Bethenny tweeted today that she was keeping her WWHL commitment because Andy has been so kind to her about Cookie, she will dissolve if she’s home alone and needs to keep busy and because he has been so generous with his donations to her Puerto Rico relief fund.
So I can’t let this one wait until tomorrow I have to see how Bethenny is doing after her dog passed away and in a very long drawn out set of circumstances. We’ve only gotten to the introduction and Andy looks high as a kite. I’ve been recapping this shit show for years and perhaps more often than not I point out that Andy seems drunk or high and pretty much every week he focuses on sex and does sexually inappropriate things. So I was really perplexed at the number of people who seemed shocked by Kathy Griffin’s accusations over the weekend when it has always been such an open secret. Andy wears his perversions and addictions and misogyny as badges of honor. They are probably listed directly on his resumé.
Sean Avery is Andy’s very close “straight” friend. The quotes are due to years of speculation that these two are more than friends. He’s single and he watches housewives. I’m just saying.
Andy starts right away rightly praising Bethenny for her unbelievable efforts in Texas, Mexico and Puerto Rico. She really has done, and is continuing to do more for the people of Puerto Rico than the government has, somehow getting relief to places the government “can’t get to” and evacuating critically ill people to the mainland. Please continue to give to the efforts in Puerto Rico as 70% of the island is still without power and clean water is still unavailable in lots of areas as well.
Andy offers condolences to Bethenny over Cookie’s death. Bethenny thanks those of us on social media for helping her through a difficult time when she didn’t know what to do.
Andy lists off Bethenny’s work in Puerto Rico. FORTY flights in and out of Puerto Rico, bringing in supplies and evacuation out the sick and the elderly. She also found places to put the evacuees. She raised $287,000 so far on top of the planes that she had donated. She raised $770,000 raised for gift cards. $100,000 raised for Houston and Florida. Andy says the total is $4million. Bethenny says as of now there have been over fifty flights and over $10 million in goods and services raised. That’s because she is still going. There is still so much work to do. Bethenny points out that Andy gave generously herself. She also asks us not to forget about Mexico who is also still in a mess from the hurricanes. I’d like to add the fires in the Pacific Northwest to the list myself.
Bethenny has been drinking vodka all day and has a big dirty martini on the set and the swear words are flying and half of them got through the delay during the three games they played in a row. For the record, no genitalia was involved in these games.
A caller asks Bethenny if any of her fellow housewives have donated to her relief fund. She said Tinsley was the first one and she came in very, very big. Ramona has donated twice. Dorinda was in a cooking contest and donated her winnings to the cause. Lisa Rinna also donated. Oddly, no mention of her BFF Carole. Andy says that he’s seeing a NYC Mayoral run in Bethenny’s future. She says that Dennis has been saying that for a long time. I think she would be fabulous. She knows how to get stuff done. She says she can get stuff done but she likes to be in her pajamas and she doesn’t know a ton about politics. I say the fact that she knows Puerto Rico is part of the United States puts her ahead of half the people already in office.
Sean has a new book out where he totally rips on Dallas and the people there. Of course Andy giddily reads that section of the book. You know what else Dallas doesn’t like, Sean? Closeted Yankees. Also in the book was the rumor that Sean was engaged to Andy Cohen. Sean’s father called to ask him if he was gay. So it’s not just us that wonder. Andy went so far as to deny it. Sean has also had some spectacular meltdowns. I think he can deny being gay and still be in a relationship with Andy. Bethenny asks Andy if that is why he used to wear that ring. Funny she should ask. That is what started the rumors. She has to know that. Bethenny points out he doesn’t wear it anymore. Interesting. Bethenny knows stuff.
At one point while talking about Sean’s forthrightness in his book, Bethenny says everyone is so afraid to say anything these days. She seems to kind of allude to Kathy Griffin when she says that sometimes people go over the line but the consequences are so harsh lately. Why can’t we just acknowledge someone went over the line and then let them back over the line instead of pushing them out forever. Andy muttered something like “The way this year is going, everyone will be taken down before it’s over.” We can only hope so, Andy.
Bethenny mocks the hell out of Andy for his, “sappy, ridiculous, seersuckered, Sag Harbor, special where you were like ‘shockwaves sent through the nation’…” This is why I love Bethenny.
The Mazel goes to Sean accompanied by the gayest montage of his ass pics ever. Some were nude. Then at the end they threw in Bethenny’s nude run into the pool in Mexico. You know, to make it less gay.
At the very end, Andy leans over and puts his hand on Bethenny’s knee to shake it while saying “So sorry about your day.” Bethenny was chatting with Sean while he was ending the show (Andy hates that) and they just kept talking. It was awesome.
Don’t you find it weird that Carole apparently didn’t donate to Bethenny’s hurricane relief fund?
Well, everyone is being outed for their sexual misbehavior, so how long will it be before one of the gay arm candies that Andy likes to have behind the bar makes some kind of complaint? Andy is always leering and making grossly inappropriate remarks, so it’s not out of the question that this could happen. I figure if he acts so out of line while he’s on camera, how does he act when he’s not being filmed? When I used to work for a County prosecutor, one of our investigators got in big trouble for going up to a co-worker he hadn’t seen in a while and giving her a hug. That’s minor compared to a lot of crap going on, but still constitutes sexual harassment in this day and age. People need to be ridiculously careful, even in what seem like innocent situations, but I’m very glad the most egregious perpetrators are being named and forced to face the music.
Ok, here is my take on it. I respect your opinion and completely agree with you that people need to be ridiculously careful. I was a high school teacher in my early 20s, much skinnier and cuter than now, and yes, had some students that had crushes. (Once had a kid ask me out on a date in front of the entire class. The little shit. I was a student teacher and only 22). Luckily I had some forewarning, and was able to put the kid on blast by telling him, in front of all his friends “I’m sorry, you need to tell your parents that I don’t babysit in the off hours”. But a couple of years later Mary Kay LeTourneau was all over the news (that bitch pedophile. I hate her). I want to see the egregious perps taken down. I’m livid about how Kevin Spacey “came out”.
However, in the entertainment industry, when you are willing to put that slightly naughty boy attitude on open display on your show? We have no idea if that is an indication of his behavior behind the scenes in the studio. (Does he probably hit on young dudes when single and in a gay bar? Um, YEAH. What the fuck are bars for? If it is of mutual consent, it isn’t any of my business).
I keep thinking that everyone thought of Dean Martin as a lush who always had whiskey in his glass. But news flash, that was apple juice. Marilyn Monroe wasn’t always a breathy ditz either. He’s gone now, but I knew her one time studio publicist. He once told me she was actually very smart – that it was no surprise to him that she loved someone like Arthur Miller (and he her), and if she hadn’t been addicted to drugs and suicidal, they would have had an amazing life together.
I’m a little conflicted about this Kevin Spacey ordeal. I try to be 100% sex positive and be conscious regarding rape culture, victim shaming, etc. etc. however I REALLY can’t see the huge ordeal over this.
30+ years ago, Kevin Spacey laid on you, you left, haven’t spoken sense, and now you’re so traumatized?
What was especially harrowing with Weinstein was the sheer aggression of his harassment – in the sting operation he just wouldn’t take ‘no’ for an answer for minutes on end. This wasn’t that. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this Spacey one, and it seems like the rage cycle is just so hungry for the next outrage victim.
Nah, 14 is way inappropriate. Adults should not be hitting on 14 year olds. I think it would have been much less of a big deal if he hadn’t tried to make it seem like a gay thing. Gay men have been battling the idea that they’re coming for people’s children for ages.
The thing is though, we don’t know the intent. This was apparently at a Hollywood party. It could be VERY easy to assume a dressed up 14 year old at an adult part full of glamorous young things was, in fact, of age. I was dating and clubbing at 15. Spacey was 26 at the time. I’ve seen plenty of 18 year olds dating 26 year olds.
If he KNEW he was 14, thats a different story.
Did you read the entire account? He knew. Google what the guy looked like at the time (someone called up his playbill picture at the time. He looked 9, not 14.
Kevin is the one who invited him to the party (the guy addresses where his parents are… just remember that times WERE different then). The kid was so naive that he didn’t like the partying so he found a bedroom and watched TV.
Oh, and he lifted the kid up and put him on his (Kevin’s) bed and THEN laid on him. This wasn’t a wrestling match. I’d have your back there.
Also, in the original article, people have confirmed that he told them. It wasn’t exactly something that would have probably brought convictions.
I think the outrage is that he used coming out to deflect what he did.
If he had said, oh my god, I don’t remember this. I was doing a LOT of drugs at the time and I assure you, any person I have been with since then has been of age and it was consensual and left it at that, I’d maybe hear ya. (Hell, I’m giving Bush Sr. a pass on crabbing because of his age and the dementia!)
Mark, your attempts to justify pedophilia based on your childhood promiscuity is a bad look. Typically kids that are sexually active and gong to clubs at 15, as you say you were have been victims of child abuse. Don’t be so quick to write that off as nothing. for the child in question here or for yourself if it applies.
Thank you.
I’m a little conflicted about this Kevin Spacey ordeal. I try to be 100% sex positive and be conscious regarding rape culture, victim shaming, etc. etc. however I REALLY can’t see the huge ordeal over this.
30+ years ago, Kevin Spacey laid on you, you left, haven’t spoken since, and now you’re so traumatized?
What was especially harrowing with Weinstein was the sheer aggression of his harassment – in the sting operation he just wouldn’t take ‘no’ for an answer for minutes on end. This wasn’t that. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this Spacey one, and it seems like the rage cycle is just so hungry for the next outrage victim.
A lot of outrage that I read had to do with the simple fact that homophobia has constantly been linked to pedophilia by the anti-gay lunatics. Issuing a kind of generic apology for something he may or may not have done (he was drunk, okay?) and then ending it with “btw I’m gay” really sucks. Neither gay or straight adults should be picking up a 14 year then proceed to lay on top of them on a bed.
What was “harrowing” about the incident was this young mans age. Believe it or not, before the Kardashians, and the Hiltons, 14 year olds were still rather innocent, and this would be constitutes as sexual advances with an under aged boy. Which is illegal.
Not sure how anyone is conflicted over this. An adult made a pass at a child. A child, by the looks of his pictures at the time, looked very much like a child. Spacey knew the kid. The child was watching TV in a bedroom when Spacey came in. Sorry, drunk, not drunk, gay, not gay – none of that is the point, and shouldn’t be the point.
The kid brings it up 30 years later, because that shit NEVER GOES AWAY.
For Spacey to use this as the time to reveal his sexuality – and really, who cares anymore – was horrific and just gave anti-LGBQT crowd some ammo to equate pedophilia with sexual orientation. It’s disgusting, really.
I thought Bethenny was alluding to both Andy and Kathy when she mentioned walking the line and sometimes crossing it. I didn’t catch all of it, but Andy did mention the whole mishegas with Kathy today on his radio show. He said he’d go into more detail because we all deserve to know but there were planned guests.
He DID confirm that he was using the Mariah Carey method of dealing with those kinds of questions when she is asked about Jennifer Lopez, but it obviously fell flat. Said after he left the airport, he honestly didn’t think it was a big deal. John Hill confirmed that when he met Andy for lunch (right after this) Andy wasn’t upset and didn’t even mention it. It was a non-event in his eyes.
But back to WWHL. I loved it. I think Andy loved it. B did the right level of calling Andy out with that seer sucker special comment. I was cracking up and so did he. He also did a great job of acknowledging Cookie, giving B the opportunity to thank social media, but not dwelling on it to the point she lost her shit (hell, I thought Andy sounded more choked up than she did at the beginning – and I so get that.)
Carol is probably saving up for a reversal of that horrible facelift and new set of teeth…ones that look natural and not like a demented horse.
Omg thank you!!!! I thought I was the only one. What is so special about Carol? I can’t stand that pompous self ritcious bitch!!
She thinks her shit don’t stink but her nose. Is turned up so bad She’s smelling something, or snorting it.
She thinks because of her “”Keneddy” connections she can test people like carp that don’t act the way she deems fit. Meanwhile a pole cat had better ethics,, morals, etiquette,and natural human instincts then Kennedy did.
Don’t get me wrong President Kennedy was a president to remember but if elected today would be crucified for his hugh heffner treatment of women.
Self rictus is such an accidentally perfect description.
Carole is cheap and selfish so I’m not really surprised. Not sure why Bethenny forgot to mention that Luann offered to go over and put her nursing skills to work, but was ignored. At least she’s finding other ways to help.
Sorry to hear about cookie finally passing and I don’t blame Bethenny for drinking vodka all day. That’s a though one.
Girl, don’t “offer” you nursing skills to intermediary, go there and be a nurse. This sounds just like a try to hop on good PR platform.
Like other people, Andy, could have donated without having to be publicly acknowledged because they are having a bad week.
I think Carole probably did and Bethenny forgot to mention it, she is in a state, honestly. Between the crisis work and now poor Cookie. Amazing she kept the commitment but then again, she would, she’s a beast and can push through most anything.
If a reality show host with zero political experience or knowledge can be president, she can be mayor of NY. I would vote for her in a hot minute lol
I think Bethenny probably just forgot too. Carole has been promoting B’s efforts on Instagram, and she is definitely not “cheap and selfish”, she gives/works for/promotes many causes. I would be honestly shocked if she had not donated.
This woman’s actions have made me seriously respect her even if I don’t want to hang out with her. Andrews really working on sucking in the gut in these pics.
Ha. I noticed that, too.
And agree with Popcorn about Carole.
For what it’s worth, Sean Avery is married to model Hillary Rhoda, but their relationship has always seemed a little creepy and off to me.
Thanks for recapping this TT! I loved this episode, all three of them seemed amped up and happy to to be there in spite of cookies passing etc.
and clearly Andy is trying to play match maker again between these two.. but I kind of had to agree they had definite chemistry.. maybe Dennis will get the boot?
I laughed so hard when she came back at him with “I’ve written 10 books seeetie”! Only B could over shit talk Sean Avery! Somewhere Michael Rappaport is loosing his shit over this episode!!
I think Bethenny simply forgot to mention Carol. I think when you are very close with someone you get so used to them being there you simply forget to acknowledge them – in the sense that you take them for granted a bit – and that is a natural thing that occurs in a close relationship (though if it gets pushed too far it can cause problems, of course). I think that’s why Bethenny forgot to mention Carol.
I am in the minority here, but I felt the chemistry between the three of them was awkward. It was like Andy wanted to give them both equal camera time but couldn’t pick a BFF. Usually, someone is in the “second” chair and Andy seemed to feel uncomfortable that Sean wasn’t sitting next to him. He gushed over Sean’s book even though the bartender’s book was culturually more important (A Rollingstone photographer does not a Bravolebrity make). I think Bethanny was jealous that Luanne got a Barbara Walters/Oprah-esque special about her divorce. Luanne got serious camera time and Bethanny gave Andy shit for it. She is a producer afterall, and if she was in charge, Luanne would have to face more of a firing squad than Andy in Sag Harbor. I thought Bethanny’s correction about the 10 million dollars sounded materialisic —she gave more than anyone in the world and she wanted us to know that no matter how much we give, it Bethanny will give millions more. I admire her efforts and totally respect her for walking the walk when it comes to charity,and not just showing up for a day to toss a roll of paper towels into the crowd, but she comes across as self-absorbed. Sean’s ass selfies were so cringeworthy…especially the thong one. I needed a Purell Shower after this episode and usually I am down for WWHL hijinks. PJ
She gave Andy shit over that special because it WAS all over Barbara Walters type of interview except for the smudgy Doris Day lighting! The last thing B would have wanted was a similar hash over of her divorce… B has had her spin offs, much more than Lu. They begged B to come back, and Lu was reduced to a FOH (and worked her way back up, kudos to her).
I agree with you PJ bottoms! I think Bethenny was jealous that LuAnn had a special. That’s who Bethenny is as a person! We have been watching her for years. She has never ever been supportive of another cast member. I also think her charity work has everything to do with self promotion and changing her image than actually caring about victims.
Can’t stand Meth. She’s still all about me, me, me…even her charity work, while great, is still a calling card for “look at me, I’m Sandra Dee”…videoing her freak out over Cookie’s demise – I mean, let’s be real, she was 17 years old…it’s not a surprise she was in her final year and she should’ve had Bryn’s feelings foremost in mind to not freak out the way she did. And to tape it and post it on SM?!? #gurlbye
I would love to see TT call you all those right names!
Jesus fucking Christ, she didn’t “tape” it… she aired it live, and Cookie wasn’t dead! She was looking for help – and actually got it. You’d know that if you had paid attention to either the show or TT’s blog.
Honestly, it doesn’t do children harm to see their parents upset, crying, grieving, or otherwise expressing healthy emotions.
I’m a longtime Bethenny fan. I’ll never forget that walk over the bridge with Ramona. Whatever knocks her down, she rises again and again.
Losing Cookie must have broken her heart. My own sweet dog is 13. Bet she was on lots of meds last night. Her eye makeup person did a great job.
Oh that bridge… Ramona has never fully recovered in my estimation from that. I want to like her then I remember that, and then she does something pretty much as reprehensible.
Yes, and what is most wierd is Ramona does not come from money so her adversity to Brooklyn is ridiculous.
She seems so out of touch with who she is.
I think that like her husband’s family, Carole likes to make her donations very privately.
Surely there are straight men not in Hollywood that have bare bun photos like Sean Avery, I just have not seen them. Oops, except straight men in porno.
Certainly looks like an advertisement for one of those raunchy men only hookup sites.
I’m so pleased to see most people supporting Bethanny, she seems content, more settled.
I have always liked Bethenny and I am not popular when I say it .The show needed her back and when she came back it worked for them. .WWHL is not a show I usually watch just when there is a person that I have interest in cause Andy is not a person I find interesting at all.
I read somewhere that Carole has been concentrating on donations toward the animals in Houston, Florida and Puerto Rico I remember reading that Bethenny respected Caroles efforts for the animals. Even though they are going in different directions with their help, they respect what the other is doing to help.