Tonight, we will see now much of what really went down in The Berkshires last December gets shown. With Luann’s wedding looming, she and bridesmaid Dorinda have dinner with Jill and Bobby Zarin at Phillipe. Before we get to that dinner, we all have to survive the Berkshires, and that is a difficult task every year.
We left off with Bethenny and Ramona having a showdown. Bethenny called Ramona a bad friend and Ramona screamed “Are you kidding me?” A total of four times with more drama in each wild eyed exclamation. Production is going to a lot of effort to make sure we know that Ramona seems to be on something. Bethenny begins stating her case from 2009 when Ramona told Bethenny that she would end up alone. Then she moves to 2015 when she claims Ramona stole two dresses from her on her talk show. Actually that was in 2014 not 2015 as the show indicates. I suppose the episode of RHONY they are showing was from 2015. Ramona tells Bethenny she is crazy. That might be the case but she is telling the truth. Then she says she visited with her at Dennis’ house before filming and never mention her concern about Bryn and the topless movie until she was on camera she had an audience.
Ramona’s response is, “You were topless, you had sex on a waterbed, you kissed another woman, if you are going to mention it, mention it all!” Dear Lord Ramona is truly awful. Bethenny says she made her own money and Ramona married hers. Ramona says that Bethenny only fucked guys with money to get to the top. My mama used to say, it’s just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is a poor one. In my case both were equally difficult. Ramona says she has taken care of herself since she was 16. It dawns on Bethenny that Ramona’s attempts to disparage her and her business comes from jealousy. She asks Ramona how many cases of wine she sold this year. Ramona said she had wine before Bethenny and she sold ten thousand cases her first year. She says Bethenny’s business are failing.
In her talking head, Ramona says she wants to hurt Bethenny because she is hurting her. Back in the Berkshires, Ramona lists everything that Bethenny had or has that she wanted. She says Bethenny had everything given to her. Bethenny is sitting there looking at her like she is on crack. Then suddenly the Ramonacoaster takes a huge drop where Ramona starts talking about the pain of ending her 25 year marriage and how that is something Bethenny will never understand. Actually, Bethenny’s divorce seemed pretty painful from her on the ghetto couch.
I am struggling to understand how any of this proves Ramona’s argument that she is a good friend to Bethenny. It seems like more evidence that she was not to me. When the fake crying starts Bethenny suggests that Ramona doesn’t see herself clearly. Ramona with pure hatred in her voice tells Bethenny that she is an opportunist and she uses people. Bethenny suggests if that is how she feels could she please get out of her ass and stop trying to get on her good side. Why does she keep apologizing if she dislikes her so much? Ramona keeps screaming at Bethenny about how nice she (Ramona) is and how she loves people and Bethenny is just a bitch. A bitchy witch. She is fond of that term and repeats it several times before realizing she is out of wine. So Bethenny gets a reprieve while Ramona tracks down another bottle. I suspect at least half of the ten thousand cases that first year were purchased by Ramona.
After Ramona’s brutal attack on Bethenny, during which she said some things that Bethenny had disclosed about how her mother treated her, Bethenny tells Carole she is ready to go home. It was so bad she can’t event explain to Carole how horrible it was. Plus, you know Carole was standing out of sight somewhere listening to the whole thing. Probably with Sonja and Dorinda. Bethenny tells the story very accurately to Carole. Did Bethenny get her boobs fixed? They look huge with that black bra on.
Ramona tells Sonja that she called Bethenny bitchy bitchy witch because Bethenny attacked her. Sonja points out that she promised to leave Bethenny alone and try to make up with her. Ramona’s story is total bullshit. She is wasted out of her mind. She tells Carole that Bethenny is a user and she is using her right now by making her leave with her. Carole is actually glad for a reason to flee. She gets up in Carole’s face and says that Bethenny told her she doesn’t like hanging out with Carole because she’s boring. Carole doesn’t believe her. Ramona screams that she doesn’t lie. That is approximately lie number 834 that she has spewed in the first nine minute of this program.
Dorinda is furious that Bethenny and Carole are leaving instead of Ramona. Where the hell would drunk Ramona go? She can’t just be shoved out the door unsupervised. Bethenny tells Ramona to get away from her. She will never speak to her again, they will never be on the same sidewalk. Ramona asks why she is such a vicious bitch. As Bethenny walks off drunk ass Ramona is all, “Gah, I said I was sorry! I tried to make up with her! Bethenny and Carole leave with the driver.
Tinsley has been sick and slept through all the drama. Which is convenient because now Dorinda can recap it for her. It appears that Sonja didn’t pass out ON the dining room table, She passed out in a dining room chair sitting up with her arm on the buffet. Dorinda thought she was dead. Ramona comes down for breakfast continuing to lie. She tells Dorinda that she was mad at Bethenny for slandering John two seasons ago. She is a lying liar who lies out of her lie hole.
Luanna arrives ever the blushing bride in her “Mrs D’Agotino To Be” tank top and offers to make everyone eggs a la Francais. Sonja wanders down wearing a pair of PJs that belong to Dorinda. Her dead husband gave them to her and she had them hanging in a zipper wardrobe bag in a closet. That means that at some point after she got Sonja’s drunk ass to bed while avoiding her sexual advances, Sonja went through Dorinda’s closets.
Sonja comes to Tinsley’s room to talk to her about the rules of her house again. It’s like they were supposed to have that fight but Tinsley got sick and Sonja missed her big scene so she is going to have it now even though it is coming out of no where and makes no sense.
Dorinda finally gets everyone the hell out of the beautiful Bluestone Manor and starts to clean up. It amazes me that every year these bitches do not make their bed and clean up behind themselves before leaving. But this year, Ramona literally trashed her room. While she was drunk she apparently yanks sconces out of the wall and did damage to the wall way up to the ceiling. Dorinda is still heartbroken about the way Ramona treated her home. She has worked so hard on that house to get just the “Marilyn Monroe Meets Frankenstein” look she wanted. That house is her pride and joy and Ramona tore it up. I would like to believe that this was just storyline but I heard immediately after the party that Dorinda was extremely upset about how her house was treated this season.
Carole takes Tinsley to see an apartment in her building. It’s gorgeous. Tinsley loves it but her “life” is in the upper east side and the apartment if far away from her hairdresser and her dry cleaner. It’s also $7,100 a month and that may be out of her price range.
Bethenny has a moth problem in her closet. Dorinda’s husband John charged her $10,000 to fix it. There are still moths. Do rich people not know about mothballs?
It’s finally time for the much publicized Jill Zarin scene. Despite all the rumors, as I told you at the time, this is the one Jill Zarin scene in the show. Well, she was at Luann’s wedding celebration in New York that they filmed after her honeymoon. But I don’t think they even put a microphone on her.
Dorinda and Jill have known each other forever. Luann is excited to have Jill and Bobby at the wedding. Dorinda tells Tom about the Ramona drama. Jill says she misses the gossip and wants to hear everything. Luann tells Jill about the “intervention” that Ramona instigated to warn her about Tom. Because let’s face it, Ramona is just a giant cunt this season. To everyone. Even Sonja is growing weary of her. Jill suggests that Tom have a GPS attached to him so that all the women can save themselves some time. Tom says there is no need he only ever goes to five places. He’s easy to find, he has set routine. Places like The Regency where there is a crowd of regulars he’s known and even dated for years. He says Ramona is calling them and friends of his to inquire about his activities. Jill pretends to be mortified, but frankly it sounds like something Jill would do if she were still on the show.
I wonder why John didn’t come to this. He was invited. I do remember Dorinda saying in one of the first episodes that he would not be on the show as much this year. I’m sure it is because of Ramona and Sonja trash talking him on TV. That’s not good for his business.
We get lots of flashbacks from Jill’s season. Jill says she invited Ramona to her party at this year because she knew she wanted to come. Then Ramona had a big party and didn’t invite her. Jill says she was in Hawaii anyway but that’s not the point. Tom says he feels sorry for Ramona because he likes her and wants her to be happy. Jill and Luann both dislike Ramona. Jill says Ramona is very unhappy and lonely and she is taking it out on those around her. Dorinda defends Ramona saying she doesn’t see her as an unhappy person. WTF, Dorinda? She was drunk as a skunk berating Bethenny and tearing your house up just last week!
Jill is upset that Bethenny is not invited to the wedding. She wanted to see her. Oh Jill, that ship has sailed. It was good to see you, now Sashay away.
Carol has invited Tinsley to an Art Show featuring her neighbor, Linda Mason. Carole is one of the artist’s models and there are nude paintings of Carole and others on display. I had a post on this event but it is taking way too long to find it. The artwork is gorgeous and each sells for almost $8,000. Bethenny jokes about Carol being topless all over the wall because Ramona made such a big deal out of her little movie. Carol says, “It’s art.” Dorinda fills Bethenny and Carole in on how badly Ramona trashed her house.
Ramona shows up to the event. She’s still fucked up on whatever she is on. Bethenny avoids her but Dorinda tells her she didn’t appreciate how she trashed her home and she is sending her up next weekend to paint it. Ramona is all like whatever. No apology. Nothing. Then Ramona starts talking about how “Bethenny lost it on her.” Dorinda seethes quietly. In her talking head she says if she were a real bitch she’d sue her for the damages. Instead she talks to Carole and wants one of the paintings. She says Carole should buy one and put it on her wall. Carole says that would be narcissistic. I disagree. I think she will regret not buying one. I have a large pastel on my wall that my favorite aunt did that everyone thinks is me.
Carole tries to hook Tinsley up with her dentist. Then Sonja wanders in late. She chats with Bethenny and then Ramona walks up. Bethenny walks away. Ramona says that Bethenny was isolating Sonja last year and she defended her because she didn’t want Sonja to get kicked of the show be isolated from the group. Ramona is fighting hard to turn everyone against Bethenny. But no one is falling for it.
Luann and Tom head off to get married. They seem really happy together and like a cute match. Tom has a great sense of humor. They talk about whether or not to spend the night before the wedding together. Luann brings it up. Tom says he is going out on Friday night, he has a hall pass. They laugh. I do sort of think that a lot of Tom’s cheating is a whole, “one last hurrah” before the old ball and chain sort of thing. I really don’t think Luann cares that much and believes he will settle down once they are married.
As Luann steps out of the limo and on to the helipad to take them to the airport, she says in her confessional that she feels like she is Cinderella. All the girls were at the ball but she got the glass slipper. I’m happy for you Luann. I may be the only one, but I really wish nothing but the best for you.
They don’t tell us what is going on next week. They show us the trailer for the entire second half of the season instead. You can see my thoughts on that here.
This franchise is so boring now, the marathon of previous seasons with Jill, Alex and Kelly was much better. Firing all of them was the worst decision bravo made, It’s just too boring to watch now. I was happy to see Jill back but Dorinda, Tinkles and Sonya can go. Make NYC great again because Ramona, Luann and Bethenny can’t do it alone.
Roman has lost her fucking mind. I never really cared for her, but this season she is unwatchable. I would never speak to her again if she did that to my house.
It was like a kindergarten poem about butterflies compared to the unprovoked bile the Bethenny spewed on LuAnne last year. Bethenny is a vile, broken, heartless creature. I believe Ramona 10,000 % that Bethenny said that Carole is boring. She likes having a tag a long friend – like a neighbor kid two or three years younger than you – who can be on your team until someone better comes along. Bethenny will never understand how horrible she is, and will never understand it when her daughter grows up to hate her. It will not be easy being her daughter, and Bethenny will drive that girl to hate her with guilt and crying jags “My whole life is for boo hoo hoo”
YAWN
Agree with you Dexter pie
That was some fight, when Ramona called Bethenny “broken” several times, that was so harsh, it made me sad. Overall I think Bethenny handled it very gracefully. How Ramona can defend anything she did that night is beyond me. Poor Dorinda, she was such a good sport for that whole mess, and then her sconces are ripped off the walls? her garment bags are ripped open and stuff is removed and worn?
Glad to see Bobby looks well, Jill has not changed a bit, and the rest of the show was nothing compared to the first 10 minutes.
How graceful was Bethenny last year with Luanne, Or Sonja? What has Bethenny done to defend or excuse her disgusting behavior? Wasn’t that telling when Bethenny acknowledged Ramona is there for her in illness and crisis – and just crapped on that? When was Bethenny there for anyone other than Bethenny? One example please of Bethenny being nice. And bringing someone a Skinnygirl branding opportunity gift does not count.
Ok Ramona. Calm it down. Chill out.
This!!! I love it Scarlet LMAO!!
I totally agree Dexter.
While I appreciate your post, you made a lot of typos. Is there some way you can edit what you have posted? The biggest mistake was in the third to last paragraph where you say, “Carol and Tom head off to get married.” I do agree that in spite of what people say about Tom, Luann and Tom do seem happy.
Please read the commenting rules. THen ask yourself if you think Carol married Tom. Then go die in a fire.
Where are your commenting rules?
There’s a link to the commenting rules on the top left of this page, in the black bar.
Well. That escalated quickly. Tamara, I think Ramona may have hacked your account!
I said “please.” 🙂
Love, love, love tt
Tamara posts recaps faster than anyone out there. It is amazing how well she writes. Genius. I can’t even send texts without autocorrect messing things up.
LOL!!!!
“Then ask yourself if you think Carol married Tom…” I can’t stop giggling. It’s been a long week.
You want a perfectly written blog, go make your own.
You’re new here, Tina Marie, right? Um, suggestion, acquaint yourself with the WLS. Just sayin’.
Tina Marie are you new here???? Because you’re going to learn today child LMAO!!!
Ramona has lost her damn mind. I don’t know who is more insane, her or Sonja. Can’t stand either.
Ramona has become more vicious and vile each season. I can’t stand Sonya lecturing on “proper behavior” while she constantly displays a complete lack of decorum and basic decency. The two are past their expiration date on the show and need to go- they aren’t funny, interesting or worthy of airtime.
I like Ramona. I only wish she were more articulate and could take Bethenny down better. Sonja is pathetic. She is jealous of Tinsley and likes that Tinsley has also fallen from that American Aristocracy Society mountain. Sonja was the real deal, married to a Morgan, perfect pedigree, great bank account, and se was cast outside. She’s not invited to the palace much anymore, even if it was only the Grimaldi palace in Monaco. She sees Tinsley, basically herself twenty-five years ago, and it tickles her pink that Tinsley who was even bigger than Sonja – a real “It-girl” fashion media darling A-lister, has fallen so far into her own dank townhouse. This makes Sonja feel better. I like Sonja. She’s a trooper. And Ramona – I get what people say about her – I just think she has a heart. She is not a bad person. Bethenny is a heartless harpy.
I didn’t feel too bad for Bethenny considering how she went off on Luann last yr. This was her karma. Every time Bethenny comes on the screen, I get anxiety. She’s just a nasty person, and Ramona is right, she can dish it but runs away the second someone dishes it back. Still, Ramona is a nut job. I can’t believe how those tramps treated Dorinda’s home. I would have thrown them head first out of my house. She should never invite Ramona to her house again. I was boiling with anger on Dorinda’s behalf when I saw what Ramina had done and that’s Sonja was wearing her PJs from Richard without even asking for permission. Who does that?
I don’t know why everyone is so down on Ramona, Bethany started it by saying that Ramona has never been a good friend to her. When she was one of the only ones who visited and brought food and books or magazines to read when Bethany was in bed after her surgery or illness or whatever it was. I use to like Bethany in days of old but she has used her celebrity to bash her ex publically, you don’t do that to the father of your child. Her daughter loves her dad and from what I saw on the show when he was on he could never do anything right with her. She has an evil scarcasm and in her world it’s her way or no way. I like Ramona, Sonja, Dorinda the most.
You are a moron.
LOL..you’re killing me today..LOL
I agree with you Lucretia. I also think Bethenny antagonized Ramona. She had a satisfied look on her face when Ramona was going off on her. like “mission accomplished “
That is the face of a person who is over Ramona and is deciding to sit back and watch Ramona have a meltdown. I make those faces.
I with you. Bethenny is nasty. She’s gone after Dorinda, John, Sonya, Luann and now Ramona. Who is she a good friend to? Carole? How many events has she bolted from? She can certainly dish it out, but can’t take it. She was “done” with Sonya and Luann, but now .. . . I think the problem is that Bethenny thinks she’s too invaluable as a cast member. Everyone is disposable.
I also didn’t enjoy watching her in that bra. Boob job and a nice push up bra. Congrats. I have a nice one too, and it does wonders for me if I’m going for “that look.” So, pretty much never. And it takes up too much space in the closet.
Ramona is nasty too. She lost her mind a few seasons ago when anyone even hinted about Mario’s cheating yet she thinks it’s ok to keep going in on Luann about Tom. Ramona didn’t make one bit of sense in their argument.
It’s funny that Ramona hates Jill so much yet Ramona is attempting the exact same strategy as Jill which is to try and turn the other women against Bethenny and that strategy is failing.
Even though Bethenny listed her reasons for why Ramona has never been a good friend, I personally think that the tension between Bethenny and Ramona really is about the fact that at last season’s reunion, Sonja spilled the tea that Romona was the first one who going to do the Tipsy Girl thing
Anyone who thinks these women are true “friends” is delusional. They are colleagues. If any of my real friends spoke to me the way some of these women speak to each other, they’d be blocked in every sense of the word.
So, for entertainment purposes, we watch women rip each other apart, say the unforgivable and we are still expected to believe that there’s any true feeling of love or friendship among any of them. But we know this behavior would not be tolerated in real life. And if it is, that says more about the type of person who puts up with this abuse than about the abuser.
Ramona’s tirade felt like pent up stuff. She kissed B’s ass big time last year because she felt it was important to her survival on the show. After seeing B get dragged every which way after her vicious attack on Lu, Ramona likely figured she could safely bait Bethenny and not suffer public backlash.
Ramona seems to be flailing and miserable, and possibly overmedicated, this year. She can put on a false bravado, tack on some bigger tits and tweak her face from now until the end of time and nothing will fill the big black hole of public humiliation and betrayal she experienced when Mario cheated on her.
This is no flimsy escape tv anymore. Real life is bad enough at the moment. I need a laugh, not another scene of women acting like zoo animals.
I agree Katherine 2.0 but have a hard time identifying how much of this is just scripted and they are terrible actors. And to me, it says as much about the abuser as the abused; I can’t give a pass to a person verbally assaulting *friends* just because said *friends* stand there and take it. You know? Just bad all around.
Hey spk, I see what you are saying, but there’s a difference between abusing someone’s friendship and verbally assaulting them on a given day. We have all had friends and family who are having a rough time and take it out on those closest to them. I am sure I have done it myself on occasion.
As for the trouble discerning real from scripted, that’s another issue, isn’t it? If scripted, you have to wonder at what these folks think passes for entertainment. How low will they go? They keep lowering the bar.
I too was angry and super-sad on Dorinda’s behalf. The look in her eyes when she brought it up the damage with Ramona, the sound of her voice in her confessional video. Ugh. Ramona & Bethany share a bit self-absorption-disease but Ramona is unfit, unless she’s talking to her daughter.
Maybe Luann is happy with her choice but I just don’t get Tom. Not one bit, no appeal to me whatsoever. Not that my taste in men matters.
But the paintings and the rotating still shots art piece were beautiful. You can really see that woman’s history in makeup design.
F’g spell check is not omnipotent .. Bethenny dammit.
Luann laughed the “hall pass” comment, but to me, it looked like she didn’t appreciate it and chose to tolerate it instead.
That’s her choice, of course, but I interpreted a forced facial expression rather than a sincerely amused one.
I can’t imagine any soon-to-be-bride really laughing about a comment like that, regardless of a supposed “understanding” and especially on camera… and especially right before the wedding… and especially when everyone is questioning the quality of commitment…
I felt bad for Luann, which is rare, because I saw her putting on a smile that she didn’t really feel. She’s probably had to do that a lot. We all probably have…
Also, Ramona was a complete disaster the entire episode and Bethenny brought up a valid possible motive (for lack of a better word) that I’d never considered–she made some good points that I’d never have seen.
Catching some of the old RHONY marathon brought back an interesting perspective, btw.
Tom doesn’t strike me as a guy in love with his bride to be. I wonder what’s the point of the marriage. I can understand needing companionship, but this relationship comes with a side dish of public humiliation. If the engagement period is the most romantic time of a relationship, then it doesn’t look promising for their marriage that he’s openly seeking to be away from her already.
Hello Something Clever, there is something off with Tom I cant place a finger. I found myself making up excuses for him when they were on the way to the helicopter. For instance, who was he texting, why was he on his phone, why did he look 5k miles away from the conversation. Lu is so very excited and I hope he makes good on his vows. I think she is okay with an open relationship as long as it is not in the public eye.
Ramona- well she looks a mess, I do not understand the hair at all. The eyes are crazier than ever. Why oh why would she tear someones sconces from the wall. What is her problem? I thinks its Zanax and Wine. I really do not care for the argument with Beth except for when she said Beth f’d her way to the top, that was cruel and she knows its untrue. Whats with the fake Mario tears.
Tinsley- needs to run from Sonja and I like Sonja but her jealousy is showing.
Carole- The painting were gorgeous she was a great muse.
Beth- She probably will not speak with Ramona again, however, she sees now how Lu felt.
LOL, that is not unusual groom behavior.
“OK, Tom, now let’s talk about flower arrangements and calligraphy….”
“….zzzzz”
That might be true, but surely it’s not normal for a man who’s been exposed for cheating on his fiancee to make a joke on-camera about having a “hall pass”. That was ill-considered, and just exposes Luann to further ridicule.
You’re right Johnny it isn’t. My husband was sitting next to me while I was watching the episode & said “She better watch out for that guy.” And my husband has zero knowledge of the backstory of Tom & Luann. I hope for her sake her stays faithful.
*he stays faithful.
Ramona is just unbelievably obnoxious, again and again. Yet the moment Jill returns to the screen and they showed the flashbacks, I found sympathy for Ramona. Jill is a beast.
Well that was a jaw dropping episode.
When Ramona starts keeping her eyes closed when she’s talking, she’s lying/spewing delusional shit.
Was she going to grab Bethenny’s pussy when B spread her legs?
I am happy for Luann and I love that you are happy for her too, TT.
I’m happy for Luann; she wanted the fairy tale wedding and got it. I wish them well!
Well…Ramona and Sonja are known sloppy drunks. They both need an intervention. However, Ramona is right about one thing. Remember, last season when Bethy was bleeding and had to have surgery? I believe it was…on last season’s reunion where she said that : Ramona was there for her, texted her every day to see how she was doing, checked on her, etc. I think Bethy said that Ramona was there for more than any of the others. I remember this clearly. However, this does not excuse Ramona’s awful behavior . I feel really bad for Dorinda. I want to know what the hell went on in the room Ramona and Sonja slept in. Why the missing sconces, nicks in the wall, bed unmade. I mean…this is truly insane. I’m surprised BRAVO didn’t film it. Maybe they did…but Ramona threatened to sue them. Who the hell knows?
I do know this: Most of these women need to get a life. Its catty drunk bitches vs. catty bitches…all who need men and/or money to justify their existence. A real sad state of affairs . I do adore Dorinda though. She’s at least real in some capacity…but I fear she’s got a major alcohol problem…as well. Most of these Real Housewives do.
Entertaining but really sad in the end…like most exploitative “reality” TV. Bravo, Bravo! Nope.
I would never have been as restrained as Dorinda appeared regarding all the damage to her bedroom!.
SOnja could have made the bed. Sonja is equally responsible. I had a friend..who never was invited back to my home again. Not as much damage as Ramona did…but bad enough.
Very sad.
I think the episodes chosen for yesterday’s RHONY marathon that preceded last night’s episode were an interesting choice that set out to accomplish the following:
*Remind us viewers that have been watching since Season 1 why they chose team Bethenny in both the battles of Jill vs Bethenny and Ramona vs Bethenny.
*Remind us why Ramona and Bethenny were NEVER true friends.
*Remind us of the old Countess Luann and her evolution to this current Luann gracing our television screens.
*Remind us of how kind Luann was to Ramona when the psychic revealed Mario’s cheating and compare it to how Ramona has treated Luann last season and this one regarding Tom’s extracurricular activities.
*Remind us that marriage vow renewal ceremonies are the kiss of death for Housewife marriages.
*Remind us that once upon a time Sonja was both fun and sane
It’s funny that you say that about Luann and Ramona in Morocco. I have been assuming that the majority of Ramona’s behavior regarding Tom is her way of getting back at Luann for setting up that “psychic” consultation to accuse Mario of cheating on camera. I was watching that yesterday and Luann was really pushing to make sure the psychic got all of that stuff out there while Kelly was saying that Luann was misrepresenting what was being said in the French translation. So, I think thought Ramona’s behavior towards Tom was partly fueled by Luann making sure Ramona’s marriage was being speculated about on the show.
You make a good about Luann pushing for the psychic to get all of that stuff out and on camera. I missed that and got distracted by Luann saying she’s there for Ramona. Good catch. One trait Ramona and Bethenny share is that they NEVER forget and hardly ever forgive so I agree that Ramona’s campaign against Tom is pay back to Luann.
Well written! I agree with you, nothing I can add, you hit each thing I was thinking.
I though the paintings of Carole were beautiful. Adam should have bought one for her.
I felt bad for Dorinda with EZ Pass wearing her pjs and Ramona tearing up her room. Dorinda should take her to Judge Judy.
I would love to have the apartment they showed to Tinsley.
I think Ramona is still grieving her marriage. She has been lying about how well she is doing. I don’t think Ramona is jealous of Bethenny’s money I think she is jealous of the attention Bethenny gets for being a business woman. I don’t like either of these women. I really don’t have sympathy for Bethenny. She didn’t mind Ramona having her head up her ass last year.
Bethenny’s snarky quips don’t make up for the fact that she is a mess and draining to watch. Her problems are always worse than everyone else’s and her accomplishments are always bigger than everyone else.
I think Andy’s close relationship with Bethenny influences this show.
Ramona and Beth are both nasty. Except people find Bethany’s nastiness cute and funny and Ramona’s mental. Depends on your style I guess. I don’t feel sorry for either. Kind of deserve each other.
TT, Ramona states in her blog this week that it was the film crews lights she pulled off of the wall.
True Ramona shines through in that blog. She shows absolutely no remorse for the damage she caused in Dorinda’s house. None. She is an ass.
Watched last night. Jill is bringing what back to the mix? The previews of the rest of the season look interesting. It seems like they are dragging this stuff for so long…..it is exhausting to watch!
All is old news by now.
Ramona is a nasty piece of work, but I don’t think Bethenny’s diagnosis of jealousy is exactly right. (At least not in terms of her wealth/success outside of the show.)
I think this power struggle is purely about the show – it’s slowly dawned on Ramona that she was the MVP for a while, and now she’s not. When all she had to do deal with was whiny Heather and the tall dumb one whose husband cheated online, she (and Sonja) were the heart of the show and great to watch. She practically glassed Kristen, and most viewers stayed on her side because she was the only one with any character. “Turtle time”, “white trash”, and the way she shut down Andy at the reunion all cemented her in everyone’s mind as the one RHONY player who seemed impossible to replace (like LVP on RHOBH, or the felon in Jersey), even to those who couldn’t stand her.
Now Bethenny’s around, Ramona has been demoted to Court Jester. She has no storylines, she’s only there to be mocked as a sloppy drunk, and let’s face it – Sonja does it better. I think her seething rage about Bethenny has developed as she feels more and more edged out on the show, and that’s why she’s systematically working her away around the group in the hope of taking down the Queen B. (And she might just win the war if that is her goal – Bethenny is far more likely to get fed up of the show and quit than Ramona is, although not next season as Bethenny has already said she plans to come back if asked.)
ITA.
Me too, ITA. That is of course, if we believe the storylines are driven by the true personalities and not scripted more than we realize.
@Johnny this is perfect. I agree 100%. Too much MAJOR change in too short a period of time. It’s all out there now.
Off topic a bit. Watching the hearing today and the news analysis Intrigue, Lies, Allegations, Loyalty….The Real HouseHusbands of Washington. Oh the tag lines…….LOL
Interesting take… let me add one more layer.
Season One, Ramona was supposed to be the successful business woman. They used to film her at her office. Wholesale marketing? Religious jewelry (or was that Mario’s?) I know it was a business she started herself, and that when I looked it up on Wikipedia to remember who else was 1st season – her tagline was “I like making my own money, I find that an aphrodisiac.”
I’m sure in Ramona’s mind it should be HER that Bethenny and Sonja, et al come to for advice. SHE should be the one getting a spin off that shows off her amount of money and business acumen.
She’s pissed that Bethenny SMOKED her in terms of business, and probably took comfort in the shit show that became Bethenny’s personal life (that convo on the bridge where she was so blunt and mean – you have no friends!). Then came the Mario shit show. Ooops… sometimes the evil thing you wish for someone does happen to them – then it happens to you.
I checked out Ramona’s home page.. Photo shopped beyond recognition.
I am sure she has been floundering, terribly, since the divorce. It shows. Last season it was the fact she didn’t want to go anywhere unless there were “hot men”… Very sad.
TT. Love ! Love ! And Live ! For your recaps. After watching these past few episodes. It seems ( my opinion) that Ramona is using a common street drug. Beyond bugged eyed & hyper.
Johnny: Very good analysis and think you are right. Ramona used to be what is she is not now! That is why she is so pissed off. Going about gaining back anything is fading. plus turning 60 is getting a bit old for her antics. IMHO
I just want to add for nothing…Bobby looked great. It was good to see that he is looking healthy and happy. That is all.
I don’t know. Is it possible that fight with bethenny and Ramona was fake? I felt like both were about to laugh in the scene and it was edited
Maybe bethenny pre planned she had to leave that night and that fight was for show??
I mean if that was real how can they be cordial anymore and I think they’re friends again..? Isn’t that weird???
And ramonas ultra crazy is just bad acting
I agree with Katherine 2.0. None of us would tolerate this crap in our own lives. It’s all, for the most part, “entertainment” and I’m tired of watching women become mentally unhinged and rip each other apart for entertainment purposes. I’m no longer entertained.
Team Ramona! I was so happy when she gave it to the bitcuh, who snarks out everyone and anyone any chance she gets! So sick of everyone up bethanys ass, what is the deal???? Its about time someone snarks out bethany. She cant take shit. Its so funny she tries to act above it all. Give me a break. You reap what you sow, remember saying that bethany? Remember when you were so concerned about Luann and said that? I guess that applies to you and your failed marriage as well. Please go off onto the sunset flipping houses with Fredrick. Go drown yourself in all your millions.
As to Carole, wow, the paintings of carole are beautiful! Really great works of art and if she doesn’t have one of herself she’s crazy.