Multiple sources are reporting that Jason Hoppy was arrested last Friday when he showed up at Bryn’s Manhattan private school. Hoppy has been accused of sending hundreds of abusive emails and making angry comments on Facetime toward Bethenny since last November. At that time, Hoppy was alledgedly copying Bethenny’s current beau, Dennis Shields in the emails. Shields sent Hoppy a cease and desist in response to all the emails in November. Since sending the letter, the emails have not decreased.
Jason apparently approached Bethenny while she was dropping Bryn off at school Friday morning yelling, “I will destroy you.”
An NYPD spokeswoman confirmed the allegations to Page Six :
The complainant said Hoppy had sent numerous emails and FaceTime calls numbering in the hundreds after a cease and desist letter was sent on November 22, 2016. On Friday, January 27, the suspect approached her and a friend at her child’s school at around 8:15 a.m. and tried to provoke a fight. He said, ‘I will destroy you, you can get all the lawyers you want, you’ve been warned. He was arrested hours later and charged with aggravated harassment in the first degree, harassment in the second degree and stalking in the fourth degree.
Hoppy denies all charges and feels like Bethenny is over reacting apparently. Hoppy’s attorney Robert C. Gottlieb told Page Six, “There are no words to express how saddened Mr. Hoppy is over his ex-wife’s unjustified actions. His only concern is his daughter and intends to vigorously fight these false charges.”
As of this writing, Bethenny has not made a statement.
UPDATED: TMZ is reporting that Bethenny has a received 6 month restraining order against Jason. He is not allowed to have any communication other than custody exchanges with Bethenny nor come to her home, business, or apparently Bryn’s school. He is also forbidden from contact with Dennis.
I’m not sure why but this doesn’t surprise me. There’s something about that guy.
ITA Yoya. He is a master of gas lighting and I am sure Dennis and Bethenny have the emails to back up their story. They tried the cease and desist and it failed, so it is natural the next step would be to get police involved. I’m also sure there were plenty of parents around to witness the altercation.
I agree. He seems like a hot head.
From another Page 6 article:
But a police source said detectives suspect Frankel may be exaggerating her claims against Hoppy, possibly to get “revenge” on her ex.
A police source told us, “Bethenny came in [to the precinct] with her lawyer and a few friends. She was making more out of this than it was, that was the overall impression. She’s been involved in a terrible divorce with this guy. And it seemed to us that she was filing the report because she wanted to take revenge on him, get back at him for something he did connected to the divorce. This is common among celebrity types — even C-listers like her — when they’re involved in a bad divorce. We get this a lot. It did not appear to us like Hoppy was going to attack her in any way. He seems like a pretty cool character. But she filed the report and because of that we had cause to arrest him.”
We have seen B act crazy on tv how many times? I don’t remember Jason ever reacting other than sometimes being frustrated with her.
@TT have the rules changed ?
No, I just opted to verify’s bella’s comment and ignore it.
I am weary.
But it is great seeing you post! xo
No, I just opted to verify’s bella’s comment and ignore it.
I am weary.
But it is great seeing you post! xo
Yeah, I started meming like Winona Ryder when I saw this post.
I used to feel as you do. But Hoppy is a Taurus and nobody can hold a grudge or play payback like a Taurus! I’ve known several — my brother, mom, former fiance’ — they never forgive and they never forget.
For some reason I believe that there is more to this. I doubt Jason would risk Brynn and his time with her, as well as his family. (Just saying as a parent). I just can’t imagine he gives two shits about Betheny and her beau. I just can’t figure out what why it seems off.
I don’t know one way or another but B wanted the spotlight, what better way to keep it? Imojadon seemed adverse to cameras
B already had/has the spotlight, she doesn’t have to exaggerate anything to get attention.
THIS I believe. I don’t trust B at all. She’s set on revenge and idles on angry. I wouldn’t put anything past her.
You do not get someone arrested and a six month restraining order unless there is a demonstrated need. you can easily get a temporary restraining order but it is very difficult to get a long term restraining order AND an arrest.
Exactly. Frankly, while I can see the abrasive qualities in Bethenny, she’s not insane. I always thought there was something hostile and off about him and I took note of the reports of his spiteful behavior after their separation. It just seemed more devious than most would be, like he is beyond enraged she would have the gall to fight him about money and custody, like he was owed more than he was.
I believe it, no way she gets a restraining order like this if nothing happened, and what sane human being calls and texts hundreds of times like that? That’s sick.
The divorce is final, I believe, he just needs to come to terms with this and parent their kid.
Point in fact, the number of emails has been exaggerated. There were just over 100 over a three month period averages about 2 emails a day. I can see coparents emailing several times a day on a custody change day. This email thing doesn’t bother me. However there were a few mean ones in there.
I got over 100 nasty emails in a week recently. So maybe I’m just used to it. I also learned to just hit block. Dennis could have easily done that even if Bethenny can’t.
I imagine you’re accustomed to all manner of messages from crazy people lol
I can definitely see a few emails a day re: the kid, for sure, but it just seems he’s off his rocker a tad. Copying her boyfriend is just petty. I mean, this has been years since they split now, let some of the animosity go for your own sanity, you know? Has to be exhausting to be so angry all the time.
There is NO reason what so ever to contact Dennis. I doubt they are going to exchange recipes. He has no relationship with him, so it wasnt going to be good intentions at all. I believe Jason is a sociopath. If you havent been with one of these men, please consider yourself lucky. They hit below the belt when nobody is looking and insist they are drill instructors. Tear you down. Forgetting to build you back up, to where you become a heap of mess in their hands. Bethenny almost fell into it. I am not a huge BF fan but Jason was no where near her magnitude of strength. He is a coward.
She did it because she’s a bitch. She’s not in any danger and she knows it. She wants to destroy the father of her child and it makes me sick. She will see in a few years when Brynn wants nothing to do with her and it will happen. Daughters and their fathers have a special bond
I agree with Yoda, there’s always been something off about Jason, at first I thought he was just awkward on camera, but he seemed dead set on convincing Bethenny she was broken and unlovable. He has a few classic abusive husband characteristics. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out the reason she has turned into a stark raving biotch is because of his mental abuse. He’s super smooth and I’m sure he was easily able to convince the police that he’s just an “normal average guy who is being put out by this crazy celebrity female.” If she was able to get a restraining order before a judge then there has to be some amount of proof. You have to feel sorry for Bryn. Apparently, Bethenny picked a sociopath
It’s difficult to get things like restraining orders. I know, I’ve tried. There must be a record of all the harassment. Sure, they could have faked the emails, but I don’t see Bethenny going to those lengths just to bother Jason.
He really liked coming off as “the normal one”. I’m just saying.
Beth definitely picked a sociopath–look at her mom and how she was raised. Jason is a monster no question you could tell something was wrong with him from the beginning. Keep him away from the daughter please. Traumatizing to the child really enough Jason
“but he seemed dead set on convincing Bethenny she was broken and unlovable”
That’s not at all how I remember it. SHE was the one who was constantly telling HIM that she was broken – that something was wrong with her. Just one example: Her birthday. She had to go in the bathroom and meltdown because he gave her a present in front of everyone. I’m sure you remember the rest.
I am doubting my memories. I want a marathon of Bethenny Ever After. I do remember Jason saying things about her being broken, Remember that farce of a boating trip where they pretended that the engine died and they were stranded? When they got back from that, they were in a car and for some reason either they were still miked up or there was a mike in the car. Bethenny came at him saying he always tries to make her look like the asshole or something and he shot back with some nasty words for her. I remember this as the first time we caught him on camera being a total dick.
I’m not sure I trust my recollection though.
TT, just checked out YOU TUBE, and looks like the 3 seasons are there. I may binge to see what happens. Don’t care enough to make it a priority :), but love watching now knowing what was to come. I didn’t watch initially, but could be way more interesting now.?
I too want a marathon-especially of the last season of BEA – was thinking that last night. I do remember her birthday, he held a party after she told him she absolutely did not want one. And she did go into a bathroom and make a scene- and looked like a total witch.
But I was shocked at first when one after the other, things started turning around, and the cameras( or editors) allowed more of his manipulation to come through. He was direct, harsh, attacking her just where she had made herself vulnerable to him- had admitted her mistakes/need to improve, and he went after them, one after the other, to make her feel worse about herself. I remember it clearly and at first thought it sad that he was so hurt that he was hitting her back exactly where she was sharing and trusting him. After time, it was clear, he had made his mind up that was his approach. That scene in/near the car after the “aborted” boat trip therapy session- I don’t remember the issue of the moment, but do remember whatever was going on, her was not wiling to work with her on it- to give the marriage a chance.
Hey, she had her fair share of issues as well, and was no perfect wife. But she sincerely tried- as he did too, I believe, early on. But he reached some point, where it all changed and he was deliberately trying to hurt her- emotionally and psychologically.
I particularly remember a trip where she went to have lunch with him in some paradise, while in the middle of tough negotiations on something, and he just went after her personally, one jab after the other. his agenda was very clear.
Then when all was lost, the positioning for the money in the divorce began. He made zero effort to do anything but squat in the condo she had meticulously planned, inch by inch, using Brynn as his wedge. He refused to work, made her pay for everything in his lovely lazy life, and played crazy games with documents. They had a prenup that no one owed either anything . But she had put the condo in a trust in both their names, so he was due a portion of its value. Then he signed some docs that gave him much more authority over it, had his mom notarize them, and got them recorded- which is what had to be contested for years in court, beyond the custody issue. She never spoke a word about any of it, but it came out that he was finagling docs to change everything about his rights to money and real estate- he argued after marrying her, he had a claim on all that was sold while they were married- despite the fact she had worked to build the franchise for years before she knew him.
I always believe divorces bring out the worst in all sides, and none comes away unscathed. But this went on ssooo long. Ultimately, the judge did not give him much of what he claimed his rights- that slowed it down a great deal.
All I know for sure was I noticed- over and over again, how much time he spent attempting to hurt her emotionally, and how shocked I was at first- he had not seemed that way to me, originally, at all. It just seemed like, when money and ego entered the scene, it changed him- as of course her- as it does everyone else- but these changes were unhealthy and unconscionable.
Let’s have a marathon!!!Then we can all be very clear!!
Now that everyone is talking about Bethenny Ever After, I’ve been trying to cast my memory back to how I viewed their relationship at the time. I saw every episode, probably more than once because back then I was a big Bethenny fan (since changed my mind completely on that one). It’s been awhile since I saw even one episode, but I do recall I thought after the initial “honeymoon phase” and new parent euphoria, they seemed to start digging and sniping at each other in equal measure, but it often seemed to me that when one was having a good, the other was usually appearing reasonable, then it would flip. I also remember thinking it might just be relationship growing pains since things had moved so fast for them and I really wanted to see things work out. I also remember that terrible “couples therapy” boat cruise from hell where Jason got SO seasick, and the therapist and Bethenny still found it ok to sit practically on top of him in a tiny cabin while insisting on having a hash out session. I felt terrible in that instance for Jason because I’ve been THAT motion sick on all matter of transportation and I’d want to murder the first person who wanted to “go deep” while I felt like I was dying. I do think, though, that there’s something off about the APPEARANCE of Jason’s anger and entitlement following the break up. I’m sure in the end they hated each other (perhaps with reason on both sides) but his behavior and actions just struck me as terribly vindictive. But that could be all hype that was reported and no substance. I wish they’d both just have a truce, coparent with respect and move on. Maybe one of them is making the effort at that, maybe not. It’s hard to know, at least for me.
Narcissists ALWAYS blame their partners for their actions. Bethenney is a screwball. My ex would look like a complete ass and then blame me.
No, you’re right, I remember it as well. He would make digs like that at her. References to how her upbringing, or lack thereof, was the problem in their relationship. He knew it hurt her because she was self conscious about how “damaged” she felt she was. She would freak out about some family events or situations and he’d remind her how she didn’t have any family and she’s messed up, etc.
She had a meltdown at her party, because she told him she absolutely did not want a big fuss because she doesn’t like her birthday, it’s always a sad day for her. She didn’t want the pressure of being in the spotlight with guests and attention. A husband should understand what makes his wife uncomfortable, especially when he knows why, and the fact he went ahead and did what he wanted anyway, shows a fundamental lack of giving a shit for her in my eyes.
She’s not blameless, but I think he preyed upon her known issues/vulnerabilities and that’s not loving.
And yet she’s thrown herself a big birthday party on every RHONY episode she’s been on since her return.
True, good point. Maybe it’s different for her when it’s on her terms (or after all that therapy lol)
About six months ago I started following his twitter (not officially, just drive-by), something must have come up on a blog to send me over to look. Anywho, he is a nut case. I’m old. I have had friends in crappy marriages and long-term relationships, I’ve seen a lot of friends get divorced, and I have friends have gone through horrendous breakups. His obsession with her ain’t right. I have never known any one to hold onto such vitriol for such a long time after a separation. Clearly, he is obsessed with her, and yes, does stalk her. If you haven’t, go check out his tweets from the past several months. Keep in mind, they separated in December 2012.
The twitter you speak of.. is not him. Its a parody account. You can tell because its not verified. Its just someone pretending to be him. I believe he is a genuine nut case. I am sure Bethenny is hard to get close to. She had a shitty childhood. But he constantly said she was broken and damaged. No hisband says that. His own mother pretendednto be a notary and forged documents. He needs to move on. Bethenny is no dummy.
You may be right, I hope you are. It was posted a long time ago that it was a parody account.
Every now and then there are some pretty specific info posted and then deleted. Verified or not, I believe it is him.
It’s not. You are mistaken. And a moron.
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Pssssst! Who am I supposed to be sending to the WLS? l
I find this whole mess very confusing.
Well, being the moron that I am, I don’t even know what WLS represents. Weight Loss Surgery? Chicago radio station?
WLS is explained in the COMMENTING RULES!
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His mother IS a notary. Allegedly she and Jason forged Bethenny’s signature.
She was a notary.. but not in New York as they proved in court. She notorized forged documents and her notary was no good in New York.
I believe the only thing that was done incorrectly was that Jason.s mother notarized a contract for them and she is not a NY notary. End of scandal and no big deal. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger with each telling.
Broken, damaged, not pretty enough, not smart enough, not even your mother loves you – that’s abuse, emotional abuse. There are not many people able to get out of this. I hope Beth is one of them.
Holy Cow, you are so right! And the way he refers to her as SHE. He is not okay.
Dalai Mama…I’m wondering if you are the dearest, sweetest Dalai Mama from SD, bead maker extraordinaire 🙂
What an asshole. If he wanted to confront her so bad why would he go somewhere that is his daughter’s place and make a scene and embarrass his own child? I mean why confront her at all, really. He really needs to move on or it’s not going to end well for any of them.
Exactly. There was absolutely no reason for him to be at the school that morning.
I can speak from personal experience here as the child. If this is what he’s doing when she’s six the restraining order needs to be to keep him from the child. He will take the child away to get back at Bethenny. That is where this thing goes unchecked.
Do we know that he had no business at the school or is that speculation?
I don’t often have any official reason to be in my child’s school, however, I can always come up with one if required.
We only know for sure what is in my post. But that doesn’t stop all sorts of wild speculation up to and including making mental health diagnosis based on a TV show.
I’m neither pro or con towards Bethenny or Jason. I watched their relationship from the beginning and even watched their shows together.
The only thing I can say about the current situation is I’ve seen B talk about Jason negatively for years now. Every interview or show she is on she does this. Meanwhile, I’ve heard very little from Jason regarding interviews he’s done. What we don’t know is what the emails said. Maybe they were requests to stop talking about him. He may have done this knowing that Brynn could see them in the future.
Watch, Bethany get arrested in a few months from stalking Jason.
If Jason really wants revenge he should hook up with Kelli Bensimon. You know Bravo would give those two front row apples to get them both to appear on RHONY. Then on camera in front of all the Housewives at a reunion show, Jason should propose to,Kelli. That would get them a wedding special especially if Kelli gets Jill Zarin to be her maid of honor.
Oh, I cabsee Bethanny’s head spinning right off her neck.
Lol!!!!
LOL
Now THAT would be great revenge.
Welp, sorry for making a comment that literally adds nothing, but I am at a point where I don’t know what to believe in this mess anymore. However, I have no doubt that the next republishing of The Merriam-Webster Dictionary will have “see also, Frankel/Hoppy Divorce” under the definition for acrimonious. Yikes.
It doesn’t say the child was present, just that it was at school.
Bethenny hypes everything and they are filming now. Helps her with a storyline.
Hmmm!
I have to disagree here- while I don’t think Bethenny has been herself for a long time, I think he has a great deal to do with it. For the last two seasons of their shows, he went out of his way to go after her, miinimize and abuse her mentally, psychologically. He wanted to hurt her, make her feel badly about herself, and to make him appear to be the reasonable, hard working man of the house, in charge and running the business
. He tried to get her to agree to give him the top role in her firm, which she finally had to say no to, after attempting many ways to get him involved, without meeting his demand to run the whole show. He left his other marketing/trading job, shortly after Bryn was born, saying he could add true value to her firm, and help her generate more income for them. He was – or said he was=-familiar with manufacturing plants, so I remember him travelling with her to the bottling operation in Canada. . But nothing was enough- he was never satisfied- and always demanded more control, more authority, started to disagree with her over decisions, It came down to his ego in the marriage, to me- he had to be the creator and decision maker in the brand, yet he knew little or nothing of what she knew abut the brand and its history. It was sad to me, that he wasn’t graceful or wise about any of it, and started to downplay her choices, everything about her. He went out of his way to criticize her, hold her responsible for any minor-major problem with anything in their life, In the end, there were many scenes of him picking fights, unwilling to bend on any front. about anything, demanding she do nothing but subordinate her thoughts and life to him and his demands. ( Now she was not without fault, on many levels. But she continued to make efforts to improve, to apologize, to move on with him. I am SURE she provided her own lousy moments and challenges to their relationship, without doubt, but he never seemed to do that after the baby was born and the decisions were not all being made by him.)
We all need to bend and find a balance in marriage partnerships, everything from business to every day choices. he was unwilling and unable to do it. he’d never been married before, it seemed it needed time away from cameras, and hopefully the anger he displayed could disappear without the world of camera and visibility. It felt to me like she truly was sincere in her desire to make it work, but he became incessantly unkind to her, rude and hurtful, and thought that was just fine.
I was most bothered by his constant desire to put her down, make her doubt herself, and put her ability to cope psychologically in question. He went after her over and over again, assailing and accusing,. all to make her doubt herself. I have watched married men use that tactic to hurt women and become divorced, and thought that was what he was doing here, clearly. As things evolved, it was very hard to see who was doing what, there was plenty of blame to go around, but I often thought his ugly maneuvers to stop working and veg on the couch in the condo, while she worked, and went through a great deal of public abuse (and general unhappiness) from him, and publicly, with the show closing, etc. , awas a hurtful, easy way out for him. he was actively courting the media and maneuvering for as much money in settlement as he could possibly get, while accusing her of all kinds of things.
I liked his parents a good deal, thought the loss of his brother tragic, and very much wanted their romanced to work. It was a true opportunity for both of them, to create a nurturing family, etc., for their daughter and themselves, which she didn’t always fully appreciate, for sure. But she did sincerely try- while he lambasted her. I clearly remember one vacation when they went to Mexico, I think, to get a break from everything, despite it being a very hard time for her to be gone, and as she made efforts to make him her focus, her turned and attacked her again.
I am sure there is truth on both sides, she has become mad, angry and bitter, it seems, as a result of all this, and can be a true bitch. But from my vantage point, and I said very very little during the entire divorce, this shows the guy I watched, who went after her psychologically every single time she went out of her way to try to compromise and find a way to move forward together.
The sad thing to me, beyond al this, is it is now impossible to see it all clearly, since she is already being blamed as overreacting by the police, supposedly.
This just shows how much credibility they have each lost, no matter which of them did what to the other. They have been busy self- destructing, at least in t he media.
I sincerely hope little Brynn is not as hurt by it as Bethenny was in her childhood. They need to both begin to focus on that.
That’s a great post! I didn’t watch their spin-off show, or follow their relationship very much, just mildly followed the divorce. I didn’t know who or what to believe, until it came out he had falsified documents.
I remember one episode of their show when Bethanny organised an entire weekend of stuff for his birthday. They went on a trip, she organised for his friends to be there for a golf day with him, dinners, etc. He seemed appreciative and quite moved by the effort she went to and then, according to Bethenny, after it was over and (importantly, I think) after the cameras were gone, he started berating for not including his parents on the weekend.
Bethenny made another reference on the show to there being “two Jasons” and one of her assistants confirmed it.
Bethenny has her faults but she doesn’t pretend to be what she’s not. If she’s happy you see it, if she’s unhappy you see it. She tells you what she’s thinking and feeling, even if it makes her look bad.
It’s always been my gut feeling that Jason is good at performing as the nice guy when people and cameras are watching but that there’s definitely a dark side there. This pretty much confirms it for me.
If you believe someone is vindictive and will use anything you do against you, you keep your contact with them to the minimum necessary. If you can’t stop contacting or emailing someone even when there are negative (& legal) consequences to YOU for doing so, then you have a problem.
Jason absolutely did NOT “berate” Bethenny for not inviting his parents on that birthday trip. WTH?
He told her that he felt badly that they weren’t there. He lamented that they would have loved it. He wasn’t being nasty, or even critical. He just loves his parents and felt guilty that they weren’t there to share his special day.
And Bethenny proceeded to lose her mind. She kept him up ALL night ranting at him. She made it all about her — she was the victim. She wouldn’t let it go. ON and ON.
Are we actually saying that Jason should not have shared a very normal feeling? Lots of people have elderly parents and feel guilty about not spending enough time with them, etc. Why is that a bad thing?
He spent ever other week-end with his family so missing them is bullshit.
And YES he DID make Beth feel like shit about it !!!!
NONE of this happened on the spin off I watched. On my TV Jason wanted NOTHING TO DO WITH SKINNY GIRL and Bethenny basically forced him to quit his job. He also didn’t want the office in the apt and yet that happened,
Are you perhaps in another country that got some sort of alternate version?
What show were all these people watching. He was lovely to her amidst all her crazy. SHE has a history of vilifying anyone who crosses her and is an amazing victim.
Exactly right TT. Bethenny wouldn’t let up and then started with the guilt trips until he finally broke down and did what she said.
Remember the meltdown Bethenny had trying to host THanksgiving at her apartment? How she wanted it perfect and the new stove she purchased didn’t work and ruined dinner? She was at the therapist’s office and he reminded her of what she said of holidays with her mother. And what Bethenny described was exactly how she behaved during that dinner. She WAS her mother. But even then, as clear as it was to everybody, it was no Epiphany for her. He and his parents were great, when things unraveled. I thought she also treated Julie her assistant like crap and put too much on her, poor girl had no life of her own, looked exacted, and ultimately I think when she left she tried to keep it professional, but that Bethenny had taken her for granted. Julie probably was too scared to talk to Bethenny about her expectations or boundaries, because she might lose it, and black ball her for other jobs. This is the girl I would love to talk to about their relationship. If not for the non-disclosure she had to sign, I bet she witnessed all the good, bad, and ugly, and who was the true cray cray person in the relationship, and has the juiciest stories. TIme and time again it looked like Julie and Jason were on the same page and Bethenny was the one with unrealistic expectations in given situations. I totally don’t see what the others are saying about Jason reminding her of how broken she is, it seemed like he held her more accountable for her actions than her therapist did.
How could anyone forget the Thanksgiving episode, or the birthday episode? LOL!!! Both are classic, and permanently embedded in my psyche, given Temple Beth’s seeming propensity to overreact to any given situation. Her behavior in both situations was appalling to me, particularly when, during her b-day party, Jason’s father made a heartfelt presentation of his handmade gift to her and it was, at that moment, that she really freaked out, if I recall correctly.
Many years ago (my 30th bday) I was honored with a surprise bday party and, amazingly, because everyone involved in the planning and execution of the event was a very close friend and/or a co-worker or a regular where I worked, as I entered my home that evening, I had no idea what was about to greet me on the other side of the door. I was not prepared, and higher than a kite at that moment, but I was able to pull it together so that everyone had a great time at the party. Granted, there were no cameras, but still.
The Thanksgiving episode with the oven situation was one I could definitely relate to since I had a similar experience years ago with a former Hollywood star who had retired to the Carmel Highlands and has since passed. I was hired to cater her Thanksgiving Dinner and, from the moment I arrived the day before to begin the prep, I knew it was going to be a bumpy ride. And, as it turned out, it was, although I was not responsible for that eventuality. However, I managed to carry it off with much aplomb, all things considered. I was expected to prepare the food, do the set-up, mix and serve drinks and wine throughout dinner, do table side service, clear after courses and carry out an elaborate dessert service, all of which I did. Unfortunately, my Hollywood star wanted to get the turkey started before I arrived and, inadvertently, put in the oven that wasn’t turned on as opposed to the oven that was. This is fairly normal Thanksgiving stuff that can and does happen to regular people all the time and why BF had to freak out, rather than laugh off what had occurred I can’t imagine.
I think she freaked out because of her desire to project an image of having her stuff together, especially since she’s a chef, and ruining food as a chef on natl tv…..well you know
But her meltdowns make her look way worse than ruined food. I also dislike how she acted towards LeAnn at Dorindas. She seems coked up or on Adderalline talking so fast, being irritational.
Sorry, I had another thought. I just find it very hard to give credence to her side of the story regarding Jason, because of the anger, criticism, antagonism, mind games, negativity towards her cast mates the last year or two. At first Andy even drank the koolaid, but even he has fell victim to her behavior now. He is an example of what happens when “you cross her”. She “cracks skulls.” She is very cunning with her smear campaigns and passive aggressiveness, look, her mother, her boss, Luann, Jason, Kelly B., Jill Z. The common denominator is her here.
AND look how she treated Jules. That was just gross to watch.
I watched that show and have a much different view. Jason WAS the nice one. She got pissed because everyone saw how disfunctional she was on the show always whining about how “broken” she was and her “horrible” “raise by wolves” childhood. Give me a break. He was constantly trying to calm her down. Look at how she treats her cast members.
I don’t know much about this situation, but from personal and professional experience sounds like Police did the right thing. May sound weird, but glad someone is looking out for BF’s beau. Custody exchanges can escalate quickly.
So, Bethenny has a new boyfriend, new home, divorce finalized, she’s the queen bee of RHONY and she’s making up shit about the guy who she wants to be done with? Makes no sense to me.
Their divorce was devastating to her. She couldn’t get him out of HER apartment that she designed, bought and paid for. She lived in hotels. She’s been in pain for years and their divorce lasted longer than their marriage. She was also muzzled and not able to talk about all the shit that was going on.
The article said that he showed up at her daughter’s school, not the other way around. He’s been sending hundreds of emails and stalking and harassing her and her BF. The “police source” sounds like a misogynistic, nudge-nudge, wink-wink asshole.
I feel sorry for all the children and the toxicity some of these celebrity break-ups bring to their lives. Brad and Angelina, that couple in flip or flop Tarek and Christina, this one, John and Kate etc.!! Some of these celeb’s are so narsisistic, they don’t seem to care about the poor kids.
I’m not a celebrity and my divorce was called War of Roses by local attorneys. I was amused and embarrassed we were talked about.
We had forced drug tests, physc tests, unlawful recordings, rooms wired, I did consultations with several high end legal offices in order to block him of their services, flattened tires, marked tail lights/head lights OMG we were awful.
He hid a vehical in storage then sold it, I had restraining orders against him. Holy crap the games. Temporary Court mandated supervised visitation him, me constant drug tests until court told his attorney no more.
Jason is passive, kind when in public and aggressive behind closed doors. I heard his horrible little comments to her, he was working her way back. Once he had her emotionally broken he knew he had her. She did not break, almost. It took her time to see, it will take a little longer to heal.
He lost control and that will make him nuts until he finds a new person.
Lets hope the new female he controls is not his daughter.
I have to agree Calipati. I was on to Jason because I had gone through that situation personally. While I detest Beth, Hoppy found every weak spot in Her character and then proceeded to poke at her until he broke her down. Masterful passive aggressiveness, with his parents being the Greek chorus humming in the background. At some point Hoppy dared to push the emotionally unstable Beth to the point of no return. She has not been able to pick her facade of the plucky underdog, instead we have the real Beth, raw and hateful. They deserved each other, and still do.
Agreed. He is the problem here. They have given times on drop off and pick up. He knows when NOT to show up. Why would he ever show up @ Bryns school on a time that was not his designated time? I hope to goodness she didnt see it. Be respectful and go away.
I totally agree Donna..This asshole has made her life hell for years. Does any woman want to wait 4 yrs or more for a divorce? NO! He wouldn’t leave the apt SHE paid for! On reunions and WWHL all Bethenny would say is she wouldn’t & couldn’t talk about what was happening to protect her daughter. Carole was the one who mentioned how Jason wouldn’t answer the phone when she tried to call her daughter just to say hello. Would a woman that rich & apparently in control of everything cry that much on her first season back whenever her daughter or her home situation was mentioned? Did she really want to burn even more cash sleeping in hotels then the money she was already paying for her apt. & the bills included that he refused to leave and to all the lawyers to get him out? No! Please …this man didn’t “get the shiny objects” as it has been said, so he has been out to destroy…allegedly…in my opinion… what she has worked so hard for since her first season of RHONY and before . No wonder she has such trust issues and is such a bitch at times! The 2 things I absolutely believe about Bethenny is how much she adores her little girl & how much she protects her Skinny Girl business. There is always 2 sides to every story but this one …I’m taking Bethenny’s side It just makes more sense.
“There is always 2 sides to every story but this one…”. That sounds fairly biased to me and, generally speaking, entirely untrue. As we all know that each and everyone of us has our own perception of reality, situations and events. Therefore, there will always be differences in opinion. However, when one refuses to even consider an opinion that isn’t completely in line with theirs, their opinion becomes somewhat meaningless.
And not just because he wouldn’t give up the Apartment. The Totality of everything going on. He just seems like he’s a very bad Person. His behavior on Bethenny Ever After said it all! He was incredibly mean that last Season they shot.
I don’t buy it. At best her description warrants a restraining order. She apparently sued him and he said he’d destroy her in court. He didn’t threaten her. He certainly didn’t stalk her.
I really couldn’t figure out who was making the divorce so horrible. Now I’m pretty sure it’s her. It bothered me that she kept saying he was sending her hundreds of emails…if that were true why not get a restraining order? I had a nagging suspicion that they just used iMessage like my husband and I do. It’s an email text basically. Now she’s trying to have him thrown in jail because he said he’d destroy her in court?! Jail??? For that? She’s up to something evil.
Why should she tolerate that? Just because someone doesnt like her does not mean they deserve this treatment. I guarantee that she didnt throw down money and an OP was issued. There was proof shown. He has always shown his true colors. She never spoke of him in public after they split. He would go to the press… not her. She would given vague comments and be done with it. The court documents on their divorce are pretty bad. Some of the things he pulled are over the top. I believe her here.. you cannot just issue an OP without good reason.
I agree with you. 100 percent! If B were playing “Games” , she would have done it already! She has the evidence to support her claims. Done deal. And Witnesses! People are crazy ! Why is Jason asking about life insurance?! That sent a HUGE Red flag up for me ! Scary!
Many divorce decrees order the parents to acquire life insurance policies naming the child as a beneficiary. The co-parents are to exchange copies of the policies, so that in the event something happens, the living co-parent can process the claim and safeguard the child’s proceeds.
So asking for a copy of it is not a “red flag.” It is simply reflects an organized individual who is complying with a court order.
If Jason were going to plot her murder — why would he need a copy of a life insurance policy naming someone else as a beneficiary?
Come 0n — let’s not turn this into some sort of murder plot. That’s ridiculous.
Keep in mind, Bethenny Frankel is the one with a history of violent outbursts. Coldplay? And how about when she told Andy Cohen that she wanted to physically assault Luann?
Name one time Jason Hoppy has done anything remotely similar.
She got a six month restraining order
There’s the saying that when someone shows you who they are you should believe them, and Bethenny has has shown us that she is a horribly vile person. Maybe her ex is as well, but I have no doubt that she is equally responsible for the poisonous relationship that they have.
Its hard to tell what’s up in these type of he said she said, situations. Im not even going to try. And If one of them is a sociopath, they’re going to be a master at deflection and projection, and are capeable of being seriously devious snd cunning and will stop at nothing to win. Things aren’t allways as they seem. This I know and I’ve been the victim of a smear campaign myself before, and it’s amazing the people who just believe anything someone tells them and the stuff people get away with all the time. They don’t need proof just gossip or a rumour and it’s off and running and nothing you can do about it. All you can do is enjoy your life, knowing youre a good person, and hope that one day you will be vindicated.
I believe Jason tried to play with her mind beginning way back. His little put downs that were never ok but none of us or Bethany gave them any weight. After all she was always putting her faults out there.
If he is the type of man I suspect, that is his way of controlling a woman. Begins slowly and grows over time. His comments begin destroying a woman’s self confidence, she tries harder, he appreciates but it is never quite right because of something she did or did not do right. You get the picture.
Bethany got out and that will make him obsess over her. He believes he should had won. Won/lose, words that do not belong in a relationship.
Or maybe TT will set me straight and tell me Im a fruit cake. Better than a snowflake.
Bethanny started it, by attacking him publicly, repeatedly on THEIR show. At least in Jason’s mind. She was the city girl visiting his friends and parents in their small, hick town. She acted like a spoiled child who had to play with other’s who weren’t as good. And she couldn’t understand why he wanted to see his parents so often. Not a good start for any marriage. Don’t put down the in-laws, especially when those people lost their only other child some years ago.
I think that’s when the dynamic changed. During her therapy sessions her doctor kept asking her to try to see things from Jason’s standpoint. She refused.
I believe the chip on Bethanny’s shoulder, although deserved at some point earlier in her life, goads those close to her to attempt to get back at her for the constancy loathing and negativity she spews in any close relationship. She’s toxic. She makes those around her, eventually become toxic too OR at the very least she attracts people who have that tendency to begin with.
Jason needs to move on. Bethanny apparently has. I hope for Bryn’s sake they get some kind of court appointed counseling for parents OR Jason learn’s from his parent’s example that life can be so much more than just money and retribution.
totally agree with you Becca, I wonder now if maybe he has moved on from her relationship wise, but that these emails and anger stem from custody issues with Bryn. Like he wants to trade weekends with her or something and she will not be flexible or compromise at all, so he gets angry and then the gloves come off.
I was just listening to the Kid Kradick morning talk show in my car, and they were discussing this. They said that B was probably the worst guest they ever had on their show. I couldn’t believe they were saying basically she was awful and rude.
Interesting.
FTR — I think it is weird for them to still call it the Kid Kradick show when he died years ago.
I think there is more to it. I dont believe she is innocent.he probably crossed the line but I think she provokes. When kids visit their dad on his time, let them have his time. She prob calls and stirs stuff up under the guise of talking to the kid I dont get that. There is no way it will be on rhony, Even though Bethany has said she is a “reality star”, she doesn’t share anything personal. We will see a bunch of crying about all her stress and she wont say why. And everyone will say poor Bethany. I dont like her obviously.
I dislike her very much
Wendy Williams had a LOT to say about Bethenny on her show this morning and none of it was good. Here fallout with Bethenny happened when she came on her “little show” and poached her guest booker.
If you missed that, read here. http://tamaratattles.com/2014/02/14/the-new-york-city-talk-show-wars-wendy-williams-knocks-out-bethenny-frankel/
That was when WW started backing away from housewives and Andy Cohen. She was furious. She has had problems booking guests ever since, even though there were things of her own doing that dropped ability to pull in big names.
She told a story about going to a cocktail party at Anderson Cooper’s house and how vile Bethenny was then. She said that Jason was just as awful. That could just be the husband avoiding his wife’s latest nemesis, but who knows.
She recently had Bethenny back on her show. WW totally kissed her ass. You can read about that here.
http://tamaratattles.com/2016/09/21/wendy-williams-has-bethenny-frankel-on-her-show-is-this-a-talk-show-truce/
Today WW basically let us know she was “being an actress” that whole time. Her audience handler girl whose name I can’t remember weighed in saying she can’t stand Bethenny and how she was really mean to everyone when she was on the show.
But still, Wendy says that she always knew Bethenny was a bitch. She’s always been a bitch. But Jason is worse because we all thought he was the good guy when he was no better than her.
It was all very interesting. WW got invited to Anderson’s house for a cocktail party and got to bring her wig guy and a few other people? Bethenny and Jason were invited to Anderson’s cocktail party? REALLY?
WOW.
Thanks for this update. Very interesting
She is the one who has most to lose, nobody has ever really been on her side and he looks great on paper compared to her. He says he wants to put the kid first, and yet is going to drag this right back into court and air all the dirty laundry out all over again. They are getting to the point where a judge is going to tell them both to grow the eff up.
He is the one that got arrested, not her. He is the one that has sent hundreds of emails and texts. The judge may smack him on the hand or may do worse. Bottom line – he is the one that screwed up this time. Don’t see how he looks so great on paper, he isn’t working and he is sending threatening emails and is a classic narcissistic nut job. He still broke the law. He showed up at that school for attention and to get a rise out of BF and it worked. Maybe next time, he will send flowers.
I thought he was working again and doing quite well.
I thought someone reported that he had NOT RETURNED back to work since the divorce. I could be wrong, but I thought it was reported just that. Its too bad, Bryn needs stability in her life. And having a whacked out dad out to get her mother is not a place a kid needs to be.
I have to be honest. I was completely shocked when they announced their plans to file for divorce in 2012, and wonder if I missed something? Bethenny said she went against her gut and married him, so was he exhibiting this level of crazypants back when they were married? Did he just see her as dollar signs? I know we only see a minute amount of what really goes on in their lives, but to this day I continue to be a bit shocked about Jason and his alleged actions.
Others have said they suspected all along that there was something off about him. I’m really interested to know, what do/did you see? I’m trying to make sense of it all.
I have always felt like Bethenny not telling us what happened in the Marriage , to end it, was very telling in itself! I have always had a bad feeling when it came to Jason. I remember Wendy Williams talking about how Jason was “torturing ” B in that luxurious Apartment they had customized. And he wouldn’t leave that Apartment?! Made me realize how evil he probably is !!
And not just because he wouldn’t give up the Apartment. The Totality of everything going on. He just seems like he’s a very bad Person. His behavior on Bethenny Ever After said it all! He was incredibly mean that last Season they shot.
Why should he leave HIS home that he lived in with their child?
The apartment was purchased AFTER marriage, with both their money. Per multiple court orders, it belonged to both of them, as husband and wife.
Explain to me why a primary caregiver should move out of the child’s home?
Would you say that if Jason were female?
Because Jason did not financially contribute to the purchase price or the renovations. He conceded this in the lawsuit. Their disagreement was over whether the condo was or was not “intended” to be owned by both. The condo was technically owned by a trust that had both Bethenny and Jason listed as the beneficiaries, a judge ruled the trust invalid and awarded the condo to Bethenny. There were not “multiple court orders” stating it belonged to both, the issue was open until the final judicial decision awarding the condo ownership to Bethenny. Once the marriage dissolved it was no longer his home and he should have manned up, gotten a job, packed up, and left.
No where has it been stated or shown that Jason was Bryn’s primary caregiver. EVER. They appear to have always shared parenting.
Any woman married for two years (Frankel and Hoppy were married for less than 2), has a child within that marriage, then divorces and expects ANY alimony and/or a large payout from her husband is a gold-digging slut. That is what I would say. Reversing it, makes Jason a gold-digging pussy.
I’ve been watching old episodes and I see it now. Maybe because I’m married now, and in my 30s. I was in my mid twenties when this show was on, super naive and unaware about the complexities of relationships. Watching this brings me back to the Bethenny I used to love. The new Bethenny is a cracked and angry shell of herself. I hope she finds happiness and hers some more life back in her. She looks exhausted and ready to bite at someone all the time now.
I think Jason is a ticking time bomb! And this sounds very ID channel /and or Dateline NBC! I hope the police are taking this VERY Seriously! He seems like the type to do something awful! I believe B on this one. She’s always seemed very scared about him. Since they split. I always felt something was very dark about Jason. Suspicion confirmed!
I agree 100% Tara! He scares me with his actions. He is not right. BF never really talked about him except that the divorce was taking forever and he wouldn’t move out, but those aren’t personal things. They were just answers to questions, I always felt like she was kinda scared of him. I saw him as a person that used her honestly. That was never enough for his parents because the other son died.. and he tried to be all he could be. But he has demons. I am not saying BF is a walk in the park. She is a stern and a hard working Bitch that doesn’t back down – absolutely. BUT, he is dark and scary.
I think the “ticking timebomb” in this relationship is Bethenny Frankel.
She has a long record of mental instability, broken relationships ,and vulgar, violent outbursts. She admits that she lacks impulse control. She repeatedly complains of bouts of depression and uncontrolled crying. Her disproportionate emotional reactions are well documented on Bravo.
From an objective perspective, I would say that Jason Hoppy is vastly more stable and rational that Bethenny. I think it is absurd to paint him as a latent murderer simply because he expressed anger and frustration at a situation and woman who is extremely abrasive and callous.
How many people have been angry and outraged at Bethenny Frankel? Are they are scary, future murderers too?
Come on. jlol .
When I’m wrong, I’m wrong. At first I thought that Bethenny giving the cold shoulder to Jason’s parents was proof that she was in the wrong. But Jason really can hold a grudge!