Farrah
The bad news is that we have to talk about Farrah. The good news is that she and her family are in Italy. She is hanging out with Michael and Amy and Debra is off by herself. Later, Farrah and Sophia go to lunch with Debra. Oh the have to make their own gnocchi. If I am going to Italy, I am not cooking anything while I am there. All of my energy will be focused on eating. Farrah tries to get a bowl and an egg for Sophia to play with while she waits on dinner. The lady pretends not to speak English. Farrah lets us know that bowl and egg are the same in every language.
Wait! Farrah has a sister? Did I know this? When Debra talks about her wedding she says she has a man of honor. Farrah wants to know why “her other daughter” is not the maid of honor since she didn’t want to do it. Then they have a fight about Simon. Farrah calls Debra and evil bitch and cusses her out.
Catelynn
For reasons that are unclear, Butch has taken pair of yard clippers to the cast of Tyler’s nephew. Apparently, it is time to take it off and his mom can’t be bothered to take him. Meanwhile, Catelynn is out to lunch with her mom. She’s also out to lunch in general talking about getting pregnant to avoid having to help with renovations. I read the other day that she is back in rehab for the third time. She got out just before Christmas and already needs to go back. She needs to keep that birth control in.
Catelynn goes to have her birth control removed and doctor tells her to lose at least 15 pounds before getting pregnant. Apparently, it hurts to have an IUD removed.
Maci
Maci in Knoxville on a girls trip to a Tennessee game. The mood is pretty mellow because the team lost the game. The girls ask about Ryan and Maci says he is still refusing to take a drug test. Everyone is wondering what he is hiding. Once again, the suspicions creep up that he is still using.
Ryan and Mack are going to Las Vegas for a Bachelor and Bachelorette party. Ryan’s parents are coming with them. Who decided this was a good idea? In Vegas, Mack says that the day of their wedding will be Ryan’s six month, sobriety marker. Ryan tells Mack to ease up on her drinking when they all go out to the club. The next day is a spa day for the girls. It is there that Mack declares that she and Ryan are going to have another kid next year. Why would anyone think this was a good idea? Ryan’s mom says he needs a do over. One of Mack’s friends asked about the ceremony they already had. Mack doesn’t want to talk about it. Clearly, Mack’s friend was cast by production. We get to see the flashback of the heroin ceremony. She claims she didn’t know what was going on until after that ceremony. Bullshit. She also tells the group that she invited Maci and Taylor to the wedding. However, the invitation Maci received was only for her and Bentley and it was also in her maiden name.
Ryan, his dad and two random people cast as friends are having some man talk. His dad asks if they are planning on having more kids. Ryan says no. But they probably will get another dog. When asked about Maci coming to the wedding, he says that Mack invited Maci and Bentley. His father tries to correct him, saying that Taylor is invited. Ryan ignores him. Ryan also looks high as a kite.
Amber
It appears that the new guy moved right in with Amber. And now she is taking him on vacation in Hawaii. Oh, Amber. She’s hoping for some romance on the trip. Unfortunately, on the way there, Amber gets really sick. It seems like food poisoning. Or not. She is still really sick the next day. They still manage to make their private snorkeling trip on the boat. I wonder if MTV is paying for all of that. I kind of feel like Farrah may have paid for the trip to Italy.
Gary and his wife read some stories online about Amber’s new man. He’s apparently struggle with alcohol and depression. He has also had restraining orders against him. Gary said she should have waited before jumping into a relationship and spent some time with her daughter. Who knew Gary was going to be the voice of reason on this show. Leah has apparently asked why Amber is too depressed to see her, but not too depressed to be with Andrew. Gary points out that even when they were together, she would sleep all day and he was Leah’s primary caregiver.
Amber is still not feeling well. She starts to wonder if she is pregnant. They take a pregnancy test and sure enough, she is.
This is the biggest train wreck unleashed on the young and clueless. Teen girls think these women hung the moon when all they really did was get knocked up in HS. Happens all the time and most girls grow up quickly and take care of their responsibilities as best as they can. Not this group. Farrah, enough said about her; Catelynn is depressed, knows she needs help and removes her birth control. Amber is too depressed to see her daughter but a new man and new baby makes a lot of sense to her. MTV is doing the world no favors by airing this. It did begin as a good concept but has failed.
Still stuck on the couch with a boot on my foot, so I’m watching old Pump seasons and waiting for you to make another funny post about these shit shows we all watch lol Thanks TT!!!
I really want to know why Mack is even on this show and willingly married to an addict? I don’t get it. I Also want to know why Ryan stays seeing how evil she is, like he doesn’t have a choice or a backbone, or both. It was hard to watch her laugh over the invitation knowing what she did and Jenn didn’t seem too pleased either. I really like Jenn and wonder how much more she will take from this chick.
I just can’t feel bad for Caitlyn anymore. I’m not insensitive to depression as I have dealt with it myself and have had “episodes” but you learn about yourself and try to recognize when you might be going down that path and do things to try to stop it or slow it down. Especially as an adult, you find tools, self awareness, etc. to help you get through those tough mental times. Other than going to rehab, I don’t see her doing anything to help herself. Maybe I’m being an asshole, I don’t know…
I’m beginning to think Cate’s “rehabs” are retreats where you hike and have a private chef and a little group therapy. Nothing too intense. Just an escape from being a toddler mom.
Agreed. While I think she truly has some depression issues it seems ridiculous she needs to go on another 6 week intensive care program.
She’s very suicidal apparently. That’s like hell on earth-until you’ve experienced it, there’s no way to explain it and most people really can’t understand.
Hello EDub………this is a shoutout/commiseration from another current boot wearer.
How did you hurt your foot, or ankle? My situation occurred on 12/27 when my socked right foot slipped out of a flat Espadrille slipper and, in the process, the outer part of my foot kind of rolled over to the outside, at which point I heard the bones crack. Went to the local ER for an X-ray and a few hours later was diagnosed with a fractured foot at which point I got the boot and went home.
I’d had the flu since the beginning of December and was well on my way to recovery from it before that trip to the ER. Unfortunately, the ER was packed to the rafters with sick children and their parents so the next day my flu had returned with a vengeance. Amazingly, over 3 wks. later, the bruise on my foot hasn’t faded, the pain is actually worse and my previously injured right knee is, for some reason, giving out far more often than it did prior to the fractured foot.
It’s been frustrating and, not only do I not have a TV with cable, I don’t even have Netflix to watch on my laptop. That’s going to have to change because apparently this healing is taking much longer than I’d expected.
Hope you’re further along in the recovery process and improving every day. God bless.
If you two boot wearers need something to past the time, I’d suggest this….
http://tamaratattles.com/?s=Jodi+Arias
Go all the way back to the first post and work your way through, The comments are capped at 500 per post I think, It will take a few days to get through it all.
And back then I was not as batshit and didn’t have so many errors in my posts.
Thank you so much for this. I don’t have a boot but I have H.Pylori (a bacteria caused stomach infection very painful & causes intense nausea. I’ve been reading every single article on your page plus every comment because we cancelled our cable & got this Firestick thing. Nobody in our home knows how to use it so we just stare at it & wish he had cable back. I live for this site. I’m now going to throw myself into the Jodi Arias saga 🙂
So sorry you are going through that!! I am a gymnastics/tumbling coach. Tuesday I was doing a demonstration and when I landed My foot rolled underneath me and I heard a loud snap. It was awful. I sprained the exact same ankle about a year ago. Hope this doesn’t become a tradition. My Ortho had a good laugh at it though lol
Thanks TT for the suggestion! I’m going to go through those today!
Feel better Jup!
Morning EDub………Ouch! Are you still able to coach? I do hope you’re not losing money on top of being wounded. I’m wondering how long your ortho guy has said the healing process will be for you since feet take a long time to heal.
Interesting that you too are dealing with a re-injury of the same foot. It was 18 yrs. ago that I fractured my right foot and now I’ve done it again, although this time was nowhere near as bad as back then. As I mentioned, the right foot injury has exacerbated my right knee which was injured when I was rear-ended by a woman driving far too fast and not paying attention and that was 5 or 6 yrs. ago. So I’m wearing a knee brace and the boot and the pain has now gone into my lower back, radiating up and down the leg and even in the groin area. The pain has gotten so bad that it’s now waking me up every morning around 4am. UGH!!
They aren’t kidding when they say old age is not for sissies! So, I’m advising everyone to avoid it at all costs. teeheeheeheeheeheehee. I’ll be thinking of you and will look for you when I check in here at TT.
Tamara, thank you for the suggestion. I’ll definitely check that out. Jodi is a fascinating character and certainly no dummy. But psycho killer, quesque se! She lived here in the Monterey Bay area a couple of years before she murdered Travis and worked at Ventana Inn (tres shi shi) in Big Sur.
“And back then I was not as batshit and didn’t have so many errors in my posts.” Error schmerrors, your writing is so far above that of all the other reality tv bloggers and an error or two is not going to change that.
Have a wonderful weekend!!
That’s just terrible. So sorry you’re going through this. Sending kind thoughts and well wishes your way.
(For some variety, I often get lost watching Turner Classic Movies all day)
good luck boot wearers. i broke my foot last December, had a major surgery and spend months not allowed to put weight on it then finally back in a boot. prettty much in a cast or boot for eight months. good luck.
it was super hard with a two and four year old but I can walk now and able to work. I just broke another bone on Thursday but cant take any time off this time at all. these recaps help when I have time to rest!
Hope your booted foot heals quickly EDub.
Regarding Mack, I thought she would at least try to be nice, but she is a mean bitchy character.
No one’s ever going to like her, plus, she really has nothing interesting or any reason to be on the show.(all she is good for is stank face and being oblivious)
She hasn’t deserved lunch with friends that we don’t know who they are, lol.
Thanks!! I laughed really hard at your comment. It is so true!! That stank face is so stuck haha! I, too, wonder why we have to see so much of her.
Yes! She has resting bitch face. She goes after Macy as a deflection because she can’t deal with her unbelievable stupidity. Unfortunately, it will make Ryan worse-she’s hurting him, not helping.
There was also a conversation between Tyler and MTV minder about how Catelynn promised to quit smoking by a certain time after Nova was born.
Tyler stated that she had to quit smoking ? before he would try for another baby.
Meanwhile, Catelynn told a minder that she was getting her birth control removed, and was smoking as she drove to and from the doctor.
The doctor did advise losing weight, and talked about other issues.
MTV is setting up horrible role models F4 viewers.
Smoke, drink, drug, go off your meds, be an evil bitch, have more kids, and get paid! Houses, cars, trips..
But then kids see adults watch this and other shows thar reward horrible behavior, so there you go.
Amber with a new baby.. new guy, who said on camera that he became obsessed while filming the marriage boot camp show.. totally unprofessional, but he landed a place on this show, and she may expect him to care for this child .. Unlikely.
Ryan. His dad is a total tool, encouraging drinking around his addict son. And Mack too. Evil.
I am sure Macy would rather skip the wedding, but she knows Bentley would want to go and no way is she sending him alone. It sounded like she was going to add others when she RSVPd.
Andrew said he discreetly listened to Amber and Matt’s story.
Funny how Andrew did exactly what Matt did. Reached out on social media, came to visit, missed his flight home (on purpose he said), and never left.
I mean getting her preggers was the final nail in her coffin. This is going to be a disaster as she is off her meds, or needs pain meds, I just don’t want him to make her go backwards and I think this could ruin everything she has been working towards, but we don’t know the real situation, she tends to be able to fib pretty easily.
P.s. I wish I could remember which reunion Dr Drew asked each girl which birth control they are using. Interesting if it was the one that you get taken out.
Time between Matt and Andrew seems like it almost was planned. Hmmm.
I am starting to think that unless they keep having babies that maybe the paychecks stop and you may even find yourself without a show, so could this be the reason why some keep having babies, even tho you aren’t prepared. It wasn’t that long ago that Amber had told Matt that they weren’t having any kids because of her bipolar and the meds she was on, she didn’t think she could go off them nor could she stay on them being pregnant and the next thing you know she’s with this new guy and pregnant. So is it possible that if you aren’t having babies you are no longer needed for a show about teen moms OG of course, so if they still needed a paycheck, for the house, cars, trips, tattoos animals of course. I wish once they reached a certain age that it would have been the end of the show for them. Are they going to be in their late 40s still on this 16 and pregnant show? how sad.
Nah, they don’t have to have more babies to stay on the show. The only financial benefit to having a baby on the show is that MTV gives THE BABY A couple thousand dollars to start a 529 college savings plan. The parents will have no access to it and the kid can’t access it until age 18.
I feel so sorry for the baby. Amber has borderline personality disorder which is very difficult treat, especially when the patient doesn’t listen to doctor’s advice (not uncommon with that personality disorder.) I try not to get worked up over these people who are strangers but it pisses me off that Amber sits in bed all day or travels and doesn’t see her daughter who seems like a really lovely little girl.
We don’t know much about the new guy but they seem like two sinking ships. We’ll see more but I doubt he’s in, “recovery”; it appears he’s just cut back on his drugs/drink of choice. He’s in his 30’s and still lives in, “The family home”. Please.
Amber keeps dating the same guy, he just has a different face.
Caitlynn was home two and a half weeks.
She’s going back for medicine change and Childhood Trauma.
She’s going for six weeks.
I’m just curious what they dealt with the past time she was in there during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Wouldn’t childhood trauma and medication be able to be treated at home?
Depression meds have a really low rate of being effective. The general practice is to keep switching you until something works or until you give up trying. Coming off one depression med and starting a new one is a crazy making process in itself, so if she can afford to do that in a rehab where they can give her Xanax or something to help keep her evened out in the transition that is a good thing.
Contrary to what eDub said, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps isn’t usually possible when you are in a severe depression. Getting medically supervised medication changes is the best thing she could be doing for herself,
Thanks TT, that makes total safe sense.
What a difficult path. I guess seeing how Amber is dealing with her depression is quite different than Caitlynn.
I hope Caitlynn can benefit greatly these six weeks.
I didn’t mean it to come off that way. I know how hard it can be. I guess I was trying to get across, outside of rehab, what kind of tools does she use or been equipped with to deal with that darkness that creeps up on you? I would hope that they teach her this or give her resources for when she is back at home, but I just do not see her taking advantage or using those things. But, then again, we only see a little bit and that little bit just looks like she lets it take over again and again. Hopefully it gets better as she gets older and learns more about herself or whenever this show is taken off air.
SQUIRREL!!
Didn’t they end teen mom a long time ago? What made them bring it back?
I really appreciate that you took the time to explain that to people. Depression and especially suicidal ideation are difficult to understand unless you’ve been through it. It’s hell going on off/meds; believing THIS is the one and then several months later (after you’ve gained a ton of weight) it stops working and it’s back to square one.
I heard that after Monday’s show that she had a miscarriage so that might be why she went back to the rehab of her choice, and I had thought the same thing, that maybe she had lost the baby and she couldn’t cope with it. I feel bad for her but getting pregnant when you aren’t really ready is not going to make up for other things going on in their marriage, if they want so bad try adoption… makes more sense, seeing as how they gave one up for a better life and now they can take in and foster and then possibly adopt who knows. And she can still work on herself, she really needs to get on some exercise program it would do her a world of good, riding horses is fine but she also needs something to work on her body as well, she is such a pretty girl, always was and having more babies is not doing them any favors, and I don’t want to see them break up either. There should be a def. cut off age for these girls. otherwise they are just having more babies, more tatts and going on great holidays, must be nice.
Yes! She did have a miscarriage and that is why she went back to the rehab place because she was suicidal. She also told everyone even Nova that she was pregnant and made a huge deal out of it.
Also, She had to relive everything at the end of filming if she had not done her interviews and voice overs yet. So basically show would have had to say things like how excited she is to be pregnant. Perhaps Tyler did those his season. That would have been very hard. At the very least one of them is going to have to talk about losing the baby.
I haven’t seen the latest episode yet.
God, Amber is a piece of shit. I used to have sympathy for her.
Mackenzie acts as if she is on something along with Ryan. Her maniacal laugh with the dead eyes during the invite conversation was very odd.
It’s interesting to see the difference in Farrah’s demeanor when she is with Dad and girlfriend vs Debra. Totally different person when she is speaking with Michael, almost normal. Debra on the other hand another story totally.
Amber’s segment was so staged.
All in all this was a boring episode.
That laugh was about Maci-she thinks she pulled one over on her re’ the wedding invite. She’s really fucked up.
I laughed my head off when I saw Farrah on the beach dressed like Jessica Rabbit at a porn convention! Seeking attention, girl? How did she think she was going to keep her mom and Michael apart, and why? Everyone was very civil, which seemed to piss Farrah off. Plus, when little Sophie saw Farrah picking on Debra again, she rolled her eyes and looked disgusted. That poor child is going to be ruined by her mother’s bitchiness and absolute willingness to make her child her pawn. Evil.
Amber is beyond nuts and is very sly. Has it been decided if the child she’s pregnant with is Andrew’s? You never know with her. Thank God Gary’s around to keep an eye on his daughter. Without him, she’d be plain out of luck.
Catelynn’s problems won’t be solved easily. To start with I fully believe she and Tyler regret putting Carly up for adoption with every bone on their bodies. They see how much she looks like Catelynn, and see the other Teen Moms making it, and I think they have a lot of resentment at the circumstances which made them believe adoption was the better choice. It must be so hard for the adoptive parents when they see how invested Catelynn and Tyler still are, almost as though they believe they’re still the parents. Probably why they cut the visits back so much. Deciding to have her IUD taken out, without telling Tyler first, was one of the stupidest decisions Catelynn has made. You’re depressed and suicidal, so you want another baby. Plus, you’re smoking on the way to the doctor’s office. Way to go! A baby won’t take the pain away. I wish her well, but I don’t think she’ll do well until Carly is old enough to visit them and be a part of their family. Hope she does OK.
Ryan and MacKenzie are a mess. Didn’t realize what a nasty piece of work MacKenzie was until this last episode. Very passive-aggressive. Ryan is far from clean and sober, and I feel bad for his parents. They love him, which makes it hard to see him clearly for what he is. I know, because I have a similar situation in my family with a grandson. I keep helping him and it makes no difference, yet it’s very hard not to. I’m practicing tough love right now and it’s killing me. They seem to have a lot more money than I do, and that keeps Ryan afloat and looking more successful than he is. Maci is so much better off without him.
I don’t get it with these women continuing to pop out babies with guys who are completely unsuitable and whom they barely even know. Amber, for example, shouldn’t you decide if you even like a new guy before you have a child with him? Use birth control, girl! And Catelynn – what will another baby bring to your life but more stress and possible post-partum depression. A baby never solved any problems – as beautiful as they are, it’s a lot more work and responsibility. You shouldn’t even think about removing your birth control until you get your life in order. It’s not fair to you, Tyler, Nova or the new baby. Hopefully, she won’t get pregnant, especially if she’s on a lot of meds.
What if Carly doesn’t want to be a part of Tyler and Cate’s “family”?
Yes, why would she? They are strangers to her and will always be. How about Tyler and Cait concentrate on their own daughter instead of sticking her in daycare and pawning her off on relatives.
You know, it never entered my head that she wouldn’t want to. Catelynn and Tyler made it sound as though Carly was attached at the hip with Nova during their last visit, but since we didn’t see footage, that could just be wishful thinking on their part. I guess I was going by what they used to show of their visits years ago. They do have long delays between trips now, so you both have valid points.
Little Girls and a lot if little boys love to play with babies and toddlers maybe they like being the older child. Children can be very attentive and protective of little ones. If I were Catelyn, I wouldn’t read too much into it carly never sees them. As a child she may be very curious but the relationship is probably more like that of an aunt & uncle. She knows her her Mom and Dad are. I wonder if their placement counsler is trying to help them understand that they are in no way the parents
Hang in there with the tough love. It must be heart-breaking but It WILL help. Trust me I’m in recovery since my 20’s and i’m 54 now. I had to live at a Salvation Army Recovery Center for 6 months because my family told everyone not to take me in. it SUCKED but it was the best thing for me. I worked there for 40 hours a week and made $8.00 a week (yes! a week) plus food and a room. You’re doing the right thing. I suggest you try an Al-Anon meeting, it would really give you support from really kind people (so welcoming and non-judgmental) who know exactly what you’re going through. Best wishes.
I think most of the moms used the Marina implant, not IUDs.
They showed the implant from her arm.
I wish speedy healing for those of you with injuries, boots, etc.
MIRENA is an IUD
I think what Caitlyn had removed was from her arm.. One such device is Nexplanon, but they didn’t mention what she was on.
As for Carly, even if she didn’t want contact with her bio parents, she probably will want to know her siblings. And since there is a very public record being made, she won’t have to do much research.
By the way, I hope those in blogs for injuries will heal quickly. Tried to post that last night but it was rejected as a duplicate post.
For Cait, depression is often a tough nut to crack, and she appears to have been plagued with it from an early age. I just hope she is working with legitimate professionals and not people only there to get as much money as possible from her or insurance or MTV.
“Apparently, it hurts to have an IUD removed.” True and in addition, an IUD is not 100% reliable.
I had my first IUD “installed” in the early ’70s and believe it was called a Lippes Loop. The intense pain began immediately from the moment the device was inserted and it felt similar to toxic shock syndrome from a tampon being inserted improperly. The pain was so intense that I had to call my roommates to pick me up and take me home afterwards, which I was not expecting to have to do. Fortunately, at the time I was living with two close male friends who took excellent care of me throughout the ordeal.
Spent the next couple of days in bed before going back to the doctor who diagnosed me with a UTI and pelvic infection for which I believe I was prescribed antibiotics. Eventually, things settled down and it became somewhat more comfortable.
However, two months later I discovered I was pregnant and it was ectopic. At that point I was told that an actual abortion wouldn’t be necessary because the removal of the IUD would automatically terminate the pregnancy. It was such a relief to hear that because I, of course, did not want to have to have an abortion. Unfortunately, it turned out that that wasn’t true. The IUD was removed at my doctor’s office and, although the pain was nowhere near as intense as when it was inserted, it was still quite significant. A week or two later I had to have an abortion.
TT, the novels with all the personal dramas seems very…familiar. Are they sneaking back in?
I don’t see any novels. I’m interested in the IUD stories. I had been lead to believe that it was a quick and painless option that is better for the pill.
I enjoy ON TOPIC personal stories like this. It’s the constant “I can only afford half a taco this week” stories from people that reject help that most annoyed me.
I’ve never commented here before, although I’ve been a reader for years. I love your recaps and they are the best part of my day at work since I read them on my lunch break. I figure it’s time to come out of my shell and join the game. I’ve had two IUD’s and getting them put in was certainly painful, especially if you’ve never had a child (which I haven’t), but taking them out was a piece of cake, no pain at all. I actually pulled my first one out myself (it was a total mistake and a story that makes me look particularly stupid so maybe not something to share in my first comment lol). I had Paragard which is all copper with no hormones, since I don’t react well to most hormonal birth control. It was horrid, it causes almost nonstop bleeding and cramps that I imagine rival labor pains that last for days at a time. It looked like Paraguard was the IUD Catelynn uses so she may have wanted it out for more reasons than just to get pregnant again.
Remember that “Oh My God “ moment when Kroy removes Kim’s IUD. That finished Tardy for me, there are parts of your real life that I don’t need to know.
Hi Twilly………..If you’re referring to me, I thought I was just confirming to TT that IUDs can be very painful and can cause a whole raft of problems. I’ve been posting here under the same name since TT started her blog and, although I’m not a regular, i’ve been doing NO sneaking in or out. As far as commiserating with EDub, I’m sorry to hear that you don’t approve but you could just bypass the comments that you object to. i admit that I am verbose but I’ll try to be more concise, if I remember to do so, that is.
I was hoping MTV would show Ryan’s cheating scandal from over the summer since they were filming when it happened, but I guess not. That sucks.
I agreed with Maci’s friend when Maci showed her how the wedding invitation was addressed to only Maci and Bentley. She was right, shame on them.
Farrah has a sister a couple years older named Ashley. She was on really early seasons and treated Deb like shit too. They don’t have the same father though. It’s because of this I guess Farrah has always referred to her dad by his name, Michael, because that’s what Ashley called him. Even though that reason is dumb as hell.
I hadn’t heard about him cheating. Geez, he just keeps checking off all the boxes on the Dreamboat check list, doesn’t he. Why is Mack so desperate??
I was really wanting to see Mackenzie’s reaction to Ryan sending dick pics to girls on chat sites and trying to set up a rendezvous behind Food City!!!
I’m thinking the Food City meet-ups are actually genius, it’s a built in excuse. Anytime you want to get some strange, all you have to do is find something around the house that you’re out of (beer most likely). Not only is it the perfect alibi and excuse to get out of the house, but you look like a sweetheart for running errands so your lovely wife doesn’t have to.
Farrah has a half sister from her mother’s second marriage (I forgot her name). They’ve only showed her a couple of times, if I remember correctly, she has a volatile relationship with Debra as well. She’s just as charming, pleasant, & respectful as Farrah.
Farrah’s half sister, Ashley is actually older than Farrah…
To quote Jenelle’s mom Barbara,pointing at Ryan…high ! After watching this episode there is no doubt left that Mack flat out lied at the last OG reunion when she acted so innocent about Ryan’s drug use. She is a nut job in my opinion as well as thirsty to be a cool girl on tv. Not including Tyler in the wedding ( which is stupid, they are already married) was just petty and uncalled for. She is showing everyone just what kind of person she is beneath the pretty exterior. Amber going so long without contacting her Booboo was a well hidden secret by MTV until of late. No wonder Gary is so leery of Amber. Farrah ,in my opinion, has good reason to be agitated with her mom. But letting it rub off on her daughter is something she will live to regret. Cait and Tyler are boring and depressing. I fast forward thru their portion of the show. I can get depressed all by myself without any help from them. Thank you for hanging in there and still recapping this crap show.