This episode is starting out promising. We are already packing for the trip to Punta Mita. It sounds like Rinna and Eilleen will be flying down a day behind everyone because Delilah is walking in NY Fashion week.
First Eden gets to see LVP’s closet. I would like to point out it is miles above Heather Dubrow’s closet. I do think the Dubrows have more money though. LVP has a gorgeous patio outside her master. This is where Eden and LVP have tea. Have we ever had a scene here before? Eden swears that she has never second guessed Kim’s sobriety. Really? She would be the only one who hasn’t if that is true. Eden is telling on Rinna to LVP. LVP has an ally against Rinna now and she could not be happier with the way things are going.
We have a dueling scene with Kyle and Rinna. Rinna can’t stop buying stuff at Kyle’s store. Rinna explains to Kyle that Eden is projecting her own relationship with her sister on to Kim and Kyle. Rinna is not owning up to all that she has said. Rinna says that Eden is coming from a good place.
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Delilah is walking in Tommy Hilfiger. Rinna can barely contain her excitement. Delilah is a bit worries there will be drama between Rinna and Yolanda. Gigi was a part of the concept for this particular line and will open and close the show.
Camille’s daughter Mason is also walking in NY Fashion week so she meets up with Rinna. Kelsey still refuses to speak to Camille and co-parent. Rinna talks about her trepidations about being with the girls in Mexico. Camille says that Rinna needs to step away from the Kim and Eden situation.
Eileen is not going to NYC it seems. She is going to a therapist about dealing with all of the grief she has gone through. I hate when they televise therapy. This one seems pretty raw. It seems silly for her to be a day behind the others for a therapy session. What is better therapy than a gorgeous rental in Mexico?
Off to Mexico
Sadly, PK is going. UGH. Erika seems to think she is going to get a burrito in Mexico. She’s not. Real Mexican food is not at all like our Mexican food. Real Mexican food is generally covered in brown mole. At least in the authentic restaurants. When I went, I ate a lot of whole grilled fish on the beach. That was fantastic.
RELATED POST: The real time post about filming in Mexico.
The house in Punta Mita is beautiful. There is minimal discussion over who gets what room because Maurico is making the assignments. It’s a business trip for him since he just opened a branch of The Agency there.
LVP doesn’t want to get in the sun, or in the water so she is not going to Jet Ski. But Kyle is taking Dorit on hers and Erika is going solo. Erika goes FULL OUT right from the start. Kyle is overly cautious. Erika takes an early tumble but gets right back on. Erika says it’s her Georgia redneck coming out in her. Got a Jet Ski? Go fast! Got a car? Go fast! Kyle freaked out and immediately went to see if Erika was okay. Erika’s response. “Yeah, of course!” Kyle was also worried about Erika’s sunglasses which she was smart enough not to wear.
LVP starts talking to Kyle privately on the most beautiful walkway ever on the grounds of the home. She tells Kyle about Rinna saying she doesn’t think Kim is sober and that Kim is near death. The enabler comment really got to Kyle. Kyle is pissed that Rinna didn’t own up to what she was saying about Kim when they were at her store. And here comes the best scripted line of the night. Kyle says Lisa Rinna needs to sew her fucking lips shut and LVP responds with, “You’ll need a lot of thread.” Kudos to the writers.
Maurico says they are eating tuna for dinner. He caught it yesterday. No one believes him but he claims to have receipts pictures. I love this scene, it’s just so pretty. Erika looks amazing and has an intricate braid. Looks like she flew her glam squad down. She talks about how she’s great at fishing. Again, it’s a Georgia thing. I used to go fishing when I lived in Tallahassee, often with I guy I was screwing with and then I tried it a couple of times on my own. My problem is I need someone to take the wiggly fish off the hook for me. I solved this but just cutting the line with the fish in the cooler and stringing on another hook. It’s much easier to dehook the fish once it dies.
At the dinner table, Maurico’s providing the meal causes someone to bring up Harry Hamlin’s cooking skills. Kyle points out that Mauricio, even when they were dirt poor wanted to hire a handyman to do the things that needed to be done around the house. So Kyle ended up honing her handyman skills. Maurico told her there are literally no Jews who do that sort of thing. Is this why the Jews don’t like Jesus? Because Jesus was a carpenter. I’m just saying. The tuna is a big hit.
Kyle and LVP announce at dinner what Rinna has been saying about Kim. Was Eden really not invited to this shindig? Because Eden and Kim are the primary topics of conversation and neither of them are there.
Then PK of course tries to put in his two cents even though he knows NOTHING about anything being discussed. This leads to Dorit telling the Xanax in the smoothie story replete with a discussion of Rinna’s ziploc baggie of pills. This show is a lot like Big Brother. You need to be the first up and the last to bed on Big Brother or people will plot against you. On RHOBH if you are the last one to arrive, you will be discussed to death until you get there. They also learn that Eden takes Xanax as well. Erika is the only one who says she doesn’t have enough facts to feel either way about it.
The next day, Kyle is pissed at Rinna and it is almost time for her to arrive with Eileen. When she does arrive, everyone is in or near the pool eating. LVP appears to be in a negligee. Kyle is in the water in a swimsuit. Erika has on an XXpensive t-shirt and cut off jean shorts. Rinna comes in happy and greeting everyone and Kyle ignores her.
Wow, the preview was for the rest of the season. It looks like a lot of shit hits the fan when they go to Hong Kong. PK and Dorit make Erika CRY! I am FURIOUS about that. Next week everyone comes for Lisa Rinna and she’s crying too. Bitches.
Rinna needs to OWN what she has said .
ugh, rinna!!! “I don’t know why Eden is obsessed with kim…” really?? really?? I’m paraphrasing of course but she said something to that affect. I hate pk. He is so obnoxious. lvp has these tools going after Erika but he’s fixing to get a whole lotta hate coming his way for messing with Erika.
Was it just me or did they all seem a little cold toward Erika? They seemed to be excluding her in conversations.
I sometimes think that with Erika, but it’s hard to know if they’re doing it to her, or if she’s doing it to herself. This thing about her being aloof and cold has come up a few times, and she owns it proudly, so even if it is the other ladies excluding her I doubt she much cares.
I agree with you. I think Erika’s own iciness gives the appearance that she is being left out from the crowd but really she is cutting herself out of the mix, and probably could not care less about it. I always get the impression that Erika is one of those people who just can’t be bothered, by anything.
I just don’t think Erika wants to pretend she is friends with people she doesn’t like. She likes Kyle, She likes Eileen. She likes Rinna. That’s about it. The rest of them she tolerates.
F Rinna! It’s not okay to say such terrible things about someone and not be honest about it. It bothers me that she allowed Eden to take all the heat on that. She played her like a fiddle.That’s straight bullshit and she needs to be dragged through the fire for that.
i was also annoyed that she had the nerve to write in her blog that she didn’t remember saying that. Really bitch?! However when Dorit said the same thing, she’s a liar.
Look, I am a HUGE Rinna fan. but I agree with you..
Same here, that was just plain bs. The fact that she said such extreme things to Eden in the first place, nevermind playing dumb to Kyle when she brought up why Eden was so intrusive…just not kosher, Rinna.
I don’t blame Rinna for not liking Kim, I don’t really either, but if you promise Kyle you’re going to butt out of her sister’s business and not speak about her, you should it or face the consequences. Don’t play dumb.
This is the Rinna we now know and have seen in action for a couple of years. As she searches for something to talk about, since she won’t allow any of her issues to be mentioned, she goes after an issue that to be honest, they are all well aware of and focused on, but she discusses.
This year she is just more overt and more aggressive, with the “near death” nonsense. Last year it was YO and the “M” word, and her disease, which they all felt the same way about. Rinna takes it up and then “takes it back” after getting the dialogue going, as she did with Yo last year. Last year she revered sides on the issue in a few days. this year she pretends to “not remember” , while reversing direction, as she did on WWHL the other night.
Rinna stated that she is done talking about Kim this year, but she said it before next week’s show is viewed, knowing what is to come, and preparing in advance to try to be innocent. Again. Next she ( and Eileen) will blame LVP or someone for being manipulative or something ) as she did last year. It is a clear, say it, duck and run for cover strategy. just before she takes it in the chin this time for lying, while being accused of a pill popping problem or at least Xanax in smoothies, with a bag of garbage pills ( apparently straight from Yo’s closet) that she NEEDS to carry with her just in case.
But how many are prescription, that she carries without the scripts?
So Lisa R gets the bad edit scenes of the moment, and we see that Erica is about to have her own bad moments- and look pretty off as she does it.
Most of it is prescriptions format for the series. The problem is that Rinna has taken her issues to such an extreme with Kim, that it is impossible to believe for an instant she doesn’t remember ANY word of it let alone these, when she is manipulating Eden, who falls hook line and sinker for it.
Rinna handed a very gleeful LVP a loaded AK47 this season with her Kim meddling. Just stupid. And as for trusting Dorit with her ‘bag of pills’ *sigh*
l agree with Erika. You can’t trust any of these bitches!!
Lisa Rinna is unfortunately going to try to backtrack and stand up to Kyle, which is what I wish she would do. In my perfect world, she would say, “Yes, Kyle, I said that about Kim, and I believe every word of it.” If Kim (or Kyle) don’t want people publicly speculating about Kim’ sobriety, then there’s an easy solution: stay off reality television.
That really would be ideal. Own it! I said and thats my opinion of the situation or thats how I see it from my (limited) viewpoint. Period.
Unfortunately that wont happen and Rinna will backtrack and apologize.
But the pure joy that LVP had in telling Kyle that Rinna called her an enabler…..oh the joy! Look Kyle I had your back, now I have a friend on the show besides Eden & Dorit.
I love how it never assumed that Erikas husband will attend any party or event unless its in his own home. Clearly he has no time for this BS, unlike PK, who is becoming the Peter Thomas of this franchise.
Did anyone else sense the sarcasm in Mauricos greeting to Kyle in Mexico. As she smothered him with affection and told him how she missed him, he said, “I know its bn so long” then he later told Erika he arrived the day before.
One last thing, Kyle said Eileen stayed behind to work. I dont think she stayed solely for therapy. Something tells me that scene wasnt even filmed the same day. Man, I always want to call her Ashley Abbott and i havent watched Y&R in 10 years.
At least Peter Thomas was hot.
Uh… he was?
HA! That was my response, but I have to say I have a few female friends that did find Peter Thomas attractive in some way. In what way I don’t know.
Noelle! She is KRISTEN DiMiera!!!!
I miss her so much on #DOOL They are focusing on the very young actors now and most of them are just horrible. Or just millennials. Whatever.
I’m waiting on Rinna to say LVP manipulated her into saying those things. Then for Eileen to jump on the bandwagon and remind everyone LVP still hasn’t apologized to her.
Rinna’s true colors are showing. Her continual persecution of Kim Richards is totally inhumane and taking advantage of a vulnerable Eden shows her for who she really is. LVP has her affectations but Rinna’s continued cruelty to Kim this season absolves LVP of so much Rinna accused her of last season.
Erika says she is not sure of the facts in this episode. Be interesting how she feels now that she had seen the footage and actions of the real Rinna.
Will be an interesting reunion.
Unless Lisa doesn’t actually believe the things she says about Kim, I don’t really get the outrage, especially not with terms like “persecution,” “inhumane,” and “cruelty.” If Kim and Kyle do not wish to publicly discuss Kim’s addiction, that’s totally within their right. But they have no right to demand that other people refrain from talking about it.
Especially when they put Kim back on a reality show right after she filmed another show that ended with her leaving in an ambulance while being obviously on something the entire time she filmed.
While I am extremely sympathetic to Kim, I feel like she makes a specticle of herself on these reality shows. I think it is time for her to leave the entertainment industry and perhaps write a book about her life with a ghostwriter or something. Or just be a grandma. I’m sure that her family can take care of her finances. It’s best that she back out of the spotlight. She’s had a long career. It’s time to retire.
I agree TT 100%.
Rinna said that to Eden on camera, so of course she knows she’ll get called out and doesn’t care as long as she gets that paycheck. Rinna’s daughter is not model material. Since the Hamlin family is prone to addiction issues, it is irresponsible for Rinna to encourage her daughter in this field, IMO.
Why are you always such a cunt? Delilah walked in Tommy Hilfiger. Stop maligning the children. You are a cunt.
She’s short!!! Only reason she is modeling is because of the HW show. As far as “C” word, it takes one to know one.
She is short. You’ve got me there. And takes one to know one RIGHT BACK ATCHA! 🙂
What a stupid comment, her daughter is beautiful.
She’s cute. Takes more than that to be a model starting at the top.
I mean whose first runway show is Tommy Hilger?
WHY AM I AGREEING WITH YOU? HELL HAS FROZEN OVER.
@Spunky – I agree. She’s really pretty but model? No. Seems designers are into using celebrity’s children these days. No wonder they get treated like shit by real models.
Well, heck, if the Jenner/K’s can take over the world, minus talent , intelligence, education beyond age 16, or any perspective beyond that of their grabbing, attention seeking mother, , wh can;t try? Add Chris’s DEAR buddy Yo , and the Hadids can too , why not? This is ridiculous- for Gigi to rise like this is nuts. Four/five years ago the discussion was about how many almonds she could eat, for goodness sake. Good timing, for sure. Of course Rinna would try. Interesting- Kyle’s kids are in SCHOOL.
These are my random thoughts…
Erica is just so beautiful. She looked gorgeous when she was jet skiing with very little makeup or at least the illusion of no makeup. She has become my favorite housewife. She makes a great narrator of the show.
Lisa V: I don’t want to see a nip slip. Please wear clothes that try to cover your boobies. I hate her hair this season. It wasn’t a good look in the 80’s and it is most certainly not a good look now.
Eileen: I loved her hair, makeup and the dark blue/green outfit she wore in her talking head tonight. Please stop the televising of her therapy. It was very raw and sad. I felt like I was invading in her private moments. She is too good for that.
PK and Dorit: He is so icky. He and his dumb wife aren’t interesting or compelling. Her boobs look weird too. Please Bravo, make them a 1 season wonder. I get such a perv vibe from him. Gross. Also, stop being passive aggressive about the two beds in your room. We get it. You like to have sex. I just threw up in my mouth with that thought. Dorit, be lucky you have 2 beds. If I was you I would thank Mauricio for saving you from such an unpleasant experience.
The scenery was stunning. That is what I love about this show. Too bad they have to resort to segments about therapy sessions. Less of that, more beautiful vactions.
I don’t know why wealthy British women of a certain age do that: move to LA, become stuck in the 80’s, dress like they’re in the cast of Dynasty and speak with that horrible, “You all think I sound like the Queen but really I’m from Croydon” accent.
Perhaps their idea of L.A. is stuck in 80’s movie’s? Or they think they have to be Jackie Collins? I dunno…
Yass!
It annoys me too, when people won’t update their style at all over the years. It actually makes them look older trying to look just the same, as when they were much younger.. LVP didn’t look too good in all that black either. Even my husband commented she looked like a witch, and he usually totally ignores these shows. Rinna kinda does the same thing with her hair, but at least her clothes are current. My suggestiins for LVP is to dress less formal, with color and current style. Ditch the false eyelashes and hit the gym a bit more. And get a new hair style for christ sakes. She doesn’t necessarily have to go short but have a style instead of a mop. Change up the color roo, maybe add some bangs. I dont think it’s gonna happen though.
That whole business about the beds was so weird, were they not both king size beds? I’m pretty sure Mauricio said they were. Why couldn’t they just share a king size bed? It’s not like it’s a room with two twin beds for god’s sake.
I’ve never understood why people can’t grasp the simple notion of a PRIVATE conversation. Eden never needed to take on Kim or Kyle, just because she heard Rhinnas opinion of them. If it was so dire and important let Rhinna take it on. And Eden didn’t need to repeat everything Rhina had confided to LVP either. That was a betrayl and very un sober like gossip to curry favor. Eden did a complete about face “I would never doubt someones sobriety”. What the hell? Whatever! Erika was spot on telling Rhinna that you cant ever really trust anyone, when Rhinna admitted she had felt she could speak freely with Eden and had trusted her. This is my motto as well. Trust no one. And also don’t get involved in other people’s lives. Let Kyle and Kim have eachother. Women are sneaky and two faced and men are predatory so basically Erika is right.
Exactly! I’ve told people things in confidence that they ran back to tell to others. Trust no one. But now, Rinna needs to own that she said those things. In my opinion, Rinna gave to Kim as good as she got. Kim’s one nasty bitch and gets a pass.
I do think Kim is near death. The next time she falls off the wagon, who knows? It gets more and more dangerous every time she relapses. She would be ruining her liver and damaging brain cells. You can only dodge that bullet so many times. Rinna knows this.
I actually tend to agree about Kim- sorry, Kyle, but she isn’t off the meds.
I am always glad when Kyle gets a respite as Kim settles in for a bit but the combination of her lawsuits/attacks just when filming , with Kingsley( and lies/coverup with the resulting lawsuit after endangering the bite victim) ,the episodes of “hidden” recurrences in ambulances, hospital stints,etc, even while pretending to be well on other TV shows- such a farce, clearly show she is unable to handle any level of pretend sobriety for any length of time- because she will not confront the real issues and get the help she needs. Add her desperation for money , reported searching for drugs on the street, disrespect for the courts, any authority, – Kim has not hit bottom and has not truly gotten through rehab, as a result.
She makes up her own rules as she goes along and I suspect there is a ton behind the scenes we don’t see, which include demanding time on the show, on her terms, etc., etc. Nothing has truly changed- and we can tell Kyle does what she believes she can to make things as best as Kim will agree to. In the end, they even tried psychiatric holds, that she self-discharged. Kim is headstrong, very ill and self indulgent, and there is little Kyle can do at this point, beyond what they have tried. Save one thing- get her off this show.
Because this is charade. She won’t let others discuss it but it is all Kim will discuss/or can, for that matter. She doesn’t belong on TV, until she is truly sober, with a real story to tell and prove once and for all. . To the best of my knowledge, we have never seen her sober, without many a med. I don’t think Kim either knows what that is or is willing to consider trying it. She is so disconnected from the world, and in her own mind, with wildly immature thinking, that she doesn’t realize the world has moved on to other issues, and this is neither of interest nor is she making progress. Why should anyone care if she doesn’t? She loves the attention but , truly, now it comes only from people who want this topic to be done, on RHBH.
She is very selfish, self-indulgent and delusional. Kim could care less what any of this costs anyone who loves her- she just demands it all be her way. And makes the family miserable if they don’t comply. I ‘m sure Kyle is trying to find a balance that keeps the press away from Kim’s truth , as Kimberly shared this summer that Kim demands of all her kids, but the reality is nothing is better. She has the mindset of a child and is unwilling to grow up and be responsible to those who have lived life with her, accommodating her failure to mature or be responsible. . .
But Rinna could care less. Kim’s issues just keep them talking so as to avoid them discussing her own issues. No one is interested in seeing Kim period, because she continues to self-destruct. On her terms. And not one viewer needs to hear another repeat of the same conversation, just spoken by someone else, again
Kyle, if you are reading, I hope this helps make the point to her.
Kyle is riding Kim’s problems all the way to the bank.
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I agree Donna. I think Rhinna isnt shockingly off the mark with Kim, and I don’t feel sorry for Kim anyway. She was and has been very nasty to people, and Kyle even admitted that, only she called it COMPLICATED. I understand it’s a reality show and some conversations are on camera, but the whole premise of the show is its supposed to be, people going about their life and their reality at that time, on that day. We’ve all seen people do this, though. They listen and go along with the person they’re talking to and everything is just dandy, and then later on they repeat the whole fucking thing with relish, to a different person who has a different angle or alligience, and now they’ve caused the first person to have a bunch of trouble with numerous people. Why say anything? In other words they threw the first friend under the bus. Eden didn’t need to go into all that depth, and why the hell did she take someone else’s views on people she didn’t even know, to heart in the first place, and decide based on that alone, she should pounce on Kim and Kyle. I make my own decisions on people, dont believe every thing I hear, and don’t sell out someone who is telling me their feelings on something. If I base my actions on gossip or someone else’s perceptions, and later on regret it, than I OWN that.
No no no. How is a conversation PRIVATE when you have cameras in your face? You are also clearly forgetting that Rinna encouraged Eden to invite Kyle to lunch so she could discuss it. She also tagged along so she could witness it all. Then sat there is silence, knowing damn well what she did. Then straight up lied when asked by Kyle if anything was shared with Eden. Eden is clearly projecting because she lost her own sister and needed to take a step back but let’s not pretend that Rinna didn’t set this whole shit up.
The one thing I hate is a liar and Rinna is a liar!
Agreed. There is no expectation of “privacy” when you’re on a reality show and having a convo in front of a camera.
I think you’re confusing “privacy” in general versus a “private conversation” within the context of a reality show. Yes, of course the conversations are not private in the standard sense of the word, but there’s a difference between a conversation being edited and aired months and months after the fact and one in which someone goes within a day or two and tells everyone what you said.
If anything, it was Eden who threw Rinna under the bus. Eden was gung ho about inserting herself into Kim and Kyle’s drama, and when she did and got smacked down for it, she blamed Rinna. That’s b.s.
Oh Lisa Rinna, I liked you so much. Now you’re making it so hard to still like you. Too bad the sh*t has already been done. Damn it, why oh why.
I hope they lay off Eileen now tho.
And I wan’t to smack whoever makes Erika cry. Smack them hard.
Bitches because Rinna gets what she gives? Oh well.
I’m not happy that these “celebrities” have daughters that leap-frog over girls who’ve been working their asses off in the modelling world only to be shoved aside for some brand recognition. Nepotism bothers the hell out of me.
I believe it was briefly mentioned that Eileen had to work and would be joining them later. She must have been scheduled to film that day and went to the therapist after?
Dorit is really blowing the Xanax story way out of proportion. Lisa R. said she HAS put them in a smoothie, not that she ALWAYS does. I don’t understand (cuz I’m not an addict) why Eden taking Xanax is a big deal? She was an alcoholic. She doesn’t drink. I don’t consider the odd prescription med the same thing. It’s not like she’s taking the pain meds of her dying of cancer ex-husband and not knowing what it will do to her.
The rest of the season looks killer.
Oh, and in my opinion, Kyle is an enabler. You don’t have to see them 24/7 to make that call. The fact that Kim is still on the show proves that.
What is LVP thinking with the funeral garb in that photo in Mexico? You are on vacation at a lovely beachside resort! And, yes, addicts do have prescribed mess. I was in a year long rehab program and the addicts with medical issues did take prescription meds that were doled out by staff.
It’s a bit shocking because most, not all, people in sobriety believe sobriety to be abstaining from all mind altering substances. Alcohol is a drug and often goes hand in hand with others, unfortunately. Some people take a hard line and say their sobriety only pertains to their drinking, not other drugs, but it’s the vast minority.
You just won’t find that many people in a program like aa who are cavalier about taking such medications.
I was completely surprised because by the way Eden spoke/acted, I thought she was completely sober. I would not have guessed she still took drugs recreationally or otherwise.
I don’t think we’re going to resolve what sobriety is in the comments section on this website (or on a reality show), but I think it’s more complex than “abstaining from mind altering substances”. We’d all be in danger if addicts couldn’t take antidepressants or anxiety medication if they need them. In fact, a large part of the treatment for alcoholism in rehab is prescribing the right medications to treat whatever underlying issue the addict was previously self-medicating.
I think the key thing is whether they’re prescribed by a doctor who’s aware of your addiction issues, or if you’re self-medicating/taking drugs recreationally. Kim took prescribed painkillers after her nose-job and didn’t appear to run into issues, then she took Monty’s cancer meds and ended up back down the rabbit-hole: I would only class the second as an instance of broken sobriety.
I don’t think someone in AA taking Xanax is a cause for alarm in and of itself, but I do think Eden’s flippant tone was a red flag. It suggested that she’d used Xanax recreationally, and that definitely wouldn’t be part of “working a program”.
This is one of the most frustrating things about the constant discussion of addiction on this show. It creates a lot of myths when addicts (and practised liars) like Kim and Eden are allowed to define what relapse or recovery means, or when women like LVP (sly, but not exactly an intellectual) make sweeping statements like “I thought addicts couldn’t take Xanax….” as if she has insight on someone else’s medical history.
You are exactly right. Alcoholism and drug use are usually not the main problem with users. They typically have mental disorders, whether it be anxiety, depression or even being bi-polar. If they did not take their prescribed medicines then they would quickly start self medicating again and then would lose their sobriety. This is a big issue that people even in recovery argue and don’t understand.
Donna I’m hard core into music. I buy, sell and collect records. I play instruments. And there’s hardly a moment in my day that I don’t have music playing in the background. I actually went cold turkey no TV 2 years ago because I felt like I was watching it more than listening to music (thats why I don’t post here as much as I used too but I’ve slowly started watching a few things here and there.) The thing that bothers me the MOST about mainstream music nowadays is that no one comes by it organically anymore. I imagine its no different in the modeling, acting, art world either.
I’m glad you are back.
Very true, eastjames, and I don’t think we’re better for it.
Lisa Rinna really set herself up this season! She should have known that if she gives Vanderpump even the tiniest opening she would capitalize on it and boy has she. I like both Lisas and don’t like Eden at all which is why I’m so upset with Rinna for making Eden relevant!! This is how people like Eden on this show and Sheree and Porsha on Atlanta become full time. It is because full time wives pull the “friends” into the main drama thus making them relevant. On Atlanta Housewives Claudia kept making drama with Porsha(when she was demoted to a friend of Phaedra after dragging Kenya at the reunion) and that enabled Porsha to grab Claudia’s peach and Claudia got the boot. Kenya befriended and filmed with Sheree a season ago when Sheree was just a friend on the show and now Sheree has a peach and has done nothing but come for Kenya all season long. When will these women learn??! Seriously, this is a rookie Season 1 mistake and this is Rinna’s what, 4th season already? She should know better.
I don’t think that Kyle is an enabler she has no control of the actions of adult woman sister or not. Kyle and Mauricio is doing a fabulous job providing the fabulous fun and luxe lifestyle this season I just wish Kim were not on the show so that Kyle could just do Kyle for once without being dragged into the mess.
Erika is one smart cookie and continues to play her cards well and her dinner look was fierce. I wish Tom would join them on one of the trips. Ken and Pk are always there and it would be nice to see an all cast couples trip.
I have no words for Dorit, just when I start to maybe like her she tries too hard with the Xanax story..ugggh.
Great analysis, in particular on what’s been going on in Atlanta over the last few seasons. I’m in agreement with you.
Rinna mentioned in her blog this week and I have been saying it from the beginning, NONE of this happens if Kim didn’t insert herself in a fight that had NOTHING to do with her. Kim ALSO knew exactly what she was doing with Rinna.
Rinna’s blog is an interesting read this week, and kind of how I pictured this whole thing played out.
Now if she denies it all and lies about it, well that’s just stupid and she’s going to get read pretty good.
She’s still my girl, nobody beats her.
Also I LOVE Erika but her “to cool for school” and “I’m bored” attitude, especially in her interviews, is becoming boring.
Wow, I’m starting to really wonder what is wrong with Rinna…to say the things she did about Kim to Eden was alarming to say the least — “SHE’S CLOSE TO DEATH” — as if those around Kim expected her to overdose any day, that is NOT OKAY…then when asked by Kyle if she said anything to Eden about Kim, she denies it? Hello, what happened to the “I OWN IT” Lisa Rinna motto? I remember last year when she was harping about LVP for several months, claiming that LVP “lied,” regarding who said what about “dragging Kyle into the whole Munchausen thing”. In one of her talking heads from last year when Rinna was obsessing over that, she said, referring to LVP, “That doesn’t make it OK to lie, huh-uh, sorry Charlie,” as if she {Rinna} was the moral superhero of the franchise. Give me a break. Rinna has been not only caught in a lie, she is showing herself to BE VERY MANIPULATIVE, has been accusing others of doing things she herself is doing… Rinna has shown a pattern where she goes after cast members — Brandi, Kim, Yolanda, then LVP…now she is back on Kim…when you think about Rinna’s history with addiction, remember she had a sister who died from an overdose, just like Eden did – you would think the two of them would bond over that instead of obsessing over the dynamics of the Richards sisters’ relationship. Anyway not only did Rinna lose her sister to addiction, she has said that her husband HARRY HAMLIN lost several brothers to alcoholism and/or drug addiction, and Harry just got sober several months before they took that cast trip to Amsterdam a few years back. There is something about her attitude of judging/looking down on people who have alcohol and/or drug addiction issues, almost as if she has always held it against her sister for overdosing — as if it was a selfish act on her part that hurt her and her parents. You can tell the way she says “ADDICT” she practically spits out the word, as if she considers persons with those kinds of issues to be “less than” humans. In a heated conversation she had with Kyle last year or year before she yelled, “THAT IS HOW YOU DEAL WITH AN ADDICT, KYLE, YOU JUST WALK AWAY.” Also she is on the “tough love” train in dealing with anyone with addiction, you can tell she has extreme views on this subject when she does stuff like reading us YET ANOTHER WORD DEFINITION [this year the word was ENABLE] — and this time around it sounded as if her logic was based on the simple fact that Kyle loves her sister Kim and therefore is an enabler when she read that, an enabler is “a person who, through love or money, supports an addict.” To me that is just extreme. Also the way she is always saying things – especially in her talking head interviews – that she thinks are funny, she does this wild fake laugh and it’s never funny, she seems crazy. Reminds me of someone who basically looks down their nose at others with a ‘tude that says, “I’m better than you.” She calls herself fabulous then has her va-jay-jay waxing filmed – GROSS…She is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black – she has accused others of doing things like lying and/or being two-faced and now she’s done enough of those kinds of CRIMES? TERRIBLE HW BEHAVIORS? things and been CAUGHT red-handed…lying to Kyle’s face, using Eden by gaslighting gossip on Kim and Kyle to Eden and telling her that if anyone could help the Richards sisters, it would be Eden, then she tried to wash her hands of the whole thing. I missed the scene with her and Camille where she evidently wasn’t looking forward to being with the other hws in Mexico – she was no doubt worried how they would react when she got caught doing these malicious things to Kyle, Kim and Eden…I don’t think Eileen or Erika will care for that kind of behavior from her either. Dorit still getting to know. I thank God I never had to be embarrassed by my Mom accusing one of my friends’ moms of having Munchausen’s.
Paragraphs are your friend. People tend to skip over large walls of words. It might have been interesting but we’ll never know.
Again, I know I am in the minority with liking Dorit but that scene with her children was adorable and worth a mention.
I don’t like her much, but that was cute, and I felt horrible for the struggles her son is having with speech. It must be so upsetting to have your child be unable to talk to you 🙁
I like Dorit too. I don’t see anything she’s done as totally malicious. She seems to just be pushing the drama along while trying not to be boring. That accent thing is a little weird though.
Not a fan of parents of disabled children parading them on reality shows to garner sympathy. See Also: Jacqueline Laurita.
Very true!
Rinna is the worst. Talk about not taking accountability. Good thing she screamed at everyone to “own it” last year, it’s going to bite her in the butt. I noticed at game night her apology to Kim was “I am sorry IF I hurt you” not ” I am sorry THAT I hurt you”.
All of her blogs since have been, ” if Kim had done this then this would not have happened”, everything is Kim’s fault that Rinna could not control her own mouth or emotions. Now it’s Eden’s fault. Eileen better watch out she might be next.
Where is Erika with the c word…Rinna could wear it and finally OWN IT!!
Last year it was LVP’s fault.
One of my favorites of the night was Erika blurting out her desires for margaritas and burritos because, well…she EATS! I also loved her on the jet ski and bringing out her inner Georgia girl.
Do we KNOW that Rinna said “near death”? I don’t remember that nor did production play that part back…
yes, I remember hearing it in her convo with Eden. Unfortunately.
Yep. She definitely said it!
I don’t recall the exact phrasing but it was something along those lines. Rinna really just needs to fess up and own it.
wtf could pk and dorit possibly do to make erika cry?? I’m livid in advance lol
I KNOW! Erika is kind of unflappable. I wonder if Tom has an illness or something. I LOVE TOM. I could totally have married him. I love lawyers and he is super smart and successful. That’s sexy. I hope it is not about Tom.
Erika acts like a teenager, and it drives me nuts! When they arrived at the gorgeous home in Mexico she was sort of walk-skipping and humming to herself which looked odd, and then when she and Kyle were chatting she kept interrupting her. She doesn’t always do this – at the dinner table she was very respectful and well behaved – but I would find it very hard to talk to her. She’s also very boastful about everything … when she was going on about how she and Tom have (had?) a boat moored somewhere, I saw Ken looking in the opposite direction, smiling, and the other guys (Mauricio and Tom) seemed very disinterested in what she had to say. Her constant, “I want a Burrito” act on the bus was bloody annoying – Ken looked disgusted with her.
I really like Kyle (always have, always will) and don’t see the ‘problems’ that others seem to intimate with her Mauricio. In him, I see a lovely man who’s enjoying his success but wants to keep control on his business, as you would if you’d built something up from the bottom along with Billy Rose and what’s-his-name-Chan as he has, and that means he has to work hard. But I think he loves Kyle and their family more than anything and that shows in many of the things he does for them. He’s obviously a very kissy-huggy person with everyone, and I think people read too much into that.
When Mauricio showed Ken and Lisa to their room, it seemed that he couldn’t get out of there quick enough, and he didn’t chat with Ken like they used to … I guess since their friendship hasn’t recovered from that magazine fiasco.
I’d love it if the Housewives show morphed into something else … being, a reality show centered on Kyle’s family and friends – so people such as LVP and Camille could make appearances from time to time.
If Rinna is good friends with Cindy Crawford, then she should try and make catch-ups with her – and no doubt other fabulous celebrities she’s friends with such as Heather Locklear – as her storyline, not this constant backstabbing, trying to make a story out of nothing, angle. I doubt Cindy would want to appear on this sort of show though.
I like Kim and feel very sad for all that she’s been through. From where I sit it feels like she had to work all through her childhood, never getting to experience being a child herself, and now she has very little to show for it. She doesn’t deserve the bashing that this show is giving her – I just wish they’d let it go!
I’ve grown to like Dorit – I think she’s a nice woman (the fact that she said to Eden last week that she didn’t want to talk about Kyle behind her back spoke volumes), and her children are absolutely gorgeous. What Jagger is experiencing is not actually that uncommon – they’ll probably find that he’ll just wake up one day and talk constantly. I’m sure the speech therapist is helping though. I can’t stand PK – ugh; and what on earth were those dog tags he was wearing in Mexico? He really is vile.
I agree with the comment above that LVP looks so much better on Vanderpump Rules than she does on this show. That black dress she was wearing in Mexico was awful, as was the get-up she wore to The Great Gatsby party. Kim managed to pull off the headband worn across the forehead style, but on Lisa it looked all wrong. Lisa would look incredible with a few layers in her hair, and the length shortened to sit just above her shoulders.
Eileen was such a bad casting choice for this show. I’m sure she’s a lovely woman, and it’s absolutely awful that she’s lost so many people recently, but surely she would deal with it better off camera and without these toxic women in her life? It’s obvious that she’s a worrier, and that every little thing people do bothers her, so this show is the worst kind of thing for her.
I like Camille’s appearances on the show. She’s so upbeat and positive and nice to watch.
Sorry for the novel-length post!
I agree that Rinna is above soapy storylines they give her. She is interesting enough without the fabricated drama.
Damn,Eden turned out to be quite the villain the way she twists Rinna’s words. She’s reading the blogs
Such a great episode. I agree about the therapy. I was uncomfortable, felt I was invading her privacy. Really noticed Rinna is saying what she should depending on who she’s talking to. A lot lately is seeming fake due to different reactions to different people. That hacienda was muy bueno!! 🙂
Ok…so I’ve been holding back this comment because I didn’t want to be torn to shreds but here goes….I loved Eden’s overalls at Rinna’s BBQ. There…I said it. Let the chastising begin. Anyway, I kept thinking Erica sounded southern but I wasn’t confident enough to totally throw it out there. As a southern girl I can confirm the need for speed. Its real y’all. I would’ve been way more concerned about my shades than anything else too.
I don’t remember Eden’s overalls from the BBQ. I love overalls. But I don’t know why you would feel the need to hold that in for a couple of episodes.
What would have been the worst thing that could happen. Me or 12 other comments saying OMG! YOU LIKED THOSE! THEY WERE WRETCHED! I think you would have survived. 🙂 You;ve been here a hundred years. I think you’ve found your voice!
Haha! A hundred years ago I got crucified (not really, I’m being dramatic) for liking Phaedra’s polka dot dress! I thought she looked like a wholesome 50s housewife. Which in comparison to what we know now would be quite challenging for her!
The crucifixion was well deserved. She looked like Minnie Mouse.
I’m not belittling an accomplishment, but after reading The Daily Mail Sidebar Of Shame, it looks like EVERYONE walked the Hilfiger shows.
I mean, I drank so much wine I blacked out the other night so it’s safe to say I could’ve walked and just forgotten.
I think there was one in Venice Beach yesterday. Which was odd. Because not NYC. I am seriously having difficulty focusing lately so I can’t stand behind much of anything I say today. So that that for what it is.
Yep, Venice Beach, without Rinna’s daughter. But both girls were there dressed head to toe in Hilfiger. Weird.
Yeah did they not turn it into “Tommyland” or something (which sounds like a creepy 80s slasher)?
Um read every comment AND the blog and no one mentioned the most noteworthy moment in my opinion…. HELLO CAMILLE GRAMMAR HAS HAD A REALLY TIGHT FACE LIFT! That scene at the restaurant in NYC, holy shit I almost did not recognize her! She couldn’t close the left eye all the way.
All I noticed was how they were acting like they were in church giving condolences to each other. Found bizarre and fake the way they acted, as act-tresses!!!!
Was I the only one getting shades of Adrienne in her talking heads?
THANK YOU!!! I thought I was the only one who noticed that. And it made me sad because Camille was gorgeous.
Side note….I’m pretty sure that the estate where they stayed in Punta Mita was / is Joe Francis’ estate.
@Scarlet- I think they said the estate belongs to the uncle of one of agents that works at The Agency branch that they just opened there in that town.
I’m watching now. My dog died..my best friend since I’ve been 22 died after emergency surgery and I can barely stand to keep myself focused on anything else, sorry to be a downer, but he was my baby. I hope Dorit and Eden are both a one and done…that’s all I’ve got.
@JustJenn, I am so sorry about the loss of your pup. Our furbabies have a spot in our hearts forever. I lost one in Sept. and it is still like a daily throat punch.
In Erika’s TH she says she needs proof or whatever about Rinna’s mouth. But, after dinner Dorit says we don’t know anything for sure… Erika mumbles, ‘Oh I think we know it’s true’. So, in her TH, is she being sarcastic? She’s so one note, I can’t tell. I think she’s trying to look like she’s riding the fence, but she has a definite option. Anyone catch that?
A lesson in dogmatics . TT nailed it.