By Guest Contributor Becky J.
Farrah
Farrah and her family (plus gross Simon) are still on vacation in Key West. Her mom’s fiance David is ignoring her, probably in an attempt to avoid a nasty confrontation about how her personality sucks. So, we know that’s coming.
Later, Simon, Farrah her mom and Sophia go to get mani-pedis. At Simon’s urging, the conversation takes a turn toward Deb’s wedding and Farrah’s relationship with David. Farrah says she thinks it’s sad that David hates her. This is an exact quote from Simon, who planted that idea in her crazy head hours before knowing it was like a timebomb. He must be on the production payroll. There’s really no other explanation. Farrah goes off on her mom, Simon pretends to defend Deb and David, but looks happier in this scene than he has all season. He must feel relevant. He’s smiling with all his teeth showing like a fucking maniacal killer.
Deb reaches the breaking point, because that’s how she rolls. The screams and cusses in the middle of the nail salon and says she wants to die. Farrah accuses her of throwing a fit. Sophia is sitting in the chair right next to her, listening to all of this. This is the most heartbreaking part. I hope Farrah watches this footage back in 10 years when she’s trying to figure out why Sophia doesn’t want a relationship with her.
Later, they go to ice cream. Deb is pouting and acting like she has no part in the conflict between David and Farrah. David decides to make dinner for the group. Ugh, this is getting old. David and Farrah fight during dinner, he tells her she needs therapy, she tells him he sucks as a doctor (he’s a psychologist) and he tells her to fuck off. It’s about time.
Maci
Maci is trying to reach out to Ryan to talk about the drug use allegations and he’s not responding. She has apparently been to an Alanon meeting or therapy since the last episode. Instead of leading with ultimatums about keeping Bentley from Ryan, she’s talking about how it’s a life or death situation and she can’t control Ryan, but she’s super scared. Good for her. This is a mess. She realizes that if she talks to Mackenzie it’s going to make her look like a shit-stirrer and she’s avoiding Jen and Larry since she bashed them at lunch with Mackenzie. I really think she needs get over herself and to talk to them.
Ryan is playing with remote control trucks at his parents’ house. Mackenzie is making phone calls and apparently she and Ryan are getting married—like today. She says this is because the lawyers advised her and Ryan that being legally married is better for the custody case for Bentley. When she tells Ryan they’re getting married in a few hours and they need to pick up their marriage license, he says okay. Then he asks if he needs to be there or maybe he can just do it over the phone. Then he leaves with a backpack, saying he needs a haircut.
Mackenzie goes to borrow/rent a wedding dress to wear. Ryan got his haircut and is dressed and looking good. They are on the way to the 6 pm wedding at 6:10. They get in the car and that’s when we realize things are fucked. Ryan got more than just a haircut, he got HIGH.
Like, so high on heroin or some other downer that he can’t keep his eyes open. He’s literally nodding off behind the wheel of his car on the freeway while Mack sits next to him in a wedding dress. It’s so sad. The dash cams capture the changing expressions on her face. She goes from just being pissed, like “this fucker just got high again and we’re on our way to get married” to “I might actually die right now in this car.” Ryan is just rubbing his nose and babbling incoherently like a fucking junkie.
She finally reaches over and turns off the dash cameras, but the mic picks her up asking him if he, “took Xanax again.” Jay-zus, this is an intense finale!
They arrive at the riverside site for the ceremony. It looks hot as hell. Ryan’s mom Jen is sobbing because this is not how she envisioned the wedding. Ryan comforts her, asks her for a kiss, then a “better kiss” because the first one wasn’t good enough. Um, BARF. Ryan wears sunglasses during the entire ceremony cuz he’s high AF. I hate this so much! Jen does too and she can’t get a hold on herself.
Catelynn
Tyler and Cate drop Nova at daycare/preschool and then go home to begin a busy day of sitting at their dining room table. They are waiting to hear if their offer was accepted on the new octagon farmhouse. Catelynn decides to go to the stable where she rode a horse one time and volunteer. She wants to buy a horse, but doesn’t know anything about them. I guess it’s nice that she’s trying to learn, unlike Farrah. Where is Farrah’s mini horse these days?
The offer on the farmhouse was accepted. They talk about how this is their dream house. Moving is the WORST, why do they keep choosing to do it? It seems like they are trying to distract themselves from real life.
Amber
Gary is considering letting Leah stay with Amber on school nights. Amber is in LA for the MTV TV & Movie Awards and Matt is with her, but he’s not appearing on the red carpet with her since she’s super pissed about the latest cheating scandal. Amber is still saying that she and Matt are planning on doing counseling, but that obviously never happened.
While still in LA, yet another woman contacts Amber with cheating text messages from Matt. He is a disgusting, lying slimebag. He wants to take a lie-detector test to prove his innocence, but Amber is sounding done. She’s crying to the producer about how their finances and lives are so entangled it will be difficult to make a clean break. That was such a stupid mistake. Why would she cut some nobody drug addict she met on Twitter in on her MTV dough? Gawd, she’s too dumb to LIVE.
On the day of the polygraph, Matt and Amber fight some more. Amber meets with the polygraph administrator and he asks why she wants to do this. She explains the background of the relationship and the cheating allegations. The guy’s face says it all. I want to scream and throw shit at the TV. When it’s time for the results, there is a guy named Raul there for security at the request of production. I’m laughing at this because the room is like 10’ by 10’ so if somebody goes nuts, basically everybody’s getting hit regardless.
The results are in. Of course they make no sense because this is the worst storyline ever. Matt passed the polygraph in regards to cheating and having “sexual communication” with other women, but failed the question about making sexual advances toward a specific person (whose name is bleeped, but I think it’s this Tiffany chick). So how do you make sexual advances without having sexual communication?
Amber goes nuts. Raul has to step in and Amber is ushered from the room. Matt is confused, as usual. He asks the administrator what the result means. Amber has a meltdown in the elevator and outside on the sidewalk, crying about how is she gonna explain this to Leah. What? Leah has her dad, who has done his best to protect her. Leah has a stable home and two parents who love her. This should be the least of her worries. Leah will be fine (well, not really) but Amber seriously needs to worry about herself and her coins.
This was probably the most insane Teen Mom finale I’ve ever seen. I can’t wait for to see what Dr. Drew says about all of this. Next week, the finale check-in special!
So the whole Ryan in the car part drives me insane.
1. Make him pull over you dumb cunt.
2. Don’t worry about the dash cams now because there’s already enough recorded to screw over any new custody decision.
3. Make him pull over you dumb cunt.
4. Don’t throw Xanax under the bus. I believe we all know there’s a bigger issue than Xanax. Even if it was Xanax that day he obviously abuses them and should not be trusted at that point to have his son in a car with him for a while.
5 MAKE HIM PULL OVER YOU DUMB CUNT
Thank you and I was terrified watching this!
As someone who takes Xanax as perscribed, I can’t see this a Xanax. I am just fine when I take mine JUST NOT HYPERVENTILATING IN A PAPERBAG.
No way that was xanax! My mom takes it sometimes and it doesn’t do this!
I have seen xanax do this, if you take more than your dose. However, it looks like he is mixing something with it, like a pain pill.
I was also yelling, why would you ever let him get behind the wheel?! Do you have a death wish?!
I’m thinking either xanax with SOMA, or heroin. To have that affect, that is either a first timer(doubt)well obviously not, or someone who has built up a resistance to pills so went to heroin. Just my INTERVENTION show knowledge, or life experience and loss of many people sadly. Mackenzie your such a dumb bitch. A exact replica of how Jen deals with Ryan.
i. am. dying. laughing. #DumbCunt !
I was screaming at the TV! Get the fuck off the road! I watched the scene a few times and I think its possible he was taking Xanax but in COMBO with Oxy or heroin (allegedly). The nodding off, itching the nose. It was an incredibly disturbing scene.
What was most evident was Mackenzie’s interest in appearances and what the camera was recording rather than her safety and that of other drivers. Everything that Maci said about that family’s denial was evident in that scene.
Something happened when Larry and Ryan got in that fight, that shifted things. I’m wondering if Ryan began stealing from them? (They kicked him out). Oxy’s are like $80 a pill, so with/without a job, never enough, so heroin it is.Maybe he got caught with checks or something to make them admit he’s not able to ignore. Jen doesn’t want to lose her baby and will enable rather than have him on the streets. Seen this story over and over on Dr Phil.
Lawd,, the comments are screwed up on my phone, but I TOTALLY agree. The Xanax is not gonna make your nose itch like that, but an opiate (pain pill or heroin) will. Every. Single. Time. This scene was scary as hell to watch. It reminded me of another fucked up situation playing out for all to see, and that is Ryan Bueĺl from the show Paranormal State. He just got out of rehab but before he went he was on FB live quite a bit looking close to death he was so high. Its a sad situation when you watch someone spiral like this.
That scene with Ryan was sad,scary and sick. McKenzie needed to run the other way. Everyone seen this for awhile. She had to know,his parents had to know.
I think this is one of the best reality shows on TV. There are just so many layers of craziness to it. This finale is the cherry on the lunatic sundae. The show should change its name to The Biggest Loser bc every week it’s a tight race for that title: is it Amber for supporting that sleazy dirt bag? Catelynn for putting her daughter in daycare so she can stare at the wall all day? Farrah, well, for just being Farrah? No, this week we have a dark horse winner, Mackenzie. The only thing worse than driving with a man in that condition is marrying one. Doesn’t every girl dream of her wedding video being preceded by the words ‘Caution: this may be disturbing to some viewers’?
I was nervous when I saw that warning, I thought Oh shit what’s about to happen?? Mackenzie is a stupid bitch who needs to worry about her own son instead of trying to fix Ryan. I wonder what the real reason for the super fast wedding. I hope Ryan takes his sobriety serious. Amber acts all tough and badass but she’s a wimp who needs to be a grown up and take care of her own shit. Hold your own license and pay your own bills if you’re this entrepreneur. And I dont get the whole going to daycare at 2 years old. Just read some books with your kids and take the time to teach ABC’s yourself. Thank you for these teen mom recaps!!
It’s not really daycare anymore. That’s outdated. Where I live ALL the kids go start pre-school at
2 1/2. If you can’t afford it, there’s a community pre-school in town that works on a sliding scale. It’s a few hours a day (usually 2 1/2 hrs) and it’s great for the kids and gives mom’s a much needed break. It was wonderful for my son who is an only child.
Yeah I can see how moms who can afford to pay for that would like it. I was fortunate to be raised with a bunch of cousins and so have my kids before starting preschool at 4. Just saying 2 1/2 seems young for daycare when they really don’t do anything all day but film them doing nothing.
Good parenting is always a better option than daycare. Then, if you must, pre K at 4 however, if you teach the kid colors counting and letters then just wait for kindergarten.
Thank you for saying this! I have taught every one of my kids their colors, abc’s, numbers 1-20, and how to write their names. I have gotten so much crap for not “socializing” them and what not. It’s nice to hear I wasn’t being crazy. We couldn’t afford child care but I also had no problem helping/ encouraging their education. There are so many free and useful tools available to help.
Some states offer pre school starting at 3
at a public Elementary school for about $300 a month 4 days 3 hours a day. It is fantastic. There is not a financial point
So middle class can afford it, lower get free and upper a choice. Kids are picked by a lottery system..they say. Pot $$
I was told recently that 3 yr pre k is like our kindergarten. Oy.I have one “gifted & talented” the other speech issue so its free
Hey don’t knock it… Some people take videos of footage of how they met ..how they grew together… And what led them to the marriage running in the background… And other people have PSA warnings… As a precursor to the wedding video??
Daycare is the best place for kids like Nova and Kaiser. There they will learn and be fed, at least.
definitely heroin!! He literally looked close to overdose! crazy
How about the full box of stuff balancing on the edge of novas crib when they put her down for a nap? Maybe at least part of one of those three days the kid is in daycare one of them could put a little energy towards cleaning up or hiring a maid.
Thought of this as well… she could easily tip that box onto herself! They just seem ignorant. Damn I have been watching this show religiously for 8 years this had to be the most intense and sad episode yet, which is saying something considering the show starts with a sad plot about young girls getting pregnant out of wedlock 🙁 genuinely wonder if their lives would be worse or bettter without the MTV $
YES! I thought, how about MWF you pick the poop up off of your kids floor and stop throwing excess cardboard boxes into the crib?
I feel dumb for thinking they would be overly protective parents. No wonder the adoptive parents don’t want anything to do with them. Production has always made the adoptive parents look bad. My kid would have nothing to do with reality TV or these two. LET’S BUY PIGS!
They are the pigs.
Caitlyn has got to be messed up knowing every time she looks at Nova, her sister Carly is not there, and probably due to her and Tyler, they will not be seeing her. I would suffer every minute of every day. Had I given up a child for adoption (personally just couldn’t), I would never be able to have another child with the same father.
I believe Carly is being protected from them and MTV. (which I would do as well).
I was equally as shocked and disgusted at the poop on the floor and the large box next to Nova’s crib. I am an adoptive parent of 2 children, which are now adults with their own children–my beloved grand babies!! Our family has been very active in supporting/helping families of adoption from all 3 sides of the adoption triad, for over 35 years. I have watched Teen Mom since it’s inception and was always especially drawn to Caitlyn & Tyler, for obvious reasons. It tears me up inside to say this, because we KNOW how much the desire for a child can consume a couple. It will consume you to the point of total obsession and you will do or agree to almost ANYTHING to become parents to a newborn child. However Theresa and Brandon have NOT upheld their part of the adoption plan. This adoption was ALWAYS based on being a very open adoption and the fact that it was being recorded for tv with a very, very likely chance of a show renewal was known by T&B from day 1. Caitlyn & Tyler only agreed to Theresa and Brandon because they were open to a open adoption and the event being recorded for tv. Caitlyn & Tyler (at the age of 16-17) had NO ONE advising them or going over all the realities of the adoption contract. Dawn(the adoption counselor) was representing the adoption agency and ultimately Theresa & Brandon. Everyone involved, including Theresa & Brandon, knew the home situations that both C&T had grown up in, so they knew any guidance was NOT forthcoming from either dysfunctional family. I hate to say it, because it casts such a bad light on adoption–something my family believes in and lives everyday and are thankful for everyday, But Caitlyn and Tyler were definitely mislead and taken advantage of when they set up their daughter’s adoption plan. Who are the more: capable, financially secure, mature, educated, experienced, etc., etc.,parents, is not the point. The fact that Caitlyn and Tyler have exhibited less then stellar parenting with Nova, is also not the point. They were mislead and taken advantage of due to their: age, lack of knowledge and lack of family support. If adoptive parents agree to an open adoption—-then honor that commitment. If you do not, it will most definitely come back to bite you some time in the future.
Becky J, as always, thank you for the great recap. I’m so incredibly furious with Debra,Farrah,David, Mackenzie, Maci and MTV. What the hell were they allowing and basically condoning? Sophia listening to a death wish (and as kids do, find reason to blame themselves.)Allowing and not ending putting many lives in danger, well aware as to Ryan’s condition. Just awful, and disgusting and shameful.Among a few other things which I am too upset to mention. I’m in shock what I just witnessed purposefully put on, for our viewing pleasure. My god, what has my entertainment become? Maybe I should be ashamed for watching, I’m not sure.
P.s. These kids are not being protected. Not by MTV, or the adults who should be the ones accountable. Including Maci, her family, Mackenzie (who is exposing her son to this), Mackenzie’s family, Ryan’s family, Farrah’s father, grandparents, Sophia’s father side of family. At the end of the episode, they showed Christina. (She is the only one I trust, was my thought).
I am saddened by Ryan’s addiction, by Macs desperation, by Macis valid fear, by farrahs total inability to live in this world and how it will affect Sophia, by Debras desire to be happy and how farrah won’t allow that to happen. By ambers unfortunate situation (I’ve been there and it’s tough to escape). Tyler and Caitlyn appear happy and Nova is a cutie pie.
Actually, while Catelynn and Tyler are closer to being sane, if the daycare is enriching Nova’s life for a few hours, I say drop her off!! As adults, Carly and Nova will undoubtedly show the benefits of an environment rich in stimulation.. Curses on a whole raft of lawyers who enable for money in ways that allow children to be used as pawns in power struggle custody cases and producers eager for footage of driving while impaired by drugs, alcohol, anxiety, total meltdowns,Twitter battles, shouted phone calls, in and now on this show we have to hear the voices breaking the traditional third wall, but on this show, the minders, eggers on, would be friends and would be therapists are on camera and a big part of the drama. Dr Drew often tries to chide them to act differently, or get along with someone crazy.. But too often he is a major enabler. Realize he was involved in early Big Brother seasons interviewing booted HG, and he was at Robert Kardashian’s house to evaluate O.J., but oops, there was the Bronco slow speed chase. And all the rehab patients he was willing to get involved in his shows.. And the Teen Mom franchise.
I agree. Dr. Drew is a waste of time. He is never ever brutally honest with them, esp Farrah. He coddles and refuses to offer tough love and it’s affecting those children. I want him to buy a pair of balls and tell them what it is!
Mackenzie is an idiot. Why would you marry someone in that state after they put your life at risk???? I was so disturbed watching that car ride I wanted to slap both of them.
I was so shaken by that car ride. Mackenzie must simply be a media whore of the FIRST DEGREE. She put her life endanger and did nothing to stop the car that could have killed people, AND THEN SHE MARRIED HIM. HOW DOES SOMEONE GET AS FUCKED UP AS MACKENZIE AND NOT GET HELP.
She could have died. He was literally passed out while driving. WHO MARRIES THAT?
And his parent had to notice and just sauntered off into the sunset.
I as deeply shaken by this episode.and wish I a had not watched past the disclaimer,
In many states if someone gets married under the influence it can be annulled. Not that anyone should be doing anything under the influence. My mother was a substance abuse counselor and I am sure the Ryan has been taking more than Xanax. I also am wondering where this sudden urge of paternalism is coming from? Is it Mackenzie or his family perhaps? I have never seen Ryan as the type to try to scale walls to be with Bentley more. Also, rumors about Ryan and drug use have been around for years. It makes me wonder has his usage just become to prevalent to brush off? Also if Mackenzie has full knowledge of his habits then she is making some awful mistakes . She is enabling him, exposing herself and her child to a world of heartbreak. Ryan needs help, and the best help she could have given him would be to pull over take the wheel and drive him to a facility. He is lackidasically putting others in harm’s way. A person who does that does not love or value themself enough to be making any big decisions.
Mackenzie looks so thirsty I was embarrassed for her. She was so determained to get married in that low rent ceremony to a guy who was so high he had to see spaceships. Where was her kid and her family and friends? Just pathetic. Both of them
Since Ryan went into rehab the Monday after the wedding, all I could think of was did he need to be on her health insurance or something?!?! That was the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen! She was more then thirsty she was down right the fucking well is dry! She thought his custody order would look better if they were married?!? She didn’t think his stint in rehab was going to be an issue? What about her child who supposedly lives with them? How could she ride with him? Neither had a seatbelt on, he was so out of it. She’s a dumbass and I felt so bad for Ryan’s mother. Poor Bentley, and when his mom asked about what he was going to tell Bentley and Ryan said, I don’t think we’re going to tell him..seriously? Thank goodness for Taylor, he may drink a lot but he loves that kid and all the kids are taken care of. Bentley was his best man and Bentley’s dad didn’t even tell him he got married? So sad.
Go back and re-read your second to last sentence. Then, pull your head out of your ass.
I am thinking Bentley was Taylor’s best man.
You might want to check out the view and see if your head is up your ass. The sentence is perfectly correct, it’s your reading comprehension that is the problem.
Nothing wrong with my head. “Taylor may drink a lot (read: alcoholic), but…… all the kids are taken care of”. Sort of like the we smack her around a little, but that’s how she learns -mindset. Anyone whose heart doesn’t bleed for ALL of these kids has a head in the ass problem. Paying the bills and food on a plate does not mean any of these kids are “being taken care of”.
Initially I was concerned when Maci started talking about his addiction on camera, it seemed out of the blue and we have seen so little of Ryan this season. But after watching this episode she has every right to be concerned about Bentleys safety. They put so many innocent people in jeopardy on the road tonight…..and Mackenzie didnt even have the sense to put on her seatbelt or make him pull over so she could drive. Insane. Jen wasnt crying about Bentley not being at the wedding, she was crying because she knew Ryan was high as kite and it was captured by MTV. Larry wasnt upset today…..this also explains why Larry told him, he wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire.
Poor Sophia surrounded by narcissitic, dysfunctional adults 24/7. She doesnt stand a chance at a normal life.
Cate/Tyler – take your kid to daycare, I dont care. Every parent needs a break, especially if you have post partum and mental health issues, daycare is a better option than Butch. But their lives, and storylines seem to be lackluster. Buying the house seemed weird after just buying and remodeling the house they currently live in. Was that a real estate flip?
Matt – is and always will be a scammer. He manipulates Amber and uses her Mental Illness to take advantage of her.
Sophia looks very depressed. I can’t stand watching her. She is just a little girl. These people are SO fucked up. This show made me SO angry.
As someone with anxiety issues and who MISSED THE PRIOR EPISODE BECAUSE SPECTRUM ON DEMAND SUCKS, I was terrified that they were both going to die. I knew a a website owner that I would have known, but this is not the bread and butter of this site. I truly watched to see if they would die. Mckenzenie has mental issues she needs to deal with. Who takes a death defying ride to marry a man who puts their life in jeopardy????? Who needs a man this badly? What is her major malfunction?
Sorry still angry. SHE WAS HURTLING DOWN THE ROAD WITH A PASSED OUT DRIVER!
AND SHE MARRIED HIM!!!!!
I do not understand this desperation to be married. I literally will have nightmares about this.
I feel bad for Ryan I hope he gets the help he needs. But you hit the nail on the head about “desperation to get married” who would watch him fall asleep behind the wheel to your wedding? Then watch your future MIL cry over the wedding and STILL marry him. WTF ! Unless Ryan is playing head games and saying he’ll only go to rehab is she married him, but still !
That episode was so freaking disturbing. I really truly hope Ryan gets help. I don’t know what he was on but it was not xanax. Why the fuck was that stupid cunt forcing a wedding that day??? This was SO bizarre! Maci needs to keep Bently away from the entire family. Omg this is so sad. Ryan, Janelle and Leah have been on MTV now fucked up out of thier minds. This show needs to stop. These people need help. What the fuck is wrong with Makenzie? Why was there a wedding? The whole reason related to custody was bull shit.
I hope Amber truly dumped Matt. She needs some serious therapy not tv therapy. Omg life is fucking hard. Marriage and kids is really fucking hard but the decisions these teen mom adults are making are just not healthy. This show went from entertainment to very sad. It feels very dark for several reasons. None of these people are ready to be adults. They ALL have major issues!
I do not envy the position Maci is in. I wish her the best. She and Ryan have a great kid. I hope this works out. Ryan is extremely dangerous.
I think this was one of the most intense Teen Mom episodes I have ever watched.
I don’t know what Farrah’s parents did to her but it doesn’t give you license to be an absolutely unbearable c$&t.
I hope that the young girls who watch this show realize what you think is cute at 16 might grow up to be an asshole drug addict.
Jen and Larry encouraging this marriage makes me understand why Ryan has always appeared to be a mess. I feel bad for Maci at this point for having to deal with this pack of fools. It is horrible to deal with parents who refuse to believe that their precious is a drug addict.
Amber needs to give up on the onesies. It is a stupid look for a grownup and she can’t pull it off. Matt is gross and anyone who sleeps with him obviously hates their vagina.
Nova is my favorite kid. She is so cute, she makes me laugh.
I have been waiting for this recap to go up and to talk to you all! Because apparently no one I see in person admits they still watch this.
That was literally the most insane episode I have ever seen. Ryan takes the cake… and I am still baffled over what happened and the fact that Mackenzie continued with the wedding, knowing full well he was high as a fucking kite. (Sorry if I am breaking long posting rule TT– there’s just so much happening, I need ya’ll to help me process!)
— The box on Nova’s crib gave me pause too, but then I thought, I have a three year old, they do weird crap. I still probably wouldn’t let him have it on his bed, and definitely not on the baby’s bed… but maybe it’s like her box to catch monsters or something.
— In general, I’m not bothered by Cait and Ty at all, I think they are trying to capitalize on their fame while they still have it, which is smart, and I think people are highly underestimating their intelligence in terms of their real estate purchases. They are buying houses, fixing them up and then renting them, that’s one of the smartest investments you can make. Cait even posted something on instagram concurring with a viewer’s comment that they were doing so, and if you go back to an episode Amber alludes to Gary doing the same, and apparently Amber and Matt were doing the same for a while too. They all get the same offers and ideas and suggestions from “financial advisors”/MTV”. The poop thing was odd, but in general I think their house always looks fairly clean, and Nova has been potty training- hence the no pants. Again, if cameras were in my home, I’d do it different, and I DID do it different, but there are books that suggest you leave your kid with no pants on for 6 months while potty training.
–Farrah is is clearly a narcissist, while her Mom is borderline… and Simon doesn’t help things at all. Her Mom’s fiancee is whack as fuck… and I’d be super creeped out by him too. I just really feel for Sophia who is constantly exposed to this, and will no doubt have severe issues.
–Amber has been hoodwinked, but the latest aftershow made it seem like she finally had a clear head and is in the right space, I think it was filmed well after the finale filming. There have also been pics posted of Leah tagging her, her brother and Gary which to me seems promising. You know the world has gone crazy when GARY is the most normal and has his shit all the way together. He and Christina have done a wonderful job, and I was dying laughing at him doing the lawnmower at the end. Much needed comic relief!
–I honest to God feel bad for Maci. The reunion special shows her and Mackenzie arguing. I was not sure what to think about her calling Ryan out either, but then that driving scene… she has every right to never allow Bentley in the car with Ryan ever again. Ryan got out of rehab and immediately publicly posted a meme of MLK saying something along the lines of “I have a dream my psycho ass baby mama will shut the fuck up.” Which, he just lost even more points with me (if that’s even possible) for disparaging the saintly Dr. King.
–Ryan: They really needed that warning. I was still not prepared for the driving scene. That shook me to my core… and I CANNOT fathom why on EARTH Mack would still go through with the wedding, let alone continue to be in the car with him KNOWING she has a young son at home. This was INSANE. The ONLY thing I can think of, is that the wedding was actually for insurance like mentioned above, and they all knew he was going to go to rehab the next day and it was part of getting him to go. Like, she pulled a” I will divorce you” line. Also, completely agree Jen was crying because of him being fucked up, and I think because she knew rehab was the next day. Also agree about Larry saying “I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire..” because of the drugs.
He was NOT on Xanax. Someone posted a pic of Jenelle and Kiefer, and then a pic of Ryan next to it, and it said: “Look familiar?” Yes, yes it does. It has to be heroin.
Here’s the real question though: Tamara, you might have better legal knowledge… WHY THE FUCK IS HE NOT BEING CHARGED WITH Driving Under the Influence???? And HOW THE FUCK is MTV not LIABLE for letting him drive?!?!?!? Like, how in GOD’S NAME do they get away with this?!?! He could have killed himself, Mackenzie and INNOCENT lives. I do not understand. And Dr Drew is associated with something like this??? Not a good look. This was fucked.
this is a really good point. Didn’t Amber go to prison for an assault that occurred on camera and was televised? Also, Mackenzie should be charged for allowing someone to DUI. In my state I think that is a moving violation.
Yes! All of this!!!
I read an interview with a producer, it was specifically about the driving scene with Ryan. The cars are outfitted with, “Go-Pro’s”. MTV producers aren’t privy to footage as it occurs. They don’t see the footage until they download the video from the, “Go-Pro”. Occasionally people in the car are miked and then they can hear conversations in real time but mostly they don’t know about what’s going until after the fact. The, “Mom’s” are supposed to notify producers if any important conversations occur while they’re in the car.
The driving scene was disturbing and scary. Pretty much the 1st thing that any normal person in Mackenzie’s position would do once they have survived the near death experience, is RUN and don’t look back.She immediately married the guy who almost just killed her. What drugs is she on?
Her attempts to normalize the situation at 1st I thought she was afraid to spook him and that she was afraid. But then when she TURNED OFF THE DASHCAM. Just WTF? She was more concerned about the cameras and her image then her fucking life?
Exactly!!!
This episode freaked me out. I was a little dismissive of Maci’s innuendos until last night. Hope he sees the footage and gets help. As for Amber she needs to get it together he has control of everything. He is going to take everything from her. She talks so much about how strong and independent she is, i wish she would take a look at her self worth. she wants to keep talking about investing 3 years with this guy and really the red flags have been there the whole time. There will never be a happy ever after with him.
I’m twice divorced, both of the men were/are addicts, 1st recovering, 2nd fully active addict and I had to overcome an addiction myself, so I get the hard part of standing firm when you care/love someone who is an addict. Also my oldest son is a recovering addict, so seeing it in your child is the hardest to come to terms with. All that said, what the heck is wrong with Mack? Care enough about yourself and/or your own child to draw the line and walk away if need be! As far as Amber goes, my hard rule is absolutely no mixing of finances in any relationship! It’s a dumbass person who doesn’t understand you gotta take care of you and yours above all else!
Fentenyl or heroin. Living in the overdose capital of the country, I see it all the time. What I DON’T understand is why they were marrying THAT DAY. Does Mac have health insurance and they needed to get him into treatment right away? Was there an arrest warrant out or something? There was totally something up because Jen was a crying sobbing mess and not in a good “momma’s boy is getting married” kind of tears. She was torn apart and she and Larry weren’t even sitting together. What was going on?????
Sorry at this point McKenzie is an idiot wrapped in a Moron shell… They didn’t even have seatbelts on… I just could not believe that scene… I knew it was going to get worse when they ran that PSA before the scene… Why are Tyler and his wife buying all these homes …they didn’t they just buy this home… And then they own the home that butchis in… It’s weird…Amber… There are no words… No no no words… Idiot award goes to her
Amber and Matt are now on Marriage Boot Camp. So, you can’t tell her anything. She will be broke and making that porn any day now. Jen was crying during the wedding from sheer embarrassment, as she should. She and Larry have been enablers to Ryan for years. There he stands, twenty-nine years old, in all of his drug addled glory, marrying a money grubber. It would mak any mama squall her eyeballs out. MacKenzie will get hers next week at the reunion. Maci’s quote from the reunion “You’re so full of shit, you’re eyes have turned brown.”
Ryan is 29? What. the. fuck. Wow. Has he ever even had a job?
Nodding off behind the wheel. Jesus.
I just watched this and it’s so completely disturbing. Besides him being under the influence, neither of them are wearing seatbelts. And not to be crass, but I don’t care if they get an accident and hurt themselves, but I do care about the innocent people they would hit. This is utterly disgusting and disturbing.
I thought that the “bleeped” name might be Farrah’s. Makes more sense of why Amber would go so nuts over it.
Omg that gutter puddle Kailyn giving Amber relationship advice! Run, Girl!
So rushing to get married on paper was the priority? Mac is an enabler in every disgusting sense of the word…it was sickening to watch her interaction with Ryan. Dude was high before he left for a haircut and she knew it. I wldnt trust Bentley around either of them…and dsnt she have a kid too?!
Poor Catelynn & whatshisname…yep they are trying so hard to find themselves and a purpose. I want them to further their education instead of spending monwy left n right, maybe volunteer or get a real job…do something. All these random dreams of designing clothes and non-profits and horses and farms and chickens, they’re so ADD with it all…wondering what’s really goin on.
Sophia is going to be a real mess in about 10yrs. The things she has witnessed and heard..she’s just numb to it now, she’ll just sit there and daze off into the sunset while her Grandma yells she wants to die. These are the grown ups that are sposed to protect her and make her feel safe, loved. That child’s future is frightening.
As for Amber – no words. Cuz she’ll take him back. She was convincing herself to do it when she had the results, which she really didn’t need..she knew the truth already….Matt’s eagerness to take a lie detector was a clue he knew how to pass it…duh! He disgusts me and Amber has known for yrs the type of man he is..all women know. It’s when we convince ourselves to believe differently….we will manipulate ourselves into living a lie.
Sooooo many things about this.
Cancel your rushed wedding, dont worry about saving face – instead worry about saving your life (and that of innocent fkn people in cars around you!!!!!!!). Made me so cranky – not even worried about them and their stupid choices, but the innocent ones who would be affected if something bad happened.
Amber and Matt….girrrrrl run! Why is he still on the scene?! And why does he have access to your cash. You’re 27, get out of there, you are just at the beginning of your life – dont waste it on him. Spend sometime by yourself first, you aren’t as sorted as you think you are.
Catelynn and Tyler are becoming intolerable, I am so frustrated by them. They used to seem to have so much drive, and if I hear Tyler say one more time that he’ll “do something creative” I might scream – wtf does that even mean?! Go stack shelves or something, just earn some damn money.
Cate looked so much like her mother when she was driving. Ive never seen the resemblance before.
I can understand Brandon and Theresa choosing to distance themselves from that life.
Farrah…wow, she says she needs therapy because her parents screwed her up. What does she think is happening to Sophia? All these adults and their dramas are sinking deep into that little girl’s heart & soul – she will be more screwed up than the rest of them. She should be with Brandon and Theresa too!
Out of all of this, Gary is looking like a solid parental figure in comparison.
Gawd I just saw how much I wrote! Sorry for the essay, that episode gave me so many feelings.