I’m excited about this episode but it is way too late for me to be recapping so this will go out some time tomorrow. My screen is paused on Andy Cohen in his opening. Does he have no one to help him dress himself? EVERY.SINGLE.FUCKING.NIGHT. This dude’s tie competes with his wonky eye for the “Who’s The Wonkiest?” contest. Andy’s is ALWAYS off center to the right. Every single fucking show. He’s also had some sort of a barber mishap.
Clearly, Andy is already trashed. This is good. He will let his inner misogyny out. Not that I want him to do it to Kathryn, but I love when he exposes his real self. I still cling to hope, six years later y’all will stop watching this misogynistic channel.
Oh my. Kathryn has cut and dyed her hair. Her hair was gorgeous and now it is… not. She is also in a long sleeve green sequined minidress that Andy makes her stand up to show off. This is already not starting well. Then Andy makes her say where she got it. She says, “H & M, thirty dollars.” Oh fuck you already Andy Cohen. She’s trashed and looks like a two dollar hooker and you are exploiting her at the one minute mark.
After a long nauseating montage of Travis and Landon, Kathryn says all of that is funny to her. Andy wants us to know that there is a court order that forbids her from talking about Thomas or the custody agreement. So really this show will be pointless other than to point out how out of it she appears to be.
85% of the audience thinks Landon was wrong for going on a Valentines trip with Thomas. Frankly, I just think it is odd that she has no one to date on Valentines day other than Kathryn’s left overs.
65% of the audience say she and Thomas should never get back together. Kathryn says she loves that response.
90% thinks that Landon’s apology was fake. Kathryn says that makes her feel vindicated.
Andy asks Willie a ton of hot topics questions and one is about the hot felon whose mugshot landed him a modeling gig. Andy says he loves a hot criminal. Apollo could have told us that. Allegedly.
Kathryn is asked what she was thinking by ordering a margarita on camera. She claims she ended up not drinking the drink at all. Um, PUHLEASE. What about the drinks at Aqua. Does she think we didn’t see her drunk at the restaurant and hungover the next morning? Or that we didn’t see video and comments from the people at Aqua? She is like Phaedra believing her own lies. She has to have seen the episode. And now she is saying that she was just playing the group a bit and never drank a drop. Oh please. Read this link. I was way kinder to Kathryn then than I would be now. I heard SO MUCH about that trip. Allegedly.
After the break, Andy has yanked his tie even harder to the right. IT DRIVES ME INSANE.
Once AGAIN Andy makes allegations that Craig is gay. Even if he is gay, this makes Andy scum. Then he plays a scene from next week where Shep is an asshole and Craig retaliates. How in the hell is that Craig hitting on Shep? I get he is trying to work everyone up for the reunion filming tomorrow, but why be the dick instead of the moderator? Oh yeah, I forgot, it’s all about Andrew.
Kate Chastain is drunk again tonight and tweets that Kathryn looks amazing. And well she does, just not in a good way. Someone asks Kathryn, Shep or Austen? She says Shep.
I can’t with the uniformed callers who wonder if Naomie and Craig stay together. Yes, yes they do and the fights are mostly bullshit, The “counseling” is complete bullshit.
A caller asks if Kathryn would get along with Landon if there were no men in the picture. She says she doesn’t know if she would get along, but she’s “not interested in a friendship per se.”
Kathryn says she is not modeling.
There was a weird game all about Andy. Go figure.
Willie says Kathryn looks like Emma Stone. Kathryn says she’s gotten that before. HEAVY SIGH.
A caller asks Kathryn if she regrets how her conversation with Jennifer went during their first scene after she had given birth to a child that she knew had a high probability of dying. Kathryn was like, nah.
Andy’s MAZEL was the guy who was sent home on The Bachelor last night who was a frequent low rent guest on Andy’s show. I haven’t watched yet, and thanks for spoiling us Andrew. However, good for that guy who went from being treated like a whore by you in one of your ratchet dick dangling games with an audience of MAYBE 400,000 people if you are lucky, to a show with a big audience! Maybe he will get better gigs.
His Jackhole went to another bachelor he felt “stole Tom D’Agostino’s grab them by the neck move. It was nothing like that and he was just being the wonky eyed cunt he is.
Why so much Andy Cohen hate? I feel like most of the stuff on his show is in good fun. Everyone on the show gets exposure that they’ve been already seeking.
Are you new? Do you watch AC?
As someone who is not “new’, the show was fun, Kathryn looked great, was sober and TT has her blinders on. Just waiting for the next interesting update on Kenya Moore.
Andy disturbs me also. I understand TT’s animosity totally. He is a misogynist who pretends otherwise.
Yup??? not every bitch wants to be paraded around like a Westminster dog
I agree. The Andy Cohen stuff was kinda intense. The show is all in fun. Lighten up. It’s not meant to be taken that seriously.
Gretchen, I agree with you. I don’t see where Andy is forcing grown women (or men) to do anything they don’t want to do.
I cringed when Andy told Kathryn to stand up to model her dress, ugh! He never would’ve tried that with Bethenny, LOL! I wish Kathryn hadn’t cut her gorgeous hair & made it a weird color, but thought she looked great in the dress. Thanks for the recap, especially since it pains you to watch Andy!
That is not a good look for Kathryn. At all. I wish she’d quit the shit before I hate everybody on this channel.
Gretchen, you might look at some recent posts for, um, enlightenment.
Kathryn’s hair reminds me of when Lindsay Logan went blond. They both messed up their gorgeous red color. I always wondered if all that hair was indeed Kathryn’s. Now I think she might have had a weave or pieces in it. Willie Geist is a snore fest as were the bartenders who can’t legally drink yet. Milk for everyone, gesh. I could not tell if Kathryn was high or wasted, she just seemed pretty subdued to me. She should have been sorry for her treatment of Jennifer’s baby. How sad that in retrospect , she could not see how awful she was.
I did regret that Kathryn cut her beautiful long red hair. Then again, I think it was CoCo Chanel who said that when a woman cuts her hair she is about to change her life. Maybe Kathryn felt that she had not been treated so well with her long hair. That said, she still looked gorgeous, and I kind of admire her for saying the dress cost $30. Shout out to the rest of us non one-percenters. All in all, I thought Andy was fairly nice to Kathryn, saying she could still model, and all the polls were pro-Kathryn. And I am no Andy fan, and maybe I am just dim (I am sometimes) — but it seemed that Andy liked Kathryn? Maybe I am wrong.. well at least he did not shade her like he does Kenya. I wonder if Kathryn might take acting lessons. There is something so Katharine Cornell about her — she even looks like her in profile. She also reminds me of Tallulah Bankhead. I could see Kathryn on stage in any number of plays, or on the big screen — with a little training? She certainly has the presence and a lot of experience to draw upon. ?
I had the same thought during one of her talking head interviews, the one after the Landon ‘friendship’ scene, when she said “Fake” and made a funny face. She has a very expressive face.
You know people were ready to jump down her throat if that dress cost more than $80!
Like when she said she wasn’t a gold digger because her leggings were from Target lol. She is cute about stuff like that. Her legal bills must be huge so she might not be able to afford expensive clothes.
I know, right! She must be really struggling on her mid six figure Bravo check.
Andy asks female guests to show off their sense!blew all the time, including actual celebrity guests. I think he does it as a compliment and the guests love it BC famous peeps like attention. That didn’t bother me and I don’t think Kathryn !under. I thought her haircut looked cute but I prefer her color less purple and more copper red. The dress was pretty tacky and cheap looking but I liked the green with her hair. She didn’t seem drunk to me. She seemed very nervous and uncomfortable which made me think she was sober. She really does not have a good personality in my opinion. She just comes across as dull and immature. Maybe her anxiety makes her seem shy and awkward? I never got why everyone loves her so much?
I meant ensemble not “sense!blew”! Derrr
I don’t think KD was drunk or high at all. Her response time was a little slow but I think it was a little bit of nerves, anxiety and because she was thinking of the appropriate response to the questions asked. Her answers were very articulate and I don’t think she wanted to say anything wrong or offend anyone because the reunion was taping the next day.
As for her appearance, yes her hair was a bit brassy, and her outfit was a little Christmas partyish, but she is a beautiful girl and can basically pull anything off.
Nothing exciting happened on the aftershow. She did have the opportunity that Patti’s caftans were NOT fashionable and that her obsession with her…. she phrased it in a strange way but essentially said that Patti saw something in her that reminded her of her youth or something.
The only interesting part of the after show was how uncomfortable and irritated Kathryn seemed. She definitely seemed out of it to me. And over it.
I absolutely sensed that too. I felt uncomfortable. She seemed to almost be focused on Willie to the rescue. She seems very very uncomfortable around Andy and his games are not something she likes at all.
Andy may have been “kind” to her in words and gestures but kind of in a condescending way. Or that’s what I got anyway.
I think part of the reason Kathryn sounded slow is that (according to prior reports) she and Thomas have a settlement agreement they are reviewing, and she is not allowed to say a word against him, so she has to be so VERY careful about each and every one of her answers.. and I believe that she really wants her children back. She was only 21 when this all started.. and she has been through a lot of trauma.. and trauma can do a lot to a person.. This is a lot of stress for an early 20’s something..and I am rooting for Kathryn. I admire that she is handling everything as well as she is.
Good Lord, at 21 I was a party girl, like KD. If I had been caught up in the web she found herself in, I have no idea how I would have responded. 21 really is still so young and inexperienced for a lot of people. Thomas was 50, FFS.
21 is young if you are immature. At 21 I was a manager of 40 customer service reps. At 20 my BF was a single mom, worked full time and took classes. At 22 another friend had 2 kids while her hubby was overseas in the military. Young is one thing. Selfcentered and bratty is another.
21 is young, period. The difference of the maturity level I was at when I was 30 as opposed to 21 is astounding. I can’t imagine throwing children into the mix in my 20s. I was sorting life out, dating, going to school, and holding down a job. I have had friends that were self centered and bratty still in their 20s (also dated some men their 20s with the same qualities), but some of them slowly matured. Some people take longer than others. I wish Kathryn the best.
I liked Katherine’ s cut and color. The tossled Bob is in this year. I also thought that she looked lovely in her dress. I wish that her boobs had been arranged a bit better…her cleavage was as wonky as Andy’s necktie, but otherwise, she was beautiful. She seemed a bit nervous and Willie was sort of paternal toward her.
I will crawl back behind my rock now.
I thought she looked good last night. Also, while Kathryn handled the Snowden situation coldly, Snowden is just as crazy as the rest of the cast. The sweet act only works if you’re sweet all the time. She reminds me of Jaq Laurita, and I’m not the only one who thinks that. Using her kid’s struggle thinking it gives her a free pass to now do anything. She basically alluded she was going to be on the attack today and mentioned her son. All KD said was that people questioned the paternity, and Snowden’s new BFF Lando, plus others, did that to KD too. To suggest that warrants the hate frequently coming from Snowden makes her look pathetic IMO. Kathryn struggles with addiction and mental illness. She still seems to need help, even if for her mental health. She should be on top of that forever, it will keep her sober and correct some of her odd behavior. Tweeting/mocking someone about their addiction is sick. That’s just my two sense, people might not agree but that’s how I see it.
Jennifer Snowden has never used her child for anything and your comment about that is quite simply disgusting. To follow that up by saying the only thing Kathryn ever did was to run around town questioning the paternity of the child during Jennifer’s very serious pregnancy when there was a high probability that the child might die is beyond the pale. Jennifer has been holding back A LOT of things that Kathryn has done to her and she will be unleashing them all today on the reunion, according to her Twitter feed. I went to look at her Twitter for all this horrible behavior you speak of. Jennifer is a very laid back person until people like Kathryn, and apparently you want to malign her child by questioning his lineage. This is no small affront to southerners with education and deep southern roots. It may be common place for women to have multiple fathers for their multiple babies but there are still pockets of society who find that behavior unacceptable.
It is not Jennifer’s job anymore to help Kathryn. She tried that, and it resulted in the behavior that you seem to think is perfectly acceptable but many people do not. She is well within her rights to speak the truth of her relationship with Kathryn. That is not mocking her. That is HOLDING HER ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER BEHAVIOR. Something she desperately needs.
YES LAWD!!!
There seems to be a sentiment around social media that Jennifer is the one putting out disparaging information about Kathryn and her sobriety. Whether or not that is true, I don’t know. I do know that Jennifer’s tweets and social media comments give the impression that she could do such a thing. I honestly hope that she is/does not. If she does, she is no better than the people who were speaking badly about her in previous seasons. Karma is a mighty bitch and what comes around usually goes around. I live and die by that motto, so I turn my ear to gossip in real life. As for these public reality people, they’re fair game. They get paid a good dollar to make their lives available to criticism. I find it disturbing that people questioned the paternity of Kathryn’s son, and I find it equally disturbing that people questioned the paternity of Jennifer’s son. Two wrongs do not make a right. Both women need to rise above public pressure to look better than the other. Actions prove who a person is, not words.
I agree! Paternity was questioned of both women. Not nice, but that’s what feeds the reality show ratings! And honestly, most viewers are not tuning in to see people being nice to each other. Just sayin’. ?
Well said, TT. IMO, Kathryn is trying to deflect onto Jennifer by hiding the fact she had paternity tests done on her own TWO children. How embarrassing. Since day one she has always given me this creepy vibe that is unsettling.
I agree ? with you TT. I appreciate your restraint in your response…I would have typed that in bold and caps.
Well said T.
Well– my last comment wasn’t posted. I believe you are influenced by the d-list “celebrities” that take the time to reach out to you.
FFS, who wouldn’t be? When the images on the screen and/or names in print, become real people to you, you are in a far better position to evaluate their behavior and sincerity – if you aren’t a gullible person, that is. And TT is miles away from being a gullible person.
Jennifer is a wolf in sheeps clothing…
Agree totally.
Oh my she does not look so good.
Does Chelsea still do her hair? Yikes.
Kathryn said she had only done a blowout on her on the show but she liked it. My guess is no.
Can I just say how much I LOVE the category of this post?? “Dumbasses”. THE.BEST!
I was rooting for Kathryn and this is just damn sad.
Here’s my two cents:
1.) Katheryn looked great – hair & dress
2.) I don’t think she was drunk/high…
3.) I think she just hates Andy
4.) Craig is gay
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I don’t think Kathryn looked good at all and what really baffles me is her crappy attitude. Right off the bat she lied about drinking. (Sigh) Hope she really is on the mend but still questionable.
TT, I love you, and your recaps and sensibilities are usually right, but I’m not seeing what did. To me she seemed composed and honest about her feelings. She wasn’t slurring or mumbling. She didn’t appear anywhere near the inebriated state that Sonjia was in when she showed up on WWHL a few nights ago. That’s a drunk/high woman.
I agree. She looked cute to me as usual and she’s always very fashionable with an IT factor that the other ladies on that show don’t have. Her hair didn’t look bad to me either. The wig color was a little dark for summer, but other than that she pulled it off. The cast on that show are really hard on her, so I liked the fact that Andy was giving her well deserved compliments. She’s a beautiful woman and doesn’t look and act basic like the other women on that show.
I love that you didn’t see what I did and I REALLY hope you are right.
I’m fascinated by the arguments on both sides of of the high as a kite or sober debate and the most hideous wardrobe and hair ever or she looked great faction.
Did not watch WWHL because Andy Cohen bothers me viscerally. But the photos of Kathryn posted make me sad. Such a young woman, with real beauty. Whoever put her in that dress and hairstyle wanted to make her look old and worn. Shade!
Not writing more because I want to do an Andy rant. But I do think he had a hand in dressing Kathryn to look old.
Andy is so hateful to Luann any chance he gets…I don’t understand, ever since she and the Count split she has been the coolest broad.
I like Kathryn’s new look.
Willie Geist is my spirit animal, so I love when he is on.
The thing with with Kathryn is if she’s not snarking, rolling her eyes, snarling she’s sloe eyed (not in a good way), slow to come back or dancing & sticking her white pants ass in their face. She was shit faced in Key West. If she didn’t have 2 little ones she’s trying to get back, OK, have fun. But that’s not going to look good to a judge. She’s not that young & had a long history of drinking/drugs before Ravenal. She was not a senate Barbie, she was an intern who screwed that up too. Men indulge her but looks don’t last that long honey. I don’t think think she looked very good at all on WWHL.
And P.S. Man she was in NYC, get an expert hair stylist, they are phenomenal there. Expensive but worth it especially if you’re going on damn T.V.
Kathryn’s hair style was wig…
I’m almost always Team Kathryn, but something was definitely off last night. She looked at Willie Geist twice when they were going to break, with a kind of exasperated, WTF expression on her face. She seemed very lacking in energy and borderline sad/irritated, but definitely not high or drunk. Maybe it was just an off day for her. Really miss her old light red hair – thought it was gorgeous, and the darker color just doesn’t highlight her beauty. The dress was a bit meh, but she has a body I, in my prime, would have killed for. I wish her tons of luck – she’s a very young woman who got in over her head with the Charleston crowd, especially that frat boy in a man’s body T-Rav, but she’s learned how to play the game very well over the years
For me, the “hiccup” incident was revealing. As Kathryn was articulating a thoughtful response to a caller, Andy hiccuped and started giggling, then carried on like a tween for far too long. Instead of asking Kathryn to finish her reply, he sensed her irritation and asked, “Are you mad at me?” She politely answered, “No.” I thought she looked beautiful, but she seemed very uncomfortable sitting in that small chair with those long legs and a short dress.
I loathe Andy, don’t watch WWHL, but made it through half the show because I was curious about Kathryn after seeing the comments. I couldn’t tell if she was high or not. Twitchy, yes, but she has never been comfortable in her skin. Her treatment of Jennifer is unforgivable. I don’t care who did what to whom.
How Andy made it this far is beyond me.
If you can figure out how Andy is still relevant share it! I can’t get it anymore.
Some of the cast have posted pics from the reunion taping on Instagram. Can, Kathryn and Sheppy I think posted so far. Kathryn is wearing a crazy red gown that, as usual, looks way too mature for her. Cam looks really cute with her bump in a tight peach colored dress. Landon has on a long, fluttery white dress that I really like (I do like her style as much as I hate to admit it! There is a group pic with everyone except Naomie and Whitney. Found that odd. Jennifer, Austen and Chelsea are in the pic but no Whitney or Naomie?