There was a very interesting AP report today concerning Joe Giudice and his future release from prison. The big news is that ICE has already placed a detainer on him and they will be deporting him to Italy.
The rest of the news all is the result of that retainer. Here is what I said about the retainer and how it effects his RDAP program in a very lengthy post on the subject you can read here.
So, to summarize, Joe could well get into the RDAP despite his illegal status in the country as a non-citizen; however, the only result of that would be to move him into an ICE facility a year earlier. It’s still a good gig for him if he can get it with regard to moving out of prison sooner, but most likely he will be spend at least a couple of years awaiting deportation in an immigration detention facility. If he gets lucky, and is admitted into RDAP, and earns all his good time his release date will be 3/14/18. That’s a week short of two years.And then, he will be in the deportation center for most likely at least that long, in which case it highly likely that the next time he is a free man will be no earlier than 2020 and he will be in Italy when it happens with no possibility for a visa to return.
Lawyers for Joe were in court today arguing that Fort Dix is excluding him for the RDAP program which now pushes his release date out a year father to 3/14/19. Their motion also claimed that the prison is preventing him from fighting his scheduled deportation. The prison does not allow inmates to appear before immigration judges. According to the court document, other federal prisons allow inmates to challenge their deportations. The earliest he will be able to challenge the order is after his release to ICE in 2019. This is a problem because it takes years to challenge the detainer and his attorneys want to go ahead and get started on that.He is not going to win a challenge against ICE. He will likely spend at LEAST two years in civil detainment. Then he will eventually be deported to Italy no earlier than 2021 and will not be allowed to return to the United States.
This explains the rumors that Teresa is ready to divorce Joe. Teresa has publicly denied the latest divorce rumors but this make divorce a much more likely option. I do not see Teresa taking the kids and moving to Italy.
Joe Giudice reported to Fort Dix on March 23, 2016.
My heart is breaking for his girls, who didn’t do anything wrong in all of this, but will be paying the biggest price for it.
Of course Teresa will divorce him..just the kind of trashy bi*** she is, IMO. I feel so sorry for the children.
Sadly that is almost always the case. Being a criminal causes a lot of pain to a lot of innocents. I say good riddance to bad rubbish.
Wow. All for things, and/or impressing people?
Betcha 15.4 million he’d rather be living in a shelter (with his family).
Maybe Trump can help him.
I mean Teresa was on his show and I heard she got along with him.
I don’t know legally how all that could work but stranger things have happened.
I doubt very much is Trump is going to pardon Juicy Joe. Though crazier things have happened.
He pardoned Sheriff Joe before he did time. Normally a pardon happens after a person is in prison doing time.
Teresa absolutely should ask, possibly Joes only chance. Everything is so ass backwards something like this does not even matter anymore.
I don’t care where Joe goes, however to be fair he should be deported.
The girls can visit him there or not.
I can’t believe the sheer stupidity of these pardon comments. Perhaps those of you who think Trump would pardon Joe should bone up on Trumps thoughts on illegal aliens.
Why should Joe be exempt because his wife was on a stupid TV show? Trump is actually pushing for non citizen criminals to leave the country. Terrible the damage these two did to their families. Too bad the kids have to pay the price.
I do feel sad for the kids. Innocent offspring of felonious parents.
I really feel for his daughters who love him so much especially Milana ( even though he verbally abused Teresa & Gia ON CAMERA) & was drunk or just didn’t give a shit about American laws. I still believe that even if he was allowed to stay, he would commit the same crimes again. He doesn’t care & he never admitted to doing anything wrong during the airing of any seasons of #RHONJ. His stock answer to everything was “Whatever” or “Shut-up, Don’t worry about it” #ByeJoe #FelonsByBravo
Very sad for the girls. Gabriella seemed so close to him while Teresa served her time. She was the tomboy of the bunch, playing a lot of soccer. I feel bad for his Mother as well.
His mother should have helped him become a naturalized citizen of the US and taught him right from wrong!
Good…not just the little guys….Great when these show offs are held accountable.
You said it Den! Spot-on!
I could not agree with you more! These 2 thought they were smarter than “the average individual”. When they got caught I truly believe it truly affected Teresa as she had absolutely no way to influence the Judge or the final decision on their punishment. These 2 FELONS should have thought of their children before they committed their crimes and not use them now as a shield, a reason why their punishment should not be “harsh” i.e. deportment to Italy. Hell, Teresa is always going on and on about how “us Italians” are the best at everything, she should be over the moon to going home. Have you ever listened to her massacre the Italian language? Sad really but if marriage is a sacred commitment as she says it is then she should stand behind her man and get ready to move the marble mausoleum to Italy. get ready Tre, your days on RHWONJ are numbered YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy wife, happy life! Tre said so herself S1. I hope it was worth it, Joe.
My heart goes out to this family. This is one pardon I would like to see happen. This is the only home the children know. I do not want this family to suffer anymore. They have paid over and over again. Dear lord keep this family together.
How have they paid “over and over” exactly? Joe and Teresa defrauded innocent people out of millions, none of which, to my understanding, has been paid back. On top of that, they committed fraud against the federal government and both are convicted felons. The court gave them a GIFT by letting them serve their sentences consecutively rather than concurrently.
Now Joe will be very justly deported. He committed a felony as a non-citizen. He doesn’t get the privilege of staying here. Yes, I’m sorry for their girls but Joe and Teresa should have thought of them before deciding to commit multiple felonies. The girls don’t deserve it, but Joe and Teresa deserve every bit of punishment they have received and will receive in the future.
YAAASSSSS!!!! THANK YOU!!!! Joe and Teresa gave not one thought to their young, sweet and impressionable daughters.
Not only did Teresa not learn her lesson, she has refused to accept one IOTA of responsibility, and she’s passing her ‘values’ to her girls.
Although her daughters will miss their father, him being gone is one less bad influence.
Good riddance.
Agree with you both. With all the money they wasted to look like “big deals” not even an iota of college fund money saved for those girls. Now Teresa is crying about it while wearing Tom Ford.
100%. I feel terribly for these kids, they’re in a horrible position now, but their father is a fking moron, as is their mother, and they were already given a huge gift by being allowed to serve their sentences apart rather than simultaneously. They show no remorse or acknowledgment. His ass should be deported.
Wish hers could be too.
My thoughts exactly. Joe was too arrogant and Teresa too stupid to realize that yes, they would get caught and their family would pay the price. I think Teresa will divorce Joe too and immediately hook up with a guy with a few coins so she can live her old lifestyle again
He would have to take on those badly behaved kids
I have little sympathy for the Guidices. They brought all their troubles on themselves-but yeah, being deported and permanently barred from this country is tough.
Well Italy is not exactly a hell hole. I wouldn’t mind being deported to Italy.
That’s what I thought too! Its not like he’s being deported to Guatemala.
LOL, Guatemala? Hope you don’t hear crap for that, I think you are a hoot.
Lol. That’s where my mother is from. Beautiful place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there.
Lol, seems so random. Don’t think I’d think of Guatemala.
Yes that is what has me smiling, Guatemala. What about Patagonia?
I said something similar on another site. It’s not like Italy is a shit hole. But I don’t see Teresa packing up and moving there with the kids. Visiting yes…moving no.
Hopefully they have raised the girls to speak Italian. Gia will be over 18 by then, but the other three will not. I just do not see Teresa divorcing him while her dad is still alive.
Will Italy take Tre in now that she is a felon?
Is Teresa not a US citizen either? Wtf?! And wouldn’t having American born children allow them all to stay in the US? It seems extremely cruel for our government to force legal residents to split up or move to another country. Although Italy looks totally fab.
Having said that, I’m all for deporting the entire Giudice clan. They’re just gross.
Teresa is a US citizen, born in New Jersey.
Anchor babies are not a real thing. Joe is not entitled to apply for any kind of immigration status from his marriage or otherwise because of his multiple convictions. Or rather, he would have to disclose them on the application which would then be denied because of them.
If he had followed the laws of this country this would not be happening.
Joe had 28 years to become a US citizen. He is an Italian citizen that chose to not follow the laws in the US.
I support a more liberal immigration policy than Trump however, if an immigrant breaks our laws they should immediately be deported and never allowed in again. Period.
What a stupid mess.
Why on earth did he not get his legal status finalized years ago at least through marrying Theresa.. Smh..
Marrying a US citizen isn’t an automatic thing anymore. That changed a while back. He could have applied for citizenship or naturalization (whatever it’s called) when he became 18. He was only a baby when his parents moved to the US. His brother became a US citizen. It doesn’t surprise me because it seems like a typical Joe move. He doesn’t take things seriously and puts things off. It’s not in a mean way, more of a stupid way, that the details aren’t important to him. Well it’s now caught up with him. Teresa was too ignorant to care about what she was signing. And their families are paying the price for it. The stress pretty much killed Joe’s father and Teresa’s mother. I can’t even begin to image what their girls are going through. Especially Gia. She had to take on the mother role while Teresa was in jail. She had to keep things together while dealing with a drunk father. I know Joe and Teresa did this to themselves, but I really hope this is their wake up call to turn things around.
I guess I always wondered why Theresa continually put the blame on Joe for their legal issues knowing he faced deportation, but Theresa is who she is and won’t change.
I do feel very sad for the kids but that’s it. He is a criminal. There are kids in school and college about to be deported out of this country who have never done anything wrong and most likely don’t even remember their home country they’ve been here so long. So no I don’t feel like any pardon or easy treatment for Joe is warranted.
They are not. DACA is still in effect for 6 months while Congress gets off its ass and comes up with a path to legalization for them.
However, criminals should be exempt, so no pardon for the Juicey.
The Giudice kids do not need DACA they are American citizens.
DACA doesn’t apply to any of these kids because they were born in America.
“dreamers” are kids who are foreign born, but were brought here as very young children by undocumented parents.
Teresa is a citizen, all her kids are natural born, American citizens, DACA won’t affect them.
Cheychey wasn’t saying that DACA would apply to any Giudices, only that it would be unfair to give them special treatment when the dreamers are facing very likely and unfair deportation.
Ah, I see, I misunderstood 🙂
Who’s fault will this be? I’m not sorry for any of them, not once have they told the truth about this and Italy is a lovely place, hopefully her not skeevie house was worth it and the crimes hurt each of us, financial or not.
The sad thing for the kids is that they’ve got sleazy parents. And if the parents get away with it, that will be what the kids learn from it. Those kids lives have been padded and spoiled off the backs of innocent people who doubtfully could provide as much for their own children. Don’t we have enough home grown felons without keeping the ones that don’t belong here? The Governor of California today (Governor Jerry Brown, Gov. Moonbeam, as he’s called) put out an edict that said illegal alien prisoners let out of prison (who can only be there for violent crimes now) will be released and not deported. Let out to victimize more innocent people. The precinct in L.A. with the largest recidivism on burglary is the one closest to the jail. Why? Because they reoffend before they get 5 miles from where they were incarcerated.
That’s not true at all. Apparently you get your “news” from Fox and Breitbart.
Unfortunately we aren’t allowed to give off-site links on TamaraTattles. But hopefully most people are smart enough to find real news sources that debunk your false claims.
DebB, What a load of bull crap. Holy shit people actually believe that.
Apparently we are as a nation in a educational downward slope.
Were you taught how to fact check, using sites that can be verified by independent sources?
When you hear such a slanted crazy thought, stop, think, does it make sense?
i was just going to say nearly the same thing! 🙂
I live in a California county with a very large Latin community, majority now, yet our sheriff does turn undocumented felons over to ICE.
They are trying to oust him from office and turn the county in to DACA sanctuary county. /sigh
YAAASSSSS!!!! THANK YOU!!!! Joe and Teresa gave not one thought to their young, sweet and impressionable daughters.
Not only did Teresa not learn her lesson, she has refused to accept one IOTA of responsibility, and she’s passing her ‘values’ to her girls.
Although her daughters will miss their father, him being gone is one less bad influence.
Good riddance.
What’s with the deportation centres? Can’t he just serve his time in jail and then get sent back home? It seem’s like an unnecessary step. Why keep him locked up and fed and watered?
I don’t understand the concept.
Me either. Why can’t he self-deport? I can’t imagine that he would find any other Italian citizens in the deportation center. Teresa and Joe both speak the language and they have family in Italy so going back there does not seem like a horrible fate to me. I’d like to see Teresa woman-up and stand by her man but who knows?
There are over half a million people in line to be deported with only a couple hundred immigration judges. So it takes around two years to get your trial on the docket. In addition, the country taking the felon back, in this case Italy, has to agree to take them.
Joe could sign away his right to a hearing and just agree to the deportation, but it is unlikely he will do that. Though I think he should. So if he doesn’t sign away his rights, he will spend a couple of years in a detention center that is much, much,much worse that were he is living now.
Me too. I mean, if the writing is on the wall anyway… heck, I’d give back my fraud money if I could go hang out in Tuscany away from a screeching nagging wife and screaming kids.
Ha bloody ha! I honestly don’t think that I will truly be happy about this situation until the family loses everything and they have to work minimum wage jobs to pay everything they owe back. I do not feel sorry for the kids … unrealistic expectations have been set for them … last season when the 2nd daughter was wearing braces I was just enraged! Pay your debts ya bums and bravo stop paying felons.
When he traveled internationally, did he use an Italian or American passport? Also, is he a DACA person? He came here at two.
Obama was not president when Joe was two. DACA was a temporary program put into effect by Obama until a permanent solution could be agreed upon.
TT, Joe is too old for DACA but it has nothing to do with “Obama not being president when Joe was two”. Any individual born after June 15, 1981 is within—and shall remain within—DACA’s age requirements. Only individuals who were 31 years old or older on June 15, 2012 are ineligible for DACA. Joe was born in 1972. Obama was inaugurated on January 20, 2009.
“Joe was born in 1972. Obama was inaugurated on January 20, 2009.”
Ergo, Obama was not president when Joe was two. DACA was a temporary program put into effect by Obama until a permanent solution could be agreed upon.
He would not be able to obtain a US Passport without a certified birth certificate from the US.
He would have to have traveled on an Italian passport.
Or on his brother’s passport. One of his many crimes was using his brother’s drivers license.
Would Teresa be allowed to enter Italy? Since she is a convicted felon would Italy allow her entrance?
Oh good question!
Just out of curiosity, are all of Joe’s siblings and mother non-Us Citizens as well, despite the fact they’ve been living in the US for over 40 years? I know they moved here when he was very little, still don’t get why he didn’t take his citizen exam, but then again the Guidices aren’t the brightest bulbs. I feel for their daughters, it’s not their fault their parents are criminals and screw ups. Of all places to be deported to, he’s incredibly lucky it’s freaking Italy. He’s not being sent back to a worn torn, third world country. I have strange a feeling he will thrive there, despite not being able to return to the US if the court rules in that direction.
all of joe’s family are citizens. for some reason, joe never became a citizen (not sure just why though?) he had to have know that he wasnt a citizen. remember when they went to the dominican republic and italy? he would have had to travel with an italian passport.
Some people don’t like social security numbers.
One needn’t be a citizen to get a SS# and I’m sure he has one.
You do not need to be a citizen to obtain a social security number.
Maybe Joe can use his brothers legal documents and get a passport and stay?
He’s receiving his punishment and rightfully so, if he’s deported as a consequence then c’est la vie. He should count himself lucky he’s being sent to a beautiful country such as Italy, many are deported to far worse places. I’m confused as to why so many people are so gleeful at this prospect though? A family being potentially split up isn’t something to celebrate. Unlike his wife he has actually showed some sort of remorse and his it’s evident his daughters cherish him.
Their family will only be split up if the parents choose for them to be split up. Joe being deported won’t split the family unless Teresa chooses to stay here. Bad choices have consequences. It’s time for Joe and Teresa to face theirs.
Can’t he like “self deport”?
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Awww, I feel sorry for our Almost-all-American, mafia-type Italian thug we all know and love. If he was Tony Soprano somebody would do sumpin. I mean America seems to elevate these creatures. Part Italian Robert De Niro was bestowed honorary Italian citizenship just because he plays a mean mutha Italian in the Godfather, Goodfellas and he has Italian blood. Can’t a real Italian get a little American mercy once in a while. just kidding.
What aggravates me the most is despite all the money they stole and fraud they committed, she and the kids still have a very lucrative lifestyle. Its not right at all, I work my butt off and don’t steal but never could I afford to live like them.