I totally forgot this show was on. This isn’t that unusual for me, but now I realize it is because it has been two weeks since the last episode. Checking that link to refresh my memory, I see we left off at Siggy’s retreat.
Let’s remember that Siggy set up this retreat because she thinks she is a relationship specialist, and she chose to go first in this little session to as the divorce lawyer said, “tell one other person what is wrong with them.” That’s always a dialogue for open communication everywhere. Pick someone who you would like to tell what is wrong with them. Some of these storylines where the person with the worst relationships declares herself a relationship expert and everyone goes along with it as if it is normal, boggle my mind. As Melissa says, “This type of role-playing is not going to result in a happy ending.” That is probably Melissa best line on RHONJ.
Siggy makes everything about her ONCE AGAIN and retells the story about the names she was called when she was a child. Okay all of you, out there. Raise you hand if you were NEVER called names as a child. Raise them high so I can count them. Thank you. There were three hands raised and those people were lying. This is the most bizarre behavior I have ever heard. I do not have the energy to recap this role-playing shit. Sorry, not sorry.
We flash back to 2009 when Danielle confronts Teresa for flipping the table and calling her a prostitution whore in front of her teen and pre-teen daughter. Danielle gets Teresa to agree to apologize to her girls so they can be on camera get closure.
Joe Gorga takes Milania go-kart racing and talks to her about her visions of her grandmother cooking in the kitchen. Milania says her death doesn’t really feel real. She feels like she is just in the hospital. It’s weird. I think a lot of grown ups have felt that way before too.
In the final group share, Margaret cries about being alienated from her step children. Teresa continues to lay the groundwork for her divorce.
Back in Jersey we find out that Peggy has her groove back with Michael since getting her butt pellets. Teresa lets us know she hasn’t visited Joe in three months. Siggy tells Teresa she needs to let her emotions out. I believe that would require Teresa to have some emotions. The only one I’ve ever seen is anger. Is entitlement an emotion?
Dolores is having a dog charity of some sort. At least that is the storyline. It looks more like they are going to an event set up by some animal shelter. The good news is Teresa is afraid of dogs so she should be miserable the entire time. Don’t they have a dog that they dye different colors at their house? Am I hallucinating that memory? It seems like it might just be big dogs.
At the dog event, Danielle tells Margaret that she thinks that Siggy mended her relationship with her at the retreat just to make herself look like a good relationship expert and that it is not genuine. Margaret says she could be right and only time will tell. Meanwhile, Melissa plants seeds with Siggy that Danielle is stirring the pot about the veracity of her reconciliation with Margaret. Dolores and Siggy don’t really care what Danielle is up to these days and make that clear to Melissa and Teresa.
Dolores says her next charity event is Kim D’s Posche Fashion Show. Of course Melissa and Teresa mock the whole thing and basically say it is a scam. Actually, it is a benefit for the two guys who were murdered in her son’s car. It has come out that the gruesome deaths were execution killings by some sort of NJ mafia types as revenge for squealing to the cops about some other crime/murder that happened. They were shot at close range and then the car was set on fire. Apparently, they had kids and the fundraiser was for the children. Only in New Jersey. Siggy and Dolores are both walking in the fashion show but they have not told Teresa yet. Teresa of course announces that she is not going. Margaret says she will go, she doesn’t know Kim D. but she likes to support charities. Teresa says the reason she is not going is because last time she went Kim D. told her that her husband was cheating on her. Kim D. was right, and she is likely right again when she tells Dolores and Siggy that Teresa is cheating on Joe. Teresa draws a firm line in the sand and says that she doesn’t think her friends should go.
Melissa meets with Margaret to discuss how Melissa can improve her business. This is all a bullshit scene for the reason for the group trip to Milan.
Siggy and Dolores got to Posche to pick out their looks for the fashion show with Kim D. Siggy sticks up for Teresa with Kim D. She says she should not have mentioned the rumors of Joe cheating while Teresa was in prison doing time for 41 felonies. Siggy says she is working hard to support her kids now and has been through a lot. Kim D. says she hasn’t seen her doing anything. She says Teresa is out a clubs rekindling old flames. Dolores says there are no old flames because Joe is the only person Teresa has ever been with. Kim D. promises it is not a rumor and they will all find out about it. Dolores and Siggy both say they have to tell Teresa what she is saying. Kim D. says she is happy that Teresa is moving on.
Cut to a dinner with everyone at some fancy restaurant that is about to be destroyed. But first, everyone has to be invited to Milan. Maybe Teresa can look for a place for Joe to live while she is there! Fun fact, Teresa almost missed the trip to Milan because her father was in the hospital. In her book she talks about how pissed she was at Joe during this time because he kept calling her and asking her where she was and who she was with. Sounds like heard the rumors just like Kim D. Apparently, he was interfering with her new social life.
Siggy then just blurts out that she and Dolores are walking in the Posche fashion show. She really needs to work on how to deliver her lines if she wants to come back next season. Dolores tells Teresa what Kim D said about her cheating. Teresa of course over reacts, a sign of guilt, and screams at Dolores and Siggy for not defending her, when they did defend her. Dolores accidentally says to Teresa “if it is true” and then catches herself and backs up, but not before Teresa hurls a wine glass at a brick wall. Dolores and Teresa both stand up to have a screaming match. I am not listening to them because I am watching Danielle whose face is filled with pure glee. Mission accomplished. Teresa’s friendships are being destroyed and Teresa is going to have to apologize to her daughters on camera. Danielle is getting everything she ever wanted this season. She could not be happier. Dolores and Siggy storm out together. Lines in the sand have been crossed. Ha! Right after I typed that Danielle screams after them, “Lines in the sand have been crossed, have a nice time ladies.” Teresa says she is going to the fashion show to confront Kim D. Danielle tells Melissa they will go in there like fucking Charlies Angels plus one and points to Margaret. And they will all be there because the call sheets have already been emailed. Suddenly, they are all laughing.
Next week: Marge Sr has a date and talks about getting another tattoo in a very private place. Teresa and Joe talk to a psychic about their mother. You can bet she will talk about Milania’s visions. How stupid was I to not realize that was a produced storyline. They literally have a kid lying about dead grandma. And it will end with what I’ve been told is one of the biggest Posche Fashion Show Brawls ever.
BREAKING NEWS!
When I went to pull photos for this article, there was some information in my emails regarding Teresa’s father. According to these sources, Teresa’s father was hospitalized today. No word on what the issue is exactly. However, it must be serious because Teresa was scheduled to be on WWHL tonight and Danielle Staub will be appearing in her place. Danielle Staub just keeps on getting exactly what she wants tonight!
Great episode tonight, I hope Teresa’s father feels better and pulls through.
Just want to point out when Danielle was crying about how her daughters were hurt when Teresa called her a ‘Prostitution Whore’, moments prior, Dina, Jaqueline, and Caroline practically begged Danielle to remove her daughters from the room.
So Tre is out cruising New Jersey huh? Can’t say that I blame her.
I LOVE Kim D!
This season is just a hot mess.
I appreciate you might love Kim D for the drama that she brings to RHONJ…..there’s a saying “you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig” – Kim D happens to wear lipstick
I couldn’t even make it through 20 minutes before I had to come here.
I can’t believe Danielle is still crying about the prostitution who’re comment. And boo boo it was said in front of her daughters. The daughters that the others tried to get out of the room once crazy Danielle took out the book but she wanted them there. Then they didn’t even work as the shield she was hoping they would.
Teresa and her deserve each other.
Exactly! She’s had years to plot her revenge. She’s kinda evil, like there’s just something missing inside.
I am not a Teresa fan at all but I hope her father pulls thru. Looks like its being reported as pneumonia which is what her mother died from. Her daughters have been thru enough. Danielle actually looks great on WWHL
A few episodes ago I mentioned Teresa’s father dying soon from a broken heart. NOW BEFORE THE HATERS GET TO TYPING I would NEVER want him to die. I DO get it when it comes to loosing your partner suddenly. My husband died on December 16, 2015 suddenly. We both thought he had the flu that morning I tucked him in made him comfortable and went to another part of our house. I told him I would be back in a few hours and when I came back I IMMEDIATELY knew he was gone. I did not stop screaming for 2 days. It was it is the worst time in my life and I still have not really gotten back to “normal”. I was married to this man for 25+ years, we lived together for 5 years before we got married, he was half of my heart and soul and honestly I thought of just ending my own life because living without my husband seemed almost impossible. I understand Teresa’s fathers tears and his sorrow and now that it appears he is sick my guess is he is DONE, he is not going to fight to live. He just wants to be with the love of his life, this world is not the same without his love. Even with children and grandchildren, his first love is not with him. If he does pass away I will light a candle and say a prayer for him and the entire family. Some of what Teresa and her family are going through is a direct result of Teresa’s actions, she is guilty of fraud but the death of her mom and now it appears her dad is also getting ready to go be with his wife, now that is something out of Teresa’s control and I feel bad for her, her children, brother and entire family.
So very sorry for your loss. Sounds lame, I’m sure, and I wish there was something more meaningful that would come to mind. I know exactly what you mean. My grandfather, who we believed was healthy as an ox simply lost his will to go on without my grandmother, and we lost him shortly after her death. Wishing you the best.
I am so very sorry for your loss! I was still living at home when my dad died unexpectedly and had to watch the terrible process of my mother become a widow. She too screamed for days. A pain and sound so primal I can hardly bare to think of it. When one goes through that, you have sympathy for others in their time of hardship no matter what. I loathe Teresa but I feel for her lonely father. When Vicki lost her mother on OC and her knees buckled underneath her at the news, I sobbed. I think it was the only real thing Bravo ever broadcast, hard as it was to view. The saddest part in all of this are the 4 innocent kids whose family disintegrated the last few years.
Ahh Merlkie, with you girl about the pain, you actually feel the pain from deep inside.
So strange how emotional pain is actually felt physically. You are woman, you will roar again.
Yes Grandpa could die from a broken heart. I doubt Teresa actions help him much.
TT great recap and yes Danielle has plotted this revenge on Teresa. I think Delores and Siggy understand what Danielle is doing.
Teresa is still immature thinking her friends should hate who she hates. Plus she still blames others for repeating what they heard, who does that? I may not like what I hear but I appreciate being told.
I cant watch so I appreciate your recap being here.
It’s a true medical condition called Broken Heart Syndrome and I’m so sorry for your loss. Prayers
fuck you. fuck you for saying that ANYONE is ‘DONE’. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying someone is dead before they take their last breath! Wow.
I too loved Danielle’s face when Teresa threw the wine glass and the fight ensued. They are playing right into her hands.
Does anybody know if they all end up going to Italy? If so that will be one fun trip.
Hope Teresa’s dad feels better. He doesn’t deserve any of this.
Love the line about Teresa scoping out a place for Joe to live in Milan. Love it!
Of course they all go, it’s the all cast trip.
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/10/26/rhonj-got-thrown-out-of-restaurant-while-on-milan-trip/
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/05/10/rhonj-in-milan-filming-what-not-to-wear/
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/05/09/look-out-milan-the-rhonj-have-descended-on-your-city/
Excellent recap, TT. You nailed this one. Danielle is probably right about Siggy and the retreat. Siggy is screaming in a pillow right now. Danielle does want camera time for her girls, otherwise she’d expect an apology for Teresa chasing her around a ballroom.
Thought Joe Gorga was so sweet to Milania. If Teresa is running around then those kids are raising themselves. Hope Mr. Gorga gets well soon.
Was it just me or did Kim D have something going on with her eyes?
I think Kim D had a full face lift.
help me understand something–Danielle said she was called a prostitution whore before Teresa meaning that wasn’t the first time? Or was she saying people started calli her that after Teresa said it?
And I hate unqualified people trying to do group therapy it’s just all kinds of reckless irresponsible behavior
Cop Without a Badge I think is the title of the book that defined Danielle as a prostitution coke whore. Teresa was repeating what she heard Caroline or Dina or even Jaqueline say about Danielle. Danielle could have had her girls leave the room before the infamous table flip/definition of Danielle but she made the decision to keep them in the room. I don’t think this was the first time ANY of the people in that dining room had heard Danielle described as a prostitution coke whore or engaged 19 times. it is just something Danielle can use now to make herself relevant.
I 110% agree with you regarding amateur group therapy. It is dangerous to share intimate issues without a trained therapist in the mix. They are playing with fire especially when some of the participants in that group do have psychological issues in need of intensive psychotherapy.
Thank you for your amazing comment and explanation. I see we are on the same page about the “retreat”
It just makes a mockery of actual group therapy which done correctly can be transformative
I’m glad Siggy isn’t actually licensed in anything just a self promoting expert
The whole “group therapy” that the two nitwits thought should just be started with the directive “everyone share something deeply personal about yourself with these people you don’t even like” was just too stupid to mention. The whole retreat crap was just really poor writing around the venue they had secured.
It was insulting to the entire world of people who seriously attempt to provide assistance to people with emotional, psychological or physical problems. It is not an exact science, but there are many scientific, medical and psychological principles involved, all of which require training and experience, none of which was evident in the actions and words of those two idiots. It was both offensive and scary to watch- and very dangerous.
I truly do not believe Siggy even knows enough to know that. She is way too self involved, believing she is the most talented person in the world, and that she should make enough money from it to pay for college for her kids.
Siggy seemed the most excited about selling her home made looking tshirts and hats with her lame slogans on them. The whole retreat was laughable and I truly hope the other partipants were production plants and did not pay for that crap.
I forgot too and fast forwarded through most. This show has gone down the shitter. Teresa the consummate liar and chief, OG of the revisionist history and sadly people buy into that shit. Not surprised her father is in hospital, it’s so difficult after a spouse dies, prayers to Mr. Gorga and the girls.
Where does Dolores get her tan? Did anyone catch that? I miss Carolyn so bad. Did Margaret use an anti Semitic slur at dinner????
At dinner Siggy said she judges a person by the way they treat her and she doesn’t care how they treat anyone else. Margaret replied, “Hitler wouldn’t have killed me. Does that make him a nice person?”
What a narcissist (Siggy).
TT please. Yoya hows the baby, what is his personality like?
Isn!t it funny how the little one controls everything now.
I like your style. What did she say about Jews? I am Jewish and would like to know what you think she said.
Everyone else might of forgotten about Danielle Staubs twenty plus minute sex tape released online several years ago. But Pepperidge farm’s remembers… And if I am not mistaken her co-star was her neighbor and much younger than her. Classic Marge!
Hope he gets better, Mr Gorga has been through a fair bit
Did y’all catch Andy Cohen’s glee on Twitter, wetting his pants over this episode because “the old Teresa is back”? Given the current climate, you’d think he’d dial back the misogyny, but nope.
I had secondhand embarrassment all the way through this episode. It’s like the brains of at least 4 of these women tick a beat slower than that of a normal functioning human. The amateur dramatics and production-induced theatrics feel boring – none of it is organic or real, and I was so bored when Teresa was screeching at Dolores that I realized I couldn’t even remember what she was mad about.
Dolores and Margaret remain the most “real” and watchable, of course. They indulge some of the fakery, but they seem like they’re mostly being honest and only engaging in arguments when they’re genuinely feeling some type of way (instead of starting drama for screen time). Dolores was damn smart not to open up at Siggy’s therapy session – why would she share a secret with women who will just use it against her at a later date? You just know that nasty piece of work Dannielle is bound to throw the stepkids thing back in Margaret’s face at some point before the reunion, so Dolores was smart not to give any of them that kind of opportunity.
I agree 100% with your post Johnny! As for Dolores not opening up at the retreat that was smart in more ways in one because not only would be used against her but she sees that her friend Siggy is simply not qualified for these “sessions” anyway and so it was way for her to support her friend and not give red meat to the wolves.
The only ones I like this season are Melissa, Margaret and Dolores, the rest can go except I must say Danielle is doing what she was hired to do and is the best equipped to deal with Kim D because only Danielle can sink to the levels it takes to deal with her.
I’m watching this show, sort of…. My thoughts: (1) these women don’t appreciate a nice glass of red wine, (2) none of the patrons seemed to react the the wine glass shattering, (3) the restaurant was basically empty except for the extras by the ladies’ table (it’s a popular restaurant in Montclair) and (4) Siggy was possibly wearing the same dress she had on in Boca in the cake throwing scene, but with a black jacket. It’s really tight on her butt. Sadly, these are my takeaways from this show. Still enjoy It, but perhaps I have a problem. I need a better scripted series.
This show…I am fast forwarding through the season. Agree that it just is a mish-mosh. Editing has me baffled. From explanation of a Bar/Bat Mitzvah (oy!) headlong into the fashion show scream fest.
I noticed no one flinched at the wine glass shatter, either! The viciousness of the fighting! Hell, there is not enough money to sit through that as a cast member.
Every one of them (allegedly) looks so different from plastic surgery or botox. Especially, Melissa, who looks like a mannequin.
Teresa’s dog is Bella.
Wondering what is Margaret’s motive for being on this show. I really like her as a person.
Teresa having to explain the Bat Mitzvah to Melissa was like the dumb leading the dumber. That might have been the funniest moment of the entire season, because it was one of the few that felt genuine!
It did feel real, and real stupid at the same time. Funny, awkward indeed.
Why don’t these women use google before the scene starts?
Oh damn, I have watch this now. I love when Teresa or Kim Z. attempt to speak intelligently. When Kim said she knows all about wine and she never heard of a sommelier’
That was so good it has me smiling weeks later.
I love Margaret being referred to as Ellie May Clampet!! I am forever going to refer to Margaret as Ellie May, the pig tails just have to go or someone should push her into the C-ment pond.
I was going to comment on the complete lack of reaction to the wine glass throwing too! There was restaurant staff in the background and he didn’t even flinch, no one came to clean up or ask them to take it down a notch…what the what?
Teresa, no matter what is said, you have got to respect your daughters at all times! She just continues to put them in positions that will shame and embarrass them! Regardless if there is truth to the rumors or not, just DON’T play !
Probably a sound effect edited in later. Shady “reality” TV tactics.
TT, loved your comments and laughed out loud at a number of them I have only you as a source that Teresa is possibly cheating on him or that Joe did before he “went away”( how ridiculous a phrase that they all use) , but I believe it. It makes all this just that much more fictionalized and unbelievable.
Margaret appeared to be the only woman in the place with a brain working at normal speed, great comment above. Other than Danielle, who clearly does have a mind that loves larceny/causing trouble/hurting people/lying endlessly. That look in her eyes is unsettling at best.
It
s the mindlessness that bothers me, though; the endless set of scenes with zero impact because they are a façade. The stupidity that reigns throughout, from the idiocy in every single word out of Siggy/Ziggy/, to Joe with MIlania- the girls have far more sense and grasp on reality than Joe does, as he pretends he can be (begs to be on screen) a source of wisdom and advice for her. Margaret is fresh and gamely attempts to do as asked any producers, but most of it is so fake. As TT said, it is such a farce that the woman who has ZERO-ZILCH idea how to handle any of her own relationships and is completely self-indulgent and narcissistic pretends she can tell anyone how to do anything, let alone give advice to. That she and that loser woman divorce attorney now think they can run retreats is so stupid as to be not worth the words.
A show that is devolving by the week.
“Devolving” is the perfect word.
You are correct! No impact from all tbe screaming. No consequences.
Why would anyone participate in group therapy like that? Oh, yes, a paycheck.
Okay, WTF is Teresa talking about when she said : “Italians don’t show emotion?” I live (once again) in the town where I grew up– a suburb of Chicago that is full of Italians (also Jewish folks) and that is BULLSHIT! As a minority Irish girl, I was always jealous of all the hugging and kissing going on in my Italian and Jewish friends’ families! I think what Teresa meant was :”We don’t hang out our dirty laundry until somebody goes “AWAY” And then we LIE about it! ” And THAT is true! ?
Love this recap, I don’t always agree with your take away but this one is on target, Danielle is getting her revenge and everything she wants
I havent watched this in years. I refuse to support the felon who still can’t take responsibility and her vapid sister in law. I read the blog and know that I am right. Instead of bringing Danielle back, why not find a cast who fit the original concept of the show (sans Danielle of course)
Da Fuq? Didn’t you, Tamara Tattles, specifically tell us, your audience, that we would have to wait until the season finale to see the Posche fashion show confrontation? Where on earth do you get your ‘sources’? Do you just make shit up?
Please. Explain.
NOPE, not sure where you got that from.
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/05/05/kim-d-throws-a-chair-at-danielle-teresa-giudice-goes-off-on-kim-d/
The all cast trip always comes at the end, And I posted repeatedly about the women all being pissed with each other on the trip to Milan.
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/05/09/look-out-milan-the-rhonj-have-descended-on-your-city/
Go ahead and point out to me where I said that the Posche Fashion show was the finale. Or where I said I had great sources for RHONJ. I’ll wait.
I have to admit I don’t really watch Bravo anymore your recaps are far more entertaining.
I also feel sorry for Teresa’s daughters.
Did anyone catch Delores smile when Siggy was yelling in the change room and Kim D was talking? the camera quickly cut away. Such a fake storyline. Even when Theresa threw the glass the waiters in the background didnt flinch. Almost like they were warned it would happened. I felt like it was such a contrived storyline. Even Delores Slip up “it you did..” seemed contrived. All Fake..