Unlike most of y’all I found Bethenny not mentioning Carole at all on her last appearance on WWHL very interesting. Especially when asked about which housewives had donated to her Puerto Rico relief fund. She said Tinsley came in big, Ramona donated twice, Dorinda donated through a cooking contest and Lisa Rinna showed up. Some of you seemed to think she just forgot to mention Carole. Someone suggested Carole was doing an animal charity instead. I believe there may have been a falling out. Or something is going on with Carole.
Let’s not forget that Bethenny doesn’t have a lot of close friends. She had taken Carole on more than one expense trip at her expense. Bethenny took Carole on a very expensive trip to the Galapagos to share one example. Bethenny was trying to be a real friend off camera to Carole. If Carole had donated to her relief fund, that would have been the first name out of Bethenny’s mouth on WWHL. Bethenny didn’t simply forget to mention her. That said, Carole did post one IG with support to Bethenny. I doubt their friendship is over, it just doesn’t seem like Carole is down with RHONY filming. We don’t see her posting anything yet, then again none of them have said much about filming. Carole just completed the NYC Marathon and I thought I’d see some wives there but I didn’t.
Then on Thursday, Luann posted a photoshopped picture of all the RHONY on social media as if to let us know everyone is back. And they are. They recently had an all cast party were everyone was in attendance including Sonja and Ramona.
Marysol Patton (RHOM) commented on the post asking who the one on the bottom left (Carole) was and if she was pregnant. She followed that up with, “She can’t be, right?” I love Marysol even though she is a little out there, but that insult makes no sense. First of all, you Can see anything on Carole below her boobs. And Carole is anorexic. And too old to be pregnant. And not really seeing anyone.
Carole responded with a comment that she expects nothing less from Countess Luann’s best buddy, Marysol who she calls dumb, rude and jealous. Oh and Carole, when you are going to call someone else dumb, that is the time it is vital to proofread your clapback.
One thing that comes to my mind is that at the reunion, only Carole and Dorinda were pro-Hillary. Bethenny could have voted either way and mentioned that Dennis lives in Trump Tower and she’s run into Trump during a walk of shame. It is possible that Carole’s trauma over Trump winning the election has her not speaking to anyone else that is not still as butthurt over the outcome as she is?
Marysol was and I think still is very pro Trump. Bless her heart. Luann tries to keep her political views to herself but seemed to have voted for him. I know of many relationships that are on the rocks because of the last presidential election. So maybe it is that.
Or maybe Carole is just exhausted from her very arduous marathon training and is hungry and crabby?
What do y’all think is going on? I sent a few questions to a source tonight, but it’s the weekend and I probably won’t hear back for a while. I’ll update if I do.
I was watching Bethennys Instagram story and she was having a dinner for her birthday with all the ladies and her and Carole did seem chummy but I’m surprised that there’s been no posts of Carole coming to Puerto Rico with B for any of the work. If my bestie was flying back and forth from NYC to PR and begging for assistance I would be with her…..
Also if Carole used half of the energy she spends responding to Twitter followers when she’s actually filming the show, maybe she wouldn’t be forgotten.
I totally agree! Bethenny has put a HUGE amount of time, money, fundraising and energy into helping the people of PR, and Carole is wealthy and could have at least written a check, even if she was in training for the marathon.
I see Carole as a very self centered person. She hasn’t impressed me as a ‘girl’s girl’ and while for two seasons she was up Bethenny’s ass so hard she had to fight for air, she seems to have forgotten her since Tinsley came on the show.
I like Tinsley, I can see where she is someone you’d enjoy a friendship with. But just because a new friend comes along doesn’t mean you drop the main friend in your life. We’re all adults, not middle school girls. You can have two close friends, especially when they get along with each other. Bethenny was good to Tinsley, she offered her good advice and they mended any difference-hence Tinsley donating a large amount to Bethenny’s project.
I think, and this is my opinion, that Carole has lost her live-in lover, she’s hitting menopause hard (like so many other housewives) and she’s not caring about anything or anyone but herself.
She acted like a fool before and after the election-she got way too invested and when HRC lost, she acted like it was a personal insult. No one should lose friends over an election, that’s childish.
We’re seeing the REAL Carole now, and it ain’t pretty.
Spot on. As I’ve lost friends over the election (their choice not mine) I tell them, politics change, friends never should.
Tinsley also has a boyfriend who puts her, Carol, and Dorinda into commercials for his company. What’s his company? Coupon Cabin? I’ll stick with Retail Me Not.
Bethenny attended a very expensive fund raiser for Hilary last year so I doubt whether she is a Trump supporter. I just assume that she didn’t want her political affiliations becoming part of the RHNY storyline and discussed in that manner.
I also noticed Bethenny congratulated the female runner with the fastest time at the NY marathon on Twitter, but didn’t mention Carole. That struck me as really weird, but I couldn’t be bothered to check her Insta to see if I was missing a post about Radzi elsewhere. Tons of people were asking “what about Carole?”, and Bethenny totally ignored them.
I think Marysol is fighting Luann’s battles for her because she’ll say and do anything for some relevance with Bravo. She’s one of my all-time favorite Housewives, but she has a certain reputation in Miami – let’s just say, NYC isn’t the only city where it snows, and there are good reasons why so many Bravolebrities hit her and Alexia up when they’re in Miami. Allegedly, so they say, etc. It’s a real shame if Carole and Luann are on the outs again, although I got the impression last season that Carole was revelling in Lu’s discomfort while doing the bare minimum to appear concerned for her welfare. I’m willing to put $$$ on the guess that she was the only cast member who didn’t call Luann when the divorce was announced, and I think Lu has probably confronted her over that and caused another blow-up between them.
Ah yes. I forgot that Carole was the only one who didn’t reach out to Luann. I think you are right on all fronts here.
I agree. I think Carole thinks of herself as too cool for Bravo and the Bravolebrities, even though she is one.
To be honest, I had no clue who Carole was before Bravo. So she can not be that cool. LoL
I was never a Bethany fan, until I watched what she did and continues to do for PR. God bless her. Now, there is not much she could do that would cause me to dislike her in anyway. She saved more lives then she will ever know.
Why would she call Lu??? She and Luann have never been close they have had their fair share of problems so, for her to reach out would have really been fake & insincere…
Really give a girl a break… HS
I FEEL THAT SHE N BETHANNY HAD A TRUE FRIENDSHIP. IT DOES APPEAR THAT THEY ARE NOT AS CLOSE AS USUAL; HAVING SAID THAT, SOMETIMES FRIENDSHIPS “TRUE FRIENDSHIPS” HAVE THERE ? AND ?. SOMETIMES IT’S THOSE HIGHS & LOWS THAT BRING FRIENDS CLOSER. CRUCIFYING SOMEONE FOR THE MOST MINUTE THING IS RIDICULOUS, REALLY…SMH
Please read the commenting rules, Nilda.
I really don’t like when people ask – which person donated – that puts people on blast – unnecessarily. As for this interaction,Carole is mad at the wrong person, would be pissed at the person bringing it to my attention.
ha ha…maybe Carole is dating Lu’s ex and Carole is getting heat for it!
Maybe Bethenny felt left out when Carole started spending so much time with her new bestie Tinsley.
That’s really the heart of the matter three sided freinds never work out ?️
I can’t really blame Carole, Bethenny is with her daughter for a few days a week and makes no time for anyone else during that time, which is not a bad thing, and then she has to try and squeeze everything else into her remaining time. Meanwhile, Tinsley doesnt really have those kinds of demands on her time, just like Carole who doesn’t really do much in life either.
Tinsley made signs for Carol for Marathon. Adam ran it too, or was also there supporting her.
I’ve run the NYC Marathon twice and by the time you get to the marathon, all you are doing is eating, sleeping, and running.
By the time mid August rolls around, it is all about marathon training.
Carol also ran for charity.
I would bet a few of the housewives were out to cheer Carol on, it is a massive street party.
I don’t know about Carole and Bethenny …maybe Tinsley as replaced Bethenny
But Carole is not looking good….way too much filler in her cheeks and her mouth now looks stretched like a fish’s.
Sorry to be critical but I would have thought she would be the type to leave well enough alone.
I’m sure there’s more to the story because it wouldn’t be real housewives if there wasn’t…but, in Carol’s defense, when you are training for a run like that, EVERYTHING in your life revolves around that training. Training for a marathon is a full time job. It’s not just running…so maybe she was just very absorbed in that kind of life at that time. I don’t think anyone understands what training for a marathon is like unless you’ve tried to do it yourself. It’s next to impossible to think of anything unrelated to that event and the prep for it…especially for newbies!
I was one who thought that Bethenny surely must have inadvertently left Carol out, but now you guys are making me wonder!
I was excited to see B on Shark Tank, but it was only one episode and she seemed to want to put a lot of the businesses that she liked under her Skinny Girl umbrella. Of course, she IS the one running an empire, while I lay in my bed in a townhouse in the ‘burbs thinking that anyone gives a rat’s ass about my comments here, so I certainly cannot judge.
Pretty funny that our award-winning journalist (who knows so much more than the rest of us non- journalists because she is an award-winning journalist) cannot seem to use proper grammar. TT, I absolutely love it when your teacher side comes out to school these fools! Maybe if she had a French assistant from France she could have her proof read. Speaking of proofreading, any chance that Carol made her last book deadline? She never seemed to really care, but that could have just been part of her “cool, I’m so laid back” persona.
Oh I am in NO PLACE TO JUDGE.
Once you get old, your brain just types whatever it wants. their, there, they’re gets all jumbled. I get it, and I don’t give a shit. EXCEPT when I am telling someone else they are dumb. Then I make sure I don’t look illiterate while doing so…
You are hilarious!
Carol can spell and is aces at grammar. It was her ghost writer – not her – who used them instead of than.
At a certain age, some women think one thing and their fingers type something else. Don’t ask me how I know this. Carol writes her own blogs.
Carole is and always has been a bore. I’d much rather have Heather Thomson back. Hell, I’d settle for Aviva or Kristen over Carole. Her constant digs at Luann got old 3 season ago. It’s time to move on.
Thank you! I thought I was alone in this. Indeed, Carol is boring and her need to put-down Luann, at every chance, draws more attention to how boring she is. Maybe a feud with Bethanny will bring the fire out of Carol for one more season.
Carol is a poser. She pretends she is an intellectual (because she reads the New York Times??), and a political activist. Hmmm…. we have never seen her stuffing envelopes for political candidates, manning phone banks to get out the vote, hosting fund-raising dinners, or even calling her wealthy friends in support of a candidate.
The ONE incident we saw was her canvassing a neighborhood with Dorinda, which she then claimed was the highlight of her year. Ok, if you found the highlight of your year (SUPPOSEDLY), why wouldn’t you continue that pursuit back home?
Why not STAY politically active instead of changing focus 180 degrees to train for a marathon.
Hosting one election night dinner does not make a person a move and shaker in the political realm. She comes across as lazy but wanting the glory that comes from actual hard work.
Lawd, that was a lot of words for someone who obviously knows absolutely nothing about Carole.
And it wasn’t Dorinda she went canvassing with, it was her mom. But facts don’t seem to be something you’re overburdened with, so I doubt you care.
I love Carole but guess I’m in the minority. I can see how she and Bethany would clash simply because they have different personalities. The comment about Carole being pregnant is strange.
Chloe, I’m team Carole. I think a lot of posters here are envious of her (consciously or subconsciously) and it comes out as hate. I’m sure they will call me all kinds of name for writing this. Sticks and stones, etc.
LOVE IT!!
“YES, YES” I, 100% AGREE WITH UR REPLY TO MORONIC COMMENT ABOVE…
I am with you, beekay. Carole seems to believe that having an opinion is the same as being active in a cause. She strikes me as someone who’s still trying on hats to figure out who she is – she’s an author, she’s political, she’s a jogger, etc. She strikes me as being empty at heart. She wants the cachet of being a liberal light when the sad fact is that she is woefully ill-equipped to offer wisdom or clarity. But it is her contempt for her own fans that in the long run defines her for me. As Maya Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Yes to all of it.
Amen
BeeKay – FYI, Carole Radziwill was a producer for ABC news, working under Peter Jennings. She was also on the front lines in Iraq and Afghanistan, reporting alongside the troops and, in addition. won 3 Emmys and a Peabody Award. Hardly a lightweight. Also, you have no idea what else she does to stay politically relevant. She’s at a time in her life where she can pursue things that she enjoys, whether that’s jogging, writing books, or being on RHONY. Give her credit where credit’s due.
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she won group emmys not one on her own, she was never a big deal at abc news. if she was she would have kept working. she hasn’t been a journalist for over 20 years and she only worked for about 10 years.
Spot on. As I’ve lost friends over the election (their choice not mine) I tell them, politics change, friends never should.
Thank you. I just didn’t feel like posting that information for the thousandth time lol
“YES, YES” EXACTLY, IS AS IF SHE CAN’T DO/TRY DIFFERENT THINGS BC SHE’S WRONG, A POSSER, FAKE… IT’S RIDICULOUS HOW SHE’S BEING SCRUTINIZED AND HARSHLY CRITICIZED. FACT CHECK 1ST BEFORE TRYING TO PUT ANYONE ON BLAST, REALLY!!!
I see people accuse her of being anorexic all the time, but now, I am not so sure. It seems like if she were, especially at her age, it would be nearly impossible for her to compete in something as grueling as a marathon. Considering the toll the disease takes on the internal organs, she would at the very least have some issues with her heart.
People like to accuse anyone who’s very thin of being anorexic. Some people just have a thin body type.
It’s not just the over-thinness. It’s her relationship to food. Her rituals with it. Her extreme control. When she ordered a scrambled egg and a hard boiled egg she emphasized (while ordering and while the plate was being put down) that she did not want the eggs to touch. This is a thing with anorexics: that the foods not touch each other on the plates.
I don’t like certain things on my plate to touch either, I like my chicken dry as fuck and my sandwiches and burritos as soggy as a pornstars cooch – but I eat like a fucking football player and love me some food.
Carole may have been training for the marathon, but she had time to post her used clothing, shoes and jewelry for sale on Poshmark and to tweet about it.
I looked to see if the proceeds were for charity — which I assumed — but couldn’t find anything. A lot of celebs sell their stuff and donate the proceeds.
Yeah, that made me think she needs the money and that’s why she didn’t donate to Bethenny’s charity… She has put an awful lot up on Posmark. Just guessing though.
Meh, I think it’s all a nothingburger.
This is so petty but funny – Lea Black from the Miami cast is going down the comments under Carole’s post and “liking” the anti-Marysol comments. I guess some feuds never die lol!
Johnny, that cracks me up. Wouldn’t mind a Marisol/Lea Black pairing again.
During the reunion, Bethenny said she voted for HRC. At the time, I was mildly shocked she didn’t try to deflect or take some neutral stance.
She did point out she “didn’t like her choices” on either side, which I thought was a strange qualification given that she’d quietly attended a few Hillary fundraisers in the Hamptons.
Perhaps she just didn’t want to alienate lardy Trump voters in case they stop buying SkinnyGirl.
The Michael Jordan approach of “Republicans buy sneakers/Skinnygirl, too.” I also remember her ranting on Twitter about how the post-election Trump Tower protests were such an inconvenience to her daily commute.
Regarding which Presidential candidate Louann voted for: many people do not bother to vote. Louann does not strike me as someone who is very interested in politics. I doubt she voted in the election.
LuAnn donated over 2k to HRC’s campaign (it’s on the records). She probably just wanted to stay neutral at the reunion.
Maybe Carole, like the majority of viewers of the four part RHONY reunion developed PTSD from Bethenny! She basically made AC her bitch and took over the questions and accusations, yelling at whomever didn’t agree with her and equated her life like she survived a WWII concentration camp dealing with her divorce issues with Jason! Maybe Carole needed a break from her. Maybe Carole donated and asked to be anonymous, because usually people with class like Sandra Bullock, donate a shit ton of money to charities and don’t need the publicity to feel good about doing a great gesture. Also, Carole used to hate exercise and decided to train for the NYC Marathon. That can take more than a year and lots of time in the day to train. Carole also has always had other friends unlike Bethenny, but not shown on the show. She used to be besties with Heather before Bethenny took over the show. All I know is that I do commend what Bethenny is doing for Puerto Rico, Texas, FL, but she is a monster Hoover that sucks the life out of you on the show. Carole is still on the show because she’s close with AC and if Vicki, Bethenny, Porsha,Ramona or Nene haven’t been fired, she’s not going anywhere unless it’s on her own accord unfortunately!
LOVE IT!!
“YES, YES” I, 100% AGREE!!!
BETHANNY? HAS A MEAN MALICIOUS STRIKE AND IT NEVER FAILS THAT HER MONSTER WILL ATTACK EVERY/ALL FRIENDS SHE HAS EVER HAD AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. IT WAS A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SHE BIT CAROLS HEAD OFF. AT SOME POINT, SHE’LL DO THE WHOLE CROCODILE TEARS THING AND APOLOGIZE…BOOWOOHOO??
Wow, ok. But you don’t need to YELL!!!!
She’s new. I commented that she needed to read the commenting rules but apparently she is one of those people who comments and doesn’t come back. She’s in purgatory.
I always donate anonymously.
She’s too busy with her cats and enjoying her peaceful house–without her live-in boyfriend.
Almost nothing gives me more satisfaction than remembering Carole’s arrogant “I’m more informed than you” being bitch slapped on election night.
So glad you got your moment of schadenfreude at the expense of the rest of us. Several cliches come to mind about cutting off your nose, and careful what you wish for…
FYI, that trip to Galapagos was free, Bethany didn’t pay for Carole or herself. My friends were invited as well. Some rich buddy of theirs chartered the ship and invited all his friends, it was a bday trip or something, i forget.
LuAnn donated over 2k to HRC’s campaign (it’s on the records). She probably just wanted to stay neutral at the reunion.
Yup, $2,700 during the primaries – the maximum allowed.
I think only Ramona and Sonja were Trump voters. Given the way Ramona treats other women, I’m not surprised Trump appeals to her, and Sonja was a vocal conservative during the 2012 election (she kept repeating the idiotic phrase “the country needs its self esteem back”, which could almost have been a precursor to “Make America Great Again”).
Make America Slightly Less Embarrassed Of Itself or perhaps Making America Slightly Less Terrified might be good slogans for anyone in 2020.
At this point, I’d vote for Putin directly over Trump next time and cut out the middle man. I’m one of those less government types.
I’d vote for either of those slogans right now too, TT. I still naively hope for a candidate who can persuasively combine fiscal conservatism with a socially liberal outlook, but at this point I’d settle for all sorts of things I’d have balked at before….
Yes to all. I naively thought that there was a ground swell of folks who were fiscally conservative and socially liberal. You know the best aspects of both parties in a new grouping.
It seems I was wrong.
Actually there are a lot of us like that out here.
But you’d never know it because we never get a political candidate that is fiscally conservative and socially responsible…I avoid the term socially ‘liberal’.
I’d settle for a candidate that just has some Common Sense. ..about what works for the country as a whole and what doesn’t
agree 100%!
I am still hopeful.
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. I don’t think they are getting along. They used to be joined at the hip & now the pals are noticeably separate. A bestie would definitely donate to Bethenny’s charity efforts of late. No doubt about it.
Carole did not go to the benefit where Bethenny was presented a humanitarian award last week either. A couple of other housewives did Tinsley for sure. Page Six said the other one was Sonja but they are so wrong about their entire story, I’m not sure I believe them.
Yes, I noticed that as well. We all know that Carole & Bethenny DID have a very close friendship. Regardless of how much $$ Carole may or may not have, there are a lot of ways to support a friend’s charity & we’ve seen NOTHING of this from her.
I don’t believe Carole inherited much from her marriage to Anthony…..so she is probably not in a position to be as generous as Bethenny.
Lee Radziwill no doubt got a nice sum from the Prince in their divorce (and her other divorces maybe if there was no prenup) but according to the London papers at the time of the Prince’s death his family had lost most of their immense wealth after WWII. In fact when he became a British citizen he was not legally allowed to use the title of Prince but the crown allowed it to him as a courtesy.
Since Anthony’s death came fairly young and Lee was living it is unlikely she passed on a huge amount to him or he had millions in assets other than whatever his father may have set up in trust funds for his three children. Two wives and divorces prior to Lee and children by all of them will eat into a family’s assets pretty quickly.
Poking around some more on Carole this excerpt from an interview article at DailyBeast is pretty plain.
”For another, she’s hardly swimming in money—a fact that everyone continues to be amazed about vis-à-vis the extended Kennedys and the Bouviers/Radziwills, but that is nevertheless the reality.
Carole:
“There’s this idea everyone’s wealthy and living these grand lives. The rumors of Radziwill fortune have been vastly overstated. I read somewhere on the Internet that I have $50 million, and I think what they meant was 50 million pesos.”
Carole and Bethenny likely had a disagreement about — what else — Bethenny being insensitive and rude.
Last season, Bethenny threw a ton of passive aggressive shade at Carole in her talking heads. It was typically Bethenny stuff, making jokes at Carole’s expense. Mocking her obsession with politics, even her appearance.
The friendship, at it’s best, was one-sided. When Carole was down, Bethenny used it as mean-spirited fodder for snark and jokes. So, my guess is that Carole has just had enough.
There has been little out there about RHONY filming and it seems the ladies are keeping quiet about story lines, fights, alliances and the like. For example when it was reported that Tinsley and Scott broke up I noticed that neither Tinsley or Scott confirmed or denied the reports. I also noticed that the RHOBH ladies were silent while filming their season. Kyle posted a little on her Instagram but for the most part, nothing has been shared about the upcoming season and it seems in past seasons there was more info out there about what to expect for story lines, alliances and things like that so I wonder if Bravo is enforcing the silence or if maybe the Beverly Hills and New York ladies are smart enough not to vomit everything all over Twitter like the OC and the Atlanta ladies do every year.
Bethenny said she voted for Hillary, she just wasn’t as big of a fan of her as Dorinda or Carole were.
I’m skeptical they’ve had some type of falling out. Bethenny does not befriend people easily, so if she’s close to you, it’s serious. I don’t think she and Carole would part ways like that, maybe there is another explanation.
My cousin was so infuriated about the election that she unfriended anyone who supported Trump and posted a rant saying if she missed you and you’re a Republican, to unfriend her because she couldn’t have a relationship with anyone who could vote for him. She went so far as to specify this meant family and even her oldest friends.
So if Bethenny was a Trump supporter and Carole was aware, I would not be at all surprised to hear that destroyed their relationship. At all.