As we approach the end of the ninth season of RHOA, I feel like everything has become so confusing that I need to back up and remember what caused Kandi and Phaedra to turn on each other so viciously, There is an easy, one word answer to that question. Apollo.
Some folks think it started with the workout video that Todd produced for Phaedra, but things had fallen apart well before that. The DVD situation was really just part of the fallout.
In her latest Bravo blog, Kandi wrote about finding out that Phaedra was behind all the lies Porsha was spewing all season.
I was thinking, “Damn, was there a reason to hate me this much?” She already assisted Johnnie in helping him to meet an attorney to sue me, and now I find out she was spreading accusations that I want to drug people and take them home! This is too much. I’m so glad the truth finally came out and I’m glad to be able to move on from this. Thank you to everyone who remained #TeamKandi, especially when others were believing the lies!
I am firmly on Kandi’s side in this entire situation. What Phaedra did was pure character assassination and dead wrong. BUT, Phaedra did have her reasons.
In any divorce, the couple’s friends are usually divided up along with the marital assets. Due to Phaedra and Kandi’s long friendship, it’s easy to assume that Kandi would remain on Phaedra’s side. But she didn’t. Because Todd and Apollo were close, Todd became aware of a lot of Phaedra’s shady business. What she knows about Phaedra, and how much Apollo told her, via Todd, we will never know. But what happened was that Kandi eventually became very sympathetic to Apollo’s situation. Is that because she found out that Phaedra was the mastermind? We might find that out if Todd’s revelation at the reunion that “the Feds are still watching” bears any fruit.
The bottom line is that Kandi chose Apollo over Phaedra. Kandi knew about Mr. Chocolate, as did most of Atlanta. It seems both Phaedra and Apollo had side pieces during their marriage. The biggest blow to Phaedra was when she found out in the streets that Kandi and Todd were storing some of Apollo’s possessions. That in itself is illegal and it’s amazing they didn’t face any charges that we know of for doing that. Then when Apollo went to prison, Kandi advocated for the boys to be allowed to go visit their father. And that only happened when Bravo insisted on it. Allegedly. From Phaedra’s point of view, her close friend picked her spouses side in a very ugly separation. Phaedra was determined from that point to take Kandi down.
I don’t think it was very wise of Phaedra to start an ugly battle with Kandi. Kandi has ALL the dirt on Phaedra. Her attacks on Kandi and Todd will backfire and may ultimately be what brings Phaedra down.
Kandi doesn’t seem to understand, even now how vindictive Phaedra is.
“I was shocked, angry, disgusted… I could go on. Even with everything that had happened between me and Phaedra, I still didn’t think Phaedra would go so low as to tell someone that I wanted to drug them. Being an attorney, you would think she wouldn’t intentionally spread defamatory false statements about someone. The sad thing was that she didn’t even seem sorry for what she had done.”
She’s only mad she got caught. And the fact that Kandi mentions her right to practice law in the same sentence with the words “defamatory false statements” tell me she is going to go after Phaedra’s license to practice law. This is going to get ugly.
You know who loves it when things get ugly? Andy Cohen. People keep asking me if Phaedra is really fired. I can say that one of my sources believes that rumor and the rest don’t know. I do know that the plan was for there to be no cast changes for Season 10 other than bringing Kim and Nene back in some capacity. Kandi seems to be planning some sort of legal battle. She has plenty of money to do that with. That might cause Bravo to reconsider keeping Phaedra. On the other hand, these two unloading each others personal information next season would be ratings gold. Porsha would have no one, other than Sheree, to film with next season if Phaedra were gone. Which means Porsha would also be in danger of losing her peach if Phaedra does. This is all a giant headache for Bravo. Or Andy Cohen’s wet dream. We’ll have to wait and see.
I need to talk about something other than obamacare right now so this topic is good as any.
I am still grossed out by Andy’s reaction to kandi being so upset.
Anyone who follows Andy ever get replies from him? If so, can you ask him a question for me?
Ask: How would you feel if someone accused you of pulling a Bill Cosby and drugging and raping are you ok with that?
I doubt he’d answer but I’m curious.
I feel like he would throw a big tantrum if someone did him the way his buddy did Kandi.
Andy doesn’t care for any of those women but Porsha and Phaedra, he hates when the other ladies or viewers come down on those two hard (Lol). He sat there with no compassion or anything for Kandi even after it came out that Phaedra lied. A lot of viewers are done with the show but like I said before some fans are so miserable that they don’t mind that Phaedra told that lie on Kandi. If rape victims or women who have been drugged create an petition to get the Atlanta franchise off the air bravo is in trouble. It’s all fun, shade and ratings until someone gets fired, especially with the missing girls all over the world. Kandi could shut a lot down if she wanted to.
Andy or Bravo clearly knows Andy f’ed up with his response to Kandi. They edited out his stupid response to go straight to “I’m shocked.” What a jerk he is.
What did he originally say?
She asks “what did you think?”
And he responds “what do you mean?”
She then screams out “what did I mean?!?!?….”
He responds “well, I was shocked”
Yea, what did he originally say? I just saw him side-glancing at Kandi when I watched it.
Are cast members allowed to sue each other? I’ve heard mixed opinions; I have no idea. They’re always saying such horrible things about each other although this certainly is the worst -the lowest of the low.
Technically the answer is no. They sign away their right to sue each other and Bravo when they sign their contracts. They sign away a LOT of basic rights. They often send cease and desist letters to each other though, as that is not really a legal action.
That said, there is some question about the validity of the employer putting something in a contract that basically robs you of your legal rights. Some have tested the rule. Kandi previously sued Kim over Tardy For The Party revenue. She lost. And Bravo did not fire her for breaking that contractual agreement. The verbiage in the contact is basically over things like slander and character defamation and such.It is in place mostly for BRAVO though the agreement includes castmates specifically. If Kandi formally sues Phaedra for defamation, it could terminate her Bravo contract. The judge in the defamation case is not bound to consider the Bravo contract, but could consider it if he/she wanted to. Likewise, Bravo could decide to do nothing, keep Kandi and not enforce the contractual agreement. There are some things that are criminal charges, like when Porsha assaulted Kenya. In those cases the prosecutor decides whether or not to press charges. Those do not violate the Bravo clause. I think it may be likely that Kandi will file a complaint with the GA Bar and attempt to have her license revoked. That is not a lawsuit and thus not part of the clause either. There are a lot of ways things could go at this juncture. It depends on what Kandi and her attorneys decide.
Kandi is extremely smart. I’m excited to see what her next move is.
It can be difficult for an employer to wholesale prevent an employee from pursuing any legal recourse. Most likely, there is a mandatory arbitration clause – meaning the employee could pursue a claim, but privately through an arbitrator.
Employers rob employees of their legal rights as a way of life in most the country by requiring employees to agree to arbitration, and forgo their right to sue their employer in the courts. Employees do much worse in arbitration. Also, arbitration necessarily means that employees can’t unite in a class action, which is a serious threat to an employer. As for Kandi/Phaedra, I don’t like or trust either one of them, but that said, Kandi turns on the tears like a faucet and wants us all to forget how horribly she treated Phaedra when Apollo was about to go to jail. Kandi ditched Phaedra then. No matter how bad their relationship was, Phaedra was obviously dealing with a lot with a bastard of a husband who physically threatened her–on camera, no less–so I can only imagine how threatening he was when the cameras weren’t there. She had two kids to deal with, both losing their father to prison. Not easy. And all Kandi could do was whine about her play that was failing and about her layoffs. The way she whined you’d think she was the one being laid off. Kandi’s as self-centered as they come.Defending Apollo is a pretty woman-hating thing for her to do when Apollo was a sleaze bag who dropped $6,000 at a time at strip clubs with his sleaze bag friends, like Cynthia’s ex-husband. You don’t spend money like that on drinks, you spend it on prostitutes. And what are they doing in strip clubs when they’re married men? You know who loves this kind of behavior? Andy Cohen. And you know who else is as low as Andy Cohen and defends this kind of behavior? Kandi. She was a horrible friend and a horrible person. Phaedra’s horrible too, but the two of them chose each other. Kandi wants everyone to forget the background, so I’m glad Tamara brought the matter of the history up.
Right on ..thank you.
Am Team Kandi all the way! Phaedra should be in prison alongside her husband.
I think what Phaedra did was rotten. But I’m not able to be Team Kandi. I believe that she chose her man over her girl friend. That’s not cool. From the workout video on, Kandi has proven time and time again that she will defend Todd no matter what. Then when Phaedra’s marriage fell apart, Kandi should have been a true friend and been there for her girl. Instead, she started hiding Apollo’s assets, criticizing Phaedra for the way she chose to handle HER business, and overall took Apollo’s side. She broke girl code. And she did it first. Whatever Phaedra said or did in response to that is warranted in my opinion.
So Kandi deserved to have those allegations against her because of girl code and not having Phaedra’s back? Wow
Girl code vs. Moral code. Simply solution for simple minds.
No. She mad false accusation about Phaedra too. Or punked out and had her crew or her mom do her dirty work. Kandi expects a double standard. She and her crew can dish it but she can’t take it.
Kandi took vows with Todd, not Phaedra. So what if Feds took Apollo’s stuff, Phaedra knew she couldn’t sell them anyway. IMO, Kandi thinks Apollo is taking the fall for Phaedra and backed away from the friendship so she and Todd wouldn’t be implicated.
Exaaaaaaaactly. Kandi had Phaedra’s back for a long time, and the shift away was marked. I have long believed she uncovered just how deep in Phae was in the illegal acts, and thinks it’s dodgy AF for her to let Apollo take the fall for acts she was involved in.
It also makes her comments about felons and judgment from last season make sense – Kandi has some experience with incarcerated people in the family/dealing with visitation during those times, and feels Phaedra frames every person who’s done time as scum.
Now, put yourself in Kandi’s shoes. If you know people who’ve done time, but are decent people, and you are pretty sure OR know for a fact that Phaedra was involved and got away with it, those comments of hers and her withholding the children would make you see red.
Phaedra can feign ignorance until hell freezes over but I will be right there with a blanket and some hot chocolate calling bull*hit! As nosy as she is and being an attorney to boot, there’s no way that she didn’t know what her husband was doing. She may have been intelligent enough yo wear gloves and leave no bread crumb trail back but she knew about everything.
lol you think girl code should come before Kandi’s marriage to Todd? Wow.
The whole “girl code” thing is stupid. In my opinion, human decency overrides “girl code” each and every time. It’s shady people doing shady things who pull the girl code, guy code bullshit. If you’re a decent human being surrounded by other decent human beings, all living with the assumption that you’ll do and say decent things, there’s no need to protect your actions by an urban dictionary defined code. Kandi might have protected Phaedra until she learned the woman no longer deserved her protection.
Kandi, I always new that Phaedra was jealous of you and you didn’t see it. When she gave you a baby shower it was not a nice place and you know that Phaedra does it big.
Leave the other women out of your bed room and out of your marriage. You and Todd are a great couple. Always put GOD first in your marriage…..Love
Sue Phaedra Parks, so she what do that to any one else. And, Phaedra always playing with GOD and now GOD had to show her, that he didn’t like what she did to you and your family………GOD Blessed you and your family
But it’s OK for Guy Code to take presidence? Hiding property is againsr the law and Todd had to know that, which is why Kandi got annoyed with him in the episode that showed the items.
Kandi’s chose her husband…the last time I check, when you get married; you forsake all others. No friends comes before your husband! Also, Kandi stated that Todd allowed Apollo to keep those items there and she initially knew nothing about it but once she found out about it, she dealt with Todd for doing that shady crap. Kandi’s was dealing with a lot of issues during the time that Phaedra was getting a divorce; she admitted that maybe she could’ve tried a little harder to be there for Phaedra but she also let it be known that you guys have no idea all of the things that Phaedra says/does off camera. So, we only know what we see of Ms. Phaedra Parks because we can clearly see she has many shades/sides of her. For all of you rationalizing Pahedra’s actions because of how Kandi behaved during her divorce; you are absolutely incorrect…there is no justification for Pahedra’s actions! Say what you want Kandi is the realest individual on this show…she didn’t have to apologize or notify Phaedra that Apollo’s fiancee stopped by the restaurant, she didn’t owe that to her at all because once again that was Todd’s doing. She didn’t have to apologize for thinking that Phaedra sent the Feds to her house (we were all thinking it), & most importantly, her gripes with Phaedra & Porsha was directed to them! She might’ve went back and told all of the other ladies what was said but what does it matter…it would’ve been seen on TV anyway! No justification for Phaedra’s actions and no remorse for Porsha acting as Phaedra’s puppet and not having a mind of her own to go and speak with Kandi’s herself. For all of you speaking about Kandi’s bursting into tears…a lot of people cry when they are pissed; all tears aren’t from a sad place…hers is just a little bit more than others! I think most of you are mad because you all were caught up in Ms. Holy’er than thou & she has been exposed…hell I used to love Phaedra & Kandi’s on the show! I will rock with Kandi over Phaedra on any given day & twice on Sunday’s! Right is right and wrong is wrong; there is nothing that Kandi’s could’ve done to warrant that accusation…especially if we are only talking about breaking a damn girl code! Get your damn lives!
Thank you for your post!!! I have been saying this from the beginning of their friendship falling apart… Kandi did not agree with Todd holding Apollo stuff, but people seem to forget that because they dislike Kandi so much.. Kandi stood-up for Phaedra when the other ladies were trying to question her about Mr. Chocolate. Also, she dismissed Apollo about the cheating accusations when he was showing the text messages, and she called and told Phaedra about what he was doing..
I would wager that you aren’t married.
Apollo? Greed?
This story is on point. So many people kept saying all season long how mean Kandi has become. She was hurt. Still is. However, she will bounce back. Porsha Porsha Porsha. Wow. I really hope everyone comes back and bring Iyanla to fix them! Smh…
Iyanla would run away screaming from this group! They need TD Jakes. Yes, Fix It Jesus, indeed.
I don’t know, didn’t Phaedra survive the tell-all book written by that gal that revealed all sorts of details about Apollo and Phaedra’s relationship and “business” dealings? Tamara wrote about it a fair bit here but I don’t recall what ultimately happened. It sounded like the book had the potential to do Phaedra a lot of harm but like a turd, she always seems to float.
Great ending sentence”……..but like a turd, she always seems to float.”
I am really naive about this, if Phaedra was doing the same thing as Apollo, wouldn’t she have gotten charged along with him? I mean this was a Federal case and even Angela Stanton failed to prove her case well enough to bring charges. So can the Feds have two separate cases or compel spouses to testify? The Guidices went down together. I’m not team anymore, I feel terrible for Kandi but come on, she bad mouthed Phaedra and outed her secrets. I don’t know why any of these women trade off sanity and privacy for more time in the spotlight, is it really worth it?
I hope Kandi and Todd sue the mess out of Phakedra! Phakedra said during the reunion that Kandi was “collateral damage.” Phakedra is so shady and should be fired off the show and since Frick needs Frack, take Porsha with her. Todd hit the nail on the head when he said she knows what’s going on in everyone else’s life, but didn’t know what the man she was sleeping next to was doing? Get the FOH.
An eye for an eye…
I’ve been waiting and waiting for you or someone else to see the catalyst for Phaedra’s issues with Kandi. Thanks for finally putting the words in print.
By the way, I still don’t get Todd hiding Apollos property from the Feds then allowing those items to be filmed, but perhaps he just didn’t think it through.
I think Apollo probably asked to store some items at their house, away from PHAEDRA. Todd probably assumed the Feds had already taken what they wanted, since he had been sentenced. And that they were just keeping them away from Phaedra, which is why they didn’t care to put them on the show; it created drama. IMO
I have read and re-read Kandi’s comments and I cannot see where she references pr threatens Phaedra’s law licence, except to point out she should know better. Am I missing something?
Kandi is a boss you have to watch your surroundings these people say they your friends never your friends they just haters I hate Porsha let Phaedra get in her head smh kandi you should sue Phaedra ass
Porsha reminds me of Brandi Glanville…very trashy, inappropriate, immature, dimwitted, can be easily led and manipulated. Women like that are dangerous and should not be on TV. I hope that the Phaedra rumors are true AND Porsha should be fired as well.
I see the fall out with Kandi and Phaedra similar to the fall out with Teresa and Jacqueline. Phaedra is the type of person to act like everything at home is perfectly fine, nothing is going on, but she will even go further and lie and make up stuff to portray everything in her personal life is ok. By doing that, she pushed Kandi away. If Phaedra is not going to be honest with Kandi about her personal life, and Kandi is getting another story about their personal life, probably more closer to the truth, from Apollo confiding in Todd, then it is hard for Kandi to respect their friendship since Phaedra obviously doesn’t. Phaedra was fake to Kandi so their friendship became distant. Kandi didn’t sweat it, she moved on with her life too, which i think at the time she was getting married and dealing with a lot of BS with her own mom not liking Todd. So she didn’t have time to focus on the BS going on with Phaedra.
Andy’s face when all this was going on made me sick. He was ‘gleeful’ and that really shows his character. Team Kandi all the way.
Let’s be honest… as deplorable and disgusting as Phaedra is (which she reinforces when she does those tongue things in those hoochie bikini wraps), there is no way that Andy will let his prize pig go. She’s in the promo for his new dumb show “Then and Now”. I don’t know how she scored a spot among all the B-list celebs.
And also, if Porsha can keep her peach after assaulting two housewives by sleeping with a higher up, Phaedra will be keeping her peach by sucking up to Andy.
Unfortunately, I see Kandi leaving the show before Phaedra. But I hope I’m wrong
Historically, when people are no longer useful to Phraudra or they don’t conform in the way she likes she dismisses them and carry on if they did not exist.
Angela Stauton has the dirt on Phraudra that is why PP kept getting the trail delayed, not showing up and filing foolish motions. The way she handled that case speaks of her character
In regards to Kandi going to the GA bar, PP isn’t stupid enough to admit she said it, so it would be deemed as hearsay which isnt grounds to be disbarred.
Kandi used to go hard for PP, but over time when she found out the truth she started to distance herself. Most people with common sense would do the same thing.
Look at the people “close” to PP that has done time (Angela, Drama and Apollo) and look how she treats/treated them when they were no longer beneficial to her. Its a cycle with PP but some people have blinders on.
Also, PP is good with word play. So things can be left up to interpretation. That broad is evil and I am ready for the Feds to burst her bubble
Miss Thang hit the nail on the head! After finally catching up with this season, I totally get where she’s coming from. And after the whole “DJ Drama” episode — I knew Angela Stanton was completely telling the truth. Now that she’s no longer going to be on the show, I predict the Feds are going to go hard for her. It’s obvious Apollo won’t settle because she’s trying to shirk him on the original deal they made. She knows he did the bid to make sure those babies had a parent at home. Not to mention I think he loved Pha-Pha but soon realized she weas using him as a pawn, like many others in her life. Good for Kandi realizing that Phony Pha was anything but a true friend.