep he can’t help himself. I hope he has a comeback . I’m routing for him.
Landon 2.0 ?!!! ???Good one!
Was this a boring episode or was I just not paying attention?
It was kind of boring. But I love Charleston so I’m just happy to see so much of it. I could do without Naomie.
Perhaps she thinks witchiness is her new storyline since she doesn’t have one after the breakup. Color her tiresome.
It’s storybook storyline arc. They have to spread out the juice or else it would be a six episode season.
Ah, sitting at 82 Queen with Kathryn shooting that scene. Oh, what a set up that was. She had already given birth but had to pretend to still be pregnant because production figured out ole PATina was frosting me out of scenes (and paychecks). I cooperated with all their shenanigans because I was trying to be a dutiful employee. I was even willing to help Kathryn who had also frosted me out of scenes when she didn’t need me anymore. And since she was supposed to still be pregnant (she wore a fake baby bump) she wasn’t supposed to be drinking. Honey, she was lit as a firecracker and sucking Maker’s through a straw pretending it was Coca Cola. And THAT’S all I have to say about that.
#noALLEGEDELYneeded
Huh? Who is pregnant ?
Oh, now I see.
You are not relevant – go somewhere else and make your plaid hankies and cry.
Haha. You’re too kind, LJ73XYZ! Who are you, again? Oh, NOBODY.
I love you Cooper Ray!
Kisses back at you, boo.
Back at you, boo
Cooper Ray I love your realness. You were one of the best parts of show. Can’t stand Patricia so fake
For the record, I think that it is the height of stupidity for a fan of a reality TV show to comment that a cast member is irrelevant. And I was a fan long before I was a cast member. You should close your mouth open ears and learn something. Or not, and just stay stupid.
^^^^^^LOL
Ha! Nicely put, K. Cooper Ray! Trolls will be trolls. Take it from where it comes.
Please don’t let anyone discourage you. I love the behind the scenes commentary! xo
I loved you on Southern Charm (and your snapchat commentaries). It’s their loss. Don’t listen or respond to idiots that Tamara hasn’t had time to send to the WLS.
I love you K. Cooper Ray!
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I loved when you were a cast member and love your posts. Please keep posting.
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Cooper I love and miss you. xxx
Who the fuck are you and where did you come from LJ73XYZ! ? You might want to scurry back to whatever hole you climbed out of. K. Cooper Ray was the best part of Southern Charm when he was on. He’s actually Southern and well-mannered unlike most of the males on this show whose talents seem to lying solely in the areas of drinking and misogyny.
Be gone.
Now that’s a read.
#bringbackkcooperray2019
Aw, I miss K. Cooper Ray on the show!
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No LJ73, going away is your assignment since you have no appreciation for the finer folks participating.
MigRaine I100% agree! LJ73? Just no. Just go.
Geezus, hate spell check. Look what it turned Miz Grandma in to!
Please, oh please tell us Michael is really a fake butler and only works for her during the shooting times. Cannot stand Pat the carpet bagger! Miss seeing your face on this show!
Oh, he’s a real butler. And a terrible person. They deserve each other.
That actually surprises me. What makes him awful and what happened to the other butler she hired?
I’ll discuss that on my vlogcast. Too much to go into as he really isn’t worth my time. He did try to run over me one time on the street. I can’t remember if I met the other candidate for Butler. I am not sure what he was brought in for.
I missed it ?
Cooper! Miss seeing you on the show!! You should go on Heather McDonald’s Podcast called Juicy Scoop and give us more stories!
He has a vlog that started this week. It’s off to a huge success! There are several links here for how to subscribe to the private Facebook page. He already has thousands of customers!
I’m loving all the tea that Coop is spilling today.
Me too! What a nice surprise!
Thank y’all. I’m working hard for your pleasure.
Cooper, although I’m #teamkathryn, you were a really good friend to her and it’s sad that she hasn’t reached out to you to make amends. I also wish you were on this season…That would made it complete!!!
That’s why I’m feeling free to talk. She’s a terrible person. And I know more secrets than her mother does.
But don’t you suppose it was the result of Kathryn’s substance and alcohol abuse?
Gosh, everyone seems to be a terrible person. This all sounds very dramatic!! Have you spent much time with Kathryn recently – or was all this when she was out of control and before she went to rehab?
You’ll have to subscribe to my vlogcast to get more darling pie.
How do I subscribe ?
Thank you for this comment!! I get so much flack. Some want to nominate Kathryn for sainthood – I understand they don’t know any better but…it’s still annoying. I get tired of hearing how she was “young, this, that and the other.” Let’s just hope she finally gets and keeps herself together.
I know a good bit about what Coop went through with Kathryn and it was not pleasant. I am liking what I’m seeing from her this season though. I am hoping Kathryn has some redemption now.
Me too! I’ve been pleasantly surprsed. Hopefully she has grown as a person and will remain on track. She has the world at her feet. I hope and pray she keeps up the good work.
Yes, fortunately most of us do not have the past held against us forever.
Hope and pray
K. Cooper Ray I’ve missed you so much!
Forget them Cooper. You tangled with the biggest manipulators and have learned a valuable lesson. Even this year as we are presented with St. Kathryn, I don’t believe it. I know it’s set up to make others look bad this year. You are well out of it.
War Eagle Cooper , you are better than that
Thank U. But to be clear I was never manipulated. I was clear eyed, clearheaded and honest. I did not succumb to what either of those witches wanted or the producers, for that matter. I stayed true to who I am and I am happy and no regret. The whole mess is really amoral.
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I saw you biking by the Easter hat parade on Broad Street last year (2017) in some kind of fabulous colorful outfit.
So, please spill the tea: are they ALL Trumpanzees?
Just wanted to say I miss you on the show
WOW!! That’s crazy! I miss you on the show. In other news, I now have a deep desire to hang out and drink whiskey with you. Maybe I’ve always wanted that and am just now recognizing it;) Sorry you were treated so poorly.
Thanks, K Cooper!
Love to hear your comments and miss you on the show !!!
Yass hi Cooper?????
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Oh, my goodness, what delicious tea! K Cooper Ray, I am a fan! You were great on the show–authentic! Best to you in all of your endeavors.
Oooh spill the TEA K. Copper Ray! We need you back on this show stat! You were the foil to everyone’s billshit but never in a mean spirited way like that angry Naomie! Love you!!
Coop, hon, I totally believe you. Unlike Kathryn. Ms Pat was educated. Loved you and MMS Pat together. You are a wonderfully talented designer. Other oops will come. Didn’t like u w KD. She’s s user. I could see her fake ness they and they and still do. She s still plays the Martyr Game. If Ms Pat comes around it ll be for ratings. Not her true feelings
Well this lit up my face with a ?
K. Cooper Ray I so miss you on this show! Not the same without you ❤️
Hey Cooper….. I take it you and Catherine are no longer solid? That’s unfortunate I’d love seeing you guys together and I loved it you stood up to Petty Patti!
Can you imagine what Craig is going to think when he sees that Naomi was tracking him?
Especially when he sees what she saw where he was. And it wasn’t sewing.?
Now, now….let’s not get to the real reason Naomie and Craig were fighting. And that wasn’t sewing either.
Spill the T !!!
1st time poster here. Love your recaps TT!! I love Craig and can’t stand Naomie this season. The only man that will ever live up to her standards will end up having a side chick. Craig would have been her ride-or-die. But THIS comment…why were they really fighting!? Is there any truth to the little jokes about Craig being gay? Did he cheat on her? I neeeeed to know.
On the After Show Naomi said that someone must have told him because she tried to track him a couple of months ago and he had turned it off. Dani said she didn’t tell him.
Kathryn & him are pretty close. I could see her thinking it’s pretty fucked up.
That is because it IS pretty fucked up.
Yes it is. It is very stalker. This feature should be used by the mother of teenagers not Naomi that cant realize at the age of 25 she didn’t meet a guy she wants to spend the rest of her life with. Shocker. It should be illegal to take someone’s phone change the settings for the use to stalk them then fully admit it on TV. Not that I want Naomi in jail tbh.
There’s a Southern Charm after show?? Where do you see it? How did I not know about it??
At Bravotv.com Click on shows then Southern Charm then See All Videos.
Did you hear all of the male Southern Charm viewers changing their Apple ID password last night?
NOMEE is batshit cray-cray!
My favorite part of tonight’s show was Craig telling Trav he was old and creepy.
If I was a good girlfriend I don’t think that I would be swilling drinks quite so much with another friend that was newly sober. Even if they agreed before hand that one of them was going to refrain that would make me feel better.
I didn’t like Peyton on RelashionShep. Everyone says she’s nice but I didn’t like her.
I felt the same way. I think it’s inconsiderate for people to drink, especially to excess in front of someone in recovery. On WWHL, Cameran said Kathryn really has made positive changes in her life. It sounds like Petty Patty might be giving her another chance.
It’s something I think a friend should ask of another friend if one is in recovery, if their drinking would bother them. Every situation is different but it’s always appreciated when a friend cares enough to be considerate and ask. I am in recovery and truly couldn’t care less if my friends drink, we go to a bar to celebrate an occasion , they get a bottle of wine, etc. but my primary issue was not alcohol and they have always asked me if I am comfortable first. I abstain from all substances, but being around alcohol or people drinking does not upset me. However, I am several years in, for someone with new sobriety the story might be very different.
My son is in recovery 6 year sober and he as always said from the start …it’s not our issue whether or not hes comfortable …if he is uncomfortable it is his responsibility to leave.. My husband I had a few arguments because I thought we should abstain always around him ..but he pointed out that he knew that when we are out to dinner we’d like a beer or glass of wine and it made him feel uncomfortable that we couldn’t be ourselves. Of course I’m much a better at drinking and from of him now but before it was deathly in issue.
Looloo, this is 100% true, it is our responsibility and ours alone to maintain our sobriety, but I’m sure your son appreciated your consideration and thoughtfulness to ask and care. He’s right though, we don’t like to make others uncomfortable or make them feel like they can’t enjoy themselves. It’s a balance and everyone has to make the choices they need to for their own safety. I have no issues with it, others are not as comfy, it’s just important to have open communication with the people close to you. I’ve never had a problem so long as I’m honest with them and myself.
congrats to your son! we have the same amount of time 🙂
They may have, or she may understand that for the show, production may want some of them a little more lubricated.
I have a question though – if I’m the designated driver or have decided to have a sober evening, I always order something that still feels festive, even if it is a club soda with a twist of lime. (I hate iced tea, but there is also that). Kathryn was acting like she could ONLY have water.
Or does ordering a mocktail that early in sobriety just make it worse?
You make a great point about having a sober driver. A look on Kathryn’s face that night made me feel so bad for her. Bottles of wine ordered and she had to watch her friends knocking back the hooch
Yes, calling TRav out on his creepy old man perve-y remarks and behavior made me love Craig. I actually enjoy Craig AND Naomie more than anyone else. They seem real and not acting for the cameras, and I like watching Naomie find her voice.
Yes, I think Craig was so out of his comfort zone that night he could not be bothered to keep up the pretense that Thomas is the same generation as Craig – or even Shep, etc.
My favourite part was Thomas( in an aside after Ashley said she does not like girls pursuing him) saying he had asked her to come over to Charleston but he needed some space. Who else thinks he is starting to feel hemmed in and on a short leash.
Who wouldn’t? If someone I was sleeping with started singing in a chucky voice “you love me. You want to marry me and have babies with me.” I’d be freaked out. He just giggled with his balls hanging out of his way too tiny robe. He’s a pig but she’s awful.
I have to say that I love Cameran and Chelsea. They are so much more relatable and “real” than the rest of them. I loved Naomie but this season has not been a good look for her. I totally understand her frustration with Craig. He seems likeable but would annoy the shit out of me. I cannot watch another season of them yelling at each other. They are definitely better off apart!
And, GO AWAY PAYTON!!!! Seriously. She is gonna be a main plot point this season? I cannot stand her.
Don’t hate me but I still like Shep. He doesn’t need to cut his hair and get a job. The fact that he is still friends with the women he has dated says something for him doesn’t it? So he is Peter Pan, I don’t care. Remember when Shep was pleading with LAndon and said, how easy is it to do the right thing. That probably cemented my attitude about him.
Are we going to have to watch Naomie getting bitchy about Craig and everyone associated with him. Next weeks previews show her coming completely unhinged. She will boil a bunny this season, I see it coming.
Shep is an amiable retriever. He’s lost his compass a couple of times in his dealings with me personally, but overall he’s a good guy. And remember – it’s always easy to do the right thing and take the highroad when you have a trust fund.
To be able to sit down for a chat with you, K. Cooper Ray…I would give my eye teeth. You are fabulous and love to see you here.
For a mere $5 AND FIFTY CENTS. You can have seven minutes with him on Facebook tomorrow (today) at the butt crack of 10:30 am. See previous recap comments for details. I mean I may still be awake by then at this point.
I would need more than seven minutes!
I am right there with you Tamara! My sleep schedule is all backwards, I will just be considering sleep at 10:30am. Which would still be too early if I slept at night at night!!
TT is the only place I comment because she has real Charleston connection. And will read a bitch quick! We have a lot in common.
I’m glad that you do, miss you on the show! Your bluntness is refreshing lol
Love that you’re here. I appreciate T’s perspective based on real experience as well. Do you have any thoughts on Naomie this year? She seems to be, um, more open to exposing her true thoughts this year.
Indeed I do! I discussed it briefly on today’s vlogcast. Be sure and subscribe to my private Facebook group Cordially Cooper to get some real clap backs! https://www.facebook.com/kcooperray/
Tx. Will do. Loved you so much on the show.
Hi doll! Curious to know, are you still living in Charleston? And are you friendly with ANY of the cast or friends of? Such as Snowden? Cameran? Shep?
I’m not sure if he will see this, but of course he still lives in Charleston.
What’s with the faux MAGA hats he’s shilling, though?
No matter where I go, there it is.
I forgot Ashley, how is that possible?
Gold Digger, Trophy Wife, Baby Mama? She is not one for subliminal messages is she. She doesn’t have much fashion sense but TT hates it when I go there. It’s just that she claims to be a Fashionista. The word calls other people to mind, like Cameran who wore a stunning dress n WWHL tonight.
She is just unlikeable
Ashley is laying it on thick, with those mug shot things and also last week when she was sort of singing she liked him, was gonna marry him and all when they were kicking back in bed. She is playing her part perfectly and you can almost see Thomas getting uncomfortable. And to think he is a chick magnet is a crack up. I’m sorry, he is not chick magnet. Maybe an 80 year old cougar magnet.
Damn. Craig looked hot in his sit down meeting with Naomi. Cameran even said on WWHL that Craig gets better looking each season. So far so good!
Craig is by far the best looking guy on the show.
I was taken aback by how good looking he was in the bar scene, especially when he smiles. Very handsome guy! Naomi is a fool.
I think he also has the best soul.
He is/was kind to Kathryn, yet maintains friendship with Thomas. Never really trashed either of them.
He kind of had a point in the argument. He’s bought rental, passed the bar, etc. He DID accomplish those things, yet she still won’t let her anger go. She got what she wanted!
Craig and Austen telling Thomas and Whitney that their dating advice is well…dated…was priceless.
The best advice would be do the complete opposite of what those two recommend. Craig is correct, it is creepy. Just like it is creepy that Thomas and Whitney think it is completely fine that their social circle is basically young enough to be their kids.
Naomi needs to take a long walk off a short pier. Craig can do so much better.
I think Whitney is gay. That fake long distance romance he had was clearly just for the taping of the show. Also Whitney lives in Los Angeles these days and only comes to Charleston occassionaly when Southern Charm is taping. You will notice nothing of Whitneys personal life is on camera. He is only on camera at social get togethers with the boys of BBq’s.
or BBQ’s I meant.
Wonder why Whitney was drinking water?
I saw a full shot glass in front of him. So maybe the water is a chaser?
No, he didn’t drink the shot. Austen gave his shot to someone else.
I still stand by my claim that Namomie will do anything for camera time. Again, I hope the producers do not intend to make us watch a performance of Namomie bitching Craig out every week ! Personally, I can not stand that female.
I like Cameran and Chelsea so much because they are funny.
Naomie is terrible to Craig! He is a great guy even if he is not as 9-to-5 driven as she is. Owning and managing rental properties is a fine thing for him to do–he can serve as his own lawyer in that, and it will give him lots of free time–a great lifestyle. A more chill woman would love a guy like that, and he is kind-hearted, which is huge. Naomie’s loss!
I don’t like Peyton–hope we don’t have to see too much of her this season.
I think Naomi can chill out, get a job with all of her degrees & let Craig do his thing enough to be a stay at home Dad. He would be an excellent homemaker.
OMG, YASSSS! CRAIG WOULD BE THE BEST dad!! I hadn’t thought of him in tgat capacity at all! Awwww, i live him even more now…
Too many errors to correct. Read as I LOVE CRAIG
The way he was with the cat, the gardening the sewing etc. I could see him being a great stay at home Dad while also doing the other projects he wants plus every time they show his parents I can tell family life was a positive experience and he would love to have that himself.
Cameran was on WWHL tonight, and she had 3 or 4 bobby pins holding back the right side of her hair–but hers, unlike Dorit’s, didn’t look like they had been put in by a 5-year-old. They looked good.
I thought the exact thing !!
Whoa! I am new to the game and didn’t know that Mr. R was a commenter on here. Fourth wall broke! TT, i just started reading you and I can piece together that you lived in Charleston/have ties there.
I’ve nothing clever to add but I keep forgetting to comment about one of my favorite additions to this season. Taking the intro song and adding new segments to enhance drama. LOVE!
Great recap and comments.
What Thomas did/does to Kathryn makes me so fucking angry. Let’s all remember she was not 32. She was 21 and believed his lies. He took advantage of her and still does. Makes me see red. Craig is hurting. I hate seeing him hurting. I used to like Naomi but she needs to chill out. I could listen to Chelsea talk all day. Austin is an idiot going for Peyton. I cant stand her. She isnt even cute. Why are they making her a thing? I’ve had that conversation with an ex before where you meet to talk. Cameras aren’t there so we fuck and then finally talk and leave “break up still on.” Its hard. Shep is annoying. Ashley is a cunt. Kathryn has way more will power than me sitting at that lunch. Then disgusting Thomas inviting the mother of your children to trick or treat with your ho is so shitty. Fuck him.
I thought Kathryn looked silly for acting like she didn’t know Thomas was dating Ashley because HE didn’t tell her. Now she has to continue the charades.
I think she is making a passive aggressive point of you fucking dick posted all over social media about your moved all the way to SC new ho but never had the decency to TELL ME this bitch is hanging with my children I gave birth to a week after you met her. Bottom line Thomas never told her so she “doesnt know.” Oh but she knows…
I love Naomi! I know she is not everyone’s cup of tea. She is blunt and direct but she speaks the truth. Craig is not productive and spends all day sleeping when he is not sewing.
There is blunt and there is critical bitch that puts her partner down all day every day. Naomie is the latter.
Tamara, first, let me thank you again for your wonderful blogging. You are the best!
Second, it seems possible that Naomie’s parents put her up to this.
I’m with you, Mrs. K. Naomi is fed up not just because Craig is lazy but he refuses to take any responsibility for his own laziness. He blames everyone else. Remember when he was supposed to make placards for the items in the charity auction and he waited until the last minute, had computer problems, and didn’t get it done and HE got angry? His personality outweighs his looks by miles.
Beg to differ, with respect. Craig is not lazy. He’s also not conventional. But he’s smart. He likes making a home, and he got himself a law degree so that he could be a supercharged invstor in real estate. So he matched his education to his passion. I call that very smart.
Also, he’s a stone fox. Let’s hear it for Delaware!
Naomi is very structured and needs someone who is the same and likewise, is accomplished or working towards high achievement. Not these slackers., I do like Craig but not for her.
Naomie is tryna ruin this for me. I can’t sit through another one of those stupid scenes. I wish they would show the real reason for the fights because this is zzzzz.
K. Cooper Ray makes me swoon.
The episode I just watched was so sad. Shep just does not look well. Like an old dog trying to chase the ball one more time.
Craig is one kind of human, Naomie another. As someone who attempted that kind of mess once, it won’t work and a clean break is best. Horrified Naomie is stalking him. That is so wrong. I don’t even know my spouses’s password. Craig’s domesticity is cool. Line of the season “What’s wrong with my sewing?” Let’s get this man knitting!
Whitney and Thomas are both younger than me by just a couple years. I cannot imagine going on camera like they do.
Mr. Ray, as a fiber artist, your work on men’s clothing is exceptionally fine. Spouse and I were rewatching seasons JUST to see your talent in design. The work inspires me and my drawing. Classic with a twist, in good fabric. Heaven! When I come to Charleston, I hope to see some designs in a shop.
My childhood best friend plays piano on Folly most of the week. I watch for him every season. He never spills tea, so it’s up to me to catch his playing.
Strange season.
I totally see Craig knitting. He’d be a gas at a stich-and-bitch!
I cannot believe how Naomie attacks Craigs lifestyle, he supports himself & doesn’t live with his parents. He has accomplished everything he set out to do all on his own without a trust fund. He passed the bar, has income from the show & rental property plus he’s damn talented at sewing. If the the guy wants to sleep til noon and sew all day so bet it!
Last night on WWHL, Cameron said that Craig’s sewing wasn’t very good. I felt so bad, knowing that he would hear her say that. Poor guy will be crushed.
Cam can be such a bitch. He tried to make her sweet handmade gifts and she had to say that.
Please, he gave her a teddy bear in pieces as a gift. Andy asked her about it. Some sew all the time and aren’t good at it. My aunt for example couldn’t ease in a sleeve to save her life even though she has been sewing for decades. She doesn’t have the patience to hand sew properly either. Sewing relaxes her so we take her stuff with a grin and a thank you. Maybe ur’s The hum of the machine.
Thomas sounded like someone giving dating advice in thev1950’s. So creepy. Have we met Craig’s roommate/bff before on the show or just this season?
One other thing that struck me in the last episode. Elizabeth was very vocal about her indignaton and anger at Naomie after the JD take down episode aired but when they showed the clip of Elizabeth & Naomie meeting after the baby shower, Elizabeth didn’t seem angry. I don’t believe that JD didn’t go straight home and bitch Elizabeth out for sharing with Naomie. So why the delayed indignation?
I can’t remember who was feeding the cat at the beginning of the show, but was that a gizmo sighting?
It was Naomie feeding the cat. I didn’t pay attention to whether it was Gizmo she was feeding but I do know that Gizmo was her cat before she met Craig and she kept the cat when they split.
K Cooper Ray is everything!!!!!!!!!! Wish he was back on the show!
Same here. I miss him and his shade.
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia
Mountain mamma, take me home
Country roads❤️
I’ll keep the lights on if you ever find yourself in my part of NC. Love and miss you on SC. x
Lol, love ya!
I’m glad I’m not the only one wondering what’s happened to Shep. Sure, I think we all have a general sense of why he’s looking so rough lately (cough- he partied WAY too hard -cough), but it’s still troubling to see him deteriorate on national TV like this.
Speaking of trouble, I’m also glad I’m not the only one who sensed “something in the buttermilk ain’t clean” re Patricia. It was actually a trip here to TT that exposed me to more of her true history.
Back to the men, why is it that they’re all able to get away with being “bon vivants”/”ne’er-do-well’s”, while Kathryn still gets raked over hot coals for the wrongs that she’s now (seemingly) trying to make right? Whenever I think about this, I understand why Kathryn, Naomie, and Chelsea are on the war path this season.
Re: Kathryn. Lay all the blame at the foot of PATina. She fought ferociously to have her OFF the show. She wanted Downtown Abbey, not Tobacco Road (a distinctly throaty cackle is heard off screen). Ole Miss feeds the men with a potent mix of money (vigorously displayed) , sexiness (she always exudes), deferential charm (when called for) and diva posture (duh). She has no need for little women and certainly not an ambitious slut fresh from the sticks. Hits a little too close for comfort – Elle, n’est-ce pas, il peut se le permettre?
Remember how she didn’t like Whitney’s “assistant” the beautiful Brandi?? #competition
In a way, I want to say she and Cameran appear similar in that they play to the men.
Re: Kathryn. Lay all the blame at the foot of PATina. She fought ferociously to have her OFF the show. She wanted Downtown Abbey, not Tobacco Road (a distinctly throaty cackle is heard off screen). Ole Miss feeds the men with a potent mix of money (vigorously displayed) , sexiness (she always exudes), deferential charm (when called for) and diva posture (duh). She has no need for little women and certainly not an ambitious slut fresh from the sticks. Hits a little too close for comfort – n’est-ce pas, il peut se le permettre?
This is everything. Dying. I’m dead. I❤️You!
Seconded. I’m still amazed that Cooper himself responded to my comment!
“Something in the buttermilk an’t clean”. That is awesome! I’m going to start using that. It could a Housewives tagline
/snickers silently to self
Well, I figured you’d get my reference. Is it wrong that whenever I see Ms. Patricia on Southern Charm, I’m reminded of a certain “Ultimate Southern Belle” who had her own strange scandals on RHOA?
I just started watching. RHOA. But I’m dying to know which one you’re referring to. Is it the “famous” country singer Kim? They are running a marathon today and it seems to be from one of the first seasons. By the way, does that woman ever put down the wine glass?
Wait, Kim uses a wine glass? Oh yeah, I think she did during the early years… Before she gave up trying to wash them and instead opted for the famous red solo cup.
Anyhoo, she’s not the one who said that. I’ll give you some hints: She’s the one who introduced herself onto RHOA as some sort of “attorney to the stars”, suddenly developed an interest in the funeral business, constantly fought with Kenya, and pushed the rumor about Kandi that rocked the entire network last year.
I was thinking it might be Pheadra. But the big boobs, blonde hair and your right the Red solo cup blinded me watching today’s marathon. “Where is your scooter! Where is your scooter!”
I hope mr. T RAV is happy with how he has shamed her throwing her to the wolves and sits back and does whatever the hell he wants with that smirk on his face.
She’s not a saint we all know this but who is let’s be honest all of us have our faults and our sins she’s a human being who has had two children and just once to be a mother to those children and not drug through the mud and it does look like she’s doing what she needs to do to be a mother maybe we don’t know everything it’s hard to watch this.
Terrible T RAV, I hope you’re happy with yourself step back smirk make your jokes be the creepy man that you’re portraying it’s disgusting give her the chance.
You’re ruining and wonderful opportunity
When the kids get grown and find out all the information, its going to come back to haunt TRav.
We will be dead by then.
I was going to say TRav will be dead when the kids are grown.
kd is much more a mature adult than t-rav; he is gross and seems to hold all the cards. yes, she made plenty of mistakes but she was lied to by him as well and onlty 21. no court seems to have a problem w him drinking like a fish and shoving a women he’s known for a minute in his kids face. he’s obessed w tormenting kd. she seems to have gotten her act together and the kids would benefit from as much time w her as possible vs nannies and ho’s who are trying to get themselves married and on a show.
on another note, naiomi doesnt want craig but doesnt want anyone else to have him. shes trying to keep her spot on the show. craig is a nice guy but definitely has issues — finally passes the bar — why is he sitting home sewing?? mayb if he lost the show income, it would give him the kick he needs to get his life going?
Yep. Again, it’s this flagrant double standard that truly irks me. Kathryn screws up, and she gets branded with the scarlet letter. But whenever T-Rav does his “rich boy gone wild” act, folks just shrug it off and note how he’s such a great catch because he’s a Ravenel. I guess Patricia herself let us in on the secret last season (?), when she told Landon, “It takes money, honey.”
Of all the “Lost Boys of Charleston”, I seem to have an enduring soft spot for Craig. It does seem like he’s trying to become a better person, though I also get why Naomie ran out of patience. Maybe he actually is more of an artistic/creative type, and if that’s truly the case, he needs to make peace with that and find a soulmate who’s cool with that.
I agree with you on Craig. I was not team Craig the last two seasons because he seemed to have no drive or ambition AT ALL. But there are always two sides to every coin and this season it’s very easy to see the dementor living within Naomie that literally sucks Craig’s soul from his body. His true match will support and encourage his artistic side. He’s accomplished what he set out to and now I’m totally team Craig!
To me, it just seems like they’re not really a good romantic match for each other. Naomie seems to want someone who has more structure in his life, while Craig seems more interested in exploring his creative side.
Hey SOUTHERN CHARMERS! You know what comes in immediately after Southern Charm? IMPOSTER’S! Keep your tv and watch it or set your DVD to record it.
Pretty please?