Not much happening today so I suppose it’s time to do some purple penning. I have a little bit of RHONY news but not really anything earth shattering. So let’s start with LVP and whatever she is squawking about this week.
Now let us begin to understand exactly what has transpired here as we delve into the complicated scenario that we have witnessed, the murky quagmire, where truth is scant on the ground.
Jesus Christ. Could you be any more dramatic? Yesterday, I posted about David Cassidy’s appearance on Dr. Phil to discuss his dementia diagnosis. Immediately the comments were about his alcoholism. He claims he is sober. Most of the commenters didn’t believe him. This is exactly what has been happening with Kim over several seasons. Remember the whole praying to the trash can? The slimeball boyfriend and the bag of pills? The van ride with Rinna where she was high as a kite and scary as hell? This is not a murky quagmire at all. LVP made similar allegations in Paris. This is the same old tired story line we’ve recycled for years. Is Kim sober or not, because at times it doesn’t seem like it. That’s the truth more often than not. If you are struggling with your sobriety on a reality show, your reality will be discussed. Often. By everyone.
After Mexico, I would assume Lisa Rinna came to the conclusion that the probability of Eden’s reiteration of their conversation being accurate was more likely than not.
It was captured, documented for all to see, and I suppose, as Eden remained steadfast in her opinion, it must’ve provoked her to admit that it was said. Eileen comforting her friend, stating how wonderful she is, how she always owns her stuff, is ironic as Rinna previously had been in utter denial.
Why do so few people understand the term “ironic”? Irony is a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result. Eileen supporting her friend, is not ironic it all. It is what friends do.
I seem to have trouble understanding how Lisa Rinna keeps remarking that I must be enjoying this. Yes, there was some sort of vindication from her brutal attacks last year, as we shine a light on her recollection skills, but the most important factor is that she seems relentless in her judgement of Kim.
Please. You don’t give two shits about Kim Richards. You’ve said and done much worse to Kim over the years when she was actively drinking. Rinna lying about not remembering what she said caused you to literally dance in Mexico rambling that if she is lying about saying something, then she was lying last season. No one with a functioning brain and even those of us with brains of questionable integrity believe that you were the one behind the Munchausen conversations last season. Rinna trying to lie her way out the Kim conversation in no way absolves you.
I love Kim. We started this experience seven years ago, and I bore witness to her struggles with sobriety. I know her journey has been a challenging, painful one. As she has been so successful lately in her attempt to remain sober, it must be crucifying to have people doubt you, have the doubt thrust into an arena, where it is up for public scrutiny, all because of an hour or so interaction at Kyle’s house, where there was zero evidence to give Rinna’s claims any credence.
Oh, let’s look at what LVP said about Kim in January of 2015.
I cannot fathom how one can arrive–with the knowledge that every moment will be recorded, documented in front of millions, where they are absolutely positive that interactions in a group setting are required–without one’s faculties, albeit due to drink or drugs and not expect people to comment on irrational and volatile behavior.
Now I have utmost sympathy for anyone dealing with addiction, but as we immerse ourselves in this demanding arena, the truth always comes out, so it begs the question, if we have something to hide, where we are defensive, is it wise to test our resilience in our fight against the demands that being a public figure holds us to?
I do recall a similar situation, myself, two years ago in Paris, where Kim’s demeanor was questionable, her words were slurring and she was not herself. I made the mistake of suggesting she had taken a sleeping pill to combat the demands of jet lag, almost hoping that this would be a legitimate and understandable explanation for her bizarre behavior. I was met with an angry response–how dare I insinuate that she was not committed to her sobriety? But her actions spoke otherwise.My point being is if we subject our friends to questionable conduct, aren’t we therefore justified to call it out as Lisa R. did in the car?
This is just more of LVP flip flopping on situations as it suits her purposes.
I think LR has good qualities, and I have enjoyed our friendship at times, but Harry stating that LR has always tried to help her and has total empathy for Kim is laughable if it wasn’t so ridiculous. Lisa passed her resentment of Kim to Eden, knowing that Eden was eager to immerse herself in this group of women, and with her history felt, she could speak from authority.
Well, as much as I respect and adore Mr. Hamlin, telling his wife just to speak the truth and speak from the heart is utter nonsense. When we had the conversations and assertions in Mexico, she vociferously denied saying any of those pertinent statements! Also sending texts threatening to “f— someone up” does not resemble empathy. You can misuse it and abuse it, but the truth will prevail. Her intentions are coupled with retaliation from their altercation two years ago.
I agree with you here. Rinna does not like Kim. Kim does not like Rinna. These two are very transparent on that fact. Unlike LVP and Yolanda who despise each other, plot against each other all while pretending to be friends. Rinna says what she means.
What I can’t quite digest is this: Rinna spoke openly to Eden, saying she “trusted her.” She insinuates it was a private conversation, but we all know that is not so. What difference did it make if Eden repeated it to me? Eden was protecting herself, explaining why she had been eager to get involved with talk of sobriety. Prudent? Maybe not, but after her own personal experiences, maybe she felt time was of the essence. She heard Kim was “close to dying” and felt compelled to act as she valued Rinna’s opinion.
It is certainly of interest that Eden came to LVP and not Rinna, or Eileen.
So at Carnie Wilson’s cake tasting, she retracts her defensive statements of innocence, capitulates and f—ing cops to it. Can we all give ourselves permission to make strident accusations, but as long as we “own it,” we are exonerated, free from blame? This was a beautiful example of mea culpa…a little late for my liking, but there we have it, and on we move.
Yes. Admitting to your statements that you believe to be true and owning it should end the discussion. I believe that Rinna believes everything she said. It’s up to Kim and Kyle to respond to Rinna’s beliefs. Remind me why you are so invested in this again? Oh yes, the glee of seeing Rinna back herself into a corner that you wrongly view as vindication of you. It’s not about you, LVP. It’s a situation between Rinna and Kim and to some degree Kyle. You should be as disinterested in the subject as Erika Jayne.
I totally agree with EVERYTHING you’re saying 2000%! LVP’s spin-attempt is insulting to anyone’s intelligence who has the common sense to see what’s really up just as you describe. Especially since LVP’s mindset forcefully rejects the notion of her EVER expressing accountability for her shit unlike Rinna. And THAT’s the difference.
Oh my gawd, comparing her blog from 2015? Brilliant! “Pick a lane”, LVP indeed. So over her. And Kim. She seriously needs to STFU. Awesome purple pen!!!
Hi IJC :). Boy, LVP’s words sure came back to bite her in the ass!!
Great recap TT, thanks.
Hi Cheryl:) Yep, this purple pen was everything! But, if they don’t get Kim and her tired storyline off my tv I will boycott this show again. I’m loving Erika more and all the rest of them less. I’m down to BH and NY. Almost off the Bravo teat! Lol
IJC, every Sunday (RHOA), and even Tuesday( RHOBH), I find myself sometime throughout the day thinking “is the reunion tonight?” That’s how much I retain of them. Lol.
Last year or maybe the year before on Easter, a bishop slipped and broke his hip. While reading the story I had myself a little giggle. Turns out he slipped in spilled holy water. This was the meaning of irony.
That is one definition although that is often referred to as a coincidence.
Years ago during season one I recall LVP going to the DMV with Cedric and carrying on about being around common people. She was afraid to sit among them and clearly thought herself to be superior. Each time she insults the viewers’ intelligence I’m reminded that Lisa Vanderpump thinks she’s smarter, better and more clever than the “commoners” who view the show. That’s why she is thrilled about Rinna. LVP believes the viewers are so dumb that they won’t notice that this has nothing to do with LVP’s shit last year. That Rinna being wrong in this instance doesn’t clear LVP for her nonsense last year. She’s been playing Eddie Fisher for so long that she doesn’t realize the jig is up. She’s so transparent now that I can’t believe she was ever my favorite housewife!
Actually, she used the term “eclectic” 🙂
She was my favorite too! I used to like her for her ability to make fun of herself. Not that I see her doing it as much now, but it comes off as disingenuous when you know that she will never admit to any wrongdoing or apologize for her actions.
Well, I will be the first to disagree with you, TT, and the previous commenters. Your dislike of LVP colors your every comment about her. I think it WAS ironic that Eileen praised Rinna for always telling the truth when you all (yes, even you, TT) agreed that Rinna remembered what she said to Eden and lied about it. I have grown to dislike Rinna a LOT through the last two seasons and I used to be a fan. I still like LVP…I see that she can be shady at times, and I like it. That is all.
Bam, cosign concur and chime in, LVP can gloat all she wants, I 100% think Rinna was manipulated by Eileen last year into Lymeopause Munchausen because LVP dared to say the word AFFAIR. Rinna is lacking of story line unless it is stirring up shit on everyone else. What has LVP done? PLENTY. I will always admire and love her if only for her work on behalf of animals. As a dog owner I get what she means when stating she likes animals more than people, so do I.
How the hell did Eileen get dragged into the Munchausen thing? It was between Vanderpump, Rinna and Kyle. Eileen had nothing to do with it. Talk about dislike coloring an opinion.
Eileen wanted Rinna to say LVP was behind “munchausen”. She was mad at LVP over “affair” and wanted to distract from her marriage being a storyline.
Eileen never questioned Yolanda. Her and Erika and Katherine were supportive of her.
Well, then, why the double standard? You like shadiness when it’s on LVP’s part, but not from Rinna. Could it be that your adoration of LVP is coloring your perceptions of Rinna?
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I am quite sure it is my adoration just as it seems to be yours for Rinna. Duh. None of them are intrinsically evil thank God. If the worst thing we can find to disagree about is shadiness then yes, I will take it. The last bastion of housewife civility to some extent. And FYI, Kim is fair game for the women, she has allowed this to play out on tv and although I wish her the best I don’t think she should be shocked or dismayed that her sobriety is a topic. I just feel that like TT says, Rinna doesn’t like her and Kim doesn’t like Rinna. BFD. I love LVP for a myriad of reasons.
I think Rinna is shady and vulgar. She is a liar and her waxing last year and this year her behind a foot from PK and the other men was disgusting as she tried to mimic Erika. Eileen has no storyline other than her enabling Rinna. I don’t blame LVP for gloating. Rinna is probably very nice but on this show she comes off way too needy and must be the center of attention.
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I think LVP refers to the concept of dramatic irony- a situation where the characters believe something to be true, but the audience knows the truth of the situation. As in Rinna’s denials, her friends believe her, and the audience knows she has said these things. As to the idea, that Rinna has no memory of, not just the wording of a sentence but in fact an entire conversation, where she talks about another human being being close to death, has no relationship to last season when she claimed to remember verbatim a phrase used in a conversation months before, is ridiculous. This speaks to the credibility of her memory, and I have to wonder if there is something medical or chemical wrong with her. It seems she could not face owning it at first. I think LVP’s schadenfreude in this situation is certainly not more than the enjoyment of her cast mates last season.
LVP has lost a lot of my respect this season. It’s funny because Rinna was really the one who stood to lose the most in this incident, but LVP sticking her oar in really backfired.
Exactly. Rinna was imploding all on her own! All LVP had to do was sit back and watch. Yet, her interference in everything ended up helping Rinna escape relatively unscathed.
I’m an LVP fan, not because of the facade she projects but because of her machinations. The more transparent she gets, the better. Especially since she doesn’t realize it. It’s very Emperor’s New Clothes & I love it!
I no longer watch this show except occasional peeks for real estate porn. The storylines are insipid . Last year I could barely put up with Lyme disease and munchausans, can’t spell it, but a rehash of Kim Richards addictions -no gracias. I don’t care what Rinna said, did not say etc. Boring ass storylines. What little I saw of Eden and Dorit, none too impressed.
Wonder if LVP is envious of Eileen and Rinna for the fact they both made it as actresses, and that dream for her, didn’t come to fruition. Hmm.
Eileen is an actress and I can see your point (although on a pretty terrible soap), Rinna hawks crap on QVC and is in adverts for products others wouldn’t advertise, nothing to be jealous of there….
I saw Rinna on a real good Lifetime movie. She was the mistress to her new best friends husband and neither knew. Lol
Lisa Rinna was HUGE on Days of Our Lives. She originated the role of Bille Reed, Bo Brady’s new love interest.
If you didn’t watch Days, you wouldn’t know how big of a deal this was. Even if you didn’t watch, everyone has heard of Luke and Laura on GH. Bo and Hope were much the same.
Lisa was so damn good, even those of us who were die hard Bo and Hope people fell in love with her.
I think she only left the show because she and Harry wanted kids.
Omg!!! Was so into Days back then..good memory!! and yeah Rinna stood out. I never forgot her! Eileen either, though not so much and I always remembered her as a mean character? so what a surprise to find out how genuine she is. Didn’t watch many soaps but Days was my ride or die back then and extremely popular. We didn’t have RHOBH in those days.
I think it is obvious that Eden went to LVP because she had warned her off of continuing down this road with Kyle and Kim. Clearly she was looking to explain her motives, to show that the idea originated elsewhere- something Rinna should get, she spent all last season attributing her words and motives to others. Eden had mentioned that Rinna would avoid her or leave when the topic arose and had she any real knowledge of Eileen? Had we seen even a single scene of Eden and Eileen without the entire group? So why would she go to either of them?
Lisa Rinna talks a lot. I find it believable that she wouldn’t remember what she said in a given situation because she says SO MUCH and it’s so off the cuff. I think she’s probably gossipy more for entertainment than ill intent and this is how she gets herself in trouble all the time. And then since the situation with Kim is all over the place, you could equally argue that she’s sober or not sober based on this behavior or that. She said she was mostly sober. So she questions it, but sees improvement. I don’t think she’s ever going to get over that car ride though.
I remain a fan of both Lisa’s. They are exactly the type of housewives I want to see. I appreciate both for their snarky comments and their good humor.
I agree KaraW, Rinna is a horrible person (on this show) but makes good TV. Her talking heads often make the episode watchable. However, LVP is the only housewife actually always (since season 1) doing something (restaurants, shows, etc.). Yolanda was sick and has daughters (and had the king), Brandi was drunk, Kim was Drunk, Cammille had 5 nannies, Taylor had her husband, Rinna once per season sells clothes and has husband, and so on. And this goes on through entire franchise. With LVP you see her business grow, and guess what, so far IRS is not interested in her! Successful housewife it is 🙂
Rinna never owns anything until she’s faced with the facts. And seriously Kim snd LR have had enough conversations that there shouldn’t be an issue anymore between them. But whatever..it’s all LVP’s fault
I don’t think anyone here said anything is LVP’s fault. Rinna lied about her “amnesia” and her mouth got her in trouble. She eventually came clean and gave a public apology.
The fact that LVP thinks that Rinna’s apology to Kim somehow absolves LVP of all of her Munchausen discussions and behind the scenes takedowns of Yolanda that she denies. LVP doesn’t own her behavior. She doesn’t apologize for it and when she sees Rinna do it she seems to claim that as a personal victory for herself.
LVP uses every situation to try to validate herself. She is not a part of this fight but she sure likes picking whatever team suits her interest at the time.
I think the reason why LVP thinks Rinna’s convient amnesia absolves her from last season’s mess is because it shows reveals a problem with the credibility of Rinna’s memory. It seems very odd that she could be so sure of the wording of a single phrase in a conversation dating months before but not remember an ENTIRE conversation she FILMED at the most, weeks before. If she did remember but was lying for whatever reason than the issue is revealing herself as someone who manipulates others and then lies about it. LVP has not changed teams… she has always supported Kyle… which Kyle reciprocates in a lukewarm fashion. I think Rinna should have admitted to saying it, said this is what I think and if you don’t want anyone to discuss your behaviour then don’t come on the show and pick fights. I was most disappointed in Kyle who seems to have returned to enabling Kim. Telling LVP to pick a lane, was disloyal to someone who defended her sister (game night) when she did not.
Are we watching a different show?!
LVP has not always supported Kyle and her attitude when there were rumours about Mauricio cheating was not that of a ‘friend’.
Sorry, I’ve been a fan of LVP since the show began. You obviously don’t like her and find fault in everything she says or does and I accept this about this blog.
Just like I accept that you fawn over Kenya. Even though I personally do not like her, you accept and defend everything she says and does and preach likes its the gospel in her defense.
BTW, not everyone believes LVP was behind the Munchausen disaster. I still believe that it was Rinna trying to cover her ass and implicate both LVP and Kyle. Eileen was the one who wound her up and convinced her it was LVP.
LVP admits to being a manipulator next week. She’s complementing Eden just before the reunion starts; get ready Rinna they’re coming for you.
Dorit can’t remember anything for the 2nd time this season.
Kim and her, “if you don’t support me 100% then I’ll blame you if I relapse”, surely needed her two enablers (Kyle and LVP).
Well if it’s ok for Rinna… then it could work for other cast members… lol maybe that’s were Rinna go the idea!
I think LVP is so used to running the episodes and kids on PumpRules that she trying to run the direction of the episodes on #RHOBH. But way to call her out TT. You nailed it! Kyle got it right with “pick a lane” but I would love for just one person to look straight in Kim’s eyes and tell her to SHUT UP! All the lies she told in all the seasons and she won’t let this Rinna lie go already?
Back to LVP I also love her but the fact that she thinks we are too stupid to realize what she is doing ‘behind the scenes” will shock her when it catches up with her one day. The fans will let her have it because Andy loves his… I want to say cash “cow” but I just can’t use that word in describing LVP ( British thing) so I will say “money maker’ and we all know he’ll never say anything to her for fear of her “Bobbi Fisher” ways ( she is known to have…allegedly) Not that she would do anything to Andy but I’m sure to this day no one still has any idea where Cedric is….lol
Also remember when Stassi said to Lisa “it’s what you do” (relating to making people kiss her ass or be gone) in S3 of PumpRules and she wasn’t allowed back until ep.13 of S4..lol Lisa still dislikes Stassi ( with what I think is good reason) but like Kristen she knows they are good for the show, so she tolerates them. I really think that LVP wants everyone no matter what show she is on to kiss her “British ass” and if they don’t…hello…. look what she is doing to Rinna this season. I’m sure if she didn’t want a part on Eileen’s soap so bad then she would be after her too. #justsayin She is damn good at this show business thing. Whenever she senses we “the fans” may be a bit peeved at her, she shows us another new pet that she has just adopted…seriously…lol
Thanks for this TT. Excellent purple pen! xo
I had forgotten about Cedric! Apparently he was on a Kate Casey podcast a couple of weeks ago, and he’s back in London working in guest services with a global hospitality company. I could see him being a concierge or something like that.
“If you haven’t anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me.” For me, that quote fits perfectly where LVP is concerned.
Phenomenal Purple Pen. <3
Thank You!
You said everything I couldn’t put into words perfectly! Honestly I think she’s (LVP) leaving the show cause the jig is up and she can’t pull the strings anymore. Instead of handling her stuff last season she wouldn’t own up- now watching lisar do it and LVP hasn’t learned a thing. I too used to be a big fan and sad to see LVP so dysfunctional. N all that crown stuff?? Think she’s secretly jealous of Erica though Erica is not vying for her title shell get it anyways because she’s real. Dysfuctional LVP is running away. Bye dysfunctional LVP. Don’t Let the door hitcha especially after your dog show flops in the ratings.
Katie has serious problems and needs help. She’s maddening and doesn’t have a clue. IF she keeps up her nagging she will lose her BF.
I totally agree TT.
LVP is still guilty of all sorts of machinations last season and Rinna lying this season is irrelevant (and I’m not a Rinna fan. I think her behaviour this season has been idiotic).
Vanderpump and Kim’s detente is purely tactical – they have a common enemy!