Y’all! We need to talk about Carole’s blog this week.
The only thing more annoying then friends psychoanalyzing you is a friend psychoanalyzing you on television. Okay, so let’s do this:
Psst! Hey smartypants, it’s THAN not then.
When the episode opens, I’m staying at a hotel because my best pal says her house is too full and because I’m the type of girl who likes to have a friend close 24/7 – virtually velcro’d to my side at all times. Ummm…rut-roh.
Everyone knows the real reason that Bethenny didn’t invite ANYONE to stay at her house is because her kid was there, and Dennis was there and she didn’t want her house to be the epicenter of filming. Everything is not about you, Carole.
But wait…fourteen minutes later, I’m a hard-to-reach friend, I don’t reply to texts, and my phone has a weird message that says it’s broken (it doesn’t). Three of my five friends are complaining that I didn’t give them enough affirmation when none of them showed up to support my marathon run and instead took one and a half seconds to write a text. I guess they expected a parade when all I did was say, Thank you! (written out). I’m curious, what would you have done?
Let’s pick a story and stick with it. Because if Carole is anything, it’s consistent. That reminds me, let’s play a game:
While running a marathon is a great accomplishment, it was run on Bethenny’s actual birthday. She was off having a good time with her real friends. Oh wait no she was not. She is in Puerto Rico knee-deep in mud getting food and water to people who had just been through a major natural disaster. Filming season was not really in full swing and most of the women were enjoying one of the last weekends before everyone yoked to production again for the new season. You have never seemed particularly close to anyone except Bethenny and Tinsley. There was no reason for anyone to return to town early for your marathon. It was kind of them to remember you were in it and send congratulatory texts.
Carole is the kind of person who_________.
Carole is the kind of person who celebrates her friends.
Carole is the kind of person who has very close female friendships.
Carole is the kind of person who that if her friend was running a marathon, she’d be at the finish line.
Carole is the kind of person who laughs easily and doesn’t take herself so seriously.
Carole is the kind of person who understands the difference between an opinion and the truth.
Carole is the kind of person who doesn’t shade the truth in order to prove a lie.
Carole is the kind of person who can take criticism if actual criticism is given.
Wow, if only we all thought this highly of ourselves…
Carole is the kind of person who will correct the record backed up with screenshots and evidence. Lol.
Carole is the kind of person who believes in being gracious, in spite of being confronted by a mob group posing as friends.
Gracious? Grace is exemplified by kindness, tact, compassion. That’s not what I get from you. You seem petty. You talk behind people’s backs. You’re petty. It’s sort of the opposite of gracious. You certainly do not exhibit grace under fire.
Carole is the kind of person who drives four hours in traffic to go to her friend’s birthday dinner, who brings three dozen roses, and doesn’t make a big deal when she doesn’t say thank you.
Carole is the kind of person who forgives friends easily for behaving rudely, for being self-centered, self-absorbed and generally bitchy, but maybe she should stop letting things roll off so easily.
I thought most of these qualities were the qualities that Bethenny and you had in common and why you were so close?
What Carole isn’t is a fair-weather friend, and while she may not have three dance tunes and a Pandora radio station (yet!), she genuinely cares for her close friends and is sad to see hidden jealousies and resentments pop up on television. Had I known then what is very clear to me now, this entire story would have ended much differently.
It seems like you have never been a friend to Luann. I sincerely doubt Luann is jealous of you. You really do seem to be suffering from delusions of grandeur.
Carol then listed an animal rescue website in case we’d like to donate in some sort of tacky “I support charity’s too! jab. Speaking of charity, Captain Lee is doing the Marine Industry Cares four-hour spin a thon on Friday. It’s a very good cause, tax-deductible. If any of you feel moved to contribute, and amount would be a big help. He doesn’t seem to have as much financial backing this year as he did last year. Click here to donate. Thanks.
P.S. Ramona isn’t tolerated by any of us. She is and has been a good friend who has her quirks like the rest of us. But that girl has more close girlfriends than any single girl I’ve ever known. They literally velcro themselves to her side! That’s because she knows what it means to be a good friend, regardless of her dynamic with Bethenny, who is not a friend to her.
Is it me or is this love of Ramona out of left field. She has always been Team Bethenny in the Ramona Bethenny wars. Now Ramona is the apple of her eye and Bethenny is a crap friend?
And sure, I guess Luann can be fun too, but she called me a pedophile, refers to my three-year relationship as a “boytoy,” and diminishes my accomplishments, because I don’t have three dance tunes on Pandora! But sure, B, she’s fun too. Nice way to have my back like I always had yours. Sad.
Oh there it is. Can someone remind me, after the whole war correspondent thing book thing and before the marathon, you know since the beginning of her being on the show.. what are her accomplishments again? All I’ve got is that she finally recovered her couch. Anyone?
And poor dumb Sonja not to know the difference between a bad divorce and a young death. I feel sorry for her except for the fact that she is #nastynice to my friends, and if I’m anything, it’s loyal. #rideordiehoney
Why are you measuring everyone’s suffering like it is a contest? Shouldn’t someone with you self-proclaimed grace have compassion for someone who has been through a nasty divorce, a nasty law suit, empty nest syndrome no life partner to share the load? Is she not allowed to talk about her pain without you or Dorinda screaming “MY HUSBAND DIED BITCH!”
I predict Carole and Tinsley are going to be in for a rough season. Especially after the rest of the girls rally around Luann. You are not necessary to this show Carole. You have now put yourself on an island with Tinsley and Dorinda is the only one who will occasionally send you smoke signals.
What do y’all think about Carole’s poison pen blog?
Without regard to the particulars, I really hate the whole “My pain is greater and more real and more deserving than your pain.” I can’t think of a single good reason to take that tack.
And nobody except Tinsley went to her marathon and she’s clearly pissed about that, yet here she is shitting on who LuAnn, Bethenny and Sonja are as people. Why would they come if you aren’t friends? Where was your dear friend, Ramona? At least she got texts, which is more than she offered LuAnn for her divorce.
The only real Women on the show is Luann.
Lu is just as delusional and obnoxious as the rest, IMHO.
Agree. How is pain comparable?
Because it is. Someone dying is. It is. A divorce is NOT a death.
A spouse who must mourn a marriage that was a mirage due to unknown infidelity; a child whose parent chooses to disappear and not support or contact them; a family that sees its entire way of life disappear when one parent takes off for another family and refuses to support the first family… some of those people might feel death would have been easier than knowing that parent/spouse hated them so much that wanted to wipe out all memory of them. Again, no way to reasonably say that one rates higher than the other.
*that he or she
My aunt telling my mother her pain is the same losing a child vs losing a nephew. No. No. No. Not the same. Death is not the same as someone ending a marriage either. It’s just not.
Obviously I’m not discussing the death of a child. That was made clear. We’re talking about marriages ending.
We’ll said. I went through it the exact way you wrote it. My children were four years old and a seven weeks old. I absolutely felt like the person I knew had died. He changed over night into someone that his own family did not recognize and never changed back. I have never had the trauma if watching my husband die. That said, what happened in my life was very much a death to my little family. I felt hollowed out and split in two. It took years to recover. An emotional death can be just as painful as the real thing.
I cried for months when I got divorced. Still can get choked up about it years later. It is very real pain, and while a death might be more final, it doesn’t mean more painful.
It is the death of a marriage and is painful, just not the same kind of pain
It feels worse than death to some people. Marriages end sometimes without 1 partner wanting it to end and they move on with someone else. They now have a life partner living the life you were promised. You see that, hear about that and the pain is unbearable and worsens as time goes on because your not living the life you dreamed about with your partner some one else is. When someone dies its heartbreaking and tragic but your partner died loving you and you loving them. Your not seeing your life come to fruition with some one else. You can live your life alone and experience the dreams and plans you had in their memory or find another person and make dreams with them. Your not hurting the person you made sacred vows with. No one takes into account how scarred you are because you were not enough for your partner. With death you never feel that way! It will always stick in the back of your mind why was i not enough or why wasnt i good enough or why did it all get thrown away or what/why did I do! With death your allowed to grieve the rest of your life and people understand but with divorce your not! Look at how they are acting and then look in their eyes….the hurt of divorce never goes away….some people just learn how to hide it better than others!
Sorry to hear from all of you about the pain and the lack of respect for it because it’s “not the proper form.” These are the things I was trying to say for people.
^^ This
Thank you for this
I’m gonna say something harsh here. At least Dorinda and Carole know that their husbands didn’t leave them because they WANTED to leave them. All one has to do is look at the wedding pictures of Carole and Anthony posted on Bravo to know that Anthony loved her with his entire being.
I look at one particular one, I think they are in a car and she is leaning towards him in her wedding dress. The love in their eyes takes my breath away. Knowing that he had just been told the cancer was back breaks my heart every time.
I have no doubt that Dorinda and Richard loved each other so so much. Nothing that has been said about him tells me otherwise.
But at least they know that they were loved so perfectly. Don’t get me wrong, Sonja is an insensitive ass – she still has hope to find her match, while I think Carole is dealing with some grief issues that her relationship with Adam held at bay for 3 years. (there has to be some grief there – that they “fit” except that I think it was mentioned 3 years ago that he did want kids. The prospect of kids is something that Carole admitted in her book (or maybe an interview) that she and Anthony had hoped for, but his cancer made that an impossibility as it made him sterile and it also returned before adoption or other options could be considered. It is why Luann’s comment to her a couple of season’s ago was so disgusting.
But Carole and Dorinda’s grief and tragedies doesn’t mean others don’t deserve sympathy and understanding, that they don’t feel great pain.
I DO think Bethenny gets that. She looks at why she is fortunate, and is paying it forward for SURE. I LOVE that she isn’t doing an “I told you so” with Luann and isn’t expecting an apology. At some point, she might mention to LuAnn that she was right… but not in a nasty way.
It just tells me that B was more sincere than we gave her credit when she sobbed to LuAnn that she was just trying to stop her from being hurt.
Having said all that… I hope B and C can mend fences.
agreed 100% about Luanne’s disgusting comment to Carole season’s back about not having kids. Between that and the pedophile comments, I can’t ever blame Carole for not giving a damn about her, I wouldn’t either!
I don’t really disagree with any of that, I hate it too. I’ve definitely had things happen to me that really broke me to my core that others might have found easier to get over or less of a big deal and it makes me feel stupid and weak to have my pain diminished. Carole certainly has perspective though. I know we all know what happened in Carole’s past so I won’t go in too much detail, but as sad as it all sounds on its face, her book is excruciatingly sad. Everytime I think of it, I get choked up. I don’t necessarily blame her, or someone like Dorinda, for not having a lot patience for Sonia at times. However, Carole has become so unlikeable and she could handle it all so differently but she chooses to be so petty and bitter and rude, it’s too bad because I really liked her before.
“to have my pain diminished” — Such an articulate way to express that. Thank you.
Dorinda is stuck in the anger phase of grief and she projects that rage and anger on anyone and everyone. She also uses booze to numb her pain and to stop the actual grieving process. There is a payoff for her to stay stuck and it’s called victimhood. She needs psychotherapy and rehab.
Man, Dorinda is scary when she’s angry. She needs more rational, insightful help and less of the substances before she does some real harm.
Obviously you have never lost a spouse that was your true love, as Dorinda has. I have. And I still have school age children. So I really think people need to think long and hard before they play armchair psychiatrist.
Sympathies and best wishes. However, Dori put her life on display and seems to have substance issues. She’s making B’s charges look credible and it’s worrisome.
Thank you Maxie. My response wasn’t directed to you but the commenter above you. I did not like the “stuck in victim hood “ comment. We all react to grief differently, and Dorinda seems to use alcohol. If I didn’t have kids at home I’d love to get sloppy drunk. It’s not an option for me. It was really the victim hood comment that got me. Believe me when you are in a loving, incredibly beautiful marriage and lose your spouse you don’t have the energy to play victim nor want to be looked upon as one. Some days it’s just hard enough putting one foot in front of the other. At least for me.
Children are God-given and help us to rise higher. I’m happy you have yours.
I don’t get this conversation. One’s tragedy does not lessen another’s.
Did she really write all that in 3rd person? That’s annoying if she did.
She is annoying, period! Have you seen this woman eat? She eats with her mouth open and it is sickening to me.
Apparently having $50 million dollars still will not give her manners OR make her get that mouth fixed.
Bitter. Carole is just an angry bitter person cloaking herself in righteousness. Keep stewing about it Carole. It keeps cooking…..
I can’t take this seriously. She is delusional and quite the opposite of someone who let’s things go. Her entire blog was a grudge-fest.
I think she’s sipped deeply of the Inflatable Carole Radziwill persona invented, and Inflatable Carole has taken over the psyche of Old Carole, who I used to like. I absolutely agree with your objection to Carole as self-declared Assessor of Suffering. She’s got a lot more in common with Luann than she’d like to think – and the kicker is her attachment to establishing herself as superior to the ex-Countess. I get that she’s published two books. I’ve published a number of books too and I know it isn’t easy. But at the end of the day, Carole doesn’t NEED to work, and doesn’t seem to have much of a work ethic. Her path to publishing is accelerated because she’s a Radziwill, and she’s writing about love and death, which sells. I’ve stepped away from my own work to become a ghostwriter, and it’s damn hard work, and I’m my family’s breadwinner. So Carole’s track record of casting herself as someone with a real job while others do nothing chaps my ass. It’s not gracious, it’s not compassionate, and it’s self-aggrandizing. Maybe if I didn’t have to spend so much time juggling the writing of other people’s books, I’d have four hours to spare bringing roses to a friend’s birthday. It’s all double standards with her. She shamed Lu for being culturally insensitive, but giggled last year when she called her own outfit “ghetto fabulous”. Beam her up, Scotty.
Well said.
You hit the nail on the head with saying she doesn’t have a strong work ethic. I was glad to see her train for the marathon because she finally had something to energize her! Otherwise she is low-energy and bland.
(I posted before that her ordering vanilla ice cream at a novelty Chinese ice cream shop was boring and posters responded that vanilla ice cream is good LOL! Missing the point that it’s enjoyable to experience but not to watch on tv, like rocking on a front porch. No effort in even asking the ice cream guy about the green tea flavor or other things that would have been interesting to the viewers to experience vicariously.)
The silliness of linking an animal charity on her blog reminds me that she wasn’t even an “animal person” until she started dating Adam. They got a cat and dog together. Otherwise she never showed any compassion to animals and didn’t even greet/pet/fuss over her friends pets when she visited them.
We didn’t see any evidence of charities she was passionate about or rescuing animals, etc.
Heck, she didn’t even put her energies into making a fabulous home! I know she can’t do a Lisa Vanderpump wonderland of the swans/moat/miniature ponies in her small apartment, but she could have put out fresh flowers, recovered her tacky sofa, put some warmth and energy into her abode.
I have no idea what she does with her time??? Try on clothes? Nap? Ramona is running a business and still dresses well and seems rested. (Bethenny is off the charts! but I know her wealth is much more than the others and she has a bigger staff.)
I find this comment unfair. Carole has displayed a work ethic prior to being paid six figures for going to dinners, and vacations.
I don’t like who she is as person. But she is over 50 and she’s fortunate to be able to retire and enjoy boy toys and do whatever she pleases.
It’s her sanctimonious attitude that annoys me. Go, have your boy toys live your life as it pleases you. Just don’t be such a cunt. At least on camera.
I agree with you, TT, except that I don’t think Carole has been left as well off as people think. She is a Radziwill, not a Kennedy. I don’t think Anthony left her a trust fund or really a lot of cash.
Could she probably afford to live off of it? Sure, if she moved to where the cost of living was much much cheaper. She’d probably still have to do some writing or some sort of work to suppliment that income.
Re’ her apartment. Wth? We watched her renovate and reveal the entire apartment! It looks amazing! It was in Architectural Digest! I love, love the leather studded walls in the entry hall. This is NYC not Beverly Hills or the suburbs. She has amazing taste, very stylish. On the show she was very specific in saying the impetus for the renovation was reupholstering her mother in laws sofa. It’s now a soft beautiful blue material.
I liked when they visited the ice cream store. I think it’s fun visiting Chinatown in different cities and it gave a little glimpse into the one in NYC. I wrote down the name of the store as I live in NJ and I’m moving to Hoboken, just across the river and 15 minutes away in the near future. Ice Cream! I’m told there are amazing reflexology places down there too. Gotta hit that!
DalaiMama, I’m really interested in your experience as a ghost writer. I guess the whole point to ghostwriting is that you aren’t at liberty to discuss it, how frustrating is that? Kudos to you and your hard work.
Haughty Princess Carol thinks she’s a know it all. Either her way or the high way when dealing with issues.. Still can’t get over her fiasco last season with Ramona: “I’m not going to invite you..you don’t care about Hillary…this is an important night for me..” gurl byeeee. Hope she gets the gets the axe (but doubt it since she’s close friends with Andy)
Unpopular Opinion?
Bethenny is using Puerto Rico’s tragedy for PR. Many famous and non famous millionaires have donated millions in personal funds to Pueto Rico without telling the world how great they are for giving their own money to Puerto Rico. I would like to know how much money Bethenny gave away in personal funds???Real honest philanthropists never do dirty self-promotion.
I hate Bethenny And Carol they both are horrible people… The end? I don’t like anyone on #RHONY ?
I hate when Realty TV personalities, politicians… go and film people who have lost everything for personal gain. I hate it!
It’s beyond just an unpopular opinion, it’s a shitty opinion based solely on not being able to acknowledge when someone you don’t like does something remarkable. How do you know about all these millionaires that donate in private? Are you their bookkeeper?
BETHENNY WAS RAISING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. You do not have a fundraiser in a closet. She not only contributed money, she went beyond writing checks and solicited donations from everyone she possibly could and received planes and cargo ships and warehouses of supplies and millions of dollars. Then she flew her ass down to an island with no running water or electricity and went HOME TO HOME passing out supplies. When she ran across people in critical need of medical care she got them transport to Miami where she worked with hospitals to get them treatment.
Where the fuck is this “dirty self promotion” you are referring too? Do you think the people she provided aid to were thinking “wow I wonder why this woman from NYC is here helping us? Is she pure of heart? Does she pass Mary’s test of character?” NOPE! In the FEW videos we saw they were crying and hugging her and THANKING HER FOR BEING THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAD COME TO HELP THEM.
So sit your as down and quite trying to decide who has pure enough intentions to be charitable to those in need. What the fuck have you done for Puerto Rico or anyone else?
What is with the people in comments here lately? There are plenty of things you can judge about Bethenny without making such a stupid fucked up accusation about the most POSITIVE thing she has done recently.
Thank you for that response, Tamara. Bethenny worked, and is still working so hard on helping our citizens in Puerto Rico. She could easily have just sat at her desk collecting money and sending it off to some other charity. She proved what a caring person she is by the way she’s handled this. I’ve always liked Carole, but my opinion of her has really gone downhill so far this season.
Even if she had the absolute worst intentions, wanting to profit off a tradegy to heighten her public perception — does it really matter if at the end of the day she helped ease the suffering of thousands of people? And undoubtedly saved lives? I’ve never done anything like that, and neither have you. So rather she did it for the props or not, she deserves them.
Bethenny literally has done more for PR than our own government – solely because Trump LITERALLY does not have the capabilities to understand that PR IS part of America.
Oh, come on. Are you reading Trolling for Dummies? It doesn’t take a Nobel laureate to understand that best way to generate PR in NYC is to throw a swanky function in NYC that everyone can get dolled up to attend, and feel good about it because it was for charity. (Which is fine.) That’s not what this is. B put 100% of her money and the donations into buying the supplies and chartering the planes. And she distributed them personally. Not for a quick photo op, but day after day after day. By your logic there are no authentically good deeds in the world, and only saints can be charitable, evidently because you find it impossible to imagine there is such a thing as a genuinely altruistic spirit in an imperfect person. I’m sure that makes it very convenient for anyone who prefers not to condescend and donate, or God forbid, roll up their sleeves and pitch in.
(My response was for D)
D is a SHIT PERSON.
i agree. this entire group needs to look up the definition of “white savior complex”. tamara i’m disappointed that your head is up bethany’s ass about PR. i am glad that she contributed and showed up but this doesn’t admonish her from being a total cunt to everyone on this show.
1) I don’t think you know what admonish means.
2) I’ll never understand why these bitches have a problem with B every season. Love or hate her, she’s been the same person since season 1. ?
I wish “B-strong” was not in her tag line. Diminishes her charitable work, amazing as it has been.
Are you kidding about the B-Strong? BETHENNY of all people knows that this show can be used as a vehicle for promotion. She’s not using it for Skinny Girl anymore, but for some serious ass charity work. B-Strong is actually part of a bigger charitable organization, so the $ goes that much further.
THANK YOU, TT! How the F was Bethenny supposed to raise money, goods and transport if she didn’t publicize the problems? And what was a better way to do it?
I agree with the person who said Carole seems like a lazy person. I didn’t see her travel to PR or anywhere else to help. Instead, she devoted all her time to a self-centered goal of running a marathon. (Don’t get me wrong, it’s an admirable feat, but one that she did for herself alone, to somehow make herself feel good.) She is self-absorbed. And while she criticizes others for “living in the past,” her books are both dependent on her husband’s death so many years ago, and the effects it’s had on her life. Not a huge difference IMHO. At least not different enough to criticize others’ pain.
I’ve never thought Carole was special. Sorry. And for a writer, her grammar stinks. I am sure she read and re-read her blog before posting it.
LAZY is right! Last season she didn’t even want to go to lunch in Chinatown!!! One of the amazing things about New York is being able to experience different cultures. She complained about the drive.
She was so negative and like “We could have eaten near my apartment.” Not wanting to try any of the different foods. Negative Nelly and NOT fun to watch.
Sonja or Ramona would have made that lunch fun! Interacting with the waiter; making statements about the dishes (even if some were misheard or just funny); telling some story about a previous adventure in Chinatown; adding joy.
Carole lives in the Village/West Village. Chinatown is literally right across town. Hardly a shlep.
Marc Cuban
Luis Fonsi
Cheyanne
Gloria and Emilio Estefan
Marc Anthony
Jennifer Lopez among others. I don’t have time to write all the names. They have given time AND millions of dollars without humiliating and filming people in need for self promotion and ridiculous tv show.
Sometimes it is necessary to draw attention to something in order to right a wrong.
You must have misconstrued my comment or hit your head, one of both.
p.s. You stink worse than Carole*s couch. And that was supposed to be an r.
And how do you know they donated? Hmmm you must’ve seen it in the press somewhere. Kudos to everyone who donated their money, time or both.
D doesn’t even get any Windex
I’m sorry, what is your point? I missed it. Is your real name on that list so you feel as a contributor you should instruct others how to make a contribution? None of these names could have been in the news. Why, you must know them personally. Did they mention it at dinner?
Be quiet and sit still.
No matter what Bethenny’s characterstics are, this one thing she has done. She went to PR and was feet on the ground distributing the millions she raised. That is generosity that takes guts to accomplish. Give her her due. If PR comes with it, who cares. She deserves to be recognized for this.
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Perfect response, TT! Any recognition Bethenny received for her charitable work was well-deserved, but I do not for a second believe that’s why she did any of it. She did it because it needed to be done, & we as a country failed our fellow citizens. Period.
As a person who has received help in the past I want to say that I don’t really care why the helpers have wanted to help me. In times of desperation it’s really irrelevant. It’s enough to know that they do.
I would imagine being in Pierto Rico and having someone show up to help felt nice. I doubt the survivors cared about why she was helping but were probably just grateful
Agreed. I can’t imagine anyone saying, “sorry, you’re a famewhore and I’ll let my children starve before I take help from you!”
Thank you Tamara. Well said. I love Bethany, no matter what her faults are. I couldn’t give two hoots for Carole and her holier than though attitude.
Well said!
Amen to that!! Bethenny makes that show and it was boring without her. Don’t be friends with her then Carole but you know the pure hell she went through with Jason and she still persisted and helped thousands have water, food etc. AND kept her business thriving and her daughter happy. You live with a cat and dog. Get serious whiner.
Well said!
Tens across the board!!
THANK YOU. Who wants to talk trash about someone who is sacrificing of their money, their time and their connections to help people who are so desperately in need???? If she did it buck naked in red stilletos covered with skinny girl tats I do not care. That she did all that good, that’s the important part. I don’t understand anyone sneering at Bethenny’s substantial efforts here. It was and still is so desperately needed. Reality TV stars and rap singers have done more there than our own government has. Thank God for anyone who is helping.
Thank you Tamara. I just wanted to add that she did great work in Mexico too after the earthquake. She has gone above and beyond, and has more than demonstrated her sincerity and commitment not just with her money, but also her time and empathy to those affected.
Having worked in the not-for-profit field (mostly health related like Diabetes and Cancer, but also Untied Way, Red Cross and the Salvation Army.I haven’t witnessed a lot of wealthy people who donate time or money to a good cause for simply altruistic reasons. Instead they do it to get good PR for their companies, or for themselves or, if they are in the public eye to get close to others who have money or fame like themselves.
Sad but true in the ten years I worked in the field. I think right or wrong Bethenny came along and believed she could manage the fundraising better without waiting and going through all the normal channels including the Red Cross and I don’t honestly care if she did so to gain fame for her company like so many others do when they go on TV to take phone bank calls, for instance.I only care that she was able to get the ball rolling when others couldn’t and get the word out that not enough was being done for the people in the Houston flood and in Puerto Rico.
Bethany is the type of person that likes to get s#!t done. She saw nothing was happening and went and got it done. Love that about her
@Mary: Okay, I’ll play. I do not know or care if Bethenny personally wrote out a check or not, but she did manage to rally troops in the form of friends writing checks. She personally organized and oversaw the effort to get much needed supplies to an area that had been destroyed. I have not seen any horn tooting by her. She has a larger than life personality, yet all through her involvement with Puerto Rico, she has been passionate, but humble.
Even if she did not write out a check, you cannot put a price on her contribution of time, supplies, etc. That said, I would be willing to guess that she did all of that AND wrote out a big check.
Action speaks louder than words. Then there’s Carole who doesn’t know the difference.
Thx!
I was taught, too, that one should not call attention to one’s own good deeds. However, celebrities are different. One of the most valuable things they have to give is their celebrity itself, so they’re in a unique position to be able to call a great deal of public attention to a cause.
The philanthropists that don’t tell the world how great they are are the ones that don’t get their hands dirty. They write a check to other people. It would have been impossible for Bethenny to achieve what she did without putting herself out there. The PR government held up, confiscated, and skimmed off millions of aid. Bethenny provided a lot of aid directly to the PR people. Donators knew this and gave B money because she showed what she was doing with their money, because she was “hands on”.
I agree the charity world is full of big egos and self promotion.
Whether she did it from the goodness of her heart or for good PR she helped A LOT of people through her efforts and wasn’t afraid to schlep herself over there and get her hands dirty to make sure that help was recieved. I’m in awe of how much she accomplished and don’t think she deserves attacking for it.
The fact you can list off these so-called altruistic celebrities means that they have also publicized their efforts in some fashion. Just saying ?
Ditto, GLH, well said.
Who of us doesn’t have mixed-motives? It’s so easy for me to sit here in the comfort of my home and cast aspersions on someone’s intentions, and sadly I do it all the time for sport. Meanwhile people famous and not famous are out there acting in response to genuine need.
At the end of the day, Bethenny is using her endless energy and resources and she’s making a difference. Me, not so much.
So do I
I, too, was annoyed at how she seemed not just to speak humbly about her efforts but to also pat herself on the back and talk about how she was the only one there. I saw no humilty. I saw pride and ego.
I can’t speak to the “ego” in your comment Ss, doesn’t seem to even fit in the conversation..
“Pride?” Yes, I can speak to that. She should be proud. I didn’t see anything in her talking heads or her instagram about or implied pride. She stated facts that she took and ran with then relayed to us. Bethenny has no reason to not be proud of her ongoing work in Puerto Rico. I don’t think she’s displayed anything but concern, the ability to raise money then actually boots on the ground help out like every other relief worker. I cannot understand for the life of me why anyone sitting on their butt, on the couch, in bed or in the fricking car complaining that Bethenny is doing any of her relief work for herself. Sad.
How interesting – “I don’t like anyone on #RHONY”, yet you comment on a blog post on a blog post on RHONY. How sad!
Does it really matter why she’s doing? She is saving lives. Real people that are in desperate need. What she has done for the people of PR is off the charts incredible. PRs “reality “ is real. They are in desperate need, beyond desperate it’s a life altering crisis and say what you want about B, all we know about her is from a frivolous reality show. But she saw true life REALITY and stepped up to the plate. She is saving human beings life’s and giving them hope along with other people know or unknown. Shouldn’t that be what really matters??????
I really don’t like Bethenny but I can step aside from my personal feelings and view her work in Puerto Rico (as well as Texas) objectively. Her efforts have been nothing short of amazing. She has saved lives and has gone to areas the government, in it’s wisdom, has deemed too difficult to reach and as a result, has ignored. I read a lot of “newspapers” and I don’t see a lot of photo ops. What she posts on her on SM is none of my business. Frankly, I’ve seen a lot more pic’s of her in her bikini in Miami or The Hamptons than Puerto Rico
I don’t think her motivation is any of my business and frankly I don’t care. Why is that even a question?? Do you ask your friend’s motivation when they give a check to charity? We never ask MEN what their motivation is yet you assume all kinds of nefarious things from her.
I hear a whole lot of projection in your comment and it says a lot more about how you feel about your own motivations than hers.
It’s not like she was running around Puerto Rico handing out Skinnygirl products taking advantage of photo-ops with her pr team standing around. Bethanny deserves every amount of recognition she has received. And I personally don’t think she received half the credit she deserved.
I used to be really really really in Team Carole but she doesn’t seem like a good fit in this show any longer.That said, I’m not really looking forward to the eventual shitstorm that is coming her way.
Carole is clueless and Napoleanonic to boot. Touche. Once again purple ink cuts through bullshit.
Fantastic TT.
Hope she reads, so she’ll understand exactly how
she is, or at least how she isn’t.
(I think Bethenny perhaps got a good feel of the superior Carole. Carole does seem to walk around in another world, but faults those who do not see it, lol)
I added a tweet from Carole that someone just sent me that is apparently no longer available. It’s sounds like Carole is paying in installments. If it is such an important cause why was she not tweeting about it? Why was she talking about some animal rescue instead while people had no water or power?
Didn’t Aviva say Carole had a ghostwriter fir her book? After reading the blog I’m wondering if Aviva was right.
I thought the same. Where are Carole’s writing skills?
She doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
lol
Carole can write. Aviva was being ridiculous. Carole hasn’t written lately.
She did NOT have a ghostwriter. She has a background as a writer. Aviva is a thirsty nasty cunt who also claimed Harper Lee didn’t write to Kill a Mockingbird. Please. Aviva had no background in writing and has asked Carole for help in securing a ghostwriter than she was pissed when Carole mentioned it on the show. Carole wrote the book. It’s sad that something Avia said out of pure jealously and maliciousness has become nasty gossip that people are still talking about out of pure ignorance. Carole devoted years of her life writing a very sad, touching book about loosing her husband and two closest friends within a year of each other.
Agree. Carole’s husband died two weeks after JFK, Jr. and his wife. What a blow.
Bethenny said Tinsley was the first to donate, so…
Carole is the kind of person who ______
___could benefit from listening to what people say about her, and identifying reasons why they say those things. Some very honest self-evaluation is in order. Shouldn’t be that hard – she’s got hours of video of her own behavior. Nobody’s perfect; we can all improve. The smartest person in the room knows that he/she isn’t really the smartest person in the room.
Given a choice, I’d go by what my closest friends say about me, those that have known me for ten, fifteen plus years as opposed to women I work with on a Reality Show for a few years, a few months each other, who are paid to stir up drama. NONE of these women take very seriously the, “constructive criticism” they receive from each other. Why should she? Has Bethenny EVER listened to constructive criticism? Please! She’s the most defensive of all!! Ramona? LuAnn? Nada. But Carole should take it seriously. Um, no. I get the blog is obnoxious, she’s far from perfect but looking at her career over the totality of the show, she’s been among the least offensive women and the least inclined to insight drama and strike out maliciously at other people.
I didn’t say she should take it seriously. I said she should listen to it and try and figure out why it was said, and figure out if there’s any truth to it. This is what anyone should do when receiving criticism. It’s about not being defensive and reflecting upon oneself and determining if there’s room for improvement.
Love this post!!!! I always go back and forth with liking and disliking Carole. I always just loved her clothes! Anyway, I thought the marathon intercounting with her old best friend Heather was a little cold. What is your thought TT?
I like Carol. She does have 3 Emmys and a Peabody Award for producing news segments with Peter Jennings.
Yes, that is a great accomplishment. It was also 20 years ago.
And didn’t she get the Emmys as part of a group? They weren’t awarded solely to her.
Wow.
So what. She still was awarded them. I think she’s tired of all these women.
Bethenny was able to get supplies into parts of PR that other relief agencies hadn’t touched yet. Kudos to her. She could of wrote a fat check as a tax deduction and called it a day. What a good example and role model for Brynn.
So clearly it doesn’t count anymore. I had my son 14 years ago so I guess that’s not a big deal either. Darn. What kind of accomplishments count? What is your cut off? Is it five years, eight years? Do her two books count or do they miss the cut off too? Is this an arbitrary number or something objective that’s written down somewhere that I’ve missed?
What has Ramona done? LuAnn? Dorinda? Sonja or any of the other women who’ve been on and off the show for years-I could go into all the other cities as well. I’d say 3 Emmy’s and Peabody, no matter how long ago are a great achievement and it’s easy to sit back anonymously and knock someone else. No offense but what are your great accomplishments?
WTF!
6 years, 4 months,13 days, 2 hours, 42 minutes, and 15 seconds. That’s long enough.
As to critical anonymous posting …… Hi, Pot!
Carol has never been a good fit for this show. Her story line has been carried by her friendships first with Heather, then Bethany and now Tinsley. I remember the season that started after Luanne called her a pedophile Bethany, with no dog in the fight went in hard on Lou and continued to do so out of loyalty to Carole. Bethany’s show of compassion towards Luanne because of her humiliating divorce is seen as treason by Carole who cannot get past Luanne’s name calling. I don’t blame Carole for not getting over that but it’s unfair of her to not understand how Bethany can be sympathetic towards Luanne and that has nothing to do with their friendship. And Carole “ride or die”. Please see that you are just as guilty of appropriating black culture as Luanne.
I totally agree, Carole has had no story line! She is as boring as watching paint dry!! There are tons of crazy entertaining housewives all over Manhattan. For the love of God, please replace her!
Please GO FUCK YOURSELF about cultural appropriation.
THE WHOLE POINT OF AMERICA is to be a melting pot. We have turned into a very combative salad.
No one owns vocbulary
Exactly TT – no one owns words. I may say “groovy” even though I am not a hippy.
Can I still get angry when a white person uses the word “woke”? Drives me insane! Lol.
Why is it so difficult for people to make the distinction between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation.
Tell us how you really feel. Perhaps without the vulgarity.
Cocktail hour came early today.
I find Premarin works better than alcohol, & it’s cheaper. Truth. Check it out in your nearest neurobiology textbook.
Guessing that “D” stands for, Douche.
I’m guessing the “D” stands for Carole. As in Radziwill.
Carole is such a pretentious twat. And, sorry not sorry, I think she really ran the marathon to get Adam’s attention as he also ran it. He was also hanging around a girl friend a lot at that time who was also a vegan and chef.
That’s a good theory about the marathon. Major kudos to her for doing it, but it was completely out of left field and very close to the race. Good thing she had nothing but time on her hands to train.
Whoa! You are on to something! It was odd that she had never exercised a day in her life and decides to run a marathon. That’s a huge jump! Why not start by joining a running group? Or a pilates class?
It’s very similar to how she did not have pets when she met Adam, but during her time with him they got a cat and a dog and now she’s linking to an animal charity.
Suddenly in her 40’s she becomes a pet lover and a marathon runner.
It’s like she’s 12 years old and trying to figure out who she wants to be so is copying her boyfriend’s passions and trying them on. She co-wrote a cookbook with him for crying out loud! Yet a few seasons ago she had a contractor in to change her kitchen into an office, so we know she had no interest in cooking.
i thought she was in her 50’s?
Well, that escalated quickly! Don’t like TT’s blog? Don’t read it.
The D stands for debauched oneself in Macy’,s window during the Thanksgiving parade for all the world to see.
My thoughts exactly Toni
How much money do you think Bethenny got from her fans just because she publicized what she was doing. Would those fans have donated the same amount to another charity that didn’t keep 78 cents from every dollar donated?
I’ve been back and forth about Carole. Sometimes I like her and sometimes I don’t. I know that she was a friend of Andy Cohen prior to the housewives and I’ve often wondered if she keeps coming back because of that friendship. Regardess, after watching Carole for several seasons, I still don’t know who Carole is or what she does other than hang out with the other “housewives”.
Did anyone watch Bethenny & Fredrik? What was the timing of the end of shooting of that show and the beginning of shooting for RHONYC? Wasn’t Carole the only one that Bethenny brought to see the project she and Fredrik were working on.
I think B iis doing a great job with her charity.
I just find her personally hard to like atm. She’s got the biggest set of double standards & bravo never calls her out with flashbacks like they do others.
I thought caroles blog was hilarious and for once I liked her – she’s not playing the condescending wall flower she always has, now she’s playing the condescending, mud theowing housewife. She’s becoming better tv. Just need her & Tins to lay off Lu and I could get on board.
While not a die hard fan of Carole’s, I did originally appreciate her intellect and loyalty to certain cast members in the past. That being said, she is not coming off very well season in her lack of compassion for Luann or her feeling of superiority above the others.
I am very interested to see where her falling out with B came from. B is typically a straight shooter and good judge of character so how did things go from so hot to cold.
C’mon D as in dickhead clap back as you seem to have so much to say. Enlighten us.
I actually liked Carol’s blog and don’t see why Sonja and Lu made a big deal out of a thank you. What was she supposed to do, write a 5 page essay?! LOL
She simply said Bethenny’s house was full and it was. She didn’t tell us why, Ramona is the one who mentioned Dennis.
Sonja has been talking about her (self inflicted) pain for seasons now which is fine. What’s not fine is how she lashes out at the women via the press and making Tinsley her main punching bag. Heather and then Bethenny tried to help Sonja but she dismissed them both because she wants a short cut like Tipsy Girl. It seems money is why Sonja’s resents Tinsley.
I like Dorinda but I don’t like her verbal beat downs of Sonja. Yes Sonja is annoying but the verbal abuse is too much. They both need help, stat.
Lu and Carol always had an underlying issues beginning with the dueling titles of Princess vs Countess. They both have their moments of arrogance which is why I’m not surprised when they don’t get along.
Tinsley’s dinner with Luann had the same tone Luann had with Tinsley in Vermont last season.
These women have amnesia of their own behavior yet are quick to call each other mean when the truth is spoken to them.
Ramona is actually rational so far this season, let’s hope it lasts.
I agree that both Carole and lu are arrogant…in my opinion they share a lot of similarities. Except lu is slightly more likeable.
It was funny when carole made the comment to Bethany and Tinsley that Luann is a dark cloud who sits in the corner with an ominous stare….meanwhile that’s her! She never says anything on the show ..sits in the corner…but reveals all her mean thoughts in her confessionals…..lets all the snark out. Way to project your own issues.
Luann didn’t make a big deal about it. Sonja did. Luann just joked that at least she got the complete spelling of “thanks” instead of just “thx” like Sonja.
Sonja had a great idea with the toaster oven! I don’t know why she didn’t market it. She had the idea, a great public relations gimmick/persona “I have cooked meals for prime ministers in a toaster oven,” and even an awesome photo shoot!
She could have acquired a ton of generic toaster ovens where the company puts your own brand on it, boxed them and had them in department stores. They would have been a great Christmas gift, Mother’s Day, etc.
Other appliances already have brands that are known for that item, but not toaster ovens, so there wouldn’t have been resistance to a Sonja Toaster Oven. Pod coffeemakers= Kuerig; juicers=Ninja; food processor=Cuisinart. But toaster ovens was/is an untapped area.
All I can think of is that she was waiting for her lawsuit over the movie production company to be finished. But now, what’s the hold-up with marketing the oven?
The hold up is Sonja. She’s her own worst enemy because she refuses to have discipline and work ethic. She wants the quick and easy short cut which is why she was sued in the movie production company farce. She’s still trying to use her ex-husband’s name, it’s very sad to watch.
Sonja used to be my favorite during her first couple of seasons on this show but I feel that she and Dorinda need professional help but for different reasons.
I LOVE purple pen!!! I don’t always like Bethany’s attitude but she is a hardworking bitch!! There is just credit in anything Carole says. She is quite annoying. Great job on the marathon bad job on your blog, that reflects you on so proud “writing career.” I love the NYHW. Why cant she just shut up and let things go?
*there is just NO credit in anything Carole says.
I was PRAYING that you purpled penned her blog. She is the worst. I’ve been anti-Carole from the beginning, even when she was against Aviva and that is quite the feat.
She’s such a hypocrite. Her hard-on for Lu is perplexing to me. Her also talking about how awesome Ramona is? Wow she’s desperate for allies, but so is Ramona.
Jason?
I bet you are right!, “D” (douchebag) most likely is Jason!
??????? I love to read different opinions. English is my second language enyway?I’m always butchering the English language? My beef. Esa Bethenny humilló y utilizó a mi gente para beneficio propio. People like Jennifer Lopez and Ricky Martin who truly love their people didn’t make a mockery of the tragedy.
Anyway?
En serio, Como se benefician de la gente, dando mas de lo que
Callate la boca
??? What? You get an A for effort?
So do you, you get an A, she gets an A we all get an a
Castellano
Tamara, this may be confidential intellectual property, but I have to ask: Is the purple pen a Montblanc or a Sharpie?? As popular as your purple pen posts are, you could get a lucrative endorsement deal out of it! “Tamara Tattles Purple Pen – Presented by Sharpie” ???
I’ve already mentioned something similar to TT. Maybe I’ll go back to pestering her about my “big” idea .
I was just going to add at the end of the comments, “Thank you for the purple pen.” But I agree with these comments on ads or endorsements. Think on that, Tamara.
I wish you all good and love the purple pen.
I find it hysterical that Carole calls Luanne “arrogant and pretentious” in the words of my 4th grade frenemy, takes one to know one.
Carole is turning herself into a star. No more bedraggled hair, wearing fashion instead of country while in the Hamptons, perching ever higher on her throne. Perhaps she finds it crowded with Bethenny up there with her. I don’t care for either of them but have to admit that in terms if storylines Bethenny always has something going on, Carole does not.
I’m thinking the D stands for Dorinda. Stop drinking and shouting at people on the internet lady! ? Joke joke.
I find Carole’s “Holier than thou” attitude very off-putting. I actually enjoyed her in her first season-then something changed in her whole attitude. And, referring to herself in the third person was just weird and annoying. While I think running a marathon is an impressive accomplishment(especially since I couldn’t run to the mailbox!), what I don’t understand is her expecting to be greeted by everyone she knew at the finish, and then using whether someone showed up or not as a way to measure their friendship….and, then want a party in your honor. I thought those things were about personal inner goals and accomplishments.
I’ve always liked Bethenny, even when she’s bitchy.
Yes, what happened to the sardonic and wry Carole of old? She was likeable and laid back.
That said, I’m buying ringside seats for the Carole vs Bethenny fall-out. The other HWs are reluctant to square up to B in case she verbally eviscerates them. This should be interesting……
I know I’m in the minority here, but I actually like Carole. I’ve always found Luann’s condescending attitude grating, that hasn’t changed since day one. I also pretty much have always liked Bethenny and think her efforts for Puerto Rico have been phenomenal.
Inane nothing but admiration and accolades for what Bethenny did (still does?) in PR. But one point I want to make vis a vis Carole staying/not staying with her in the Hampton’s: isn’t Bethenny the one who made the comment in her talking head that Carole chose to stay in a hotel. Not that she no longer had room at her house. Seemed to me like she was throwing some unfair shade at Carole for that.
Other than that, I’m guessing their friendship/break up is complicated and painful with hurt feelings on both sides.
I HAVE nothing but….
So in the episode Carol talks quite a bit about narcissism regarding Lu. Now this blog of hers where she refers to herself in the 3rd person; isn’t that the definition of narcissism? Wasn’t her entire blog the definition of narcissism? There’s an old saying about glass houses that Carol may want to read about.
I’m fighting the urge to comment on comments instead of posts lately. Deplorable.
There’s that whole freedom of speech thing don’t be afraid to call it out as you see it. The right of perception.
I’ve been blocked by Carole very early on when i pointed out the fact that she “used” most of the first chapter and should give credit to The Happy Hooker: Xaveier Holland
As for Sonja, she’s to easy to gang up on and attack and its sucking to watch really. Dorinda needs to check herself, she’s turning into a mean drunk bully. Love Lu… and Bethany (hmm) anyone who gives of themselves to help others is a superstar! But back to Carole, the perpetual bff to whomever she can piggyback on, be it jet husband, his cousin, the cousins wife, the star of HW’s (you know who ?). She will, but she may have climbed on the wrong na n this time, because this ride ain’t to tinsel town!
I physically can’t stand Carole this season, her whole story line with Adam is pathetic, and the marathon running, while a big deal, she didn’t find a cure for Alzheimers, or create an entire movement for a hurricane hit country. I hope she’s next off the island.
Beekay said:
“Suddenly in her 40’s she [Carole] becomes a pet lover and a marathon runner.”
Carole and her horse teeth will be 55 in August.
THANK YOU TT, what is going on with Carole’s haughty and sanctimonious attitude this season? I’ve always liked her until now, not a good look on her. She is so awful this season that I can only conclude one of two things:
1. Carole has always had a really nasty side and we are just seeing it inevitably emerge and clash with Bethenny now
2. This whole beef is planned, mutually, for ratings (think abut it, everyone’s gripe was that B & C were an inseparable mean girl team; the only way to mix that power house up is to have them go for each other, a la Bethenny and Jill)
I think this breakup with Adam is more unsettling than Carol thought it would be. I also think Carol’s still reeling from November 2016. Perhaps she and B got into a scrap over that when B enlisted her help for PR. Not ready to give up on Carol yet, although it looks as though she’s ready to chuck it with these women.
I hope she gives up the show and gets back to writing. She’s eschewed the hard work for “easy” money. Not sure how she rationalizes that.
The good news for Carole is that shes already written her eulogy (“Carole is the kind of person….”). She’ll just need someone who can choke out the words after she goes. I think they’re all way too self-obsessed. I don’t know why it’s near impossible for them to find a housewife anywhere that is gracious and not constantly telling us how successful, beautiful, smart, or fun they are. I’d sooner think it was true if I noticed it on my own, and they didn’t continually tell me how special they are.
If this is sincere, Carole lacks self awareness more than anyone on the show, which is no small feat in this group. She always tries to come across as this laid back, drama-free, good vibes only type of gal, so above it all…..she was married to a cousin of the Kennedy’s for chrissake. Yet here she is, on her blog and on twitter seeming to be the only one perpetuating this pointless drama, even Bethenny isn’t getting this worked up about it. Either homegirl is putting in overtime for the show, or we are finally meeting the real Princess Carole. (awkward deep curtsy) P.S. Tamara thank you for putting in the watermelon picture, I can’t even explain it, but it’s my absolute favorite housewife photo!
Being passive-aggressive isn’t attractive Carole.