I am not excited in the least to write this recap tonight. It’s been a rough day and THE CRAZY is out of control. I’m having a rough time concentrating and I have a headache from trying. I say all that to say this recap will probably suck. But here goes nothing!
We are starting with the Balls Voyage Party which is unexpected because I figured that would be last. Vicki is still sick and will miss the party on the yacht. Right away Jim and Doug bond over the topic of vasectomies. Jim explains that he banked some sperm that was use to make the last kid. Jim posted on social media today that one of his daughters was at the concert where the massacre happened last night. Thankfully she is fine. Doug says he just banked some today.
Lydia has hurt feelings because she was left out of the dinner. It doesn’t seem like anything happened at the dinner anyway, other than Kelly pissing off Peggy. Then we get dueling conversations. They guys are talking about breast cancer in intimate detail, and the girls are discussing the vasectomy process in great detail. Ew. Oh dear God. After the commercial we actually go to the vasectomy. I can’t.
Then Kelly goes to get a colonic. No. Vicki shows up as well. Along with her medical records to prove she had Influenza-B. Because, Vicki. I am literally nauseous watching this. I am going to flip over to The Voice so I have some room to fast forward. I am physically ill.
After a quick song, I am back in Orange County and Shannon is crying to her mother about her weight gain. I can relate to this so much. She is not happy with herself and she feels like David is no longer attracted to her. The distance between the two of them has her thinking about the affair. YES! Her mother sends her to get her hormones checked. Shit. I just remembered I have to take out the trash. UGH.
Apparently, David asking Diko to clarify Peggy’s health status regarding cancer, really irritated Diko and he brought it up to Peggy. So I suppose that will be another argument that Peggy has. Poor David can’t catch a break. At dinner she’s quite snippy with David. Then David was randomly mean to her. This is not pretty. It’s very awkard.
Vicki and her family seem like the most normal bunch on this episode. That’s saying something. Vicki and Tamra are both still trying to get together and hash out their differences. They finally agree to meet for coffee.
Next week: Vicki and Tamra meet. Diko confronts Shannon about David’s “interrogation.”
My son is 18 and has been talking about this concert for 2 years, Jason Aldean is his favorite. He’s in classes taking automotive courses and working his ass off. He asks for nothing. We thought about trying to get him to this concert but my alcoholic sister-in-law had a stroke so it didn’t work out. My son never complained. He works like a dog and gets TREATED like a dog because he works with his hands. Not by everyone, just the assholes in my neighborhood who think mechanics are low lifes. I worked so hard to get him a ticket and it didn’t work out. He thanked me for trying. Now I can barely function because this could have been him. His friends are there. They are such excellent kids. I am frozen.
I was heartbroken reading this, and then doubly so when I realized who wrote it. Stay strong, my friend and I hope you hear from his friends soon.
Oh my goodness I am so glad your son was not there. I really hope his friends are ok. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
My youngest son is 31, their Dad did construction his entire life, yes there are those that don’t appreciate work if your hands get dirty.
If your son is good, possibly great he will be valued. He will be employed when others with 4yr. degrees can’t find a job.
There is a demand out there for his skills from the standard shop to specialty shops.
My boys worked blue collar H.S. – college classes. Oh yeah, some students stuck their noses up as did the parents. I saw the looks.
One Son by choice has remained in the field after getting his degree, another son told his coworker during a slight difference, he still has tool belt … if the other guy wanted to continue the argument fine with him. Both would be fired. The guy walked away.
Once your son gets out of classes and into the adult world he will be appreciated. You will be a proud mama.
This wasn’t his concert to go to.
Love Jason Aldene.
My god Becky, that was a close one. I hope all of your son’s friends are safe and sound…and thank god that it worked out that your boy was not there.
God was looking out for your son. He will be blessed in some other way at another time for being a good person. Praying for his friends and for you.
Glad your son is safe. As far as being a mechanic — a good mechanic can work ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD! How many professions can claim that. Do not be bothered by what other people think of your son. You cannot control them and it is a waste of your time to try. Concentrate on being grateful that your son has found a profession where he is fulfilled and where he can find employment — or work for himself — that pays a livable wage. Have you seen what a mechanic certified to work on high-end cars can COMMAND (note that word)? More than many doctors. So you and your son may be laughing all the way to the bank. There are many specialized fields of mechanics your son can follow. Classic auto restoration, muscle car mechanic, etc. Everyone with a car needs a mechanic and when we find a good mechanic with INTEGRITY most of us never leave!
I found that awkward too the way David asked about the cancer. At first I thought he was siding with Shannon in trying to get to the bottom of it, but I think he’s just been out of the loop and is often late to catch up on what’s happening. He often blurts things out in a simplistic way.
Why, oh, why with the colonic? Why would they think we’d want to see this???? There are some sick and strange people working at Bravo.
Bravo has a fecal obsession. We get treated to front row seats at colonics as well as every time a cast member’s pet relieves itself!
That and gay shit.
Diko is new to this reality TV thing. David was seeking CLARITY on info already out there, not interrogating. David is old-school. He likely would not have broached such a sensitive subject, but Peggy started it early on. When someone shares a “secret” before the camera, it is open season. Diko, THE NATION knows your business. If you need to blame someone, blame your wife for lacking communication skills — and not because of ESL — she told different people different things. And SHE brought up the subject. By the time David heard, the entire OC likely knew. Because Tamra is the biggest blabbermouth around. The worst part is when she puts her interpretation on something. Not trying to lie, just NOT THE SHARPEST PENCIL… There was that rude woman at Shannon’s party who Tamra told Kelly called Kelly a prostitute. That lady (Nina?) was A BITCH, but what she said was that she didn’t have to give blowies for money. She was recently divorced. The phrase is OFTEN USED by divorcees to mean that they get alimony and no longer have to perform “wifely duties” to get money from their (ex)husbands. Bitchlady MAY have been implying that Kelly was a hooker — or perhaps she meant it the alimony way and Tamra just INFERRED that she called Kelly a hooker. Lesson here: Consider the source. Tamra often misconstrues stuff, and not trying to twist words, she just doesn’t understand some of the subtleties. Calling Heather Fancypants at times for using 8th-grade words that she and Vickie didn’t know. And should have. I don’t know how Vickie can understand an insurance policy. Perhaps she is an insurance savant. I hate when she doesn’t get something and her eyes fly open and her mouth drops open. NOT a good look — in either sense of the phrase.
The Kelly/Vicky segment was disgusting. If I were ever to get a colonic I don’t think I’d bring a friend.
The producers of this season have absolutely zilch to share with the viewers, clearly, or we would not be seeing these rejuvenations, but but especially , the colonic episodes with multiple women discussing the quality and quantity of the fecal matter- it is utterly absurd and meant to be crude and stupid, in my opinion. They have offended us on every other level, and have shown Vicki and Kelly to bed almost as off as Yolanda, why not on this too?
They are testing us on every level now, and want to see just how much literal garbage we will put up with, apparently.
There is ZERO new material, zero substance. The indulgence of whoever it is who enjoys making people look so needy and vulnerable is a major turnoff and getting worse- it makes us think less of everyone involved. It was completely disgusting and way over the line-shows how utter devoid of any meaning the show is this season, and yes I am aware of the double entendre.
This show is was way past cancellation time when the highlight of the season, the most critical climax, is a coffee meeting between Vicki and Tamra. Snooze fest. No one cares at all about Vicki any more.
Iceland needs to blow it all out of the water- even so, why watch 14 episodes of this clap trap?
Agree. Vickie thinks her colon is around her liver. How stupid could anyone be? Peg being a English major at UCLA; her kids can’t cook; Peg knows nothing about idioms? Too much too dumb.
Lydia has a boat.. not the one they went on. THought she explained that it was owned by someone that bought an ad in their new magazine. THink the boat they owned was the one
they used a tender to get to the real boat.. that I doubt ever left the dock?
I don’t understand how BRavo thinks we will be interested?
“Her kids can’t cook” How picayune can you be? They seem like nice, polite, respectful kids and they’re only in high school/leaving for college. With all the problems in the world..
I like Vicki. I don’t care about Shannon, Tamra or Meghan.
Or have it filmed.
Did I understand Vicky saying she never poops? I kinda checked out during that nonsense but somehow caught that. If true, that explains SO much about Vicky.
And Bravo has some kind of fascination with poop. The whole first season of Dallas was nothing but bathroom humor. And let there be a dog taking a dump within five miles of a Bravo camera and we always get the zoom lens close up.
Vicki probably doesn’t poop. She seems to be the type on a bunch of meds and that can mess with your bowels.
Vicki has said on many occasions that she doesn’t got potty (her word, not mine) and we all know she has bladder issues. She really needs to use a bathroom now and then.
You heard it too?!? Vicky said she doesn’t poop because it’s gross. You can’t make that shit up ~pun intended! what a lunatic.
A psychiatrist would have a field day that one.
Diko brought the subject up. He’s the one that went into detail. So glad not to hear about “balls” again. Looks like Lydia can’t do anything adult unless she calls her mother. Shannon and David are over. Bet the kids would be happier. Vicki wondering what she has done wrong is laughable. Even Steve is sick of her shit. At least with Yolanda we didn’t see the colonic process. Only watched tonight to avoid the news. I just can’t and nothing new to report anyway. Hope you feel better tomorrow, TT.
I have to say the one saving grace of this show is Shannon.
David seems completely done with her.
Is diko on the show? I feel like he’s on screen more than Megan.
I’m surprised people are so drawn to Shannon, I find her very cruel and manipulative. She can’t let go of things but what’s worst is that if you’re not on her side she’ll make sure she gets as many people against you as she can.
Although to be fair, that pretty much describes all of them — Vicki, Tamra, Meghan, Kelly. Not Peggy I guess, but partly because she’s so new. Watching Peggy on WWHL and she doesn’t have the accent tonight.
I noticed that as well. Don’t like Peggy. Rarely cracks a smile and just doesn’t fit in with the rest of the group. Can’t stand her miserable face.
Completely agree!! I usually fast forward thru the Shannon parts.
WHY did anyone at Bravo think we really wanted a several episode arc and party venue about Doug’s vasectomy?!?! I just don’t care. At all. How would anyone care except Lydia and Doug? If one of my friends invited me to a Balls Voyage party I would turn them down and reevaluate our friendship. This is so fucking stupid. Then the colonics! I had to stop myself from throwing a lamp at the tv.
My ex best friend was exactly like Shannon. It was so exhausting being her friend. I was always on pins and needles, not knowing what would set her off. When she told me that I could do better when I got engaged, I was pretty much done with her. I have been happily married for 30 years, she is on her third marriage. Friendship shouldn’t have to be so difficult. It is all about Shannon all the time. She really needs extensive therapy, maybe even as an inpatient.
I really think the world around Shannon would change dramatically if she ever got herself a bottle of Premarin.
A job would help more
I am sick to death of Bravo’s fascination with vaginal procedures and now, assholes figuratively and literally. Show me the inside of your fabulous designer closet, not your colon.
Shannon and David are beyond over. It was painful to watch the sniping beck and forth and see how much they are hurting their daughters.
Agreed. I think the producers have obsessions with genitalia and poop: How many of the shows have vaginal rejuvenation, butt hole waxing, incessant talk of poop…UGH!
A change in producers might change the ridiculous content of these now idiotic, unwatchable shows.
Because of the horrors that happened today I went to my trusty Bravo. I’m sorry but even colonics are better than the death happening around us. Thanks for posting TT. Our family knows a young lady who was shot last night and in times like this I just pray we do better as a people.
You keep on hoping for both of us.
Has it ever worked?
Not for me, unless change happens hoping is futile.
The husbands are on way too much right now. I don’t want to know anything about Doug’s vasectomy but they showed the couple talking about it, going to the consult, talking about it, partying about it, having the procedure. ENOUGH! And then there was Diko’s disgusting comment about “can’t you pull out?” Do men actually say that to each other? If so, I am the most naive 53 year old walking the planet.
Peggy & Diko need to either not offer up the information about Peggy’s mastectomy or be coherent. I think neither of them wants to say out loud “Peggy had cancer” and that’s why it’s always so confusing when they talk about it.
The one that really takes the cake, though, is Vicki who “doesn’t know what happened.” Watch the shows back, Vicki. That might remind you of your heinous behavior!
“Peggy & Diko need to either not offer up the information about Peggy’s mastectomy or be coherent. ” Exactly!! When Lydia first met Peggy and Peggy told her about the double mastectomy, Lydia’s talking head said something like “That was a pretty personal thing to share with a stranger!”
So Peggy started out seeming open about it and later said it was a personal issue people shouldn’t talk about.
I totally agree. The ambiguity comes from Peggy and Diko and their many different explanations in between bizarrely ostentatious gift giving scenes.
This season is rough. Beyond awful! It sucks that RHOD (southern belles are bringing their A game this season) lacks viewership. Dallas is where its at this season. RHOC is dejavu every episode.
I couldn’t agree more. Dallas as a good mix of women, some of whom appear to be young but genuinely nice, all have flaws, but they seem to mean well, try and laugh. The stories are far more real, younger, fresh in them, and real. Dallas is much better and deserves the audience that Atlanta pulls in – or OC.
OC died two years ago and is no longer breathing- at all. A one season recovery from Brookes and Cancer gate might have worked, but failed-so it needs to disappear.
RHOC has jumped the proverbial shark this year for sure. I never used to miss it a few years ago and now, if I miss an episode, I don’t really care. I’d rather read the recaps here and miss out on the vaginas, boobs, vasectomies and rectums. Has this show really become so boring that they have to sink to this level, or is Bravo leading the downhill plunge? Watching Vicki and Brooks and their cancer scam, and Meghan with her Sherlock Holmes routine made for really good TV, and I don’t recollect a single body part being involved. So much of the show seems like a set-up and I’m really tired of it. I know there’s always been a certain amount of manipulation involved in “reality” shows, but when it’s so glaring that it jumps out at you, then it becomes frustrating. Kind of sad – I miss the way this show used to be.
The prize Davud married doesn’t seem so shiney anymore. David’s checked out. Shannon could possibly change herself by doing something, she is boring.
Oh Lydia, what a stupid party idea. I give her credit for setting up a nice party in a short time. She is on the good side of quite a few caterers/planners.
Shannon thinks her weight gain is what turned David off to her. Shannon, honey, check your temperament and maybe he’ll come around.
Yes!! This is exactly what I was thinking! They’re lost the communication, intimacy and trust. The death knell of any marriage. Geez, I felt SO uncomfortable for the grandma/kids during that passive-aggressive game of one upmanship at the table.
I was furiously pedaling away on my 17 year old exercise bike during the episode (as one does) and when Shannon’s mother told her the first thing she needed to do was go and get her hormones checked, I screamed, “YES!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!” waving my arms like a freak.
Now, let’s see if she goes. She seemed disinterested ..sigh..
I feel so sorry for Shannon, her sadness is palpable, and whether it’s of her own making or not doesn’t make her pain less real. David cheated on her and that’s what broke her self worth. She is constantly questioning and rethinking everything he says and does because he lied to her and broke her trust. It’s awful to watch. However, that being said, she really does need to see a professional because she clearly can’t get through this without intervention.
Lydia drives me fucking nuts! She’s trying to play out this picture perfect family and sunshiny disposition, I feel like I’m watching a really bad musical every time she is on screen.
I think I woukd like Peggy if she actually showed us who she is… for the moment all I see is a fake accent and an unwilliness to be real. As for cancer, if you don’t want people to talk and question you, don’t make it your storyline!
Vicki, I just can’t. She created his shit storm by lying about cancer in the first place, there is nothing she can say or do to be redeemed in my eyes. She is an awful human, totally narcissistic with zero awareness of anyone else around her. If she was to truly see and accept what she did then maybe there would be hope for her, but she still continues to say she did nothing wrong. She sucks.
100% on all of the above!
Peggy is an atrocious communicator. She and Diko “explained” it a bunch of times now and I still do not have an accurate picture of wtf they were saying, I don’t blame the others for being confused at all. I don’t think David was prying, I think he was legit shocked that “oh your wife has cancer??” then confused. It’s a big thing to say and scary to most people. Vicki, if you keep getting the same result in your relationships, the problem is you, not the other people. Time to re-evaluate. A little self -awareness and accountability would go an infinitely long way.
I could not agree more with every word both of you shared. Thanks!
Peggy and Diko totally over reacted to David asking about Peggy’s cancer/not cancer. He wasn’t being rude or nosey, Diko was already talking out loud about it. They’re just trying to make up a story line because Peggy is so boring.
Incidentally, not one of those women pronounced the word mastectomy correctly.
I make no excuses for RHOOC pronunciation, but i I mispronounce it myself and so do all the people I know who have had one. It;s dialect.
Lydia has the mentality of a 12 yr old; balls voyage, how clever. Vasectomy=not a big deal=not getting “balls cut off”. What a fucking idiot. The phony Christianity bullshit is trying. Mom’s a stoner; how original. Fast forward.
Tamra could be the most horrible person I’ve ever seen. More fake Christianity and tears. Give me a break. Fast forward.
Shannon is fat and in menopause. So are we; get over it, stop being such a self centered bitch. Fast forward.
Kelly and her vag and asshole. Fast forward.
Vicki is a liar. Fast forward.
Peggy also lying about cancer (that story they keep repeating makes zero sense). She doesn’t understand English routine is beyond annoying. Fast forward.
Megan I don’t give a shit and neither does your husband. Fast forward.
Did I forget any of the forgettable characters on this shitfest? I watched in the middle of the night to get some relief. Active shooter reported and lockdown on daughter’s campus today just to add to the Vegas fun. No relief to be found. I’m cranky and Pissed Off. And fat. And Menopausal. And Done.
Sorry.
@Dee: Hope everything is safe and sound at your daughter’s school. Nothing more scary for a parent than getting that “Shelter in Place” text on your phone and there is not a dann thing that you can do.
Thanks, luckily false alarm. I’m across the country right now, and you’re right, there is nothing worse than being powerless.
Your comment made me LOL. I don’t know if you meant some of it to be funny but I loved it. Thank you.
Oh and I’m so sorry about your daughter’s school. I hope all is well. What is with all these psychos??
Laugh or cry? I’d rather laugh.
Ioved it too- thanks!
I realize that Peggy’s story doesn’t make sense and she brought it up on the show but I wish we could all just drop it. The woman had both breasts removed. Just as the show began filming. Let’s let that sink in.
Her mother died of breast cancer and her father died right before filming. She provided an explanation on her blog about the confusing explanations given for her surgery. It’s worth reading. I’m gonna take it at face value.
I’d rather talk about almost anything else (except balls, colonics & vaginal surgery) than cancer. We’ve talked more about cancer on a gossip site than I have my entire 53 years. Seriously.
Seems now there obsessed with balls and boobs.
Maybe it’s because of these past few weeksof natural disasters, capped by yesterday’s tragedy in Vegas, but I can’t with this show anymore. Last night was painful to get through. By the end I had no answer when I asked myself kept watching it.
I’m done with Vicki and her neediness, seeking validation through men. Done with Tamra and her Christian vindictictivenes. Done with Shannon and her melodramatic, taking no accountability bullshit. Kelly and her attention seeking behavior. Meghan’s meddlesome investigations. Questionable medical diagnoses storylines. I can go on with the zero redeeming qualities of this show. Ugh.
Buh bye RHOC. I won’t miss you. What a waste of time. SMH….
OMG , how did you read my mind? I record everything, can’t stand commercials, and about one third of the way through, this morning, I deleted it. I just couldn’t stomach the ridiculous, petty problems these rich, entitled women gnaw over each week. I will delete the series, I can’t take them any more. HWOC joins the discards like NJ and Atlanta.
Amen sister. This show is the wealthy, non-multicultural version of Bad Girls Club. I should have stopped watching after Tamra threw wine on Jeana. I’m so disgusted I remotely deleted it from my carrier’s app while on the subway this AM. From what I see, the Shahs and RHONJ are next to go.
As much as I enjoy Beverly Hills, Vanderpump Rules and New York, the best show on Bravo is Flipping Out. Long live Jeff Lewis and his idiosyncracies. That show is such a breath of fresh air amongst all of the negativity, bullshit and drama on that network.
I dont blame any of the HW, I’m not sure Peggy has cancer. Braca negative, took biopsy showed nothing then there was 3mm abnormal cells that could be cancer. I think most viewers are confused.
Peggy could be a victim of the current wave of medical over-diagnosis in the breast cancer world. I was told several years ago that I HAD to have surgery because of abnormal sells. When I explored further was told that worst case I could be diagnosed with surgery with “Zero-stage cancer” that could not metastasize.” WTF? Got a 2nd opinion & was told frequent watchful waiting was a good option, so that’s what I did & all was fine. Many women are being unnecessarily scared into having unnecessary surgeries, even prophylactic mastectomies, & that could be why the confusion with Peggy. ALWAYS do your own research & get a 2nd & maybe even a 3rd opinion. It is your body & you are in charge. I even spoke with the doc who did my biopsy, & he wavered more on his conclusion when I spoke to him than he had in his written report.
Same thing happened to me 4 1/2 years ago. Mammogram folks @ hospital as well as my ob/gyn insisted I return for invasive tests. Long story, but I did tons of research and decided to wait & see. Recently found out there is no sign of anything abnormal.
God bless you all for sharing that.
There were a lot of women who were given hysterectomies in the 70’s, too and told it was absolutely necessary. Multiple opinions can be a very good idea indeed.
If you were to watch this show from S1 to now, you’d be watching the devolution of the human beings who started on this show, with more specious specimens coming on board each year to hasten their return to ferality.
Wanting to see how low can they go is what keeps the audience returning, but is also what is turning so many viewers away. When will it end? And how low CAN they go? It’s like watching a decade-long version of “Idiocracy.”
We are all saying the exact same thing. I do suspect it is combination of the events of the past few months, plus Las Vegas and this dreadful arc of ugliness this season , going nowhere, that did it in, but OC is done.
I would be very pleased if Bravo announced today that OC was cancelled effective immediately. Nothing to hold a reunion for- don’t want to hear another word from any of them.
Bravo ran the first few seasons of this show and what a difference!! The first season really had a lot about the kids and was more about family. It had some drama but not the constant drama and in-fighting between the women. It was relatable and I didn’t feel dirty afterwards like I had to take a shower. I remember when these shows would have maybe one fight a season or a, “Scary Island” and there would be this build up for a few episodes and it was fun waiting. They realized ratings peeked on those nights and it became a weekly thing. People expected it and the women were hired based on their ability to bring it on. What started out as a light hearted experiment has turned really dark.
You’re right Katherine 2.0, there’s are too many real tragedies and sadness right now to watch manufactured, self-created, high class problems among women who could be using their platform (as Bethenny is now) to do something good.
Ok, jumping off my soapbox.
Agree with both of you, especially the shower comment!
And Team Bethenny all the way – definitely a woman of action. And kudos to housewives who are helping in other disaster areas.
This season is absolutely crummy.
Shannon has her share of issues, but I think David is bitter at himself for marrying a woman from wealth and now he feels stuck. The comments he made to her last night were a clear indication to me that he’s created his own prison and is blaming Shannon for it.
The idea of tuning in to “reality tv” to avoid life’s harshest reality is a bit ironic. Fortunately, nothing shown on Bravo is nowhere close to reality, so I tuned in to this mess.
In the spirit of positivity, I will say that the little cards that Megan made with Aspen’s footprint as the bunny’s body was super cute! What a sweet moment, especially immersed in the continuous stream of vasectomy and colonic discussions.
I’m glad that Shannon got some real, down to earth advice from her Mother. She should see a doctor to ensure there is no real physical ailment behind her weight gain. Then she can move forward with treating her emotional issues without the nagging worry that something else is causing them. She needs to get help before she drives David and her girls away, as she seems to be making that household completely miserable for everyone.
Vicki should probably get that “I don’t poop” thing checked. Most of us would consider that a serious problem not just an interesting anomaly. I’m pretty sure your body doesn’t just up and decide not to do it because you think it’s gross. But again, why do we have to see all of this (literal) crap! If these are the fabulous lives of the wealthy women of Orange County, I’ll stick with my current financial status.
I do feel for Peggy. It sounds like she opted for a preventive mastectomy based upon the finding of the abnormal cells. It seems that the after the fact analysis of the mass that removed showed some cancer. Ok, I get it. I’m not sure why anyone seems to think they deserve more detail than that. Yes, it’s her “storyline” because it was a big part of her life at the time of filming. She wasn’t in on the Brooks scam and shouldn’t be punished for his dishonesty.
I agree with much of what you think, rebecca. Except for anything concerning Meghan being positive because she rubs me the wrong way every time I see her. UGH!
Shannon is a spoiled little rich girl. She proved that when she yelled at and gestured to Tamra at Kelly’s boob party to “COME OVER HERE…NOW!” What a total bitch brat. Tamra is foolish for allowing herself to be spoken to like that. To Shannon: Please let David go. He’s just not that into you. Keep your girls healthy and concentrate on them. David will be as good, or better, a father when he’s happy with his life. Please just let him go peacefully. Their marriage will never mend because it seems to me they don’t even like each other, let alone love each other. End it now. The girls are old enough to understand.
rebecca had it right, I think, about Peggy. I heard Peggy’s story several times now and each retelling is consistent. She had a 22 mm lump removed and doctors found 3 mm of cancerous or pre-cancerous mass within that lump. Even though she tested negative for BRAC-A gene, she decided to have a double mastectomy since her mother died of breast cancer and she wanted to eliminate her risk. I really haven’t heard her change her story. Also, what is the proper answer to the question “Do you have cancer?” when you HAD cancerous cells? David’s question was confusing.to Diko because Diko’s answer caused David to repeat it increduously. It went something like…
David: Does your wife have cancer?
Diko: No.
David: So she doesn’t have cancer. (looking wide-eyed)
Diko: Well, she had 3 mm of cancer then she had a mastectomy.
David: So she does have cancer. (looking smug)
I mean, what’s the correct answer? Diko could’ve been clearer if he said she HAD a lump and when they removed it they found pre-cancerous abnormal cells within that lump so she decided to have a double mastectomy because her mother died of breast cancer when she was young. At this point the subject begins to go far beyond acceptable cocktail party banter and it was up to someone to zip it.
Sorry but Vicki and Tamra MUST get back together if this season has any hope of salvation.
Tamara knows she must get back with Vicki (at some point) or she has no storyline. How long can her storyline be, I’m not talking to Vicki, Eddie’s not gay and by the way I’m a Christian.
Vicki the liar doesn’t need to get a check up. I’m more than certain she takes massive, steaming shits on the regular.
Stupid question, but doesn’t it smell when you get a colonic? Or does the machine vent the gasses? Because for all the many reasons I wouldn’t accompany a friend to one, smell is at the very top.
I’ve no answers for you. Colonoscopy is a medical procedure to look for abnormalities using a camera. Precancerous testing that saves lives. A good outcome, repeat in 10 years.
Colonic is what, for fun? If Vicky doesn’t have IBS or ? a balanced food plan would fix her problem.
This entire subject in a social setting is disgusting. It shows a lack of involved people with interesting lives to share.
What happened to socially approved topics, vacations, books read, charities worked, funny family stories or home reno’s.
These are not real people, maybe we are being punked.
Long time lurker, first (and hopefully last time) poster. I just have to put this out there; Doug is a SISSY man. When Lydia picked him up after his vasectomy and he said he was hot – code for little Dougie passed out. Does it bother anyone that their young boys have frosted tips on their perfect coifs? Does it bother anyone that their kid is named “Maverick?” WTF?
Has anyone else noticed that in almost every scene, Doug has his arms crossed? This sissy man completely believes he is superior to everyone else. HE reminds me of the hipsters with man buns that I just want to grab by their burly beards and beat the crap out of. And, when he talks, he whines. Oh, by the way, “did you know there is a lady in the bible named Lydia?” seriously? These guys are repugnant, arrogant, irrelevant and stupid.
I sure could use some of Lydia’s moms pot right now. I hate this show. Thank you for letting me vent.
I think David is on the way out again, and their little post affair honeymoon high, has done fizzeled out. I like Shannon, but as a wife shes a debbie downer, and seems clueless about keeping a man happy. Her mom seemed to be trying to get Shannon to make more of an effort to make David happy, so she doesnt wind up alone. I actually have a different take on when Shannon was trying to call Tamra over though on the prior show, and said now! I agreed with Kelly that Tamra should have had Shannon’s back. You see, I think Tamra purposely ignored Shannon’s pleas for support and lied about that. She only came clean in her talking head. I think she did that to Shannon for numerous reasons. Shes one nasty ass bitch, who enjoys seeing people in distress or at least is unfazed by it happening to a friend even, and she wants to gaslight Shannon again. Shannon has been a great friend to Tamra and deserves better than that, and probably screamed now!, because she cant believe her good friend doesnt give a shit and is happy to eat and chat and be oblivious to her distress. Shannon unfortunatly, is better at the friend thing than the wife thing. The wife thing is so much more important. Shannon should never have forgiven Tamra when she gaslighted her before. Anybody who would do that is not friend material or to ever be trusted. Shannon goes out of her way to back up Tamra, and Tamra repays her by ignoring her and having a great time doing so. It reminded me of a friendship I had that was similar, and when they enjoy your pain, they are sabataogging you.
I like your take on the Shannon/Tamara friendship. As to Shannon and David I remember a few seasons ago when David first saw Meghan, he flirted with her to the point that I thought he was going to offer her money to go him with him. I knew then he was horrible husband material and no matter what his wife did she would never be enough. Sadly, he’s proven me right. So, I don’t blame Shannon for his cheating ways, just hope she cuts her losses and runs from his disgusting, cheating ways. Yes, she’s borderline crazy but I’ve watched as he helped her over the edge.
I just moved out of the OC and now live close to Las Vegas. I miss the weather but not the ladies who are too much like Vicki, Tamara and the now thankfully departed Heather. I love the people where I now live and feel their pain at this latest slaughter. It’s like all the negative ions in the world got together and started bouncing off each other. Something has to change and I agree not watching this franchise would be a good start.
In the end, Shannon cares about one person- Shannon. She is completely focused on making sure everyone around her knows how they can help her feel/look/be better. While I do see her aware of
I don’t see real unselfish love in any of her relationships, whether David , her daughters, or her friends. That is her fundamental flaw. Every single thing she focuses on is important only in that context. And that is why she is so miserable.
That’s where we differ, I see her drowning in her misery of a marriage, lacking in self-awareness certainly but not soulless like the Vicki’s and Heather’s of the world.
Question RE: “banking” sperm. Isn’t that a sin? Why do I know this but the churchies don’t?