Tonight we have to get through Ramona’s 60th birthday party and Carole’s election party. So Carole does some last minute campaigning for Hillary, and Ramona does some last minute laser treatments on her face. I’m going to stick the Carole story and skip Ramona’s.
Carole
Have we met Carole’s mother before? I don’t recall seeing her. Carole picks her up in a car and before I can finish thinking, ” Carole drives?” Her mother asks her how often she drives a car. When Carole says she doesn’t really anymore he mom grouses, ” Great, that makes me feel really good.” I love her. Apparently, these two are driving to Pennsylvania to do some last minute campaigning for Hillary because Pennsylvania is a swing state. Trump won PA by less than one percent.
Sonja
Ms Morgan would like for us to know she is playing the field and not just screwing Frenchie. Tonight she has a date with Rocco. I really like Rocco for her. Sonja says she sleeps with Frenchie but not with Rocco, because there are guys you sleep with and then there are guys you marry. Sonja tells Rocco that Tinsley didn’t even get her a birthday card.
Carole’s Election Party
I noticed that Bethenny is filming a lot with just her “friends.” When I point out the fact that we have never seen nor heard of these friends, y’all always correct me. But I am saying it again anyway. Where did she find these friends? She taking Majorie, Lauren, and Rachel who are definitely with HER and voted with their pussies. Bethenny doesn’t seem to be a Hillary supporter. I’m not either but I did end up voting for her, only because I am convinced that Trump is literally going to start a world war. Only because of the fact that I hate the idea of World War III more than Hillary’s actions in Libya did she get my vote.
Heather Thomson arrives to support Carole on election night. These two seem like real friends. I’m not sure why Carole is wearing red gloves inside, but that might be what jinxed the election. Dorinda arrives to let us know she knows Hillary personally. Apparently, Carole asked all the women to wear pantsuits. Bethenny wore jeans.
It’s 8:30 Carole is panicking. The all think that Hillary will announce victory around 11 p.m. As we know that didn’t happen. around 11 pm everyone just went home from the party to be alone. The next day Carole calls her mother crying.
Carole and Ramona go dress shopping. This does not make any sense at all. Carole ruins the surprise party for Ramona, but Ramona never really listens to anyone talk except herself so she doesn’t seem to register it.
Ramona’s Birthday Party
The attire is “little black dress” which is silly because that is always the attire in NYC. If you travel to NYC or Paris and just wear all black head to toe, you will blend right in unnoticed. Ramona has a date planned after the party. Something about that double booking and Dorinda running late causes Ramona to get her own car for the party.
Harry the guy that these women all passed around before Tom came along is there and Sonja is not happy about that. Ramona invites her date to the party. She doesn’t know his name. He reminds her that his name is George and shows up to find a loud Ramona with a few cocktails in her. She talks to him for ten seconds and then ignores him.
Luann bails early. Bethenny refused to film with Ramona. Drunk Sonja and Ramona film on the balcony. Ramona tries to explain that she didn’t do anything wrong by bringing Bryn into the topless movie drama. The cake presentation was really nice. It was a black and white cake with several masked people in black and white with little black and white umbrellas. I feel like Dorinda went over the Bravo budget for this shindig.
Next Week: Luann has a fitting for her wedding dress. Ramona says mean crap to her AGAIN.
I agree; Dorinda made it nice.
Carole’s a coward. Sick around Carole. We all wanted to see your full reaction when Trump was elected. HA! So pompous. Carole even wrote a speech she was going to give at her “election party” when Hillary won. Thank goodness Carole didn’t have kids. They would be just as self important.
I guess she’s not entitled to an opinion or support a candidate. Yes, she went on and on about it. She was just stating how most people feel, more now than ever.
Hate to burst your bubble but most people DON’T feel like her. Many that voted Hillary voted against Trump not FOR Hillary the crook.
Nope.
A pretty horrible, mean-spirited thing to say, especially considering the disgustingly self-entitled attitude of Trump and his children, none of whom have divested themselves of their businesses. Nothing more entitled than the shirking of countless years of tradition. Yet Carole is self-entitled because she (like most of the country) wanted and was led to believe Clinton would win over this buffoon?
Not sure most of the country agrees. Trump won more counties than HRC and she got 3 million more popular votes mainly because of California and NY. That’s why we have an electoral college. Otherwise all the elections would be decided by 2 states. Fly over country wants a voice too. That being said, Trump’s approval ratings suck. I didn’t vote for either of them. Find them equally repulsive.
The flyover states want a vote? Why should the populated states have to abide by your rules? I’m all for California exiting the states, and then we’ll see how well you do without our money.
LOL. The flyover states pay for Cali’s entitlements and fatherless babies
You realize that California is the sixth largest economy in the world and pays more to the fed than it receives, right? Oh no. You don’t. You’re too busy being uninformed.
Totally agree. Have any of you been to Cali lately? Other than Hollyweird and silicon valley?? Southern cal is all about illegals and gays who vote for their special rights and free stuff. We out here are tired of paying for it. Thousands have left California for this reason alone. Leelee seems to me you are the one uninformed. But than that is the same attitude that Carol has. Smug eletist and and sanctimonious.
Please exit! I am from CA and moved. CA doesn’t have enough working people to sustain it without federal aid. Half of the people I knew were on disability or aid. They were all under 50!
Can you trace ‘Betty’ because that is obviously one of the hillary trolls paid for by Putin.
What the fuck is wrong with you Betty? Are you really thrilled with the current administration? And the self entitled Carole walked door to door to 840 houses supporting her candidate, that is harldly self entitled.I disagree with most everyone’s political views on BOTH sides.
I find your comment disgusting. This is not college football where fans act all foolish and destroy property after a “win” at a big game. This is our country and the more we show our asses like you did here rather than try to find points of agreement, the worse off we are.
Yes, we shouldn’t destroy property. Tell the Liberal protesters(rioters) that. Carole literally wrote an open letter to Trump. Seriously? No president. on either side is reading letters from housewives. But of course she is so important at least she thinks she is. No on is thrilled with politics in general but anything is better than Hillary and her liberal agenda/. I’m glad her e mail server sunk her campaign. That what one gets when they try to be underhanded. I wonder if she is still puttingTabasco on her eggs? Lol
She’s a citizen, a journalist of 20 years. We are all allowed to write letters, indeed, making our voices heard is our right and our duty. No one believes that Trump would read that, because Trump, self-admittedly, reads nothing. I encourage YOU to read beyond Breitbart and watch programs other than Fox. You’ll find the Republican agenda these days stands for nothing beyond hypocrisy, misogyny, homophobia, anti-environmentalism, and nepotism. Trump will ruin this country. And you’re concern is that a Housewife shouldn’t write a letter because I makes her self-important or bc she puts Tabasco on her eggs? What a spiteful, hate-filled life you must lead, which sounds about right considering your political views. Cheers to the coal industry!
the last time Carole worked as a producer (not a journalist) was when George Walker Bush was president. the only nasty person here is you. which is typical considering your political leaning. want to know why Hillary lost? because of people like you and Carole.
Seriously? Hillary lost because of dumb fucks like you. My Schadenfreude is kicking in, because you will see the hurt soon.
Breaking news: A news producer IS a journalist. FFS
Hillary put Tabasco on her eggs to pander and get the Hispanic vote. Hello!!! Didn’t work. Ha1
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Funny thing. Carole, like any of us, is a citizen before she is a Housewife and her opinion counts the same as anyone else’s. Clearly, she is well-informed on U.S. civics and has every right to publish an open letter to an elected official, as do you or I. You sound jealous, actually, and intimidated by her ability to use her Bravo platform to engage in politics and support a candidate you dislike. No need to be jealous. Write your own letter!
If underhandedness is your concern, you haven’t followed that concern to its logical conclusion. What could be more underhanded than colluding with Putin to steal the election from the more qualified Sec. Clinton? Not much, bitch. (see Dorinda)
Another reason Trump is in the WH was his uncanny ability to connect with the least common denominator of our society. Comments like yours highlight the internalized misogyny of so many older white women and will be the undoing of decades of social progress for marginalized groups.
Betty, please wake up. You evidently don’t understand how very fucked we are with this president.
Apologies, Tamara, for perpetuating this apparently futile conversation. I was compelled to respond.
Thanks for saving me the trouble, Angeline. Well put. As for those whining about this thread turning political, exercise your free will and don’t read it. I am sure the HW will return to their petty drama next week, and we will back to talking about Carole’s overbite and Sonja’s love life.
And I am officially fangirling on Angeline Nunley … Well Said!
Awww, thank you! (Blushing…)
Good luck idolizing Hillary and Huma. Ugh. I wonder how much Hillary lost on the fireworks display she had planned, all the while standing on the Peninsula balcony over looking Trump Tower. Bahahaha
Angeline, you rock! ❤☘
Wow! Did you attend charm school with Trump?
I wouldn’t eat an egg without tabasco or salsa. Even though I am old & sometimes need a cane I still participate in marches, & have never seen any compatriots destroy property. If you are referencing the Berkeley incident, the destruction was not done by Democrats. I’ve already called my congressman’s office twice this morning & will probably call again before the day is over. I do not bother with letters to the White House; I send postcards with large print because the president apparently has difficulty reading.
I believe Clinton carries tabasco around, her staffers in the state dept all said the woman always kept jalapenos in her office for snacking! lol clearly she likes hot/spicy foods. I don’t think she was pandering there.
I always thought hot sauce on eggs was a southern thing. I know this former SC girl does it. Hilary is from Arkansas.
I don’t know where it originates but I’m a born and raised NY’er and I love it on my eggs and even on some (real noodles, not top ramen) ramen noodles with a fried egg on top!
How about you get off the comments and go to a make america great again rally where your people are
I think we poor, old, dumb country clods were chuckling about Carole’s attitude toward the election is because we poor, old, dumb country clods are sick of smug liberal elites telling us how to behave. I personally have lived through many elections where the person I voted for didn’t win, but the next day I got up went to work and took care of my family just like always. I didn’t go out and scream and holler and break and burn things because my guy didn’t win.
Agreed – but the phrase poor old dumb country clods is just as nasty a generalization as smug liberal elites. There is a tiny bit of truth in each but mostly, its a stupid generalization.
Carole didn’t help by whining that others were going on-and-on about their candidate … while she was going on-and-on about hers. But then she’d right the ship by noting how ridiculous it was to behave as disconnected NY’s.
I thought the scene with her mom was beautiful and one of the nicest examples of how we all could act during election time. Get out, meet people, be positive, try to be helpful. They were a cute Oscar and Felix.
I’m not a supporter of causing damage to public and private property but when I see the people protesting (or am part of that protest) it’s a good reminder that most protests are attempting to protect poor and old, regardless of skin color or time zone.
Smug, liberal elites? What is that, someone with an education above eighth grade?
“Smug, liberal elites” = people who don’t consistently vote against their own self interests.
It’s people who have election parties so sure they are going to win. You know, like candidates who schedule fireworks so certain they are going to win. Bahahaha
Yes, it’s much better to try to set up fireworks spur-of-the-moment than it is to plan in advance in case of a win.
Not only are you a cunt, but you’re an imbecile too. Perfect example of a Trumper: malignant and extremely stupid. Brava!
How have “smug, liberal elites” told you how to behave? Examples please?
I have also lived through many elections where the candidate I voted for didn’t win. However, this one was different. Unless you were alive in 1888, this was only the second presidential where the winner of the popular vote did not win the Electoral College. In 2000, the difference was half of one percent of the vote.
This time, the difference was over 2 percent and 3 million votes. This is UNPRECEDENTED in our nation’s history. The result did not reflect the will of the people. This, combined with a coordinated disinformation/propaganda/smear campaign by a hostile foreign power (that one campaign was in bed with) has led many thinking people to be of the belief that the election and the result are illegitimate.
So when a thieving, lying imbecile squeaks into office through a fluke in the system on a foundation of lies and commences to set up a kleptocracy, which he did and is doing, you’re damn right I’m going to scream and yell about it.
Have fun!!! 🙂
I do have fun. On a daily basis.
Also: go fuck yourself with chainsaw.
Hah!! I love you ericzku.
Some of us smug, liberal elites are pretty country clod as well; one can be both a lefty lib’rul and a rural dweller as well. Off to muck the goat pen now whilst feeling smug about my political leanings 😉
My smug liberal ass gets all excited about goats. Goat cheese, goat milk, goat selfies.
TT,
I also do not recognize these friends of Bethenny, I did recognize the other ones though.
Ramona’s party was gorgeous…Dorinda living up to her tagline about making it nice!
Sonja needs to realize Rocco is a great match for her!
I loved seeing Carole and her mother together, her mother seems like a great person and made Carole seem more real somehow. I can’t stand scenes with Ramona anymore I feel like I’m watching a crazy person. Firings did it nice as she always does , as for Bethany…blah
I’m totally down with more scenes of Carol and her mother. Not too many, but some.
Is it just me, or did Carole’s party seem like a bit of a dud from the beginning? I can see why no one was having fun at the end, but no one seemed to be having fun at any time throughout. It was great to see Heather, as she’s always been my favorite NY HW. I agree that Bethenny seems to have been a Trump supporter but was being nice for Carole.
I can’t take Ramona. Dorinda did throw her a beautiful party. George seemed like much too nice of a man to get tangled up with Ramona. Hopefully her treatment of the party gave him some insight into who she is.
Carole was there at 7 when the first polls closed so as not to miss anything. I think we missed A WHOLE LOT of crying and despondency. It’s not that I needed to see all of that again, but it happened and would have made it all more real I would have liked a full hour of just the election stuff. ‘
No matter your party I really recccomend a show on Showtime called The Circus. It was a behind the scenes look at the election. There is a new season now dealing with the aftermath and the week of the current POTUS.
It looked less like an election party and more like a skinnygirl ad…guess Bethenny was footing the bill?!
Heather’s my favorite to! I really hope she comes back full time next season.
I think Bethenny did say in the episode she voted for Hillary. I’m glad you’ve pointed out the friends thing, as it seems these are just people she met once or twice.
I thought the show did a great job portraying the election without getting too heavy, personal, or going overboard.
I like Carole 19376329 times more when she isn’t filming with the ‘B’
Now that Bethenny is on bad terms with Ramona, she’s going to try to get on good terms with Luann. Ugh.
I could have sworn I read some article about Bethenny going to a Hillary fundraiser.
The choice between Trump and Hillary was akin to picking which eye I wanted to poke out with a hot poker…I will say I sleep much better at night knowing Mattis is SOD and more importantly Trump has deferred to him. I guess he realized he didn’t know more than the generals.
I really don’t get the histronics post election, Trump won and I was shocked like everybody else. The protests and general stupidity regarding the electoral college has caused me to kind of enjoy Hillary’s loss. I had no idea what to expect from Trump, I think people hear what they “want/expect” from Trump. Bannon seems to have lost the battle to Jared Kushner a pretty hardcore Democrat.
If people who think Trump is “almost Hitler” would pipe down they might realize Trump is hardly a conservative.
I think I might’ve been able to stomach him if he was actually a conservative, because though I disagree with many of their points, they are generally sane. Sometimes ill-informed, but sane. We just have mutual disagreements on policy and approach.
What goes on in that man’s head is not sane, his behavior is erratic and illogical, to say nothing of my reasons for despising him personally.
Again, if he were more of a Romney/Ryan, I’d not be flipping out right now lol
I was encouraged by the protests, so long as they are peaceful, people need to be more involved and wake up. I think Bernie really woke something in people and I hope their involvement continues, regardless of their party. 🙂
Hmmm. The EO he signed today shoring up the political rights of religious (read: Christian) orgs says otherwise. One has to wonder what he’ll get in return from churches, cuz the only party he cares about really is himself, we all know that.
Even the ACLU said this amounted to a photo op. They put out a statement saying there was no issue, they had prepared for a fight but it was a meaningless gesture. My words…like national Hot dog Day but Beef, Pork, Chicken, Vegan hot dogs receive the same treatment. people assume that because the Oscar Meyer Weiner Mobile was in the picture..it was about Oscar Meyer. Considering the beating the ACLU has taken on Free speech issues,( God Bless Them for supporting Free Speech)
I enjoyed watching Carole’s electile dysfunction.
What is with the 2 HUGE bruises on Carole’s back?? You see it at Romona’s suprise party.
I saw the bruises also. Either the cats or the chef were involved. Hopefully, in both scenarios the bruises were created consensually.
@Jess…pretty sure that those were from cupping. They showed Bethenny having it done last week when she and Carole went to the holistic place. I have always wanted to try it, but I bruise like the Georgia Peach that I am and those bruises would still be on me over a month later.
Thanks guys for clearing that up! I was getting a little concerned.
Looks like “cupping” to me. It’s fashionable now.
She had cupping done prior to the election
Did she say that she had cupping done prior to the election? I’m not so sure those were cupping marks. I get cupping done on a regular basis mainly for arthritis in my neck, shoulder and lower back. When I get dry cupping the marks are long, but uniform in width. When I get moist cupping the marks are pretty much uniformly round. Carole’s marks were neither. Of course all practitioners have their own style of performing cupping, so I certainly could be wrong.
I’m usually the one with the info on Bethenny’s friends but i have never seen these ladies before either lol
I was loving Carole’s mom, my mother had me at the same age she had Carole so I get the sister vibe they have going on, especially now that Carole is an adult. My mother and I don’t bicker, but we do have that type of friend/sister/mom relationship going on now and I tease her all the time we’re going to be old ladies together lol
My mom went to bed on election night around the time it took a scary turn because she had work. Poor thing got quite a shock when my sister told her the outcome in the morning, she didn’t want her to hear it on the news first. Watching Carole’s party was rough, I felt exactly the same – panicked and like I wanted to vomit, but I had felt that way for about a year, not just that night, over that.
Ramona is just too damn much. She simply does not understand why that was wrong to say to bethenny and how bringing her kid into it is going to get her up shit creek fast.
I don’t know how much of what Sonja was rambling about was true, but I would agree that if someone is hosting you in their home you should mark their birthday with a gift/card, just to be appreciative and gracious.
Shae I agree with all of your points on both of your post. This episode was tough for me to watch because I felt like I was reliving a nightmare. At this point I’m just numb and holding my breath until his time is up.
As for Sonja I want to believe her about the birthday card but given her every growing distance from reality I will need receipts. I’m sort of afraid for Tinsley to get back on her feet in NY while living with Sonja because I don’t think Sonja will be able to handle it and I wish Sonja well.
Receipts lmao
I hear you. I definitely have to take all things Sonja with a grain of salt 🙂
I would love to see more of Carole with her mom. I feel like most housewives are at their best and most authentic when interacting with family. I am liking Carole again this season. I think she reads the comments on the blogs and social media and has taken good notes and has decided not to be Bethenny’s Siamese twin this season. I do think her friendship with Bethenny is real, I just think Carole is better when she spends time with some of the other women too. I’m glad they showed some of Carole’s involvement with the election, this is was part of her real life and it was nice to see real emotions
Dorinda definitely made it nice for Ramona’s party.
In previous episodes Dorinda said Sonja is jealous and I’ve observed that since Tinsley moved in, Sonja has shown a territorial side when it comes to her friends. I think Sonja’s still trying to recover from last season when she was alone on the island, left out of a lot of filming and then had to watch Luann find love with one of her old flings while living under her roof. That may explain Sonja’s new “house rules” for Tinsley not being allowed to bring guys or friends over without Sonja’s knowledge or approval and why she thinks Tinsley should inform her every time she’s going to hang out with the other women.
Ramona is just too much but she does look good for her age. That poor guy, I think his name was George, seemed embarrassed to be there and I think he pulled the Irish exit like Luann, LOL.
I may be in the minority but I’m excited to see Luann’s dress fitting next week.
Rocco seems to be such a warm, kind and gracious man, and I do hope that Sonja marries him. And Carole’s mom is down to earth and delightful. I personally considered the election to be a choice of who was the lesser “evil” (for want of a better word), and people are entitled to differ as to who they thought that was. That said, I do admire Carole for visiting all those houses on behalf of her candidate. That showed authenticity and democracy in action. Good for Carole. And say what you want about Ramona –she looks fabulous at 60 and is not giving into an ageism – mentally, psychologically or physically – refusing to let anything stop her. Good for Ramona, too! (Although, I felt a bit sorry for her date, George).
I agree with you on all points. Trump puts his agenda front and center while Hilary hides behind what the people want while being shifty behind the curtain.
And I think Rocco is great for Sonja, but if she’s thinking marriage she should really stop sleeping with frenchie.
One of Bethenny’s “friends” is Marjorie Gubelmann. She is a socialite/DJ like Paris Hilton.
Ramona has all the class and grace of a drunken water buffalo.
For all her judgment and pretentiousness, she has absolutely no idea how to be gracious to guests or to a date. It was horribly awkward how she treated George, who gets major points IMO for even showing up given the surprise circumstances. She could’ve apologized in advance for not being able to pay much attention to him and for their date being hijacked, as she had a room of 250 guests to mingle with, at least that would’ve acknowledged he was going to be on his own for most of the evening, and she could’ve told him to feel free to go whenever he was ready, but no. She just turns her back and carries on.
I’m just wondering what is that lumpy, bumpy style of bangs on Bethany? Did a stylist do that. I think her hair style looks terrible. Just my opinion. She should have left her hair and face alone. Ramona looks amazing at 60. Crazy as she is, apparently you can fill a room with 250 of her friends.
Bethenny appears to have lost a lot of hair. Maybe stress?
Why is Ramona scheduling all if not all her dates during the film times?!
Goddamit. These comments are ruining the ONE website where I have been able to hide through all the election bullshit. I’m sick and fucking tired of all of it. We have a president, like it or not, can’t we at least SEE what he can/can not do? Is it seriously not fucked up that we have a late night tv personality calling him a prick and a dick sucker and not a single liberal is pissed about it? IF ANYONE had said that sort of thing about Obama we WOULD have a new war. Can we please quit fighting for one second and think about America FIRST? BTW, I have a husband in the Army and a son in the Air Force Reserves, who is also a police officer. I think my opinion that Hillary put our military in serious danger then bailed, and continually put Black Lives Matter way the fuck over the safety of our police officers counts WAY more than Carole who was a writer many many years ago and her claim to now is a washed up reporter who shacks up. I don’t give two shits what she thinks about politics. (But I bought and loved her book, love and loyalty she does know and speaks about well.) PLEASE don’t take this site away from me by being assholes. I truly am sorry for the rant, but I also truly believe every word I said.
ITA on all counts.
I agree with you bravocueen. I hold back from political comments. But it both amuses me and saddens me about how arrogant and quite ignorant most people are about how our government works. I will simply say I think Hillary would have been a disaster for this country. My opinion. If one really does the research, there could be no other conclusion. Trump is far from perfect, but he was elected under our laws and it would be best to be a united, not divided country. Remember we have a congress and a Senate. We are not a country run by a one man dictator. The best part is that we are all free to express our opinion without fear of being thrown into prison, shot or beheaded. We should all respect that right and respect each other.
Wow! Um, feel better?!
Thanks! And if you don’t agree, thanks for being respectful to me. Dorinda’s “being nice” is lost on me today, but I appreciate the way you responded to me!
What do you mean “if anyone had said that about obama” ? They did, and things 1 million times worse for 8 years. Racial slurs, epithets, maligned his wife, called her a gorilla, a man, slandered his daughters, etc. He was continuously disrespected by members of congress, nevermind COMEDIANS lol and yet, no war. The President handled it with grace, as people called him a muslim, kenyan, impostor, antichrist, you name it.
So no, I don’t really care that a late night comedian is calling Trump names. Trump calls everyone names, he has the poise and dignity of a gnat. You need to give respect to get it, and he does not- so he is not off limits to comedians.
I disagree. Perhaps you heard people saying those things, but I didn’t. I heard “of” people saying they heard people saying those things, but not one person ever said those things in my presence. And certainly not on television. So if you have people in your life that say those awful things, I would definitely remove them.
People in my life? This were quotes in the media, on live television, on twitter and other social media platforms from prominent people. Not by people I associate with personally. You didn’t hear Trump saying obama isn’t an american? that he was born in kenya? That he was muslim? I am not going to provide links for you, because I don’t think that’s permitted. You did not see the posts on facebook by Pamela Ramsey Taylor, a west virginia country official, calling mrs. obama an “ape in heels”? Or Robert Copeland, an elected member of the police commission in Lexington, Kentucky, who admitted to calling obama the “n” word in public and who was forced to resign? Or Rep. Lamborn who called him a “tar baby”? You didn’t see all the social media backlash and hate? The congressman who referred to him as a “lao tribesman” and said he was “shucking and jiving”? Or Rep. Wilson who heckled the president during the state of the union, screaming that he was a liar? Or Newt Gingrich stating he engaged in “kenyan, colonial behavior”? Or the slurs against Malia and Sasha by Elizabeth Lauten, a republican congressional aide?
Things don’t need to be said or posted in my physical presence to exist. I have tv, I have social media, and I see the fallout. All of the above are easily verifiable facts, not hearsay. Trump literally ranted for years about how obama was illegitimate, not american, muslim, etc. How on earth did you manage to avoid witnessing all that on television?
To say nothing of the general population’s slurs on social media, etc. I’m just limiting the above to notable people.
I assure you, I do not tolerate people who use racial slurs and are bigots in my personal circle of friends.
It amazes me that people refuse to hear any of this. I’ve had these discussions in my own home, when people say Trump is being “rejected.” I mean, come on. I remember all of this. Oh, and ignoring Trump’s business interests while crying about Hillary and the eevil bankers? Wow. Look up Steve “you should thank me” Mnuchin. It’s amazing how selective people are.
Also, I recall an awful picture of Obama’s face superimposed over some kind of witch doctor or something. This was about 5 mins after he was elected.
I couldn’t agree with Tamara more..it’s not a fucking football game. I also find it hilarious that some obviously mentally balanced person said they’re glad Carole didn’t have children. WTF.
Mostly, I’m pissed off about healthcare, as a self-employed person. Didn’t think I could get any more fucked, but here we are.
Yea, I don’t get the blind loyalty or defending the indefensible. His own press secretary is hard pressed to spin flowers out of the manure he’s been handed. I hope he’s getting paid well.
I hear you on the healthcare issue, Sam.
Oh god Sam, no shit. I’m self-employed too and this repeal (and erosion of preexisting conditions coverage) is horrible. Should have made my doc appointments in January but it’s too late now.
If we take our collective eyes off WA DC, we are collectively screwed. If we can walk, talk, dial a phone or send an email, we have to press on to slow this shit show.
Agreed. It truly blows my mind.
Please provide the video clip of a late night TV host calling Obama a c**k holster.
Anecdotal evidence isn’t a true comparison.
It does, however, go to show that the people suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome are just as ridiculous as those who suffered from Obama Derangement Syndrome. Obama didn’t “destroy” America and Trump won’t either. JFC wr have 3 separate, co-equal branches of government. We arent a failed state ala Germany or Italy after then1st world war.
Although I personally don’t think it is appropriate regardless of who is president, it was not *worse* when it happened to Obama any more than it was to any other of our presidents. Heck, Thomas Jefferson called John Adams a “hideous hermaphroditical character with neither the force of a man nor the sensibility of a woman.”
This is America — we get to say mean sh*t about our presidents. You can set your hair on fire in out rage or not.
Well, I would say members of our own government/congress calling the president (obama) racial slurs and asserting he is illegitimate due to being foreign born or a terrorist is a bit worse than a late night comedy show host saying the president (trump) engaged in some lewd, homosexual, sex act.
I do see worlds of difference there in both the source of the comments, the seriousness in which they were meant and the comments themselves. So I do think what Obama went through symbolized something much different and was much more serious than jokes in poor taste.
Bethany took out her extensions, ergo the look of hair loss. Ramona’ ignoring her date was really rude. She said on WWHL, she didn’t care cause she did not like his shoes. Gesh. I agree Carole is much easier to take away from Bethany.
Ramona is so insanely shallow, it’s breathtaking, really.
Wow. How is the weather over there in the alternate reality where you live?
You are upset that some mildly political comments on one post is “ruining [this] website” and then go on to…make a long, political comment. M’kay….
Many liberals are disappointed in Colbert for making a homophobic joke and want him to do better going forward. But there was no uproar because the essence of the joke was true; Trump is Putin’s puppet and a useful idiot to the Kremlin.
Have you been unconscious for the past 8 years? Or maybe you are choosing not to remember all of the nasty, racist “jokes” that were made about Obama (and Mrs. Obama) again and again.
“…Hillary put our military in serious danger then bailed…”
Oh, really? How did she do that? You’re aware that the Secretary of State is not the commander of the Armed Forces, right? You did pass high school civics, I hope. I also hope you are not getting your information from fictionalized propaganda movies and thinking that it has any relation to real life or actual events. I hope you are better than that.
“…continually put Black Lives Matter way the fuck over the safety of our police officers …”
Okay, here is where we go way off the chain. I mean, this is so ignorant I don’t even know what to say. What you think Hillary did to advance a movement that began in 2013, after she was out of office, is a mystery to me. Or is it that you think she agrees that police should not be able to continue killing unarmed citizens unchecked, and that somehow that impedes “the safety of our police officers”?
I’d suggest that maybe you learn just a little bit about what Black Lives Matter really is. I’ll give you a couple hints: that ALL lives matter is THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of Black Lives Matter. And yes, “all” includes police officers. Maybe it would help if you thought of them as “Black Lives Matter TOO”.
“…Carole who was a writer many many years ago…”
I’m curious: what is the expiration date on being “a writer”? One year? Five years? Two months? Certainly she’ll always be an author. How many books have you written and had published, my dear?
I apologize for all the the political discussion here. HOWEVER, this episode was about politics. So in THESE COMMENTS, politics is on topic and related to the episode. I promise it is not going to take over the site.
So THIS POST is going to be a little heated because we are all on edge. If you can’t take political discussions, I totally get that. Say you piece here and then stick to the other comment sections for your own preservation. This will pass.
That said, the major reasons my decision on who to vote for was so EXCRUCIATING was because Trump was claiming he would fix health care and secure the borders and enforce immigration laws. While he has made some progress on the latter issues, the healthcare bill in the house today WILL BE WORSE THAT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE and is NOTHING like what was promised on the campaign trail. So I am a bit infuriated over here on my couch today.
Also, it would be super great if we could not insult the commenter personally. While I myself do it all the time. Like people who think Phaedra Parks is a good honest “southern belle.” I consistently tell them they are too stupid to breathe. But when in comes to politics, there is no easy side. This is a topic this country needs to be able to discuss. If we can’t hear what our imaginary Internet friends are saying on subjects that affect our health and safety as US citizens, how can we expect our politician to do any better?
So try to be decent to each other in these comments. We can all resume calling each other cunts in the other comment section. These comments are turning into SNL Point Counterpoint. “Jane, you ignorant slut….”
Your response made my day Tamara!
Agreed! TT
Sorry, Bravocueen, I’m not going to genuflect because you have family members in the military. Your vote isn’t any more weighted than anyone else’s. (Well, it is if you’re in a state with a high EC count but low population, but that’s another story).
The fact that Carole can be well off now but have empathy for people of color who experience police brutality, for LGBT persecution, health care woes or immigration panic — is only to her credit.
We see examples in this circle of RHONY women of those who are shutting their eyes to it “until they came for me,” as the Nazi analogy goes. So while this episode was painful for those of us who are progressive, I’m sure, it was a welcome reminder that they’re not all vapid.
A thousand times yes!
Did anyone else think that Ramona’s date, George looked a little Mario-esque?
Yes, that was weird!! A slightly younger one. And then she did what she always did, turned her back and made it all about her. It made me queasy on his behalf, poor guy. I was perversely hoping that Luann would spot him and start chatting him up, that would’ve brought Ramona running. 😉
OMG that would have been a INGENIOUS move on LuAnn’s part.
He looked like a very poor man’s Mario — and that’s being generous. Mario is a total hottie, damn his cheating ass.
Sweet baby Jesus, Ramona looked like a fucking bleeding stuffed pig in that red dress. She actually thought it looked good.. that chick is seriously whacked in the noodle. She is seriously delusional on every aspect of her life. I used to be embarrassed for her, now I’m just embarrassed for her daughter. Her ex probably is thinking thank god I got away from that crazy bitch.
I saw “crazy bitch” and thought, “wow, that’s me today.” Totally true. I lost my granddog last night and my daughter is despondent. I guess I”m venting here (but venting truthfully from my pov lol).
Very sorry to hear about your pup, bravocueen. My condolences 🙁
bravocueen, so sorry about you grand fur baby. They have our hearts forever and we never seen to have them long enough.
I thought that red dress looked HORRIBLE on Ramona. It was very lumpy. She needed a size up so that we didn’t see all her lumps and bumps. She looks GREAT especially for her age, but that dress did her no favors.
I think if she had on spanks then that size of dress would look better, but I don’t think it looked bad on her.
bethenny has no one left who she hasn’t ‘ripped a new one” except carol so she needs some outside ‘Probably Paid’ friends! to stay on the show. did anyone notice at carol’s party she poured a skinny girl cocktail??? bethneney must have provided free alcohol once again for product placement. i think the only place you’ll she her garbage these days is on the show, as people have learned how vile/replusive it is. not well stocked in bars or pkg stores at all…. ramona was somewhat crazy w/her questioning bethenny but I do believe her about her daughter or her getting flack from her fancy nyc private school regarding things that happen on the show! betthenny’s poor daughter brynn does not stand a chance w/what’s gone on between her two parents and bethenny running her mouth and trashing her ex every chance she gets on nat’l tv. don’t they realize soon she will be reading and googling????? if she’s not already. they both need to grow up.
Wait, Bethenny runs her mouth to trash her ex on national TV? Where? All I’ve ever seen her say is that she can’t discuss it.
I have not heard word one about Jason out of Bethenny’s mouth. She has vaguely referenced to going “through hell” and relief at the drama re: her apartment being over. I have never heard specifics about Jason at all, let alone “trashing”.
I see absolutely nothing poor about Bryn. She is a beautiful little girl that is completely loved and well-cared for by both her mother and father. Say what you will about Bethenny or even Jason, but please leave Bryn out of it!
Ramona always makes it a point to show off the fact that she’s dating, to make it seem like she’s getting laid, but then in the most recent episode, she made several quips about how that’s NOT the case, she just goes on a bunch of dinner dates and that’s it. I’m not at all surprised that all these guys run for the hills after one date.
I come to this site to escape politics, come on!!
It would be odd to have that expectation for a recap and comments on this particular episode.
I don’t know if Andy is still doing “Jackhole of the Day,” but mine for this episode would be the “friend” who arrived at Carole’s with a Deplorable t-shirt on. I’m not a huge Carole fan, but she was certainly more gracious about it than I would have been.
Ramona was making me so nervous on that balcony leaning against the rail. All I could think about was the episode of sex and the city where the woman falls out the window while smoking at a party.
That’s exactly the scene I thought of too!
That was such an hilariously camp moment. I still gasp and laugh hysterically when she says “I’m so bored I could die”, then topples straight out of the window and takes the drapes with her. Total soap opera.
I will never forget that scene. Smoking did indeed kill. 😉
I wished they would have shown Ramona after her fractional laser treatment. Lots of swelling and skin that looks like hamburger meat after that. It’s painful and take about 3 months to look completely normal and six months for the full results.
I wish they had shown that too, it was such a blatant product placement. Its the procedure I always think of when Kim Richards is on camera (not during reunions when she has serious pancake makeup on). In other scenes, she always looks freshly laser-ed to me.
I think Bethenney supported Hillary as I remember a pic of her at Sarah jessica Parkers Clinton fundraiser and she was posing with JLo. But then again maybe she just went to the party and not an actual supporter?
(I gave up reading the political stuff above for obvious reasons, so apologies if I’m repeating anyone else’s observations.)
I thought the juxtaposition of Trump’s election vs. Ramona’s birthday was an hilarious move on the part of the production/editing team last night. It made her seem even more frivolous and absurd than usual.
I understand why there’s some confusion about who Bethenny voted for, she seemed uncommitted last night, but I think that’s just because she got attacked on social media when she declared for Hillary in an interview last April. She said Trump had “an experience issue”, and that while Hillary could be a disaster too, she’d still be voting for her (in part because it was an historic opportunity to elect a woman). She’s a more pragmatic voter than Carole, but certainly no Trump supporter, and I think it’s unlikely she changed her mind on that. Carole has confirmed on Twitter more recently that Bethenny was “with her”, also.
I got the sense last night that this show has turned into another Housewives franchise about a bunch of women who resent spending time together for the sake of the cameras, just like Atlanta. Until Ramona knew the party was for her, she obviously planned to run in for 15 minutes and run out on her date for the sake of camera time, and Luann ran off to dinner with Tom after making her contracted appearance. Bethenny has been doing this ever since she returned too (using the unassailable excuse of her daughter as a reason to leave every event early), and I couldn’t even think of a single event that all 7 of them have been together for yet? There’s always someone who isn’t invited, or someone with a better place to be. It’s off-putting for me, if they aren’t really interested in having friendships with each other. The only one who’s genuinely invested in the other women seems to be Dorinda, I think she gets really hurt when she’s betrayed by them, and unfortunately that feeling brings out an ugly side in her. Hopefully they’ll give the cast a bit of a shake-up before its tenth season next year!
Politics makes strange bedfellows. Sleep tight don’t let the bedbugs bite. New York hour of minutiae.
Can somebody please explain the two huge bruises on Carole’s back at Ramona’s 60th party?
Several people have explained that in the comments above.
Am I the only one who noticed all Carole’s bruises on her back and arms? What’s that about? !?
Yep you are the only one.
I waited soooo long for Carol’s party. I was disappointed it was only about 2 minutes long. #MAGA