TRIGGER WARNING: This post will touch on some things that involve politics, the POTUS, homophobes, racists, Zionists, misogyny, the most recent housewife and other disturbing topics. If you come here to get away from all of that sort of crap, please click here to go to a safe space and do not reopen the post.
I have been trying to get to the pig blood market all day. In fact, I will probably stop this recap and leave to do just that before I finish this up, but first I wanted to let you know the RHOBH/RHOOC adjacent news that is all over the Internet and give you a place to talk about it. I’ll be providing links to some of the relevant arenas where the fighting is happening.
Maurico’s Mother, Dr. Estella Sneider, is to blame for the current uproar. She took to Facebook to let us know that Peggy Sulahain has a gay brother who she hates because Peggy hates gay people. For a bit I thought that was the whole story. But then I realized after browsing Estella’s social media that Bravo has mislead us on RHOBH portraying Estella as the kind counselor who steps in to gently guide the family during difficult times. If you check out her Twitter, you will find that she is THE ANTI CHER. In case you don’t know Cher, as in Sonny and…., spends a lot of time on Twitter arguing with strangers about how great liberals are and how republicans are all going to hell. Estella is the exact opposite of that. She is a rapid supporter of Trump. She spends a lot of time on social media spewing her love and admiration for Trump. I believe both Cher and Estella have some degree of dementia.
Pol’ Atteu, Peggy Sulahain’s gay brother, was Anna Nicole Smith’s personal designer and friend who appeared on her reality show. Clearly Estella is a fan of his designs. His website also lists Claudia Jordan as a client among many others. Pol’ is engaged to Patrik Simpson.
The short version of Estella’s Facebook rant is that last December, Peggy and Pol’s father died and Peggy and Diko had not even told Pol’ he was gravely ill. Pol’ was not allowed to sit in the family seating area at the funeral. Patrik was barely allowed in the service at all and was not allowed to sit next to his partner and comfort him. Patrick was told to stay back from the grave at the burial. Neither Pol’ nor Patrik were allowed at the gathering following the burial.
That is the gist of it.
As long as we are on the forbidden subject of politics, I am horrified that the POTUS just randomly announced this morning that transgender people cannot serve in the military. He has no comment on the thousands of transgender people who serve in the military currently and if they will be kicked out. The White House press briefing today was horrific as well. Sara Huckabee Sanders threatened to end the whole briefing if people didn’t stop asking about the new transgender ban plan of Trumps.
Anyway, I was already not liking Peggy and Diko. This certainly doesn’t endear me to them any further.
And now I am off to the Pig Blood Market.
I remember Anna Nicole”s designer as being Bobby Trendy.
Anyway, all of these people are crazy.
Bobby was the “decorator”. If you can call that decorating.
I’m failing to remember this other guy. I think(?) I watched all seasons of Anna Nicole, but damn, that was practically a million years ago & so much has happened since.
Remember in the early seasons of RHOBHs when Estella got that facelift and baby Porsha was petrified at the sight of her. That’s my same reaction when I go through her twitter feed.
-coming from a draft dodger…..
Who admittedly claims to know “more than his generals” and disparages them publicly. Also, he apparently did not discuss this policy shift with defense secretary mattis or the joint chiefs in advance. He just conferred with the voices in his head and tweeted out a massive policy shift that will affect thousands of active service members. I am distraught for all the trans military service people currently serving us. I’m sure life as a trans person is insanely hard in many ways and we needn’t make it worse for anyone by taking away their livelihood and calling. I’m comforted McCain stood up for them today and said anyone fit to service, should be allowed to, but we all know what our dear leader thinks of John McCain, and how he’s “not a hero because he was captured”, so I don’t imagine that will go far.
In re: Peggy, I hope that is not true. Family is too important to ostracize due to bigotry. It makes me incredibly sad.
That Twitter photo she’s using cracks me up.
What is a pig blood market?
What on earth is a pig blood market? We don’t have this in Canada.
I looked to see if I could find my post about the last time I went to the Pig Blood Market. I could not. It is my nickname for this really weird Asian “farmers market.” It’s a pretty gross place that has all kinds of weird produce and grocery items. The nickname comes because when I first read about it on Yelp people said they could not stay in the store long enough to shop because of the smell. Apparently they sell Pig Blood. Not sure why, never actually seen it, but I believe it is in there somewhere. There are also large containers of live fish in murky water that you pick and they kill for you on the spot. They have lots of weird fish you have never heard of, whole fresh octopus, giant prawns weird names of things I can’t remember.
In the meat section there was a bin for “burned skin.”
The food comes from Mexico and Asia and Canada primarily. I bought a little tin of pork pate from Canada. I probably won’t eat it. But I’m going to try it. I bought some tins of sardines in tomato sauce that go in that same category.
I bought a watermelon, limes, cucumbers, some sort of melon I’ve never had before, a red onion, a mango a sweet potato, some green onions and such to make a salad of some sort. I was in the store for almost two hours. I was nauseated when I left because the place smells awful. And I was exhausted. I only now got all the crap I bought put away.
There is also a weird aisle that looks like some of the stores in Libya where I bought two knives in packages with Asian writing because I desperately need some sharp cooking knives. This double wide aisle has cooking pots, interesting asian dishes, weird cups and pitchers, cheap bamboo utensils all kinds of scrubbies and kitchen gadget with Korean writing on them. It’s all really weird.
I’ve been to this chain before, but this store just opened where ghetto Publix used to be. I miss ghetto Publix. I was excited to go and see what cool spices and international brands they had. There were no organic veggies, though the other store carries them. Because of the location here in the barrio, it was very heavy on Mexican stuff. In retrospect I think I was the only white person in the store. My cashier was Guatamalan, and the customers in from of me were from Botswana and Nigeria. I know this because the customers were male and were hitting on the employees. LOL.
Oh and while I am standing around staring at all the weird shit on the aisles the man and his three kids is on the aisle and a little girl around five ran smack into my grocery cart. She screamed bloody murder. He told her to shut up and then put her mother on the phone. I suppose I was more traumatized than she was.
I got home at 8 missed the window to call my brother and wish him Happy Birthday and was too tired to unload any of the crap I bought that didn’t require refrigeration. I mustered the energy to feed the dog, and drink the $2 Fostor’s Oil Can and do two recaps and now I am plum tuckered out. At least I will sleep well tonight. I can’t remember the last time I walked and stood for two hours. My heels and back are killing me.
So that was most of my trip to the Pig Blood Market. I doubt I will go back any time soon.
I love your adventures, Tamara! It doesn’t matter if you’re at the pig blood market or the pharmacy getting pseudoephedrine, your life’s episodes make for fun reading. Rest now and prepare for the next.
My life is soooo strange. Even staying a home is a wild ride everyday. You should see my inbox. lol.
All, I am now worried about my lawn kid. He was here on Monday and supposed to come back on Tuesday. Frankly I could pay a young 18 year old every day of the week. Wash the car, clean the gutters, fix the fence, prune the bushes, clean the fence line, scrub out the pots for planting. and on and on…. He is extremely polite, gets up every morning at 6 am seeks work, works hard, does things before I even ask ( like cleaning up a slab of meat on the street in front of my house… so grateful for the cash.
Then he didn’t show up on Tuesday or Today.
My first theory was that he got $30 and went off with his baby momma to spend it. But there was a $40 carrot dangling for the back yard.
So now I am concerned that he is a Jehovah’s Witness. When I taught elementary school I taught second grade and prepped my kids for the spelling bee that the could not enter until third grade. I gave a few of my promising students word lists and flashcards. I followed those kids and one year one of my second grade girls who was a Jehovah Witness who had to leave my class for any sort of celebration WON THE DAMN THING in fourth grade. So I gave her something and congratulated her. It was probably a book. She said she could not accept it because the glory all went to Jehovah.
Which brings me back to the yard kid. When I found out the kid wandering my yard was his, I gave him a couple of super easy Dr. Suess books to read to his kid. Now I am worried that his parents got angry because he accepted a gift and he will never be back.
I hope he was just busy with his baby mama who came by twice while he was working and called him 99 times while he was working.
He’s literally the perfect lawn kid. Le sigh.
Lawn kid showed up today, did about 20 minutes worth of yard clean up and then out of nowhere the bottom fell out of the sky in a torrential monsoon. He abandoned his lawnmower and left with his girlfriend. Supposed to rain again tomorrow and SAT. Sunday is sunny but as a southerner, I can’t possible allow lawn mowing on a Sunday. It just isn’t done. So we shall see.
What a interesting shopping day you had.
Pigs blood is used fir sausage and blood pudding but I doubt there are any British person making pudding. A Aussie friend made it for Christmas. There are a few Asian dishes also. Most likely it’s for Voodoo celebrations. Need buckets of it for initiation rites
Why only one sweet potato? They are so good.
We have the same smelly Asian market here and I snorted when the Top Chef competition was sent off to shop there. Have to say it’s a great place for ginger and sacks of baby bok choy, but has the dirtiest Portobellos ever and the fish…
Armos are extremely religious people and (except for the Kardashians) very old school and strict. Not trying to justify that behavior at the funeral in anyway, but perhaps the marching orders came from her mom or other elders. I can tell you that she’s been getting a lot of bad press on some Armenian Facebook groups because she is yet another crappy representation of who we are as a people.
Here here! I am watching from Australia and am australian born of armenian background. I love the glam effect of Peggy however her representations re Armenians is a joke. I feel like I would be More humble if my former home was the USSR.
Okay, here is my 2¢. I was the first female solider in the field artillery unit at Ft. Sill, OK in 1978. I had an old timer 1st Sgt that basically was against me being there. I had to double prove my worth to the company, I endured many obstacles before getting any respect from the “old timers”. Not only was I the first female there, I was also the first female to attend the advanced missile maintenance class. The first female to go to White Sands Missile Range and several other first(s). I proved my worth by also being the first female Lance Missile Gunner @ the 1/12th. I had to pee in the woods, sleep on the ground, wash from my helmet and be one of the guys without and special consideration because of my sex. I was one female to 220 guys! Now was I a tomboy and very mechanically inclined – yes! I was not gay and I am now married to a terrific guy but I have always been able to “hang” with the guys because I loved doing crazy stuff. Anyway, my point is times change and with proper training anyone can do anything IF they are able. But to say all females, all makes, or transgender people can do everything is wrong. This is something many will oppose and many that have never severed will understand the position that is being placed on the person in the foxhole next to you. So be careful what you wish for.
But nobody is saying that all makes can do everything. If a trans or gay person isn’t up to the job, they will wash out just like a cis or hetero person would.
People are disgusted by the notion that those who have proved themselves already, sometimes again and again can no longer serve because of…what? Bigotry? Also, future recruits are prevented from proving themselves at all. Is that proper?
I’m glad that you had the opportunity to prove yourself. This is like if after you went through all the training, and had finally earned some respect, they suddenly said, “Nope…no more women because reasons”. Would that have been alright with you?
Thank you for your service and stepping forward!
Bonnie, WTG girl! Proud of you, thank you.
June 2016 or 2015, can’t recall transgender in the military was adopted after all branches okayed it and we’re given time to do anything they needed to do. The US Marines were the 1st to say great we are ready. I thought that was very cool, the Marines! The cost has been negligible according to the military.
About 3 years prior to that, Obama gave a heads up to all branches that don’t ask don’t tell was being repealed. He gave them all the time they needed, over 2 years to do whatever they needed to do. THen it was 8 months later the transgender were admitted. Admitting gays openly has been a smooth process for all.
IT was not a one day bomb drop.
Were not we’re
Yeah about that massive fuck you to our military. Disgusted. My bestie is an army ranger, fought in two wars has done things she can never speak of because of her clearance. I’d go into any battle with that bitch. Plus, she rocks a nice pump.
…and it’s not just the Armed Forces. “Military in any capacity” also includes things like NOAA, the CDC, the Coast Guard, other science programs, etc. (Maybe NASA? I’m not sure).
I’ll bet every cent I own that none of this was considered beforehand. It was all, “Oooh let’s get those yucky chicks with dicks out of the military cuz ewwww”. All bigoted ignorance and no thought of actual ramifications.
My opinion only & I don’t know squat, transgender bomb was dropped to appease his far right and make a diversion from the Russia/Session/health care fiasco. He doesn’t care about Trangenders serving in the military.
In some ways that makes this announcement worse. Latest update I heard was, since there is approximately 15,000 in service now they will not be doing anything immediately.
Also it was a tweet not a signed order yet.
POS human.
I honestly think it is a LOOK A SQUIRREL bid to distract us from Jared’s testimony and Don Jr.s Russian involvement. NOT that we shouldn’t be up in arms as LGBT allies…. but we need to keep our eyes on everything else as well.
Erica, yes I agree.
Canada just tweeted they are all welcome in Canada.
Go Canada
I already know where I would live in Canada if need be – just need to figure out what job I’d go for on the work visa.
Exactly Calipatti and Erica, its an ugly pandering and he’s using the transgender community as a pawn to distract! Horrible, nasty. No wonder I’ve been fantasizing about a trip to Canada today…hadn’t made the connection. 😉
Patti:
Yes, agree 100%. This is a distraction like when someone’s partner causes a scene in a store so they can pocket merchandise with nobody looking.
Russia and whatever else. And if the boneheaded #MAGAtts like it too, all the better.
One little point that a lot of people missed: did you notice he said “his Generals”? His. Very telling.
No I missed that. Great catch. I’ve felt the leaks were because of his vocal disrespect of the intelligence community. What scares me is he has pulled Iranian sanctions oversight from the DOJ and put it in the WH. Why? His motives have been self-serving.
Yep. And I’ll be watching VERY intently what happens with this new Russia/NK/Iran sanctions bill that Congress sent to the WH today. If he vetoes it, there’ll be hell to pay in Congress. If he signs it, will his bestie Putin release information in retribution?
He’s kind of painted into a corner. He’s so slimy, though, that maybe he’ll find a way to escape it.
There is presently only one female Army Ranger assigned to a Ranger Regiment. That happened only a few months ago. I know who this person is, because my husband recently finished a Command. This female Ranger has not had the opportunity to deploy numerous times AS A RANGER. Perhaps you are confused.
Seriously can you not read? Her==Now. Used to be a HE.
Or is that to confusing to you.
Whoa , I missed that at first also.
You can hardly be blamed for missing it Calipatti because nowhere does that post say HER NOW or USED TO BE A HE.
Who knew people replying to my comment about transgender troops would confuse the topic.
Someone who is trans and is female obviously used to be “he.” That was totally clear — or should be.
No actually it wasn’t entirely clear to me. Since just a few comments earlier someone who was talking about themselves, as a she, non-transgender spoke about their military service. And a few comments later, Ninja was talking about their friend in the military, a she. No where in this series of comments was it stipulated that if you said she, we should assume they “used” to be a he. Ninja didn’t stipulate that their friend was transgender. Ninja was just throwing out their love and support for a she in the military. I’m not the most clear when I comment but will at least own it. But when someone asked, Ninja made a point of saying “can’t you read”. Well read what you wrote and take responsibility for not being clear.
Rereading what Ninja wrote, that “she rocks a badass pump”. Was that the subtle point that should have inferred she == formerly he?
OMG…the “subtle” point was the “she.”
It is fucking 2017, how can you not know that a trans person’s pronoun refers to how that person identifies in the present? Therefore, doing the math as to what gender the person was prior to the transition should not take Albert Einstein.
Ninjapanda1 you need to back up real quick. I am not that BITCH you want to fuck with. Perhaps you should stop posting lies in the comment section of a website. There are no transgender Rangers in the Army, your friend may be a cross dresser, but not transgender. And if that were the case, which according my my (Army Ranger Officer husband is not) IT’S fellow soldiers would handle that in-house.
You are so full of shit.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, other than not wanting to pay for it which is MY OPINION, but did you just call somebody an “it”?
*grabs popcorn*
No need to try & incite another fight Sam, I was referring to the situation as ‘IT’S’, absolutely not a person.
Oh, ok. I’ll go get my eyes fixed.
*munches slowly*
And if she doesn’t back the fuck up? What are you going to do? These are comments on a blog, surely you have better things to do like discuss reality tv shows then threaten someone of a different opinion.
THANK GOD you were here to add your “Well, actually…”
You have elevated the discourse and improved the lives of everyone who reads here.
Brava!
Ericzku, was that directed at me? If so why? I read your posts on this subject and feel like you and I walk the same path and with the same passion for what is happening in our world. This feels shitty.
SPK:
No, that was not directed at you. I know the nesting of replies can get confusing!
??
I loved Obama and never got the intense hatred over Trump, well today I do. He can go straight to hell.
Pretty sure that’s where he will end up. Every day is a new horror with Jabba the Trump. As for Peggy and Estella, they sound like horrible people. Tamara, what the heck is a pig blood market and why on earth would you need to go to such a place? Are you secretly dating a benevolent vampire a la Buffy and Angel? Or are YOU a benevolent vampire?? Do tell!
I work for the Navy Reserves. How transgender Sailors will serve has already been established including deployment issues. Wht in the hell is POTUS even getting into established policy. It’s insane!
As to Dr. Sneider? She and I used to be friends. She and I exchanged numbers during season 1 and would speak from time to time personally, then suddenly she became a rabid Trump supporter, including co-chairing his campaign in California. The things she said caught me completely off guard as they sounded nothing like the kind, considerate woman I had come to know. When I challenged her, she simply refused to respond to me, so I decided to lose her phone number.
As far as I can tell, she became anti Obama when she and others decided he was anti semetic, and anti Israel. After seeing hundreds of her rants including some truly disturbing anti Muslim posts, I started to wonder about Kyle and if she holds the same beliefs? I’ll likely never know, but Dr. Sneider truly isn’t the person I thought she was.
Very interesting! Don’t judge Kyle by her m i l. I have relatives who are rabid Trump supporters – had to block the aunt who was posting memes and shit blaming Hillary for Bill cheating on her (and for staying with him). (It was all I could do to fucking go OFF on that – she doesn’t know that I know the dirty details of all of her marriages, since my mother has a big mouth. I wanted to ask her what she did that made husband #2 cheat on her, and also ask who she thought she was fooling, that husband #2 snapped his fingers to this day, she’d ditch current husband to beg #2 to take her back.
I also have activist relatives who marched in DC in January.
Erica:
Yes. I’m not going to hold this against Kyle or that delicious Mauricio until I have proof otherwise.
You would not believe the arguments I used to have with my father about politics. Parents and children can be polar opposites politically, quite easily. (Spouses too…I’ll always remember my mother saying on election days, “Okay, we’re going…your father and I are gonna go cancel each other out!”)
I jokingly say to my bestie that she’s in a mixed marriage (they cancel each other out in the national elections quite frequently)
Although her hubby has all but essentially “left the party” (not that he was active in local party politics – but neither am I with the Dems).
Oh, and there are certain core things that we all agree on. He celebrated the Supreme Court decision about marriage equality as much as his liberal wife and her friend – but probably not as much as his brother and (now that its legal) brother in law! (He was one of the best men at the wedding – I think his response to someone on FB who said “I thought you were a proud Republican!” and got nasty, when he changed his profile to a rainbow infused Love Wins, was something along the lines of “I’m a brother first, asshole! Guess you missed the wedding pics?”
President Obama was upset with Israels expansion on the lands that are not theirs. He thought the settlements would be considered aggression and halt the peace talks. That happened and he blamed Israel. Yet he increased Israels funding. Israel did not like the reprimand. There was more but the settlements were a biggie to him.
I know but there are a number of people who believe Israel is entitled to do what it wants, when it wants.
Nope, Kyle has different opinion – she said it on twitter, she has even posted a tweet from Trump from last year, saying something completely different about LGBT community. She said that Anyone who wants to serve their country should be allowed to do so & appreciated.
Or she’s simply protecting her and her husband’s business interests. I’ve not actually heard her specifically state which of her MiL’s beliefs she and her husband are against/disavow, so for me I’m not convinced that particular tree didn’t produce an apple with similar beliefs. If not Kyle than Mauricio. Attractive or not, he’s still Dr. Sneider’s son and their family are very close.
Wow, what a strong damnation based on no evidence. Do you live in a family where everyone has the same political and religious beliefs? You must have very tranquil family gatherings. You seem very judgmental of people based on family ties, it’s a shame there is no one at your holiday gathers to belittle. You seem like you would enjoy that very much.
Who exactly did I belittle. Tamara? When someone holds beliefs as strongly as Dr. Sneider and who also works freelance for her son’s business as a photographer, I’ve no evidence that says he doesn’t share her beliefs as evidence is a two way street. Perhaps she is that lone person at family dinners who espouses hateful rhetoric, or perhaps she has at a minimum grudging support from her family. It’s something none of us will probably ever know as Mauricio has a large business empire and interests to maintain.
Imagine If this got addressed on the show ! But doubt it . A few months ago Kyle had to clear up on twitter That her mother in law opinions and thoughts were her own . Dr.estella had gotten into it attacking John McCain and Meghan McCain was shocked and @ Kyle into because her mother in law was spewing pro trump stuff.
Embarrassed yet another day to be an American.
Yes me too. My DILreminds me he lost by 3 million but that doesn’t help much. Never imagined I would wake up wondering what a President tweeted.
I agree about transgenders being able to serve as long as the taxpayers don’t have to foot the bill for the surgeries involved.
It’s the hormone replacement not surgery. My God if you need estrogen or testosterone apparently you’re a disabled liability.
Wrong. Taxpayers need up the tab for reassignement surgery as well.
IMO no.
Ya know, service members also pay taxes save for funds earned during deployment. Do you seriously believe you should have the right to pick and choose what medical procedures service members are entitled to, if deemed medically necessary? No!
We agree to disagree.
I’m sure these big opportunists conceal their gender identity for YEARS, some wait until they are in their 50s and 60s to protect their children. Some have served in a man’s body their whole life while being conflicted to be who they really are. But yes, let’s disregard the brave people who have served because of which gender they indentify with. Can you imagine if Truman thought women only wanted to join the military for tampons and boob jobs?
But you are ok with the govt spending over 5 times as much for Viagra or Cealis?
No.
Bitch about that first.
If they are willing to sacrifice for us, why can’t we pay for whatever their medical needs may be?
Too expensive.
It’s not coming out of your personal checking account.
I guess the money tree will pay for the hormones, surgery and therapy needed. A long recovery process and in the interim not battle ready. Our military should not be used as a social experiment. We are at WAR, which is expensive enough and the Veterans Administration is stretched thin as it is. I have no objection with transgender people serving (and should stay in if serving) as long they have already successfully made the physical and mental process it takes and can do the job.
Please tell me of one case where an active military combat person has had SRS while on active duty.
This is not about money. It’s about stupidity and misdirection. Trump needs us to be more angry about something than him. It’s backfiring.
Plenty of CIS gender people take HRT. Most all health plans cover HRT. The military healthcoverage should be at least as good as the shit the rest of us have.
Also, the president doesn’t get to decide what healthcare covers. It’s just another stupid tweet from our POTUS who doesn’t understand the three branches of government, the constitution, or that he has no legal right to exclude people from military service because of health insurance costs.
And I am sick and tired of people talking about “combat ready” and how would they survive in a war without their HRT. First of all, even troops in active war situations only go weeks, not months in a combat zone without contact or access to medical services, etc. (And a lack of HRT for a few days would not suddenly make them incapable of shooting a gun). Also, a tremendous amount of money and time is spent training military personnel for other services as well. Their service to their country is sometimes just as if not more risky than those filling a “combat ready” role, and no less appreciated by me.
Never ceases to amaze how incredibly triggered so many people can get. Lighten up Franceses.
Will anyone stand up for woman who do not want to sleep with men, shower with men or share other personal and hygienic areas with men? The military has been trying to implement Obama policy and it is not working.
The prison system tried putting transgender men in the women’s prison and it did not work out well, too many pregnancies.
Every family uses shunning and guilt to maintain compliance. There are many black sheep’s (marrying outside the faith, career choice, mental illness, etc.) trying to gain acceptance. Move on and start a family with someone else. But that’s the problem, we can’t stand someone not accepting us, not agreeing with us.
We are hating each other because of who we voted for, so is anyone surprised we hate each other because of who we want to be with or who we want to identify with?
Anyone willing to volunteer to be the next person to stop trying to guilt and shame others into accepting another person’s way of thinking?
Nope the military is doing just fine as are the soilders, no problems in that area reported. They were Pleased at how great integration has worked. Thinking you need a new source for your information.
I respect your opinion but our opinions can not infringe on anyone rights. You have a right to privacy. Close the door. That is your rights being respected.
You would not know a person is transgender anyway.
I sincerely hear you. Times are changing and these new ways will not harm us. Not doing this will hurt others, ourselves and is not fair.
Sharing will not harm us,
• hugs to you •
Right on Calipatti
P.S. absolute crap about any prison mixing female and males inmates. Does that sound reasonable to you?
If a person has completed their transition they are sent to a prison that matches their new body parts.
If their transition is not complete they go to a prison that matches what sex they are. Penis are all together as are vaginas. They don’t get to play together. Please you sound like a reasonable person that is able to question.
If you heard or read that story, please get a different source. I understand getting caught up in a story but you need to question if your source has agenda.
I can’t imagine what it would take for me to believe that type of story.
“Paris Green, who was born a man, had been allowed to serve her sentence at HMP Edinburgh’s female wing”
…….
Has Trump changed his mind yet? Maybe by Monday..I’m taking all bets.
We don’t live in Scotland. POTUS is the president of the US. Thus Paris Green is not a relevant example of anything.
Thank you TT. I get tired.
Actually it is working. Then again, the same was said when the military included Blacks into previously segregated units.
Personally the only time I took group showers was during training. Outside of deployment one can vary shower times to be alone. During deployment there are restrictions on transgendered…not sure of the right word choice…expression, particularly when set to deploy in unfriendly nations.
Where are you getting your information from?
— “Transgender military members are in a precarious position” . Washington Post 2014 ….
Military was not accepting,, Obama ends don’t ask don’t tell regarding transgendered … begins open debate for acceptance in 2015/2016 …
— “U.S. military to allow transgender men and women to serve openly” … “the star. Com” June 2016 and
— “The military is building a case to block transgender applicants — at least for now” Military Times June 2017
Military currently training and educating to new policies and have not finalized … women soldiers informed that they will shower with transitioning men that have male anatomy ….
— US Army …. Vignette 4 “”Following her transition from male to female (which did not include sex reassignment surgery) and gender marker change in DEERS [the Army’s personnel system – Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System], a transgender Soldier begins using female barracks, bathroom, and shower facilities. Because she did not undergo a surgical change, the Soldier still has male genitalia.”””
The military will make work, they have a history of getting the job done. Not all transgender are serving in areas that require group anything.
MIlitary will work this out.
This is not to say that I think all Trump supporters are evil, but she seemed to have a such a sweet, kind, gentle nature that I never would have pinned her for a rabid Trumpist. I’m actually kind of shocked, I couldn’t make it through more than a few tweets. It makes me sad that a woman who is intelligent and successful like Estella would support Trump’s America.
I thought her husband Diko was gay too?
LOL! Thanks, Seymore! I needed a giggle after reading a lot of these comments.
So Estella is lecturing Peggy’s family about being homophobes, but she supports the current administration? That’s….I wish I could say a new one, but I think we’re seeing a lot of mental gymnastics of that type this year. (Apologies if I’m getting this wrong, but I did reread it a few times!)
“Mental gymnastics” describes the justifications made by the Trumpettes I know to a T. Now it’s quite the game of Twister as they tangle themselves into Gordian knots at each new, repulsive revelation.
Since when did conservatives become apologists for Putin? It’s all a game to them and they’ve lost their sense of right and wrong and what it really means to be an American, land of the free and home of the brave.
Freedom to be who you are, and brave enough to embrace our differences and become stronger for it.
Shame on Trump and his army of haters.
Dementia, agreed. How people spend every waking moment concentrated on this shit is astounding. I watch shows about animals now. And a little Bravo. I’m done with this fucking freak show, playing out on Twitter for gods sake. What the fuck are we doing?
I used to shop at a big Asian market. It had that smell. Sometimes I couldn’t deal, but everything in there was so interesting! Really expanded my cooking horizons it did. I miss it but not enough to move back to the city.
When I had the time, I loved scouting out Asian Markets. Loved the fresh fish in salt water tanks and all the smells. Enlightening my taste buds for more exotic items than pot roast.
I would go to the Mexican markets also.. nothing better than seeing a cows head in the butcher case.
Explore and enjoy. Mom used to cook cows tongue all the time.. tasted great. Had to boil it and she treated it like corned beef with those spices. Kidneys..nicht so much… but loved liver cooked correctly sans fava beans… and a glass of Chianti.
From the time I was old enough to walk, I wanted to be a boy. Ours was a house full of girls, but the neighbors had boys, and boys had more fun. They got to wear jeans and climb trees and play with trucks and soldiers, and they got to play sand lot baseball. Until I was 13 I was angry I was a girl. I wanted to be a boy. Guess what? I got over it. No one encouraged me to use magical thinking that I could turn into a boy. We were all a little more sensible back then. We knew science dictated our sex. Today, it’s all different. You can become the other gender by just proclaiming it. Everyone has to tolerate the proclamation, because if you disagree you are a bigot. Well, if Joe Blow can become a woman by proclaiming it, I now proclaim that I’m not really the age I look like, I’m really just 25. If necessary I will have reassignment surgery to look more like my proclaimed age. I expect tolerance.
Really, that is how you see LGBT people, as having a gender or attraction choice? I’m done.
Obviously, your experience is exactly the same as everybody else’s.
Seriously: are you ever able to see past the end of your own nose?
You wouldn’t believe the “tolerance” I experienced on a daily basis when I was perceived to be LGBT growing up. YEARS of daily bullying, ostracism, beating, being spat upon…so much tolerance! It was GREAT being the pretty boy who was mistaken for a girl by the substitute teacher and having the rest of the class laugh about it for the rest of the day. Oh, such great times. I truly can’t understand why EVERY CHILD doesn’t sign up for tolerance like that. Truly.
Ericzku, your words touched me, this is odd. I’m sorry you had to endure those painful days and being a defenseless child made it much worse. I am sorry you were treated so badly. Really.
Glad you survived, I enjoy reading your intelligent often sarcastic comments. I envy intelligence.
Patti:
Thank you. Very much. I’m alright; that stuff is all 30+ years in the past.
We swallow it and go on. What other choice is there? (I’ll save my dissertation on how the movie They Shoot Horses, Don’t They? is a metaphor for life for another day.)
Besides, I’m a big, angry guy now and nobody fucks with me anymore!
I just don’t get how anyone can look at the statistics for gay/transgender violence and think people sign up for that for shits & giggles. It’s a matter of life & death for most.
And don’t waste your time envying intelligence. I assure you, you have plenty of it yourself to spare.
??
Eric
Glad you got over what I would call your rejection of society’s expectations on girls and women (that they “can’t” climb trees or play with trucks and soldiers). That would be fairly simple to get over. However, please don’t conflate your experience with people who are transgender. The times when people were a “little more sensible” were terrible for them. People have ended their own lives and been murdered over this.
There is a word of difference between gender dysphoria and a girl’s natural response towards a misogynistic society where “boys have more fun”. You weren’t mad about being a girl – you were mad at how you were treated. Trans folk could be treated wonderfully pre- gender affirmation, but are still extremely unhappy in their own skin and have bodies that betray them.
I suggest following Janet Mock, Jenny Boylan, Kate Bornstein, and just GLAAD in general on learning more about what it means to be trans.
As much as I can’t stand her politics and viewpoints – think of Caitlyn Jenner. Male, white, rich, famous – you could probably look up male white privilege and you’d see a picture of her on the Wheaties box. Yet, she risked everything to be the woman she was inside.
She just needs to work on understanding intersectionality and that she still has plenty of privilege that others do not – oh, and that those in charge of her party hate her and thinks she’s going to hell.
Peachy Keen, your Chianti comment, the formal dining scene when he toasts the meal with Chianti in “Silence if the Lambs” played through my mind. Thank you!
Thumbs up to some and thumbs down to others – it’s called America and having a choice – but not cramming it down someone’s throat because they don’t agree with your way. I love the color yellow but you may love blue, but learning to accept our differences and not pushing ourselves to the brink of war over them. Not everyone is equal in the ability to adjust and time usually helps everyone through the adjustment phases of life. Life is not over because someone else views things differently 🙂
How boring would conversation be if if all we spoke of was to agree to agree.
It’s not like people are falling all over themselves to join the service, ESPECIALLY now, when 45 has everything in such chaos! We should be grateful for EVERY person who “joins up” and should honor ALL OF THEM! That’s my two cents. ☘️
So let’s clarify this. Everyone who is transgendered does not just gendered reassignment surgery. It is a years long process that involves medical approval and the desire to want to go that route. Stop making assumptions and actually take the time to talk to someone who is transgendered, or read a book. Enlighten yourself rather than continually drawing from a well of ignorance.
@TT. I live outside the largest military complex in the world. We are not even taking proper care of our existing veterans due to money and manpower. Vets are on waiting lists to see doctors for months and even years. Vets have died waiting, especially the older guys. Agent Orange effects from Vietnam is rearing its ugly head too. We’ve been at war 16 years and it has taken a toll on the military health care system since it covers wife and kids too. They can’t add any more bureaucracy or expense at this time IMO. Let’s take care of our existing military families not burden with future ones. Have a cool weekend.
With that logic, we should shut down the military altogether so we don’t create new people needing services.
I have family that died after a long painful attempt at both physical and recovery from his experiences in Afghanistan. I expect a phone call any day now that a cousin may have finally succumbed to his various illnesses, only recently determined to be from his prolonged exposure to Agent Orange. I work near an organization that helps vets get their benefits (from war time injuries to things that have happened to them after leaving service) I watch people go into that office on a daily basis, often missing limbs or in a wheelchair.
The HRT and surgery is a DROP IN THE BUCKET compared to other expenses, and I doubt the gender affirming treatments are done at the VA.
If you REALLY are wanting to budget cut to take care of “existing families” instead of “future ones” – trans servicemembers are hardly the fiscal choice to make.
(FYI – you know they exist in the military already, RIGHT???? So we should take care of them, RIGHT?)
I used “Drop in the bucket” too! Idiom twins!
Anyway, a friend of mine gave up trying to get breast reduction surgery through the VA (wait time was insane, they wanted her to go through therapy sessions first…and no, therapy was not required for breast augmentation). She works in the private sector now and has had it done through her employer’s plan ?
Transgender people have been allowed to serve openly since last year. They were serving before that, it’s just that they can do so openly now. Any added beaurocracy or expense needed (which was a drop in the bucket when we’re talking military spending) has already been figured in. I’m glad that you care about vets and active duty service men and women. I do too. I agree that the VA has been an embarrassment. We should respect our troops, be thankful for their service, and be willing to give them all great healthcare. Hope you have a cool weekend too.
“Let’s take care of our existing military families.”
I agree. And our transgender military families exist.
amen
We’re the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for The Common Defense. There it is written in the preamble. The American right to serve your country even if it’s backwards and in high heels.
By this logic, it would perhaps be more cost effective to screen smokers out of the military… the health care costs of smoking far outreach the healthcare costs of HRT, or even gender reassignment.
peggy is boring. her storyline is breast cancer? come on do we really need another cancer storyline after the brooks/vicki shit. and diko he reminds me of slade. a husband who desperately wants an orange