When last we left Manhattan Criminal Court, the prosecutors had added two additional charges to the three pending charges of harassment and stalking. Criminal defense attorneys representing Jason Hoppy had stated that the prosecution had failed to provide the necessary discovery regarding the two new charges. In addition, the motion to dismiss by the defense team was denied. A new court date was assigned for today, August, 8th to move forward with the trial regarding the five charges against Jason.
Previously, Hoppy rejected a plea of deal that required he plead guilty to one of the harassment charges and required anger management classes and a full and final order of protection replacing the current temporary order. Hoppy refused to plead guilty to any of the five charges.
Today, it seemed odd to me that the trial did not move forward. Hoppy has made it abundantly clear that he is not going to plead guilty to anything. Why not just proceed today? Wasn’t that what everyone showed up for? I’m guessing we have a jury trial looming.
Today, the judge offered the option of an adjournment in contemplation of dismissal.
This an adjournment of the action with a view to ultimate dismissal of the accusatory instrument in furtherance of justice. Under New York law, in the case of family related cases things would essentially be put on hold and if Hoppy causes no further problems with Frankel within the next year everything would be dropped. At least that is how some news outlets are reporting it.
Sounds good to me. So why did Hoppy refuse the offer of adjournment in contemplation of dismissal?
Because that is only part of what happens. After reading the exact law (CPL § 170.55) there are all sorts of stipulations to this sort of agreement. The court can and likely did include the anger management classes and the implementation of a full and final protective order as part of the adjournment rules. It could also require that the two parties commit to a dispute resolution and “comply with any award or settlement” determined by a mediator. The court could also order that community service be served during all or part of the year of adjournment. So basically, the judge can include all the punishments he wants over the next year if Jason were to accept the adjournment in contemplation of dismissal and the only benefit to him would be there would be no conviction on his record.
So once again, Hoppy has requested to move on with the trial. The new date is September 27, 2017. I predict that he will request a jury trial and his lawyers will repeatedly point out to said jury that he has turned down both a plea deal and an offer of adjournment in contemplation of dismissal in order to clear his name in the face of these charges. If the jury finds in his favor, and if I were betting, I’d bet on an acquittal, he will be able to ask the court for attorneys fees to be paid by Frankel.
So that is a long explanation of why we are in the same place as we were last June.
In other news, the Hoppy Diaries twitter account has finally been removed. It usually knew exactly what happened in court right after court was over. Bethenny has been trying to get it taken down forever. And now, *POOF*!
Since he is so adamant over going to trial, I’m thinking he’ll win.
If he truly was guilty, he’d take the plea bargain and be done with it.
They both really need to move on.
Wait, only innocent people go to trial? Guilty people all take pleas?
I didn’t know that.
I was going to venture that he’s adamant about going to trial because he’s just arrogant enough to believe that “If they just hear my side, I’ll be exonerated.” Or sociopathic enough. Whichever.
I’d say he wants it to go to trial, because his attorney feels that he has an adequate defense. I highly doubt he would go against a woman with vast financial resources without good reason.
He’s not going against a woman with vast financial resources.
He’s going against the State of New York.
This is a criminal case. Bethenny is not the state.
Yes, but she will USE this situation to modify the custody agreement if she can. Let’s not pretend to be so naive. That’s how she rolls.
Bingo! She won’t be paying any attorney’s fees either as others say he will request. The DA is bringing the case forth and also believe they have enough evidence to do so.
Exactly. He could be forced into a different custody agreement over Bryn. Lastly, what woman wants him with those charges following him around?
Yes, and she is his everything.
Mrs. Hoppy, is that you?
How could you possibly make that statement about a stranger? Especially a stranger who, as you point out again and again and again, is silent in the media?
I mean, you are VERY invested in this, replying to every comment thread as if you have some special insight.
Do you know Jason?
You don’t care if you’re wrong about someone or not, so why would you care about who I am or who I know? You’d just keep right on with it anyway, because YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAW ON TV and you are apparently an expert on people.
Ah, evasion and a Tu Quoque turn-it-around-on-me non-answer. LOL. I’ll take that as a “no”, you don’t know Jason.
Interestingly, that hasn’t stopped you from proclaiming what he thinks and feels about any given subject, as if you live inside his mind.
Then you do the same thing to me (telling me what I care about) before accusing me of what YOU’VE been doing the whole time – thinking I’m an expert because of what I’ve seen on TV.
My, you’re a special kind of special.
LOL
He wasn’t able to convince the Court that he wasn’t a threat when the granted a year long restraining order.
Courts will generally always err on the side of caution and grant the restraining order. There is very little convincing that goes on during a restraining order hearing.
That isn’t true. I have worked in the court and they are thrown out all the time. It has to be serious to have it for a at least a year.
That is patently false. There needs to be cause for restraining order.
Spot on
Narcissistic personality disordered people have fragile egos
He’s upset about the assault on his image not about what he actually did
And he will lose
WHat is the Happy Diaries?! I’ve never heard of it! Does anyone actually know Jason Hoppy? I wish he would just give his side. I bet he doesn’t for the sake of his daughter, but I hate that he never defend himself in the press. I wish an insider. In his camp would speak up!
The Hoppy Diaries was a parody account on Twitter that seemed to know more than a normal amount of “scoop” on these matters. Whoever ran it announced last week that they would be taking it down. They ran out the week & then it was gone. Jess, I don’t know this for certain, but I am pretty sure that Jason does not come out & tell his side, because there are probably legal agreements in place. You’ll notice on the show, most of the time Bethenny has other people talk about what she wants to get out about him at the moment. I believe a big part of the reason why he is letting this go to trial is so that he can FINALLY get his side out there legally. She has character assassinated him for years & he has not done one interview/book/article. I think it’s time.
I agree. We’ve repeatedly heard only one side. It’s time he gets to tell his.
EXACTLY Sidsmama.
See the thing is, Jason’s side will come out on a jury trial. All the things he has been unable to say until now will come out.
And I know what quite a few of those things are.
So while some bigger than me sites scream BETHENNY WINS BIG IN COURT!!! as their headline… (ROFLMAO) I know what is really happening.
And Jason looks like he is aging five years and is emaciated through this entire process. I know why he continues to endure.
Stay tuned.
Tamara…you are doing good work here in helping to make sure the truth is told. People seem to forget that Bryn’s future hangs in the balance & I know this is the biggest reason why Jason continues to fight this. Bethenny made a huge miscalculation by assuming he would lay down & take whatever she dished out after the marriage dissolved, because this man was raised to do anything to protect his child. That will never change.
Can you tell us some of his side? I hope it comes out in court.
Is it true that Bethenny wouldn’t have anything to do with Jason’s parents? If so, I hate her for that. They were so lovely and welcoming to her.
It was a parody twitter account. You would not believe how many window lickers thought it was real and asked ‘Jason’ questions. I didn’t follow it, but I read it from time to time and thought it was funny.
Sorry – we must have replied at the same time.
I REALLY think that Bethenny does not want to see this go to trial, because up until this point the public has only heard her side of the story (which, is obviously skewed). I also heard today that she went into a “thing” at the reunion about this that even had the camera people crying. Oh man, Jason really does need his day in court…but something tells me she will do ANYTHING to avoid that. It is my personal belief that she started all of this to try to reduce or take away Jason’s custody of Bryn. I pray that does not happen, because with a Mom like that she will need her father desperately.
What ACTIONS has Bethenny taken that indicate to you that she will do anything to avoid having this case go to court?
This is a criminal case. That means that Jason’s actions, in the judgement of the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, rose to the level of criminal conduct. They’ll be making their case soon. But SHE started it in order to alter the custody agreement? Interesting logic there.
I guess it’s her fault for calling out his BS, not his fault for doing the harrassing and stalking in the first place, right?
You don’t know what SHE did to provoke his behavior. That’s what she doesn’t want everyone to find out. Yes, she has done these cover-ups before, like in the custody trial when it was his turn to testify and she quickly decided to settle. There absolutely IS a pattern with her doing this sort of thing, as well as using her friends on the show to plead her case for her. I guess you’ll deny that too?
So whatever Jason did, he was provoked, and therefore it’s Bethenny’s fault, right?
Do you always blame men’s bad behavior on women?
We’ve already gotten for harassment and stalking: “He was provoked. It’s her fault.”
So if Jason:
Physically assaulted her? “He was provoked. It’s her fault.”
Vandalized her property? “He was provoked. It’s her fault.”
Stole from her? “He was provoked. It’s her fault.”
Tell me: when is Jason responsible for Jason’s behavior?
In divorce and in life, it takes two to tango and you have only heard about ONE of the dancers thus far. That’s why I hope this does go to trial, to show how she provokes the behavior once and for all. Yes, she absolutely DOES play a role in this. She is quite the aggressive player and has proven that repeatedly.
“how she provokes this behavior”, you mean, the aggressive harassment??
I know women, any women, can act badly, but “provoke” behavior like this from a man? Bullshit. The man is not some hapless idiot who cannot help but be driven and provoked to behaving in a harassing and threatening manner by a woman. You do not “provoke” that level of behavior, the other person resorts to it, it’s not your fault.
I could be an insufferable bitch to someone, if they start threatening to destroy me, emailing me nonstop, threatening violence, etc.I did not “provoke” that. What I did isn’t even comparable to the next level they went to, they and they alone are responsible for their actions, just as I am responsible for mine, but one does not cause the other.
Boy that is a dangerous thing to say re: women and harassment.
There are ALWAYS two sides to every story & thus far, you have only heard ONE of them.
That’s right. Remember that she tore him up in court and then when it was his turn, she settled. She’s a calculating bitch.
Oh yes, I certainly do remember that! She ran her mouth like crazy & then it all went POOF before he had his chance to testify & we ALL KNOW that she would have never agreed to 50/50 if she wasn’t afraid of what he was going to say. I also heard that she went into a crying fit at the reunion taping about what Jason has “done to her” that even had the camera people balling…oh, it’s got to be an award-winning performance for sure!! Yuck.
Exactly! They even added more charges. I think she has enough evidence to bury him. I think he is just obsessed with winning. He can say she is awful and mean and all that, but a judge cares about the law. She isn’t on trial, he will be.
Jason looks older and so thin. Obviously this is having an effect on him too. Sad that they are tearing each other apart.
Not sure about New York law, but if the prosecution has not provided requested discovery and has not requested a ruling from the judge that they do not have to provide said discovery, then the case would be delayed until the prosecution complied. Usually, in criminal cases, the prosecution has to turn over everything and there cant be any “surprises” or last minute “AH HA!” moments for the case. Hoppy may well be innocent, or at least she was complicit in their relationship issues, or he is a sociopath who thinks he can jerk the jury around.
Jason has certainly done some horrendous things to Bethenny, including all those hundreds of emails to her & the man she was dating & the public scenes. I do not sympathize with him, & I think he is using this as another way to get at her financially & publicly. Not a good way to treat the mother of your daughter, & I’m not sure about his mental health at this point. Go away, little man.
I agree. I think he will do whatever it takes to punish her including letting this go to trial.
He will do anything to defend himself & clear his name, because his child’s future depends on it.
I guess you didn’t watch their show then. She was a freaking lunatic! He tried to give her a birthday party and she lost it, crying like a deranged woman and not being thankful of the gift that he got her. Then she decides that she doesn’t want to spend time with his mom and dad or even want her daughter to be with the only grandma and grandpa she will ever know. She would rather hire a stranger to help with the baby then her own mother in law. She looked really bad and everyone that watched that show turned into team Jason and she didn’t like that one bit.
This woman has turned into the woman she despises the most; her mother.
Jason is pissed and rightly so. She used him as a sperm donor
Go, Ktina!
Oh for crying out loud! Is this some type of competition or something?? I have no horse in this race, but for Brynn. I hope they can both set aside their over-inflated egos and realize that their daughter is all that matters.
Yes agree totally about her keeping Bryn from Jason’s gorgeous parents who were so lovely and welcoming to Bethenny. ?
I love how you watch a couple seasons of a highly contrived, heavily-edited-to-fit-dramatic-structure “reality” show and then you think you know these people! It’s like you’re an authority on their desires, their deep-seated psychological motivations, every obscure corner of their personalities. All from TV!
Spoiler alert: YOU DON’T KNOW THESE PEOPLE.
Watch the episodes. Bethenny is nuts!
No, go back and watch the episodes! She did not want to spend every weekend at her in laws house and Jason did. Benthany said they can come to New York or they can go once or twice a month to see them. Families need a routine, including Dad and Mom. Bethany has every right to say how her time is spent and where. It is not up to Jason and his family!
I think there is more to it. I don’t think she is innocent. I recall hearing her say on the show that she didn’t want her daughter with them people, referring to hoppy and his folks. She needed a man when she started out, discarded him as soon as she got what she wanted. I do love her this season, past seasons not so much.
Yep, she clearly wants him out of the picture.
This is a common tactic to religigate a divorce settlement with better leverage. Adjournment with binding mediation usually displace previous agreements re:support and custody.
Ah ha, that’s exactly what I thought. Thank you, Valerie.
I used to like Bethany, she was fun and refreshing. Things changed soon and weren’t so much fun anymore.
She spent an entire season talking about how she wanted a man and a child, then bam! Pregnant and engaged. Then bam! Bye, husband.
I feel like she used Jason to have a child and then discarded him because his purpose was over.
My opinion, of course.
If all she wanted was a child she didn’t need to marry somebody to have one. She got pregnant before they were even married, so why marry somebody if you’re just “using” them for a baby? That doesn’t make sense. If she was going to discard him because he fulfilled his “purpose” of getting her pregnant, then she would’ve done so and not married his ass lol
I think she rushed into the marriage because 1) the baby 2) she was lonely and wanted a family and thought he was going to be as good as it got. I can understand both those reasons, she thought they could make it work. They also suffered a miscarriage during the marriage, too, so they lost another baby.
She had a show and needed to deliver. THAT’S the only reason she got married. MONEY and FAME
The show is not where she made her big money, though. I just don’t agree a person who was terrified of marriage would go through with a false one, which later took 4 years to end, for “money and fame”.
She was famous already and she made her serious money through her brand, not her show- though I agree, the show did help her promote her brand. She didn’t need to get married, though, to be on tv.
She didn’t get a spin-off until she met Jason & she wouldn’t have gotten a spin-off or a huge deal with Jim Beam without the so-called “fairy tale story” either. That’s what everyone bought into. I mean, that stuff doesn’t even taste good. I don’t believe that she “planned” to use him as a sperm donor, but in the end I think that’s how he was treated.
Now you’re just revising history. Beam Global didn’t buy a “fairy-tale”. They bought a product line that they thought fit an under-served market niche, Jason or no Jason.
Sorry, your boy wasn’t that important.
I think you’re absolutely NUTS if you think a company would have bought that garbage if everything hadn’t been going right in her life at that time. If they are going to promote a brand and fork out that kind of money on a deal, the face of it should at least be likeable…especially when their product tastes like THAT.
Your opinion on its taste is just your opinion, apparently other people feel differently because it does sell, as do her other products.
But I see your view and of course you have your right to it.
I don’t think Jim Beam cared about her being married or having a baby, it was the product, and yes, her celebrity on RHONY and past on other shows helped since she was going to continue to market it for them, but I think she was going to hit it big with or without her spin off because of her business skill and work ethic. You cannot deny she puts in the time, blood, sweat and tears. She hustles.
I would never discount the hard work that she did, but there are a lot of people who have done similar & greater work & nothing ever comes of it. Timing & events are essential in the evolution of any business plan & a woman who finds love, has a child, gets married all in the course of months, after having little success in her personal life is huge. We were all rooting for her & unfortunately, this union did not last. The truth is all going to come out in the wash. It may take a while, but it always does.
Jason Hoppy is a jerk who is bitter because his ex has it all and he has zero control. The state would not pursue this without evidence and it is never ok to blame the victim! Any man capable of bullying his ex is also capable of bullying his child, some even do that to get to the ex.
Ya never know whats going on that we don’t get to see but once the courts are involved its real! I imagine Bethany would do just about anything to avoid ALL of this. Personally I would be concerned that my children were in the care of someone who stalked & bullied me……..
I think the last place Bethenny wants to be is in a courtroom with this moron for any longer. She is screaming to be done with this guy, I think it’s he who needs to move on and just parent his child- leave the acrimony for your ex out of it.
I don’t think she wants anything the hell to do with him honestly, why trump up charges? I believe he’s harassing her, his behavior, is at best, nuts.
I’m sure bethenny’s done things she’s not proud of that he could spill the beans about but I’m not sure how that’d change the nature of his behavior toward her which is why she got a restraining order.
I agree with both of your posts. I think Bethenny is the easy target for people to hate and assume the worst because of her human moments we see on RHONY people want to make her out to a monster. I don’t always agree with her behavior but fair is fair and it’s Jason who I believe is in the wrong here. He received his big settlement and he has joint custody now he needs to just be gone She did not force him to harass her (allegedly).
I agree, Shae. I think people are blinded by their hatred for Bethenny and are excusing some pretty shitty behaviour by Jason based on that.
This is a man who sent 160 emails in a 3 month period plus texts and phone calls. If Bethenny had breached any of the court orders regarding custody I suspect he would have taken great pleasure in hauling her back before the courts. She clearly isn’t and yet people assume she is trying to deny him access to Brynn based on zero evidence.
Bethenny is entitled to abide by the custody agreement and otherwise be left largely alone. If Jason doesn’t feel that she is abiding by the agreement he has the right to seek legal redress. Not harass her.
I have been very close to someone who was on the receiving end of similar behaviour after a divorce. When I read that one of Jason’s messages to Bethenny was “I will continue to contact you as I see fit” it gave me chills. That is EXACTLY the wording my friend’s ex used in response to some fairly reasonable boundaries (e.g. don’t text after 9.30pm unless in an emergency). The message very clearly was, “You will never have peace”.
It was so distressing and emotionally exhausting for my friend. Even with a custody agreement she was hesitant to make plans because the chances were high that he would request a date or time change for visitation If she didn’t just agree to every request, even if she offered a compromise, he would blow it entirely out of proportion and play the role of the father being denied access to his son – because he wasn’t allowed to pick him up an hour early or something equally trivial. All she wanted to do was abide by the custody agreement and be left alone to get on with her life.
I’m probably biased from watching my friend go through this but I’m still team Bethenny on this one. She’s not perfect but she is not responsible for his behaviour. He is.
100%. And my god, I am exhausted and distressed for your friend. For someone you’re not even with to have such control over your life is scary, having to tiptoe around men with a temper is a sore spot for me, too. It gives me the creeps, hence why I am leaning heavier on Jason being out of line.
We are all biased from our experiences, I am the first to admit certain sensitivities to things based on mine, and this is one of them.
Amen! You said exactly what i was thinking n
I honestly have come to believe neither of these so called parents are good for Bryn and likely were using each other for their own agendas. During the divorce it came out that Jason’s Mom illegally did something, something to do with being a notary, that involved their marital home, that’s how Bethenny ended up with it. Yes, Bethenny can be an awful bitch but I got a feeling that Jason is playing that “oh poor me see what she’s doing in the press and media and on the show” bit and staying quiet bit just a little too well for my tastes. Fact is, the State of NY pressed these charges. The added charges. He did send hundreds of harassing emails and texts to Bethenny, her then boyfriend and her staff. He did cause a scene at Bryn’s school and the school staff did call the police, not Bethenny. Bethenny only added to the charges after the school staff called the police and had him removed from the property. No matter how you cut it, a good parent never ever causes a scene at their child’s school in full view of the kids and other parents. I don’t believe for one minute that Jason is completely innocent in any of this mess, he’s just playing this game a different way and gaining his sympathy supporters by making sure nobody knows for sure what he’s really done or up to.
So now being “mum” to the press is a “strategy” on his part, to make Bethenny look bad? Wow, hook me up with his PR firm.
He’s said NOTHING to the press about her. Meanwhile she’s dragged him through the mud. Her daughter will love reading about what mommy said about daddy. This little girl will side with her dad. He’s normal.
He doesn’t talk to the press because he doesn’t care what people think, only what the judge thinks, and he knows that the court system doesn’t take kindly to people talking to the press. You only have to look at any post ever about Bethenny to see that he doesn’t need to say anything to get people to hate her anyway, they already do. His work is already done for him.
I don’t think either is allowed to speak on this matter. If you pay attention, it’s usually Carole who initiates the conversation when it comes to Bryn and what’s happening. Bethenny will only say that she’s going through Hell right now.
He’s so not normal. Bryn better not find any of the nasty emails Daddy has sent Mommy saying she’s not a good mother, she’s just like “bernadette” her mom who doesn’t want her baby and how he’s going to “destroy her”.
Also, where in the press did Bethenny trash Jason? Very, VERY little came out during the years of their divorce proceedings due to Bethenny’s fear it would compromise negotiations.
All you’ve heard this year, since the divorce is final, is about his harassment of her and her bf via emails and texts and his arrest, which was public. How is that dragging someone through the mud?
I think they are both at fault. In the beginning she did say things publicly that didn’t need to be said, i.e. that she knew she was making a mistake by marrying Jason. That was just wrong. They both seem to dig in their heels and are focused on “winning” and not doing what is best for the child. And the way she went after Luann in the Berkshires was completely nuts. It seemed to be such an over reaction to whatever Luann said, something about similar haircuts and being Sonja’s mentor? That was appalling. That was pretty aggressive behavior on her part. I don’t recall seeing anything that the school called the police.
I don’t recall seeing that either (regarding the school calling the police) & let’s not forget that Jason was arrested at the end of January & Dennis “left the scene” before Valentine’s Day. I think he “may” have seen some truth in what Jason was trying to tell him & decided to exit stage left before he became the next victim.
” I don’t believe for one minute that Jason is completely innocent in any of this mess, ”>>>>>>
Neither do I. He always struck me as creepy. He had some ‘thing’ about his dead sister and family—like right off the bat he was telling Bethenny they would have to take the baby to visit his family every other weekend or whatever—-like their child would be some kind of offering to his parents in place of their lost child—VERY creepy.
He was also’ passive aggressive’ in a lot of his remarks to Bethenny—-he would say things like…’you really don’t want to do such and such’….in a ‘shocked’ tone of voice that came across as if whatever she was or was not doing made her a freak or bad person.
He knew she was screwed up re her own family and had emotional ‘issues’ and he used them against her.
Total creep.
It was his brother Brian who passed away in a tragic accident, thus the name Bryn (which was Bethenny’s idea). He’s not creepy and neither is his family. They’re just ordinary people from a small town and for whatever reason, the match didn’t work out. Let’s see if this goes to court and listen to his side for a change, because you haven’t heard it YET.
My husband and I had the same feelings about Jason and his parents. We would talk about it after the show, something was WAY off about all 3 Hoppy’s. I hated the way he’d poke & provoke her, like when she clearly explained she didn’t “love”her birthday & didn’t want any fuss/celebration….so what did they do? Force a B-day party on her, then act all shocked when she wasn’t HAPPY?
I 100% understood her side, because I am the same way about my b-day.
I have great parents & wonderful in-laws, but I wouldn’t want commit to every or every other weekend either! Nothing wrong with wanting to settle in & have alone time with your new baby.
Then the sneaky notary thing Mrs Hoppy and Jason tried to pull.
~NO, something’s OFF with that family and I hope the Judge & Jury see it.
In a trial you cannot bring up proposed plea deal to the jury. Also, he wasn’t charged by Bethenny for the crimes, he was charged criminally by the State of New York, so as far as Bethenny’s liabilities towards his attorneys fees are debatable. He may proceed with a civil suit against her for damages after however
You’re right. Bethenny may very well not have any financial liability for the attorneys fees speaking of which must be huge
Am I missing something here? Not totally for or against either person necessarily, but I honestly don’t understand why you would need to send that many e-mails or to that many different people. If two people are divorced and need to talk about their kid, then they should exchange communication about their kid, but if one person won’t communicate about the kid and it becomes an issue, you can utilize the court system. I don’t think a judge would look favorably on a parent not communicating with the other parent just because. If you choose to not use the legal avenues at your disposal to solve an issue that you are unable to solve otherwise and choose instead to inundate numerous people with e-mails and\or calls and texts (especially after you’ve been sent a cease ad desist letter that says the communication isn’t welcome) and then make a scene at your child’s school, well to me that is an issue. I don’t understand the point of view that he must be innocent because he is choosing to go to trial, of course someone who is being accused of stalking or harassing doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong, otherwise they probably wouldn’t do it. If you’re a parent and can’t communicate properly with your child’s other parent, just figure out a way to get it worked out, ask for a mediator or get a court order. Are you really thinking about what’s best for your child if you’re going to that extent? Does it really make you the better parent?
In all honesty, since we only know her side of the story I think it’s difficult to determine the answers to those questions properly. It costs a lot of money to “use” the legal system on a regular basis & we know who has the lion’s share of the dough in this case to play games.
From what I heard, BF would not answer any of JH’s emails about simply picking up and dropping off the child, medical care, school etc which is what caused the flurry of emails.
By “numerous people” you mean two – Bethenny and her still-married, temporary lover, Dennis Shields.. By going to court Jason’s attorney gets to question them and we get to hear the story from Jason’s side. I believe Bethenny put “twenty on ten” and distorted what really happened – like you making TWO people into “numerous people.”
By numerous people I meant numerous since I had read there were also e-mails sent to staff members of his ex-wife, apparently I’m not as knowledgable about the case as you are, my apologies. Also, not sure of the relevance of the boyfriend who received the unwanted e-mails being a “still-married, temporary lover”, but you’re right, it seems like the father of the child has simply done what was necessary to get himself to trial so everyone can hear his side of the story. I do wonder though, and maybe you can answer, if he was so desperate to tell his side of the story, and in the divorce case his ex-wife got to tell her side and then settled before he could tell his side, why would he agree to the settlement instead of continuing so he could also be heard, especially if what he would say is so damning? I’m not highly invested in this case, hence the lack of knowledge, but have read a few articles & the comments here & I just feel bad for their daughter, if either of them feel like they’re doing her a favor by dragging all this out, she has got some rough years ahead. It seems like they both want each other out of her life.
You are asking why didn’t Jason refuse the settlement and take the stand? Maybe because the settlement gave him what he asked for. I guess he didn’t want to go court but Beth didn’t want to share custody, but after testifying and probably sensing that she came off as a liar she agreed to shared custody. That’s pretty simple to understand.
Jason didn’t arrest himself. Nor did he ask for a plea deal. He wants a trial. He wants twelve people to judge if what he did was stalking or someone being unnecessarily frustrated by a very wealthy ex-wife who wants full custody of their child.
Just curious – if this indeed goes to trial and the jury finds for Jason are you going to feel the same?
If this goes to trial and the jury finds for him, I will be glad for him and for his daughter that the matter is over. Will I think it was the right thing to do to cause a trial in the first place? No. I have no doubt it would be frustrating to deal with an ex who won’t communicate properly if that is what was happening, but I will still feel that the proper thing to do would have been to take any issues through the proper legal channels. To me, actions speak louder than words and the very act of handling issues privately would show the true concern for the daughter, something that doesn’t seem to have been done on either side. Honestly I hope the jury does find for him, doesn’t mean what he did was okay, but maybe it will all blow over and it will be one less sad thing for his daughter to read when she gets older. I find some flawed logic in some of the comments made about this, but I’m okay to agree to disagree, I’m not that important. Good day!
Oh Andy. You is kind, you is smart, you is important.
We all know that people with money and power can apply pressure to officials. We have seen it time and again. Bethenny is a manipulative snake and she pushed buttons to get the result she wanted to play the victim and the fact that she allegedly likes adderall and her emotional instability makes one nervous. We are all pretty sure she hired someone to tail Tom and show Luanne he was a dick so what wouldn’t she dig up dirt in a prosecutor and do the same??? I can see her doing that. The woman has a brain for business but when it comes to stability she is bottom rung.
I remember reading an article on this site when all of that Tom stuff was happening and they were in Florida for the engagement party. The “friend” Bethenny was getting the info from was supposedly someone in production for RHONY, but you’re saying she actually hired someone to follow Tom?
I think Jason wants to go to court as badly as the judge and Bethenny don’t want him to. He gets to ask for all kinds of documents, he gets to make Bethenny testify in court. He gets to make Dennis Shields, high-falutin’ banker, testify in court. Once the jury hears Bethenny’s whiny, unlikeable, petty testimony, they’ll see how this is an attempt by Bethenny to loosen Jason’s custody rights. Shame on Bethenny.
Whatever happened to that visit Bethenny was suppose to be making with her mother so Bryn could meet her grandmother? Probably won’t happen. I don’t see Bethenny having a successful relationship with her daughter in the long run cause Karma’s a bigger bitch than Bethenny.
I don’t think Jason could recover attorney fees from Beth – she pressed charges, but it is the prosecutor who decides whether to prosecute him.
The time has come for this to be determined by a judge! Get over it. Move on. Orders set by court, they abide by them. Enough. The daughter needs to know how joint parenting works! I feel sorry for the daughter.
My divorce was almost fifty years ago! and I still remember the fear, pain and stress of it. I had one child who was just five years old, and my ex-husband hired private detectives to follow us around. The divorce took two years, and the attacks didn’t stop then. The only way I got shut of the blankety-blank was to move 600 miles away. I feel so sorry for Bethenny because no one knows the hell she has been going through. I pray Jason is ordered to end it all.
Let the truth be told and justice be served.