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You are here: Home / Entertainment News / Real Housewives of Orange County: Candle Wicks And Lunatics

Real Housewives of Orange County: Candle Wicks And Lunatics

November 13, 2017 by tamaratattles 97 Comments

It’s the last season of this shit show, and boy have we had a lot of fun complaining about it. Let’s get right to it.

Vicki and her partners meet with her son Michael to tell him they have decided to replace a current board member with him. What does that mean? They are throwing someone else off the board for him? He seems as confused as I am.  Vicki tells him that this is a really big deal. They are grooming him for the vice president position. Michael has never really wanted this job.

Kelly and Jolie want to give Kelly’s mom a makeover. Or at least Bravo does, because they sent in a team from Priv. It is the finale episode of the season and we are watching someone’s sixty-eight year old mom get a makeover. I am not making this up. Kelly tells her newly painted mother that she can’t deal with Michael anymore. He’s nice one minute and mean the next. Thus the divorce.

Tamra is going to her daughter’s graduation. So of course she is talking about it on TV. She’s going with her son, who I barely recognized. He looks ill. Things do not go well. 

Meghan is launching her line of… candles and stuff. She wants us to know she can still be a wife and work after having a kid. It’s a super OTT event with all sorts of servers and luges and ice sculptures. I’m not sure how ice displays and candles is going to work, but whatever. Let’s just get through this. The Voice is REALLY good tonight and I am anxious to watch the second hour. 

Is this a goodbye montage for Shannon? She show her fighting with every new girl to ever come on the show, and her awkward limo ride with David. Eventually, both divorcing couples share a limo to the candle party. Shannon and David recently called it quits as well.  Shannon is not slowing down her drinking thought and slammed back a few vodkas in the limo and her feet dad not even it the lawn at the candle party before she turned to David and asked, “Are they not going to have vodka here?”

We get even more flashback scenes when Tamra and Eddie arrive at the party, because this is where their lavish wedding was held. Finally, a very crabby Peggy arrives with Diko followed close behind by Vicki and Steve.

Peggy hasn’t seen anyone since Iceland. Tamra has heard a word from Vicki since Iceland. This is going to be one giant fiasco. To top it off, Tamra says that there were no negative stories about her while she was in Iceland but the minute they are back there are mean stories about her and her family on some site that is close to Vicki. Even more flashbacks of the history of Tamra and Vicki. Tamra is done with Vicki.

Oh wait. Now it appears that Peggy took Meghan and Lydia to lunch so that she could apologize to Meghan for last week when she criticized her parenting and practically accused her of child neglect. In a Trumpian manner she proclaims that what she really meant was that Meghan is a good mother.

Even more flashback footage.

Round One: Kelly versus Peggy. Kelly tells Peggy she was drunk when she made the comment about her dad calling Peggy’s dad and she wasn’t even thinking about the fact her father had recently passed. She said that she just felt like Peggy was acting like a playground child and she reacted in kind. Kelly says she doesn’t respond well to Peggy’s controlling behaviors. It seems these two are going to put a band-aid on it for now.

David asks Diko why he came after Shannon about something he said. Diko apologies to David. Tamra interrupts to apologize to Diko for calling him a little bitch. For those counting along at home that that’s three detentes. Tamra goes to Peggy smooth things over with her. Both Diko and Peggy are claiming that Diko was not acting like a little bitch by approaching Shannon alone for something her husband said. I still contend that he was. But hey so far there is a lot of stuff being swept under the rug. Enter, an already wobbly Shannon to crossed the bumpy rug. Shannon is not sweeping anything under the rug. She confronts Peggy for having the audacity to ask her if she trusts her husband. I agree with Shannon. Tamra is sticking up for Peggy! Oh this will go well. Peggy reverses her position and now admits that she did confront Shannon with fake tears about what David said to Diko. Shannon points out the ever-changing stories of Peggy and Peggy responds with, “Are you okay?”  This sends Shannon into a vodka fueled worldwind where she lands at the bar for a another Grey Goose. She calls Peggy a fucking lunatic and storms off. How the hell am I on Team Drunk Shannon at this point?

Peggy actually smirked as Shannon stormed off. Mission accomplished. Peggy is ready to make her grand exit and her husband should have let her do it. Instead, he wants to stay longer in front the cameras at the party and encourages her to talk it out with Shannon. Tamra helps push Shannon back into the ring.

Suddenly, Vicki reappears from wherever she has been hiding all night and joins Shannon and Kelly.

Then a montage of the Mrs. Roper Party.  These clips are from all the many years. Are they saying good-bye to the whole series, just in cast the casting doesn’t go well?

Everyone is now back in the circle as Peggy appears with Tamra to apologize to Shannon. Sort of. She says she feels bad if Shannon felt bad about what Diko said to her. Tamra translates, “Peggy is saying she is sorry.”  Then she actually says the words, “I apologize.”

You know what I need resolution to? Why does Peggy’s hair always look like a rat’s nest in the back? She showed off some more new jewelry at the beginning of the episode. Could she perhaps left off one piece and bought a five dollar Goody hairbrush at the Kroger? I’m serious. I do not think she has brushed the back of her head since 1989.

Kelly is drunk off her ass after gulping several tequilas so she goes up to Vicki and Michael and starts acting like an asshole. Michael walks away like a gentleman. Vicki tries to calm Kelly down and keep her from making an ass of herself. Kelly is way too far gone for that to work. Vicki tells Kelly that she needs to stay intimate with Michael. A more sober Kelly in her confessional seems sad about the split.

End Notes:

Kelly sold the beach house and has filed for divorce from Michael. Again.

Meghan has convinced Jim to have another baby. They are currently going through IVF and they are trying for a boy.

Lydia stopped taking the pill after Doug’s vasectomy. She is already ready to defrost the sperm and try for a girl.

Shannon’s rental house was sold by the owner. The have moved into separate residences.

I didn’t even realize these two were at the party until I opened my photos. This explains way Vicki disappeared for a bit.

Vicki convinced Steve to buy a vacation home with her. But she could not convince Brianna to stay in OC she and Ryan are moving to North Carolina with the boys.

Peggy’s daughters have moved out and they are attending college in LA. They still come home for food, laundry and money.

Tamra attended Sidney’s graduation and had dinner with Sidney and Simon. Shortly there after they had a falling out and are no longer speaking. 

I hated this season, so why do I feel a little bit said that it is over? What are your thoughts?

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  1. Kate says

    November 13, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    I feel sad it’s over too
    At the end there it seemed unscripted to me kind of real and honest

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  2. Sonia says

    November 13, 2017 at 11:39 pm

    It’s over, as is NO MORE RHOC or just over for the season?

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    • Winbea says

      November 14, 2017 at 12:15 am

      Is it really the last season? If so, yay!

      Reply
    • Sal says

      November 14, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      Just the last show for this season, not the OC series. It’ll be back!

      Reply
  3. samaraohara says

    November 13, 2017 at 11:40 pm

    Peggy is a gaslighter.

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    • Shae says

      November 14, 2017 at 9:37 am

      100%. She plays dumb with this ” I don’t understand English” bit, pokes at people, says outright inflammatory and insulting things, then reacts with shock and horror when they respond. I hate people like that.

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      • Sal says

        November 14, 2017 at 2:29 pm

        Agree!!

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      • Dexter says

        November 15, 2017 at 8:49 am

        Yes. She pretends she does not understand. If true she would realize she does not understand things and would not overreact like a cartoon. Where does this cultural disconnect come from? Did she just arrive from the Middle East or did she grow up here? It’s as if you said to her “you look so pretty in that dress” and she flips out saying “my dress is pretty so my face is ugly. How dare you. I never said that. Oh yes I did say that”. She is in camera saying she did not have cancer. I want to like her but I can’t. She and her husband are fake. Ugly unimpressive cookie cutter development house and hideous leased cars.

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      • Chris says

        November 17, 2017 at 3:52 pm

        I agree. Her bravo blogs are far to articulate for this charade. Plus, I was wondering how if Peggy truly doesn’t understand English and saying and terms in the English language (eg. coal at Christmas) and it’s not an act how it is still such a shock to Diko and her kids? Seems like a fake storyline to me since they have been together for over 20 years he would have experienced this from her plenty by now.

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      • Take-A-Xanax says

        November 17, 2017 at 8:58 pm

        That type of person wears on my last nerve! That type always thinks they are so clever too.

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      • Mel says

        November 28, 2017 at 7:17 pm

        Having a bobble mastectomy, and under current breast reconstruction which is very painful then you are in some very good, very expensive pain pills etc. That alone is mostly why I think Peggy was incoherent. Why she did the show in the middle of all her issues is beyond me??!

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  4. therealdeb says

    November 13, 2017 at 11:48 pm

    All of those Tamras strange crying scenes with a quivering voice and no tears always crack me up. She has no facial expressions because of all the Botox. You may be in the minority here but I love Lydia.

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    • Sliceo'pie says

      November 14, 2017 at 2:19 pm

      I like Lydia too. She’s far from perfect and can be annoying but she’s usually fun and light and owns her shit unlike Shannon.

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      • Sal says

        November 14, 2017 at 2:30 pm

        She’s a pot stirrer of the highest degree! And she’s a master at it, because she disguises it under all the faux sweetness. The most dangerous type of that kind of person.

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        • EnglishRose says

          November 14, 2017 at 3:47 pm

          You’re right, Sal. Innocence masking ridiculously good manipulative skills.

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        • shellie says

          November 14, 2017 at 4:48 pm

          This reminds me of one of my college roommates whom I had not met before moving in as a group. I was telling my aunt “she is so nice and sweet and genuine!”. My aunt said “watch out for that one”. She was 1000% right. Wolf in sheep’s clothing. I don’t feel anything authentic from Lydia. Except her glee when her mother is spending money on her.

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      • Mel says

        November 28, 2017 at 7:40 pm

        I can’t stand Lydia. Sad that all these ‘christians’ behavior is anything but Christ like… hmmmm?

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        • tamaratattles says

          November 28, 2017 at 7:50 pm

          I presume that you Mel, are the Christian measuring stick all the rest of Christianity must live up to. Welcome. There are tons of other judgmental Christian bitches here. It’s just like an East Cobb church up in here.

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          • Mel says

            November 28, 2017 at 8:10 pm

            She seems to be pretty coddled so maybe nobody has pointed it out her hypocrisy yet?

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  5. Marc says

    November 14, 2017 at 12:44 am

    Pray they kill it with fire. Unbearable cast . I won’t ever forget Peggy & Diko mailing a letter together scene. Goodbye OC Housewives

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  6. Lisaj says

    November 14, 2017 at 12:45 am

    Ciao to the bitches of the OC”!

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  7. Carti says

    November 14, 2017 at 1:09 am

    If you cross your eyes until they are blurred and dim your screen, Peggy has a weird Angelina Jolie thing going on in the above image.

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  8. mystrox says

    November 14, 2017 at 2:04 am

    Peg another lie confused Peg …Shannon is right she confuses us all. Lied about Meg being a mother Lied saying she didn’t see anyone since Iceland..she saw Lydia,Meg and forgot who else she spoke to oh Vicki cause she felt betrayed.betrayed,betrayed Oh My God . Then Vicki Lied about not liking Conflict Bull$^&! .
    I am on team Shannon and I am not her biggest fan I think she is nuts but Peg is 1 step above Shannon didn’t think it would be possible what a joke she is very ..Very pretty lady but it stamps out beauty when you are dumb The only thing I will be upset about is if they bring it back Vicki,Lydia and Peg I will no longer be a viewer.. done with those 3 witches.

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  9. Jess says

    November 14, 2017 at 3:53 am

    It has been a terrible season and mostly felt awkward to watch. I actually feel that Kelly, Vicki and Shannon are the only ones I think should stay for next season.

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  10. Janice says

    November 14, 2017 at 6:07 am

    I cannot stand Shannon anymore. She is histrionic , self-righteous, neurotic and a loud bully. I am fed up with her irrational temper tantrums.Meghan is incredibly boring and too self-satisfied. She talks about being able to do it all (wife, mother, work) but appears to have constant nanny service…that’s not the kind of privilege most women have. Tamra doesn’t really seem to have much to do. I do like Lydia and her mother – I hope they continue on. Peggy I just don’t get. I find her very confusing. Vicki is okay to watch. Kelly is okay although she is pretty bloody unstable a lot of the time. She flies off into orbit with that ridiculous temper of hers. All in all, not a great RH show.

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    • TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsYoya says

      November 14, 2017 at 10:17 am

      I hope we get to see the old Shannon now that she’s divorcing David. I expect her to feel a helluva lot better, be less bitter and angry. She’s directed all her anger at David towards Vicki, maybe now she can place it where it should be. Redemption season for Shannon next season?

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    • Sliceo'pie says

      November 14, 2017 at 6:19 pm

      Shannon’s tagline should be, “I’m DONE!!”

      Meghan just annoys the shit out of me. I find her incredibly smug too. I found her off-putting from the beginning.
      I think Kelly is probably very difficult to live with. Maybe Michael is putting his game face on for TV but he really doesn’t seem that bad to me, the age difference which didn’t bother her when they met has caught up to them. Most sixty year old men aren’t interested in partying and go out all the time. There’s no shame in that-I’m 53 and I prefer to stay in except I love to travel.
      I’m curious how Shannon will handle the separation. I got separated this year and it’s been a real roller-coaster ride of emotions and adjustments. Studying Buddhism has helped me tremendously. It will be interesting to watch how Shannon copes. I hope she cuts back on the drinking, especially for the girls. People think she’ll go back to being as she was Season 1 but I think what we’ve seen the last two seasons is the Real Shannon.

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    • Dexter says

      November 15, 2017 at 8:54 am

      Shannon needs a hair cut. About six or eight inches cut off. She’d look younger thinner and more put together. Or she’s gotta start wearing it up. And her dresses could be a few inches longer. And cover her arms.

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  11. Candid says

    November 14, 2017 at 6:51 am

    I hated Kelly’s interaction with her husband. It appears she was putting him down at every turn and with everyone she meets and this to me seems uncalled for. I hope it is editing.

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    • Patricia OSullivan says

      November 14, 2017 at 8:06 am

      You said it. Kelly always accuses her husband of her bad behavior in the moment. She acts like an asshole and accuses him of being an asshole. She embarrases herself with her mouth and accuses him of embarrassing her. She picks a fight with him every chance she gets and digs, digs and digs at him, then turns around and accuses him of doing it. What a mental patient!

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      • Dexter says

        November 15, 2017 at 8:56 am

        I don’t understand how Kelly could have been a success in business. She is so immature. I don’t see her repeating that success if she did anything else other than marrying and now divorcing a rich man.

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    • Melissa says

      November 14, 2017 at 10:40 am

      I don’t see how she could blame editing.

      She was completely out of line at the party. Making faces, all the comments. I really don’t care if she was drunk. That was blatantly out of line.

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      • Flo says

        November 14, 2017 at 3:48 pm

        He always comes across as nice and she seems like she picks fights with him. BUT did anyone else see the way he looked at Meghan when the arrived at the party? And It looked like he kissed her on the neck and she gave him a weird stare. I rewound it and I am not imagining this.

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        • Melissa says

          November 14, 2017 at 7:08 pm

          Was it a stare like “get away freak” or a stare like “I’ll talk to you later.”

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          • Flo says

            November 15, 2017 at 3:42 am

            A ‘wtf was that”? Stare

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    • Mel says

      November 28, 2017 at 7:47 pm

      I love Kelley! Men that act the way that she says her husband behaves won’t do that in public. That way the wife always looks crazy.

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  12. Michael says

    November 14, 2017 at 7:01 am

    Megan’s description of Peggy being a “poker” was dead on. She likes to take a poke at you and wait for your response. I’m glad Peggy is not coming back. Dikko bust be heartbroken over this.

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    • Patricia OSullivan says

      November 14, 2017 at 8:10 am

      I liked her and felt bad for her. I feel she was no match for the mean girls and Vicky is not a good friend. How selfish, Peggy had her back from the get go, but Vicky didn’t have Peggy’s, barf. I hope Vicky goes back to not having anyone on her side again, it would serve her right

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      • Michael says

        November 14, 2017 at 8:50 am

        Vicky is out for Vicky and couldn’t care less about Peggy’s feelings. All this bs about not wanting to get involved. When you are someone’s friend you get involved. That’s what friends do.

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  13. Anoneemouse says

    November 14, 2017 at 7:28 am

    Worst season ever of any housewives franchise. Glad it ended. It was torture to watch week after every damn week (haha).

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    • mystrox says

      November 15, 2017 at 3:40 am

      New Jersey with the twins and Jim worst year ever this is second place for me lol

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  14. Romeogirl says

    November 14, 2017 at 8:20 am

    Is Vicki’s son Michael and idiot or does he just play one on TV?

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    • Marie says

      November 14, 2017 at 11:04 am

      I think he is just so uncomfortable because he genuinely doesn’t want anything to do with the show or the insurance business. Also, he has Vicki for a mother.

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  15. AnneAN says

    November 14, 2017 at 8:21 am

    Yes, buy a brush!
    What is the deal with Peggy’s hair? It’s so distracting. Does she do her hair herself? Does she not have a comb? Maybe that’s her thing, messy hair.
    Top prize goes to the hair-do she had at the Viking restaurant in Iceland. It was am amazing construction on the back of her head. How did they get hair to do that?

    Poor Shannon, what a disaster.

    The whole season was, “what are they arguing about again?”

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    • Nope says

      November 15, 2017 at 2:08 am

      I wonder if she’s taking anything.

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  16. RealhousewifeND says

    November 14, 2017 at 8:48 am

    OC Is the original so it’s always been my fave. Shannon went off the rails as usual and she just needs to get off reality TV and get her life together. I agree that Peggy’s hair is a total rats nest and I can’t figure out why she doesn’t spend some of her money on a glam squad. I know that we are not privy to much that goes on off camera and I’m sure Michael has been a dick to Kelly but the way she treated him at the party was unbelievably bad and so embarrassing. I have to give him credit for walking away. Michael has really wanted nothing to do with Vicki’s company but he sees the rewards it has provided his mother and their lifestyle so he is sucking it up and towing the company line
    This was their worst season ever and I hope they have some total revamping of the cast but I still hope Vicki and Tamra come back. It just wouldn’t be the OC without them

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  17. Nikki says

    November 14, 2017 at 8:53 am

    This has always been my favorite franchise of the Housewives and I am thoroughly disappointed in this season!! What did we just watch?! I was waiting for something interesting to happen at the end of the season party, as it usually does, and NOTHING?! When I saw Briana and Ryan, I figured that Judy, Lydia’s mom would try and say hello and that Ryan would have his tantrum to entertain us..but nope! Very odd season..Peggy is most definitely a gaslighter and she was smirking hard when she upset Shannon again. I too am on Shannon’s side, even with her antics, she has been pinpointed as the “crazy” one this season and I feel sorry for her.

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    • Sliceo'pie says

      November 14, 2017 at 6:30 pm

      it doesn’t bother me that there wasn’t a huge argument or someone making a scene, I’m getting tired of the over the top disingenuous theatrics. If I never hear Shannon scream, “I’m done!” it will be too soon.
      I especially don’t want to see a grown man attack a grandmother. That was despicable. I think they’ve committed the bigger crime of being boring. I don’t need to see them fight all the time in order to enjoy the show, I really like the travel, beautiful houses, clothes and then the occasional argument that builds up over episodes…Remember those days?

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  18. Celestine says

    November 14, 2017 at 9:06 am

    I never want to see Peggy’s mangled mess of filthy hair again. DISGUSTING!!!! Bravo should have sent to Priv to her house.

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    • Katherine 2.0 says

      November 14, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      I watched for the first time last night, and you are right! What’s up with that rat’s nest of hers? Does she think it looks sexy, like just out of bed sexy? Or is she just challenged in the hair brushing dept? With all that cash she likes to flash, you’d think she could invest in a hairbrush and some hair products. She’s a shit starter, that one.

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  19. TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsYoya says

    November 14, 2017 at 10:28 am

    Is a new baby Meghan’s attempt at a storyline for next season? Snore.

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    • Melissa says

      November 14, 2017 at 10:36 am

      Meghan should really work on handling the one baby she already has. The “emotional burden” of two children, an absent husband, could prove to be far too much for Meghan.

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      • KathyD says

        November 14, 2017 at 11:53 am

        Meghan married Jim, knowing his very busy career. And baseball is like that. She was in the baseball biz too.
        Jim brings his kids to almost every game he announces. He keeps them in the booth and interacts with them between innings. He is teaching them to do scoring and stats.
        I agree, she has to learn to deal with one child (plus Jim’s other kids) before trying pregnancy again.
        I smell storyline too.

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  20. Melissa says

    November 14, 2017 at 10:34 am

    Kelly sold HER beach house, Bravo?

    I am all for community property but damn, Bravo. It’s a reality show. And the reality is, Kelly married a wealthy man, and stayed with him just long enough to bank some serious money. HIS money. Yeah, yeah, she worked blah blah blah. But Michael is uber rich. Let’s not pretend that Kelly bought Michael a beachfront home in Newport Beach.

    I used to like Kelly. But this season has kind of changed my mind. It didn’t help that she was a complete ass to Michael. I get that he annoys her. I get that he might be a jerk to her. But let’s be real – who would not be a jerk to someone that talks about you like that? Is she drunk all the time?

    I’ve always thought Michael was her “puppet master” and crafted her Bravo persona, told her what to say, what to tweet. She admitted he writes her blogs (or, ok, he “edits” them. Which is code for writes them, IMO).

    My guess is that Kelly implodes next season without Michael. She is someone that needs to be told how to act. And without him, we are going to see exactly what he was trying to help her conceal.

    Re — Peggy, you are right TT, her hair is awful. Most newbies have these issues in the first season. Tamra used to never brush the back of her hair. Shannon too.

    Shannon can never just let anything go gracefully can she? Peggy did lie to Tamra. But honestly, who cares? It’s not like Shannon wasn’t gossiping about Peggy not having cancer. It’s not like Peggy didn’t have damn good reasons for being hurt by Shannon. Was it worth screaming another expletive at someone at a party? Can Shannon put down her vodka long enough to grow up and have a mature disagreement with someone?

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  21. Spunky2015 says

    November 14, 2017 at 10:44 am

    If you can get beyond Shannon’s screeching, she makes sense. Loved it when Shannon exposed Peggy on the “I’m hurt, hurt, hurt” story. Wish Shannon had stood her ground more instead of running off. Without Shannon, there would be no show this season.

    Lydia now wanting IVF for a girl is comical. I guess praying for a girl with the third kid didn’t work. Maybe a storyline for next year if she gets the chance. Don’t want to see Meghan and Lydia going through that again.

    Kelly pointing out Michael’s flaws is really describing herself. Her mom has had too much Arizona sun. Kelly needs to pay for a peel. Nice lady and wonder where is is living now.

    Vicki, just go away. Talk about over inflated ego.

    Tamra and her daughter go back and forth with their fighting. Daughter doesn’t mind Tamra paying for east coast college with HW money though. I give Tamra and Vicki a break because they raised their kids without any outside help. Ryan looks older than his mother!

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    • Melissa says

      November 14, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      Tamra and her daughter do not go “back and forth” with their relationship.

      Tamra was given a choice: choice 1. have a relationship with Sidney, but do not use that relationship as fodder for publicity, social media attention, or Bravo. Choice 2: have no relationship with Sidney.

      Tamra chose Choice 2.

      After years of no communication, and despite Tamra’s repeated violations of Sidney’s privacy, Sidney invited Tamra to her graduation at Simon’s request. Per Sidney, Tamra’s invitation was contingent on her agreement, in writing, to NOT publicize or exploit the invitation or the graduation in any way.

      Within 24 hours of the invitation, and her express agreement, Tamra broke her word.

      Tamra filmed with Shannon, and discussed the invite. Tamra filmed with Ryan while preparing to go the graduation. And within weeks of the graduation, Tamra published photos without Sidney’s consent to Tamra’s social media account.

      There is NO excuse for this behavior. Tamra clearly does not want a relationship with Sidney. If she did, she would have kept her word. I have zero sympathy for a woman that intentionally betrays and exploits her child, who has explicitly and repeatedly ask her not to, knowing full well the emotional and physical ramifications that conduct has had, and will continue to have.

      And FTR — Tamra did not raise her child “without outside help.” Perhaps they didn’t hire nannies, but they both had spouses, family, and money. When Tamra was single and had only Ryan, it’s pretty clear that her mother played a huge role in his care. She was NOT alone. Thank God.

      Sidney’s college education is Tamra’s moral obligation. And it’s likely a legally binding contractual obligation as well. Why shouldn’t Tamra pay for her child’s education? Isn’t that what parents with financial mean do? Does paying for Sidney’s college give Tamra permission to exploit and degrade her child publicly against her express wishes?

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      • Spunky2015 says

        November 14, 2017 at 1:51 pm

        The daughter posted those photos like every kid does now days. Tamra has only said she is hurt about their problems; don’t call that exploitive. If her daughter feels so strongly about Tamra and HW don’t be a hypocrite and go to a state college and pay for it yourself. The kid wants it both ways IMO.

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        • Melissa says

          November 14, 2017 at 2:18 pm

          Tamra posted photos on her Instagram. She had explicitly agreed not to do that.

          And Sidney has repeatedly asked Tamra to not discuss her or their relationship on bravo or elsewhere. Tamra defies Sidney and does it anyway. And then Tamra blames Sidney and Simon for the consequences. All of this is either on camera, or on social media. That’s exploitation, Tamra has no right to drag Sidney through the mud Tamra has chosen to live in for money and attention.

          And again, Tamra agreed to pay for college. If she doesn’t want to, then stop and face the consequences, IMO it is the least she can do.

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        • Kdwagz says

          November 14, 2017 at 2:21 pm

          Sidney’s Facebook post was a scathing expose of all the lies Tamra has put out there about Simon vs. her selfless parenting. I believe the kid over someone who cries with no tears. In most divorces, there is a provision for college expenses commensurate with the ability to pay. State school my ass.

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          • Spunky2015 says

            November 14, 2017 at 3:54 pm

            When it comes to the expense of college today, kids need skin in the game to appreciate, otherwise Snowflakes. Tamra, yes she is no angel, but her daughter has been just as exploitive. Just saying that Tamra didn’t have to go through that expense when CA has plenty of good colleges to fulfill her obligations. Say what you will but she loves her kids and wants them to do better than she did. She does not live in an opulent home and doesn’t wear designer labels. IMHO.

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            • tamaratattles says

              November 14, 2017 at 4:03 pm

              Anyone who sides with the abusive parent over the child, doesn’t have an opinion worthy of anyone’s consideration.

            • Sliceo'pie says

              November 14, 2017 at 6:44 pm

              You’re an idiot. I’d write more but you’re not worth the time Spunky.

          • Janet says

            November 14, 2017 at 10:32 pm

            I think the child rearing help Tamra had, was Simon. Someone wrote that on an old show, it was obvious when the kids were little, that Tamra wasnt the one to get them ready or pack their lunches for school or take them to school. Simon did it and household help when they could afford it. She doesnt cook either. How do we know Tamra is paying for school? I dont think thats our buisness to know that. I dont think its her issue to concern herself with who is paying. Your relationahip with your child isnt based on money, its based on how that parent treated you and made you feel growing up. How they cared for you and how they handeled letting go as you got older. And how they conducted their life. If you want your child to fake it and kiss your butt for college, what does that accomplish? Some things cant be bought.

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            • Spunky2015 says

              November 14, 2017 at 11:58 pm

              The “idiot” thinks things are off track. Get a grip.

  22. justanothermary says

    November 14, 2017 at 10:47 am

    I read somewhere that Ryan was just discharged from the service in August. Their house sold the first week in November. What the Hell happened? They are saying it didn’t work out, what did Vicki do?

    Also, I never want to see another housewife who cannot pronounce the word “women”. It simply is not that difficult and it should be a prerequisite. It was bad enough going through that with Danielle Staub, we do not need Peggy around until she can say it right!

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    • Sliceo'pie says

      November 14, 2017 at 6:46 pm

      I bet the move has more to do with Ryan than it has to do with Vicki.

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  23. amanda elles says

    November 14, 2017 at 10:55 am

    Am I the only one that noticed how distant Ryan seemed towards Brianna when they made their descent down the steps. He could have least put his hand on her back. I cannot stand Ryan. He’s as creepy as David. I hope he is kind to Brianna but I seriously doubt it. He seems to be a control freak like her Mom.
    PLEASE BRAVO give Vicki the boot. Also, ditch Lydia and is it possible to have someone else host WWHL?

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    • Janet says

      November 14, 2017 at 11:01 pm

      I noticed that too, but Im not sure it means anything or not. I really noticed it though. I loved her green dress. With Shannon I can tell David really doesnt care for this plus size version of Shannon. I dont mean to be cruel but she looked twice his size sitting in the limo. I think he didnt enjoy being married to the thin version either, but it was maybe tolerable then, and now its just not acceptable at all. I think hes either got someone or hes on the hunt. I cant say I really blame him. Shannon as much as I like her, is very difficult, princess in the pea, quarelsome and bossy when it comes to David. Maybe they were allready doomed and he just wants a trade up, but David is hot and does not have to put up with that. Plus whenever I see a gym rat husband married to someone who hates to work out with a passion, its almost destined to fail. When a husband is in really great shape they dont want to hold a pudgy or flabby wife. I dont think Shannon really loves David either, she just didnt want the affair to have him. Thats the sense I got. She didnt show much passion twords him either and was into all this other stuff like Dr. Moon.

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      • Something Clever says

        November 15, 2017 at 10:48 am

        I don’t think the marriage was about love for a long time, either, but the end of a marriage is hard on everyone in the family. I know some kids are relieved, but many kids suffer profoundly from their parents’ divorce.

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        • Janet says

          November 15, 2017 at 9:13 pm

          I agree. Ive seen the damage, and seen it take away kid’s care free childhoods and stability. I dont think divorce is hardly ever beneficial for kids except in some cases, but that doesnt stop the parent, when thats not who they wish to be with. Its not how I wish things to be, its just what Ive seen. Ive also heard men say they would leave if their wife got fat. So I think it is an issue for some men, and the last straw when they allready are unhappy in the marriage.

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      • HarmonyHW says

        November 15, 2017 at 1:03 pm

        My 35 year anniversary is in December and my husband and I went through several fit/not fit permutations. We still loved each other no matter who was fit or pudgy at any given time. If weight is an issue, the real problems aren’t being discussed or acknowledged.

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      • Mel says

        November 28, 2017 at 8:19 pm

        That was a stupid comment about a husband not wanting to hold their fat or pudgy or flabby wife. Guess what? Fat happens! Fat makes good babies, good milk, and great sex. He isn’t in love with her anymore makes more sense. That happened when she was skinny!

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  24. Just Saying says

    November 14, 2017 at 11:02 am

    I think we are sad it’s over because there was no resolution, all the women still hate each other and Shannons still screaming

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  25. Jasmine says

    November 14, 2017 at 11:16 am

    I have no idea how Bravo are going to perform CPR on this franchise…..especially if Tamra and Vicki still hate each other.

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    • Eva says

      November 14, 2017 at 1:08 pm

      BRAVO needs to find housewives in Orange County that actually socialize together. Orange County is filled with thirsty housewives, so it won’t be hard to replace Peggy, Lydia, Meghan and Vicki. I have been watching since the first season and this was the worst season.

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      • beekay says

        November 14, 2017 at 11:10 pm

        That’s exactly right! All members need to have some connection or be willing to form a connection.

        Lydia and Peggy aren’t all that interested in connecting with the others. I suppose they have enough friends outside the show. Or maybe their husbands, kids and extended family are enough.

        The problem with Lydia and Peggy is that they are not willing to socialize with the group. They want to show up for the time slot of filming, but don’t enjoy staying up late having fun, or going into town with others. They are homebodies.

        Nothing wrong with being a homebody but it’s boring to have Lydia turn-in early in Iceland, get up the next morning for some Bible reading and alone time and then ask “What did I miss?”

        It was boring to have Peggy locked in her room all day in Iceland and flying home alone.

        Lydia and Peggy are very home-oriented. They enjoy events more when they have their husbands with them. It’s hella boring to see Peggy and Diko mailing a letter together or Lydia and her husband discussing the birds and the bees with their kids.

        The ladies who like to socialize are the fun ones to watch. Even when Tamra was new and didn’t know anyone, she wanted to be part of the group and definitely stayed around the others getting to know them. Maybe it was fear of missing out?

        Lydia and Peggy do not appear to have any FOMO. No problem being the first one to say “good night” after dinner. No problem staying in their rooms in the morning until call time. Other housewives spend the minimum time they can in their rooms.

        One example: Tamra was game to go out clubbing with Vickie in Mexico on her Bachelorette weekend while Gretchen was in the hotel room sleeping.

        So Tamra, Vickie, and Shannon are very sociable. They are the kind of women Bravo should look for to replace Lydia and Peggy.

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  26. Vickie80 says

    November 14, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    Urg…. so many weeks of nothing. Totally rubbish season.

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  27. Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

    November 14, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Peggy is a whole bunch of bitch.
    Have no idea what her and Diko are doing except reminding me of being a spoof of RHOC.

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    • Eva says

      November 14, 2017 at 2:12 pm

      Yes, I felt that they could easily be on Saturday Night Live.
      Diko is thirsty and wanted to some product placement. Rims for cars?
      Peggy was not just a basic bitch, very manipulative. Peggy knew how to push Shannon’s buttons…..

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      • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

        November 14, 2017 at 2:24 pm

        Yes, that’s true, she would probably be a scary friend to have around. She seems to look for your weakness, and use it to go in for the kill, and grin.
        It seems very natural and easy. Wonder if she is one of those who are always a victim and never at fault. Hmmm.

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  28. Kdwagz says

    November 14, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    I still find Vicki and Kelly amusing. Also think Lydia was better than most people commenting here. Shannon and Tamra together are a boatload of negativity. Not fun. They are the reason the season tanked. The only decent episode was in Iceland when Tamra and Vicki were whooping it up together. Tamra may be “over Vicki,” until she realizes she needs that paycheck.

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  29. PJBottoms says

    November 14, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    Don’t tease me! Is this the end of the OC???. Watching this show feels like eating leftovers. Even when it tastes better the next day, it is still leftovers. Vickie and Tamra remain bitter and unwilling to talk about what is really going on in their lives.

    Meghan has shown me that a robot can be programmed to be a housewife on TV. The King Collection reminded me of one of the Sonja Morgan Lifestyle ventures. And unlike Peggy had portrayed the party on her blog as some grand event, what I saw was a handful of people scattered around what looked like a miniature golf course. They had a Luge, but no alcohol going down it. They had a signature drink that looked like Windex. They even edited Meghan’s speech down to the meaning of “king”….who cares?

    To quote Jax Laurita: this season “killed my boner.” Just wondering if Tamra will address Sydney’s post at the reunion? My guess is NO.

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  30. LaNY says

    November 14, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    there are 2 items Peggy needs to add to her Christmas list this year:

    1. a grasp of the English Language
    2. a damn hair brush!

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    • Jrleaguer says

      November 15, 2017 at 12:36 am

      3. A case of conditioner. ?

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      • LaNY says

        November 16, 2017 at 3:54 pm

        Yes, that too! 🙂

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  31. Sal says

    November 14, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    I still love Tamra, hope she comes back next season.

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  32. Flo says

    November 14, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    1. I think I’m the only one who loves Peggy. She’s a smart ass and I love her and Diko.
    2. Did anyone else see the way Michael looked at Meghan when the arrived at the party? And It looked like he kissed her on the neck and she gave him a weird stare.
    3. Shannon will both be better people after her divorce. I can’t imagine she’s been the most fun partner and she seems to be alcohol dependent. When she needs to stand alone and have no excuses for her bad behaviour she might find the strength to be a better version of herself.

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    • gapeachinsc says

      November 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm

      I really like Peggy and Diko, too, Flo. I will miss them.

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  33. Peachy Keen says

    November 14, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    Peggy’s opening in her open top car.. CHeck it out.. Totally ripped off from Stephanie Powers in the opening of HART to HART from the 80’s.

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  34. lorip says

    November 14, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    so happy shannon told it like it is re Peggy!!! Peggy pokes and pokes and then she’s confused! such a liar – shannon 100% right. diko pulling her aside at their party for something her husband said (which wasn’t even bad – he was just being concerned) was crazy. yes, i agree, peggy’s hair is a digusting rats nest!!! w/all her money, get a hairdresser and makeup person. lydia always automatically defends peggy. they showed her lies. lydia, in one season, made her husband get a vasectomy and now wants a girl!!! she needs to stick to her praying. she’s tiresome and boring. tamra deserves everything she gets from her daughter — she doesn’t want to be mentioned on tv/bravo and what does tamra do??? she never seems to learn! wonder if ryan is moving to get away from vicki??

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    • tamaratattles says

      November 14, 2017 at 7:19 pm

      I feel like the vasectomy and sperm freezing was done so that they can select the babies gender through IVF. Something a lot of churches take issue with.

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      • Bec says

        November 14, 2017 at 11:32 pm

        My thoughts exactly!! My husband had a vasectomy and we didn’t bank sperm because we are d.o.n.e with babies – 3’s enough for me but when I saw Lydia talking about banking sperm I just knew that we would soon hear she was pregnant with a girl!!!

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  35. gia says

    November 14, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    I don’t know about anyone else, but Peggy gives me the creeps. She’s just so weird and creepy. And that act she pulls about not knowing what certain turns of phrases mean is getting old. She adds NOTHING to the show at all. Actually, I’d rather watch her husband who has a funny personality and lights up the scenes he’s in as opposed to her…she drains them, is void of a personality and her attempts at throwing shade are lame.

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    • Janet says

      November 15, 2017 at 9:48 pm

      I like Diko better too. I dont have a problem with him at all. He seems really nice, cute and fun, and understands english!

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  36. Jrleaguer says

    November 15, 2017 at 12:18 am

    I heard a line on my new favorite show the other night and it sort of sums up the Orange County season…
    “If there’s a pot of shite onto boil, you stir like it’s God’s work.”

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  37. Take-A-Xanax says

    November 17, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    Lydia has her husband get a vasectomy, and then wants another baby????? How nice that your fickleness can be supported by the mega bucks it takes to go through IVF. Shameful considering how many heart broken women are out there being denied a child because they can not afford the procedure. For Lydia to put us viewers through that bullshit,drawn out, ball cutting SL, and then flippantly reveal that she now wants another baby is a slap in the face.

    I feel for Vicki’s son Michael having to work in the insurance industry, and for his Mom. I can tell he hates the work and is doing it for the $$ alone. That is a sucky situation to work at something you have no passion for. I worked in the insurance industry for 3 years and it felt like a mindless sales prison sentence. Sorry to offend any insurance workers out there that truly like the industry.

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  38. lorip says

    November 24, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    as badly as I feel for shannon getting a divorce, i have always felt she should have gotten off national tv after the first season and marriage problems and ‘the affair’. she then dragged her family on national tv through her and david’s counseling etc and the affair, etc. that was so wrong for her kids – they had to live everything out in the public eye, and the public punishment of david, episode after episode. she should have left the series after first season!!!!!

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