Well this should be interesting. I wonder if Andy will ask Jill Zarin if she is secretly taping the interview again this time. The last time she was on it was kind of a disaster. I can’t believe that was five years ago.
Luann says the Marilyn Monroe act at the reception was great until she started to sing. So Luann took over the singing. Why didn’t we get to see that? I feel like a lot of good stuff was on the cutting room floor this episode.
Ramona trash talked Jill Zarin on the Jenny McCarthy show saying she was desperate to be back on the show. Andy asks Jill what she thought about that. First of all Jill’s dress is stunning. I hope I can find a photo of it for you tonight. Jill says that Ramona’s comments were really hurtful because they are still around the same group of people and she knows it has been a really rough year for her as Bobby was going through serious medical issues. It might not have been so hurtful a few years about but this year she has been focused on Bobby’s health. She says recently she and Luann were out to dinner and Luann took off when she saw Ramona coming leaving Jill to deal with her. Jill says she had it out with Ramona but the conversation ended positively.
Andy shoots rapid fire questions to Jill about the Berkshires drama. She says that Bethenny was projecting when she had the breakdown about Tom. She says that Ramona’s tirade on Bethenny was about seven years too late. She says Bethenny is the hardest working woman she knows and Ramona’s comments didn’t fly with her. Jill says Ramona tearing up Dorinda’s house was “disgusting, absolutely a pig.”
Next week Ramona invites one of Tom’s former flings to her party. Because clearly Ramona wants to be despised by every single RHONY this season. Luann had not seen the scene, but she was in it. She laughs and says the old girlfriends just keep showing up. But they married her. When you are single for as long as Tom was, and you live in the same town the whole time, you are going to have a ton of exes popping up everywhere. This is why I move every few years. Just kidding. Sort of.
Andy asks about the choke kiss at the wedding reception. I have to say that was weird. Luann says, “Passion, a lot of passion.” God I love Luann.
Next they cleared up the rumor that People refused to pay the $25,000 for Luann’s wedding photos because Jill released photos before People could print theirs up. They both say that absolutely wasn’t true. Jill strongly denied it and Luann seemed to just back her up halfheartedly.
Someone asks Luann what she thought about Carole insinuating Tom was gay at the dim sum luncheon. Luann says she must have missed that. Don’t they have anything better to talk about? Dorinda was the only RHONY to give Luann a wedding gift.
Luann and Tom still go to the Regency.
That was a very tame episode. I was surprised. If I remember I will add the aftershow tomorrow.
Jill looked beautiful, very happy for Luann.
Jill Zarin,
Oh how I’ve missed you. I was late to the RHONY train. I didn’t start watching until Aviva showed up. However, I recall watching the S03 & S04 reunions. Loved her quick wit, insanity, and delusion. The show truly hasn’t been the same since she left. I’m sure she is playing nice with Andy for a potential comeback for S10. And I am here for it!
If Daniel can make a comeback to RHONJ, then anything is possible.
Jill and Bethenny were the best part of RHNY season 1. Their friendship was adorable but Jill couldn’t handle it when Bethenny stopped being her sidekick and started to have her own life and storyline.
TT I think the last time Jill was on WWHL was the episode with Rebecca Romjin, not too long ago.
Maybe, I don’t remember. I probably recapped it if so…
I need to see that Marilyn scene. Because if Lu had to take over, damn! Had to be b-aa-aa-d! I love Lu but her singing…
…. is simply divine? 🙂 Don’t hate on my girl. xo
I hope Jill is not coming back to NY. I can’t stand her voice or her frankly. The whole questioning about wedding gifts and if Dorinda’s gave one was odd. Luann finally admitted Dorinda’s gave her one but it was kinda strange. I hope Bethanny’s quits the show but not with Jill as a replacement.
She’s not on Andy’s podcast today he made that abundantly clear. His misogyny was in full form. He must have been hungover or something. He was hating everyone.
I thought they both looked stunning! I also thought they were both quite gracious and kind. Jill, however, did try to answer for Lu each and every time. Of course Andy couldn’t help but be shady showing some of the nasty moments from the Tomgate. He could have, just this once, been kind and happy for LU. I don’t take his Mazel seriously because he was nasty prior to that so there is that.
Andy, when he bothers to try to hide the vitriol does what Maya Angelou calls, blow, bite and blow. Compliment, horrific insult, mild compliment. He was trashing Lu again on the podcast thing today. errrr yesterday. He told the story of how Lu came to wear Jill’s dress. I don’t think he understands female friendships at all. How could he? He is too busy being self absorbed.
I feel badly for Jill because she would love to be back on the show. While I thought Bobby was the single best husband the RH franchise has ever had, and wish him much good health, there is absolutely NO WAY Jill could ever be back on RHNY- and the truth is, she has worn out her welcome and so oversold herself that there is no producer in the country who would hire her.
She is pushy, jealous, manipulative, insanely insecure and demanding. It was one thing to do it to the RH crowd, and then offend Andy over and over again, to her last stroke of defensive self-sabotage in the WWHL taping episode 5 years ago .
Both before and after that, she pushed herself at all three major networks, each of the major and minor cables, and had small appearances on a couple of the shows after blowing her spot on ABC. Jill may mean well when she begins something, but she has little self-control, no ability to perceive and modify how she comes across, and zero ability to reign in her overly pushy demands for more attention. Nothing is enough, and the jealousy and competitive edge that played out so awfully on RHNY become ugly and hostile. And she just does not see it. There were so many events that played out behind the scenes that the audience never heard about- and Jill was always looking for ways to create more drama “for the show”, but it was really to highlight herself and get more camera time and share.
TT must have 100’s of these stories, but one I know is about a piece of Scary Island. I understand that while Jill said she could not go on the trip because her daughter had college exams that weekend, in truth she objected to Ramona having a “girls bachelorette” weekend. So Jill refused to go, and tried to talk all the other women into not going as well, which is why Luann didn’t go. When not all agreed to skip it, Jill offered to host a competing trip at the same time, deliberately trying to make it more appealing, to ruin Ramona’s event. But Bravo pushed and the women, save Jill and Luann , stayed with the script. So after all that scheming , as the girls were on their trip, Jill determined her plan had failed, and she was going to miss several weeks of screen time. Hence Bobby hires a plane and they “surprise ” arrive” on the Island, expecting the girls to welcome them. But no one did, because she had behaved so badly, and they were not prepared to let her get away with this reversal and pretending to miss them, etc., etc., So they did not welcome her, and she and Bobby left, saying they had been mistreated, though of course that was all on her. And still she plays the wounded victim.
Jill was so manipulative, cunning, insecure, devious, and out for herself at the expense of others, at all costs. There were, just like last night, always three problems she had caused someone else had to cleanup,
like Luann’s People magazine picture money. Jill had to be first to put out wedding pictures, so the rumor was that People magazine refused to give Lu the $25,000 she had been promised for charity, supposedly, after Jill released pictures early.
Jill played a significant role in changing reality TV, showing the coarse exploitative ways that casts could act in a manipulative manner. She loved the notoriety, and sold her soul for it. She is still too much, and talked over Luann all night last night-she cannot help herself, or learn from her own lessons. . Please- no more Jill.
There is zero entertainment value in her ugliness.
So is the buddy buddy relationship that Lu has with Jill the real reason Bethenny hates Luann so much?
I can happily look past all of that but I just wish I could un-see that disgusting chihuahua licking the inside of her nose every time she holds it. Blech!!!!
Great post, thanks.
I would take Jill back in a heartbeat if we could get rid of Ramona, and/or Sonja. We don’t need both of them. That said, Jill used to want to come back, but with Bobby’s health, I honestly don’t think she wants to anymore. At least full time. She adores Bobby and he needs her. The occasional dinner at her favorite restaurant, Phillipe, which she chose, I’m sure, would be nice though.
I agree Sonja could have exited a season or three ago. And while I detest Ramona-always have-she’s having an entertaining spell of out of control messiness. I kind of want to see how it plays out now. I should be more sympathetic-I was divorced after 20 something years and the first 2 or 3 years are really hard-but the frenetic (and I suspect mostly fictitious) dating, the delusions about how youthful she looks, the nearly incoherent attacks on the other cast members, the chocolate Santa win, and wrecking Dorinda’s house….it’s the most entertaining she’s been in a long time.
Any luck on where Jill’s dress is for
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I haven’t had time to ask her. If you tweet her I am sure Jill will tell you. Please report back. Jill is very friendly on Twitter if you are nice to her, she’ll be nice to you.
Yes the dress! Who makes it???????