Southern Charm and Imposters coming back on the same night is almost too much good news at once! Wait, did they really just run RelationShep before the premiere? Please God no. Are we going to have to pretend like he found love? Because, no. Just noe.
We start with Shep bringing Chick-Fil-A to Cameron who is laying in bed being very pregnant with baby Palmer. I used to love Chick-Fil-A until a few years ago when they went all healthy with the bread. At least in the spicy chicken wraps that I used to love. Shep tells Cameron that basically, the girl he went to see in NYC dumped him. It’s Shep’s 38th birthday. Which is shocking because he looks at least 45.
Next we see Kathryn’s apartment on Daniel Island I a pause to tell you that not only does she live on Daniel Island (which is a newish planned development built on some sort of reinforced swamp land) but so does Thomas and the kids, and so does the new polo chick from the west coast who is currently the resident of Thomas’s fuck house. Thomas bought a house around the corner from his house for smashing and since he’s smashing whats her name for this season, she is living there probably in a nice place than the mother of his children. Kathyrn has just had a drug test and her arm is completely black and blue. What janky place does she have to go for her blood tests? According to their very detailed custody agreement, they are entering phase two and Thomas has to fire the nanny. Also, Kathryn will get an unsupervised visitation on Saturdays for the first time. The other visits are still supervised, usually by her mother. This phase lasts two months.
Then we see the soon to be fired nanny playing housewife to Thomas for hopefully the last time. Then Ashley the polo chick arrives and lets herself into the house and makes herself right at home. I bet she is happy this nanny is leaving too.
Kathryn tells Danni that her three year old told her “Ashley sleeps in the room with Daddy” I am not sure I believe that. I think Daddy sleeps in the room with Ashley at the flop house and slinks back home in the wee hours. Kathryn says Thomas is lucky is new girlfriend is a hospice nurse, that will come in handy. It’s actually a smart job for polo girl to have. Two birds, one stone.
Craig and Naomie have split and are moving into different places. I am team Craig. Craig has a new roommate named Sean. Um, I’m not going to say anything about that. Naomie has her new face. Chelsea and Austin are also broken up so the girls can run the streets together.
OMG. I’m having a panic attack and a freak out. Austen is at the Windjammer on IOP and this is where some of the most pivotal moments of my life occurred. I am literally having to take a moment to collect myself. I was not prepared for this. God I miss this place. I came really close to having a winter beach rental within walking distance this past winter and it was snapped up before I had a chance. This is really where I need to live. Shep joins Austen and it seems he misses Chelsea. And with that we leave the Windjammer.
The editing is weird. There is no way that Shep changed his shirt three times in one day to film three scenes with Cameran, Austen and Whitney. I’m not even sure Shep owns three shirts. Yet here we are back in Charleston in yet another bar with Whitney. Whitney looks ten years younger and much happier than the last time we saw him. He says the Yankee carpet bagger has locked down a new mark for husband number 47. She’s trying to pass of a “diamond ring” that would be a good 25 carats if it were not glass as an engagement ring. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say we never see this mysterious elderly suitor.
Thomas stops by to see JD at the guest house. Wait, he’s still allowed to live in the guest house after all the shit he pulled? Because after all that this happened. And he’s a POS. JD is drunk when Thomas arrives and production makes sure we see the copious amounts of booze in the house. Since Elizabeth refused to film, JD is driving the narrative to “Elizabeth fell out of love with him and was not supportive.” When her side of the story was ALLEGEDLY, JD has been fucking around on her, missed the birth of one of their kids while out on a three day bender, squandered all of the money her mother left her on coke and whores and failed businesses and is a slimebucket. I can’t believe this yankee poser is playing the victim. Even Thomas seems to be having a hard time sitting through this scene.
Shep and Craig meat at the butcher shop to buy meat for the birthday party. Shep’s apparently belated birthday party will be the first all cast.
WAIT! This is not Shep’s IOP house. Probably because IOP would not let him film RelationShep there and likely refused further filming of Southern Charm as well after his dickish behavior. Shep’s IOP how is on the ocean. I am not sure where this place is. Where the fuck are they? Wherever they are, Craig, Shep, and Austen are too drunk to grill the meat. It’s kind of hysterical.
Meanwhile, somewhere else, the girls are all talking about the sex habits of the guys. All the girls are single. The girls talk about Elizabeth and JD. They make it seem like Elizabeth will be on the show but I don’t think she will. She was devastated. The girls mock the polo groupie who moved across the country to be on TV for love. I love how they are all team Kathryn. All the girls are single and on the same side.
We are up to four drunk assholes who don’t know how to grill. This must be some crappy house in Mount Pleasant. I want a crappy house in Mount Pleasant, but I am sort of ready to just spend it all on a beach rental on IOP because I am having health issues and don’t want to die being frugal in the ghetto.
That was a surprising well produced episode by Haymarker. But dear Lord trying to work with some of them is like pulling teefs.
Next week: The showdown happens.
I hope Elizabeth gets a part on Southern Charm because she’ll need to support herself and her kids. She won’t get a penny from that prick loser JD.
JD apparently spent all her inheritance money. What a horrible man. She wont be able to get a part on the show as she is too private and too quiet. Good luck to her regardless.
I think Elizabeth probably figured that out a long time ago.
I was thinking this is Naomi pre-nose job because she looked the same. I didn’t look into the before and after pictures so I could be wrong. She just looked the like I remember.
She is stunning. All of the girls in that group are.
Yes agree.
But Naomi was wrong about the pronunciation of LaCroix brand sparkling water. The brand pronounces it la-croy (Katherine was right).. rhymes with enjoy.
Naomi was pronouncing it the French way.
Sometimes she can be very “Heather Dubrow.”
Her family is richer than Heather Dubrow’s husband so I guess it makes sense.
Can we discuss how peaceful it was without the squealllls
AGREED!!!!!
Thank goodness she is gone. I don’t feel deep about any reality stars but she was awful. She annoys me like Dorit.
I feel the same way about Dorit!
This was a great episode and I thought all the girls looked wonderful – including Kathryn. She is a real beauty. As for Ashley – Edward G Robinson from the “Ten Commandments” came to mind: “Ears of rat, nose of ferret” to that I would add: eyes of gerbil and tongue of serpent. The Thomas / Ashley hook-up reminds me of so many wealthy men who marry nurses precisely 25 years younger, because they want a professional caretaker — and Thomas’ nanny is leaving, so Ashley is right on schedule. How dare that little squinty eyed drip who looks as if she has a constant snotty nose, call Kathryn nothing but an egg donor? What a horrible woman. Landon did a real “Cousin Bette” by introducing this creep to Thomas just to try to get at Kathryn. Kathryn has more class in one strand of hair than Ashley ever could. She lives in Cali, couldn’t she have bought herself a chin? AND – I do fault Thomas for making his children feel inferior because he did not honor their mother enough to marry her. Now THAT is deplorable. AND – he should have and could have insured that Kathryn have a much larger and nicer apartment.
Whoah
And evidently Ashley is a Republican who often tweets about Jesus. What a hypocrite, when at the same time Ashley is telling Kathryn that she and her children are not a family with Thomas and she is nothing but a baby momma. This woman should not be tweeting about Jesus, when she acts and speaks in such an unChristian way. The mendacity.
Amen
That was a hilarious comment all around.
As.a medical professional you are rude and disrespectful. Do you even realize thecwork and study that goes into bed g a nurse. Nurses save lives. Xan I ask what you do that is so important?
For goodness sake! Not everyone who has qualified as a nurse is Mother Theresa. And there are very many caring people working in a range of other occupations.
You have a real way with words, scottishwitch! Good job. I really enjoy your comments and agree 100%.
The “should haves” you mention are based on personal opinion. How long have you watched this show? Ashley didn’t t sleep with all the male cast members. Check out those episodes. And why she doesn’t have custody. If Kathryn truly changed Thomas would have married her. This has been mentioned quite often. She is in love with herself only and uses anyone as her pawns for her next desire. Check out last reunion and her altercation with Jennifer. Evidence of her paranoia and delusions off grandeur
Dear MEH,
All I have to say about your comment — is — meh.
In answer to your question, I have watched this show from the very first episode of the very first season. You say “If Kathryn truly changed, then Thomas would have married her?” I do not know how long YOU have watched SC – but apparently you have seen very little. Also on SC Savannah, Thomas admitted that he got what he wanted out of his being with Kathryn – 2 children. Imho, Kathryn was seduced, given false promises (we heard the promises Thomas made to her on camera, yes?), brutally misused, and driven to despair while being gaslighted by Thomas and his despicable supporters, like Landon. And evidently Landon is a close friend of Ashley’s, who proudly proclaims that Landon is “her twin”. That says all I need to know about Ashley. And Ashley’s cruel and sneering behavior toward Kathryn, and her disrespect for Kathryn’s children in attacking their mother that way, confirms for me that she almost surpasses Landon in the vicious and bullying behavior category.
Amen to ALL!!
Kathryn has her issues, but why do I feel like Thomas is the real villain in the relationship.
i didn’t know JD was an imposter and what ever happened to Craig’s investment in JDs buisiness?
I seriously doubt that was real.
I think Elizabeth will be fine. She seems like a nice person and she has been way out of JD’s league in the looks department alone besides that he is a massive piece of shit. This has got to be rough for her but I think she will come out just fine!! You can tell how loyal she is by her treatment of Kathryn last season. Good thing she looked past loyalty on that loser and dropped the dead weight!
So glad Southern Charm is back! I already don’t like Ashley. And…no dolphin!!
No dolphin! That’s the best thing about this year. The brief glimpses of Landon reminded me how much I can’t stand her. Ashley looks like a bitch and I love all the negative comments about her. Shep is such a pathetic person, and it will only get worse. He’s rapidly approaching the age where you can’t get by with “boyish charm”, in fact, he may have passed it. So far, with the exception of JD, who is a lying POS, I like everyone else. Just give it time! Thomas is still an overgrown snob, but he seems to have more respect for Kethryn, which is good. I thought she and Cameron looked beautiful. Really looking forward to this show.
I am LOVING the absence of Landon. Entitled, whiny living in a alternate reality scrunchy face
I like some of the players but I won’t watch Bravo TV excuse and glorify a woman as a mother, who quite clearly drugged her son in utero. Inexcusable and a new low level of seedy.
Thanks Landon, or is it Ashley?
Ha!
Exactly!! Ashley is Landon lite!!
Kathryn seems surprised that she is still being watched closely. It looks like Kathryn has turned herself around but children are too important to thrust into a bad situation again.
KD is genius at reinventing her past. SHE LL PLAY her. I WAS SO YOUNG card until she’s fifty.
She was twenty when she started the show, you idiot. She’s 25 now.
Rubbish. You have bought into propaganda.
Hi A
Was writing my comment to Oh Sheila not Mackie.
Yep. That was Kathryn. If you watch previous shows Kathryn was often out all night in home Thomas rented for her while pregnant. She’s a manipulative psycho. If you watch the early episodes you can witness Kathryn zero in on Thomas. He was not her first older guy conquest
We have all watched the show.
Kathryn loves me amazing, I love her hair and she seems so at peace. I lie that all the girls seem to be a squad and stick together. Thomas is an asshole and his paid companion is playing her part well I guess, she seems very hardbedged. I guess being paid to be nasty to Kathryn is a good job for her. Shep does look a little rough, and Craig seem just so lost. Love me some Austin though, he is so sweet.
I swear that bar reminded me of our old bar on the Long Island Sound that we used to inhabit-weird it’s your old stomping ground!! A sign you must go!! I really like the set up with all the women single AND pissed. Should be a great season. And thank you-that ring looked like it came from a Cracker Jack box!! Nice way for Whitney to find out his mother had remarried-geesh!
I thought it was a real insight into Whitney’s background when he shared about getting the news that his mother was marrying after his parents divorced. He was in boarding school in England (hmmmm — that’s interesting in itself) and just got a letter/phone call that his mom was getting married. His comment was that it was “weird”.
Wouldn’t you think you would handle it differently and gradually introduce your boyfriend to your child? And Whitney off at school? Patricia didn’t want to deal?????
Just wondering. . .
Whenever things like that come up about Whitney’s childhood everything about he and Patricia’s relationship makes sense. Oh COURSE he was told by telegram at an English boarding that his mother remarried ?
Getting married is her job. She is a con artist, alledgedlly. A little boy just gets in the way. I’m puzzled by you are shocked by this. Whitney isn’t exactly warm & fuzzy or even happy.
I absolutely LOVE that he spilled this tea on his mom. Love that it seemed like he specifically appeared to just throw shade at her!
Whitney seems like an okayish guy I guess but not built for reality tv. Comes across cold, creepy and kind of a dick. Or his personality comes across flat. For some reason though I don’t hate him or dislike him. Now knowing this I think I love him lol
I see a lot of sadness in Whitney’s eyes. He comes across as aloof and cold but I guess being stuck at boarding school since you were 4 years old does that to you.
Coming from the UK and having studied at one of our oldest and finest educational establishment, I have met many people educated at various boarding schools. I will never do that to a child of mine. Some recognise the impact it has had on them, and past and present relationships, others don’t. The impact is evident either way.
I swear, everyone has forgotten who Kathryn has been. I want her to be the woman she is now pirtraying but I need to see more. She is the red head in the opening being nasty and mean to Ashley. That is her true personality. This “as a mother” nonsense is not really a weapon in her arsenal. She hasn’t been a mother, she is in the qualifying stages. Ashley’s comment aboug donor was out of bounds no doubt but we haven’t seen the entire conversation. Yes, Thomas is an asshole and a womanizer who has no clue how to handle this but he did step up to take care of the children.
Boy howdy is Naomi bitter. The East Coast coven need to realize empowered isn’t about being mean girls. Having said that, I do agree, dump the guy who can’t even go dutch. Your future will be grim.
We remember who Kathryn has been. A very young woman and mother who was mercilessly subjected to vicious mobbing and bullying by a crass classless bunch of nouveau riche snobs. Most of us would be in a straight jacket after all that. But Kathryn’s efforts to turn her life around have been heroic. Recovery is not an easy path. And with Thomas admitting on another program that he got some kids out of it which is what he wanted— No wonder Ashley felt she could call Kathryn nothing but an egg donor and with Thomas saying nothing. Kathryn did not attack Ashley – from what we can see in prior clips – Ashley had it coming and while Kathryn may have been heated because of her children – Ashley was demeaning and crushingly cruel. Oh – but she is a Republican who tweets a lot about Jesus. Hypocrite.
^^^ THIS. This very much.
Ashley was not Kathryn s first victim of venom
She went after Whitney. Landon. Patricia. Jennifer and all the nannies. No one is safe.
MEH perhaps re-read what ScottishWitch wrote. Kathryn was deliberately isolated by those people in a mass display of bullying a much younger, more naive girl. Even Whitney let her down badly by putting pressure on Kathryn to lie to Thomas – to save Whitney griefthen Whitney went behind her back and, without telling Kathryn, finally told Thomas the truth and made Kathryn to have lied for her own reasons. That occasion showed us the behaviour of a middle aged cad – though he appeared to behave much better towards Kathryn in later seasons.
When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Now that everyone is singing Kathyrn’s praises, I guess they all forgot that she deliberately chose to take drugs and drink alcohol during a PREGNANCY. But heh, she’s a great gal and so pretty. Gag me.
Well aren’t you an unforgiving soul? Obviously addiction has not been a disease that has crossed your friends or family path. Despite Kathryn’s successful recovery as of late, you still want her banished to a deep dark hole for life? Be kind my friend, it will pay off in the end.
I understand addiction and it was obvious that Kathryn was in the grips of it, but to do drug of any sort while pregnant is really unforgiveable. There are ways that Kathryn could have safely come down off the drugs while pregnant and give her child a better chance. It’s sad that people are judging Kathryn but it’s sadder that she wasn’t able to make good choices while pregnant.
And lack of empathy and forgiveness is the saddest of all.
She may well have affected her children for the rest of their life in a very serious way. That is the saddest thing. That is where my sympathy and understanding lie.
Recovery is a lifelong process. It is a tenuous thing and an addict can revert at the drop of a hat if they aren’t actively aware and working on it. She is only recently recovered. If the cast of Southern Charm hounded her into her addiction, why did she come back? I think it might be because they didn’t. She was familiar with drinking and drugs before she joined. She was looking for the goose who laid the golden egg and found one. Then she blames the show for her addiction? I dont think so. She and Thomas also need to decide that love for their children is more important than the jealousy and venom over past events and new loves.
I hope she works it and finds a good life. I hope she gives those two children the stable and responsible mother they deserve. I could not decide if that happened in 1 show. She opened by being mean about a woman she hadn’t yet met. No wonder it got even worse.
Thanks, “Patricia”. Contrary to your claims to be able to see inside Kathryn’s soul and find nefarious motives – most people think that Kathryn truly loved/s T Rav, and that it is fairly obvious. Their chemistry on both sides was also obvious – in a way it is not with Ashley with whom T Rav looks almost as if he has been hypotized by a Hogwarts potions class, binding elixir. I refuse to discuss the children. I really do not think anyone should. Imho. They both look fine and wonderful to me. Beautiful children! I really think all that talk MUST stop. Also, as another poster noted — Kathryn was only 21 – really a child herself when all this happened. She was no “ways of the world” match for Ravenous T-Rex who ADMITTED on another show that he got what he wanted out of it – 2 kids out of it!!! So WHO was the user??? It was T Rav. And who Ashley is – is obvious. She has already declared that she and Landon are twins! But by the tenor of your comments – maybe you all are really triplets.
The nature of true addiction is that it removes the power of choice.
That’s sort of the definition of addiction though: your brain chemistry literally changes to prioritize getting the drug over anything else. You make decisions that you never would have made had you not been changed by the drug. Your brain lies to you; it normalizes behavior that is not in any way normal; it denies that the things you are doing to yourself and others are that big of a deal; it tricks you into believing that the single most important thing in your life right now, the thing that will make everything else easier and better and more manageable, is taking the drug. Your body becomes dependent so that getting clean is not simply a matter of wanting to stop using or having the will power to “just say no,” it is a physically excruciating thing to do and it is extremely difficult. There are many women who in their teens and early twenties smoke with the idea that they will quit when they become pregnant, and then they become pregnant, and they can’t quit. They want to, they know it is the right and healthy thing to do, but it is much more difficult than they thought—and that’s just nicotine—it’s not opiates or cocaine or whatever drug Kathryn was taking. And there are some people who are able to quit smoking, or drinking, or even drugging before they become addicted, or even after they’ve been smoking for years. Those people are blessed with a different brain chemistry and they probably do not have the genetic predispositions to addiction that those who find it so much more difficult have. There are some people who are able to smoke and drink socially. There are some who are able to try any drug once and then let it go. But others cannot. And it’s not a matter of willpower, or being a good person, or being raised well, or being rational, or intelligent, or anything else. Drugs affect different people differently. And sometimes it only takes using a drug once, trying it at a party, to turn the switch in your brain that will make you obsess and crave the drug again. And after that, it only takes a very short amount of time before your body becomes addicted and it becomes impossible to sleep, eat, or even go to the bathroom normally without the drug in your system. It’s truly horrific and anyone who is able to get clean and not give up and just die in despair, is rather heroic in my book.
so you are saying it’s ok? Wow, that is just gross. Once, fine. Twice, you nasty girl! Those poor poor kids. Kids born with fetal alcohol syndrome or addicted to drugs just simply do NOT have the same chances in life
Noone said it was “OK” or not OK to be an addict. That is grossly misrepresenting what has been posted..
I think Amy and I were trying to point out addiction is not either morally OK or not OK.
Instead, a drug addict has a very serious health issue that needs treatment.
ok but I was referring to the ‘ok’ being on drugs on drugs while she was pregnant. And I believe it was with both??? I understand making a mistake we ALL do, but this is a giant mistake most of the free world doesn’t make & then to do it twice??? I’m just feeling like the lack of conviction for morality is mind boggling here. It’s not ‘slut shaming’ or ‘judgmental’. what’s right is right & when it comes to putting kids in danger directly or Indirectly (example idiot single mom living w/ a pedophile boyfriend claiming she really had ‘no idea) sorry I have ZERO tolerance
I just don’t see the lack of interest you’re claiming. People are simply saying that your moral standards are not elevated by saying any and everything to condemn while TR gets off scot free. I didn’t see the group get up a lynch mob when he went into the bathroom at the party. I don’t see them calling out the damage he’s done to his own genes or the fact that he still clearly uses while being the primary caregiver and demanding she be clear. Using while pregnant is bad news unquestionably. Why did he impregnate someone twice without considering her substance-related behavior? That’s where people here are coming from, imo. And he doesn’t have to enjoy trying to upend her constantly as much as he does. It’s ugly.
oh don’t even get me started on ‘T-Rav’. yuck!!!! that is something we most definitely can agree w/ 100% no problem there. Yes total idiot for getting her pregnant twice. ever heard of a condom? I mean wow. And, I will say I think Kathryn was gaslighted by him, augmenting any mental issues she may already have, I think where I’m coming from & it probably came out wrong, is my heart weeps for those kids and any kids born into a sad situation they didn’t ask to be born into. It’s just heartbreaking
Raelyn, obviously the addiction created a really sad situation in the past. Of course it was unfair to the unborn children. However, addiction is addiction. Kathryn cannot change what happened back then. None of us can change the past. She has clearly taken treatment and worked hard to get off her addiction to drugs and is also off alcohol at this time. That is all she can do. There is no point at this stage judging her for something she cannot change in the past.
At the same time Thomas was drinking very heavily – very obviously – onscreen right through his relationship with Kathryn. It is a fact that this is also likely to impair the child at time of conception. He may also have been using drugs at the time. He was not addicted but it seems very likely he was using – as well as drinking heavily. He talked openly on the programme about how he liked the smell of coke. He also posted on his social media about how it was not fair to prosecute users.
And it was his idea for her to get pregnant – we saw him tell Kathryn on the programme that he would like to have babies with her. She was young and silly enough to believe him. We even saw her on-screen telling others about this when they were travelling together in a car to an event. I bet she now feels really foolish for believing Thomas.
So at this stage, no I do not judge Kathryn. She has done what she can to make amends and that is all she can do.
Then I look at Thomas – way over twice her age and still apparently drinking heavily….
I agree with ALL of that! So having said that & knowing that she has a lot of people on her side rooting for her, I REALLY hope & I think we all do, that she is a good steward of the opportunity before her; that being, to make a fresh start, a prime & well liked cast member of a successful show & the chance to really make something of her future….I definitely hope the best for her, I’ve hated things she’s done but at the same time I’ve always thought she’s the most dynamic of the whole cast, her own style & flair
And slept with 3 or 4 out of the 5 guys on this show! Within the first 2-3 episodes of the first season. Not a Kathryn fan
“Slut shaming” much? Glad to see the Prissy Prudence Police are alive and well.
So what? Perhaps she likes sex. It does not need to mean more than that, and if so she is no different to the men on the show. Don’t you remember Thomas saying to Whitney, girls today are just like us?
Shep, Whitney, Thomas , no money in Craig
Ah.. I see I was right. You really are Patricia! Wait – but she was guilty of the very motives she projected on to Kathryn! Why, Patti was willing to marry them when they looked like they could barely make it down the aisle, as long as their bank account was on steroids. But – SHE is to be revered as the matron of morality, and proper Patricia(n) manners! Well – I can see why. Doggie kaftans and egg sized promise rings DO look so pretty by gaslight.
WEre we talking about Patricia? At least she didn’t blow it. She never showed up in a Motel 6 with a random guy while blowing off rehab. She earned hers.
In this era, we tend to forget that one person’s actions don’t justify the other’s person’s actions. If you steal a million, it is not ok for me to steal a dollar.
Sorry, Muffin Top – you say Patricia EARNED hers?? by virtue of an alleged superior location?? Your values are outstanding. I think Kathryn was truly in love with T Rav and was not trying to “earn” anything. Smh.
How about that.
Mackie, who Kathryn ‘has been’ is the correct wording. She is looking great this season.
While Kathryn may not be the custodial parent, she still has some rights to try to maintain stability of home life for her children. It was in the negotiated agreement the Court oversaw.
Thank you, I always try to use correct wording. She has entered phase Ii and the court has an obligation to be careful.
When the 2nd “Mackie” starts showing up on twitter & Blogs, I leave. It has been fun.
WAIT! You are not going anywhere! We can fix the Mackie issue. Or you can change your name to THE ORIGINAL MACKIE!
It’s not vanity, There is a usually a purpose for the second Mackie. I could be wrong, I will be someone new
Have to say I have posted on TT for some time and in no way am parodying you. It is pure chance I have not agreed with aspects of your comments on this thread. Perhaps just relax.
To Mackie on April 6 comment. I have seen the manipulative Kathryn often using her ‘mother’ ownership on anyone she sees fit. By this time, she is angry Thomas ihasent married her..
About Thomas stepping up to take care of his kids: he’s a fifty-something year old man who lives a life of leisure, with enough money to have multiple homes and hire nannies. I mean it’s not like he had to make a single sacrifice, giving up his social life, work life, dating life, sports life, hobbies, or travel to raise them as a single parent. He’s basically as active in their lives now as he would have been had he married their mother, possibly even less active. He wanders over to their part of the house every now and then to play and say hello while the nannies actually raise them. And the children do not appear to affect his overall lifestyle in any way. He’s still dating, he has enough money to install his girlfriend in her own place so that he can visit and stay over whenever he likes. He still drinks whenever he likes, and goes out, and his social life is not at all affected. He travels across the country to play polo whenever he likes and can either have the children and nanny come along and turn it into a “vacation” for the children or he can leave them at home with their nannies. He’s doing the bare minimum and his wealth and social status allow him to do that. If Thomas had the exact same personality, but didn’t have the money or position in society that he has, I don’t think he would be raising his own kids, being their primary care giver, getting up with them in the night, taking care of them when they’re sick, making their meals and feeding them, bathing them, teaching them their ABCs and such. I don’t think he would sacrifice his personal life in order to be Mr. Dad. But because he’s privleged enough to have sole custody without actually being any more involved than he would have been had he married their mother and just relied on her to do all the childcare instead of the nanny, he felt like he could be the custodial parent without it really impeding or changing his life in any way.
Yes. He is not putting in what the average solo dad does. He has loads of money to pay for others to do the hard yards and put in the long hours.
Amy, exactly this. They are no more than the life accessories he thinks he ought to have at his stage in life( heirs). It’s a shame they have to change nanny as she’s probably the closest to them. I believe in change, but don’t think either Kathryn or Thomas should be discussing the children or each other the way they have and seem destined to continue. I think Kathryn did grow to love Thomas (I think her initial motives we different), but to me that’s another self harm like the substance misuse. Would love to know more about her childhood.
You would think her family would rally around and help get her straightened out. Perplexed about the Calhoun/Dennis clan.
My understanding is that her family have helped her a lot and were the people who helped organise her into the rehab opportunity last year – she said that I think, either on the show or in an interview.
Thanks, Mackie40
That is exactly what they are to him: heirs. He does not treat them like he is their dad and they are his children, he treats them like he is their “ancestor” and they are the keepers of his bloodline.
Wow!!! I figured Thomas’s tramp of a girlfriend would say or do something offensive to warrant Kathryn’s wrath, and she doesn’t disappoint. But what is so sad is that he condones such mean spirited comments toward the mother of his children. A real man would have kicked that trash to the curb, but then again based on his actions and comments, I don’t think he brought her over for her mind! Lol.
Totally agree, robin madison! So well said!
Yes!! And encourages it by saying he can’t wait to see Katheryn’s reaction to her outfit or whatever. Just gross.
And we know exactly what Ashley’s personality is like just from seeing what she wore on a “meet-the-friends-for-the-first-time” outing. #ILoveMyself #InItToWinIt
Yes I love when my creepy drunk old boyfriend makes gross noises and tries to whistle at me while getting ready. Also love when he brings up how important his ex’s reaction to me is. I mean just another day in the life of an escort, allegedly. Prom up do, tacky shoes and shorts my vagina hangs out…nailing It!..said Ashley.
Wow now who slut shaming her attire was completely appropriate she has long legs and it was not that short…
It honestly looked like something I wear to bed in the summer, sans the sandles
Sandals…
Agreed.
Nope not linking her short shorts to being an escort as that would fit into the definition of slut shaming just pointing our her outfit as it was a storyline plot in a show I just watched. The show discussed here. The statement she is an escort alledgedlly is separate.
I don’t think anyone is “slut shaming” here, I think they are calling her a polo whore. Which is way different than just letting her freak flag fly. She is literally asking what Thomas wants her to wear and he is telling her that he wants her to dress in a way that most upsets the mother of his children.
I agree It s a party on the ocean. It’s hot. She wasn’t in a bikini. In response to several nasty comments Kathryn is no saint.
So are nurses who wear shorts escorts? It seems so many of you haven’t watched the machinations if Kathryn
People who read here consistently know all the tea. You clearly need to do some reading.
last year at the step & release Cameron wore a Beautiful outfit consisting of shorts (not skin tight & not daisy dukes) & a flowy sexy but classy creme top. I’m sorry but this outfit was TRASH. If that’s how she wants to look there’s no judgment I’m just stating the obvious that it’s the difference between trailer park & park avenue.
We are not slut shaming, just calling her on her on ego. She looked really cute but choosing those shorts over the dress really was in your face.
I thought I saw a change in Thomas who seemed to me to have lost some of his attractive sureness and energy and turned totally into an embarrassingly pervy old guy – eg gaping at Ashley’s rear and asking that cringe-worthy joke – “Would you like a screw – driver?” Very icky!! Most men of any age do not descend to such barf-inducing language. Doing it with cameras rolling shows a huge disconnect between any idea of the image he hopes to project and actuality . He always did it a bit – I remember an occasion he made Dani very uncomfortable with a similar comment. Appears to be getting worse though. He seems to me desperate to present himself as irresistible – but this huge, slimy effort has the opposite effect on me. If Ashley puts up with this on a daily basis, frankly she deserves to be paid. Most of us would look at our men and wonder if they were sinking into the sort of senility where they were best not let out of the house.
I think you saw correctly, Mackie40.
Actally, scottishwitch, I have re-watched and think what I am seeing is that the way Ashley relates to Thomas seems to make him seem very old and sleazy. Although Kathryn was younger than Ashley, she called him out on BS and somehow he seemed younger and more onto it around her.
Agree!
I’m laughing at the people with their noses up St. Kathryn’s freckled red ass. How quickly they forget her bullshit and how blind they are to her instigating crap with Thomas’s new acquisition.
This season is going to be fun.
I agree!
Not a very kind post at all TobaccoRhoda. Sad to see a grown woman running another down because she has feckless.
Sorry, “freckles”.
OMG! Someone stage a protest! Call Freckled Ass United and lodge a complaint!
Lol.
This is a good place to only say, what a good episode to begin the season.
Katherine2.0, thanks for the giggle. ?
My Grandma used to say that a face without freckles is like the sky without stars. In short the sky is beautiful with or without stars.
I just find it so funny what is latched on. Freckles, never thought someone could or would have something to say about freckles.
Just one of those days, I find it so funny.
I did not read that as running Kathryn down because she has freckles. Why does Kathryn evoke such strong reactions in people?
A lot of people see Kathryn as a victim in some ways. I can’t totally disagree with this. And everyone loves a comeback story. Also as humans we have ALL fucked up in one way or another and like to believe the world is not such a dark place you can’t be forgiven for bad decisions at TWENTY ONE years old, perhaps but not sure!
I see Ashley will be the new Landon in Kathryn’s eyes. Grow up Kathryn. Didnt you live with some guy for a while in Virginia. Cruel firing the nanny when she has raised those kids since birth and the only mother they know. Guess the nanny knows too much of your escapades.
More like the nanny knows Thomas’ escapades, and took care of ickle baby boy Tommie too.
Nanny testified against her in court on the neglect of the kids. Why Kathryn has nothing to do with Jennifer too.
Right. And who paid the nanny’s salary? The nanny’s untoward behavior was visible on camera.
That is not the nanny that has raised them since birth, you are thinking of Dawn, not Deidre. Kathryn loved Dawn and she helped out Kathryn a lot but Thomas decided to get rid of her. Kathryn doesn’t like Deidre because she’s unprofessional as she would bring her young daughter around the kids and allow Thomas to flirt with her and establish some sort of relationship with her. Deidre has not raised those kids, she is a merely a babysitter.
Ashley is not Landon. I am sure Kathryn is aware of that. To me Kathryn shows no sign of being personally interested in Thomas but she does have a Court mediated agreement with Thomas regarding keeping the children protected from being exposed to various transient girlfriends of Thomas – that he clearly broke the terms of right away. Kathryn had every right to object to that.
Is the agreement available to read? I thought these things were usually kept secret and within the courts. I’d be interested to see what is actually in the agreement because taking the word of the parties involved just doesn’t make sense.
I linked to the parenting agreement in the post.
Totally agree. The “hospice nurse” was no more after she finally got her hooks into a polo guy – any polo guy. It turned out to be dumbo Thomas who believed her flattery.
Kathryn was used and abused as a young naive girl by Thomas and a range of older people were also very much less than kind, so her turning to drugs was not a surprise when he let her down so badly.
Meanwhile any damage to unborn children’s health could also have come from an older father’s very visible heavy drinking around time of conception.
Kathryn has surprised me by how she has turned her life around against the odds, faced her problems and grown into a most interesting and beautiful woman. She has tons of spirit and courage. I bet one day Thomas will realise he made a major mistake letting Kathryn get away while he is stuck with cloying saccharine Ashley (or similar) who harps on about praying for haters and her fake-as religious piety.
Thomas will never be married. . . and he will regret it as you say. .
Mackie I agree one hundred percent. I am very happy that Katherine is turning her act around and seems to have the support of the other women. She was in quite a bit of a mess and I have been rooting for her freckled behind for quite some time. The men on this show make me gag, Trav in particular.
Kept waiting for Assley to change out of her underwear, turned out that was the outfit? Tacky…
PLEASE READ THE COMMENTING RULES, Unimpressed.
Quite funny though TT.
True. But I can’t go down that road. It just becomes a mish mash of stupid nicknames that no one can follow.
Yes.
If I never have to watch man child Shep eat or drink on camera, I will be very happy.
Add Cameran to that. I literally get sick watching her eat . .
TT you should absolutely rent a place for a few weeks at least by The Windjammer! I was struck by how lovely the beach was in the scene and if you’re not feeling well a little beach time might be great for you. Plus, I bet Banjo would love it. It looks like a great spot.
The girls all looked so pretty. I really hope they all stick together. In other news, I’m off to see Andy Monday night in LA. The theater is closer to me but, almost twice as big as last year so I’m feeling a little hesitant. I’m not a big crowd kind of person.
I am going to Charleston this weekend for the Cooper River Bridge Run. All I could afford were cheap rooms in Mount Pleasant LOL. IOP is a retirement dream….one day! I am looking forward to this season.
@Jana: My son does that run. Have fun!
My daughter runs that one as well. She was disappointed last year because the team chose a franchise restaurant for dinner instead of something local with great food. She loves Charleston and had high hopes.
Re: Patricia I have noticed Patricia’s comments over the years about her own love life such as “I’m not married right now.” and that she knows how to attract a man. And now she has an “admirer’? I am intrigued that she actually I still open to getting married again. And also, how can she find anyone wealthier than Arthur Altschul?
Hoping to see an article on Ashley, Tamara so we can “get to know her”. (wink)
Yes please! I’m curious if she’s actually a nurse or just a CNA of some type. I seem to remember reading something about her being a MA or CNA, but it may just be my prejudice against anyone who would disparage a young mother who’s actively trying to overcome addiction and putting in the work to be a better mother. I hope she never has any kind of relationship with those kids, she really shouldn’t be within listening distance of them at any point in the future.
I’m holding out judgment on Ashley. Kathryn may be sober but she is still vicious and I think jealous. She loved/loves Thomas and seeing him with other women brings out the worst in her.
Doesn’t matter. If she is truly interested in being the stepmother to those two children, she CANNOT sink to the level of EITHER of the parents. Period.
(Besides, if the egg donor comment was true, that means she is knowingly with a guy who manipulated and used a 21 year old girl to breed like a damn polo horse, so he could have kids to carry on his illustrious name and continue to tomcat around.)
Agree 100% Erica.
In any case she has been a lot more than an egg donor in those children’s lives. She carried them for a start and they lived with her till she crashed last year. And I see evidence of her spending all the time she can with them since rehab time away finished. I am very surprised a woman who purports to be a caring nurse would even have a thought like “egg donor” on her mind – let alone say it. Or have the effrontery to say something to a mother as clearly inappropriate as that she, as the father’s girlfriend, spends more time with the children than their mother, or that their mother is not part of the children’s family.
This!
It looks like we traded a dolphin for a baracuda.
That is so funny JrLeager. Ashley physically looks like a barracuda. And she seems to know exactly how to play Thomas. Evidently Landon had something to do with Thomas meeting her. He looks almost besotted and like a stick of melting butter when she is around. He obviously likes the way she makes him feel — babied and pushed around at the same time. He was the baby of the family after all. This time — I do not even think Thomas knows what has hit him. Because he is at the age where he just wants to settle down and be taken care of (by a registered nurse – it’s a two-fer). He does not see that Ashley could be all manipulation, sprinkled with Jesus tweets. Because – how could anyone who talks about Jesus all the time, even though she tells a young mother that she is just a baby momma and nothing but an egg donor, be a cold-blooded take-over artist? Bless her heart.
You know, my gentlemanly uncle has always said no man thinks is beautiful woman will do him any harm.
@Scottishwitch: Totally agree with you.
Love, love, love your name. I am currently kind of obsessed with the Outlander series. ?
Thank you so much, JrLeaguer! -:) I love Outlander too! ???????
I think he is simply desperate to believe he is not getting old and losing attractiveness to young women and, despite his growing creepiness, he has a lot of money. So Ashley is actively giving him the feedback that allows him to hang onto his desired image, in his own eyes. There is a very old saying: there is no fool like an old fool. Plastic surgery will be next, if it has not started already.
Ashley may be a lovely woman who is being used by TRav or she may be a fame whore looking for TV time. She may be neither. I haven’t seen enough of her to form an opinion. The way Bravo edits things in their sneak peaks and such is seldom anywhere near how it plays out when we see the entire situation. So, at least for me, the verdict is still out on Ashley.
Or she is using TRav and he is using her.
They deserve each other. They both make a big show of being pious Christians, regardless of behaviour.
Sure Kathryn can attack, but she does not pretend to be a sweet, cute and pious girl. Ashley does hold herself out as sweet, cute and pious but can manage some very vicious attacks. On instagram she is very judging of others – which I do not see in Kathryn.
does Saint have some disabilities or problems as a result of drinking or drugs while pregnant?
There have been lots of rumours. But really, who knows? Who even knows if there is a problem? You also have an oldish father who is/was a heavy binge drinker around the time both children were conceived. This was clear on nearly every episode. He may also have been taking drugs, even if he was not addicted. Remember when he was standing for office and Whitney told him not to say he liked the smell of coke, or something like that? Easy to blame the mother though.
Umm he also was arrested for coke!
Spent several years in prison.
No, he was sentenced to 10 months. I’m not sure how much of that he actually served.
I just love Craig’s demeanor this season. He looks better than he ever has. I have always liked him and thought he got a bath wrap. The grilling debacle was classic. Glad Shep quit being such a prick to him. Tommy boys new chick was putting on a total show for the camera’s. . Bible thumping whore is what she going to play out to be. Austin probably didn’t want to move to Savannah for his job because he knew he would loose his spot on the show.
Can someone explain the ‘carpet bagger’ comment Whitney made? I haven’t seen the episode yet and I’m a little lost as to who was getting married…?
We are staying on Folly Island off of Charleston this week for spring break. We were in Charleston yeterday on a private tour. I asked our guide about his thoughts on Southern Charm and he said that you can’t find many people from Charlesron that will “lay claim” to the people on the show and that if some of them actually worked they wouldnt have time for all their embarrassing shenanigans. I tried to get my hubby to drive around town so I could see Thomas’ and Patricia’s houses but he unfortunately, had no patience for it as the show drives him nuts! The weather here is beautiful right now TT. We have walked the beach everyday and its in the low 70s. This island is “hippish” compared to Isle of Palms but they are incredibly dog friendly here, which we enjoy!
Love Folly, we go there every 3 months for a week. Make sure you eat at Lost Dog and Witch Dr. Taco Boy is overrated. Our friends that live downtown Charleston and also Folly said the locals hate the show and think it is an embarrassment to their culture.
Charlie we are hoping to come back next spring break. Love the house we rented. We walked the beach every morning and my hubby enjoyed searching for sharks teeth. Made the mistake of eating at Taco Boy the other night. I gave it a terrible rating. Totally over hyped! Have you tried the Surf Bar? I loved their drink called The Painkiller. You literally felt no pain after a few!
Y’all need to email the place of a good rental. On Folly or IOP.
What is your email address TT?
tamaratattles
gmail
Look up The Rathershacks website. They have like 7 properties and all very clean, nice and priced very well. Owners are too cool. We bring the dog now and they aren’t pet friendly but if u don’t bring a dog their properties rock. Love the surf bar . Put many dollars on their walls 🙂
Has Katherine ever attempted suicide? One of her wrists looked scarred, like her copious self tanner couldn’t absorb cause of scar tissue. Her bruising on her arm looked very bad- and honestly looked more like cellulitis from IV drug use. I hope I’m wrong. However she does seem frequently impaired .
I have had similar bruising from regular annual blood tests. Some of the people in the med labs are not that careful!!
Ja, my husband has had bruising like that from a nurse taking blood for annual physical requirements.
I easily bruise like the Georgia peach that I am and to top it off, it takes forever for me to heal. Nothing medically awry, just how I have been since childhood.
I don’t understand all the hate for Kathryn. She was a very foolish (and stupid at times) young woman, who was used and taken advantage of by men almost or over twice her age. I hope she is turning it around. I am sure all the haters have no regrets for their own conduct.
I have seen enough of Ashley to form an opinion. Her words to Kathryn at the beginning of the show, and her thirsty modeling performance are enough for me. Her choice of outfits was also a transparent attempt to upset Kathryn and “impress” the others (of what, I am sure she has no idea).
The choice of outfit sets her tone for the whole season.
I also don’t understand why Kathryn isn’t more cagey about how she deals with Ashley. We all know to keep our friends close and our enemies closer. I think and air of nonchalance and the Pat Altschul side-swipe is the most effective approach.
an air of nonchalance
I just love this show! I do not dislike Naomi but I am also Team Craig. I thought he was right on all his points while smoking the meat. Shep had to stop opening the lid letting the smoke out and Austin shouldn’t have used same tongs that he used on raw chicken- that’s so dangerous! I would’ve been angry too.
That raw meat exchange with cooked meat would have freaked me out, so I appreciated Craig’s awareness of food safety.
I can see both sides of the Craig/Naomi divide, from a distant vantage point / not knowing them, so I think maybe they’re just not suited to one another. That doesn’t make either of them bad or wrong.
Glad to see Kathryn finally has a tribe this season. It’s about time. Not sure why JD deserves a spot; Elizabeth is the one deserving a check. Love it that Craig is still embroidering–I have a few of those machines myself. Somehow reassuring that TRav is still Peter Pan so that all the Wendys can eventually outgrow him. Watching Cameran’s transition (finally) into adulthood (sorta) has been worth the wait, & am anxious to meet Palmer. Yes, Whitney is looking better, not so dissipated. A little facework? A little fewer booze calories?
Good points, all. Is that why Whitney looked a bit more normal? Better work? And I agree on Cameran.
Re: Cameran Really, really hoping she keeps that baby off the show!
That would definitely make me think more highly of her. I suspect her husband might have an opinion there.
“Craig has a new roommate named Sean.”
Damn you, TT! I had zero interest in watching until you dropped this. I hope he’s come …. around. Again.
I’ll get back to you.
Oh, the only man — old or otherwise — lurking around Chateau Malicious is the Butler. And he is NO Rhett.
Toodles!
Hi K. Cooper Ray! You are missed on the show
War Eage, where you ‘bin Cooper
Ha! I said I wasn’t going to talk about THAT, Coop! /giggles
K. Cooper Ray! So great to hear from you. We miss you and hope you will be commenting on this season!
I’m bummed we won’t get to see Elizabeth. I’d rather her than drunk old JD.
All the comments and opinions of Kathryn never mention she didn’t need to get pregnant. She did it deliberately because she thought Trav would marry her and she’d be taken care of for the rest of her
life. Then, to have one child out of wedlock, she went on to have another. The whole thing was to trap
Travis into marriage. Unfortunately for the innocent little children, it didn’t work. I’m sorry that Kathryn
slipped into drug addiction, just shows her immaturity. For those poor little kids sake, I hope she does
pull herself together and become a real mother. She’s well out of Trav’s life, he’s no longer young, no longer good looking, no longer nice or fun to be with, all he’s got is money. Actually, he’s pretty creepy, still hanging around with people half his age. Ugh!
That is not at all what happened. Thomas (not Travis) started asking Kathryn to have his babies when the very first started dating. It was his idea. He deliberately got her pregnant both times and promised to be a family. Instead he partied and screw around. He was doing a lot of partying when she came along to join him. AND KATHRYN IS THE IMMATURE ONE?
This is why we love you, TT! You have all the good scoop!
I don’t understand the idea that after baby one failed to get him to marry her, she would purposefully have baby two in order to get him to marry her. This makes her at once a manipulative, devious, scheming woman and incredibly naive, stupid, and unable to look out for her own interests. It just doesn’t make any sense! She can’t be both!
And when a man says, “I want to have babies with you and get married, let’s start trying for a baby right now, and if you get pregnant, I’ll marry you before the baby is born,” then how is it the woman scheming him into marriage with “trap baby”? If anything, it sounds like Thomas was scheming Kathryn into having his children with promises of marriage. It’s the complete opposite of what is being alleged! He immediately told her, all of his friends, his family, the viewers, and his priest that he was very excited to be with Kathryn because her “pedigree” was perfect for baby making! Her illustrious family history and the Calhoun connection is what he wanted for his children, and he got it, but she got nothing in return.
He definitely did all those things. Interesting that we’re charged with not watching the show by one of the posters. Also interesting that his genetic contribution is ignored when it’s established that men damage their own genes with his type of behaviors. Furthermore, how does TR have no responsibility for choosing to impregnate anyone when they both, both of them, functioned in a substance-induced haze? He was 2 1/2 times her age.
Does anyone believe for a minute that the giant rock Patricia was flashing is a real diamond?
Not anyone with a brain.
I couldn’t wait for this show to come back on. The ladies look fantastic this year and seem to rally together well. I’m wondering if they will show Kathryn working at the shop she quit right after filming.
Are you sure that is true, that she quit? There seem to have been recent photos of her on social media with a senior person from the store, as in Fashion Week. Maybe just another rumor to undermine Kathryn?
Ashley is diving right into the middle of the bad comments about her. Check out her IG story that’s up now. #goinafterPatricia
I CANNOT WAIT for Ashley to get pregnant!! The sh*t is gonna hit the fan, then!! And, once that love child comes along, T-Rav will dump the older two kids in a heartbeat, for the new golden child. Sad, but I predict that it will happen….
I have a lot of truly awful things to say about TRav but I don’t believe he will turn his back on his children. He said the baby boy was his and would raise him even when he wasn’t positive he was the father.
Ashley has no doubt declared her love for both of them and would swear the love even if they were demons on wheels.
Ravenel has been on a rampage on his IG and twitter accounts. He cited a recap of episode 1 in his local paper and called the author “a human tampon.” There were lots of other nasty coments by him.
He just deleted both his twitter and IG accounts. What a stupid man. I assume he makes these posts after he’s been drinking. Or he is truly vile.
I have noticed his language is getting really crude and a bit disgusting – along with him looking older and more sleazy. He is no prize!!
This is going to be a fun season. I’m rooting for Kathryn and hope she stays sober. Two innocent children are at stake. I also have a big soft spot for Craig — embroidering the grilling aprons made me laugh so much. He’s unique in his talents and interests.
Thank God whiny Landon is out. I had enough of her fakeness. And I may be on an island about this, but I’ve always liked Whitney. I think there’s a depth to him that’s lacking in most of the other players, and his story about how he got Patricia’s marriage announcement was very telling. I’m hoping for his happiness, too.
TT: pleeeeeease give us some info on the latest off screen drama! I’m dying to know more details about Thomas and Ashley’s fight with Patricia (and her fake diamond ? )
Could it be to do with the joke little video Pat put on her Tsocial media re “Thirsty” on April 7? If Thomas then sent her some of the typically crude abuse as he seems to unleash from time to time, she may well have blocked him. After all, he and Ashley seem to set out to block critics most days, and leave up obsequious comments of a small group of fawning supporters.
He obviously goes right out on a limb for Ashley, as he never did for Kathryn. Ashley must be really important to the image he feels he has of himself.
That is really well put, Mackie — “important to the image he feels he has of himself.” — nothing to do with love for another person.
I am sure that is why he and photos of him and Ashley look so “staged”. He is staging and presenting an image and she often produces syrupy words to go with the pics.
Take a look back thru his Instant to the sunset cruise shot on yacht, and similar.
My question is : how far is he fooling himself?
Instagram!
Those kissy/make out pics they post are vomit inducing. Bleh.
Tbh she could be crazier than Kathryn at this point. She and Thomas’ instagram and Twitter are a riot ??
There are some crazy ass bitches that apparently are just fans of this show or somehow connected to Ashley in some way. I can’t really figure out what is going on but they seem to be related to the Ashley situation. Perhaps the people that initially started the Ashley rumors about being a polo groupie. They are in some kind of war with each other and someone who runs or claims to run a fan site for the elderly carpetbagger. I am not sure what is really going on. But one of them keeps promising to sue me for all sorts of things.
Lord I wish she would. She’s crazy as a Bessie Bug and her issue is with some comments and I am not legally responsible for the shit y’all post here. I’m telling you there are some off the chain crazies surrounding the Ashley situation. Maybe they are rabid Kathryn fans? I really don’t know what is going on. But Fingers Crossed for frivolous lawsuit going to court! Nothing says RATINGS GOLD like a frivolous Bravo related lawsuit.
I have noticed for some time there are 6 – 10 names constantly popping up on various accounts to support the idea of Ashley being a really sweet princess and love goddess. (I have not seen their instagram names on your pages, but they could possibly be there, or coming to you, under other names.)
These people attack Kathryn on-line and/or anyone who says a word of criticism about Ashley. I would be seriously worried if any of my friends were so heavily invested in the progress of my life!! I would be most embarrassed!! But Ashley often writes a syrupy thank you to them for comments. These people are definitely psycho.
I somehow don’t think any of this is anything to do with Kathryn – who is generally looking quite relaxed overall, and we know she does not have a huge filter and will call it as she sees it – eg in the clips we saw on Episode 1 with Ashley.
The Ashley people are also rabid abour someone they call Lu or Luzanne, who they accuse anyone who criticizes Ashley of being. Probably nonsense – I do question whether anyone would bother to put together 20 or more personas to attack Ashley in social media. I for one could not keep my head around that. It is over the top crazy all around.
The person they call Lu or Luzanne has some connection with Pat Alschul – who has obviously seen the light very clearly re Ashley. After all, she obviously knows her stuff about collaring men and various unwritten protocols around it. One of her latest posts about a book including the word Tramp in its title is perhaps linked – though Ashley’s name is not mentioned on that post – it is just a recommended book. Pat recently mentioned on social media that when Whitney had brought a billionaire home Ashley slipped him her contact details and kissed him on the mouth.
Altogether, something very, very odd about the Ashley and Thomas relationship which is tied to his ego and her ambitions. But I just don’t see the payoff for the other crazy people you describe. Will be interesting!!