We begin with Thomas threatening Kathryn with going to court where all of their dirty laundry will become a matter of public record. Thomas says that if all the facts come out she will never work again. Not sure exactly what he is alluding to there. But the agreement they signed places restrictions on Kathryn’s visitation that indicate that her parenting at present is not reliable.
It’s time to talk about Kathryn’s lack of sympathy for Jennifer at their luncheon. Kathryn still has no sympathy and says that she doesn’t want anything negative in her life and basically everyone owes her an apology. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t that the opposite of what they teach in rehab? Kathryn says that she did apologize. She did not. Then she tries “I am still trying to learn how to handle difficult situations.”
Time to change out Jennifer for Whitney. Andy turns to Thomas to discuss his parenting. Andy says he has gotten a lot of positive feedback. Thomas talks about selling his house to move to a more kid friendly location. Actually, I believe the plan was always to sell that house.
Kathryn starts sobbing.
Thomas explains that he lives in the back house with the kids. Kathryn says he doesn’t under her breath. But he does. He does throw parties in the front house and putters around in the front house, but he sleeps with the kids in the back house. The court sided heavily with Thomas given him full custody of the kids and keeping Kathryn on supervised visitation status with the possibility of unsupervised visitation later.
Shep and Landon argue about Landon’s business meeting in Nantucket. Landon says that the she was sexually harrassed by the people she met with. They talk about Landon’s stupid comments that makes everyone believe she is a gold digger. Landon stupidly doubled down on her “Vail is a truck stop” comment. Landon backtracks on her Valentine’s Day trip with Thomas claiming that it was not Valentine’s Day, as if that even makes a difference. Landon and Kathryn seem to be fine with each other now. Landon took Thomas as her plus one to a wedding in Santa Barbara the weekend before the reunion.
Time for Chelsea to come out. Chelsea says that watching Southern Charm with her family around was a lot harder that watching herself on Survivor. Chelsea says that she likes sober Shep but she rarely sees that person. Cameran tries deny meddling in Chelsea’s relationship. Everyone calls her on that.
I am bored with all of this Austen and Shep and Chelsea crap. I actually got up to refresh my drink and there was a commercial and they are still talking about these three. Kathryn is the only interesting person on this show. Shep’s entitlement issues and womanizing is called out by everyone. Shep seems to shrug it off, at least at first. Austen and Chelsea are not together. But they are still very close.
Finally we talk about Shep being too drunk to fly home. Shep tries to play it off. Austen said he was surprised TSA let him through security. Shep told Austen to shut his mouth! Then Shep plays it off as he was saying that is what he did to get through airport security. I believe he was flagged on his connecting flight out of Atlanta. It is damn near impossible to be too drunk or fly on Delta out of Atlanta. Don’t ask me how I know this. He had to be behaving very badly and not just drunk off his ass.
They talk about Shep not feeling anything for anyone. I believe the technical term for that is sociopath. Shep says he has low moments but he is happy. He is full of shit. He looks terrible and miserable and stoned. Then he goes in on Craig for always being positive about life. He says he is delusional. Craig says he roots for people and Shep attacks anyone who is content. Shep says that Craig just wants to be told he is great all the time. Craig is astonished, as am I, that Shep doesn’t think he is a bully.
Andy talks about all the chemistry between Thomas and Kathryn. It really is noticeable. Sometimes all that chemistry explodes in negative ways though. It can be extremely frustrating. Don’t ask me how I know this, either.
Is it just me? Or was this a boring reunion?
Getting on before the anti Thomas brigade. Thankfully he is the continuity those children need. It’s easy to be the fun parent when your kids don’t see you everyday. It’s another to be present for them when they need it most, and Thomas deserves credit for that.
I don’t agree with how you see Thomas. He basically “married” a child (Kathryn age 21) and his behavior at age 51 was no better. He didn’t mentor her or take her under his wing as a good husband would. Instead he took advantage of her inexperience and immaturity. He was not a good husband at all.
They aren’t Married !!!!!!!!
They’ve never been married and it’s not his job to raise a woman who chose to be with him.
None of this changes the fact that he’s a good father.
And she went after him like a shark. Some people should rewatch season 1. He tried breaking up with her the FIRST pregnancy scare/paternity question between three castmates. He said they are at too very different stages in life – it’ll never work. She would not give up until she was pregnant. Come on you don’t accidentally get pregnant with random one night stands. That takes effort.
The show plays Thomas as the nice guy. He is not a nice guy and at best a raging narcissist. Arrogant, full of himself and disgusting. Im not taking up for Kathryn in this, but Thomas is nauseating. I feel very sad for those children. They are innocent victims in this & I dont think Thomas should have custody. The cameras are only showing what they want you to see. The locals are saying the exact opposite on TRav. He is disgusting. I hope Kathryn gets it together as well for the sake of those children. Lets face it the Nanny is raising the kids while TRav is out at the local bars and playing his Polo. Let nothing ever get in the way of a Narcissist, even your own children.
I agree with you, Your children love you anyone can see that. I think you and Thomas need to be together, I can see the love you both have for each other. Making your relationship work would be the best thing for your children all the way around. You won his heart, don’t let anyone ruin that for you, I think when your with Thomas he’s more grounded. He needs that in his life, prayers are so ing your way!!!
Best Always,
Gina
So did KD ever apologize to Snowden during the reunion??
I thought I heard Kathryn apologize to Jennifer at the reunion and Jennifer said she was a loving person who was open to being friends again with Kathryn? Unless I hallucinated it, which is possible.
She did not apologize to Jennifer. She said she did at luncheon but she didn’t. Jennifer did say that.
No Kathryn didn’t apologize as TT stated. It was all about her and her lies tonight. She must think the audience is stupid. I was surprised she admitted it was a HUNCH about Thomas and Landon hooking up. Thomas really got her by saying he had seen her at Republic’s bar by complimenting her beauty. That certainly killed her rehab/sober story. LOL
Shep needs to change his ways but agree with him on Craig always needing his ego stroked but he is a good guy though.
I hope Kathryn and Thomas leave the show for the children’s sake but doubt they will.
Ok, so now I have to watch it again and find what I thought was her apology at the reunion.
I think Kathryn is so sick with addiction that she now believes her own lies. I don’t think she believes Saint has FAS (allegedly!) because she is in denial about how much damage her addiction has done to herself and her children.
Do we know that Saint has FAS? He looks as though he has problems but I’ve never heard a real diagnosis.
I think Katherine was heavily “medicated” during this reunion.
she was and she could barely keep her eyelids open.
KD said she did apologize but I never saw it nor did Jennifer. If my son had been born with severe disabilities and KD did that to me, she would be outta my life from then on. It was heartless and unexcusable. This was boring. I changed the channel to rewatch OJ Made in America even though I saw it on ESPN a while back. That’s how boring it was. Just a side note, OJ’s parole hearing is this week. Vegas has odds on whether he will get out. Odds are he will.
Really boring reunion! Kathryn was too stoned to bring any real drama to the show and the manufactured Chelsea/Austin, Shep crap is so lame. I thought Cameran looked very bored and slightly disgusted. Wonder what her problem is? Shep looks seriously I’ll to me. His skin was so jaundiced looking! Even his eyes looked yellow. He REALLY needs to get it through his skull that booze can kill a person at a very young age. The liver can only take so much. So, do we think there will be a Season 5?
Re: Cam’s appearance: Pregnancy face combined with no lower lip filler (her filler is VERY natural which is why its so hard to tell what’s “off” with her) and no botox either- Cam’s skin has spoilt like milk- all the sun over the years. She’s a wrinkled mess (as is Snowden whose face still isn’t back to normal). Note- this is only bc she’s pregnant that she has abstained-next season her face will be back to its usual frozen status.
Landon hasn’t yet figured out to get work for free (only way she can afford it) but she still has too much pride to be name dropping on insta for free work.
Save for Kathryn, Thomas and Craig, I also think it was a boring reunion. There was a pall over it that made me wonder whether there will be a Southern Charm Season 5. Shep is such a county club preppy, underneath all his libertine behavior, that I feel like I am watching cardboard man. He does not care – so why should we? Kathryn is a beauty and a spitfire (and I am going to admit that I love the red dress and hair, just because, wow) and there is such chemistry between her and Thomas. And although I am furious with Thomas for not marrying Kathryn (among other things) yet, still when he called her a rose between 2 thorns — it melted my heart. And I actually found him endearing and sweet in expression (excluding the threat – but he was shaking with deep emotion when he warned Kathryn – like he was hurt) , and the way he stares at Kathryn is with love — he seems crazy about her. For gosh sakes – why don’t they just elope and tell no one? Ok, now everyone can throw tomatoes at me, like they do when you sing flat at La Scala.
Lol…Scotty! I disagree with you completely, as usual, but do admire your unwaivering faith and dedication to Kathryn and Thomas’s unrealized happily ever after. No tomatoes from me today! You do you and keep believing in fairy tales!? ? ??
Hahaha! Thanks, NellBell! ? Imo, we never can tell, because they always do something in between seasons that no one ever expected! ? ? ?
He looks like he’s mesmerized by her. It’s so obvious. I still think in the long run they will be together. He is obviously still in love with her.
They are both addicts and two wet noodles can’t support each other!
Boring season! It was obvious they went back after the fact and threw Kathryn in wherever they could. What a mess. The #1 mistake was starting filming without her. Oh, and they should change the name to Southern Charm stating Kathryn Dennis and Thomas Ravenal. And no Cooper?wth
Was the real old gold digger mentioned? Pat. I will have to watch it again. KD said marijuana was her additction. Maybe that is her drug of choice. I don’t think the south will ever legalize pot, but I haven’t researched that. KD could have been on antidepressants. Those will make a zombie out of you. I am rooting for her because she is young and Sir Fart has the power and money to ruin her. Landon is just a woman’s worse nightmare. She has to be center stage for all the men on the show. I will close with the spinoff show about Shep finding a woman. He really thinks he’s a catch. One may catch something like a std but that I won’t be tuning in. Oh before I forget, did anyone hear LuAnnslapped Tom in public? TT see if you can find out for us. I am finding only general stuff. You can maybe tell us what realy happened.
I agree with you about Landon. I really used to like her but she plays damsel in distress all the time. She comes across as a perpetual martyr and appears meek and mild but she’s really quite nasty underneath.
They should have just made this a one show or maybe an hour and half special, just so it “looks” better than saying “yeah it sucks so its only an hour”
Particularly since this show ends this season with all agreeing that Shep is out of control, drinks too much, and doesn’t know what he wants out of life or how to get his act together.
Not exactly the promising guy who would be the hero of a new show about a charming , successful ,bachelor storming the country seeking his life’s love.
Certainly nothing I want to watch. Whatever the Bravo game plan to introduce this show, this season of SC has lost sight of it, for sure. Bravo should scuttle the show, if they can.
Sabrina, I agree with all your comments, Bravo will never scuttle anything that smacks of ratings points.
If Shep is supposed to be so smart…why doesn’t he understand his drinking and sleeping around makes him look like a fool?
Landon and Thomas look like daughter and father to me…it’s so weird
I totally agree. They should marry and he should treat her like the queen of his castle. Build her a home for them and their children. Kathryn only behaves badly when he treats her badly.
Landon also said that “it wasn’t 3 days’
I was waiting for Chelsea to say “considering you went on an over night trip with Thomas when he was with Kathryn, and emphatically stated that you don’t believe in a girl code, you bet your flirting ass your behavior towards Austin when he was on a DATE with me was inappropriate”
I agree with you Erica I forgot to mention Chelsea,. I like her. She has known Shep for 10 years. Now, he wants her? I thi k Andy rushed her or she would have gone there. Landon isn’t a friend to any female. Sad.
I like Chelsea too! I wish I could remember her on Survivor.
KD did not seem heavily medicated to me — or if she was, I certainly have to give it up to her for being far more articulated than I am when I have to take something to calm down. I could see her doing some deep breathing moves; she just seemed determined not to fly off the handle like she did at the last reunion. I thought she aquited herself very well.
The whole segment where Andy insisted on asking Thomas why he couldn’t find a woman in Charleston and Thomas, who won’t miss an opportunity to talk about his prowess, was the worst. I felt real empathy for Kathryn, having to sit and listen to him drone on and Andy’s blank look as to why it might screw with her head a little. I don’t even care if her sniffles were a ploy to draw attention; that was a callous moment for her to have to sit thru.
Does Andy have any redeeming qualities other than Wacha?
Oh, I couldn’t BELIEVE it when Shep started talking to Andy the way that he talks to Craig (a bit of a bully, talking over him)
Andy will put up with it from the ‘wives in a lot of waves… but Shep, you ain’t no HW, and certainly don’t bring the coins the way they do!
TT –
I have a theory —please let me know what you think .. TR was obviously pissed when he told KD to shut up. There was a preview clip when KD told Craig TR told her to have an abortion during the Snowden conversation that never made it to the final airing.
Do you think that’s why he was so angry but since the comment was edited out , his anger didn’t seem justified?
It wasn’t edited out that exact moment. Thomas was angry when it was shown as a promo for the show and probably sent his lawyers to Bravo. At least one parent cares about what the kids might hear in the future, unlike their so-called mom.
K Cooper Ray said work is in progress for him to come back next season. I thought KD looked medicated, and everyone out there is forgetting that TR went to jail for drugs and that might be the lowest charges that they could make sticks. TR did post on his IG about how all his cast mates believing that he would choose the abortion.
I haven’t seen it yet.
It looks boring.
If Katherine doesn’t like Jennifer that’s her right.
Austin is an idiot for going on this show and if I were his parents I’d be mortified. Can you believe he quit his job to stay in this party town?
I can’t believe there’s a spinoff about Shep seeking a mate. i cant see it succeeding .
But like a buddy told me it cost next to nothing for Bravo to make these reality shows and when they make it Bravo makes the big bucks ( not the stars of course, can you believe Katie STILL works at least 3 shifts a week at SUR?). This Shep spinoff seems like bad timing what with his drinking issues coming out and all.
Why did they bring Whitney on? Did they even talk to him?
That is funny, JustanotherMary! Because we always laugh at the truth! ???
I usually make a practice of waiting to watch until I have both hours in the can. Nothing I hate more than the cliff hanger. I needn’t have bothered, both were boring. These people are just like other Bravo shows with people getting too old for this “devil may care” life. When I was a young woman men actually became men at 20 or 21. The cute little boy act didn’t go over well in their 30’s. Shep is 37! Dear Lord in Heaven, time to grow up. Why would any woman be interested in this lazy wastrel?
One good thing came out of the reunion, I finally discovered why Chelsea looked so familiar to me. I knew I’d seen her somewhere, but couldn’t place it. Survivor, of course. I think she is the best looking of the Charlestonians. But, they really have no story, nothing interesting anyway. Katherine went after the bucks and got screwed in more ways than one. She fully expected to be married or at least supported by Thomas, and it backfired. That old man is lucky he has his two kids since his luck at finding a decent woman that would put up with his old bones is non-existent.
loved how just about everyone managed to call landon out on her act! time to find a new show! shep needs rehab/AA not a new show where he is womanizing across the country. wonder how his parents feel?? i’m sure they’re not pleased. his frat boy thing has really gone way too far – he does not look good and he’s very unhappy, unhealthy – hence always projecting onto craig. mayb kd wouldn’t b in the predictament she’s in today if he had married her (as promised) aftr the first baby. whats with jennifer’s baby daddy? does she ever disclose who it is? is she with him??
Kathryn and Thomas are toxic together, they absolutely never work. The only thing that would be different if Thomas had married her after Kensie would be that they’d be going through an ugly divorce right now as opposed to just an ugly custody battle.
They have physical chemistry and lust for each other, not real compatibility or mature love, at all.
I love Craig! Shep is constantly bullying him at every turn. I think he is a pretty good guy. Every time Shep says something to Craig I want to give him a dead leg 🙂
I’ll bet Whitney had more to say that was simply edited out. I felt that Cameran was properly put out with Landon. Her body language says a lot and she defended her husband’s beat up luggage due to Landon’s proper luggage comment. I’ve never understood spending $$$$ on luggage that gets beat up and tossed around. I think she’s over her.
Landon came out the worst on the show, followed by Shep, then Katherine. Landon was about as shallow and souless as it gets and drunk lech is not a good look on Shep. Seems like he can dish it, but not take it.
It was rather boring, kinda angry at myself for staying up to watch it lol
Sorry but Thomas has gotten lots of Negative feed back for not living in the same house a s his children….Thomas was showing Landon the house that the kids were not living in when she would come calling sorry aren’t the men suppose to go calling not the other way…Landon is a gold digger do not remember which cast member said it but 1 of them said Landon went to them wanting set up with rich men …she is A Fake ,she has to work for her dad cause the girl is broke and is getting too old to pick and choose her men… if she got fake boobs she just might catch 1 … she is down low and thinks she is way above …the yacht guys thought she would put out and she didn’t so they start rumors men do that I believe her on that matter just because I have had it happen to me…
landon’s apology to Katheryn is not real my opinion she just wants a call back for the next season if there will be 1 the reunion was very boring…
Katheryn looks gorgeous it is her right not to like jennifer esp. when jennifer went to court and spoke out against her, If Jennifer ever wanted to be friends again she should not have went to court and spoke against Katheryn…. Kat called jennifer a social climber and now she has Thomas so why the heck would she need her…
Craig seems like a very mellow,I like the guy, and Shep is a bully but he is needs to stop being a jjerk to Craig…
I can totally see Katheryn and Shep settling down together she is more his type.
Chelsey I knew I had seen her some where else it is funny she never mentioned it before lol.. Whitney produces this show so he had to make an appearance … Shep is just Shep funny Not..
Katheryn and Craig were the fun 1 to watch this season… I do not think Katheryn had a drug issue if it is only pot sorry…Thomas is 54 and his sperm are old and if he expected to have perfect children he need to check himself and his threats at Katheryn shut her up he is lucky she didn’t jump up and rush his ass with a punch to his mouth…
I love the recap on this show !!
If you are supeoned (ordering a person to testify in court) you can’t refuse, and to lie is called perjury wiith possible fines and/or jail time. You can only answer the questions asked.
You don’t have to show up, whether you’re subpoenaed or not. I’ve seen PLENTY of custody hearings with no shows who are on the witness list and have been been served. If you do show and are sworn in you have to tell the truth, but there is no consequence if you change your mind and opt out.
What do I do if I receive a Notice of Deposition in South Carolina?
False.
If you receive a Notice of Deposition in South Carolina for a case that you are not a party to, you still have to respond to it and attend the deposition. Specifically, if you are a South Carolina resident, then you may be compelled to give a deposition in any county in which you reside or in which you transact business in person.
https://www.charlestonlaw.net/receive-deposition-notice-charleston-trial-attorneys/
You don’t have to show in Court for the hearing, even if you’ve been deposed. I didn’t say anything about being deposed. My experience is in Family Court, custody and divorce and many, many times “friends” who are giving damaging testimony to one party don’t show to Court. It’s one thing to give a depo, it’s another to look your “friend” or ex-friend in the eye and talk about what a shitty parent they are. Many people opt out and don’t show. While the Court can impose some kind of sanctions, I’ve never once seen it done.
You can’t opt out if you’ve been subpoenaed, it’s not voluntary. It’s a court order requiring you to appear or present materials relevant to the case. You can plead the 5th and refuse to answer questions on the stand, but if you are subpoenaed and fail to comply, the judge can throw you in jail, fine you, etc. There are definitely consequences.
I think Thomas was living with the kids in the back section of the house, as he said, he just wanted the fancy, newly done front to be on camera as much as possible because he knew he was going to sell it. I bet you.
I agree, Shae. Thomas has a history of buying historical properties and restoring and selling them. He was also upset with Bravo for coming to the front house to tape a tour of the home and then not airing it.
Even if marijuana is KD addiction- a person in recovery is not supposed to drink either.
Any news on how Kathryn is doing with the custody arrangements and the kids?