A few years ago, there was a show, Mrs. Eastwood and Company that starred Clint Eastwood’s wife (at the time) Dina and their two daughters Francesca and Morgan. It was a trainwreck of a show. Dina had this weird band she was representing and they were living in the house for filming. It was all very odd and fascinating. Francesca was dating a guy named Tyler Shields who was a photographer. More specifically, Tyler was a shock photographer. He was a really creepy guy. On the show he did a shoot with Francesa where she poured gasoline on a $100,000 Birkin bag and lit it on fire. Both Francesca and Tyler received death threats for that. Tyler has continued to shoot very controversial things.
Tyler it seems has hooked up with Kathy Griffin, a comedian who also likes to do things for shock value. I am a fan of Kathy Griffin. I loved her strong black woman comedy routine. I loved Life on the D List. She’s funny. These photos and videos are not funny.
UPDATED. Kathy has taken down the image and issued the above apology.
But what she has done now with this Tyler idiot is not funny and it may well be the end of her career. There are groups of people on the liberal left that are beyond distraught over the current president. I get it. He is saying and doing a lot of disturbing things. My anxiety goes through the roof each day when I check with the news to see what new dangers were are facing. Times are scary for people of all political backgrounds.
But we are all on the same pilotless plane together. I’m going to need to see less histrionics and more calm leadership. I need fewer people thrashing about in their seats screaming that we are all going to die and more stoic flight attendants pretending like things are going to be okay. Most importantly, I need a Captain Sully to appear from somewhere on the plane and make an emergency landing.
Today Kathy and and Tyler are the screaming lunatics on either side of me in a middle seat on a plane without a pilot. This is not helping.
It’s a shame because we could all use some of Kathy’s hilarious humor these days. That would help.
Those are my thoughts. What are yours?
I agree. I love Kathy and all but this is too much and too desperate, even for her.
Wow. Do Arab Americans really need this ? And what about the families who’ve lost their sons and daughters that way? This is just thoughtless, insensitive, self centered attention seeker.
I’m sick and tired Kathy G.
As an Arab American, I truly appreciate your comment, Denise. My family’s homeland has been completely torn apart and it seems the terrorists are the ones in control. I’m thankful my grandparents are no longer around to see what has happened to their beloved countries…
They both need to ruined financially. Some very mentally disturbed individuals that just happen to associate themselves with our Democratic Party, This is not comedy – this is not shock – this is an act of pure HATE. These are two very mentally disturbed people that give a valid argument for reopening the state mental institutions of the past. What kind of homes did these people come from ??? What ethics did the parents instill in these sick individuals ? Tyler joked that he hoped they would let him visit Kathy in Guantanamo after this stunt and Kathy said they would both be in federal prison. It is better we keep them here and watch them go penniless and wither before our eyes.. ANYONE that would give either of these people money should be considered united in their act of pure HATE !!!
WOW and JHC! How ’bout you tell us how you really feel, Scott.
I am one of those, just because you have the right to do it does not mean it is the right thing to do type of people. While it was a very long right years for me, I respected the office and would never dream of doing something violent like that. I have always enjoyed Kathy and her comedy, but this is a no go for me.
*eight*
Bravo!
Definitely too far, and I can’t stand that man. She should lose her NYE job at CNN, which from what I’ve seen is her only stream of TV income. It would be inappropriate for the network to bring her back.
She did lose her job..as she should have
Not surprised, like her even less than I already did.
When first seeing this, naturally I thought, will TT post her thoughts. I’m a fan as well of Kathy Griffin, remember that Eastwood show, but do not recall the photographer. I don’t see any need for the picture, and have plenty to fear without things like this from people like her. Timing is bad, and I just can’t see what the benefit is except for upsetting those currently upset.
I have tried and tried to like Kathy G. I liked Life on the D List. But she carries things too far. So much so that I just couldn’t handle her anymore. Not surprised to see she is doing this for attention
The little devil on one shoulder is currently beating the daylights out of the angel on the other. It is never OK to stay silent during times of oppression. We are collectively reacting to having ano ignorant bully as our leader. Kathy has a right to express herself, take or leave it. Who will ban her next, CNN, lol?
How would you have felt if someone had done this using Obama’s head?
They did! There were many, many vicious and racist insults leveled at the former president. So have a seat, justanothermary.
Yes. There were a lot of disgusting things said about Obama and yes people burned his image in effigy. It was disgusting then and it’s disgusting now. The. Iggest difference is she is a “celebrity” who should know better. Those that were freaking out over President Obama were scum bag nobodies who hate for hates sake..they are NOT representative of those of us who are republicans. Frankly, they should have been prosecuted as well.
Another Republican with a short memory. You seem to forget some of the most appalling things about Obama were said by our current president. He was certainly a celebrity of at least Ms. Griffin’s magnitude, hardly a nobody.
What is different, though, is Trump has not been given a chance to govern. He is being besieged on all sides. Obama was given a chance to govern and a huge amount of support. All sides came together to wish him well and support his beginning days.
The same cannot be said here- heck, newscasters cried on election night. Others started attacking, the outgoing administration and its department heads started accusing him,before they left office. They changed laws and shared confidential information about the incoming administration, raising questions about them and their activities, in ways that were previously illegal, in order to set them up as they arrived. Had it happened when Obama arrived, we’d have never heard the end of it.
There has not been a period when Trump could get his administration together- the leaks and lies started on hour one. And they continue There has never been such an overall apparent assault on a presidency and a planned attack from hour one.
Nor has there been a recently retired president who returned to live in DC for the express purpose of bringing down his successor, as Obama has openly declared. he and his people set Trump up on so many levels- and continue to each day.
No one is perfect here. Everyone has made mistakes. Trump is certainly not. But he is our president now we all need him to succeed. Which is why anyone who attempts to hurt him is hurting al of us.
The truth on all of this lies in the middle some where- but what is true is that many are so emotional they cannot look at any of it with a modicum of fairness or open critical thinking. They start with a bias so substantial they are unwilling to open their eyes and consider the sources of their information and whether they might have a reason to say what they say. This is true on both sides. Everyone involved- every American who cares- needs to rethink it from these standpoints. And I think that means most of us , myself included.
Maybe Kathy’s hatred laced ugliness can give us all the jumpstart we need.
He’s gotten most of his administrative picks, if not all. Certainly there has been opposition in Congress from Democrats and a few independents about the demolition of the ACA. THAT IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. New legislation should be debated for months, not hours! Heard Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman don’t forget, speak very eloquently on this and other problems (not just with the current administration, but Congress as well.)
You mention “hour one”. The problem is that he should have had his administration put together BEFORE hour one. That is what the President Elect is SUPPOSED to do. Every candidate previous to this – the Bushes, the Clintons, Reagan, and so on, probably had people in mind before they even won! THAT was his chance! And there WAS opposition to Obama – lets not look at the past with rose colored glasses, or think that this President has been treated the “worst of all time”. His poor me attitude is unbecoming of a president. While I appreciate it greatly when my government officials have business experience, Government is NOT a business. You cannot refuse service to your constituents when they piss you off, nor can you declare bankruptcy in order to screw over your subcontractors.
This is going off topic – but I had to type something. Just because Kathy’s photo was wrong doesn’t mean the President is right. She is reaping the consequences, as she has been fired from CNN and is losing ticket sales. The President is reaping what he sowed as well – he was part of that vitriol towards Obama. If Obama had been white with a father from Iceland, no one would have questioned his birth status.
Thank you for your comment, I agree with you.
Sorry but you’re incorrect. All within the first four months from election through February after his inauguration, President Obama had his name scrawled across buildings with the n-word, black churches were torched, likenesses of him were hung by nooses from trees and in school stairwells, to name just a few things. Where in there did he “get the chance to govern”?
I love Kathy Griffin because she’s not afraid to say what she means. I absolutely think she went too far. But to say that it’s different because it’s one party or the other is ludicrous. It’s humanity.
Erica, I agree with you completely. We are living in scary times. I almost cringe every morning when I look at the news, it’s such a feeling of helplessness. I truly hope this man gets impeached before he does something irrevocable.
Never once did an actress do such vile things regarding Obama. Not at all the same. Nothing comparable and it can’t be justified.
Well, alrighty then. I guess this discussion is now closed. Heh heh!
No?…. look up Ted Nugent. Short memories or simply selective.
go to hell
I’m not a fan at all of Trump. I do enjoy Kathy. I believe in giving a comedian quite a lot passes it is comedy after all and people take things way to serious. This is not one of those times. The joke has gone way to far. I understand everyone does not care for every President. I understand completely cause I can’t stand behind a lot of what Trump is trying to ‘sell’ us but there is a certain amount of respect afforded to our President. Obviously Trump never gave that same respect to Obama and on many times lead attacks on his character which were equally deplorable and definitely not becoming of the future President. That being said this is the hand we’ve been dealt. I do not think disrespectful behavior towards our leader will promote anything positive from other countries. I’m completely ok with ribbing him in all the right spots but threats of death are off the table.
There were MANY people who were distraught when Obama was elected. The attitude at the time was, ” the people have spoken, sit down and shut up”. If you voiced any opposition to him you were labeled a racist and a bigot, as though the only reason To dislike or disagree with him was racially motivated not policy based. In any event, if a Conservative had done this to Obama, I cannot begin to imagine the backlash! Pitchforks and torches as far as the eye can see! Look at what happened to Tim Allen for speaking out. I just find this behavior disgusting, regardless of which side you are on. This kind of childish, mean spirited, disrespectful behavior should not be tolerated. A very dangerous precedent is being set his for what is acceptable treatment for POTUS.
Short memory, much? You seem to forget the burning of Obama effigies that went on for weeks.
Exactly, which is why I’m scared of BOTH sides. As far as I can tell, I see no difference on either side. Both sides are bullies.
Every president for the last 30 years has been burned in effigy. Its all very disrespectful. What’s been going on with Trump is unprecedented.
What is unprecedented (or presidented as he would say)? Trump’s criticisms are self-inflicted. No other president has been so grossly incompetent, insecure, or flagrantly self-interested. That said, what Kathy did was wrong.
Ill partially agree with you. if the media hadn’t gone full off the rails with so many daily non/false stories (russisn dossier being the most egregious and the melania handslap being most ridiculous), I’d be in full agreement.
Lol. No one except Obozo. Now thats incompetence.
I believe Obama was and that Hillary definitely would have been, equally as incompetent and self serving.
so 2 rights make a wrong?
That’s a reach, don’t hurt yourself.
OP said if someone did something similar to Obama, she “can’t imagine” the backlash. I pointed out that something very similar did in fact happen when Obama took office. That comment doesn’t make any point about the rights or wrongs of either – it simply points out that both things happened.
Weeks???? You mean years.
Well said. We agree completely.
They did do this to Pres Obama. They hung him on a noose! Look it up!
Not some high profile celebrity. If any celebrity did anything like that to Obama they would be fired from life.
Nugent was celebrated when he basically begged someone to assassinate President Obama. James Woods still gets jobs even though he has called President Obama, among other things, “an abomination”. Chuck Norris made wild accusations of Obama committing “treason” (with no details other than “how people were treated in Iran”).
Don’t forget the one reality TV celebrities of the most consistently racist, spreader of fake news that was was grabbed onto by every alt right, neo Nazi White Supremacists like it was manna from heaven. We have YEARS of tweets about Obama from this person.
President Trump himself.
I’ve always pretty much liked her. Love her routines talking about her mother. But I think this has gone WAY too far. This is an image associated with terrorists and shouldn’t have been done.
I find this absolutely horrifying & disgusting. I hope other comedians speak out against what she has done even if they too, are against Trump politically. I too, wish Trump had not won the election, but this is just too far.
I didn’t like either candidate for president and haven’t liked any of the choices for almost as long as I can remember. That being said, I have always respected the office and never thought poking fun or denigrating the office or president was the right thing to do. The division in this nation is what will be our undoing. Other countries band together in unity and all we do is choose sides, point fingers and blame the other side. I actually had someone tell me in all seriousness that the conservative media were the only ones reporting the truth. I nearly spit out my drink. Someone earlier had just told me the other side was the only outlet broadcasting the truth. Same people on the opposite sides of the same damn coin. Only they can’t see it so the rest of us are fucked because of it. Kathy went way too far but unfortunately I fear we will see worse as time goes on and with lots of cosigners.
Considering ISIS has killed many innocents in this manner, it’s absolutely revolting. I used to like her show Life on the D list but her New Year’s Eve show with Anderson Cooper just makes me uncomfortable. She spends the whole time doing the most to embarrass and make Cooper blush. It’s gotten obnoxious much like this beheading stunt. This is NEVER something to mock. Just ask Daniel’s Pearl’s widow and hundreds of other family members who have lost loved ones to this horrific act.
Margaret: Outstanding post!
I didn’t even think about that aspect of it but you’re completely right. And in light of all the terrorist acts – another one today – in Egypt, I think…
I adore the CNN bit (but because I’ve always been a big fan of both KG and AC, I know that there is a good friendship behind it all.
But, honestly, your reminder of Daniel Pearl sobered me right up.
I will also say there is no need to go this far in provoking Trump, when the silliest little things get under his skin already (he did a cease and desist to Berke Breathed for God’s sake!)
You raise some excellent points and I’ll comment in a minute but may I say, first, that any time one is wishing death ,or injury, or bringing death into the conversation while mocking someone, it must stop. And it is wrong. This has all gone way too far.
There is nothing funny about death or violence no matter what you think is right or wrong or who you prefer in anything. We should be able to agree or disagree without bringing violence into the discussion, and wishing injury, or pretending to. Whatever they will use to justify this-it is WRONG.
I think this will end Kathy’s career, and it should. People on some sides have lost all sense of boundaries, and believe they are allowed to say anything, and act any way they choose, at any time. Now they also believe others can’t do the same, but they can, because they are smarter, superior, better. Nonsense.
No one side is better than the other. Nor is any individual better than another. No matter how much they choose to believe otherwise.
I don’t know anyone who isn’t concerned and frustrated now, for many reasons. Some are well informed, some more afraid than informed, some both. We’re all threatened because to me, the most basic cause now is there are so many people not telling the truth, trying to get their side up in arms, and people are believing their lies. Many want to yell and believe if they say it the most and loudest, they’ll win the battle/be believed.
Meanwhile, the historical sources of news for many, TV and papers, can not be counted on. AS a matter of fact, we make a point, in our house, to check three sources/channels on any topic we want to be sure we understand.
What we have been dismayed to learn is that even WHAT IS TRUE is very much in question. Listen to CNN,FOX and a third channel on topics. See how consistently they cover any story, and how many times what is presented as The Truth is in fact someone’s opinion, changed into being presented as the facts subtly, or changing the interpretation of the facts and their implications, if not the facts themselves.
It’s been clearly proven that the majority of us are looking for news that agrees with our assessment of certain situations in the world, and builds on them. It is believed that we end up choosing our favorites from r those that agree with us more often. t
I hear politicians on both sides of the aisle say what they want to say, lie directly to our faces, as they push their points , their interpretations, and want us to believe only those.
I believe there is a difference between good and bad, and the truth is the truth, not someone’s interpretation of it .
The yelling needs to stop . We need facts not blowhards with microphones and half truths. We need to get back to basics, and stop attacking people.
America has many issues we can tackle that do not require revving people up with lies and half truths to the point where they threaten/joke/lie/mimic murder. Let’s aim to find more in common ,more truths we share, and less emotional hostility. We can focus collectively-ok, agree to disagree about style, but let’s make some progress, and keep our perspective.
The truth is we are blessed as a country and should find the good in it and build on it. Not pull each other and the country apart .
Awesomely stated, Sabrina and so much better than I could ever articulate.
Can you do a recap of Sabrina’s post? Ain’t nobody got time for all that.
Both sides are lying and we need to stay away from all the hype, get our news from a variety of sources. Both sides need to work together.
Amen to that Peach. Both sides AND the media are acting like damn fools. No matter how we feel we are in this together. We need to unite for the good of our country.
There is still so much good out there and it is all getting lost in all of this rabble rousing. IT is deplorable. I am sick of what is happening and sicker that we are being divided more and more.
Exactly. Give me some Cliff Notes.
That’s what I was thinking TT
TT you crack me up.
I agree with you Sabrina. And I believe freedom of speech in this country has gone too far. Respect for each other should be just as important. News is ruled by ratings not truth. It’s all very sad to me. But I hope for the best and do what I can. But destructive behavior helps no one. K Griffin is just nuts. Her poor judgement proves it. I cannot even comprehend how a beheading could somehow be part of anything comedic. It’s like she was agreeing with the horrible actions of isis. As disagreeable as alot of Trump’s behavior is, the left, democrats, or liberals, are proving themselves just as bad, if not worse.
Truest quote I’ve read in a long while: News is ruled by ratings not truth.
Well said GaPeach. I haven’t had a candidate I fully supported in many years. But I respect the office! It breaks my heart to see what is happening to our country today.
My heart breaks too, MariettaMommy. This isn’t the same world we were born into. Everything is accelerating and it’s hard to hold on. We can do it though. We’re gonna do it and we’ll be OK.
Truer words never spoken, gapeachinsc!! Such a different world and one sometimes which often feels too much to perceive. But we can get through it because I think we are actually a lot stronger than we realize. Just never been tested quite like this. Good thoughts to all.
Yes! Yes! Yes! See? We’re doing it already!! This is what we need! The tests are strong but so are we!!!
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I think she is exacting a little payback for the way the right treated President Obama. I don’t condone tit-for-tat, but am not outraged….
Disgusting D list post for attention.
To what purpose does this serve?
She went to visit our Troops overseas in the ME as part of the USO.
ISIS is beheading people online live action and this comedian thinks it’s funny to behead our POTUS.
She crossed the red line of humor. Because, it’s not funny.
She won’t be fired from CNN, Anderson Cooper and her are buddies. She will show up as a guest on the View and Bill Mahr show because of this stunt.
SMH .. she’s desperate for attention. Tix sales must be hurting.
Well you got that one wrong….
I just think it’s an extremely calculated publicity stunt by two individuals of questionable talent who can only maintain their profile through controversy, and I just can’t give enough energy to that to actually feel offended. An eyeroll is about as much emotion as I can muster.
I think it has to be seen in the context of the people who burned effigies of Obama eight years ago. There were a few arrests, perhaps a few court hearings (I don’t recall), but ultimately most of us just recognized it as a stunt and ignored it. I think the suggestion she should lose her job(s) for being crass and tasteless is a giant overreaction when you consider the things Trump has said about women’s bodies – if he can talk the way he does and be President, I’m sure her poor judgment won’t get in the way of her reading a teleprompter on NYE.
It’s not like they stay in obscurity after getting fired, anyway. Celebs are like cockroaches, they keep coming back – even Billy Bush says he’s returning to TV after barely six months!
I find the imagery above disturbing but I have to agree with you 100%. It’s neither an attempt at art or comedy, it’s just a stunt.
ITA and really enjoyed your comment regarding celebs and cockroaches. Guffaw!
I simply felt that maybe due to my age and years I was raised, you cannot cross a certain line regarding the president. It was a unspoken rule. Freedom of speech was to always be honored, but a display to behead the president,? No, not appropriate or okay. Maybe that’s too simple perhaps? But my truth for almost 58 years. Attention maybe has become so important, rules changed. Hmm. (And yes Kathleen jimeenez, this is what terrorists do, behead)
Kathleen jimeenez, to be clear, I mean that there is nothing but terror when seeing and thinking of all the innocents and the horror of beheadings. It’s undoubtedly what shocks us all.
I used to think she was very funny – especially enjoyed D List – but this is inexcusable. Nothing about ISIS and beheadings is humorous. The liberal left’s behavior is out of control.
I never supported Obama, but once he was elected I wished for his (our) success and acknowledged the respect the office of Presidency deserves. Give Trump a chance. Look at the stock market performance and imagine what this country will be like with massive growth in jobs and less waste of tax dollars. If his agenda wins, we all do.
I beleive you need to give credit where it is due. The stock market was at about 8000 pits when OBama got into office and when he left 20000.
People consistently and conveniently overlook this fact, as if Trump is some sort of stock market fairy. Businesses are excited about massive deregulation? Well, no shit.
Totally agree with you. I was a big Kathy Griffin fan. Watched her show with her mom and all her HBO specials. But this kind of insane self-righteousness is nauseating. It is not helpful. Moreover, it is arrogant, destructive and disgusting. As one pundit called it: “Political porn to get attention. And she succeeded.”
Never a fan of Kathy and this is another ploy for attention in a most inappropriate way.
Not any worse than what Nugent has said about Obama and back then the right wing nuts argued that it’s free speech . El Trumpo opens himself to this kind of thing because he acts like a clown and attacks everyone and shows zero decorum. Trump is the one disrespecting the office way before Kathy did .
Nugent is a vile, disgusting individual I hesitate to call human.
But “Melinda did it, and her mom didn’t have a problem with it!” kind of excuse didn’t fly with my mom when I was a kid, and it didn’t fly with me when I was a teacher. (Would catch some little asshole cheating or passing a note – they’d say “But Fred just passed a note too!”. My response was always something along the lines of “Well, that wasn’t ok either but you are the sad sack who got caught. Suck it up.”
Often the “problems I had with Obama” from the Republican side often did boil down to racism. Fuck… my good friend, a Republican, often called that shit out in person and online. He saw it, and knew quite clearly that many had issues with a Black man being in charge of the White House.
But here is the thing – because of that, I really trust his opinions and listen deeply when we talk politics and issues. I like to think he does the same. It is something we need to do on a national level. Every liberal maybe shouldn’t call for the destruction of her career, etc…. but we should be saying “It is not ok”.
Remember when Jeff Dunham introduced us to Achmed the dead terrorist? Dunham humanized a terrorist. It was a little scary to watch but we learned to laugh at Achmed. We laugh at what we fear. Kathy Griffin would have been better served to just let Trump write her routine for her, just string together quotes from his tweets.
“Premature detonation!” Still watch and laugh any time it comes on.
I am not a Trump fan, I don’t hate everything he is doing I just don’t like the way he is handling himself. That being said, I am no Hillary fan either. I truly believe that we would be just as polarized and in a bad spot but in a different way if she was elected. However, our President is our President. I am all for freedom of speech and for everyone expressing themselves creatively in many ways. But there has got to be limitations in all things. If we all went around just doing and saying whatever the hell we wanted whenever we wanted then bedlam would be the order of the day.
This goes way to far. This isn’t funny. I don’t think it’s “art” when people stick the crucifix in the toilet and I don’t think that his is humorous. In all walks there has to be lines that we don’t cross. I wouldn’t find it funny no matter whose head this was if they were our president. People are going way to far and off the deep end with all this stuff. We are going to destroy ourselves never mind be worried about anyone else.
This is just the opposite of funny ….it’s so so sad.
I can recall the Eastwood reality show with Dina managing a singing group from South Africa. Clint was on a couple of times and was very camera shy…that is when I knew the show wouldn’t last. On the show Tyler was a smarmy and icky dude. Kathy who I happen to love will always have work doing her stand up act. What she did was deplorable and certainly didn’t help our country’s sad divide.
You sincerely think world leaders would be laughing in Hillary’s face, and she would be a treasonist colluding with Russia? That she would be actively financially benefiting from betraying her own country? Even if she wanted to – Hilary wouldn’t get away with a FRACTION of the shit Trump has been able to. I just don’t get it.
Not saying this relating to you, but I can’t believe the very people screaming lock her up because of emails being kept on a private server are now trying to turn a blind eye to an American president working hand in hand, and being funded by, the dictator terrorist Putin.
Two words… Clinton Foundation.
Two More Words Trump Foundation
They don’t want to hear those two words. In their eyes, Hilary can do no wrong. her husband is a pig, no one has had problems with him but I guess Trump is the biggest pig of them all??? SMH. I just don’t get it. She’s gotten tons of free passes over the years, and her husband continues to get free passes. Yeah, she’s all for us women all right, as long as her husband is chasing other women and leaving her alone.
She’s gotten tons of free passes over the years? What the fuck are you smoking, lady?
She’s the most criticized, vilified, and investigated public figure of our time.
Yet she keeps getting back up, knowing full well all the shit she’s gonna get for doing so.
I think those “free passes” you refer to are actually examples of her strength and resilience, two of many reasons she inspires so many.
We can go round and round about this all day Eric. She does not give a shit about women’s rights period. You asked me one time how I would feel being interviewed based on my husbands track record. I hope you read my reply because I never would have stood next to a man who scandalized the white house cause he couldn’t keep his dick (or a cigar) in his pants. He ranted on television about how he didn’t have sexual relations with that woman…no, only his cigar did. Women came out of the wood work pointing their fingers at him. I wouldn’t have stayed with a man like that but she obviously has no issue with his behavior. “Birds of a feather…”
BTW, do you EVER have anything pleasant to say around here?
Clinton Foundation? You mean the organization which provides HIV/AIDS medication to millions of people worldwide? Which trains people in poor nations to become self-supporting for the first time in their lives? That Clinton Foundation?
Or are you referring to some organization that exists in the imaginations of Right Wing propagandists and the morons who swallow their bullshit unquestioningly?
You have to laugh when they bring up the Clinton Foundation, like the Trump University scandal and the shady pay-off isn’t the worst example of justice involving any American politician in the last three decades.
And Eric, YOU must be high if you think I’m a Trump supporter. I see both sides while it appears to me that too many Americans these days only see one side. Feel free to never comment back to me again.
GaPeach I know I’ve told you many times how much I appreciate your thoughtful articulate posts. But WOW, there are times you just knock it right out of the park, like this! ????????
Kathy removed the images I have added the apology she just gave to the posts.
She looks totally drained in that video. Guess things didn’t go as planned. I am glad she took it down and apologized. Or at least pretended she was sorry.
I couldn’t even look at the apology but I hope she was drained. Perhaps she learned something important. I sure hope so.
I am guessing that comments from Chelsea Clinton and a few others brought her up short.
However, the cynical side of me thinks, gosh, now you got even MORE attention for pulling the video.
Sorry, but the words I heard her articulate were about realizing her comedy fell on deaf ears, and that it wasn’t well received. Not that she was wrong and had rethought it.
Her pale look without makeup was more of the artful craft, if you ask me- intentional , to imply she was upset about this.
She isn’t, except for how it might impact her income levels. Sorry, we saw video of her planning every aspect of this- she was part of all the planning . This was carefully thought out and she played a key role in it.
And it is wrong for anyone to think this is acceptable. As someone above said, if ISIS is doing it, we should be opposing it at every turn, That she and many of her peers are so angry and desensitized, to not realize how evil it is to implicitly threaten our president with beheading, is a reflection of how far afield we have come as a nation, and is a clear signal we need to stop or openly disagree much more often with this ugliness.
I hate our current POTUS. That said, this is beyond disgusting. I can’t imagine the widow or parents of Daniel Pearl would find this “artistic” or give two shits about KG’s free speech.
While I am happy that Kathy took the crap down and apologized, I read on her social media about her selecting the stuff to make the mas with. It was clear from what I read that she was part of the planning and carrying out of the photography project. It wasn’t something done in a day.
I have done a lot of stupid shit I’ve had to apologize for in my life. Most of those times I was reacting to a situation I felt hurt by and lashed out in anger. Or I just said something stupid that I didn’t realize was stupid. My mouth gets me in a lot of trouble particularly if I have been drinking.
This situation was an orchestrated plan over several days. It was not a stupid decision in the heat of the moment. That is the worst part of it for me.
That said, I hope she doesn’t get fired from CNN. I love her NYE show with Cooper. There are a lot of people trying to refund tix for her comedy tour she is on now though. This is going to hit her in the pocket book.
I wonder what they are going to do on NYE now. It can’t be Kelly, although I do enjoy her banter with Anderson just as much if not more. (But seriously, no one will ever have the guts that KG had for NYE. Even my mom laughed when KG screamed at a heckler down below that doesn’t come to his work to knock the dicks out of his mouth, so he should stop interrupting their work. I paraphrase, but so. damn. funny. and quick!)
I have been wondering, whenever I see this topic online, what Joan Rivers would be telling her right now.
I don’t understand how a woman who has an incredible history supporting our troops at home and abroad as well as raising countless thousands of dollars for therapy dogs for veterans would think that this was even close to a good idea.
I know for a fact that I am a wuss – When I watched Kathy – I couldn’t figure out why she was planning this photo shoot, is she planning to put it on her website/T-shirts/cups, clearly it was not for a company or anything promotional.
Then my heart did sink – I thought of him as a dad and grandpa, his kids see this – I know they are almost all adult age, but how do you explain this to a child.
Then I remembered watching the news, and looking at terrorists killing the military. The families of that military person, the pain – this totally disrespected them. I don’t know the goal that Kathy had in mind but I am glad that she did apologize, the world is taking a chunk outta her butt, and she knows she deserves it.
I refuse to be roped into the faux outrage. America is great despite all our faults BECAUSE of our first amendment rights – much to the disappointment of Trump who has made his requests public to punish protestors and “dissenting” journalists.
After decades of attempting to infiltrate America, our greatest enemy has succeeded by going for the very top. How anyone can waste outrage on this while our very way of life is much at stake is beyond me. If this was even 30 years ago Trump would be hanging from the capital for his treason.
Your comment wraps it all up tightly and succinctly. There are far more important issues than Kathy Griffin going on in this country. Or for a ridiculous unfinished midnight tweet with a typo. Treason, collusion, climate change, impeachment, profiteering, embarrassing and humiliating behavior on an international level and the list goes on.
Amen!
Please let’s not blame the entire liberal left for the attention seeking and potentially criminal behavior of a Comedian and photographer.
What she posted was disgustingly disturbing and she should have known better.
OMG, the photographer was that little fucker??? i TOTALLY remember that asswipe and couldn’t believe Clint didn’t deal with that punk.
I’ve been a big Kathy fan for years. Saw her in Vegas and it was fantastic. Her insight on stuff (especially the Vegas stuff) was spot on. Love her work ethic, her care towards her mother and dogs, and her support of the troops, which was something I could point to as a liberal as a positive example of supporting the military AND being liberal (and more military people are liberal than you think…) I have laughed myself silly with her and “Andy Cooper”, and what made me cry when Joan Rivers died was KG going on Anderson’s show to talk about Joan’s impact and power as a comedian, and what Joan meant to her. Not what she said in her prepared comments, but at the end, when she was done, and her chin quivered… only to have Anderson say right before they went to commercial “You did good honey”.
But this? Kathy made a major mistake. It is up to comedians to push the boundaries, but this wasn’t helpful. It muddies the waters. I made comments above about how much of was said about Obama WAS because he is black. I won’t repeat it. But we need comedians to do that balance between doing what Johnson said about the Smothers Brothers and still respecting the office. The assassination of our president is no joke.
Having said all that – in the picture she’s wearing a pussy bow shirt. Nice touch.
I wonder if Andy Cooper gave her any advice prior to posting the pic. He is known for his decorum but also for his sense of humor. I think he would have nixed this idea. I like Kathy, always have. Hate Trump, always have. I think her career will survive. She’s never been known to be PC with her core fans.
Per the 11p.m. News in L.A., Cancellations are being considered for her stand up (just one for sure in Arizona), CNN is rethinking their relationship, and her as campaign for Squatty Potty has been cancelled.
That last one sounds like a favor, but would be good money and connections via Lori Grenier and QVC.
They thankfully cut off the head when showing this, then showed part of her apology.
I have a soft spot for Kathy Griffin. When my beloved husband collapsed & died on the morning of St. Patrick’s Day 6 years ago my daughter, granddaughter & her daughters congregated at my house. We weren’t sure what to do, what we were supposed to do, but I made English muffin pizzas & we watched a Kathy Griffin marathaon. We ate, we laughed harder than we expected, & we got through the night.
I believe in free speech & in the necessity of a free press & the role of comedy in a free nation. That said, Tyler is a real sleeze who doesn’t care about hurting people. When I watched him on Mrs. Eastwood he reminded me of a marauding bachelor on Meerkat Manor who was cutting out a young mate from a decent family. He is a loose cannon & I am sorry Kathy got mixed up with him because he can only hurt her, personally & professionally. The photo did no damage to Trump–what he has done to himself & our country is beyond the pale, & he deserves more derision than what any comedian (& nutso photographer) can dish out.
Belated condolences on your husband’s passing.
I can appreciate the beauty of laughter through grief like that. The night my grandmother finally passed, I remember sitting on the couch with my grandfather, laughing at the prime time tv shows on that night.
The only problem now – I think it was the Cosby Show, dammit.
The apology. Realizing she has just damaged her career and doing spin control. Some bells you simply cannot un ring. Forgiveness will happen by some, but this will not be forgotten.
Everything’s forgotten. We have a tiny attention span. She’ll resurface.
As for this dumb stunt, she just gave the Hannitys of the world a liberal poster child.
I disagree, respectfully. Some will forget, but not all. She will lose some fans. She will gain some fans. But the path her career was on is changed forever. CNN has fired her. Even Squatty Potty has cut ties with her ( and that was a brilliant marketing campaign). At this point, I am neither a fan or a hater. Her apology didn’t win me over. Nor did I think it completely insincere. I am disturbed and disappointed with her decision that led to this truly heinous lapse in good judgement, and sad at the consequences that will and are already occurring. Her mother must be struggling. Kathy is Maggie’s child, and there is truly unconditional love there, but it’s a lot for a woman in her 90s to comprehend (joke, political statement however you want to label it- it was simply wrong).
And as for being a liberal poster child- she served herself up on a silver platter….
Paula Dean.
And, to your last sentence: I agree. She just threw them red meat to feast on for years.
Not sure where we disagree here.
Just that everything is forgotten. You and I seem to be on the same page. I now get your sarcastic point that society forgets everything/ they don’t! At least not the ones with brains!
I’m in the minority that doesn’t find it offensive. She is a shock comedian, in my opinion. She says and does things for this reaction. I doubt her career is over, considering most of her fans are definitely not Trump supporters. I do think the pic was a bit gory, but the sentiment is not lost on me.
She’s a comedian, this is what they do! They say and do the things WE are afraid to say and/or do. I like her! I love Sarah Silverman more!
I’m proud to live in a country with First Amendment rights. That being said, what Kathy did was in extremely poor taste and I am a fan of her. I wish her good luck in dealing with all the negative press convfete that will now haunt her career.
negative press convfete HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA brilliant!
Kathy is about as funny as Chelsea Handler and Amy Schumer. Not. All bitter, unmarried and childless(thank goodness).
Oops, I forgot Sarah Silverman. Another head case
Bitter because they are unmarried and childless? Are you fucking kidding me? My single, childless friends are the happiest women I know. 😉
So Betty- being unmarried and not having kids makes these women “less than”? This is the dumbest fucking antiquated crap I will read today. Just out of curiosity…..are you really a dude?
If you aren’t a dude, blink twice if you need help.
Or if your name is Melania….
What an asshole comment.
Oh thank god you are here to remind the women of the world that we are only worthy if we are married and have children. Because a women could never be fulfilled being single and childless.
Ouch and Dayum on the childless (SMH)!
If I were feeling nice and intellectual, I might quote Gloria Steinem’s response when asked if she would have children. “Everybody with a womb doesn’t have to have a child any more than everybody with vocal cords has to be an opera singer.”
But I’m feeling more like Helen Mirren’s response when asked about her childless state.
“FUCK OFF”
Where was all this outrage when folks put noose around President Obama’s neck??? Wasn’t that also taking it TOO far and flat out disgusting?
I’m just getting caught up on all of this. TMZ is reporting a bullshit story about Baron seeing the photo on TV and freaking out. I don’t imagine that Barron was watching anything this would be on and he is smart enough to know that it wasn’t real. I do think he probably did eventually see the photo and may be traumatized but TMZ is not in the White House or wherever Milania and Barron are stored to have such a sappy description.
I also think Trumps grandkids have see it by now and that sucks.
Anderson Cooper STRONGLY condemned Kathy for the imagery.
And TMZ continues to plaster the photos all over the site. Like A LOT.
Kathy Griffin is taking a huge hit with this.
But there was something I found hilarious. Kathy had just started an ad campaign with Squatty Potty. They have pulled their ads because Kathy does not represent the core values of SQUATTY POTTY.
I mean, really? I think she is perfect for squatty potty.
I heard about Barron being upset. (Pause for deep breath).He is 11 with 2 parents. No one ever briefed him about his father? Not before the election? If they had not warned him about this, they are greatly amiss. Time for a short, to the point talk.
Sheesh.
OH Fuck.
She’s fired from CNN. I love that NYE Show. Dayum. Some places are cancelling her shows. Al Franken had an engagement with her coming up. He seemed to say on The View that he was still going to do it. But he is getting a lot of pressure to cancel.
I feel bad for Kathy. She fucked up BAD. But this is probably then end for her. I’m worried about her being able to handle all of this.
I liked her years ago.. THe Grannie Annie thing was funny… CNN made their choice. SOrry for her.. What’s next?
I don’t think her career is over. As long as she can make me laugh I will still watch her comedy specials. She can still tour. I hate what she did but…laughter is like a medicine. Who is really going to ban her shows? People who wouldn’t go see it in the first place. I would still watch her specials and I am a republican.
I’m really shocked by her behavior but I guess equally shocked by the fact that maybe it happened and I don’t remember, but I genuinely do not recall nearly as much outrage over the gross misrepresentation of Obabama’s personal character and extremely negative responses made towards him. Many of which were made by current President Trump. I don’t condone what Kathy did but as they say Karma. The sad part is that the attacks on Obama were to someone who seems to actually be a genuinely nice person. Not that such acts are ok against jerks either but to put it in perspective you can almost understand someone being mean to a jerk but to be so cruel to Obama just because he won the Presidency and you don’t want him there in ludicrous. My point is even people like me who loathe every thing he stands for will stand up for an injustice against him but where were all the people doing that for Obama. All of out Presidents deserve respect for the office whether you like them or not. It’s a hard job we expect for them to do their best. To all the comedians, talk show hosts, actors and professional athletes you are whether you like it or not public figures and have a responsibility to your craft to act in a way that is professional. People hang on your words and actions therefore they have power.
Pathetically trying to stay relevant. Grasping at straws for attention. What an embarrassment.
The left have done nothing but riot and act in the most “deplorable” ways possible since he has been elected. I don’t want to argue about it because people are biased towards their party. No, no celeb EVER took a pic with a bloody decapitated head of Obama. #neverhappened you can say things they said that were deplorable or cartoons but then again, ha, so can I with the left….plus the left always get violent at protest. The media/celebs encourage it. Remember that girls hair that was caught on fire by some punk at a rally? And I remember how Kathy went after Sarah Palins special needs child. I love Kathy’s comedy specials but this really was too far.
Please do not confuse anarchist who plan violent actions and vandalism at protests to disrupt and further choas as the left always get violent at protests.
And you want to discuss “deplorable” acts, why did it take Trump 3 days and only under great pressure to make a statement about the murders in OR, where is Trumps statement about the attack in Canada, the reorganizing and new chapters of the KKK. Heck his cabinet is a list of “deplorables”
Liberals riot? Where are people getting this shit? Oh, that’s right. Fake news.
I remember watching an old man curb stomp a lesbian at a Tea Party rally. Trufax. This cherry picking bullshit is getting super old and this comment section is a dumpster fire.
On January 21st, 2017, an estimated 5 million people worldwide marched in various locations, including half a million people in Washington DC alone. There wasn’t a single report of a riot, or intentional act of vandalism. I think it is safe to say that all those pussies were liberal.
Hell, it was safe enough in DC for my cousin to take her 4 month old and her mother to the march!
Haha Kathy has been fired from CNN. But at least Kathy is funnier than Amy Schumer.
Now Kathy has some new stand up material…like “so these Secret Service agents arrived at my house and I was wondering if I should show them the head in my basement or what, maybe just secretly serve them in my living room but they said no a public apology will do. I told them I’m more my famous for my head jobs, but okay.”
I think Amy Schumer is hilarious. I don’t have to agree with their politics to like their jokes. I just thought what Kathy did was too close to home because that really is happening all over the world. Keep it light and funny Kathy..lol “what’s ben and jen doing? divorced?” #gossipqueen
Guest Appearance-now THAT joke you said will be funny if she uses it with a big mea culpa in a few months )???
Kathy has done a lot of shows for out troops. This is going to break her heart.
WASHINGTON — “The Veterans of Foreign Wars of the U.S. strongly condemns comedian Kathy Griffin’s incredibly revolting attack on the President of the United States. Her apology is not accepted. What she did was not humorous nor should it be protected speech or expression. Playing to an audience with a severed head is what our enemies do. The USO should immediately end its relationship with her.” — VFW National Commander Brian Duffy
Come on we all mess up people. I hate what she did but man if every time I screwed up someone pushed me out I would be one lonely and sad person. I don’t particularly love the woman but she screwed up and went too far. She has been told she went to far, took video down, was yelled at by many many people, apologized and move on. IT’s kind of like change the channel if you don’t want to watch her. Haven’t seen her for years until this happened! I am tired of the finger pointing and the name calling. Everyone saying this side did this and this side did that. WELL GUESS WHAT??? Both sides have screwed up this country and screwed over all of us. So why don’t WE take the high road and show them how it’s done and act like grown ups and stop with all the petty HW kind of drama.
This is what I was thinking would happen, the things that matter most to Kathy are disappearing. I still don’t understand why she felt the need to plan and pay for this photo session and why this specific visual?
Many military widows are reacting to this – and they are correct – why remind them of what happened to their family?
It would be too awkward to stand in front of the military now, I would be scared as well, who wants to be investigated by the Secret Service? I hope Kathy stays strong – she can’t blame anyone but herself for this and I do hope she is emotionally doing well.
…nor should it be protected speech or expression…
Oh, we’ve got a constitutional scholar at the VFW, an organization known mostly as a bunch of old drunks. Yes, let’s cherry-pick the parts of the constitution we like to suit our momentary attitudes. What could go wrong?
Glad it wasn’t the USO, an organization which actually exists to do good and valuable work.
Actually they are known as Veterans of Foreign Wars. Not a bunch of old drunks. Your comment reflects your absolute ignorance. Self-important Little prick.
I know very well what VFW stands for, having been to many of its locations. Have you ever been to a VFW? What did you see there?
I notice you completely ignored my point, which is that their esteemed leader is happy to wipe his ass with our constitution when it suits him.
Do you know the constitution? It’s that piece of paper that my forebears literally died to defend. So fuck you.
Wow. I have only been scanning this because TBD the photo has given me nightmares. Like actual nightmares for the past couple of day. I’m sure it’s not just that, but it has been in my nightmares so I’ve just been scanning these comments.
Apologies for missing Eric’s deplorable ridicule of our veterans. It is horrendous at any time but so close to memorial day and here in comments where we have veterans participating in the conversation I just don’t have the words for how vulgar this is.
I am sorry for those of you who had to read the comments and I assure you that I have respect for the office of the President and even more for the men and women who put their lives at risk to protect all of us, even Eric.
Well said Tamara…thanks for giving everyone a platform.
Personally, I cannot understand how Kathy Griffin could not foresee her actions would appear to support sharia law/islam behaviors of beheading…There are actually several pics and one shows her ‘smugly smirking’ while holding the ‘head/mask’.
I am one who will not be giving Griffin a ‘pass’ because she didn’t just move the line and then cross it. She thought she was right in her feelings AND had more support/respect than our President. That is narcissm to the Nth degree. What she did can’t be removed from our minds/thoughts with an apology.
It’s much like Ramona Singer and Lisa Rinna telling lies and instigating. Or look what Phaedra did to Kandi Buress. Once something is ‘out there’…it can’t be taken back. No apology can ‘remove it’. The damage has been done.
I am probably a little late commenting on this but the more I read, the more I think about the women and men standing on a wall, watching our backs. I am a female and I am a veteran. I don’t tell many people that, nor brag about it but they scarifice so much for us to remain safe. Unless one has been in their shoes, you will never know to what degree they do for us. Shame on Kathy and anyone who takes these men and women for granted. It really trickles down to those in the service of our country.
My husband just retired last year from the Army, I know the sacrifices you made. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for you service ❤️
I’m not seeing where Kathy is taking members of the military for granted.
???
Now the USO says they have nothing to do with her. Wowl
USO on Twitter
twitter.com
“Kathy Griffin had two USO experiences years ago. The USO has no relationship with Kathy Griffin.”
Actions have consequences. Good actions/behaviors/decisions get good consequences, poor actions/behaviors/decisions get bad consequences. Sadly, it seems KG got swept up in the thinking that there is no line that cannot be crossed whether it was as a comic or making a political statement on her part. She allowed herself to be surrounded by people who encouraged her to make a really poor decision, with KG being the face of this poor decision. She will take the fall, while many other will walk away virtually unscathed. I do hope she can recover from this egregious misstep. This one moment in time should not erase the enormous body of work (no pun intended- ok, maybe a little) she has worked so damn hard to build. She is a very hard working comic, and is/was loved by many. I hope some do find forgiveness in their hearts. Second chances are deserved by everyone.
This was sort of my initial thought as well. Then I started reading about the amount of energy over a long period of time to do this.
I’m not as ready to forgive as I was.
Well Eric I do see the trickle down actions to our miltary heroes you aren’t a very deep thinker are you?
Military sites are ablaze over this! There are still videos online showing the 2006 beheadings of Pfc Menchaca and Turner. This particularly hits home for me because my husband’s unit was assigned to search for these two missing soldiers.
So yes, Kathy just alienated her military audience AND took them for granted.
Billie,
I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Or are you asking something? (I’m guessing, since your incoherent run-on sentence ends with a question mark.)
If you are trying to argue that criticizing the president constitutes taking the military for granted, please make your case. I’ll be very curious to see your logic. But please, sober up first.
ericzku
you seem to want to hit and run. The reality is – Kathy (whom I am a fan of) fucked up and she now has to feel the sting of failure – well, so what, there have been many a “D lister” that has fucked up and survived. you’re one phrase jabs don’t make sense.
Kathy already copped to screwing up, you are fighting a fight that she conceded to. Right now is the time to watch how she gets up again .
I am always rooting for the person that deserves the second chance, but you are just bashing people for having an opinion that is different than yours – how is that creating a positive spin for Kathy?
Samael:
I think you are reading too much into my comment. I am pretty apathetic about Kathy Griffin; I think her actions here were quite stupid, mostly because, as others have noted, it merely gives ammunition to the Right Wing nutjob crowd. But I can’t get up in arms about it either. This is the country now. Those who were so bothered that a black guy took the White House opened the door to it. After the things Ted Nugent said and did regarding Obama and HRC, which Trump himself bent over backwards to rationalize, well, turnabout is fair play. All of this to say that I’m not really defending Kathy.
This Billie person said that Kathy was taking the military for granted. I merely noted that I didn’t see where she did that. (I mean, Kathy was wrong, but let’s keep some perspective here). She replied that (I think) it was obvious and I was stupid for not seeing it. But I’m the one bashing? Right. I asked her to make her case and explain it then. This should be easy if it’s so obvious. As of right now, she’s yet to do so.
As read it, Billie wasn’t talking about nutjobs on either end of the political spectrum here, but about our military and civilians, including journalists (Daniel Pearl was just one example) who are NOT here at home but in actual danger from terrorist nutjobs who enjoy torturing and beheading and then releasing videos of those actions. And of course families and friends back at home who live in fear and many others here who hate to see THOSE terrorists encouraged or give them images or encouragement,
OK.. that is what I think..
ERICZKU:
Thank you for your response, for me, it felt like you were expecting an explanation for an opinion. I have never understood that behavior on a blog site. Each of us will have differing opinions, yet there are some that demand explanations via verbiage.
The affect that Kathy has had – as she planned – affected each of us – whether we are in the military or not- differently.
As the military have now disassociated with Kathy, she has managed to isolate herself via her message to Trump. Being accountable is the mainstay of the public – and for some that may look different.
I don’t believe I read too much into your response, I think we each have a way of communicating and I felt your format was demanding and argumentative. That is only my interpretation and observation.
IMO Eric is a troll – not the kind that lives on the internet but a nasty little troll who lives under a bridge. A troll who believes he is the only one with a grip on reality. He never has a kind word to say and is always quick to argue and slam commenters. Don’t pay him any mind. If he knew half of what he thinks he does, that would truly be something.
I have always enjoyed Kathy and like she said, she moved the line and then she crossed it. The problem with that, is in 2017 an apology is not enough for many people. Many people are not happy until they have seen you “taken down” because they are so miserable in their own lives that they want you to be miserable as well.
Will this affect her in the short-term? yes. Will it ruin her career? no. Should it? No. Any of you who think this should destroy her career, that she has worked her entire life to build, should look at your own lives and think if you made a terrible error in judgement does that warrant destroying your career and life as well? Maybe there are just alot of perfect people on here who have never made a mistake in their lives. Anything is possible.
Personally, I tend to believe people generally learn from their mistakes and I accept their apologies and move on. I don’t accept their apologies and then bring it up 20 more times like the Housewives, I actually move on.
DW exactly! Mistakes we have ALL made them because we’re human so must we pay for them for the rest of our lives? Unless she actually beheaded him the answer is no,but she will pay a price as we all must when we fuck up royally! She’ll learn today what crossing the line cost and hopefully decide it wasn’t worth it!!!
You are def correct Rita that she will learn what the cost is of crossing that line and she certainly will think it through in the future.
I, as someone who has enjoyed her acts several times with friends will continue to enjoy the entertainment she is known for and great at in the future. The choice she made, was to me, in poor taste, but the “crime” doesn’t fit the “punishment” many wish to be inflicted on her.
Like you said, everyone of us has made mistakes. Fortunately for us, ours weren’t on a worldwide platform. : )
I believe the punishment does fit the crime FOR KATHY,
BUT AM I GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH FUCKING RYAN SEACREST ON NYE NOW? I mean sure, he’s my homeboy, but Kathy and Anderson breaking up is hard on ME! WTF did I do? This time I am being punished for NOTHING. dammit.
Wait, I have an idea. I CAN TAKE OVER FOR KATHY!
TT, see, for me, I might get NYE with Anderson back. Kathy totally ruined it for me.
But if you get the gig, I’ll watch!!
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For those of you who ARE fans, if people are turning in tickets to her gigs, maybe you can support her by buying tickets..
lol, I don’t think Anderson could handle your fabulous bluntness!! Plus you would have to call him out and grill him on all annoying things Andy Cohen and send him into a nervous giggle fit till the commercial break!! Ryan is cuter anyway!
On a random sidenote, I was in your city on Tuesday thinking of you (in a non stalkerish way lol) on the way home from spending Memorial weekend in FL, purposely booked a flight with a long layover there so I could have lunch with a friend who moved there recently. Traffic is as horrible as I remembered!! Everything else was great though! : )
I’m a longtime Kathy fan, AND admittedly I despise Donald Trump and all he stands for. But this is too far – bloody vengeful beheading is never acceptable. What if he was holding her head similarly?
Sad it has all come to this.
We are fortunate to live in a country ruled by democratic law. One might not respect the person who is elected president, but one should always respect the Office of the President. Kathy failed to do that. End of story.
Not a defense of Kathy Griffin’s tone deaf stunt, but I want to know what it looks like to respect the office of the president when the man who is president doesn’t appear to have the same respect? Not trying to be argumentative – ok, maybe a little – but I keep reading that and am genuinely curious about how we are obliged to separate the office from the man in this case.
He goes low, we go high works for me.
I refuse to modify my basic respect for the office simply because there is an idiot in it. I find time better spent working with PACs that can help steer the direction of policies regardless of who the POTUS is.
Once went to DC on a high school trip of like minded students. One of my classmates was very passionate about politics (we all had a strong interest of course, but she was what we would now call an activist). She said if she saw the president, she would want to spit on him or some such nonsense.
I will never forget our teacher’s response. He didn’t get mad or threaten.
He said that he was very disappointed in her. Then went on to say that of ALL his students with an interest in politics and history, she would be the one to understand that spitting on the person would be spitting on the Office. Spitting on the office would mean spitting on and insulting every single man who has held that office, including presidents she admired and called her heroes. It would also be like spitting on the Constitution.
Thanks for your comment MarrietaMommy. Thanks to your husband for his service and I truly hope you both enjoy his retirement. You certainly deserve it. Some people see a comment and would make a remark without researching, asking a veteran what they think. Kathy also weakened our country. I hope the pentagon has her picture for target practice because I (or we) know Isis has her picture with POTUS for the next service man they capture for propaganda. Yes, she did weaken many our servicemen.
But our servicemen don’t feel like throwing up every time they have to salute a guy who said John McCain was not a war hero because he was captured? Followed by the dismissive and clueless statement “I like guys who weren’t captured”. How direspectful to every serviceman who has put their lives in jeopardy for this country and what about all the families of soldiers declared MIA? That guy got a job after making those vile statements he never apologized for…President. Give me a break with the moral outrage about Kathy disrespecting our servicemen and women. She made a bad joke and apologized. Potus is a bad joke who never apologizes. That has no liberal or conservative bias. That a fact that he stated.
Or stating that he has right to criticize gold star families because he has “sacrificed much” himself, yet when questioned what he has “sacrificed” explained how “hard” he has worked.
Right. Losing one’s life in defense of one’s country vs. working hard in the real estate/casino/tv business, totally both “sacrifices” of worthy of note.
I cannot even imagine the backlash if Pres obama, or anyone else, had ever demonstrated such disrespect for military families’ loss and sacrifice, and for the veterans themselves.
Who the hell is this draft dodging giant baby (who got medical deferments for bone spurs, yet was still able to play college sports) telling john mccain who was tortured and held captive for YEARS, that he “likes guys who didn’t get captured”????
The fucking ego on this man. I like men who aren’t cowards, how about that?
Now i’m all heated again lol
Don’t forget how he “always wanted a Purple Heart!”
Now I’m worked up too!
this was Trump’s head …not any of our troops…but guuurrrl…what the crap were you thinking? I don’t even get the joke. Does anyone know how this was suppose to be funny?
Pam it wasn’t funny and worse than that it was creepy! She wasn’t thinking. She thought people hate him enough it would just get a groan if the joke bombed because she’s known for her biting edgy humor. Boy was she led astray with that photo shoot. Ironically that’s why she allegedly left Fashion Police remember? She didn’t like the way they criticized people?
While I would not do this myself, I do see it is graphic/in poor taste, she’s a comedian and has the right to free speech. Just because I would not do it myself doesn’t mean she is wrong to do it. It’s CNN’s prerogative re: firing her, I get why they would.
But I have a very long memory, and Pres. Obama did NOTHING to deserve the racist disrespect he received all throughout by people calling him racial slurs, doubting his citizenship, stating he was a terrorist/muslim, calling his wife an ape and his daughters names, burning effigies, hanging likenesses of him by a noose, calling him the “n” word, etc. He simply was who he was and was hated for that identity.
Trump has actually said and done many things to bring about the backlash he is getting. His rhetoric is nuclear, he gives NO RESPECT yet expects it in return? I do not agree with Griffin’s bit here, but sorry buddy, you want to trash everyone and run about running your mouth with ZERO class, zero regard and zero respect? You best be prepared for someone to dish it back to you.
He has zero control over his mouth and impulses, he wants to smear mccain (a war hero) and gold star families, celebs, the media, pres obama, etc. but thinks he ought to be immune to attacks himself, justified or not?
You cannot have it both ways.
So while I do think this was a bit far, I will not feel bad for Trump because he 100% brought all of it on himself.
If he wants to be treated with respect, he ought to start giving respect and acting like he is worthy of it.
Shae, every time I hear you and others (I’m addressing you be I think we like each other) discuss first amendment rights,
” While I would not do this myself, I do see it is graphic/in poor taste, she’s a comedian and has the right to free speech. Just because I would not do it myself doesn’t mean she is wrong to do it.”
It seems to me that you are saying that people have a right to say anything they want to WITHOUT JUDGEMENT OR REPERCUSSIONS. That caps part is not in the amendment. The amendment allows freedom of speech. Just as we judge the often atrocious comments of Trump, we also judge the statements of “the resistance,” I have the right to tell my boss his breath stinks and his toupee is on crooked. But there will be repercussions.
As someone with a reckless mouth, I TRY when I think it is in my best interest not to say everything that comes into my head. I TRY to consider the consequences. If then I decide that I am willing to accept the consequence, say that my boss will fire me for poking at him, and he does, I made the choice.
In Kathy’s case the majority seems to feel that what she did was WRONG. Those people have all kinds of different reasons to feel that way. There are fans that don’t want to support her shows anymore. There are advertisers that do not want to be associated anymore. There are consequences to the choices that we make.
So while she had the right to do what she did, everyone else has the right to disassociate from her. The right to speak freely is simply that. It’s not the right to speak freely without judgement and consequences. Kathy took a gamble that most people would don their pink pussy caps and flock to see her. She bet wrongly.
Not without consequences judgment or repercussions, just legally. I mean I think we all agree unless you’re threatening someone literally you have a right to say whatever shit you want even if it is in really poor taste. But I certainly don’t think you should be immune from backlash to it because everything has a reaction and if you’re going to be bold enough to say it, you need to be able to withstand and take what comes.
Her employers certainly have the right to fire her, people certainly have the right to stop watching her and the left and the right certainly have the right to denounce her. I understand it all, I just hope she thinks it was worth it. But I don’t think she does:(
I agree, nobody is guaranteed immunity from their own words and behavior.
It’s a fking shame that she made such a horrible miscalculation, because I don’t think she’s an awful person at all.
That may or may not change in a few hours. I’m prepping a new piece. Stay tuned. 🙁
Oh dear 🙁
Ericzku
I joined in the conversations on TT because she is funny. I come here to read and laugh a little. You sound like a person that never has never traveled much, volunteered for service or you would understand that people in the service have one commander, and that is POTUS. We are trained to do things without questioning it. Now as far as what I do in my home is my business. I do not drink at all. Never really liked the feeling of being high. Now, I do help people. My area has been hit with tornadoes this month, so if my run on sentences bother you BITE ME. You want to bully me? No. You just remind me of a narrow minded person. I am not going anywhere. I will tell you, I have a life and I don’t cling or hang out on blogs. I have my opinion you can have yours, but to call me a drunk because I don’t agree with the ignorance of people like you? Not buying your defense over Kathy Griffen who is known to have lots of problems. She went too far this time. Get over me, ok? You and yor opinions of me are insignificant.
Eric is an ass. Ignore him. He only comes out to argue with people and never has a nice thing to say.
Who cares if she doesnt have a nice thing to say. She’s allowed to say what she wants. Dont know why you have a little thread bullying her for her opinion. Stay on topic, dude. Topic is not Erikazu, or however she spells her name.
Isn’t that sweet? You’re concerned out my bullying a bully! Now THAT is full of humor you believe I lack. Good one!
i think Kathy’s career,as we know it,is now over. I watched her but I won’t anymore. Her stunt was stomach turning and barf worthy. People have long memories about something as disgusting as this. I believe she has the right to make a good living . Her core audience will still support her, although she will lose some and gain some. I don’t blame businesses for dropping her like a hot rock. She should hold up a picture of her own head and say ” This is me killing my career “.
So you support her holding a dismembered head as long as it’s hers not POTUS??
Knowing she planned it, thinking it was a swell, naughty little idea, is horrendous. She’s suffering for this. And she should.
I contend, as I have many times before, that our bullshit smart phone/social media culture is going to destroy the world as we know it.
People believe the constant stream of bullshit coming at them on Facebook yet blame CNN and/or Fox for “fake news.” Kathy Griffin uses her platform to hold up a severed head in the age of terrorism. Brilliant, y’all.
Oh, and I wanted to invite that Betty lady up there that said “thank God” Kathy didn’t have children to go sit on a chainsaw. See? It’s too easy to say/read terrible shit all day long and feel SO GODDAMNED RIGHT. Ugh.
“Obama was given a chance to govern and a huge amount of support. All sides came together to wish him well and support his beginning days.” – easily the funniest thing in this thread, and I think every politician has scales on their backs, present company included.
Thank Gapeachinsc I am new to TT but noticed he is a wlb whiney little bitch. I laughed ot loud when you called him a troll. That is why I signed on to read, chim in and laugh. He is deplorable. You are funny!
My pleasure, Doll!! ?
You have a low humor threshold, don’t you?
I don’t know what your problem is, Dainty, but if you notice, this entire post and comments have NOTHING to do with humor. The only humor on this thread is the fact you feel some kind of way about Eric.
New post about Kathy’s press conference today here
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/06/02/phaedra-claims-apollo-is-in-solitary-confinement/