I’ve been out of it all day. The next thing I know I’m staring at a bunny eating clover in my front yard and Banjo interrupts to let me know it is dinner time (7pm). I got nothing accomplished today. I’m feeling BLAH. On days like this, I would normally be dreading a housewives recap because they have to be done as quickly as possible. But I am excited for RHONY. On the other hand, this weird thing has been happening with me. The older I get, I think I’m becoming a Buddhist or something. If I kill a fly or an ant or a spider I feel a twinge of sadness. I bring this up because I’m experiencing some compassion for Sonja. I know a lot of things about Sonja. I had an inside source with Sonja for a long time. She is definitely the person behind all the anonymous Page Six stories on the other housewives. The inside scoop about her made me feel a bit sad for her, even if she was not so kind to lots of people related to the show. Tonight’s episode description makes it seem really rough on Sonja. I get she has fucked over a lot of these women, I really hate the cast trips where she and Ramona make a big deal over the rooms. She can be a bit much. But the way Dorinda, and others come for her this season makes me feel badly for her. It’s like Sonja is on the short jitney to the Hamptons and bullying kids on the short bus is just wrong.
Dorinda and Erika Jayne both have something in common here. Their true personalities have surfaced and it ain’t pretty. Dorinda does a lot of mean stuff when she is drunk. As someone who also drinks more than I should, I would be the first person to forgive that. The difference is I generally profess my undying love to people in emails, or talk about how something someone said or did hurt me and why. And the next day I feel shame and embarrassment for my behavior. Dorinda goes apeshit on people and is mean and a bully and as far as I can tell sober Dorinda has no shame or guilt. That’s scary.
Dorinda is in for a downfall and that will probably devastate her since people have been applauding her and adulating over her since her first season. Dorinda has the nerve to play the victim in her attack on Sonja and demand an apology? And everyone is on Dorinda’s side? Ramona is being a shitty person. Only Lu tries to defend Sonja.
Bethenny has bought a beautiful historical home in the Hamptons as a rental property. She said that her situation with Fredrik as co-investors doesn’t work in the Hamptons because he only wanted 25% interest so she just bought it herself. She seems to think it is a fixerupper but it is stunning in its current state. Like I want to cry I love this house so much. Thank you Tinsley for agreeing with me. While Bethenny, Tinsley and Carole are looking at the house, Dorinda calls and gives a drunken and completely wrong interpretation of her assault on Sonja. She says that Sonja brought up her husband. That never happened she brought up her dead husband and threw in Sonja’s face that her husband left her because she cheated on him (no proof of that I have ever seen) and he husband died still in love with her. Then we get Carole the cunt who was not even there practically mansplaining the difference between death and divorce. Carole just needs to go ahead and transition at this point. Bethenny in her talking head is a bit saner. She says if the love of your life is still walking the earth without you, that’s pretty painful.
Speaking of batshit, Ramona is trying to explain investments to Dorinda. While I agree with Ramona and will give her the benefit of the doubt about rental income, this bathroom scene seems crazy to me and Ramona’s obsession with Bethenny buying a second, or third or fourth income property makes her seem really jealous.
Speaking of people I don’t like anymore. Welcome to the club Tinsley. Tinsley and Carole are like those snotty girls from high school who know one really liked but we all pretended we did because some how they were in the in group. Ramona continues to brag on her home as she prepares for her dinner party. It’s cold and flu season so we probably should not make anything out of Tinsley touching her nose a lot when she has her back to the camera while hanging with Carole.
While the Versace (I think) place settings are lovely. I HATE the rattan chairs and there should be a table cloth on that table. Or place mats. Utensils should never be set directly on a table. And could the place cards be any cheaper? (I’m looking at you, production) Aren’t these people supposed to be rich? John shows up for dinner. He seems to be her rescuer this season. Hopefully, he will yank her out of there tonight as she was already super wasted at lunch. Though John gets a bit touchy feely with Carole when she arrives in some sort a tattoo body stocking under her LBD. I often chastise y’all for saying someone of certain again should not do something, so I won’t say this is a ridiculous costume for Carole. But I am thinking it. LOL Thank you Bethenny for saying what I was thinking. She looks like someone in a motorcycle gang in the Hamptons. How did I become a Bethenny fan? Dennis on the other hand comes in very under-dressed and carrying Bethenny’s hostess gift like Gregg Leakes. #Sad Carole says everyone is jealous of her “major, major fashion moment.” Le sigh.
Dennis says Bethenny hates his sweater. It’s Gucci and he has a lot of them and Bethenny likes to throw them out. It’s HIDEOUS, Dennis. I would not wear it to an ugly sweater contest. Listen to Bethenny. You look like a damn fool. It’s embarrassing.
Lu and Sonja arrive. Ramona is lying to Bethenny in her recap of brunch. Dorinda admits in her talking head she is stirring the pot.
Let’s eat! (sorry this is taking forever, there is just so much to discuss). Carole complains about dinner being buffet style and she is pissed there is no marathon “memorabilia” there. Because, cunt. They do all toast Carole. Carole wants a real marathon party.
Dorinda loves Dennis. Like a lot. Richard was bald. She brings up Richard eleventy billion times. Luann has an awkward moment when she realizes that Dennis is the guy that she said at the reunion that Bethenny was dating who is married.
Dorinda claims that Sonja is not dating Rocco. I believe she is (not sources) but the French guy was total bullshit. (again no sources). Good God I am already at 1200 words and we are half way though. Pray for me. Dorinda says “liar, liar, ho on fire.” Tinsley is now coming for Sonja for saying she didn’t pay for the $5K gift card. I don’t think she did. I also don’t think she paid for the donation to Bethenny. I asked a rich person to donate to a charity recently but I did not ask for them to do it in my name. Tinsley does. Tinsley has way more money than me but not nearly as much as she tries to project. Scott on the other hand is rich as fuck and needs to RUN! A hurt dog howls Tinsley. Tinsley writes Sonja a check. Bethenny burns it. I recall now someone saying something about getting a lot of candles in there. #productionstoryline
Carole needs a cunt punt.
Sonja asks if she can pull Dorinda aside. Holy God. I saw Sonja’s spangly shirt. but she is wearing leggings and as my mother would say, “I can see the print of your twat!” She was old. his was before camel toe. Anyway it’s BAAAAAAAAAADDD. It’s beyond camel toe and I don’t get the whole ensemble and I think the entire cast should just REPENT for what they wore to this dinner. I have no idea what they were talking about. But I pretty much saw Sonja’s whole package.
OMG there is so much show left. I can’t.
Sonja tweeted Ramona the next day. Ramona shares the tweet with Dorinda. What a cunt Ramona/production is. Why is Ramona suddenly team Dorinda? My theory is that either Sonja or Ramona is always on the chopping block and somehow we always get them both. But they are now fighting for their position and Ramona seems to be winning because Sonja is not financially stable. Ramona is a sellout.
Carole and Tinsley meet for drinks to bash Sonja the next day and to set place cards for an allcast brunch. Ramona and Sonja are across the table from each other on the end. Ramona is not having it. She is going to move seats before the meal comes. Ramona is a cunt for this. She and Sonja have been a thing for ten seasons. Bethenny and Lu feel badly for Sonja. Did I mention Ramona is a cunt? It’s clear Ramona and Sonja have been told next season it is one or the other. It’s sad.
Lord. I can’t with this.
Um somehow the last 500 words fell out. as did the tags and a few other things. I have no idea how that happened, sorry
Sonja isn’t a malicious person. She’s not a smart person either. She runs her mouth for attention and makes up petty rumors. I get it. You can be annoyed by Sonja, but the way they’ve gone in on her is ugly. I don’t like this mean girl stuff. Team Bethenny/Lu/Sonja!!!
Can’t stand Carole or Tinsley.
Agree, Cho. Team Bethenny/ Lu/ Sonia. They are the ones who at least have a heart. And fabulous recap TT. Yes, Dorinda did seem to like Dennis A LOT. It was kind of shocking how open she was about it. She seemed to be wanting to gift him a set of DD cufflinks one day. And she even complimented his HIDEOUS sweater. Poor John. Why does he stick around? I would be so insulted by now that I would have walked away. I don’t get his entrancement. And Sonia has no money – so everyone except Bethenny and Lu are coming for her.
Ditto on everything you said! It’s strange how my perception of these women has changed. Absolutely loving Bethenny, I used to cringe at the sight of her. The LuAnn who was so pretentious early on (limo driver scene, Morocco etc.) is my fav. Dorinda is crossing into the mean zone for me. Her popularity has gone to her head.
But after a while, does intent even mean anything if you are the person she is spreading petty rumors about AND they touch on something you find painful? I think that the rumors Sonja spreads about Tinsley are definitely out of line – even if they are 100 percent true!
Spot on !! Great recap TT!! Poor Sonja – looking like a hot mess wearing Lu’s clothes!! Wow!! Carole and Tinsely r just gross!! I am loving B w Dennis too!! Great season so far!!
I can’t with this mental meltdown of Sonja. They need to just go ahead and remove her from the show. She isn’t stable and this isn’t fun at all. Why can’t we just go back to Rich Bitches Doung Rich Shit?
I agree JoJo. It’s not entertainment to watch someone who’s not playing with a full deck. As for Dorinda, her reactions were so over the top, I have to wonder if more than alcohol was involved.
Carole sniffing that the party didn’t focus enough on her was ridiculous.
Agreed. She is in poor mental health. She lives in a fantasy world and the things that come out of her mouth are just delusional. I just want to jump threw the TV and Bitch Slap her every time she opens her mouth. I am going to have to start taping it and watching it later so I can fast forward her scenes. Her taking the bus was classic. SONYA LITERALLY LOOKS AND ACTS LIKE A WALKING YARD SALE
All of demands she put towards Lou for her stay were off the charts crazy. I am really surprised Lou met all of them. How rude. Oh, and the vehicle she pulled up in to Lou’s house was a rental. The crazy lady can’t pay her bills and mooches off of others, no possible way she keeps a vehicle out there just for when she comes. Never saw it until this season. Car rental website for the Hampton’s has several of those vehicles on them!
Lu lived with Sonya. They were both pretty wild. Sonya tells everything she knows. I wonder if Lu is being extra kind to Sonya so that Sonya will hopefully not talk about her
I liked Carole so much it’s hard to watch her be so entitled. When she rolled her eyes about everyone being safe if they didn’t lock their doors, it showed a total ignorance for how many young children can’t play in their yards of sit on their porch without getting shot. She has white privilege and has no idea how it’s coming off. I really liked her mother and they were involved in the election. I’m just disappointed
Tinsley seems fine.
Corona may just now be going through the brief of losing her husband. Wonder how long John will stick around for this talk.
So right. She’s not fun to watch. She’s just sad. I hope they drop her from next season.
Thank you Tamara that was a great recap. I feel exactly the same way you do about all of it. Of course Bethany has always been my favorite but right now her and LU are the only ones I like. I cannot stand bully mean girls. as far as I’m concerned Dorinda has gone way too far. Carol is an absolute bitch and Tinsley is beyond a bitch. I don’t even know enough hateful and mean things to say about Ramona. How dare her turn her back on Sonya. All I can say is Karma is a b**** bitches. I think Sonya is headed for a breakdown and she is truly in pain. Dorinda has turned into a horrible person.
Brenda – Totally agree! 100%! Tamara great recap!!
I just have to say I was a little stunned. The clothes, the rages and wow. Not a lot of words for this one
My head is spinning after that episode. So much hostility and crazy going on.
I don’t know If Sonya is on meds that aren’t needed or not on meds that are needed but something is very wrong. I didn’t understand her dissatisfaction with her seat at Ramona’s dinner or at the brunch in the beginning. I know it was uncomfortable once Ramona moved. She’s always been a little strange but something is really messing her up this season. She should throat punch whoever told her those confessional eyebrows were working for her. Sonja was right, no one believes Ramona’s apologies.
Dorinda is also off the rails. Drugs, alcohol, I don’t know what but it’s not a good look. I just assume Dorinda is never sober anymore. She goes to bed drunk and has a bottle under her pillow. I’m glad Dorinda was so happy about her pot stirring. I didn’t find it necessary or nice. Tinsley’s a big girl and should handle her issues when and where she chooses to.
I bet Tinsley was silently thanking Bethenny when she burned that check. Is Scott comfortable with how fast Tinsley is moving on their relationship? Tinsley reeks desperation in this department.
I can’t believe how ungrateful Carole is over this dinner party. So what if some of Ramona’s friends are there. They all kindly congratulated Carole. I have family members that have run marathons. No one displayed marathon memorabilia or had a part for them. I sure hope we don’t have to hear about this marathon the entire season. You did it, good for you and congratulations now let’s move on.
I know Ramona is still crazy but her crazy is being overshadowed by everyone else’s crazy.
Did Luann really not know who Dennis was?
Thank you Bethenny for asking my burning question. What the hell were they all wearing?
The clothes I agree. I laughed out loud when Carole said people were jealous of her look..I may not have the money these woman have but I certain can look in a mirror and say No No Hell No!!!
Lu’s reaction to Dennis made me think she was fed those lines at the reunion by production. I felt her anxiety and embarrassment when she realized who he was, but in true Lu fashion, she handled it like a freaking champ.
My take is Lu knew it was Dennis. She asked him when they met and I think he replied 1988. She then asked how they met. That would mean, how they met in 1988 but before he could answer Tinsley and Carole jumped in saying, you know how they met referring to the married man comment Lu said at the reunion. Just because she made that comment doesn’t mean she know how they actually met! I thought she was being gracious and engaging before the mean girls tag teamed her. Maybe I’m wrong.
I came in late and didn’t see the beginning of the show so only saw everyone arriving at Ramona’s house. I figured the invitation said costume or tacky party by the way they were dressed! They actually picked those outfits out? Even Dennis came in a “tacky” sweater! That is hilarious!
And I meant to add, Dorinda’s talking head about the Luann/Dennis exchange was priceless! I laughed out loud before anything came out of her mouth! That is the Dorinda I love!
That was the highlight of the show. I was cracking up. The outfits were ridiculous but I loved to always shirt
Before I read the recap, or say anything further: Sonja had SCULPTRA under eyes\cheekbones. I have commented other seasons on Brandy, or other broad faced, wide funky looking women. Sonja puffed up with sculptra. Bad look!! I’ll re enter the convo about the hideous wardrobe later!
The audience poll on WWHL chose Carole’s outfit as the worst of the night.
Team Dorinda all the way. No matter how bad her edit this season, she’s HW gold as far as I’m concerned.
I was embarrassed for Carole and her entitlement. Her expectations for a marathon celebration was as bad as Aviva expecting a party for her arrival in a plane. Who does that?
Wow. Sounds horrific. I’m west coast and I’m opening wine to fortify myself.
It’s a trainwreak you will be horrified but unable to look away lol
The look on Luanns face when Bethenny called her on her crap with Dennis was beyond priceless.
Ramona got a taste of her own medicine when her charger was used as an ashtray for the flaming check and having one of her antique goblet used as a gong by Bethenny.
Bravo needs to ban Carole from chewing gum and eating on camera. Cows are more graceful chewing cud than Carol. Carol is beyond rude and uppity this year. She ran, she rambled about her dead husband again, Ramona threw a dinner and gave her bony ass a cake so she needs to get the eff over herself!
While I have empathy for Sonja, I can’t blame Ramona for not wanting to sit at the table with her. If someone told me that I was a POS in a text a few hours earlier, then I would be moving to the end of the table too. I thought that Ramona actually showed restraint by not announcing to the whole table what Sonja had done. Yes, we know that Ramona will forgive her, but the POS remark was pretty fresh and still stinging.
Tinsley…I just can’t.
Thanks for reminding me about the check burning on Ramona’s charger. When I saw Ramona start fluttering around I though, “At least no one ripped a light off the wall”.
I couldn’t watch when they were showing Ramona eating at the inn the next day. So gross!
I’ve always been Team Dorinda. now I’m mad cause it looks like she herself has really jumped off the rails. She even said she feels tense all the time. I don’t think she seems happy with John. Her I’ve have grown is a way to say John got her over the first few years of being widowed and as much as she was gushing on Dennis looks like she is ready to move on. Still doesn’t give her the right to cut Sonja up in little pieces.
Sonja does seem more verenable this season. Luann’s and Bethany both are being protective of her. That speaks volumes.
Tinsley ( spoiled entitled bitch) needs to sit down & shut up. she is trying to have a storyline and the best she can do is fight with Sonja. Carole (I have no life but let’s talk about my Marathon like I’ve saved the world) I wish they would drop Carole she never had anything worth filming ( i smoke pot and f**ked George Clooney once) except being Bethany’s friend and now she has turned her back on that boat. Carole will live to regret that jump.
Bethany is like Cher& cockroaches she ain’t never going to die or go away. In truth I’ve not always like how Bethany has behaved but I have always admired her. If you don’t cross her she seems to be a true friend and once you do she can walk away and never look back. Bethany grew up tough married crazy and still came out on top!!
Partway in, so I come here and the first thing I see is that Kim face, it made my day. Was happy that Dorinda wasn’t driving, and Lu’s house is gorgeous. Carole is making me rethink my hair, she looks so good.
I dont know. It seems easy for everyone ti love Sonja when she is a good time girl. Her story seems to be that she is cleaning up her act, which is what everyone wanted. Sonja is no longer the drunk of the group. The dunkest seems to be Dorinda and she is a mean drunk.
When you endure a loss or suffer grief it belings to you and everyone handles it differently. It doesn’t have to be a death. I am sorry but that crack about “my husband still lived me” was salt in the wound. If Ramona knew Sonja was telling the truth, it would seem that she should have said so. Ramona is not a good friend. Good for Sonja to finally recognize it.
Ramona says to apologize and be over it. That is the way she lives. Apologize, apologize. She never means it.
Carole is too in love with herself to see anyone else, like all the people running with her at he marathon. I do hope that and everyone had a party with a sit down dinner and cake in celebration. I hope they had memorabilia so they didnt suffer like poor Carole.
Something in my ipad gets I’s and u’s mixed up. If my word doesn’t make sense, change the vowel. 😫
Was being a bad guest, sorry you’re feeling poorly and here’s some merlot.
Mannnnnn, am I glad NY is back. Hands down my favorite franchise. The women are sooo entertaining and hilarious, and I love that they fight over petty bullshit and nothing dark and serious.
I think Ramona was pissed at Sonja for saying she blew the contractor. Sonja has a big fucking mouth and never knows when to shut it, and if my bestie was divulging my secrets, I’d be petty like Ramona and take the other girl’s side too. Still, Sonja is not playing with a full deck of cards, so Ramona could have cut her some slack. She always takes Dorinda’s side though. I gotta say, Ramona, Lu, and Bethenny are looking sooo good this season. Lu is always beautiful, but Ramona seems to be aging backwards. She looks so good in her talking heads. As for Carole and Tinsley, i’m bored to freaking tears. They bring nothing to the show, nothing. I’d keep Ramona and Sonja and get rid of those two.
Wow!! Bitches be crazy!! Didn’t Sonja claim Tonsley was shopping constantly and bringing home bags of clothes and shoes every day? Before Scott? And she doesn’t have money? C’mon, she has money. Plenty of it. Carole was wearing leather shorts which is even worse than a LBD. Even Luann acknowledged Sonja effing around so I guess that’s true, but it’s hard not to reference the happiest time of your life. Don’t know what’s up with Dorinda seems like the death is so fresh-I love her but don’t take your pain out on Sonja! That house reminds me of the beautiful abandoned homes we would find where I grew up in Fairfield County CT in the ’70’s. Many had coastal views and we would drink smoke listen to music and imagine living there. We appreciated their beautiful qualities and even tried to save/but one. Ah, youth!! Hope these ladies get their shit together I’m still traumatized by RHOA!!
Good point, re: Tinsley.
I actually like Carole this season.
& there is a big fucking difference between death and divorce. Ive been thru both. & Bethenny:if they were truly the love of your life, you’d beg & plead with the almighty to keep them alive, even if it meant you didn’t get to be part of their world.
Bethany ‘s boyfriend was NOT what I expected.
I’m praying for you. I’m only half way into this episode. Out having my last cigarette tonight. Wow! A lot going on, amazing recap, stopped reading at the point I stepped outside.
Who am I kidding? I’ll step back out to smoke again after this episode!
Thank you TT!
I couldn’t wait to get here to read your take on this TT. Sorry the last part fell off but so agree with what’s there, lol. I like this cast, but would choose Sonja over Ramona any day. In fact, I would love a Sonja Lu spin off living in Lu’s Hampton house in the off season.
This whole Sonja situation is giving me Kelly scary island flashbacks. I was not a Kelly fan but, at a certain point you have to stop picking on the weak unstable person. Sonja may very well be deserving of their ire but something is clearly wrong and it’s too much. Dorinda is being way over the top. Tinsley was so overly dramatic and what did Carol want? A freaking parade? Just yuck. Bethenny and her awesome new house for the win!
Ramona better check herself around Sonja. Yes, Sonja is conductor on the crazy train but they’ve been a team for so long Sonja knows where ALL the bodies are buried. Careful, Ramona.
Anyone could see the light bulb go off in Ramona’s head during her convo with Carole last episode. She hadn’t planned a party, it was an idea she had right then and there and threw something together last minute. Either way, Carole should have been grateful instead of complaining it wasn’t “marathon themed” enough.
My fave cast was always the RHOC but NYC is my new fave.
To be honest, last night’s episode really upset me. Probably because I’m going through a bad divorce. I totally get where Sonja is at. Divorce is not easy. Especially if you are not the one who initiates it. All the ladies kept acting like it’s just something you wake up and are over and have no right to have grief for. When your life takes a drastic turn like that, especially when you have kids, It’s hard to reconcile sometimes. And Dorinda’s acting like a damn martyr.
I guess I am taking this RHONY divorce/death argument differently than most. At least the start of it all at Lu’s. I don’t think Dorinda, Lu, and Ramona were doing a straight up comparison as much as “Sonja’s divorce” v. a spousal death. The consensus of the ladies seems to be Sonja’s behavior created her own circumstances. It would be like your ex (the one who walked out) whining for the next 10 years about how difficult the divorce was on him.
As Tamara writes, at Lu’s luncheon table Sonja never said what the other’s are saying she did.
We don’t know. That’s the thing. Sonja has been incredibly tight-lipped about it which is so unlike her. Anything that has been said has just been rumors that the ladies have heard far and wide. So what did actually happen? I suspect Sonia is under a NDA that has her locked down pretty tight.
Your likely 100% right on the NDA. That makes perfect sense. Whatever happen to cause the divorce we may never know, but the women believe Sonja’s behavior was a major contributor. In Dorinda’s original rant to Sonja she yells “don’t compare YOUR divorce to my husband’s death”.
I have said since my divorce that it’s like walking up to the gates of Hell, banging on the door and demanding to be let in. Then you are in hell. Do your best to do something kind for yourself each day until you can put this in the past. My best to you.
Luanne totally confirmed that “rumor” about Sonja running around on Mr. Morgan and she goes after Ramona for not lying for her? so confused.
Lu meant she heard Dorinda say that earlier in her kitchen.
Ramona had every right to be angry at Sonja. That contractor is married. Also Sonja has been MIA since spring and now in November knows all about Ramona’s life.
Dorinda needs help or needs liquid courage to film this show.
Carole and Tinsley are a perfect vapid match for each other.
I’ll say again, love Lu’s home. Beautiful time of year to be in the Hamptons. Foliage and no tourists.
To my bleary eyes, it’s Ramona (more than Sonja) whose appearance seems to have altered dramatically this season. She looks more like that sister of hers who appeared briefly in an episode or two – I think in the Hamptons a few years back. I’m idly cooking up a scenario in which Ramona has ordered her sister to step in and take over The Role of Ramona, so that she can go undercover for some Full On Turtle Time. Yes, I’m procrastinating and avoiding work, and yes, my brain IS addled by menopause. I love you all.
We love you too, DalaiMama!!
Thanks gapeachinsc!
You know, the one thing that I have always disliked about Dorinda is her need to slut shame Sonja. There are plenty of legitimate critiques that can be thrown at Sonja, but the fact that she enjoys a varied and casual sex life is just not one of them. And then to have Tinsley join in with her “close your legs” remark was an even newer low.
It’s appalling and hypocritical of these “liberal” women (I am speaking as a self-professed socialist 😉) to stoop to such lows, calling out women for having sex. If they truly think it’s a problem, shame on them for not addressing it privately instead of humiliating them in public. If not, they’re no better than mean girl tweens. It’s really a disgusting, unattractive look.
100% agree. One of my few life regrets is that I wasn’t more slutty in my younger days. I had too much fear of what others would think.
That said, have sex with a married man or a guy in a committed relationship and I’m going to talk shit about the ho. (yes, the guy too, but we’re discussing women here)
Its a bit sad to say it looks like it’s Sonja for the chopping block, she has no longer a storyline. She has paid the judgement, she has been divorced longer than married, she still has the town house. Her daughter doesn’t want to or isnt allowed to feature on the show. She wont be getting married to anyone soon. We all know there will never be a toaster oven. We have heard luxury international lifestyle brand too many times, plus she has done the fashion show to prove there was at least some fashion. She has stopped getting wasted and making an arse of herself which was fun to watch. She needs to stop living in the past as its boring the other ladies to tears and the viewers, yes you were married to a very rich husband you had a fantastic life. Its gone and she really needs to move forward. I am not sure if Sonja can save herself. Maybe it is time for some new housewives. Not sure whats in store this season with Carole as we have been shown her running the marathon, will it be the falling out with Bethenny for the rest. I liked Carole when she first came onto the scene she was a bit hippyish and unique. But now she is coming across like a boring bag lady with lots of cats.
Carole – ugh, Tinsley – who? Sonja needs to walk away from this show she is delusional and unstable, she needn’t be hanging out with Hyenas. The others can stay, Bethenny and Ramona are essentially the same people they’ve always shown themselves to be, I’ve got a lot of love for Lu now she’s not with the dickhead and Dorinda, my love, I see glimpses of your brilliance but you need to ditch John and this alcoholic bitterness.
Carol was the worst dressed
Lu and Ramona tied for 2nd worst dressed
All the outfits were hideous but Bethenny, Tinsley and Dorinda were the least offensive of the bunch.
I don’t think Carol is that bad this season. I think what she thinks is sarcastic humor, particularly about the marathon party is not coming across that way on camera
Both Dorinda and Sonja need serious counseling! Dorinda needs it for the loss of her husband and Sonja needs it for her loss of reality and lifestyle which is what she seems to mourn most.
Watching what appears to be the mental break of Sonja is very uncomfortable. I think what little money she had is near gone and now she’s angry. I want her to pull through but I think I’m wasting my hope.
When it comes to Tinsley, Sonja needs to pick a story and stick with it because last season when the ladies were in Vermont Sonja said TInsley shopped all day and brought home bags of clothes, now Sonja claims Scott pays for everything. Well Vermont was prior to Tinsley dating Scott so which one is it?
Tinsley was a bit over the top but she’s justified because she never once came for Sonja and all Sonja’s done is bad mouth her since last season when she brought on the show as a supposed friend.
Bethenny tried to defend Sonja but then realized quickly that she can’t defend crazy. Bethenny wasted no time pouncing on Lu for the Dennis comment which was hilarious.
Speaking of Dennis, he actually takes 1st place for worst dressed but I like him and hope we see more of him with Bethenny this season.
Agreed about Carol. The comments she made about her “major fashion moment” and the party not being on theme were definitely tongue-in-cheek.
Also, Luann is kind of the greatest. She is rarely mean, incredibly funny, and a really good friend to her friends. Loved seeing her give Sonja that supportive little pat on the back at the final brunch of the episode.
Carol gives Ramona and F- for the party?? What a pompous piece of work she is.. and WTH is Marathon Memorabilia ??? Tinsley is just annoying and irritating. I feel Sonja is grasping for a storyline hoping these outbursts will keep her relevant but also see that she is still grieving the loss of the lifestyle she had when she was married.
I just cannot take Carol anymore. She’s so nasty, boring , fake af & (as my kids say) a try hard! She’s so desperate to “be cool/young & hip” it’s total bs. She was 100% the worst dressed, yeah everyone’s jealous of your Halloween City $49.99 tattoo biker body stocking ! THEN , the boo’hoo this party isn’t good enough for me?? You ran a marathon, you didn’t cure world hunger! Goodbye, get her off the show!
Dorinda is mean, drunk or not! No longer a fan! She can go too.
Ramona is a ass & flip flopper! Goodbye.
Tinsley , you are not a child, grow up & act like a woman! The Eloise act isn’t cute. That Scott guy needs to RUN! Pink slip for her as well!
Bethenny may be a lot if things, but she’s a straight shooter and sticks up for the underdog! Loving her! She can stay…Luann to & of course Sonja (w/a sexy j) Yes, she talks to much, rambles & seems ro be a mess, But she hasn’t got a viscous bone in her body, she seens sad and lonely. I love her & I’m so thankful that Bethenny & LuAnne are seeing how awful everyone else is/ sticking up for her!
*sorry such a long rant, but this episode got me!
I’m with you, Iman. Carol ran the marathon. Other women ran the marathon, then came home to make dinner, help their kids with homework, and get ready for work the next day.
I love this comment SO much.
I think it’s particularly nasty. I’m pretty sure that Carole would love to have a husband and kids, for whom she could make dinner, help with homework, etc. But her husband DIED. I’m no fan of Carole’s attitude this season, but minimizing her marathon accomplishment because she’s not married with kids is a particularly low blow. Atrocious.
I think Ramona, Bethany, Lu & Sonja actually love each other. I think they clash but they care about each other. They have been through a lot together. Carole & Tinsley at this point are kind of outsiders. Dorinda fits in there but I cannot see that crew totally letting anyone including Dorinda slice and dice them like that. These chicks can fight nasty then get naked in a pool together and hug and laugh the next ten minutes. This is the BEST franchise out of any of them. I love RHNY. They are hilarious.
Was Tinsley touching her nose a lot in one of the scenes when she had her back to the camera..? Have to look again.
Since I’m new here and the rain is keeping me indoors I decided I would read some of the older TT blogs. I clicked on one titled “Real Housewives of New York: Old Habits & Hot Dresses” from August 4, 2015. The first picture on the blog shows Bethenny wearing a black shirt with a big old bow on it and the caption “The ugliness of Bethenny’s shirt is not fully depicted here.” That ugly shirt looks like the same shirt Tinsley was wearing in last nights episode during the dinner party. Tinsley’s shirt was white and Bethenny’s was black but they sure look like the same shirt to me.
Dirinda’s comments to Sonja about “ez pass on her holland tunnel , hostess with the mostess, ho” comments seem too personal. Remember when Dorinda said to Andy that she had a file on Sonja? I bet Sonja had a fling with one of Dorindas married friends. Too much anger from Dorinda. Lu sleeps around as much as Sonja and Dorinda never says anything to her. I think there is a back story in this .
I love when they film in the Hamptons and Bethanny’s project house is gorgeous!
Luann was Satan incarnate for years according to Bethenny. She called her every name in the book and thensome. For what I guess are strategic reasons B decides L is “ fun” this season.
But she can’t tolerate Carole being ok with Ramona? WTH ever. I do agree with B’s take on Dorinda bringing up her late husband just as much as Sonja dredges up her ex. But D does not get dragged nearly as much for it.
Probably because most of the women are afraid of going up against Dorinda.
Finally, Sonja is clearly dealing with many issues and it’s becoming quite cruel to watch her being abused. To me it’s strikingly similar to Kelly’s Scary Isle meltdown. Hopefully the HW’s will back off Sonja and be compassionate.
I think Dorinda needs to take a break from alcohol. It’s not a good look for her. Even last year you could tell that alcohol was winning and Dorinda was losing. How many times must you be seen on TV drunk out of your mind before you take a personal inventory, as AA calls it?
Tinsley acts like a 13 year old and dresses like a 90 year old woman. I never liked Carol from the get go. I like her even less now.
I think the remark comparing Sonja to Kelly and Scary Island is on the mark. Sonja could sell her townhouse, buy a nice apartment, and live well. But she can’t let the past go.
Love Bethenny. Oh, and wasn’t Lu close to black out drunk in that scene where she apologizes to Dennis? I thought so.
What I saw of Dennis, he seems a bit whimpy for Bethenny. Dorinda said “calm” but I think she’ll get bored of him. What guy dresses like that ? Horrible!
I’ve always liked Sonja. I feel sorry for her sometimes. I know she brings a lot of shit on herself but I think she means well. Sonja’s first season on the show I think she was at her finest. She handled Kelly well while on Scary Island and seemed really put together. I think she is insecure sometimes because she knows she isn’t as successful as the other ladies or as rich.
It’s also frustrating that everyone thinks their pain is worse than anyone else’s. I agreed with what Bethenny said. If someone you still love doesn’t want to be with you and has cut you off completely that sucks too. Each pain is very different but it shouldn’t be diminished either.
On a brighter note, I want Ramona’s arms. Whoever does Ramona and Kyle’s plastic surgery is fricking amazing. You can’t even tell they’ve had any. They look great!
Oh yeah. Carol was being facetious when she said everyone was jealous of her tattoo body suit, right?? Because…no.
And her Lederhosen! Yikes!
Whatever Ramona did off-season she needs to keep at it. She looks Fantastic.
The commentary surrounding Carole’s self proclaimed “major fashion moment” is a friendly reminder of how stupid people are.
Carole dressed like that strictly to get attention. She ran the marathon, ok now what? Zzzzzz
If Sonja really is detoxing from antidepressants, God bless her, it’s horrific! She stood by Ramona during her seasons of crazy rude crap and I completely understand her being hurt by being dismissed. F everyone of them! Carole is simply the worst. I kept waiting on her to fake sarcasm at the lack of marathon memorabilia (wtf does that even mean???) but I honestly think she was serious. Pretentiousness at its height. I’m w you TT, how am I liking Bethenny? Luanne seems so sedate after her breakup, maybe she’s on the antidepressants now??? Great recap! Bring on more nyc!
sonja always going to press w/negative stories abt castmates! all bad press seems to lead back to sonja. ramona said beginning of this season she never heard from or saw sonja all summer. sonja was nasty when she said what she did abt tinsely being supported and her boyfriend paying for the bg gift certificate!! i’m sure she was quite happy spending it. mayb sonja is on the chopping block – same old storyline – nothing!! no businesses, clothing line seems to be in mark(way)down bin!!! she was obnoxious with her demands to luanne and as far as her marriage — it’s way over — abt 12 plus years ago! move on! sell the townhouse that u can’t afford and move on!!! you are not a morgan!!! your daughter is.
Such a great show summary. Especially since It was EXACTLY what I thought!
I’ve been watching, “Killing Eve.” LOVE it. Character is a psychopath. This is harsh, but I get the same vibes from Dorinda as I get from this character. I’ve always thought of her as a genuine phony. That frozen smile while she doesn’t really listen or care. Sonja pulled Dorinda into the kitchen, and I caught that vibe again. “Ok, Sonja. Fine.” This woman does not give a crap. Stir the pot. Get a check to pay for the landscapers back home. Force a smile. Date John. Use John.
It’s not that Sonja doesn’t have a storyline. It’s that she IS the storyline. She wasn’t around for the summer because she was visiting colleges with her daughter. And if she was depressed, and taking meds, she may have felt the urge to withdraw. Happens. Ramona…did you reach out?
If you’re going to trade housewives, please for the love of this franchise, send Tinsley home. What is HER storyline? Reacting to Sonja. In fact, all are reacting to Sonja. She has brought the story. And what story does Ramona have? Or what has she ever had? I have never enjoyed her. And if Carole has always been SO far above them, please send her on her way.
Love Lu. I don’t think she realized Dennis was THAT guy. Her reaction was priceless.
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Oh Lu! That dinner conversation seriously had me laugh so hard. Awkward.
I think Carole wore her body stocking outfit to get attention, but I think she was joking when she said it was a major fashion moment.
I also think her comments about the lack of marathon memorabilia were just to make the point that Ramona was intending to have a dinner and just spur of the moment decided to say it was a party in honor of Carole. It was obvious that was what Ramona did, and I think Carole was just highlighting that. I think a lot of her comments in her talking heads were in response to questions from production–like what grade she would give the evening as a marathon theme party.
Ramona is so obviously jealous of Bethenny’s success as a businesswoman and now as a real estate investor. Ramona looks so petty every time she tries to brag about how successful she herself is.
Dorinda looked so mean in the way she was going after Sonja. And it was all in response to *LuAnn* starting to say about Sonja that she had been through a lot–and then Dorinda just went off. Sonja didn’t say, “Oh, poor me.” *LuAnn* said Sonja had been through a lot.
Tinsley looks mean this year too.
I feel sorry for Sonja even though I’ve been a critic of hers in the past.
Also, LuAnn complained that Carole had not sent her a text after her divorce, but given the state of their relationship, I think if Carole *had* sent a text, LuAnn might have said that Carole was just gloating or concern trolling.
I have two questions:
How did Ramona make her money? She had money before she even met Mario, right? But I don’t know what she did/sold. I know she sells Pinot Grigio now, but I think that’s new.
When they film their later talking heads, are they shown a particular clip that they then respond to? I can tell from the clothes that some of the talking heads are filmed right on the same day as the event/party/whatever. But others are obviously filmed much later, and I’m wondering if they get to see the clips right before they film those. And again based on clothes, it seems they sometimes film more than one “later” talking head. I’d love to hear how that whole process works.
That is so awesome. I had heard some of the story, but not all of it. Thanks for providing the details. Ramona’s story is inspiring! She could make beaucoup $ on the lecture circuit.
I was going to add dont discount Ramonas success. She is a hustler. Probably more than Lisa Rinna. Ramona also had a long marriage and a very smart balanced and most likely successful daughter. Ramona is hilarious and abrupt but she is one hell of a woman. She also stays pretty amazing looking for her age!!
I’m embarrassed watching Dorinda, she’s a drunk, sloppy mess, and it seems to be getting worse.
RHNY is still bringing it!
TT- I giggled out loud when you mentioned that Banjo let you know that it was 7pm. My dogs do the samething every night at 6pm for their dinner. They also remind us at 8pm on Friday and Saturday nights that it is Frosty Paws time. I understand how they know about their dinner time but how do they know the days of the week? Sorry my comment has nothing to do with RHONY. Thank you for amazing site!
Ye, Carol DOES need a cunt punt! When did she get so entitled and whiny? She seems to take on traits of the cast mate she leeches on to, and she has taken on Tinsley’s annoying traits and has kept Bethenny’s bitchiness. She’s awful and Dorinda is heading there as well. You nailed it with the sober lack of remorse being scary.
Long time reader, but just have to say ai look forward to reading these recaps almost as much as I enjoy watching the shows! Totally agree with this season. I loved Carole and Dorinda and watching them this season has been disappointing. I love Bethenny and her comments about everyone’s outfits was hysterical!
I feel kinda bad for Sonja too. There’s at least *something* about every housewife that I like. Healthy or not, I really miss the messy-drunk Ramona/Sonja gruesome twosome of yesteryear. I worry that if Sonja loses her apple, she’ll go full-Grey-Gardens, and will end up living under a bridge wearing a fur coat.
I can’t with Carole. Does she have a Housewives death wish? She seems to have lost all self-awareness. Who in the hell whines about how other people should throw them a party for any reason, whatsoever? And that bodystocking! My God. It looked like Ed Hardy projectile-vomited on her. “Major, major fashion moment?” Maybe on the “fashion don’t” pages. All she was missing was the black rectangle over her eyes.
Clarification: *almost* every housewife.
Ed Hardy, lol. That sums up Carole.
🙂 Can’t sleep? Me neither. I had a gnarly day of job interviews yesterday and I’m lying here talking to myself, answering all the questions again, the way I should have answered them. But didn’t, sadly. Torture.
I think that’s why I have such a soft spot for Sonja. I think she needs the money badly. I think the producers could get her to do just about anything because she needs it so badly.
The best part of Carole’s outfit was when her strap fell down and she didn’t even know it until John pointed it out. It’s a good think she had that black bra on or she would have been standing there talking with her tattooed boob hanging out.
I think Carole knows her time is up. That’s why she has been so criticical of the ladies. She wants to name call and get it out. Each interview with her involves a slap at someone. Everyone assumes Bethenny wanted her to stay before. Now?
I love Dennis. I’m happy for Bethany. When he said, “I was told to stay by this chair.” LOL.
Ramona: ugh what about my party tonight with these two fighting.
Dorinda: (to Ramoma after flipping out at someone’s brunch) sonja is such a narcissist.
Ramona: it’s fine I was ready to leave anyway.
Me: Oh my God. The freaking irony.