Jurors just gave the guilty verdict in court on their second day of deliberation. Cosby was found guilty of three counts of aggravated sexual assault on Andrea Constand in 2004. More than fifty women have come forward with similar charges but the statue of limitation had ended. Five women, including Janice Dickinson, testified that Cosby had sexually assaulted and drugged them in the past.
The sentence for each count is up to ten years and $25,000. It is unclear if he will actually serve time or if he will go into custody today. It is unlikely as there is no doubt the defense will appeal. Cosby is 80 years old.
The prosecutors asked for Cosby’s bail to be revoked. They said they believe he is a flight risk because he has a private plane.
Cosby himself stood up and screamed “HE DOES NOT HAVE A PRIVATE PLANE YOU ASSHOLE!”
Ultimately he was allowed to keep his Million dollar bail. He is not allowed to leave Pennsylvania. He has a GPS tracker. His passport is being held.
Lolol. That sounds like somethings my Grandma would say, but she’s not a rapist nor a criminal.
Cosby will appeal until he’s dead. He can afford it.
And that’s not to say I like him or defend him in any way whatsoever. I just love old people and that is a very old person thing to say.
There is special place in hell for that asshole and I hope it finds him in the afterlife since I’m very doubtful it will in this lifetime since he has the money to drag this shit out forever.
I drove through Norristown probably an hour before the verdict came out, as soon as i got in the car to come back home i heard the verdict and did an immediate u-turn to take the long way home and avoid the courthouse. But boy was I clapping and hootin and hollerin in my car! People around here have known he was a pig for a very long time, maybe not to horrible extent he was found guilty of today but we were taught he was not to be admired or worshipped.
TT, I heard on one of the local news channels that he was to be confined to his Elkins Park estate via GPS. It’s funny, I tend to believe you!
BeetsWhy, I live in Montgomery County (not far from Norristown) and I totally agree. I can’t even imagine the scene at the Courthouse. Yes, I understand he is to remain in his house nearby with a tracking device as well.
Howdy neighbor!
Justice is finally served. Thinking of the victims now.
One down. How many to go?
Cosby’s attorney’s statement was, “We are very disappointed in the verdict. We don’t think Cosby is guilty of anything.”
He just turns my stomach.
With over 50 women coming forward, I “think” he is! Interesting an attorney would phrase it that way about their client’s innocence.
Me too. Cosby is clearly guilty. Just because his crimes caught up to him while he is an octaganarain doesn’t mean he should be punished any more lightly or allowed to bail out with the clear flight risk that he is. Disappointed that the public was fooled for decades that this man was the wholesome dad when he was now proven to be a predator.
Why would he jump off that gravy train? He will squeeze every dime out of that pig. They deserve each other.
I also loved that DA Steele said the $3.4 million that Andrea got the first time around was not nearly enough to make up for what he did to her.
Throw away the key on him. Gross
When this first broke, someone made an interesting comment in response to an article about Cosby: Since so many women described being immediately and completely knocked out upon drinking something he gave them, wonder if Cosby overdid it with some victims, dumped their bodies, and could this explain some unsolved murders during the time he was preying on women?
Oh goodness, that’s a scary thought. You could be onto something
That’s what I thought when I read it initially — how scary. When something like this comes out, they should check into unsolved murders and examine the toxicology reports.
Bill Cosby had sex with women without consent. He’s not being accused of murder. The lesson in all of these cases is to never ever be in a room, building or home with a man alone.
I didn’t say he had murder charges. I was plainly observing that given his MO, looking into cases that resulted in dead women with similar toxicity would be prudent.
I happen to have degrees in a male-dominated field and I resent the implication that I cannot do my job without suspecting every man of being a potential rapist and that I would be the responsible party if something happened. Furthermore, if I enter any given building and find there’s a man there, am I left with the choice to run or be the guilty one? Women can be criminals as well, btw.
You forget that he’s also accused of drugging them. And now not just accused, but convicted.
Unfortunately, his attorneys will undoubtedly drag out the appeals process until he’s dead so he’ll be on luxurious home confinement until then. This isn’t justice for these women. I’m sickened.
Damn, that’s a great point! Which Police department would you have to tip off? Elkins Park is in Cheltenham Township, that’s where he lives. Or would it be DA Steele at the Montgomery County Courthouse? hmmmmm….
So i’m watching a lawyer talk about his sentencing, that has to happen between 60-90 days in PA. Once he is sentenced he goes to jail while they prepare his appeal. They didn’t get more into it, is that automatic or can the judge keep him on house arrest while the appeal is prepared?
If he is on house arrest i think Andrea should be able to pick the house. If he goes right to jail it better not be county, federal pen all the way.
He will not go to federal prison, which is actually much nicer than state prison or county jail. He is convicted of a state crime.
It should be automatic that he begins to serve his sentence while an appeal is pending unless certain conditions are met, which usually involve the judge determining he has a good chance of winning on appeal. His age and/or infirmity should not impact that, but I was not happy to hear the judge mention those things when he continued bail pending sentencing (although bail pending sentencing is not unusual). I hope the judge doesn’t give him house arrest or probation based on age etc instead of prison. Celebrities do have an easier time with sentencing unfortunately, but the world is watching.
His house is gated and there is no real place for pickets to stand safely on the road.
I am surprised at myself at all the feelings I have about this situation. How many people knew what was happening and did nothing? Why the hell did they keep their mouths shut? (I wonder the same thing about Harvey Weinstein, Michael Jackson, the assholes I have dealt with in my life, etc, etc. etc.) I feel very saddened that people of great talent or ability also seem to be plagued by great demons. I am heartened that the world seems to be changing. I hope the time where people can commit sex crimes with impunity against those over whom they have some sort of power will end in my lifetime. Though I am a fat old lady, and the number of men who feel entitled to treat me like a piece of meat has diminished, I still see so many people behaving badly, and so many other people letting them, in the world of work.
Totally agree…Cosby’s on-screen daughter ‘Lisa Bonet’ commented a few months ago that there was something “Dark & Sinister” about Cosby…which alluded to the fact that they all knew he had demons. I believe, for the sake of their careers/money, they turned a blind eye..
Bonet felt that darkness, as people do give off their energy. Some are more sensetive to it too. But its ironic, how really well people can get away with putting out a certain image, that is nothing like who they really are. I have a co worker who thinks Cosby is innocent, and thinks she has good intuitive or psychic sense too. Its laughable. Theres too many victims, some who have plenty of their own money, plus he has admitted to drugging a woman, I think. Its not a matter of being a sex addict and a womanizer, thats not a crime. He drugged women so he could do whatever he wanted to do to their bodies. They didnt consent, and thats kidnapping and rape. The psychology of a man like that must really be something else. Its not like he couldnt get sex from scores of willing women, or prostitutes, he wanted to control and use a woman, like a human blow up doll. As far as women reporting it years ago, they should have, but I doubt they would have been believed. It would have been nice if one of them had tried, but they were probably too afraid, and the drugs impacted their memory, and they feared going up against the Cosby team.
What’s even more sad is this man had a wife and begat children. How did he treat his wife? Did the wife know about these allegations? His children? I believe his son was murdered in the mid/late 90s? I remember hearing about it. Maybe a form of divine justice in a way? Sad and sickening all around. I remember hearing how a lot of black comics turned away from him after he commented how there shouldn’t be profanity in comedy. I don’t remember who he was shading. Was it Pryor or Eddie Murphy? I’m too lazy to google. I am confident that if justice isn’t served on Earth it shall be served upon death, and that type of justice is eternal!
Leave Michael Jackson out of this. Let’s not go there because he NEVER!
Yes, it will drag on and on and he will live in comfort.
Still, finally, the woman he and his team have trashed has a jury saying “we heard you and yes, he did”.
I wonder if he will see a day in jail. The judge was already citing his health in denying the revocation of bail. Except in extraordinary circumstances, health is not a bar to imprisonment. Prisons have doctors and medical facilities. Otherwise, everyone and his brother would be too sick to go to jail. If he’s been well enough to attend court every day and smirk during women’s testimony, he’s well enough to go to jail.
He has multiple homes, including a townhouse in NYC. The home he is currently doing house arrest while on bail is right down the street from me. I drive by every day on the way to work.
Cosby has always struck me as an arrogant man. His insistence on being called “Dr Cosby” is one example. Unless one is in academia, which he is not, PhDs are not referred to as doctors, any more than lawyers (who have juris doctorate degrees) are called doctor. I have been reading that various colleges and universities have been taking away his honorary degrees.
My only thing is why isn’t this rape? This is rape? Is it because the statute of limitations ran out on rape long ago for these crimes and charging him with sexual assault was a way around the rape law and if so why can’t they use that loop hole for all the other rapists out there????
Let us be clear here – these are only charges for what he did to ONE woman, that did not rise to the legal definition of rape in that jurisdiction (or that teh prosecutor felt he or she had a stronger case of making these three charges stick vs. outright rape… I’ve not tracked this particular case). He did this to her in 2004 (and she came forward, which may have negated the whole statute of limitations if it was an open case).
Hasn’t rape been renamed sexual assault in the legal system?
yes. He was charged with aggravated indecent assault (three counts)
A person is guilty of indecent assault if the person has indecent contact with the complainant, causes the complainant to have indecent contact with the person or intentionally causes the complainant to come into contact with seminal fluid, urine or feces for the purpose of arousing sexual desire in the person or the complainant and:
the person does so without the complainant’s consent;
the person does so by forcible compulsion;
the person does so by threat of forcible compulsion that would prevent resistance by a person of reasonable resolution;
the complainant is unconscious or the person knows that the complainant is unaware that the indecent contact is occurring;
the person has substantially impaired the complainant’s power to appraise or control his or her conduct by administering or employing, without the knowledge of the complainant, drugs, intoxicants or other means for the purpose of preventing resistance;
the complainant suffers from a mental disability which renders the complainant incapable of consent;
the complainant is less than 13 years of age; or
the complainant is less than 16 years of age and the person is four or more years older than the complainant and the complainant and the person are not married to each other.
It doesn’t get much Rapeier than that.
What”s in a name? For a rape by any other name would still violate as complete.
What”s in a name? For a rape by any other name would still violate as complete.
Thank you TT, you are a goldmine of information.
I only asked as I have 3 friends who got the “statute of limitations” line and it appeared these prosecutors got around it. They are in PA also.
The victim initially filed in 2005 (within a year of the assault) there was not enough evidence to proceed. Then later, more evidence became available and the case was allowed to be reopened.
You would make a damn good lawyer!!
THANK YOU JESUS!!!!!!
He will die in jail.
TT, do you have any inside scoop on the sentencing guidelines?
I doubt he goes to jail. CNN says there is no mandatory minimum for this charge.
Between two and three months from now sentencing will take place. According to the PA sentencing matrix it suggests 22-36 months (boot camp is an option for those under 40) for EACH OFFENSE.
I also found out why there were three charges. One is basic sexual assault, one is sexual assault while the victim is impaired/unable to consent, the third is sexual assault while unconscious.
I think he will probably get home confinement.
My husband said watch he commit suicide, but I think he’s driven by ego so I don’t think that will happen and I hope it doesn’t happen. I would love to see him go to jail that’s just sad all the way around disgusting, gross, creepy so much hatred and fear that he possesses inside to do such an unimaginable thing to another human being that’s horrible.
There’s one detail that will haunt me forever (Not from this case, but an interview with several of his victims.) One of the women woke up during the rape, but was completely paralyzed. That effect wore off afterwards, but I can’t imagine a more terrifying combination of events.
I don’t know if he’ll ever face jail time, but I know that even this conviction means so much to his victims.
Good. I hope that he rots with his loving wife by his side.
Auntie Velvet that was my thought also. The women, the victims have lived many years watching him succeed in life, be praised for his charitable work and be treated like the Icon he was to so many black entertainers. They must be feeling jfinally they are believed and some satisfaction.
Guessing many of the women were still in pain and many consumed with anger, hope his conviction helps them.
Conviction of Cosby sealed how his history will be told and how he will be remembered. I imagine there is a sense of loss and sadness for many today. He meant so much to so many and that is gone.
Hey Hey Hey Fat Albert,
Rest In Peace.
Most people do not want a serial rapist to rest in peace, they want him to burn in fucking hell. Perhaps you could join him there.
Wow I was burying a cartoon character of Bill Cosby’s.
I had no idea your dislike of my comments went so deep.
I’ve been where many of his accuser were, I had a entire small town turn on me, another girl, my family and her family. It was years before I understood the impact of what happened to us and how it changed the course of so many lives. I don’t know who I could have become had I had early counseling or “it” never happened or had we been believed.
I don’t display anger or viterol towards these men because for me it does no good. Only the justice system can do this for me.
I will not wish or hope for something terrible to happen to anyone, it’s not in my nature any longer.
Calipatti, for what it’s worth I knew what you meant. I personally buried Dr. Huxtable and Fat Albert around ’06 when a Newsweek article blew this all open, but justice has been maddeningly slow.
I knew what you meant too
Auntie Velvet, thank you and hugs. Your words mean a lot.
NancySmokies. You too Lady big thanks. Hugs 🤗
I love your spirit Calipatti!!! Keep shining!!!
Calipatti, I figured out what you meant, too–but I had to re-read what you had written above to be sure, so I get why TT jumped to her remark.
I remember lying around the living room listening to Bill Cosby comedy albums with my brothers and father (my Mom was too busy to join us)–it was one of the few times in our childhood that we hung out and laughed together.
Later, I would watch The Bill Cosby Show with both my parents, thinking how much my Dad and Cosby could be alike. Sadly, in reality, they were very much alike.
Engineer, thank you. I was recalling over the years how many black actors and others credited Cosvy for showing a educated black family on tv.They admired him in so many ways. I was expressing my concern or awareness for their loss.
I don’t understand how that could be so misunderstood. Their loss is real even if I don’t share in it.
The man is horrid but it’s a double whammy for others.
Thank you.
Cali, my heart goes out to you. I read your story about your monster teacher, the trial, the hurtful neighbors, the other victim’s suicide and the trucker from your hometown who gave you immeasurable comfort with those three small, but precious words, “I believe you.”
I believe you, Calipatti.
It took great courage for you to run after the truck driver, inquire about the (cough) “pillar of the community,” and then share your story. This may sound too familiar, but I am so proud of you!
That’s all any of us want: to be believed.
Well, that, and for the perpetrators to be stopped…and punished..
You never know, your fearless actions, as both a child and an adult, may have prevented the pedophile from assaulting one less individual.
* one MORE individual (big difference! knew something didn’t sound right, but must’ve been too sleepy to catch it)
How do you take this out on his wife? She didn’t do this but she did stand by him through it all. How many years has she been with him? How many children do they have? If a wife won’t stand by her husband, who will. Yes, she has this major grievance with him but publicly she is there. Privately, who knows. They have a world of history. If I ever snap, I hope someone stands by me. Actually I hope I don’t ever snap but you know what I mean.
We throw everything away too easily for my taste.
I don’t see Cosby in prison. He will appeal until dead and/ir may find the judge who will let him skate relatively speaking.
Janice Dickensen gives me the skeevees but in 1982, she should have reported this. In 1982 if he had been convicted, he would be in Prison. Even in the 90’s he could have been sent on his way. He and a bizillion other guys.
I am going to be ok with this if the result is a positive change that helps women going forward.
Muff, how do you figure she would have been believed in 1982? No chance. Only now that Cosby has been found guilty and Weinstein is well on his way do women have a chance.
Sadly these are both serial rapists with many victims. i’m not sure how it will affect the woman who is alone in her accusation. Look at that that fuckwit at Stanford who got three months because he was a good student and a good swimmer. There were two witnesses to that one to boot!
Because she was known Internationally and people were prosecuted in the 80’s. In 2018, Janice was still at the top of her game but now she talks, no evidence but has been yakking it up. I am only saying I wish the noise had started early on. Don’t you kind of feel that you have been bilked? We watched the Cosby Show, he made money. We ate jello, he made money. If the stories were told from the start, could his progress have stalled? This has more to do with Trying to break in to tv or movies and knowing to keep quiet to succeed right.
I don’t think she would have been given much credence back then – there was still the policy of protecting stars and she would have had her lifestyle and morals dragged through the coals by the defense team. If it even got that far, which I doubt. She was a kind of wild, free-living model and he was America’s role model for a black comedian.
There are people who STILL don’t believe her – one douche actually has been posting that she is framing him and that she couldn’t possibly have been raped by him because she slept with these other famous people.
She was a super model, but she wasn’t as powerful as Bill Cosby. She had been raped.
STOP THE FUCKING VICTIM BLAMING.
It’s because Janice Dickinson is known to be the teeniest bit nuts and she is doing all she can including b category reality tv shows to try to remain relevant. She talks too much with all sordid detail to have never mentioned this.
At first I heard that he had to stay in the county. Now it seems to be at home.
I think he should be restricted to a closet. I really think he should be in a cell.
This and other cases have stirred up a lot of anger.
I completely understand.
This is why I am SO TRYING just to have simple gardening post. Any source of solace.
Lynn, he owns a home in the county. That is where he is confined I believe.
(Ironically, it is the home where the attack on the victim took place and why the trial was in the county.)
BECAUSE THAT BITCH KNEW AND COVERED IT UP JUST LIKE MY MOTHER.
I WANT HER DEAD TOO.
It sucks that when as a child and these things are happening to us, the “ADULTS” in our lives refuse to believe that its going on.
All the signs were there…..
So many bandaids…..
The scars after all these years still BLEED sometimes…..
I hear you TT.
Those who stand by and let evil happen are as guilty as the perpetrators. I’m sorry Tamara.
She probably gets money when he dies, might as well stick it out at this point.
I don’t know if I’ve posted this here before, but this is so long overdue, it’s not even funny. Back in the late-60’s, I was working in a large office in Long Beach, CA. We had a new employee come in who had just moved there from L.A., let’s call her Sheri, and had been working for production staff in the entertainment business. Somehow, Bill Cosby’s name came up since another employee was a huge fan of his, and she started to laugh. When we asked why, she said he was so different in real life than his on-air image. She said a friend of hers, who was the niece of a then-famous female ventriloquist, was having an affair with Cosby, and that she wasn’t the first. She said he was known as someone who was constantly aggressively on the prowl for women, and that it was an open secret in Hollywood. She also said his wife knew. We were all in shock as the only Cosby we knew was a clean-cut, funny, morally superior kind of guy. She didn’t mention anything about drugging women, or rape, at that time, just that he came on very strong. Still, he wasn’t the guy everyone thought he was.
I guess it was because of this that, when all the sexual assault charges began coming out of the woodwork, I wasn’t surprised, especially considering the volume of victims and their eerily similar stories.
It’s a pity it took this long to bring him to justice. I doubt he’ll ever see the inside of a jail cell, but at least everyone is finally aware of what and who he really is. The destruction of his career and public image has to have been a form of punishment, but nowhere near what he truly deserves.
The daily news cover today compared to the one they did when the charges were brought is genius and very moving. I’d link it but, you know, rules.
That was brilliant. Thx for the heads up.
How galling in retrospect for him to lecture blacks in America about self respect. And how satisfying to see that self-righteous fucker be exposed to the world for the rapist he is.
Where was Keisha Knight Pulliam? Did she decide to not support Bill anymore?
Somewhere trying to trap another dumb nigga to impregnate her.
This was for for verdict. I think she only came with him once for a show of support. Show of support wouldn’t help him at verdict. She knew him when she was a very young girl. He probably was a positive image for her..
Today is a good day for the future of women. One out of four women have had some type of sexual assault happen to them. Being a survivor of sexual abuse at the hands of my brother, while my parents knew, I pray there be a day that the statute of limitations disappears in these types of cases. The nightmares will never end, but some vindication would make things a little easier for us survivors. God bless this jury.
We stand together. I know they say it’s 1 out of four but I wonder if it’s more than that. No punishment for the perpetrators takes away the trauma. The fact that it happens at all and with such frequency is frightening.
Still wakes me up at night so many years later.
I know, Kate. Night is the worst. I agree, I believe the numbers are higher as I can only imagine the fear of saying anything outloud. Maybe, someday, we will be free. Sending hugs to you.
Sending all my love and peace to you dear. I can’t fathom how heartbreaking that would be. What’s done in the dark will always come to light and if they don’t answer in this life, we’ll be waiting at the door for them in the next life. Stay strong and beautiful my dear. Xx
I hope so. Mine is dead. A pillar of the community. A classmate of mine was a victim also, and she committed suicide. I have always wondered….
Sadly, with his bank account, he will not spend a day behind bars. As for his wife.. I have no sympathy for her. She has known what type of man she is married to. You don’t have something like this go on for DECADES and not have a clue!! Just like I don’t believe that the wife of the Boston Bomber didnt know what her husband and his brother were up to especially in that tiny house of theirs and I don’t believe that Jerry Samduski’s wife had no idea what he was doing with young boys down in their basement. Sorry Camille, you don’t get a pass!!!
How sad that someone like him abused his power and abused women. Those people who stayed silent were enablers and guilty as well. His wife is disgusting…no way she did not know unless she is deaf,blind and mute!
The millionaire lifestyle he provided made her dumb, deaf and mute!! She sold her soul to live in comfort. No moral compass. So many women like her. Sickening.
For there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed, neither hid, that shall not be known…Luke 12:2
Amen……
Thank you
Bill Cosby sickens me. I cannot understand why he did what he did. The contrast between his real life and potrayal on television is insane. I pray that all the women he violated find peace. I can only imagine turning on the tv, going grocery shopping, having conversation and being confronted with the image of the vile creature who violated you. His wife should be ashamed of herself because I don’t for one second believe she did not know. And even if she didn’t know’ when everything was presented to her, she should have made him GET HIS SHIT AND GET TO STEPPING, cane and all. Their entire marriage was a lie, atleast that’s how I would see it. I been laying up next to a demon for over 30 years, bore his children, ran the household, etc. Fuck Bill, Fuck his wife and Fuck that raggedy bitch Keisha Pulliam for supporting his trifling ass.
Sadly, I feel he’s still partially won because he isn’t sitting in jail right now. If I or any other working class citizen had been found guilty of his crime, we would be in jail immediately.
Did the age or health of his victims matter when he was raping them? Did they get to walk freely while appealing his decision to rape them? Did he take into account their special needs before deciding to assault them?
He stripped them of their right to bodily autonomy, mental health, and physical wellbeing. Why is the court so concerned with his then? Why is the court protecting him from the consequences of his heinous actions when he didn’t protect any of those women?
I pray that he in sentenced to prison and not given further special treatment. Each one of the women he assaulted are in a prison of their own serving a life sentence. They will be forever hurt, scarred, and damaged from what he has done to them. It’s now time for his reckoning.
I am remembering 2 things that won’t go away.
Mike Tyson raped Bill Cosby’s daughter. She told her Dad. Dad had a conversation with Mike Tyson and made him promise not to do it again or something. I thought that was strange, now I realize that even when it was his daughter, boys will be boys. It chills me to the bone.
Second, Lisa Bonet was fired for going topless in a movie. She had her own show that Bill Cosby produced. Suddenly her career was over. What a hypocrite.
Google Erin Cosby Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson did subsequently tape another woman
This isn’t Cosby but Ann Curry is saying that she complained about Matt Lauer in 2014. Wasn’t she taken off of Today because Matt Lauer didn’t like her? Why didn’t she sue? WOMEN, dont put up with this anymore!
I understand TT’s anger towards me on this subject. My assault changed me but not as deeply as the trial. Not as deeply as the smug looks of people as we left town. Not as deeply as my return visit 25 years later not knowing the good citizens of this great American small town still reveled in their self-rightness memories.
It was a closed courtroom so none of them knew what was testified to.
About 10 years later I had stopped at one of those interstate rest stops that had a restaurant. As I was entering a truck driver, approx 35-40 was joking around with a few others. He had a good face.
I had seen a big rig parked with my small town name on it, XXX Trucking.
The name on his shirt matched the owners name, no dummy.
As he walked out towards his truck I ran after him. I said I was from his home town and wondered how the place was doing. He was open to talk so I let him. I finally mentioned how the town got behind Mr. XXXX the teacher and really protected him. His chest puffed out, with a big smile he said they sure did. I asked how the teacher was doing. He went on to say he transferred to the HS from middle grades, had a nice home out near him and would retire that year.
I looked at him and said I am one of those girls and does he have kids.
I went sort of out I’d myself and told him from the beginning, how it wasn’t our idea to go to court. I couldn’t quite get the exact words out about what the man did to us, but he nodded he understood. I recall at one point I spoke in a little girl voice.
I ended with, We were three little girls and no one believed us.
He looked at me and said, “ I believe you”
Those words even as I write this mean more to me than I can explain.
TT yes it was an entire town and I do know.
I’m sure that teacher meant so much to so many. Hey Hey Hey Cali’s Teacher! Live a long happy life and Rest In Peace.
Okay TT, I understand.
Cali, your story brings home to me that you can never look at people and have any idea of the tortures they have gone through. I’m so sorry that happened to you – no young child should ever have to endure anything like that, and then not to be believed? You sound like you’re a strong, intelligent woman and, despite your frustration and understandable anger, you have survived. I wish you all the very best.