Sorry for the delay, I have started GOING OUT INTO THE WORLD again. I was actually hanging with a couple of housewives…. I will tell you all about it this weekend. 🙂 Now on to RHONY..
Tinsley has arrived in the city! And she is moving in with Sonja. Spoiler alert! Blind Item reveal! Sonja whisks her off to stay in her daughters room, why? Is that the only furnished guest room in the whole five story townhouse? Sonja is in a short sleeve top so maybe she has the heat working this year. Tinsley apparently went to see Sonja in her play before she “arrived to live with Sonja.” That’s weird.
Sonja is trying to help Tinsley find a man. She grabs pen and paper to make of list of her requirements. When we get to the part where Tinsley says she wants to have kids, Sonja and I say in unison, “How old are you???” She’s 41 but she froze her eggs. She’s going to be 60 at the kids graduation. These women and their unreasonable expectations. Tinsley then gives a sanitized version of her arrest and expresses shame over the screwball eyebrows in the mugshot. I say good for her for owning the situation and moving on.
Tinsley is so happy to be back in the city. She goes to a fur salon to try on new coats. You go girl. So far, she has said, “Yeah, I have a crazy mug shot, whatever!” And fuck you PETA a bitch needs to stay warm. I think I’m going to like her. I love the pink and green dress with the pockets. She totally needs to get that.
Bethenny
Hopefully, it is Halloween, because it seems to be at Bethenny’s house. Bethenny doesn’t seem to be feeling Carole this season. I wonder if it is because of Carole’s constant political talk? That seems to have come between a lot of people lately. Right after Carole arrives, in walks Ramona who pisses off Bethenny right away by refusing to take off her shoes so she doesn’t step on the new dogs. Then she steps on the dog. Why does Bethenny have dogs that have to be gated out of the living area? Dear God. Bethenny has bitched at Carole about nothing and now Ramona is starting a fight because Bethenny didn’t send her photos of her dogs when she got them. Is this going to be a season of just random bickering? Bethenny tells Carole she thinks there is something wrong with Ramona. Um, hello? Are you just meeting Ramona?
Ramona of course starts talking about Luann and Tom. Because that is all that they have going on this season it seems. Ramona denies calling people and investing things and Carole claims “no one is doing that.” Um, Carole, yes they are and their name is Ramona.
Finally a break from Luann and Tom to talk about Tinsley. They are basically going over this post. Carole says that she is she is having an election party. Both Bethenny and Ramona give the impression they are tired of hearing about Hillary. Ramona even says it will be interesting to see what happens with her email scandal. I’m a bit shocked. I thought all the NYC folks were very pro Hillary. Then again, there were a lot of people supporting both candidates who just never shut the hell up about the election. I way over hearing about it; however, I am glad they included it in this season because it was a big world event and as much as some of us might like to, we can’t pretend it didn’t happen. Plus Carole has a huge meltdown, so that might be fun. Ah, there it is. Bethenny doesn’t like that Carole is more well-versed in politics than the rest of them.
I love Bethenny’s commitment to Dress for Success and how she is using her air time to promote the charity. Around this time things started to go south with Dennis and Bethenny. Not sure what happened. Maybe the idea of spending a lot of time with Bethenny was better than the actual practice of doing so. Bethenny is going to the Hamptons for the weekend and Dennis will likely be there according to Bethenny. They’ve been seeing each other for about a year. Bethenny indicates that all of the drama with Jason is problematic. That was still going on recently, as Bethenny and Dennis claim that Jason emails them both a lot.
Dorinda
It took me a minute to get totally on the Dorinda train, but I’m on it now and I anticipate being Team Dorinda all season. Especially because she is going to stick up for Luann. I love Luann. Ramona is meeting Dorinda for Cryotherapy. Dorinda is a big fan, but Ramona has never done it so Dorinda conspires with the tech so that she will not tell Ramona how cold it is. Ramona arrives ready for one of her imaginary dates, so she is not going to try it anyway. Ramona talks to Dorinda about….wait for it…Tom. The jealousy from Sonja and Ramona is just over the top. I am not saying they wanted to marry Tom per se but they both really want to remarry. Dorinda is still hugely pissed at Sonja for all the drug allegations she keeps making about her. Dorinda will be on the outs with both Ramona and Sonja for most of this season.
Later we get a cute scene with Dorinda shopping for furniture with her daughter. I feel like her daughter has grown four years since last season. Kids grow up so fast!
Sonja’s Mad Hatter Party
Sonja told everyone to dress colorfully for the party, so Ramona obviously wore black head to toe. Sonja has borrowed the butler, Patrick Henry, for the event. Patrick Henry is a bitter little gossip. He seems to really hate Ramona. I get it. But darling, you are the help.
Sonja is still snubbing Dorinda over not inviting her to the Berkshires last year. Dorinda invites her this year, and regrets it. Where did Bethenny get a friend? Who is this Teri person? I guess she needed someone to trash Sonja’s party to in the car. Usually that is the driver’s job, so I am sure he is relieved to have an extra ear for all of Bethenny’s frenzied chatter.
Ramona tells Carole that she had invited both Dorinda and Sonja to stay with her at her Hamptons house. When Dorinda said she wasn’t coming if Sonja was staying there, Ramona uninvited Sonja. What the heck is going on this season? Why is Ramona choosing Dorinda over Sonja?Ramona tells Carole that she is wearing the horrendous black scarf around her neck to hide her hickeys. Do people really do the whole hickey thing after age 25?
Of course Sonja has a psychic at her little tea party. Ramona has to love that. It was after all a psychic in Morocco who told her that Mario was cheating on her. I wonder what gossip Sonja has fed to this psychic? And Bethenny absolutely brought a huge basket of product to place on the table for free advertising. Bethenny gives Tinsley the cold shoulder.
Oh Luann, sweetie. There were so many really fun hat options that looked great on you? How did you possibly leave that store with this one? You are already walking into the lioness’ den. And who did you bring? Luann and Bethenny are not getting along. Is Bethenny getting along with anyone?
Sonja and Luann argue over Sonja’s constant negative statements to Page Six about Luann’s marriage. I just can’t keep retyping the same old Tom drama. Bethenny literally wanders around spewing her “british humor” at everyone.
Next week: The bitchfest moves to the Hampton’s. Ramona tells Bethenny, “You’re in the press now for being naked and doing soft core porn. You’re coming across very cold ..” Dorinda and Sonja go after each other.
This show would probably have been fun to watch while half sleeping, but recapping it after being out tonight was tedious. I just couldn’t keep typing the same old fights from 2015 over and over. Sorry.
Tamara darling, your RHOBH amnesia is in full effect, Teri is fabulous, she has been on nearly every season of RHONY Betheny has been and on her spin off.
This bitter butler reminds me of most of the gays in NY i know or have met, total gossipy bitches!! Or is that most of the gay men i know across the country haha
No it is not all the gay men in the country, ha ha. They are individual people. Jesus.
Stupid comment
Wow. You need to get out more. I know many gay men in NYC. None are gossipy bitches. They are hard-working, successful men. Some are married with children. Expand your thinking.
I love that the people on the RHONY thread pick this comment up and put the OP in their place, while over on the RHOA they’re throwing the word “queen” around about Carlos unchecked. Can’t help feeling that says a lot about the audiences of these two shows….
Yeah…I’ve never watched a full episode of RHOA. Can’t stand the shouting and mangling of the English language.
Apparently it has a large viewership, Huge! Not my cup of tea though. For the same reasons you stated.
very true lol, except they will have to come a lot harder to put this gay man in my place then that doll. I can go round for round with the best of them, maybe I learned it from my gossipy bitchy gay friends ; ) lol
Everything i say is in good fun and reflecting on my life, although it wouldn’t be the first time somebody called me out or called me a horrible person on this website lol, which couldn’t be further from the truth!
The comment section here is entertainment at its best on this website, I love it!!
Y’know, I didn’t care about your original comment at all, I just made an observation about the difference in response from the commenters on this thread to those on the RHOA one. And I’m sure, as you mention, that you’re not a horrible person – but when you start calling people you don’t know “doll”, it reminded me of PK when he called Erika “honey”. It comes off as condescending.
I ain’t mad about it, I don’t think you meant any harm, it’s just another observation. I think perhaps you speak in the comments section the same way you’d communicate with your friends, and that sometimes means your words are received a different way to the way they were intended. I think when I said “put the OP in their place”, you perhaps took that to mean I was glad you were getting checked, which wasn’t my intention either – I honestly didn’t think much about the rights and wrongs of it, I was more bothered by the RHOA thread – I just meant that’s what the other posters intended to do, and I found the difference in response genuinely interesting. We’re probably all thinking way too deeply about this now lol….
I agree that the comment section here is a lot of fun. This site does tend to attract a better breed of poster, capable of stringing actual sentences together, and it’s way less tribal these days, so these discussions don’t feel like a waste of time.
totally understood your comparison to RHOA. Also it is true, i am known to type the way i speak. In person it doesn’t come off probably the way it comes off in text for sure. Glad you understand that it’s not meant to come off as condescending in the least. : )
I call people here horrible all the time with wild abandon and little concern with whether or not they really are in fact horrible people. It’s part of my charm.
hahaha and this is why we all love reading your thoughts and opinions.
As senor fag hag here art TT, I’d like to take up for DW. there are plenty of gossipy, bitchy, male gays in NYC and across the country. That butler is a shining example. He/she didn’t say that all gay men are gossipy bitches. Just most of the ones he/she knows. Get off his or her jock. This is not a moment for OUTRAGE.
But I think I might know why we were all sensey about it last night. I’m working on that post after I read the comments here. I’m a tad behind today.
I got some of your people quite worked up i see Tamara lol. As a gay man i was simply reflecting on alot of other gay men i know and love. It was not my intent to upset your wine Wednesday last night ; ) **cheers**
Well, I wasn’t upset at all. It sounded just like something some of my gay friends say. They can be viscious. Just not to me. They love me. lol.
Wasn’t Teri part of her wedding party, too?
yep, pretty sure she was the Maid of Honor if I remember correctly : )
Highly offensive comment. It seems the ‘Gays’ were just that ways towards YOU.
I feel terrible that a comment about my friends and my life offended you. How dare I speak of my life…. on that note i’m going to go downtown and have some cocktails with a gaggle of sassy bitchy gossipy gays right now #GirlBye
My mother use to say “tell me what your friends are like and I’ll tell you what you’re like.” If everyone you meet is a bitchy ole queen, maybe you’re not the social observer so much as a member of the club, if you get my drift. Bitchy Queens are often bitter and I don’t think that’s indicative of me or the gays men I know.
There can be lot of truth told in smart, pointed gay humor. It doesnt make it bitchy, though sometimes it is. Rupaul Charles is a perfect example of that kind of social commentary gay humor, it doesn’t make him bitchy, although he may be.
^^^^This!! No one ever says it as perfect as Sequoia.
Your Mother sounds like a wonderful intuitive lady.
As far as me, of course i am like that group of my friends! Sometimes bitchy, sassy, social, gossipy, dramatic. It’s one fabulous side of me that i love!! Never bitter though babe, I have a far too amazing life for that.
Im also like many other groups of friends I have, career driven, successful, studious, philanthropic, well traveled. I could go on and on and on telling you all the great things about me! There are many sides to a fine cut flawless diamond sweetie.
on a side note, MariettaMommy, you may be intrigued to know that I did a toast to you at cocktails with my friends this evening…. I then had to explain to the gaggle of martini holding gay men (1 had a beer) who you were lol
“To MariettaMommy, who finds me highly offensive, may she have have a fabulous holiday weekend”
Now can we attempt to divert the conversation off of me and back to the RHONY and the fabulous post Tamara did for us, my intent on here was not to hijack her comment feed while half-heartedly defending myself against frivolous comments lol.
Any and everyone can feel free to continue throwing darts at me this weekend if Tamara does an open forum like we occasionally get for random topics, maybe I will do some lines, Dorit party style, to keep my energy and interest up if i have to. ; )
you certainly are impressed with yourself, I’ll say that. for you. And don’t call me babe. I’m not your babe and it’s rude.
Are you just fucking with DW because I like him? I thought for sure you would come here to tell everyone to unbunch their panties.
At least someone like’s me on here haha, Let’s just say in the politics of popularity on this post im losing the election lol. I do enjoy Sequoia’s insight though on posts on your site. It may not quite be a reciprocal thing though.
A lot of bitchy Queens are full of themselves. They think it’s part of their charm. I find it tedious.
OMFG lol, you are as sensative as the hysterical people online about United Airlines, Sequoia!
I would hope everone is as impressed with themselves and thinks as highly of themselves as I do! It would be a shame to one’s self not to. Not to mention detrimental in the long run to have low self worth.
Careful or you’ll hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.like that…. babe
I am that BORROWED BITCHY BUTLER appearing several times at Sonja Morgans. Patrick Henry here. I am the executive estate manager for Sonja Morgan’s X Husbands= brother. Sonja is wonderful & honest & kind. My comments at the party were edited so none of you know the whole context of what I had to say. The title they’ve taged me with is a joke (to me) and I could give a rats ass what anyone thinks of my performance. You all take yourselves too seriously. U think u know the real characters on this show? THINK AGAIN.
It’s fun shooting & prosperous. The real untold stories I have of the REAL FAMOUS persons reads like a who’s who. Clients like Laurance Rockefeller, Jerome Robbins, Georgette Mosbacher, Anne Bass, Aaron Spelling family, Bruce Weber & Lord & Lady deRothschild.. THERE ARE THE REAL STORIES. Appreciate being able to comment- just caught this by accident on google search. Patrick Henry, III No, I’m not related to Tinsley Mortimer’s X !!!! THank God. It’s a pleasure working with and being a part of the Morgan Family. THANKS
Well that was interesting.
Tinsley is very sweet. The butler was so bitchy I loved it. Bethany made sure she came across as a huge bitch of course. So I guess she will treat Tinsley like shit all season! I love Luann and that she showed up in that awful dress and hat! Lol. She is fun and happy. They are all such stuffy bitches! No wonder why she is the one remarried!
Tinsley didn’t impress me in the magazines when she was an “It girl,” no more than the Miller Sisters did. But so far, I like her! I’m glad we get to see her on the show. This could be a very good move for Tinsley.
Bethenny will go after her like a wild dog.
What in God’s name did Ramona do with her face? They filmed and interviewed in odd order, sometimes she looks like the old Ramona, sometimes the new. Tinsley seems fun and contrite for whatever it was she did. Sonja is at least answering her door this season. Carole please run away from the B, we might begin to like you again. B just makes me feel so much better about myself, someone so judgemental and mean cannot be happy. Luanne looks radiant and Dorinda is out for some Sonja blood. They need to start running Bonista commercials during these shows, the audience and the women are aging…..
She also has the Vicki post-facelift hairdo thing going on…all messy and dirty looking. Is the bad hair to distract from the face?
Ramona looks much better with shorter hair. The longer it gets it just makes me think she is trying to come off younger and instead she looks tacky. I always feel like she is trying too hard to make Mario think she has moved on and is a new person. And you’re right about Ramona doing exactly what Vicki did after her face lift. They let their hair grow long and shitty looking and then constantly have it hanging down. It’s just ugly.
Ramona’s face and hair changes are quite distracting. During one conversation it looked like her right eyebrow was going to fly off of her face. How fun!
hahaha
Don’t ask me how I know. Ramona had her eyes done. She’s had other things, but that’s the latest one. It definitely looks different. And she didn’t need it–she’s a gorgeous lady (I won’t even say “for her age”). The hair is a bit much, I agree.
Tamra first of all I wanted to tell you how proud I am of you for getting back into the world and getting out. I have a question. We’re there many people around you in your life such as friends and family that knew you were feeling like a hermit? I’m only asking because that is the situation I’m in. I feel like I’ve let everyone i know down. By not gong to functions and/or not responding to texts or messages. I really want to get back out there but now I feel like everyone is watching me extra close. Wish they weren’t but I understand why they are but it puts more pressure on me. Ugh anyway I’ve been looking online at places to volunteer at…it’s a start! Do you have any advice on how you did get back out there? How did you handle all those watching you?
Thanks for your recap of RHONY. I’m really enjoying betheny and Carole so far. Last year they bugged me with their cool girl clique. But I really respected how they handled Ramonas odd entrance, stepping on the dog after refusing to remove shoes. What an odd reaction to not being formally introduced to Bethany’s new dog.
Anyway I really respect you and enjoy your work so any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Hi, Heathbutts! As my therapist used to tell me… there is no magic pill to give you your life back. My personal situation was basically that I had my worst anxiety from December 2016 to February 2017. There was a lot going on both online and in real life. Here, at work, I was having server issues with my site that I am still working on, a group of commenters decided to all go bat shit crazy at once and attack not just me, but my commenters, my followers on Twitter, and my family and I had to get lawyers involved and I was changing ad agencies. Just turning on the laptop was no longer a place where I felt safe. In real life, a friend of mine died quite unexpectedly, the bills for the surgery were rolling in and before I could get my 2016 taxes filed (almost done with that, went to the attorney yesterday for review) the bill collectors were calling it was a mess. At the same time the stalker next door though it was a good time to escalate his peeping tom game to include two cameras facing inside of my home. I had hoped for some help in that regard from a source who did not come through for me. At that point, I realized that I had to take the dog and flee or get up and get my shit together and handle my business. I had for those months been drinking very heavily each night, muddling through the day and waking up to the same shit every day.
I finally just DECIDED. I don’t want to wake up to the same shit every day. I don’t want to feel like shit every day. I had missed the beginning of Lent when I normally give up alcohol, but I decided I needed to do my Lent routine, no alcohol, limited sugar, taking a few vitamins, clean eating and drinking INSANELY LARGE AMOUNTS OF ELECTROLYTE WATER. When I am on a healthy diet and drink a ton of water my anxiety all but goes away. Did I mention water? Sometimes the solutions are so easy people don’t believe them. Hydration, a good multivitamin, plus D and B vitamins make a huge difference. Then I put up mirrored paper to block the cameras and began cleaning up and looking at moving options.
The thing is when you are “in the hole” getting up and cooking salmon and cauliflower and washing your face seems impossible. But if you do it, then you start taking baby steps. At this moment I have four days of dishes in my sink. I still don’t take showers without tremendous motivation. I’d rather lay down than clean the bathtub. I have miles to go. And I will probably stop going again at some point. But for now I am going. And when nice people call and ask me to do something, I’ve started saying yes. In fact, I have plans for Saturday night. I will share that event with y’all later, if it actually comes to fruition. I may even have a beer or two while I am there and break the cleanse. I haven’t decided yet. If I do, I’ll tack that back on my extended days of Lent which for me ends next Monday, or Tuesday depending on what I decide on Saturday.
So I guess my advice, is get up. Just get up. Then go drink some water. Sit back down. Then ask yourself if there is ANYTHING you can do that might make you feel better. Wash your face? Brush your teeth? Take a shower? Put clean sheets on the bed? And do that. Then sit down again and feel proud of yourself. Don’t listen to the part of your brain that says washing your face is not an accomplishment, if it is. Take it easy. Drink some more water. Then, after awhile, ask yourself that question again. Keep asking. Keep doing small little things until you feel better. Then try a medium sized thing. But start with doing things that make you feel healthier. Eat a peach. And then go drink more water.
Hope this helps. xo ~tt
Brava, TT! Whatever you are doing shows. Your site is hopping with fresh and exclusive news; you have excellent contributors, and you seem to be in a better place all around. Talk about trial by fire. “As fire tempers steel, so hardship can temper the human soul.”
Tamara, I would like to say, thanks for sharing.. I have a friend who’s dealing with anxiety,depression and more.. I talk to her daily because I’m very concerned about her. She says talking with me helps her tremendously.. She also just started venturing out a little more..I try very hard to be a good friend to her. Last year was HELL for her.. Again I just want to say thank you so very much. It’s people like you who are open and honest that helps others know they are not alone..
Your emotional self sounds like my emotional self. Baby steps and one day at a time. Thank God for spring because I will leave my room to weed, garden, cut grass and dug in dirt.
I keep meaning to say hi! Daintyfeets saw you on the Stranded comments but I wasn’t at my keyboard at the time. xo
I am super proud of you!! And by sharing your story you are helping others. Great job TT (Not that you give a fuck about anyone else’s approval).
That was beauriful
Smooch. You stood by me, made me laugh through tears more than once. Thank you.
Wow Tamara, what heartfelt, great advice for anyone feeling down. Thank you.
I can’t belive i never thanked you for taking the time to write this back to me.
I think about what you said to me all the time. Was it what you said that really helped me get out of my funk, i don’t know, but i definitely think it was a part of it.
Genuinely, thank you.
Teri and Bethenny went to boarding school together, so she’s not new to the game. If you watched ‘Bethenny Getting Married?’, you may remember Teri was her Matron of Honor. She’s a lush, but she’s super funny.
Is Teri the one who lives in Miami? I remember B. going down there to stay with her to get over Jason the First. Wow, that was awhile ago!
The Bravo amnesia is strong in this one. I don’t remember her at all. I blame Lymeopause.
Nothing much happening yet. No big storylines besides the wedding and even that isn’t a wedding by bravo. This show is just good background noise so far this season. Hopefully it picks up. I am enjoying Tinsley, too.
P.S. Team Dorinda all day!
I keep asking myself how Bethenny is any different than Kim Richards. They’re both miserable, self centered dicks, but why am I entertained by Bethenny and bothered to the point of changing the channel with Kim? Is it Bethenny’s wit or Kim’s contradictory nature of seeming weak and mean/callous at the same time? Besides being good at business, I can’t really think of any other positive attributes Bethenny has. Anyone?
Bethenny is whip-smart, insightful, and quite witty. Probably moreso than any other Housewife.
True, I hated her last year with all that slut shaming. This year she cracks 3 jokes and I like her again, lol.
Bethenny is functional, Kim is not? Bethenny would have given her eye teeth to have a supportive family that Kim has had, Kim shits on them over and over?
I think B brings out the bitch for the show – does the dry sense of humor to the extreme. I’m sure there is down time – she doesn’t just have the one friend from boarding school, etc. On her brief radio show on Radio Andy (something happened there I think, which makes me sad… it was a great show), she talked about how she had close friends from her boarding school years, young 20s. I don’t think many are in New York though.
Not so sure she would have actually- Jason and his family seemed like they wanted to be a supporting living family but she was having none of it. Of course you never know what goes on behind closed doors but in Bethany ever after it seemed she just couldn’t handle normality.
Meh. Apparent “normality” leaves a lot to be desired. Bethenny can be rude, and I don’t think she treats people very well, but it was Jason who turned into a stalker and got himself arrested (at their daughter’s school, no less).
If that’s what we call normal, Bethenny’s abnormal seems to be working out pretty well for her by comparison.
Don’t forget completely unapologetic. Neither Kim nor Beth have ever done anything wrong in their lives.
Oh come on………….she has apologized many times. She’s one of the very few that truly owns it.
I find myself liking Bethenny too. And then she totally eviscerates someone for no reason.Then I don’t like her. Then I feel some kind of way because our personalities have more in common than I’d like to admit.
I keep hoping she calls someone a twatwaffle………..LOL
She will, and it will be Tinsley.
Now Bethenney’s bizarre behavior of running around naked for the cameras is making more sense.
It clicked when Tinsley was talking about all the photographers following Tinsley and taking her pictures back in the day. Bethenney has competition now and she doesn’t like it at all. LOL Maybe this season won’t be a total loss after all.
I think the new furbabies are pups, so they’re probably gated out of the living space for housebreaking purposes 🙂
Oh, Banjo was a still sort of a pup when I got him, he trained me on being housebroken. He would never go inside a house unless he is on medication and just had his balls chopped off. In that case, it was completely justified.
Aww, little Banjo 🙂 yeah, some people are crazier about the process than others. Some dogs take to it faster than others too, I never felt the need to gate off part of my home, but I’ve seen so many people do.
My pets run my house, it’s theirs and I’m just lucky they let me live in it lol
Also, Teri is Teri Gevinson, her maid of honor from her wedding and high school or college friend, don’t remember which. She was on the Bethenny Getting Married and Ever After shows a lot 🙂
I think I’m going to like Tinsley’s presence on the show because she seems to be her authentic self, she doesn’t need the money and she may bring the light and the fun that’s desperately needed after last season. I’m not surprised Bethenny gave her the cold shoulder but I don’t think that chill will last because despite the mugshot, Tinsley still has connections of which Bethenny is well aware. According to Carole she and Tinsley hit it off right out the gate and it seems any friend of Carole’s becomes a friend of Bethenny.
Speaking of Bethenny, I already like her a lot more than last season. Her advice to Sonja to get over the Berkshires and Tom is spot on! Now if B would just take her own advice and get over her issues with Luann we could have a fun show.
I want the old Sonja back but with her finances in the crapper I think her delusions will deepen as will the drinking so it seems we’re stuck with this Sonja.
I’ve loved Dorinda since her first season on the show and expect to be team Dorinda all season because she stands her ground against B and anyone else who can’t handle a difference of opinion.
Dorinda is the kind of girl I could hang with.
Why does Bethanny have bulges on her left jawline?
The only person on the show who just irrationally rubs me the wrong way is Hannah, who is fortunately a bit player. She brings playing to the camera to a whole new level, and the spoiled child thing is not cute. I hope we don’t see that much of her this season. I was interested to hear that her father is paying for her apartment, because a) I’m glad it’s not all on Dorinda, and b) I keep forgetting there’s a living ex-husband.
I like hannah, yes she might be spoiled but I find her refreshing
I don’t get the harsh judgement of Hannah I see on Twitter. I was happy for her that her dad left a trust for her that is paying now for her apartment. I find that very touching.
Oh, I missed the part that it was a trust. Sheesh, is Hannah’s father dead, as well as Richard? And yeah, I don’t judge the help with the apartment, she just bugs me in terms of her personality. Which, again, I admit is irrational.
Hannah’s father is alive.
I need a family tree explanation then, I thought Dorinda just had the one true love that died and assumed the kid was part of that. I remember all sorts of stories about him dying and thought that Hannah had a difficult time…
Dorinda’s history is actually really interesting. Her first husband – Ralph Lynch – is Hannah’s dad. He’s a really well-known investment banker, and his new wife is another blonde Dorinda lookalike who works for the same real estate firm that Dorinda briefly worked for. When Dorinda was married to Ralph, they lived in London for ten years and she set up the cashmere shop she mentioned on the show, and I think they only returned to NYC because the marriage ended. Hannah’s dad can certainly afford to set her up in an apartment, he makes millions and gives significant amounts to charity, so it’s not a stretch for him to afford a place for his daughter.
I think Hannah was very close to her stepdad Richard Medley because Dorinda married him before she was even a teenager.
I find Tinsley very endearing. She admits to making bad choices, being self conscious, and that makes her real. Most of these other bi-otches think they have it all together. I think she will be a great addition this season, and I hope I don’t eat my words! Bethenny giving her the cold shoulder was so expected. She really thinks she is something special.
I agree 100% and I too hope I don’t eat my words which are similar to yours about Tinsley who I think Bethenny will mistakenly underestimate and judging the previews it appears Bethenny will spend most of the season fighting with Ramona which should be fun (insert sarcasm).
I cannot wait for Carole’s mental break over Trump. I believe Ramona was a Trump supporter as some unkonown to me person on WWHL calledher a racist because she liked him. Andy actually pushed back and said, that’s a bit or a reach. It was an interesting exchange.
YES! That was Adam Pally, and I was dying when he said it!
Ah, now that I do remember now that you mention it. Thanks. That will make the party all the better. #Schadenfreude
I love that they are covering a major event that was actually going on while filming such as the election. Can’t wait for the election party episode either!!
I really don’t want to relive 11/8/16 ever again, but I don’t want to miss the show, either lol
I fully sympathize with Carole, and for once, disagree with bethenny. Journalism, covering politics and world events was Carole’s profession. She won a peabody. It’s not insulting to others that Carole should think she is more informed than they are. She’s following every detail word for word, and others aren’t, so why get bent over the fact she thinks she knows more? She does. She’s not saying she’s smarter, just more well informed on the topic.
I wouldn’t care, personally.
If she was still working – she might be more well informed. How on Earth does being a journalist fifteen years ago equate to being better informed than everyone else with the same access to information that she has?
Being a journalist does imply you have skills regular people do not, like how to research and ferret out bs news vs. legit news, but that aside, i mean that this is a passion of hers, her former profession, and something she continues to immerse herself in. The other ladies do not. So considering all those things, I think it’s safe to say she’s better informed than those who don’t really care, don’t really follow, and don’t have a background in such things. Especially when Ramona is getting her “news” from fb clickbait and cable news headlines, which are unreliable, to say the least, not to mention, lacking depth. Having “access” to info doesn’t equate to availing yourself of it, or being able to discern reliable information vs. bullshit.
I am not a journalist, but I have followed politics religiously since I was young/early teens and I studied political science in college, so this is not a new interest or something fleeting with each election. I considered myself much better informed than many people I encountered during the last election who just perked their ears up when the campaign kicked off and skimmed headlines as “news”. No knock to them, I hope they stay interested and you need to start somewhere, but reading FB news bits like on a highlight reel doesn’t stack up next to someone who has been following politics in depth for years, reads and follows all the boring, complex, bits, etc.
Ramona strikes me as one of those people who gets news blurbs and regurgitates them, Carole is the exact opposite, so I agree with Carole.
I have to agree with Carole on this one. As a researcher I understand that Carole has access to different sources of information, and most likely a deeper understanding of politics than Ramona. Beth, the most judgmental character on the show, talked over Carole so that Carole’s response was partially buried by Beth’s tirade on elitism. Carole has been Beth’s pet for so long, I would love to see her step up and be her own boss.
I would argue that Carole may have been a journalist ,but she is not one now. She said that she reads each article completely, that was her source. There are many people who read articles fully, from many sources, of different points of view on each issue, to come to informed conclusions. I couldn’t tell whether Carole was saying Ramona only reads facebook articles-or if she was just dismissing her with that assumption.
I frankly dismissed Carole’s point of view, because she came across as a know it all who was not open to hear anything but her side of an issue. Some people I know- and many more today, since the election, – know we each must read/listen to multiple points of view, on all sides of an issue, to be sure to know where the truth kicks in and where the various media are telling only their side of the story.
It has become quite clear to me, only by taking this perspective and deliberately checking articles and info on all media, on multiple points of view, to even be sure you are hearing the real truth now, I vividly remember Jennifer Gilbert on S 3 of NY, saying “there are three sides of any story; my point of view, yours, and the truth. ” In our home, we now specifically watch and read both liberal and more conservative media and papers, because it has been very clear that , in recent months, and I believe, for much longer than that, media providers have deliberately chosen which stories to present, and how. It has been shocking to see which stories were simply not at all reported on some issues on some sides, , and which were completely differently presented ,depending on which side of the political spectrum they are on.
This isn’t the American press I knew , but it is deliberately manufacturing ( and deleting) facts, and stories, as a function of their politics. It has been quite an education and
very shocking. So frankly, anyone who is not seeking all sources to find the truth somewhere in the middle does not know what the truth is. Carole came across to me as like most people last fall- on all sides- they read what they wanted to read and found stories with facts to substantiate their point of view. Which is what all of us did. I trusted that each side’s press presented all the facts just with their spin. Have been amazed to learn how untrue that is now, And deeply disappointed.
Spot on, Sabrina, spot on! I feel like 95% of the articles, segments, etc. that I read or watch should not be called news but should instead of called editorial pieces. Many of them are full of opinion rather than fact. I think it’s a symptom of the internet, click bait.
I agree that Carole followed the election closely and was well informed. She is also smarter than Ramona. That doesn’t mean she has to announce that information to Ramona every time she speaks to her. Also, everyone has their own political views. Some people are more liberal, some people are more conservative, some people want big government and lots of socialized benefits, other want extremely small government. The reason that people can;t have civilized discussions about their political beliefs is because of people like Carole who believe that their political views are THE RIGHT ONES and those that agree are THE GOOD PEOPLE and that people who disagree are EVIL, AMORAL IDIOTS WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO COMPREHEND POLITICS. That’s the problem with Carol. When it comes the last election, a shit ton of agreeing to disagree was necessary among friends and of course muting a lot of people on Twitter and avoiding certain people’s Facebook accounts. 🙂
The problem with Ramona is I think she is an amoral idiot too stupid to comprehend not just politics but life, LOL. Gee, can you tell I don’t care much for Ramona? 🙂
And she is so much more unappealing each year. She is obnoxious now, back to her old, completley narcissistic self. Her only focus is on herself, and how she feels/appears/wants to look like. The little bit when the camera followed her at Sonja’s party earlyl was a quick reminder of how Bravo feels about her-they hate her too- or have zero tolerance for her. they showed her to be a classless boob. She thinks she is better than everyone. And the over apologizing () after getting what she wants) is just a means of manipulation but she is not bright enough to understand that everyone has read her act and written her off, save lost, befuddled Sonja. .She is egocentric, unintelligent self indulgent, and a complete piece of work.
I thought she could recover form divorce as a more sensitive, thoughtful person. Not a chance. Those moronic stares with the big eyes after making ridiculous statements are obnoxious.
One can only imagine what it was like to be on opposing sides in the divorce, or anything else for that matter. A battering ram.
Amen. I always ask them how their portfolio is doing after the election.
Hear, hear. Well said Tamara. I am also one of those rare New Yorkers that voted for Trump.
I never breathed a word of it at work, still not to this day, because of all the Carols.
My son is on the same boat as you. He tells me New Yorkers will not let up. He sat silently and enjoyed the election results. All carols at his job too. I cannot wait for carols election party. Wonder if she ever finds her safety pin.
Well put TT, I agree. Whether she has a valid point about being better informed or not, it’s wrong and pretentious of her to flaunt it and say it outright like that to Ramona. I would never. I would say it to myself in my head and avoid political further political conversation with the person lol
Exactly. Or just call you can ask if you can believe what an idiot Ramona is. Even here on the site when I allowed some political commentary I didn’t call out the idiots and point out how superior I am. And I thought Carole was a lot nicer than me.
The b is back for sure and hopefully someone will bring her down because I for one am sick of her, I get stressed just watching her in my tv. Also hopefully production will tell her to chew with her mouth closed, b had no class.
Bravo seems determined to get me to stop watching all the housewives shows. I am down to New York and Atlanta , only for the reunion bombshells to come. I love Dorinda’s and Luann as well. They are happy and not full of venom for the other women on the show. Bethanny’s bitchy, know it all attitude irks the hell outta me. I liked Carole when she first came on but not anymore. I am glad Bethanny’s seems over her as we don’t need those two old witches sitting around putting the ladies down again this season. I like Tinsley so far. Ramona makes me want a Valium and Sonja- just meh.
Wait, your problem with Bethenny is that she chews with her mouth open? She chews so very little, how can that even be a thing?
As I was typing that I recalled an episode from a prior season of her eating at the kitchen counter….and it is sort of coming back to me. That is one of my pet peeves, I just didn’t recall it with Bethenny.
I dated a guy for a long time that I could not convince to get decent table manners. The sex was great. So I always sat next to him at dinner. Problem solved. Sort of.
DAmn! WIsh I would have thought about sitting next to him. I usually like to look at his face and not his neck.
I’m a leg, um leg area, fondler under the dinner table. So it was a win for everyone.
I always did the foot thing!
It’s a huge pet peeve of mine and I’ve noticed a shocking amount of the housewives do it (chew and talk with their mouths full). It’s bizarre. Ramona is guilty, as well.
My friend, who happened to be from New York and I;m from California couldn’t handle it very well. Shocked when he folded his slice of pizza to eat it. Different coasts ,,different manners.
They chew with their mouths open because they can’t stop running those jaws until learn to shut up. Even if it’s been shaved down I can still recognize the Jasmine of an ass.
I’m not buying Ramona’s cover story of hickeys being the reason she was wearing that scarf. She was also wearing a turtleneck in an earlier scene. Yes, she’s an odd duck, but hickeys are ridiculous after teenage years IMO. She might as well have said she burned herself with her curling iron LOL. For someone who seems to enjoy her new tits on display, it seemed odd. My guess is she was hiding bruises from face/neck lift. Allegedly.
I would like to take Patrick the Butler to my next family reunion. I have a few people that need to be taken down off their high horse and shown the door ?……lol
I thought the butler was annoying. He seemed to think this was his audition tape for Andy. Real Butlers of Yonkers, coming to Bravo in 2018.
Tinsley was way less annoying than I expected her to be. And Bethenny is clearly ruffled by someone younger and prettier being around. She loves to pretend these ladies are older than her (the crusty vag comment was odd, given her problems last season), when she’ll be knocking on the menopausal door herself pretty soon, so no wonder she’s been tinkering with her face and jawline so much lately.
Episode 2 and I’m bored ☹ I can’t stand Ramona or Sonja, they both irritate me! And that’s it, I don’t have anything more to add ?
In a real life situation, I would never like to have staff or hired help bitch about my guests.
However, in a reality TV situation he was gold. “Who is that designer?” “Salvation Army.” Perfect!!!
Boring fights, blah blah blah.
Tinsley, for someone who seemed to bloom in the spotlight, seems very ill at ease and uncomfortable. Is it because she is shy in real life, or is she thinking, “Fuck me. Has it come to this?”
Carole not only comes across as condescending, but it also seems forced, is if she has decided that is her storyline this season. Like when one of your friends starts dating a metalhead and they start spewing off facts about Metallica, when you know her playlist consists solely of showtunes from Wicked.
Best comment I’ve read on this post! I agree 100%.
That line from the butler was the funniest line of the entire episode for sure!! Tinsley was great on her last reality show, a bit of a mess but great, I see her as one to be around for a while!!
Maybe Bravo can give Patrick Henry, the bitchy borrowed butler and Adrienne Maloof’s Catty Chef Bernie their own spin-off. I would totally watch!
Was anyone else transfixed by Sonja’s wonky botox during her conversation with Luann?
Hmm whats going on with Ramona and B? In B’s blog she mentioned how she had a reason why she didnt want to contact Ramona over the summer etc, which R was pissed about when she went to B’s place. And on WWHL it showed a clip of R laying into B… What happened?
Basically, Bethenny found out that Ramona was approached to do the Tipsy Girl thing that Sonja tried (and failed) to do with the idiot guy who has been trying to infringe on her brand for years. That’s a very short version. Ramona back out of her arrangement with the dude but did not tell Bethenny what he had planned.
Interesting. So did B know this before filming began? Usually she is guns blazing and cant fake it to invite someone over to her place etc.
Tamra, thank you for sharing your story…[in comments section above about halfway down, if someone reads this and doesn’t know what I am referring to…] enlightening and WONDERFUL ADVICE FOR ANYONE GOING THROUGH DEPRESSION…i struggle with fibromyalgia and arthritis, and find that any “invisible illness” can be so VERY frustrating esp in this society…take care, best to you…love your recaps and site, best online for real housewives, which are the only ones i look at – if i read more i would prob love them all but find that housewives almost all of the cities is enough lol anyway remember to put your needs first, thanks
At Sonja’s When B left her basket of SK merch, she made a comment about it being for the guest of honour. She said that she’d included a peach? passionfruit? margarita (some fruit flavoured alcohol) because the guest was from ‘the South’. So, if she was referring to Tinsley, who I thought was a New Yorker, the way she treated her in person looks even ruder. I think Bethenny is deeply socially awkward,