The first few episodes of this season seemed really chopped up. I think the reason for that is that there was so much drama at the end of filming, they decided to cut out a lot of the initial scenes. Italy will probably be three episodes and the Kim D Posche Fashion Show will be at least two. While it is weird having Margaret already enmeshed with Teresa and Melissa in what appears to be a short period of time, if that is the reason for it, I am down with all that. I presume the reason they didn’t do that on RHOOC is because they don’t have much at the end of filming of interest either.
Margaret has a launch part for her cosmetic bags. She is going to have the party at her house. Her house is currently being renovated by her husband the contractor. Since Margaret left her first husband for this one when he was the contractor on their home, he will not allow any other contractors in the house. That’s hysterical. It also means that renovations will take forever.
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Joe, Melissa and Teresa are trying to move their dad’s furniture into Teresa’s house. It’s ridiculous. Joe is surprised that Dolores is siding with Siggy over the rest of the group. Everyone films a husband scene to discuss the fallout of the Boca trip.
Melissa is suddenly super close with Margaret “because they are in the same industry.” Margaret doesn’t understand why Siggy blocked her on social media but not anyone else. Margaret invited Siggy to her launch party but she refused to attend. So does Dolores.
I am not sure if I would let my ex of 18 years move back in with me or not. Would you? Dolores did and they are already fighting like an old married couple about how to parent Frankie. Frankie and his parents go out to dinner. It’s clear that Frankie has been spoiled rotten by his mother and Frank wants to whip him into shape. Frankie seems more concerned with his girlfriend rather than college.
Siggy and Teresa meet to talk about the Boca trip over some big glasses of wine. Siggy wants to rehash #cakegate. Also, Teresa stormed out of Siggy’s house the last time they saw each other. Siggy makes it clear she is really the most angry at Siggy. She says she has no soul and she can’t stand the bitch. In Teresa’s talking head she says that Siggy has become unhinged. Siggy says she hates the bitch and wants to yank those pony tails right out of her head. Teresa says she wishes Siggy would come to the party but Siggy is adamant she will not. We saw no apologies on either side about what caused the issues between these two. Based on what I know about filming, Siggy and Delores are out of the loop for the entire season.
Joe takes Melissa to lunch at a pizzeria. There are no customers. Joe tells Melissa that he has bought into the restaurant and will be taking it over and changing the name. Actually, I think Teresa bought the place with her hidden stolen money. In my opinion. Allegedly. At least this way, Melissa has a televised alibi that keeps her hands clean. Melissa is only mildly miffed by the “blindside.” Joe says the restaurant gives his father something to do.
Teresa and her new man the sleazy lawyer go to a publisher to have a fake meeting where she pretends she came up with the title and the cover before writing the book. This whole meeting is obscene.
Siggy and Dolores have a protest pajama party instead of attending Margaret’s product launch. They are both in pigtails. I might be the only one but I enjoyed the comic relief. I know, I know, the comments will be full of vitriol toward Siggy.
Margaret has discovered that her oven doesn’t work. Clearly she has never used it before. How to grown women not know how to cook? She hired caterers who discovered the problem. She had to send the caterers to a neighbor’s house to heat things up.
At the party Teresa is quick to tell Margaret that Siggy says she hates her and called her a fucking bitch. Wow, Teresa, you were just talking about Dolores not being loyal and you have no idea what loyalty is either. Even to your husband the felon. Margaret texts Siggy and tells her she misses her at the party and wishes she was there. she wants to meet up with her the next day. Siggy agrees. Dolores tells Siggy that Margaret is fake as fuck and just wants to “take Siggy’s place.” That may be true but she ended up taking Danielle’s place.
The next day Siggy and Margaret meet up at a diner to chat. Margaret says that she doesn’t understand what she did to make her so angry. Siggy and Margaret get into it right off the bat. Of course they are making a scene in the diner which is full of extras who have signed releases.
Margaret thinks Siggy is a hypocrite because she is a “relationship expert” who sucks at relationships. She also is not very empowering of women according to Margaret. Siggy’s argument, which I also understand is that she brought Margaret into the group. I know that is not a literal thing that happened but when production assigns a new girl to a current cast member, that new girl is being hired to support that person’s side in all the catfights. On RHOOC this season, Lydia and Peggy were brought in to defend Vicki to Tamra and Shannon. They have performed their roles tenaciously. They did their job. Margaret on the other hand is friend jumping and just like Dolores said, coming for Siggy’s spot holding the nonexistent object. Frankly, I’ve always thought they should hold a tomato. Jersey is famous for their varietal of tomatoes. There is a weird argument about who is more like Joan Rivers and who knew Joan Rivers better. Both of them accuse the other of being crazy. Siggy randomly drops that she gets hormone pellets shoved up her ass. Margaret says that everyone knows that Dolores is so far up her ass she will never contradict her and everyone knows. Siggy cries. They talk about how they do not really know each other. Margaret apologizes for making her cry. Margaret wants peace moving forward in filming. Margaret says she hopes that there will cry less in future scenes.
Next week: Delores goes off on Danielle (who was cut out of most of tonight’s scenes) Melissa and Teresa argue when she finds out that Teresa is also a partner in the Pizzeria.
Going back to briefly to the cake – is it true that Margaret blogged about two of the tiers being made of plastic and it cost pennies, not the $1000 Siggy claimed? I can’t bring myself to read anything these illiterate women hire someone to write for them, but be interested to know if that’s true and the whole cake fight was manufactured.
I think Margaret has earned her spot fast on this show. Siggy really does come off as unhinged, and I actually feel sad for her – I’m not sure being on this show helps her brand as a relationship expert. Her doctor needs to check the dosage of whatever induced her behavior at the sitdown with Teresa.
Delores is really the only likeable woman on this show. I’m down with the unconventional relationship with her ex, it benefits the kids when exes can spend time together, and I think she’s actually very loyal and quietly confident to steer her own course (even if it means going up against Teresa).
The cake did look fake to me. The bottom tier didn’t move at all when it was flung as is if was glued to the metal stand. I tend to believe that only the top layer was real. There was no need for a three tier huge cake at a party where only six people attended. Siggy was probably just pissed she didn’t get a piece of cake before the scripted cake fight.
Coming from a person who has made a few “theme decorated” cakes, the top layer was probably the only real ones. The other two layers were more than likely fondant covered Styrofoam. If you only need 6-8 servings you don’t want to pay for more. I don’t know why it didn’t come off the tray when it was thrown. I always glued mine on the stand with buttercream.
Yes I agree it’s a dummy cake from the 2nd tier & glue gun was used instead of buttercream.
Also Tre has awesome upper body strength to to hoist it was such velocity and the rate that was tossed because the Stand alone would have had weight to it lol
Still even if a manufactured story if it is I’m still a team Siggy on this one it’s a bad look for the other girls in my opinion
The cake tossing looked manufactured from the start. Teresa wasn’t that mad, she was grinning. Not sure if it had anything to do with how the cake was made and I’m uncertain they all knew it would be tossed, 50/50 they all knew. The scene looked fake, but I’d be ticked I didn’t get a slice.
That’s exactly the conclusion I’ve reached. The whole CakeGate incident was contrived by Bravo, and that’s why Teresa felt free to throw it around the restaurant. At first, I felt like Teresa was in the wrong doing that when it wasn’t her home or her cake, I don’t know if Siggy was in on the whole setup, but if she was then she’s really good at acting like a wronged woman. Mararet Pigtails is a malicious RHONJ wannabe, who stepped way out of line when she organized a “memorial” for Teresa’s mom, a person she had never met. Especially when she was a guest at Siggy’s beach club and did everything behind Siggy’s back. Again though, it was probably all arranged by Bravo. I’m getting so sick of all the production meddling and scripted scenes – the show was so much better when they just (mostly) left the women alone to create their own drama. Margaret needs to go, go, go – she’s only angling to get on the show, and I really don’t think I can stomach too much more of her.
I feel like maybe there’s more “production meddling” going on with RHONJ than we’ve seen before because these women have become so very boring. Teresa is being so careful about what she says so that she doesn’t end up in jail again, Melissa is braindead, and the others are mostly there to serve the other two’s storylines, so without all the phoney staged stuff I daresay there wouldn’t have been much usable footage at all from the Boca trip!
I agree 100% with the “production meddling”
The scene with Teresa’s “book meeting” was ridiculous! I mean are they kidding me?! Am I really supposed to believe that Teresa can construct 2 sentences let alone an entire book?!
I also refuse to believe Joe would purchase a restaurant without Melissa’s knowledge so I agree the staging this season is ridiculous but call me crazy, I am enjoying it better than RHOC. I decided to give them a try again this season and so far I’m regretting it. RHONJ is ok so far.
A three cake with a silver platter under would be heavy. Tre picked it up and the bottom “LAYER OF THE CAKE” DIDN”T EVEN CRACK after thrown. Siggy is a self absorbed nutcase… IMHO.
Dolores brings nothing to the show. Thought Melissa on her confession tape or what ever shows how smart she is bringing up Micheal Jackson; Madonna and the guy who invented the light bulb. Being some of the smartest or most talented people on the planet.
Only thing about Siggy I agreed with … was she probably has a higher IQ than 80% of the women on this show.
I really think Dolores will come into her own when we see her call Danielle a “mothertruckin’ liar” and “a filthy scumbag” next week. She’ll have lots of new fans after that!
I’m sorry, if the top IQ here is above 50 I would be surprised. Siggy is no brain power, of that we can be sure. Dolores used a basic word last night and was forced to explain it to Siggy. Siggy made an idiot of herself last week with that discussion about how smart she is and how talented- no one who truly was that smart , would ever make a point of rubbing it in to those who are not as bright. This is just one example reflecting that she completely lacks any basic intelligence, common sense or wisdom to have a conversation with people, let alone run a relationship business and give good advice. .
While I understand that the original focus of the regional shows was intended to reflect their environs, this NJ thing has gone too far- there are many brilliant extremely hard working impressive people who also live in NJ. It was one thing to go the Mafia route, building on the Italian theme from the old world, with mob connections , deaths, large families, etc. from the twins to these other people,
none of them reflect anything but how underwhelmingly unimpressive they all are, . and not reflective of the majority of the NYC bedroom communities.
I think Margaret is smart enough. The pigtails and ditzy blonde thing seems like it’s just who she is on the surface, and underneath that she’s pretty sharp, totally focused on her business, and quick-witted. That said, a pig in a wig would look like Grace Hopper next to the Giudice/Gorga clan!
I understand what you’re saying about these women not being representative of New Jersey – but would it really be possible for 5 or 6 women to adequately represent a state, or even one of its demographics? I get that the franchise distinguishes its shows by geography, and sometimes the locations play into what we see on-screen (e.g. in Dallas, we see them at lots of charity functions because that drives their social scene, whereas in NYC the action is around the city’s nightlife at Beautique and the Regency etc.), but ultimately the show is just about how a particular group of individual women interact with each other and the ups and downs of female “friendship”. I think all the cast trips have shown that these women behave just as badly wherever they are, and the city they live in is pretty much irrelevant, so I don’t see RHONJ as any kind of meaningful reflection on New Jersey.
I thought the bottom tier was just a generic piece of plastic that they could use for just about any cake and make it look larger. I never did think it was really cake. Cake would have been heavy and would have moved or cracked or something. No way that was real.
Okay can someone tell me why In the world Melissa didn’t mention she used to live in Boca Raton? She wrote about Boca in her book
Anyone?
A lot of stuff seems to be edited out as TT mentions. This season does seem choppy.
Oh yes—the Boca Bitches LOL. I remember that from her book.
I am scared but TT PLEASE DO NOT SCREAM AT ME OR WLS ME. You say you do not listen to the podcast but there is one that Siggy did that was almost a behind the mask of filming and it is worth a listen. Dolores was on as well and gave even more away. I am so Siggy in this. You are correct, the new old girls are doing what they were hired to do by bringing the drama. The makeup this season is ridiculously heavy, it ages them all a good 10 years. I have the HRT pellets and they are amazing. They go right under the skin and are bioidentical. Loving this season so far! My GF and I visited the “restaurant” this summer, OMG it was a disaster and a half.
So glad you mentioned the makeup. It’s looking like opera makeup. Sometimes I see the women squinting as though they can’t even fully open their eyes. They are outlining all the women’s eyes with heavy black eyeliner
The make-up is terrible this season, and the production values in general – it’s like they’ve made the whole show on the cheap. The sound during the restaurant scene with Dolores and the two Franks was completely inaudible. The whole thing really looks and feels amateur-ish compared to the production on RHONY, or shows on other networks like the Kardashians.
There was one talking head where Siggy’s lips were outlined in black – it creeped me out.
What happened at the restaurant. Was the food good anyway?
it’s probably easiest to just watch that scene (episode) since the whole season revolves around what when down there. ; )
One thing bothered me from the start of this episode was Margaret saying she had no idea that Siggy and Dolores weren’t going to be at the beach. If she didn’t why were there just the right number of white roses and cards delivered? Should have had two extra. Just saying…….
I live for Margaret she gives me so much life and is hilarious, this season is really good and you can tell Danielle was feeling some type of way about Margaret being full-time.
Yeah, okay Margaret.
Just a question…TT you said this has been choppy editing, I get what you’re saying bc this episode was essentially all in 2/3 days which I highly doubt, but I have read somewhere, maybe here, that this season is gonna be short, like 12 episodes plus the reunion. I wouldn’t be shocked by that bc Bravo wants ratings and making the drama happen quicker than normal would hopefully provide better ratings that’s why people watch. After this preview for next week, the POSCHE fashion show and that dinner where Danielle smashes a glass seem about it. But based on housewives previews they are misleading. At the same time they wrapped filming by May, there can’t be too much. The Italy trip can’t be that far away. I remember reading the reports of them vacationing they were in Boca and then a couple weeks later in Italy.
Production may have been delayed for 3 months due to Teresa’s mother.
YES!!!! Thank you TT! I have ALWAYS wondered why they never have them hold Jersey tomatoes for the promos.
Margaret cracks me up calling out Siggy for being over-the-top, hope they invent a surname for Soggy like “Fuckher”. Soggy Fuckher.
OMG that’s it ! I’m using it LOL.
I love Margaret shes a breath of fresh air everything about her screams im from Jersey
I’m a Jersey girl and they need tomatoes!! Also, my ex husband and I have had to live together for a variety of reasons over the course of our sons life. Ex left when our kid was 7 divorce wasn’t final until kid was 20. We don’t argue anymore, didn’t really even before we split, we just we’re not suited as a couple. Together we are great parents.
My ex left me after 30 years of marriage. He’s be back and forth for the past few years. Now he’s been in an accident and is confined to a wheelchair and my place just happens to be all one story. Yup, he’s here, probably to stay now.
I can’t imagine how you did that but sometimes (most of the time) we gotta do what we gotta do! My husband left almost exactly a year ago and communication has been very difficult and stressful. I hoped we could be amicable not just for my son’s sake but also for my own sanity (happiness). It feels so strange and probably sounds dramatic but he looks the same but I don’t really know him anymore. He’s changed so radically in such a short period plus I probably wore blinders. I envy people who say they’re friends. That’s awesome. I’m realizing the only thing I have control is how I react to him and try to make good choices for my son.
I simply do not get the outrage by Siggy and Delores about having been left out of the “memorial” when they made the decision to bail on the beach day and failed to respond to texts that morning. They were obviously trying to make a statement by not showing up. You can’t then be upset by what you missed out on.
OMG, is this tacky show still on? I figured since two of the main characters went to prison, they might have enough good taste to stop production. But no, not Bravo and Andy. The tackier the better.
I have to ask. I apologize if this has already been answered, but why wasn’t Danielle made a housewife?
Hmm, Melissa mentioning “the will” for Joe’s mom. Always wondered if some cash was used “hidden” in life insurance. Just a thought. Wouldn’t the agent just handle the will? Not Joe, with Melissa mentioning it? Just a shady thought, since the pizza place, also I thought was “something”.
Wow didn’t catch Melissa mentioning the “will” WIll have to watch again.
Yeah, when he was doing the “paperwork”. I was waiting, and yep, it was mentioned.
I’m so amazed at little things I’m noticing.
A restaurant for the dad (who was dying, suddenly all better and can daily excitedly go to work?)
I sure hope those kids didn’t use their parents to do anything dirty. Awful thought, but forgive me for the ability to even consider.
I will briefly mention that several years ago, Joe and Melissa made financial choices, spending money for a big house and her career( if I remember correctly), which they somehow secured with his parents’ home, without their knowledge. Joe and Melissa did not repay the debt, which resulted in his parents losing the home they intended to retire in.
A real highlight of Joe and Melissa’s honest life.
If they can do this, what won’t they do?
Yes I do like Joe and Melissa… but when he was taking care of the kids in previous episodes and trying to read a blue print? If he is a true Real estate mogul or entrepeneur I don’t see it. What happened to house that he had up for sale?
Does anyone remember Joe and Melissa house, I think, that had a thin veneer of marble or granite over plywood. It was chipped and showed a cheap job?
Many of the, “finishes” in the house are really low quality especially considering its price point. it’s a $3 M dollar home. He was supposed to be this big time developer.
I believe Joe Gorga owns a lawn service/masonry company that works out of Franklin Lakes. I live in NJ. I won’t write the name. I don’t doubt that it’s fairly successful but they’re not who they saw they are. I know I’ve shocked y’all.
I think everything between the Melissa and Joe is totally contrived. Their scenes never ring true. The furniture moving, ( look it’s Lucy & Ethel!) and the restaurant purchase without Melissa’s knowledge? Please.
I live in NJ not far from the, “restaurant” in a strip mall. It’s more a pizza joint. It has horrible reviews. Not a few bad reviews – A Lot. The food is horrible, they often get orders wrong for dinners and take-out (A Lot of reviews about that) they have hardly any staff-often one person working there besides the cook. It’s a mess.
I need to get a hobby (a la Bethenny).
Loving me some Margaret this year. She is upfront, (like her friend Joan Rivers – Ha), doesn’t take the vile things said to her personally, as in, she moves on from it, not carrying it like a torch of righteousness, and comes up with quick witted comebacks. Good HW personality. Sorry, Danielle, they called a good game play on this one with Margaret being full time and you being a “friend of”.
After 45mins. in, I think I need to watch episode two again, I am lost in the Boca “burn the house down” attitude.
I’m obviously missing something to cause all this commotion, and severe hatred and loyalty, that I just either checked out when watching, or just can’t remember it being so serious.
Love Margaret, can’t tolerate Siggy, therefore, I am as confused as Margaret.
Since Siggy is a lot cuckoo, I won’t feel too bad, lol.
I am confused now. So, Siggy is hating on Margaret because, as she said over and over, Margaret is HER friend from Boca and didn’t take her side in Cakegate. Now we find out that she isn’t really. Rather, she’s some chick she’s heard about in her social circles who sounded like fun, so Siggy was chosen to bring her into the group. Which is it, Siggy?
I wish Siggy would admit that the reason she’s peeved at Margaret isn’t about being “her” friend first, but about Margaret elbowing her way into the inner circle so quickly.
If production really wants us to believe that Dolores is really Team Sig, even when she looks foolish for doing so, then give us some reason for their connection other than Siggy helped her find her way last year. I bet it has more to do with Dolores feeling loyal to Jacqueline and/or she buys into Siggy’s fantasy about getting a spinoff for the two of them. Shades of Zarin/Frankel show that never was.
Siggy and Delores spin off? Well, that sounds dreadful. Anything with Siggy being able to talk anymore is a NO for me. I don’t understand anything about who, or what, or why Siggy is even on this show.
Siggy is totally nuts so far this season, but I’m willing to forgive her – she made her Housewives debut last year in full facial bandages after a massive facelift! For that fact alone, I just can’t bring myself to dislike her.
To me, she just doesn’t seem like “housewife” material. She wants so much attention, perhaps her own show, “ALL ABOUT SIGGY”? could work, lol.
She seemed calmer on WWHL. Maybe her hormone pellets have kicked in. Peri-menopause/menopause, plus copious amounts of alcohol mixed with a high-strung personality could be why she was so over-the-top nutso.
Like Johnny, I want to give her a chance. And viewers are so easily swayed back to a HW when she shows remorse and self awareness. We aren’t a very demanding bunch when you think about it.
Guess with the books and seminars and professional life that has her husband complaining, I expected a more together person.
Trying to justify to myself I guess. It just doesn’t seem to match.
And anything to do with menopause, gotta consider absolutely!! Lol
Every one of these women is 40-ish going on 12! Frankie is 18, but he looks 30! (and totally hot!) Remember when Juicy Joe bought a pizza joint? UH OH! ?
boring…..now the stupid siggy cake fight will be the storyline for the season. siggy screamed in the restaurant and deliberately poured out red wine onto the table while people were sitting there wearing white yet she’s soo classy. can’t believe the danielle comeback – i guess queen teresa has come to the end of her list of family and friends she is willing to film with. all this show demonstrates is crime does pay!!!
Melissa grabbed the top layer of cake and tried to smash it in Teresa’s face …. then Teresa grabbed the entire cake and threw it. Why did everyone blame Teresa and not both her and Melissa?!!!