Once again, Banjo is pissed that I have stopped my extremely tone deaf singing along with The Voice, to recap this shit show. The Voice is getting huge ratings this season for a reason. I’m loving it even though a guy I really liked went home just because he was paired with one of Miley’s powerhouse females. Anyway, you should totally be watching this season. Also, TT has the absolute BEST Walking Dead recaps on the Internet. Please share them with your friends who are fans of the show. They will thank you, I promise.
So anyway, back to Iceland. At this point in filming, the women know they have a shit season on their hands. This is when they have to start culling the weak and boring. Look for Peggy to start taking the hits. In the end though, it seems that Peggy, Lydia and Meghan are having their final episodes. A huge overhaul of RHOOC is on the way.
Iceland looks beautiful, and if I spend my last years rich and able to just travel it will certainly make the list, but as the planet continues to have so much strife, I’m much less likely to travel too far, too often. But I do love seeing it on this show.
On the final night, Lydia and Peggy have a scene together in Lydia’s hotel suite. Both of these women have the exact same problem. They were both told by production they are to be ride or die Vicki friends. They have gone hard on anyone who has been even slightly mean to her. And now that Vicki has made up with her enemies, because at least Tamra sees the writing on the wall, they are screwed. I would like that long sleeved “whatever” tee shirt in the largest size they make in grey. Peggy is starving as she has been in bed for a full day and has not eaten.
The other bitches are off somewhere in five inch heels. Because, Iceland. Peggy tells Lydia that she is next door to Meghan’s room where her baby was crying for fifteen minutes without comfort. It’s the final dinner and Lydia is tasked with bringing Peggy to dinner to be filleted. I really hate to see Lydia level. She’s done exactly what she was told. But all of you bitches seem to hate her so she is done. I am loving Peggy for recording the drunk night’s audio on the phone. Too little too late, but still.
Um, okay. Strike Viking Themed Dinner For Tourists Party off my list of Things To Make and Do. These dudes are creepy. And trust me, my barometer for male companionship is slightly above “has a pulse” these days. Frankly, if rigor mortis has set in in all the right places, I could still be willing. These guys are a hard no though.
Once inside, the dudes in similar sweaters look doable, as if the guys on the outside were meant to scare them off. But I’d still bail because there are no women inside. I do not care for this. Then they sing. And I’d fuck them all.
Tamra and Vicki are whooping it up and Shannon is NOT HAPPY. I love that Meghan eats her Osso Bucco with her hands. It’s a Viking restaurant . Suddenly, Vicki says that she misinterpreted her phone call when she called screaming for her life about David and she apologizes. Shannon says on camera that she appreciates it. Shannon tells us in confessional that she doesn’t appreciate it.
When drunk Vicki and drunk Tamra start preening each other, Shannon is even more pissed. She tells them that she has a huge bathtub in her suite if they would both take a bath together. I get Shannon in this moment. She is letting Tamra know she is pissed and taking things too far. Shannon decides to hit on a random Viking. Tamra and Vicki make up.
Lydia and Peggy decide to join the party after production tells them they have to. The well timed intro by the Viking choir for this shot was everything. I really love the production of these scenes in Iceland. It sucks that production had so little to work with in Orange County. I do not get Peggy’s red full length dress for this. It is gorgeous, but so out of place.
Shannon who is drunk out of her mind stands and leads the choir. I sort of love her for this. This is something I would do. Everyone is nice to Peggy. Kelly gets up and tells her not to be uncomfortable and she is glad she came to see the show. Kelly apologizes to her. Peggy is a bitch about it.
Everyone is drunk. Kelly says that she is implementing her anger management classes. She fails to acknowledge that they were court ordered. I should say ALLEGEDLY here because I’m drinking a nice merlot and don’t have time to document that. Peggy tries to apologize to Tamra and says that she was not drinking at all. Peggy is pissed that people were laughing at her. Then she pulls out the audio of Meghan’s baby crying uncomforted for ten minutes. Why does that? Meghan is crying and it is sad. Clearly, Meghan has some issues with being a mother. But this is not something that should be brought up on camera in a dinner while everyone is drinking. It’s a HORRIBLE thing for one mother to do to another. HORRIBLE. I think we have all seen Meghan’s struggles at mothering. And that is what real reality shows are supposed to do. The thing is to show, you are not alone if as a first time mother you are a bit lost, or overwhelmed with parenting. I have always thought some of you were too hard on Meghan. Maternal instincts don’t always happen on day one. I do admit that I have mentioned that Meghan seems to have some issues with bonding. That doesn’t necessarily make her a bad mother. This is not the way to fight for your orange.
Tamra calls Diko a little bitch. Peggy leaves and Vicki does too. Vicki didn’t have her back at the dinner. She just wants to go home and be neutral.
The next day, Everyone else is hungover. Especially Kelly. Peggy went home on an earlier flight. I don’t blame her. That is a long flight to suffer with these women.
Next we are back in the OC. Shannon says she entered menopause at 42 and she stopped taking her hormones. That is awfully early. But her doctors suggest she go back on her hormones. She tells her doctor that David is not interested in sex with her. Tamra suggests divorce as a cure. Funny she should mention that.
Peggy is pissed with Vicki. She knows good well that Peggy and Lydia were brought on as her shields. Vicki says she just wants to be neutral. Lydia and Peggy have defended her all season. But Vicki doesn’t need Peggy or Lydia anymore.
I am terrified with Archie, Shannon’s dog not eating. I am having a similar issue with Banjo. ..I cannot handle this. David is being a smartass toward Shannon. I noticed the weird breathing with Banjo too. I don’t hate Shannon and I am not wanting to take sides. But David does seem to be checked out. Shannon knows it.
Next week is the finale! David refuses to go o Meghan’s party with Shannon. Divorce always buys you another season, Shannon, and I am okay with that.
In other news, Real Housewives of Dallas Reunion is misnamed Real Housewives of D.C. for me. So I am missing most of it. Please adjust your DVR accordingly.
Peggy is a homophobic cunt with financial issues.
Peggy looked like her eyes were swollen from crying but she felt the need to apply her eyelashes?
I agree with you TT that Peggy making a video of a crying infant was cruel and unnecessary. Secure women don’t do that. It’s worse than Kelly attacking Tamara’s estrangement with her daughter last season but oddly quite similar
Maybe production suggested Peggy bring this up to the group?
Just because a baby cries for 15 minutes really doesn’t mean it’s uncomforted. Babies cry, it’s kinda what they do.
Yeah, that was eye roll inducing. Some babies cry a lot. Whachya gonna do? It is likely that the nanny was holding her the entire time.
Time for Peggy to GTFO.
Thank you!!!! Peggy would have had a field day with my household last night. My 18-month-old woke up around 2 am and was inconsolable for nearly 30 minutes. Nothing we did could calm him down…rocking, swinging, changed his diaper, gave him a bottle…he just had to cry it out, whatever it was that was bothering him.
I would cut a bitch if someone that I only know through work did something like what Peggy did to Meghan.
Peggy is a cunt. What was she trying to achieve with that recording?
Honestly I don’t know how a woman takes a baby on a plane for 2 hours let alone 14 to get to Iceland. The baby should have stayed at home with the nanny. It is ridiculous to me to bring your baby to your job. Also I’ve never seen Meghan put anything in her mouth but a few bites of lettuce. What is she breastfeeding? Water? She hardly even has breasts! When there are breastfeeding scenes I almost want to pause the TV to see whether the baby is actually latching or she’s just doing it for show. Also she’s in a position of privilege and has a nanny she can afford to pay so I don’t really have any sympathy for whatever “struggles” she may have as a first time mom when she can just hand her baby off to her nanny when it gets tough. Either way Peggy is garbage for even mentioning the baby crying. She acts like her shit doesn’t stink and can’t take a fucking joke. I honestly love Kelly for saying the daddy line. It was hilarious. Peggy can exit the same way she entered with her resting bitch face. I don’t think any of the flashy sports cars or rented jewelry her husband flashes on camera will secure her position next year. Good riddance!
Seriously? Breast size? The size of a woman’s breasts has NOTHING to do with Her ability to successfully feed her child!
It was a joke! Don’t be a Peggy!
You’ve got judgy eyes.
I’ve been curious about Peggy’s behavior and after Iceland I think medications, depressions about deaths in her family and simply being an introvert pushed into the spotlight could all be colliding. She had surgeries and a cancer scare. She was rattled being foisted out onto a national stage when she appears to be an introvert. Pain meds could make a person isolate and have trouble following conversations
She was very off and could not communicate well in Iceland. That trip exaggerated some issues that were already noticeable. I hope she’s healthier now and feeling better.
If that’s the case, then she shouldn’t have signed the contract to be on the show. I’m pretty sure she knew what she was getting into, since this show has been around for a decade.
I agree with you. Often times we don’t always think before we leap. I do hope being on the show has enlightened Peggy. I wish her the very best. I actually like Peggy.
Peggy calling out Megan for the baby crying was way over the line for me. There are many reasons a baby could be crying for ten minutes, teething, gas, they were put in a crib so whoever was watching them could go pee… and I thought I heard one of the women say that she was doing sleep training, the cry it out method in Megan’s defense, so there’s that too. All are perfectly legit reasons for a baby to cry. If you are concerned, you say, hey, is everything ok, I heard your baby crying last night? Not, your baby was crying for ten minutes and I took a video to prove it. Who does that? I look to other more seasoned moms for advice, but so help me It would take everything in me to not punch someone in the nose for saying that to me. You can read all the books, watch all the videos and hear all the well meaning advice, but sometimes you are just in the weeds as a mom because babies aren’t all the same and don’t come with instruction manuals and you need support, not to be attacked and videoed. Good grief Peggy. I won’t miss her or her being lost in translation
Exactly! My first one had colic and I had ppd, second one was much better. And as you said babies cry, it helps strengthen their lungs.
Punch someone in the NOSE? I would CUNT PUNCH a bitch who did that to me. I have 5 kids. The second came out shrieking and continued to do so for what seemed like 20 out of 24 hours a day non stop for the first 6 month no matter what we did, she even managed to develop this sort of high pitched whine while breastfeeding that was a stand in for crying until she could be free to full on cry again. She also didn’t sleep for longer than 30 minutes at a time round the clock until she was over a year old. We talked to pediatricians and even a sleep consultant and not a damn thing worked, she just eventually outgrew it. For everyone who wants to bitch about Meghan having a nanny, any of you charitable commenters ever wonder if it’s precisely BECAUSE she’s having a hard time emotionally with this for one reason or another and doesn’t feel comfortable being alone with her baby? No, sure, it would be better for her baby if Meghan be made to be on her own when she’s struggling instead of pay for someone to help her when she’s financially able AND has enough sense to know she needs the help (for whatever reason).
And you had 3 more!?!
Yes, yes. I did. Luckily, baby 3 almost never cried and started sleeping through the night at 2 weeks. I think we were owed that by karma!
Vicki is a horrible friend. Peggy is a loony tune but you can support a friend without cosigning what they’re saying. Vicki’s excuse for not having her back when the ladies attacked her was awful. And she did the same thing to Kelly last year. I guess that’s why Bravo has to buy friends for her.
Vicki knows Peggy is a one off. She’s not going to waste her time.
Exactly Christi! They are all doing their final jockeying for alliance with those who will probably be back. Tamra is doing it too. Vicki knows that Peggy is one and done.
I completely agree she expects a ride or die friend and offers empty words in return.
To be fair, it is impossible to support a friend without having everyone, the other women, the audience, assuming that you are cosigning what that friend said. And honestly, anything Vicki would have said would have escalated the situation rather than calm it down. Peggy was in the wrong. Tamra was on the attack. Anything that Vicki said in Peggy’s defense would have given Shannon reason to jump in and attack and before you know it, the whole table (with the possible exception of Lydia)would have been out for Vicki’s blood.
My desire to reach through my screen and slap Peggy was overwhelming during this episode. It is maddening how she ever so slyly makes personal digs, over and over again, and then claims ignorance or an inability to communicate. BS, BS, BS! First when she asked Shannon if she trusts her husband (and then says ‘I know nothing!). Again last night she says to Shannon ‘your husband isn’t loyal to you’ and then pretends she is talking about his conversation with Diko. The topper washer clearly premeditated and cruel attack on Meghan’s parenting. Once the girls condemned her for it she backpedals, claiming she was just using the crying as a reference for why she went down the hall. She continues to peddle this lie in her blog. When Peggy was alone with Lydia she was quite clearly ATTACKING Meghan’s (whom she called a giraffe) parenting and implying that the baby was left alone in the room. She should OWN her mean, personal digs, at least Kelly does. My heart broke for Meghan. I’m glad I didn’t have a camera crew following me around my first year of mothering.
I don’t like Peggy but, damn, Vicki is a coward. These girls treated Vicki like scum and Vicki couldn’t work an empathetic nerve to say “fuck off” to Tamra/Shannon/Meghan as they ganged up on Peggy ?
I agree completely! Vicki is only looking out for herself here. She showed no loyalty to Peggy at all!
Vicki probably thought Peggy was wrong and Peggy was. I don’t blame Vicki for staying out of that fight. Peggy is fake and has said some nasty things. Just because the other women react, doesn’t mean they’re wrong.
At the very least, Vickie could have asked them to back off. Vicki is a really weak person. it’s really clear how little tolerance her daughter has for her BS. She DOES expect other people to fight for her but she won’t do the same for them in return. The best example was with Kelly last year. She sat like a frightened little mouse on that bus home from Ireland. It’s not attractive.
Vicki will do ANYTHING to stay on the show. I hadn’t watched any of this season since the first episode but nothing has changed. Cast overhaul needed ASAP.
I guess I’m off on my own island with this bit I do feel that Peggy didn’t bring up the audio recording of .the baby crying in order to attack Meghan. I think the baby crying was what led her into the hall where she then “heard” the ladies “laughing at her”. I feel sorry for Peggy quite often because she seems to be unable to quickly defend herself. Her explanations need to be heard and understood with some patience. Instead too often the other ladies immediately jump to a conclusion which Peggy then tries to amend but no one gives her the courtesy of confirming with her exactly what she means. I believe there is a real language problem. I don’t care if she has an English degree from UCLA -she obviously has some kind of English problems. She doesn’t seem to have the ability to comprehend or express herself as quickly as the others and they jump on her before she even finishes talking. This is especially true of Tamra, Kelly and Shannon -it sometimes seem like they don’t even try to understand what she means before they loudly and vehementally jump down her throat. Then Peggy gets more flustered ,feels misunderstood and communication gets completely lost. All that being said, I also believe Peggy comes from a very different culture and that leads to a very different belief system than we see with the others. All this adds up to a stew of discombobulating. Fun times!
I thought Tamra was particularly harsh in this regard at the table tonight. She piled on fast and loud right from the get-go with Peggy.
Shannon. Shannon. Shannon. She used to be one of my favourite housewives but that ship sailed a long time ago. I always hated how harshly she (and Tamra) judged Vicki for Brooks’ cancer fraud. The shown on the programme never showed Vicki as anything more tan a gullible victim herself. I believe that she may have deceived herself when warning signs were all around her but that’s understandable when she was used to defending him from constant criticism since day one of their relationship. He was a con man. He conned her. I’m not saying this because I’m prejudiced in her favour. She has never
been a particular favourite of mine. Maybe I’m coming from a slightly different perspective because I’m a lawyer?
Shannon has gone off the deep end this season. It’s been difficult to watch her histrionics and bitterness. And to blame Vicki for her gaining weight??!! It’s obvious that her marriage is over and I think their separation and probable divot is the best thing for everyone in that family, including the girls.
On the other hand, I hope that Lydia comes back. I enjoy her a lot.
Well -sorry for getting all that off my chest-I enjoy your site very much TT -thankyou for all the time and effort you put in !
You must have missed the part where Peggy told Lydia she heard the baby crying for 14 minutes and questioned Meghan’s parenting style. She also called Meghan a giraffe somewhere in the conversation. It was only after the ladies freaked out that she claimed she only mentioned the baby crying as the reason she was in the hallway.
I watched it and did not see that. But then, with them all talking over each other it is hard to understand what they said.
It was at the beginning of the show when Peggy and Lydia were talking in the hotel room.
It was almost impossible for me to follow anything Peggy said on that trip. Lydia looked as confused as I was trying to understand any of her remarks and complaints
Exactly. Peggy must follow the blogs that call Meghan a giraffe. That scene summed up Peggy’s intentions. Lydia along with Vicki didn’t back up Peggy at that dinner because they knew she was dead wrong and nasty.
IKR? She didn’t come up with that one alone. She got it from trolling these blogs! HaHA!
Vicki deserved the harsh criticism and more with regards to cancer gate. Vicki herself, made up lies about going to chemo, calling Terry in the middle of the night and making binders with colored tabs. All during the discussions of Brooks’ cancer, week after week, we see Vicki and her Club Detox buddy grinning from ear to ear thinking they’re going to make big bucks from all this. The three of them go see a phony doctor to show the world that Brooks’ has cancer but Club Detox can fix it! Then, when the truth comes out, Vicki turns to a ANOTHER cancer scam. She deserves the harsh treatment, and then some.
Well said justanothermary, I agree 100%
How soon some people are willing to forget Vicki’s backstory. One of those job hazards you have Vicki… you are recorded for all time and eternity. Ha!
You nailed that statement to a wall and I agree 100 % bout vicki
great post JANICE!
i like peggy also i felt she was treated horribly all season long. i think the whole point of her recording was to out tamra and kelly. i have no doubt they were trashing her. i understand that meghan (or her nanny) were doing some kind of “crying out” training for the baby, but the hotel is NOT the place to do that. pick up the baby and try to comfort her as much as possible so that all of the OTHER guests are not disturbed.
How do you know that the baby wasn’t in the nanny’s arms? Babies can still cry even when they are picked up!
Um, no. She is something like 40 years old and spent nearly her whole life here. Yes, she grew up in an Armenian family, but she went to school I assume in Southern California, which is very culturally diverse. There is no way she can be so clueless unless she is dumb as a rock. She’s either a nasty bitch or stupid.
And that she recorded a baby crying for several minutes without doing a damn thing to help tellls everyone that she didn’t *really* think it was a problem. She was just being a shady bitch.
I get that Bravo hired her to be a loyal friend to Vicki, but she brought nothing else and was not authentic or even slightly likeable. I won’t miss her.
I agree with every word you said. That is rare for me! However we are probably in the minority.
Your entire comment was spot on! Could not agree more! ??
I like Peggy and Meghan is just like the others. She has no problem going in on others for any number of very personal reasons. What I love most about Peggy is that she slaps Shannon down every single time and without a lot of words. Some may not like her, but she really knows how to get under Shannon’s skin. I don’t like Meghan, never have. It was joy joy joy to see Shannon freaking out and showing her true side when Vicky and Tamra made up. And yes, David is an ass, but she married him so that tells a lot about Shannon. I can see how any man would get really tired of her and her constant offendedness and narcissism.
I like Peggy and Lydia. I love when Peggy puts her hands over her ears, those bitches are so loud.
I couldn’t hang with Kelly and Shannon. They are always screaming
Also you are not really practicing your anger management when you are screaming, “I throw nukes”, I think Kelly probably failed that class.
Lydia is so spot on with Shannon, EVERYTIME. She is right about her. Hopefully with hormones and no man, Shannon will be better. Plus Lydia has great hair and pretty awesome wardrobe. Wish she was staying another season.
Peggy looked high on something when Lydia was in her room- both eyes were going in different directions. Yikes.
I thought she looked exhausted, as if she’d been crying for some time. She told Lydia she had just woken up. She doesn’t usually drink and I have a good radar for drug use (I’m a recovering addict).
Nah, she is medicated on something. Just bc she doesn’t really drink doesn’t mean anything…I’ve grown up around and known ppl who don’t drink but do other things so I have quite the radar myself. Not to mention her recording them and staying in her room for hours.
looks like vicki will be pretty lonely next season! ryan and briana have sold their home and are moving to north carolina for “the simpler life.”
What is that about,do they say any more? Has he got a job there?
Wow, where did you read that? They just spent all that money purchasing then renovating the home. Vicki must be really upset. At least North Carolina is pretty but I’m sure she’ll be bored and hate it. : (
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/11/07/briana-and-ryan-culberson-are-moving-to-north-carolina/
Peggy is not a good fit for this group. I wonder if she will fare better with Beverly Hills ladies!! As I said before, she needs girlfriends and a life outside of Diko. Her inability to interact with people of different social behaviors is glaring.
Doubtful. Kyle’s MIL and Vanderpump HATE her bc of the issues with her brother.
Worst dresses… Vicki in an over short; too tight dress… and Peggy in the Overdressed gown from hell that was so sheer you could see thru it when she hit the light walking to van.
A for Peggy, who in their right mind lurks in hallways for ten or more minutes recording baby cries and laughing.. really had to be longer than that. I already will hate the reunion.. with Peggy on it!
These women epitomize the fact that it doesn’t matter how nice your shoes are, if you cannot walk in them gracefully, you look absurd. Like a baby deer trying to stand for the first time lol
LOL Shae! Vicki is the worse at trying to walk in heels.
and I’m sure they cost a bundle, too lol
all that money to look a fool
Peggy is a lying bitch. She tried to backpeddle by saying she only took note of the time and came into the hallway to hear the ladies talking about her because “she heard meghan’s baby crying”. Horseshit, you talked smack to Lydia about “giraffe” woman who let her baby cry for ten mins, bla bla bla totally criticizing and judging Meghan’s mothering skills.
Sorry, but my mother believed sometimes you have to let a baby cry it out, you cannot run an smother and coddle every time they fuss. You make sure the baby is physically ok, fed, dry, etc. and sometimes you have to let them self soothe. Meghan explained they were trying to do some type of conditioning with the baby, probably to teach her to calm down on her own. Who knows. She has a NANNY there and her mother, and I’m sure nobody has left a crying child unattended and vulnerable. What a fucking bitch.
I simply do not buy it, you grew up here, you were educated here, you have a “degree” in english and you cannot fucking articulate or understand the simplest of communication. She really cannot express herself clearly at all, she makes zero fucking sense.
I felt terrible for Meghan, and while I despise Kelly, and she clearly was not issuing a genuine apology, she is right about Peggy. She’s fake as fuck and Kelly’s right to have had her fill of her.
Also, Lydia was correct, Kelly wasn’t really trying to comment on Peggy’s father. I don’t think she realized shooting back with “well i’ll have my dad call your dad” after Peggy’s ridiculous, “well, I’m going to have my husband call your husband”, was insensitive given Peggy’s recent loss. I think she spaced on that in the moment, it was not intentional.
Right? This is like the greatest HW mystery of all times. Is Peggy’s staple confusion and lack of communication skills a cover for her dull personality? Is it a conscious decision or subconscious? The worst part is – we will never know.
Can someone please find an old YouTube video her speaking normally ala Dorito?
I’ve grow up around a lot of people like Peggy. I’ve lived In and around NYC all my life. You grow up with people of ever nationality here. I remember playing with kids whose parents were immigrants-i’d visit there homes and go to these huge birthday parties where I was one of the few people of a different nationality. They were born here, educated here but they never fully assimilate. They hang out mostly with people from the same background and they’re very sheltered-especially the women. I’ve thought it odd how some have accents even though they were born here. I’ve had a higher tolerance for her this season, she’s no saint, she’s made mistakes (like all of them) but she was always going to be in over her head with these women.
thank you sliceo’pie. YES, the armenian community in california, especially westwood are STRONG, it is easy to be brought up in that culture and have an accent and not be too assimilated into the typical american cutlure. they all frequent the same stores, the same grocery stores, the same homes, etc…… is it not THAT unbelievable. i do like peggy, mistakes and all and feel like most of them treated her horribly, especially tamra and kelly. of course, they treat EVERYONE horribly. you nailed it!.
same here slice o’ pie, queens born and raised, you definitely still have people with heavy accents who are immersed in their culture. that’s fine. it’s not peggy’s accent that’s the problem, it’s the fact she is linguistically challenged, period, and can’t seem to form a coherent sentence or understand what’s being said to her, despite holding an ivy league degree in english. One would assume you need to have a solid grasp of the spoken and written word to get through a bachelor’s program at UCLA. That school is no joke.
Many of my close friends’ parents arrived in this country later in life, I can understand them having trouble, but Peggy was raised here. Conversational english shouldn’t baffle her so lol
Same. You will find this in many groups of immigrants- some just never get out of their native culture here in the USA. It’s the same with South Americans, etc. I know MANY Brazilians who never get out of their comfort zone once here but for example my significant other absolutely hates that and has a diverse group of friends.
Agree with your post.. Hit Them all for faking fir camera not Tamra time!
I just finished watching the rest of the episode, and I noticed that her accent seemed to fade away during her lunch with Vicki, amazing how that happened as she realized how Vicki and Bravo used her. That phony mask slipped real good there. I hope she got a good paycheck, at least, for doing her job.
Mommy shaming is real, and alive and well in this day and age. Babies need to learn coping habits. Sometimes they just need to cry, while someone is there to reassure them with comforting words and presence.
Easy to judge someone’s mothering skills without walking a mile in their shoes. If I saw signs of neglect or abuse, I would be the first one interfering. If not, I keep my f**king opinions to myself on parenting.
I felt bad for Peggy; I never like to see someone getting ganged up on. That being said, I understand it, because she’s SO FUCKING ANNOYING. If I was traveling with her I’d lose my shit too.
I really don’t understand the casting decisions on HW’s, I feel like the average viewer would be able to do a much better job then whatever smo is doing it now.
Vicki reminds me of Mariah Cary, dressing too young, trying to stuff 10 pounds of flour into a five pound sack and wearing heels so high that you have to hold someone’s hand.
LMFAO yes.
she would look infinitely better if she wore more age appropriate clothes that actually fit her and shoes she could walk in. I don’t mean she has to dress like an old maid, but maybe leave the cut out, low cut, supertight dresses for the 20 somethings lol
If Peggy had recorded my child crying and then questioned my parenting in front of everyone she would have been removing that phone from her tuchas!
I am sure that off screen, Meghan is a wonderful mom, but she knows that every move that she makes as a new mom will be scrutinized to the inth degree and for a new and young mom that would be overwhelming. Since Peggy likes for the men to get involved and handle the squabbles, then fine, let little Diko discuss with Jim how Peggy came for his wife out of nowhere AND questioned her mothering skills…I would buy tickets for that.
She was probably told by production to bring up the crying etc
I thought she heard the baby crying for 10 minutes and went into the hallway to make sure everything was alright and that is when she overheard them laughing and screaming and decided to record it. The crying was only the reason why she went there not to show Meghan as a bad mother. She was upset about what she over heard about her in the other room.jmo
If Peggy says she went into the hall because she heard the baby crying and then instead of a) knocking the door or b) went to let the mother know and simply recorded it instead she is still a complete cunt! She thought the child was in distress but did nothing, that makes her an arsehole. She was just looking for a reason to be relevant by end of season recontracts.
It seems to be pretty widely agreed on this forum that there is something “off” about Peggy’s speech or verbal skills. It seems especially confusing since she apparently does have an English degree. I wonder if she might have some degree of Asberger’s? This would fit with her difficulty communicating with the others, her problem in reacting to social cues, her confusion reading the others and responding to social cues. She often seems honestly perplexed regarding social interaction. My brother has this condition and it makes the person have real difficulties fitting in with others. I honestly don’t see this as malicious on her part. I think she actually doesn’t understand sometimes and she gets frustrated. Just a thought.
I 100% believe it is cultural and she is out of her element. I don’t believe she has Asberger’s. I just don’t see it.
@sliceo’pie…..i 100% agree. there are not many on this particular forum that understand the armenian/middle eastern lifestyle in this country.
It’s not just that, though. The key element is her degree in English – if that wasn’t a factor then no one would even be questioning.
Yes It’s just a bachelors degree (I think), but even non lit majors have aggressive English pre reqs with dozens of different essay and complex reading assignments. An English major would be that x10.
I have a very good friend who is French sometimes when we are out and someone says something, she looks at me and says please explain. She’s very educated she has lived in the U.S. quite a longtime however, she gets that I’m lost look during conversations when in group settings.
You mean she doesn’t say, “What means _______?” Because she is educated?
it is her to a tee .
Are you serious? Do you not have any friends from other countries that have thick accents and figure of speech different to yours? Peggy no doubt grew up speaking her mother’s tongue and not english growing up
Your comment is ridiculous
Peggy is downright cruel. After realizing not to come for Kelly ever again, she goes for Meghan’s throat…needlessly. I felt bad for Meghan and was happy to see the other ladies defend her. I cannot understand Peggy at all. I was glad she pulled an international Vicki and escaped getting her arse handed to her by hopping the next flight out.
I’ve never felt real sympathy for Shannon, until this episode. I would have FREAKED out on my husband if I came home and my fur baby wasn’t eating and panting like that! I have a Golden Retriever as well and as Shannon posted on IG, Archie was legitimately sick. Like what type of cold asshole doesn’t think a dog NOT EATING is normal? Goldens are piggies– they love to eat. And they don’t pant like that while calm. I felt so much for Shannon in that scene and related to her obvious love and affection for her pup. I might be a cold bitch at times but damn right my dog is also one of my best friends and I tell her “mommy loves you best” because I do (I don’t have kids so relax).
But neglecting the family dog? I wanted to reach through the screen and put David in a dog crate and leave him alone for about a week.
He was definitely acting like a complete jackhole. Everyone knows an animal not eating is cause for worry (and I mean not eating, occasional pickiness is to be expected) . I know he hasn’t given 2 shits about Shannon for years, but the dog gets his derision, too? What an ass.
Ugh!
IShannon is the most annoying disruptive attention seeker that ever drew breath (except for Tamra Judge). Why do they have to shout & carry on like drunken bogans? Her behaviour is horrendous.. always making a spectacle of herself
I like Vickie but don’t understand why she offers Peggy zero support with these bitches. Why is Vickie so needy for Tamra’s affection? I do not understand it at all.
Peggy is nice girl. I love it when she tells the ladies how it is.. They can’t cope with it. Kelly almost has a meltdown when Peggy reminds her that she was not in fact drinking when Kelly & the gang were absolutely smashed These women are always drunk.
Get rid of the bitching & keep Peggy, Lydia & Vickie. I don’t want to see drunken 50 year old women on tv. It’s so boring. I would love to see more of Lydia & peggy’s fabulous lives.
I like Peggy. I don’t think she was picking on the giraffes parenting but trying to explain how she came about listening to them laughing at and insulting her. Time for trailer trash Tamra, Shan-loon and Meaghan the twatwaffle to roll out…
Did you not see the entire first portion of her conversation with Lydia? she was going on an on about how long the baby was crying for ten minutes, and where was meghan, and why would you let your baby cry like that, etc.
lydia said “well wasn’t her cousin in there, the nanny, I’m sure she wasn’t alone” and peggy was like I don’t know, but how do you leave your baby crying like that, if that’s how you want to raise your kid, etc. then called her a giraffe.
she wasn’t talking about the other ladies at that point and how she came to be in the hall to overhear and record them, she was talking about aspen crying, and why she was crying for so long, and where was her mother, etc. and passing her nasty judgment.
peggy is a boring, ridiculous addition. she’s been here all her life – i think the language barrier is fake!!!! she has an english degree. she uses it when things are heated. she is really off and who is she to call out someones parenting and record it??? on the other hand, i question all mehgan’s drinking — she’s supposed to be breastfeeding. she wanted a baby so badly and went through vasectomy reversal (jim) and invitro!!! why doesn’t she just stay home and take care of her baby???? i was very surprised she even came back to the show.
Jim didn’t have his vasectomy reversed, he’d had some of his sperm frozen before he had the vasectomy originally prior to his marriage to Meghan. Hence the episode where Meghan and Jim had to drive the cryo container from the sperm bank to the clinic themselves. I think Meghan is incrediibly stressed out and extra drinking may be an outlet for her. I’m not judging it one way or another, just an observation.