Tonight I suspect that it’s about Tom tonight. And Dead people. Of the two, I’ll take Tom. But first we need to have Sonja totally lie to Bethenny’s face about her conversation with Ramona on the balcony where she told Ramona she totally understood her side of things. I wonder how much a wedge of lettuce is at this place. You could probably buy a small lettuce garden for the same price.
Sonja whines to Bethenny that all the single housewives steal her men. She lists off examples, of course including Tom because she is seething about the wedding. Bethenny tells Sonja that she is like a curator of cock. I thought a curator was a collector and caretaker of old things. Oh, I get it. This scene was sponsored by the restaurant, American Cut. I find that very appropriate.
I’m sorry, I can’t do a memorial service tonight. Dorinda had one at the cemetery for the five year anniversary of Richard’s death. Her whole family and Carole were there from what I saw in the fast forward. I do not know why people do this. I don’t know the day, or even the year of my loved one’s death. It’s not a day I want to dread every year forever.
Wow, the memorial is in the Berkshires. Carole is a good friend for going there. We get to see a little bit of the grounds of Dorinda’s property and it is gorgeous.
Bethenny says she finds buying real estate therapeutic. Which explains this little oddity. She is thinking she wants a bigger apartment. I do not understand this. Women who want to be knocking around in a huge home seem weird to me. I like the size of the ghetto shack just fine. It’s just a piece of shit and doesn’t have basic amenities and it’s in a crap neighborhood. But a house on the beach this size or maybe 500 square feet bigger to add a second bathroom and laundry space would be a gracious plenty. I would like all the land I can possible afford to sit my little house on though. And a gardener with a gardener to do all the hard stuff so I can just pick the veggies and flowers. Ah….to dream…
Meanwhile at Grey Gardens, Tinsley is suffering. I heard a lot about this during filming. It was bad. I wonder if Sonja doesn’t have interns anymore because the school realized that it was not an educational experience. I really think it kind of was educational during filming though. At any rate, she seems to think Tinsley is her intern now. Where in the holy hell did Sonja find those crappy plastic wrapped carnations and daisies? I haven’t been to NYC in ten years but when I did go, my hotel room, that I barely even slept in was like a mini florist. There were gorgeous flowers for sale everywhere and I would sometimes be unable to resist them and carry them around like a moron for the rest of the day. Whatever excuse for flowers she has are worse than what you can get at Kroger. Ha! Sonja herself just said it was an awful bouquet. It truly is sad. Her ice maker is producing brown ice. That’s just nasty.
Luann goes for a wedding dress fitting. She takes her family and Dorinda. She is just glowing about the whole thing. It’s her second marriage but her first wedding and her first time in a wedding gown. I love seeing her so happy. The dress is gorgeous, the lace makes it so elegant. Dorinda tries on her bridesmaid’s dress. It’s a beautiful deep blush. It was a short, happy scene that was much needed.
I was not sure who was in the top photo for this post, but I knew I liked it. It’s Tinsley and her friend. The friend has a Mercedes remote control car for her dog. It’s kind of hysterical and there is a little elf on a shelf in the back seat.
Carole and Bethenny get together for a chat on the couch of antiquated Radziwill farts. Carole and Adam have been dating for two and a half years. He was staying in Carole’s place while in between apartments and he seems to have found something. Bethenny seems to think this is the beginning of the end. I love Bethenny’s sweater. I wonder if they make it in ginormous sizes. I am sure they do not. Bethenny talks about her issues with Jason without actually naming names. Carole says in confessional that she has been witness to Jason’s bizarre behavior.
There is an all cast filming for a holiday happy hour hosted at some bar by Dorinda. Bethenny is going to meet her contractual agreement and go even though Ramona is there. In this fight with Bethenny and Ramona, I am totally on Bethenny’s side. Bethenny does not want anything to do with Ramona, she doesn’t want apologizer Ramona, or vindictive Ramona, or I was just kidding Ramona. She would like no Ramona at all thank you very much.
Dorinda is hoping that Ramona and Bethenny make up. Ramona is going to play it by ear but it seems she wants to make some attempt at peace. Bethenny says she is in somewhat of a good place when she arrives.
Ramona starts going in Luann right away. In confessional, Ramona says she didn’t create any drama, it was all Tom. She has been saying that this week during promotional interviews for this week’s episode. Chile, PUHLEASE. You are creating drama right now. The ladies are gathered for a holiday party just a couple weeks before the wedding and you are still begging for an invitation and pretending as though you bought tickets to Palm Beach. What part of you are not invited has Luann failed to make clear? The bottom line is that Ramona wants an invitation so that she could say she was invited but didn’t go. Then Ramona says, “I just want you to know people are still taking bets on whether you actually make it down the aisle.” Bethenny explains that comments like that are why you are not invited. Bethenny says Ramona is an asshole. I agree.
Why are Sonja and Tinsley late to arrive. Sonja is being a bitch about Tinsley fitting in so well with the other ladies. Carole tells Tinsley that there are two apartments in her building. Tinsley and Carole seem to really hit is off. Tinsley says she married her husband in high school when she was 18 and didn’t tell anyone. But they had to get it annulled because you can’t be in boarding school and be married. They got married again later when she was 26. Tinsley is fascinating. This is what RHONY should be like. Not all the bitching.
I can’t keep rehashing Ramona’s stupidity and lack of ownership of what she did to Bethenny. Neither can Luann, she dips out to go find her man.
I should point out that Bethenny is white as a sheet and kind of greenish. Is it a makeup malfunction or is she fighting off a holiday flu bug. Am I the only one noticing this as Ramona sidles up to her and then seems to be trying to get Bethenny to apologize to her? Bethenny says she doesn’t like the way Ramona is speaking to her, and so she is going to leave. She says that multiple times before getting up to leave. Ramona is wasted and cackling away as if something funny has just happened. In confessional she says she doesn’t feel bad because Bethenny was “talking like a nut.” Actually, Bethenny was trying to avoid talking to Ramona at all and was quite cordial. It seems she has learned from the Berkshires episode or Michele Obama or something that when they go low, she is going to go high. And she left. Ramona starts trash talking Bethenny ane Carole excuses herself to go home. Dorinda follows her out. That leaves Ramona, Sonja and Tinsley sitting alone.
Next week: Tinsley makes our with a handsome younger man and doesn’t make curfew at Grey Gardens. Dennis shows up on camera with Bethenny, Dorinda hosts a huge fundraiser where Bethenny comes face to face with Tom for the first time.
I liked the memorial service even though I don’t get it either. I enjoy Carole and Dorinda together and I have not always been a fan of Carole but she was gracious and kind to be there. It was nice to see how much everyone cared about Richard and had their little stories about him.
I haven’t really been a Bethenny fan lately but she handled herself very well with the Ramona situation. I don’t know how Ramona can eat or drink with her foot in her mouth all of the time.
Less is more. Some want it all. Skinny gluton.
The absolutely bizarre way that Ramona approached Bethany and how she was saying what she was saying made zero sense. They when she flipped the crazy switch and Bethany really had no choice but to get out of there. I am not sure I would have been as polite as she was, Ramona is off her fucking rocker and I am not sure how she has any friends. What in the actual fuck was up with Sonja’s ice? How does that even happen, and to make joke that it happened when Tinsley moved in was gross. I really feel badly for Tinsley for having to live In the pile of bricks. I do love Luanne’s dress, very lovely and I am glad she is having her wedding her way which is minus the bitches.
Rust in the pipes.
that’s what she said
That and no one, I mean no one ever cleans, flushes or has their fridge auto-ice maker serviced. Automatic ice is apparently filled with the worst dregs of overgrowth so I never use peoples auto ice machines. Have one in the fridge but disabled it to make fresh ice in good ol trays.
Yes. I use the plastic ones I can easily clean. Oh yes. Sonja never thought the vodka was in her drink?
I think Ramona was trying to gas light Bethenny and is just very very bad at it. I can’t imagine what else she was doing.
I think that too — she is such a verbal mess when she’s trying to pull one over. I’ve become convinced that Ramona’s “tell”, when she knows she’s saying something malicious / lie / exaggeration, she does that weird thing where she sticks her tongue out while talking. Have you noticed that? At first I thought it was a bizarre come-on to guys but she does it at weird moments with everyone.
I was really appalled by the way Ramona spoke to Bethenny, and I have not been a Bethenny fan. It seems like Ramona had a face lift? and it looks great and she appears 20 years younger than her age..but Ramona was going in on Bethenny in such a condescending, mean old lady matron way, calling Bethenny “strange” — that I wanted to pour a drink over her head and smack her right across the face — Scarlett style. If I were Bethenny, I would ignore Ramona forever. It seems as if Ramona is even more jealous of Bethenny than she is of Luann. And yes, Bethenny looked pretty, but she did not look well in that scene. As for Sonia, I think she feels so rejected by everyone. Harry wanted Lu and Tom wanted Lu, and Dorinda did not invite her..and Ramona froze her out in the Hamptons, and Tinsley (who is great) goes out with people who are ignoring her. Sonia has dealt with a lot and does not seem to be a mean person — it just appears that she feels that no one wants her anymore, and it is never nice to be displaced.
I missed the dirty ice at Sonia’s. Have to watch it again. That does not sound good.
She must have rust or sediment in the water line to her ice maker. It was so gross. I hope she keeps a bag of good ice in the freezer. I couldn’t live without my big glasses of ice water.
That old townhouse probably still has the old lead pipes. They clog and eventually crack and have to be replaced with PVC or copper. My parents had to replace all the plumbing in their beautiful old home and it was extremely expensive. I can’t even imagine what it would cost to replumb a place like Sonja’s. I believe it has 5 stories.
Yeah, the old homes in Boston are the same way. Between replacing the plumbing and redoing the electrical stuff, you spend a fortune. But then you’re good again for another 60 years or so. Hopefully. Lol.
It was very fun to see Dorinda’s mom and dad, and I also enjoyed seeing more of her beautiful Berkshires property. The dirty ice at Sonja’s was gross, and Tinsley would be wise to get the heck out of there at her earliest opportunity. As she grows more popular with the group, Sonja will just work to make Tinsley’s life more and more miserable (to match her own).
Ramona’s a nut job. I’ve never liked her and now just ff through all of her scenes. I’ll take dead Richard over Ramona every day.
Bethany and Carole are both in spin mode trying to redeem their public personas. . Both are full of shit. Carole can tolerate and be friends with all of them this year and Bethany is appalled that Ramona is talking about Tom and Luann. And hasn’t lost her shit on anyone yet. Pulease. Come onnnnnnn. Bullshit. It’s ridiculous to watch.
Yes!
And the real estate bs she just hawking her new show with Frederic It’s Bethany home shopping channel courtesy of bravo.
I think everyone has forgotten what these pigs led by Bethany did to Luann last season. Like it never happened. Gross
here in the ghetto shack, the cubes in the tray are lead filled..maybe. But clear as a bell!
I live in a little 4 room shack on 5.5 acres of land and surrounded by other farmers. We have well water which I cannot do anything with except wash clothes because of the surrounding farmers using fertilizers. They seep into the water. If I pour a glass of water out of the spigot I get a lovely rainbow film that floats on top! Now that is gross! I hate buying water but I have no choice, I drink it and cook with it.
I have a little shack on 10 acres and my well water is fantastic. I’m very fortunate.
The mental health issues are strong with these ones.
First time in history I’ve fallen asleep during an episode. Thank you for the recap!
Luann’s dress suited her and she was glowing, kinda wish the wedding had been filmed I understand and agree why she didn’t want Bravo anywhere near her big day!
I feel for Dorinda but I wish the episode would have had more Tinsley and Luann because they were the bright spots of this episode. Tinsley needs to get her own place pronto but her contract may have trapped her at Sonja’s house of hell for this season.
Sonja’s cracks are really showing this season. Last episode she complained that Tinsley is not being gracious enough but it’s Sonja who needs to be grateful because without Tinsley Sonja would have no camera like last season hence the true reason I believe Sonja even pitched the idea to the network to have Tinsley on the show and why Sonja invited Tinsley to stay with her.
After reading the interview ‘The Business of Film’ with Richard Rionda Del Castro/the chair of LA based Hannibal Pictures I have a new outlook on Sonja and it’s not a good one. She is not the air-headed lamb she pretends to be on this show.
Ramona has lost the few marbles she had.
I like Carole and Bethenny this season.
Ramona is on overdrive. Did she watch herself suck up to Bethenny all last season, absorb the backlash against Bethenny and her own sycophancy and decide that she was going to reassert herself this season? Looks like a planned strategy and not an organic evolution of a relationship.
Or, maybe she felt she and B were besties, and is reacting to the cold shoulder now by going over the top. She’s no Phaedra, but I wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of Ramona’s crazy ass.
I’m obsessed with Luann’s sister. The lascivious way she said, “I’m a big fan of lace” tickled my funny bone for some reason. I replayed it about 6 times.
Holy hell, that struck me, too, for some reason. A tough-sounding broad professing her love of lace.
Luann’s sister gave me Rosie vibe from RHONJ.
Ha! I wondered the same thing, Peachy.
I like seeing Luann spend so much more time with her family since she met Tom. It seems like they socialize a lot more with her sister and her kids than she could do before as a single woman on the hunt.
Or she is less focused on her royal title and position. She had made it clear her family were not part of “her and the Count’s world”, at one point. her childrena r petty wel launched, as well.
I thought the 5 year memorial for Dorinda’s husband was sweet. I envy her ability to re-start her life after losing her husband. It has been 6+ years for me, & I’ve finally realized that no matter how hard I’ve tried, moving on is not an option for me. I still go to the cemetery every holiday & anniversary, bringing flowers, alcohol & sweets. One of the younger great-granddaughters recently went with me on what would have been our 51st anniversary. She was helping me unwrapped the Hershey kisses to spread around the headstone when she looked up at me & declared, “Grandma, this is just weird!” Maybe, darlin’, but it pleases me & somehow I hear my Rocket Man laughing again.
There’s not a thing wrong with what you do, Mzgrandma!!! There are lots of cultures that continue to celebrate their loved ones long after they’ve left us. And that great grand daughter of yours may find herself feeling the same way as you once she gets older.
❤️
Whatever comforts you Mizgrandma – you suffered a tremendous loss. Not everyone understands that people handle grief differently and everyone handles it in their own time-it’s not a race. It’s nice you’ve found a place where you feel comforted.
You were fortunate to love someone so much and to be so loved. I suspect he must have quite the gent.
Everyone grieves differently, what seems silly and painful to one is actually comforting to another. To each his own. I don’t like going to the cemetery to visit loved ones, but I do mark the day of their passing in my own way and with family. Especially my father’s passing.
But anything goes in this area for me, whatever makes the person feel better and gives them some type of solace. I think it was super touching of Carole to be there for Dorinda, I know it would’ve meant a lot to me in the same situation.
I cannot even with Ramona anymore, I just have no words for her lol
Sonja is being utterly ridiculous with Tinsley. When you have a houseguest, you treat them as such, not as an annoyance. Don’t invite people to stay with you if you are going to act like a twat. That townhouse is disgusting anyway. Sonja’s time is up on this show, IMO.
Ramona has some serious mental issues. I would have punched her in the face LOOOOONG ago. Like legit with a closed fist.
Is it me, or is Dorinda’s drunk voice now her everyday voice?
I agree with everything you said. Especially punching RaMOANa!
Loved the simplicity of Luann’s dress.
Ramona is mean and clueless Her need to be the center of attention is pathethic.
My mum has a memorial for my brother every year. She gets balloons and makes my kids (the only kids in the extended family really) write notes to their uncle to attach to the balloons. I’m not a big fan of making my kids perform on demand and I hate going and try to miss it any way I can. I have “accidentally” booked vacations numerous times. I am not capable of just telling her how I really feel. I wish I could fast forward through them!
In addition – that ice was the worst! I would never eat anything out of that fridge EVER!!! That ice is so symbolic of Sonja. Her new tag line should be;
“My ice may be brown and my gardens may be grey but my sex life is red hot.”
Tag line Sonja would flaunt.
If she wasn’t so crazy….maybe they other housewives would steal her men… LOL
… fascinating, not bitching… My sentiments exactly.
I think Tinsley is confused she breathes through her mouth and talks through her nose. Drives me bananas, otherwise I like her.
Barb, that comment may be one of the funniest ones I’ve ever read.
I really don’t understand how Ramona has any friends.
The talking with her mouth full would be enough to deter me lol
Years ago — literally about 12 or 13 — I used to read Gawker, when it was sort of still sharp and fresh. That’s how I know of Tinsley, because they were obsessed with mocking her for being the number one most heinous “debutard.” (Charming!) I don’t know that she is sharing a lot of deep thoughts on RHONY, necessarily, but she certainly doesn’t seem dumb to me.
Also, Ramona was reminding me of Kelly Bensimon — that unsettling thing of acting really strange — and then calling someone else strange in that mock-concerned voice.
everytime ramona talks to luanne regarding tom, she throws in a dig!!!! so socially awkward!!! she says people are still betting the marriage won’t happen yet she wants to be invited to wedding. also said in previous show – well i’ll always be here for you. she and sonja are very jelly!!! luanne did run off w/harry (after he proposed to sonja), the pirate ( who sonja brought home first) and tom!!!! so that’s 3 that we know of that luanne has taken over. she was even seeing tom while living at sonja’s townhouse!!!! bethenny does use the show and other interviews any chance she gets to trash her ex. she wants the world to know he has been harrassing her! i know he was arrested but all this is not going to help brynn!!! wait til she googles her parents. good thing B has a lot of money for the shrinks that will be needed for this poor child. they both need to grow up and be good parents for their child’s sake!!!! stop fighting….she will read this all one day!! and watch on tv.
Carole looked like Mickey Mouse in that black suit and those white gloves , when she arrived at the memorial waving her Mickey Mouse hands all over the place.
CHeck your key board.. maybe some keys aren’t working correctly. I do agree that once it’s on the internet , forever on the internet.
I’m happy to know that I’m not the only one who doesn’t know when loved ones died. Loved my parents with my whole heart but while I know the month my Dad died, I’ve no idea of the day or year. Don’t remember even that much about my Mom’s death. I was her primary care giver during her last 2 years of life yet can’t remember when she died. Can’t remember my anniversary either. It’s been so long that neither of us remember so it’s all good.
That’s a normal stress response. Not to worry. Quite normal among empaths and caregivers.
I come from a large extended family where many have died young, far before their time, and often can’t remember each of their exact days. But if you need to, you can check a mass card or obituary. I can usually find the info there 🙂
That dog in the plastic Mercedes G Wagon is everything.
It looks like Big Edie gets a little pinched each time Little Edie trys to spread her wings.
Run Tinsley….RUN!
The way Ramona has come at Bethenny this season – twice on air – have both been super strange. First she was like “I know you’ve been in the press lately…,” then Bethenny said in a follow-up episode she was in articles about that boobage movie, big deal, were circulating six months prior. I hope B tells Ramona that if she were that concerned about how they were handling it [B and Bryn] that Ramona could have contacted her then, as in at that time. Just seems like an obvious move on Ramona’s part to try to embarrass Bethenny in front of the rest of the hws their first time back filming. ..then Ramona and LuAnn proceed to say stuff to each other about how Bethenny doesn’t care about anyone but herself, one says she is wicked and the other says she is a witch, right across from her…resentment carryover from the reunion much? I hope that Bethenny can articulate that how they were talking about her hurt her feelings. We know from Carole that B was emotionally beaten down already at the time from the “beyond bizarre” communications she was getting from Jason. Then the next time, Ramona was beyond weird in her approach with B at the club. I wish Bethenny would have asked her right away what her point was. You could tell it wasn’t going to be good, Ramona seemed hurt that Bethenny didn’t tell her about her new doggies…they probably didn’t talk at all since filming wrapped for the previous season, and Ramona is implying she was there for B literally every day when she went through health problems last year. The whole thing is uncomfortable and feels forced. I think as a hw it would be good for them to keep in touch w/each other when not filming and see how they are doing, not just force relationships for the show, ya know? It really feels forced on a lot of hw shows anymore…..