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2017 Shahs Of Sunset Reunion Part 1: Secrets, Lies & Broken Ties

October 22, 2017 by tamaratattles 79 Comments

The thing about these people is that even though some of them knew each other before the show, none of these people are actually friends. Even if the were friends in the beginning, the reality show has them all turning on each other for a dollar. It’s sad.  You often hear people say, “money is the root of all evil.” That’s not true and it is also a misquote.  The actual quote is 1 Timothy 6:10, ” For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”  To be fair, the Quran has a bit of a different take on wealth. In general wealth if fine as long as you are using it to support your family.

During the greetings, which Andy did in horrific Farsi for some reason, Andy asked Asa if the baby was there. She said, “No but he might be coming later because I’m breastfeeding.” Which was fine to say. Then she had to go on and say, “Which is a lot of work, by the way.” Oh, Asa, I am team you, but that is the sort of thing the haters cling to and will say it makes you seem dramatic.

Andy wants everyone who has had work done to raise their hands. MJ refuses to raise hers and says that she is not going to discuss that question. Andy tells her that she has been complaining all season that Asa in not transparent. Point for Andy!  Asa says that everyone one on the stage is open and transparent about the things they choose to be.  Asa says to MJ, “For example are those your natural lips?” When MJ lies and says yes, Asa says they know people who went to high school with MJ and those are not her natural lips. 

Mike suddenly goes in on GG for no reason. It’s so confusing to me and to Andy that he just decides to move on. His target is Asa so he asked her about motherhood. She says it’s two extremes, it’s so magical and joyous but it is so hard. Andy wants to know why she won’t show her son on camera. Because it is a really stupid thing to do that is why! I can think of many babies and children that reality TV viewers have viciously attacked and there is absolutely no need for it. Asa says that Jerome doesn’t want their child to be in the public eye. He’s never asked Bethenny these sort of questions about Bryn.

Asa and Mike get into an argument because Mike believes that Asa made him out to be a racist because he brought up the fact that Jermaine was black. Mike responds with his provided talking points about Asa, “You’re fake, you’re false, you’re a liar.” Mike gives Asa an apology for offending her. Asa accepts it and then says that his casual racism shows his cultural insensitivity to black people. Oh Asa.  Just accept the apology, which seemed sincere, and move on.

On to Israel where the cast also had an issue with Asa. But first we have to clear up that when Reza said, “Fuck Iran” he meant the government that is a terrorist government that stones and kills gay people, not the citizens of Iran.

We see some crazy unseen footage in Israel of a dinner scene that got a bit hostile. There was a dispute over the bill and the owner of the restaurant went crazy because he felt he was owed more money. Reza says he asked for more money and the producer said, “No problem!” and all the guy understood was no and problem. Security had to escort everyone quickly to the van.

Reza called Acca a “Muslim ghetto.” Mike and Reza not being able to be in a Muslim part of Israel was an abhorrent display of religious intolerance in the very community that is celebrated for its religious tolerance. We see a clip of Reza on Hollywood medium where the guy says that Reza’s grandfather wanted to congratulate him on his wedding.  So when we go to heaven instead of enjoying eternal life in a state of spiritual bliss, we’re all going to sit around and watch our families on earth like one eternal reality show? Really? Reza says when he was at the wall he felt an energy embrace him and it was a beautiful moment. Sherv says he saw him feel it and it was amazing. GG pipes up with her feelings of resistance to the whole experience and before she can finish her sentence Mike speaks up to tell her to be very careful what she says because he’s stuck up for her all season. Mike and Reza are offended by GG’s desire to break down the wall. She views it as barrier between the Jews and the Muslims.

It’s time to talk to MJ, Tommy and Vida. MJ said her dad is doing a lot better. MJ takes full responsibility for the huge blowout fight with Tommy. Tommy says he is now ready to have a baby with MJ and cannot wait. Vida says she doesn’t think MJ is ready to have a baby. Vida says that MJ was unplanned and people seem offended by that statement. MJ admits that Vida wasn’t present for her when she was a child and she was raised by her father. The implication is that Vida doesn’t have any say in when MJ is ready because she’s never raised a child.  Vida says she has gotten to know Tommy and she’s starting to like him. Everyone’s jaw drops. She says that Tommy is always cooking great food for her and they walk their dogs together. They seem to have a real bond. Tommy says that he likes Vida more than MJ and that Vida is hilarious and there is no funnier person on the planet than Vida. THEN, VIDA SAYS SHE TOLD MJ THAT IF SHE DOESN’T MARRY TOMMY SHE WILL! Andy is SHOOKETH.  Andy asked when they are going to get married. Tommy says he will marry her today in front of everyone here. Whenever she decides she is ready and her dad is in a good place, he says, “Let’s rock!” Andy says he is ordained in New York. No, you are not ordained, Andy Cohen and never will be. You are licensed to officiate weddings. God he is stupid. MJ ad Tommy seem down with letting Andy marry them in New York. It would be convenient because that is where all of Tommy’s friends and family live.

Andy asks Vida which of the group has been changed for the better. She says Mike has become more mature and more relaxed and for that she likes him. Of course she says Asa has changed for the worse. She trashed her last year on WWHL. She says Asa is the most ungrateful person she came to this country with one suitcase, now she has everything and she owes all that to the show and yet she says she doesn’t watch the show. When the segment ends and Vida is leaving Asa turns to Andy and says, “So you guys just like to bring Vida out to shit on me.” Andy says no, she usually shits on MJ. Someone said, “She did call MJ  ‘unplanned’.” Well, it’s not like she called her a bastard child.

Destiney comes out to join the group. She’s likely to be Asa’s replacement next season. Destiney has a full six feet of weave in.

Sherv says that his relationship with Annalise is an open relationship. Sherv says he lied about being in an exclusive relationship because Annalise did not want it to be public. The cast does not believe him. Destiney just rails on Sherv.  Sherv whips out his iPad and brings up Annalise on Facetime. Andy asks her if she is in an open relationship with Sherv. At this point MJ waddles off the stage muttering, “This is a good time to take a shot. Annalise says yes. She says it is asinine for him to be monogamous when she spends most of her time on the other side of the world. Andy asks her if she is dating in Australia she says she is not and Destiney rolls her eyes and says, “No, of course not.” Why the fuck do you care so much about Sherv’s love life, Destiney? You just made a big deal about screaming that none of the dools on this stage are for you. What are you tracking Shervin’s dool so hard? You seem fascinated and somewhat proprietary with regard to Shervin’s dool. MJ returns and GG and MJ both say that Shervin’s entire interview was scripted.

It’s time to address MJ’s bastard comments. MJ says that she didn’t have any vitriol behind it. So it was a term of endearment, MJ? Who says that about a friend’s baby. Or anyone’s baby for that matter. Asa says she expects nothing less from MJ, but she wants to talk to Reza. She says to them if there was a derogatory term for the baby of two gay men, and someone used that term against his child, she would not just sit there eating her humus. She expected him to shut her down.

Instead of explaining his silence at the nasty words coming from MJ, he shifts the topic to Asa lying about using IVF. Reza says that he was floored when Asa shared that she had used IVF. He says his mind was racing what else was she going to share? That they went to the same doctor? That they were there at the same time? His mind was racing.  Asa says they were not there at the same time. Reza says,”You didn’t tell me that you were worried you were going to bump into her at the doctor’s office?” She says no. Rezas says, “That’s why we are where we are in our relationship.”

Andy asks Reza why he didn’t share the information he had about Asa with MJ. Reza said because Asa told him not to, but that said, he kept hoping that the two would have an honest conversation so they could have supported each other in the situation. Asa says that she and MJ did not have a close relationship at the time. MJ contradicts that saying that actually Asa would call her during that time and they would talk for hours. Asa says MJ is mischaracterizing the relationship.

Andy brings up that Asa froze only male embryos and she got pregnant with a boy he asks if she can see why the group thinks that she was implanted with an embryo and that the pregnancy didn’t just happen the good old-fashioned way.  She says they can think anything. Andy asks if she had IVF. She says yes, she had IVF to make the embryos but her son did not come from one of those embryos. Andy asks if she did IVF because she thought she could not get pregnant, she said no. She said she did IVF to have embryos in case she wanted to get pregnant later. This is actually the exact same reason MJ froze her eggs. She didn’t have anyone in her life when she did that and she wanted to bank her eggs for a future time. It is a bit odd that Asa fertilized her eggs though. Asa also says that she had a conversation with Reza about the eggs all being boys because she wanted a girl also. She said Reza said to try to get pregnant naturally first and maybe you will get your girl and then you will have the boys on ice. Reza admits they had that conversation. Asa says this is why she was so hurt by Reza. He had all the information and continued to rile up the troops to antagonize Asa.

Then because Andy Cohen is the most ratchet person in the world, he polls the group about whether or not they believe her. Mike says he does, everyone else thinks she used an embryo and Reza is the last to answer. Andy asks Reza and he says…

TO BE CONTINUED

Next week: The group thinks that Mike has slept with Jessica within the last year. Shalom joins the crew on the couch sending GG into one of her priceless, overly dramatic, attention seeking routines. The previews imply that Reza thinks gay marriages don’t include fidelity. Mike is sad about how fractured the group is. GG wants Asa to explain why she is on the show.

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  1. sware84 says

    October 22, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    I think Asa’s baby daddy is Jermaine and I felt bad for Asa. The entire time she has “dealt” with their childish antics while she remained the mature bigger person. I agree with vita and reza that she promotes herself and now that she “has it all” she’s turning the page. SHE SHOULD. She needs to move on and I hope her businesses continue to thrive.

    I have a feeling MJ walked out not just because of the obviously scripted thing. When she made the point to say how hard it is to life your life on camera it led me to believe what many have speculated about shervin and that he might be in the closet and using this australian blonde as some sort of beard and everyone knows he’s using his money to keep his true self off of the camera. He seemed very nervous after MJ made the comment. that staged stunt seems like something a man who’s never been in an “open” relationship would do.

    I don’t get why Mike pretends he’s been GG’s ally when he literally trashed her every chance and she has been supportive all season.

    I think you were right about Shalom. he had different intentions but YUCK at her even trying to work things about. He’s clearly in it for the fame and noteriety.

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    • Cgal38 says

      October 23, 2017 at 5:57 am

      You beat me to it! I was going to bring up the MJ comment of the camera and Sherv’s look was everything.

      Which – fine! There’s nothing less exciting to me than someone’s sexuality – who cares. If he’s in an open relationship – great! If it involves men – awesome! Move on!

      Except, not to, how’s Asa get pregnant? Who cares???? She seemed to be a nightmare during her pregnancy – let that be enough if she lied, the obsession over whether it was natural was ridiculous; I’m not sure why she wouldn’t admit it if it was in vitro but….who cares! I watch bravo for the ridiculous people doing ridiculous things, not the obsession over medical issues. Maybe it’s natural: she’s only 39, MJ herself went to the dr to check her fertility when she was over 40. Maybe it’s not: getting pregnant can be difficult, that’s why we are fortunate to have procedures to do so. Great, let’s move on.

      I think Rez and MJ are just so pissed that they’re not the only stars of the show, they put a lot out there in the beginning g and now others are profiting, and not showing as much. But they need to come to peace with that, accept life isn’t fair, and start fixing their real lives and relationships.

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  2. Oopsey says

    October 22, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    Love Vida! That’s all I got.

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  3. Den says

    October 22, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    Cannot stand that retarded sounding REZA, sounds like an idiot calling everyone @itch! Also that jealous toad MJ,such a liar…

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    • Karen says

      October 23, 2017 at 12:27 am

      I agree with you, too!!

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    • Sliceo'pie says

      October 23, 2017 at 11:10 am

      I had some empathy for MJ in the beginning, growing up with Vida would warp anyone… but she’s turned into a sloppy pig. I hate to use those words about another woman but that’s what I think when I watch her. She’s just mean, vindictive and gross. I didn’t really watch this season because I didn’t want to see them go after Asa. She’s my girl.

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    • maoara says

      November 10, 2017 at 3:03 pm

      satanic outfit and shill

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  4. PixNTrix says

    October 22, 2017 at 11:30 pm

    MJ is one of the most vile, dirty, nasty, POS on TV. I thought Brandi G was bad…this b*tch takes the cake. Andy let’s her and Reza get away with everything, there is definitely a double standard. I like Asa and wish her all the best.

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    • Karen says

      October 23, 2017 at 12:26 am

      I agree

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    • ThatBlackGirl says

      October 23, 2017 at 9:06 am

      What’s with her dirty feet and okay with living in a place without running water? She’s so nasty.

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  5. Karen says

    October 23, 2017 at 12:26 am

    I can’t stand MJ. She is such a jealous selfish bitch!!!

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    • Calipatti says

      October 23, 2017 at 3:37 am

      MJ is ugly like Phaedra is ugly, inside is rotten to the cure.

      I do not understand why this group believes they are owed any explaination about a conception. I don’t understand why they care how a person gets pregnant and doesn’t want to talk about it. When she tells them she did not have to use her embryos why not accept it.
      Why do they still go on and on about it.
      Going to stop watching after the reunions again. Skipped a few years and they have not changed.

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      • ShouldaCouldaWoulda says

        October 23, 2017 at 11:52 am

        I too, am also going to not watch this show anymore after the reunion. There is not one truly likable personality on that stage with the exception of Asa, and she is not really as stellar as she wants me to believe either, but at least she has some class and self control.

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  6. Spunky2015 says

    October 23, 2017 at 12:47 am

    Funny how Mike has no problem with Adam or Tommy. Asa is right. They are all so jealous of Asa they can’t even see straight. Tommy and Vida getting along is interesting.

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    • ThatBlackGirl says

      October 23, 2017 at 9:08 am

      They don’t have Black friends or cast members for a reason. They’re all discriminatory pieces of trash, save for Asa.

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    • Suzanne D says

      October 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

      Tommy can get along with anyone. I think he made it a point to kill Vida with kindness, and he won her over. Tommy and Asa are the only 2 people on this show who aren’t vile and disgusting. Not only is it possible for Asa to get pregnant naturally at 40, it’s horrible for so-called friends to beat a person up over how she got pregnant instead of just being happy at the news that she is pregnant. Never in my life have I ever questioned a woman on how she got pregnant. Does it really matter? IVF is no cake walk and it’s not a sure thing. Implantation is a miracle in itself. With all the changes to the woman’s body and its systems during pregnancy, it’s a miracle that there aren’t more with serious complications. MJ is so hateful and jealous of Asa because Asa has everything that MJ wants. Asa has 2 loving parents, a close family, parents who support her, a long term relationship, and successful business (not Diamond Water…her caftans are in Nordstroms and selling on HSN), and now a baby. God forbid any of them show some happiness for their ‘friend’.

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  7. PiperM says

    October 23, 2017 at 1:07 am

    Did I miss the scene that was a preview for awhile? MJ and GG were having lunch outside and GG responded to MJ asking her if she was fat??? I don’t remember that scene. I still enjoy this show because the relationships feel real with each other. Most housewife shows are contrived with everyone having a predetermined side even before filming begins.

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    • Gretchen says

      October 23, 2017 at 10:17 am

      I was wondering the same thing regarding missing the scene where MJ asked GG if she was deaf and GG asked her if she was fat. I don’t recall seeing it in the shows, only the ads…..

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  8. BeetsWhy says

    October 23, 2017 at 1:27 am

    MJs outfits are always a size too small. Now more power to her and her self esteem that says she looks great. Here’s my question…where does she find these outfits that fit her body type? i’m serious, i really want to know, i mean they make stuff for me and my big belly!

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    • Suzanne D says

      October 24, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      You’re being kind. MJ squeezes herself into clothes that are at least 2 sizes too small. She probably uses a shoe horn and grease. That might help to explain the dirty knees and feet. Obviously, MJ doesn’t see herself as she really is. It’s possible. I used to be 316 lbs before gastric bypass. I wore a 24-26 in clothes. I knew I was very fat, but I never saw myself as big as I was until I caught my reflection or saw a picture. Then I dropped 150 lbs and got into a size 4 on the bottom and size 12 on top. I have broad shoulders. I never saw myself as thin as I was either. The mind can play tricks on the eyes.

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  9. Erica says

    October 23, 2017 at 1:35 am

    Asa is very centered on herself. That is ok, but she really thinks that they bring vida on year after year to come after HER???

    That is fucking delusional

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    • Leira says

      October 23, 2017 at 2:10 am

      Asa is a “baby”. She doesn’t have her life together. She puts on the image that she is perfect and all is well with the world. Vida has CRITICIZED the other cast mates. Asa always gives unsolicited advice or lectures people and she never admits when she is wrong. She is extremely delusional and has no talent. There is evidence on YouTube that Jermaine doesn’t like her and he’s been stringing her along all this time. They don’t live together because they aren’t a serious couple. I have some much juicy dirt on Asa it’s not funny! But you all seem to think that what they represent on TV is actually what they are like in real life. Not even close.

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      • Cgal38 says

        October 23, 2017 at 5:59 am

        Curious!!

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      • MDM says

        October 23, 2017 at 6:25 am

        Oooohhh, do tell!

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      • FarFromPerfekt says

        October 23, 2017 at 8:31 am

        This comment reminds me of my Sister who just loves leaving me voice mail messages stating that she has something very important to tell me but of course, she never says what it is in the message, I have to call her if I want to know. That game is old and tired and I stopped playing a long time ago. Pfft!

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        • Leira says

          October 23, 2017 at 1:19 pm

          Her first husband was Persian-American. They manufactured and sold drugs together. They divorced; Asa gets most of the money. That’s how she funds her “art projects”. She got a great opportunity to come to this country and she wastes it by pursing art projects. Jermaine will be taking Asa to court. He doesn’t want to father their child.

          That is FACT!

          You need to grow up FarFrom Perfect (which clearly you aren’t).

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          • tamaratattles says

            October 23, 2017 at 5:19 pm

            That is NOT a fact. And you have libeled Asa on this site for the last time.

            Asa and her former partner had a hippy dippy herbal supplement line. One of the this items in the line was marketed as natural ecstasy or some such one of the ingredients was Epheda. Then ephedra was removed from all over the counter supplements by the FDA. End of story. ALso the end of Leira’s nonsensical libel.

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            • Purple Lover says

              October 23, 2017 at 5:49 pm

              You are the bomb, Tamara!

          • Erica says

            October 23, 2017 at 6:39 pm

            Hope you like the taste of Windex!

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          • FarFromPerfekt says

            October 24, 2017 at 7:36 am

            Yes, boredom will do ^ to a person. Sad.

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          • hannikee says

            November 10, 2017 at 2:46 pm

            Sounds like you are MJ or some idiot friend of hers! No court date has been set so shutu$!

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        • justanothermary says

          October 23, 2017 at 3:38 pm

          I thought the same thing when I read that post.

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          • FarFromPerfekt says

            October 24, 2017 at 3:08 pm

            And …?

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      • ThatBlackGirl says

        October 23, 2017 at 9:09 am

        We don’t believe you.

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      • justanothermary says

        October 23, 2017 at 10:47 am

        I’m sure if any of that were true Jermaine would not have had a child with Asa.

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        • Leira says

          October 23, 2017 at 1:36 pm

          Men always get women pregnant when they don’t really want to. A lot of men flee from the responsibility of having children. Jermaine is taking Asa to court; he doesn’t want to be a father to the baby. He was just “playing her the whole time”.

          And yes, I get that you are judging these people based on what you see but at the very least, be realistic and take into consideration that TV producers have to EDIT most of what they film – all I am saying is: even if you meet someone in person, there will be things they never tell you – so you have to remember that what you see isn’t always what you get.

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          • T T Fan says

            October 23, 2017 at 2:51 pm

            Huh? Taking her to court because “he doesn’t to be a father to the baby.” Guess what – the baby has been born. He’s the father. Unless your suggesting someone else is the father, you’re not making any sense.

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          • justanothermary says

            October 23, 2017 at 3:45 pm

            I’m quite certain that if Jermaine did not want to be the father of the child, Asa would not be shopping with his Aunt. Asa has been talking about being with Jermaine for years, I think you’re way off base on this one.

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          • tamaratattles says

            October 23, 2017 at 5:22 pm

            For someone who didn’t want to have a baby he sure went to a lot of trouble to fertilze Asa’s eggs and store them. I’ve never seen a man who didn’t want to have children participate in IVF with a woman he has been with for almost TEN YEARS.

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      • PixNTrix says

        October 23, 2017 at 11:02 am

        Who is Via to criticize anyone? It’s not like she’s up for mother of the year.

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      • Sliceo'pie says

        October 23, 2017 at 11:13 am

        Oh go away. Please. What are we 12? “I have some much dirty gossip on Asa”. Sure. I wait with baited breath…

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      • Katherine 2.0 says

        October 23, 2017 at 11:37 am

        Maybe because that’s all we have to base our opinions on what we see in front of us! Beyond that, who gives a fuck? It’s not like any of these folks are that fascinating that I give their behind the scenes lives one minute of my time.
        Time for Shahs to retire. They’ve played all their cards. Game over.

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        • Leira says

          October 23, 2017 at 1:37 pm

          If you don’t care, then why do you respond at all?

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          • sundayhare3 says

            October 23, 2017 at 3:17 pm

            I am just curious as to where you are getting this information? How do you know he is taking her to court? How do you know he is dating 2 other women? How do you know she is a “light skinned fling”? I am not doubting you necessarily, but would like some proof to back this up.

            These are kind of derogatory and inflammatory statements you are making.

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      • ShouldaCouldaWoulda says

        October 23, 2017 at 11:57 am

        What is this “evidence” on Youtube regarding Jermaine not even liking his baby Mama?

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        • Leira says

          October 23, 2017 at 1:26 pm

          Jermaine is dating two other women while dating Asa (which he only dates on the rare occasion). This is why Jermaine is SILENT – it’s not because he is private – it’s because he doesn’t want to pursue anything “real” with Asa. Asa needs to grow up and let of Jermaine because she was just a light-skinned “fling” to him. He also plans on marrying one of his other exes (going back to his high school days). Why people adore Asa so much I don’t know?

          She made racist comments about Nigerian headwraps. She stated her family thinks of Jermaine as a “disgusting creature” because he is black. She called MJ a pill popper (and even if it’s true, she brought it up at the wrong time and place and she did it to “fit in the group” and be seen as more popular). Asa can never forgive, give an apology or accept an apology. She lectures people. She’s into her feelings alone and those of others.

          She has done some awful things but because she doesn’t have have a temper like GG and doesn’t show her flaws and jealousy like MJ, you all (especially black people) seem to think because her booty is big, she has a ton of black friends that that makes her black. Persians are, for the most part, racist against blacks as is most of the Middle East (sorry to generalize). I had a Persian boyfriend years ago and he told me that Persians despise DARK-SKINNED blacks with a passion. You are still considered slaves in most parts of the world. So Asa’s fling with Jermaine is the product of interracial swirling and fetishizing. Asa is accepted by blacks and so only hangs around them because her own Persian community rejects her (she is weird after all).

          Sorry to disappoint you all but Asa isn’t that great.

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          • Leira says

            October 23, 2017 at 1:31 pm

            I meant to write: she’s into her feelings alone and not those of others. Even when someone humbles themselves for her, she CONTINUES TO SAY the person is wrong and “here’s the thing, you did this this this”. I would NEVER be jealous of someone like Asa because her man wants nothing to do with her; she will be a single mom and Jermaine will take her to court. It’s not that he hates Asa – it’s that he ISN’T INTO HER AT ALL. Asa is delusional: she chases a man that wants nothing to do with her. Vida has a right to criticize her (but Asa wants everyone to bow down to her – a sign of immaturity and selfishness and NOT spirituality). She is a pseudo-spiritualist meaning “saying clichés, sayings, or proverbs that sound spiritual or acting in a way that appears spiritual” but she is self-centered and immature like the rest of the crew.

            Again, Asa is nothing special. At least Mike, GG, MJ and Reza SHOW their immaturity, vulnerabilities, insecurities, etc. It humanizes them.

            Asa just needs to always act like she is perfect – and by the way, that in itself is NOT spiritual.

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            • Amy says

              October 23, 2017 at 2:08 pm

              I’m honestly curious as to why he would take her to court if he doesn’t want anything to do with her or the child? What’s to go to court for? To sue her for something? I don’t get it.

              I also don’t get why he would go to the fertility Dr and freeze embryos with her if he never was that into her? I can see an oopsie pregnancy, but not making and freezing embryos.

              Also, where do you get your inside info about asa being hated by all Persians? And why do you assume the people defending her on this or other websites are all black and that we like her bc she has a big butt or that having a big butt is something black ppl weigh when they’re deciding to like someone?

              There are just so many strange and kind of deranged parts to your comment. All middle easteners are racist against black ppl? Jermaine only likes her bc she’s light skinned? He’s marrying someone he dated in highschool? You seem to care A LOT about bringing asa down. Why?

            • Amy says

              October 23, 2017 at 2:15 pm

              I like how Asa is considered especially immature to you bc she doesn’t show herself being immature. “She’s so immature that she doesn’t even appear immature ! While the others are more mature bc they act immature!” That’s s special kind of logic.

            • justanothermary says

              October 23, 2017 at 3:50 pm

              This person is obviously a troll. No one accidently does IVF and the comments like this are simply meant to antagonize. It makes no sense and simply cannot be true. Don’t feed the troll.

          • hannikee says

            November 10, 2017 at 2:55 pm

            Zoroastrians were the first people in Iran, not Muslim – therefore the hating of blacks etc. that you think you know about or racism is nonsense. It is one of the most ancient faiths in the world – philosophy. I think you are extremely hateful and delusional! Why are you spreading hate and gossip?

            It is NOT true that Persians hate black people or anyone for that matter. They are originally of Zoroastrian faith or philosophy and it is established on love, light, doing good, thinking good things, and saying good things at its very basic ideology. It is the first monotheistic (believe in one God) faith in the world and and you cannot be converted. This nonsense about racism which is not a national mindset may have entered into Persian (called Persian not Islamic Republic of Iran) when Arabs invaded Iran and did genocide. The people were used to royalty and philosophy of goodness and righteousness, so NO I don’t agree with that especially since historically we were not war mongering, and we were inclusive of other faiths and peoples. I’m Persian and I’m guessing you are not, so again shutu$!

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      • Suzanne D says

        October 24, 2017 at 3:52 pm

        I learned 2 very important life lessons in kindergarten that have stayed with me my whole life. First is tell, tell, you smell. Nobody likes a tattletale. If it’s not your business, you need to STFU. The other is that boys are stupid. Self explanatory.

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  10. Pam says

    October 23, 2017 at 3:41 am

    I love Reza…I know i’m in the minority. lol

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    • Amy says

      October 23, 2017 at 2:10 pm

      I think he looks better without the mustache. In think sherv looks worse with all his facial hair.

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      • justanothermary says

        October 23, 2017 at 3:51 pm

        Sherv and the man bun have got to go.

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    • maoara says

      November 10, 2017 at 2:58 pm

      Did you notice Reza is wearing upside down stars and all red, black and a bit of white? Colors of satanism. He has blatantly sold his soul for entertainment or one of the shlls bc he keeps emphasizing his jewishness.

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      • thill says

        November 10, 2017 at 3:52 pm

        WOW! The lunatics have excaped the assylum!

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  11. SD says

    October 23, 2017 at 5:20 am

    I was astonished that Vida likes Tommy! I didn’t think she would like anyone.

    Tamara, I watched the show first, then read your recap: it’s very good!

    GG made me so mad in her attitude about Israel. She said someone said “Jihad” about her while she was waiting near the Western Wall. Well, she WAS wearing camo. So someone said something–big deal. Meanwhile Iran kills and persecutes Jews and Christians. Muslims can walk around freely in Israel–not so for Jews and Christians in Iran. No comparison. Israel is more tolerant and free.

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    • Jack says

      October 23, 2017 at 11:46 am

      Actually Jews and Christians aren’t persecuted in Iran. Neither group has any problem ‘walking around freely’: that’s why Iran still has sizeable Jewish population, unlike almost all other countries in the Middle East (except Israel obvi, haha). Gays on the other hand….that’s not such a picnic.

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  12. thill says

    October 23, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Asa wanted everyone’s attention and complained non-stop about how hard pregnancy was, even when she was only about 6 months pregnant. Now she is complaining about how hard motherhood and breastfeeding are. She wants everyone to bow down to her, as if she is the only woman to have had a child.

    And it is clear that it’s killing her that she can’t get more attention on her IG by posting pictures of the baby because Jermaine says no. She is desperately keeping that connection alive.

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  13. ThatBlackGirl says

    October 23, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Thanks for the recap, girl. I don’t have to watch because this recap was detailed.

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  14. justanothermary says

    October 23, 2017 at 10:46 am

    Asa is completely over it. She had a Jackson baby and no longer needs the income so I’m sure this is the last we will see of her.

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    • Ktina says

      October 24, 2017 at 12:32 pm

      You think Jermaine, Jr. has a lot of money? LOL! They all just used Michael and his money, bunch of low lifes. There are hundreds of Jacksons running around

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  15. KathyD says

    October 23, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    TT, awesome recap! Thank you! Spouse and I watched the reunion on dvr late. Your recap is dead-on.

    I do not understand MJ’s claimed desire to have a child, when she cannot walk her own dogs. I am 56 and she is (if I recall) 45. She is 11 years younger than my tired-old ass. If she got pregnant today, when she is 56 or so, she will have an 11 year old. Vida is right! MJ likes a cute baby. Reality is tougher.

    Vida is exactly like every non-US mom I know. Bless her. She is straight up wth the truth. No one my age or thereabouts was “planned”. My grandmother told my mom that had she been able, she would not have had even half the 16 live births (12 to adulthood). Planned babies is a luxury.

    WHY is there not a Bravo show of Vida and Tommy walking dogs and cooking? I would so watch that.

    I feel for Asa. Breastfeeding is hard. Parenthood is hard. Babies are hard. She has a lot on her plate, and doing a reunion (yes I know she signed a contract) is probably the last thing she wanted. Spouse said she probably has nannies. But still, this is a human life she is ultimately responsible for.

    Last piece of wisdom from my Polish grandma. When more boy babies than girls are born in a time period, that means war is on the horizon in 20 years. More girls, prosperity. She had a run of boy babies before she got healthy girls, so I can believe Asa had all boy embryos.

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  16. Diane says

    October 23, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    I don’t watch on the regular, but my question is why is everyone all up in Asa’s business on how, when & where she got pregnant. What business is it of anybody’s. What just because MJ is wanting to do IVF that means that nobody else in the whole damn free world can do it too. I guess i’m just confused or don’t give a crap, one of the two.

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  17. Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

    October 23, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    TT, really liked this recap, A LOT. When you mentioned how Andy would never ask Bethenny questions about Bryn that he didn’t hesitate asking Asa,I found it sad. But true. I had no idea about so much information that was in the recap, it was really great.
    So much, I don’t know if it’s pain, sadness, how to describe it was really coming through. Asa did need to stop, before just having to say whatever her point, and did make her seem acting “better than”. I can see how it could be offensive. I am very anxious for her answer to why she is on the show, even though I know she will say “why are you?”
    I always assumed that they were truly real friends.
    But can see how the show probably changed that an awful lot.
    Thanks again, great recap.

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    • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

      October 23, 2017 at 5:35 pm

      Wow, a lot of information that I will ignore since I appreciated the information that I was unaware of, which didn’t entail unnecessary garbage.
      I definitely stand by enjoying the things I was blissfully unaware of, and can live just fine with that. ??
      Do people just have to say things that really aren’t necessary?

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      • jugsey says

        October 24, 2017 at 10:24 am

        looking for attention. so they have to be in the “know”. it suppose to make them special

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    • KaraW says

      October 23, 2017 at 6:07 pm

      My take on this is that Andy likes to knock people off the pedestal when they place themselves upon it and Asa is the queen of that. She comes across as smug. He goes after Luann in a similar way. But Bethenny goes on and on about her faults and Andy just loves that. I think he prefers people he finds funny and Asa doesn’t do funny.

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      • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

        October 23, 2017 at 6:22 pm

        KaraW, my intention was to say that it is unfair for Asa to get asked questions, Bethenny probably would not have been asked. My only problem with Asa, is being unable to end the question. i.e. breastfeeding baby, but HARD work.
        I don’t like what I’m reading in comments and am quite shocked. I’m not sure why and where the attitude to attack a happy new mom is coming from?I’m truly confused. (Unless it basically from a specific commmenter, who knows “ALL”. Lol. (But seems to have been removed)

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      • sundayhare3 says

        October 23, 2017 at 7:40 pm

        Asa is more smug than Reza or Mike for that matter? I don’t think so. He never goes after them though.

        Andy doesn’t get to decided whether or not someone should be believed/not believed , loved/not loved. He is the most arrogant of all people.

        He lets certain people get away with things and other people he doesn’t. I agree with Cheryl B. because it is true. These people are mean spirited. I have had the same closest friends for over 40 years. I love them to death. But there are some things that are just between my husband and myself. Asa is happy, however her baby got her is between her and her partner.

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    • Erica says

      October 23, 2017 at 7:01 pm

      Well, considering Bethenny practically peed on the pregnancy stick on camera, Andy didn’t need to ask those questions of Bethenny.

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      • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

        October 23, 2017 at 7:15 pm

        True, I just liked how TT made the point.

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        • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

          October 23, 2017 at 7:16 pm

          Just found the point nice.

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  18. conveidt says

    October 23, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Regarding how Asa’s baby was conceived: Obviously I don’t know the truth (and I don’t really care) but it strikes me that one reason she might have for claiming her child was conceived naturally is if Jermaine was not yet ready to have a child and was opposed to her having a frozen embryo implanted now. By her claiming it was a natural/accidental pregnancy she could avoid having him blame her for getting pregnant against his wishes. Just my speculation but it does seem like a reason for her to be so adamant in claiming her pregnancy was natural contrary to the belief of her “Shahs” friends and in spite of the odds against that happening due to her age.

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  19. bluesuedeshoe says

    October 23, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    Honestly, I have been captivated by this series from the outset. Over the years since, my treasure has been to watch these kids grow and grow and grow. I wish every cast member (parents and friends) the very best for sharing their lives and their culture, it’s been amazing. But Tamara, the best part has been your reporting. “You see, you see and you see.”

    Thank you so much!

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  20. Jrleaguer says

    October 23, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    GG can’t figure out why people were mean to her? Well Chica…when you wear a keffiyeh AND camo to the holy Kotel…people ARE going to be reactive. It would be like me wearing a bathing suit to tour the Vatican….disrespectful!!!! GG knew exactly what she was doing.

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  21. Shae says

    October 24, 2017 at 7:38 am

    I believe it was stipulated by the court that Bryn could not appear on any of the tv shows, Jason didn’t want it, Bethenny agreed to it, so that’s probably why Andy doesn’t badger Bethenny about it, but asked Asa.

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    • LaNY says

      October 24, 2017 at 8:02 am

      I remember reading something about Jason not wanting Bryn on RHONY and thinking that was interesting considering he was totally fine with her on TV as an infant during Bethany Ever After while he was in front of the camera also.

      As for Asa, I think this may or even needs to be her last season because it’s going to be more difficult for her to be “private” while on a reality show where cast mates put everything out there, even crap I never want to see like having their butts bleached!

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