I recently gave an update on the drama in Orange County. Since then I’ve received a bit of new information. As expected, Vicki, Tamra and Shannon have all signed their contracts. My latest information is that Kelly Dodd was negotiating her contract and her rep was being rather aggressive. The good news is that she seems to be satisfied with her offer now and WILL be coming back. YAY! I’m also hearing that part of her contract was asking Bravo to consider some of her actual friends to be one of the new housewives. I believe that Bravo is doing that. It’s honestly the least they can do after throwing her to the wolves in her very first season by casting her as Vicki’s new BFF.
Also, since Meghan lives in St. Louis now, as I suspected she will be back or a small number of events but will not be full time. As we know, Heather Dubrow is out.
So my latest intel is that there will be one brand new housewife, most likely brought in by Kelly. There will also be another returning housewife. Since there is just one, I expect it to be Gretchen. However, just today I was told that Lydia is a frontrunner for the returning spot. I told that source that they had lost their minds. Lydia quit the show and went far, far away from any attachment the show. I always saw her as someone with enough dignity and money to walk away from the check and never look back. I mean she announced to the world that being on the show WAS NOT GOD’S PLAN FOR HER!
She’s looking back. When I challenged my source, let’s just say receipts were provided. Maybe she thinks God wants her to help mentor Tamra’s professed Christianity?
The other potential returnee is Lizzie! For me, Lizzie could be the “friend of Kelly” they seem to really like each other and interact positively on social media. I’d LOVE Lizzie to come back. And if she comes back as Kelly’s friend, that means Gretchen or Lydia could still fill the other slot.
It’s all still very complicated at this point. There are two open slots. Just like the pass the peach game in Atlanta, there will be a lot of options filmed and we won’t know until much later who the two new housewives are.
But Kelly is BACK BITCHES!
I think. Probably. According to sources.
Are you as dumbfounded as me that Lydia is a possibility? I mean I liked Lydia. But Bravo never likes the nice civilized housewives. That is why they all claw each other’s eyes out every week. I remember Lydia leading a prayer group and having a pretty house and running a lifestyle magazine and just being nice. I’m not saying I don’t want her back. We could all use a sprinkle of fairy dust in these trying times. I’m just saying I would never have believed that Bravo would pursue her until I saw some receipts. Would you?
If we have to pick only two out of Gretchen, Lydia and Lizzie which two would you choose? Also what if Kelly’s friend is not Lizzie and you could only pick one? Then who is your choice?
I would LOVE for Lizzie to come back! As a Kentucky gal, I love that she represents for our state with class and style. I always liked Gretchen, mostly because she drove Tamara crazy. I didn’t like or dislike Lydia, so I guess Lizzie and Gretchen would be my choices.
Gretchen and Lizzie are my two picks.
Yay for Kelly!
Gretchen brought nothing authentic to the show after season 2. There are few Housewives anywhere I like less.
I thought Lydia stood up well for herself and really enjoyed her, pixie dust and all. I’d love to see her and Lizzie back.
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Lizzie !
I adore Lydia, but I do not want her back. Her family money makes all of the housewives on all of the franchises look like broke asses.
She needs to stay away from the crazy and focus on her family and their magazine.
I really liked Lydia on the show but I was glad to see her go so I could keep liking her. I was hoping she would keep her dignity and happy life and stay away from these bitches. Don’t do it Lydia!!
I love that Kelly is in! My 2 picks are Lizzie and Lydia but I wouldn’t be upset if it were Gretchen (minus Slade) because it would pissTamra off. I just hope if it is her she’s stronger this time around and less fake.
Very happy that Fancy Pants is out.
Omg, I agree 100%. So glad fancy pants is out. She could be rather phony at times…. Seems like no one else picked up on that.?
Lydia is what Heather pretended to be… If she comes back I will be shocked.
Lizzie is my first choice. I like watching her balance work with raising her family. I always like seeing the behind-the-scenes stuff of people working and living their regular lives. I much prefer it to the trips and the stupid theme parties. I’d be happy with Lydia or Gretchen. I could even handle seeing Slade again since he & Jo were the reason I started watching in the first place. I never liked him, but it’s interesting to see what he’ll try next to stay relevant. I’m also fascinated to see Gretchen without make-up. She looks like a whole different person. I don’t know how to do that with makeup.
So with either choices, it will be like Tamra and Shannon versus everyone else?
I need Kelly Dodd to grace my screen again, I love her. Gretchen and Lizzie should definitely come back.
I seriously don’t know if I can handle Kelly’s racist, moronic ass. I might have to tap out.
It makes me sad though – my mom only watches NY, BH, and Orange. Since those three rarely overlap, there is almost always a Housewives show that we both watch on the air. Gives us something fun to gossip about.
Bring Gretchen back!!!
Loved Gretchen and would love to see her come back. Another one of my all time favorites was Jeana. I live in OC and had met most of the housewives. Gretchen and Jeana were the most down to earth, Vicki the most obnoxious and Tamra was straight up rude.
I L O A T H E Gretchen. Likewise Slade. I cannot abide baby voice or mispronunciation of common words, e.g.) “something.” She pronounces it “sun-think.” Don’t make me ponder the other basic English language she butchers on a regular basis. Dear dog, just please say it won’t happen to my TV viewing. Gretchen is woefully ignorant, vapid, superficial and basic as fuck. And fuck her plastuc handbags in the ass, too.
Agreed
Spot on! Please- no Gretchen !!
Amen- but then again Vicki AND Kelli are back, This show is already a complete and utter ship of fools and ignorant narcissists. Why would anyone want to spend a minute of precious time on them?
I understand that some of you love the ignorant over the top self-indulgent and indulged Kelly- but Vicki after all these lies and screams calling it HER show? She is far too immature and sex-crazed to be real.
And she has ZERO business sense and ZERO people sense. Whatever business skills she thought she had, she has proven to be lacking, completely.
Why would Bravo do this while the franchise is imploding? He thinks more childish games, drunken fools, and lies will enhance the franchise? Well that’s one way to look at it.
Now all I can see/anticipate are screaming meemie acts by drunken slobs, accompanied by WHO HOOS and poorly-understood English-laced four letter words strung in to phrases making no sense that Kelly thinks sound tough , spoken like 8 year olds.
Lydia might provide balance, but why would she do it?
NO to Gretchen and Lizzie- how can she truly be a friend of Kelly?
TT, you se a bigger picture- with them providing good show moments and more drama- but after all these years of self-indulgent crud, I am tired of that and want to see something a bit more intelligent here. how can Bravo not get it and still fall for the same garbage that never helped them to begin with?
To me, RHNY Season three was the best of the best of the franchise- cause it was REAL. It was neither crafted nor all for show- though Jill certainly tried to make it appear that way after the fact. This was real, we knew and liked the bulk of what both women stood for before it began but they one was angry and positioning, and the other truly hurt; and then Kelly went completely off the wall. After that came NJ and the family War of the Roses(Gorgas) , and each location, the producers screamed for drama, while selectively hiring people on the edge, most likely to bring drama- and rewarded them for it.
It has become rote, anticipated, scripted or close to it,. and uninteresting/insincere. Then they had to drop women who would no longer be tolerated like Yolanda, , but kept some and brought on more of the same- including Kelly- who just operated, needing psychiatric help, at a lower level of garbage. Maybe it brings those who want more women wrestlers in, but I think it loses many who have been waiting for a new cast and approach.
I don’t see a reason for OC to return. it has never focused on celebrating the best of its location, been much more low life, and ugly,.. where is the glamour, fun and aspirational moments? .
Amen- but then again Vicki AND Kelli are back, This show is already a complete and utter ship of fools and ignorant narcissists. Why would anyone want to spend a minute of precious time on them?
I understand that some of you love the ignorant over the top self-indulgent and indulged Kelly- but Vicki after all these lies and screams calling it HER show? She is far too immature and sex-crazed to be real.
And she has ZERO business sense and ZERO people sense. Whatever business skills she thought she had, she has proven to be lacking, completely.
Why would Bravo do this while the franchise is imploding? He thinks more childish games, drunken fools, and lies will enhance the franchise? Well that’s one way to look at it.
Now all I can see/anticipate are screaming meemie acts by drunken slobs, accompanied by WHO HOOS and poorly-understood English-laced four letter words strung in to phrases making no sense that Kelly thinks sound tough , spoken like 8 year olds.
Lydia might provide balance, but why would she do it?
NO to Gretchen and Lizzie- how can she truly be a friend of Kelly?
TT, you se a bigger picture- with them providing good show moments and more drama- but after all these years of self-indulgent crud, I am tired of that and want to see something a bit more intelligent here. how can Bravo not get it and still fall for the same garbage that never helped them to begin with?
To me, RHNY Season three was the best of the best of the franchise- cause it was REAL. It was neither crafted nor all for show- though Jill certainly tried to make it appear that way after the fact. This was real, we knew and liked the bulk of what both women stood for before it began but they one was angry and positioning, and the other truly hurt; and then Kelly went completely off the wall. After that came NJ and the family War of the Roses(Gorgas) , and each location, the producers screamed for drama, while selectively hiring people on the edge, most likely to bring drama- and rewarded them for it.
It has become rote, anticipated, scripted or close to it,. and uninteresting/insincere. Then they had to drop women who would no longer be tolerated like Yolanda, , but kept some and brought on more of the same- including Kelly- who just operated, needing psychiatric help, at a lower level of garbage. Maybe it brings those who want more women wrestlers in, but I think it loses many who have been waiting for a new cast and approach.
I don’t see a reason for OC to return. it has never focused on celebrating the best of its location, been much more low life, and ugly,.. where is the glamour, fun and aspirational moments? .
Hey I watched this franchise for awhile. Only one or two episodes with Kelly, don’t have a opinion but Icdo about Gretchen. I can’t stand Slade, think less of Gretchen for staying with him (something wrong with her) and don’t want to see him back. Lizzie I recall a wee bit, she was funny and interesting.
Lydia is way to good for this show or these women. Hope she stays gone.
Shannon** wrote Lydia is what Heather wants to be was spot on.
I never cared for Gretchen either. I felt she was just using that older boyfriend, and just along for the ride, waiting for him to die. I really have an issue with users, and people who pretend to care about someone in order to gain something, be it money sex or fame. I think thats the WORST type of person bar none. Just my opinion. I didnt thinj she was intelligent either. Just pretty so what. Inside not so much.
Lizzy !!
Lydia !!
No to Gretchen No to Slade
Lizzie…lol spell check first had Litzie
Kelly is horrible! Crazy, crazy, crazy!!
I would like to see Gretchen return,as well Lidia I have enjoyed her she brings alot to the the show an very funny
I am so disappointed that Heather is leaving. She eas an asset to the show. I wish it was Vicki and Kelly that would not return Depending on who comes they may have lost me as a viewer. Kelly and Vicki are classless mean girls who seem to feel above reproach and entitled to mistreat others. Kellys stupid jokes are so juvenile I cannot believe an educated woman would they are funny. Please give us someone with Heathers class and wisdom
Could not agree more.
I totally agree and have said this many, many times. Kelly is a disgusting low class, ignorant and just plain obnoxious and not all that good looking. I, also liked Heather, and will miss her; however unless they bring in someone new, not Gretchen please, Lydia was sweet but beige, as was Lizzie, so sadly I may be gone from the OC.
I want Gretchen! Lydia is boring and not cute!
Oh yeah! A mean, childish, nasty drunk and a cancer scammer! I can’t wait to not watch!
Anyone as long as they have the balls to stick up to Tamra.
But really, how the hell is Vicki + Tamra + Shannon going to work after last season? I don’t think anyone would really buy them being friends again…….surely? I know a paycheck goes a long way but….
I hope to see Gretchen back.? and they could get rid of Trama!!!!!!! Sorry just saying.
I wish I could share your joy in kelly returning, but lord, I loathe her lol
I’m indifferent to the rest. I did like Lizzie, didn’t mind lyida and gretchen never bothered me that much.
I’m so excited Kelly is back. I hope Gretchen comes back to destroy Tamra. I’m liking the possibilities. Lydia was sweet and her whole family, but this shit show is not for her. Ugh Vicki’s son in law and Lydia’s mom situation was gross. Fuvk Ryan or whatever his name is.
Get rid of Vicki and Kelly… Love the shows but can’t stand them. Too much screaming and yelling, being disrespectful and back stabbing from those two…
I am down to about 3 Bravo shows now. I would have loved for Tamra, Tammy Sue to be gone. When you are estranged from your daughter because of this show, and you prefer the check and glam your values are really messed up. Ever since she threw that drink in Jenna’s face and her obnoxious tagline in season one, I have disliked her. Instead of walking off soaking wet, Jenna Keough should have thrown her ass in the pool. Tamra is the worst kind of bully. Having said that, bring back Gretchen to go after Tamra. Lydia is too sweet and normal for housewives. I do like Lizzie but she is nice as well so not sure she is a good fit. I hope we see less of Brielle and her obnoxious husband this season.
Oh gosh, I couldn’t see Lydia ever coming back, now that you reminded me again, of the Ryan scary rant at her sweet dear mom! How could I forget? I really thought he was going to haul off and slug her, I know he really wanted to. He seemed drunk and hyped up on meth to me, thats my honest opinion, and with major hatred twords women. My son would never act like that twords a woman. Never ever! For a guy to get agressive like that twords a female and also of an age of a parental figure, is just mind blowing and pathological. As long as Vickie is there on the show, I think you can FORGET about Lydia being in the show. As I recall Lydia cried at the reunion too, when it was revealed about Brooks behaviour twords Breanna and Vickies reaction to it. All Vickie cared about was losing out on that relationship. Mother of the year! Lydia was horrified all over again!!!
No Gretchen.
.i will not watch it.
And I love my housewifes PLEASE PLEASE CAN HER Lizzy is better thanks
I am so gonna miss Heather…I don’t understand why people don’t like her, yes she has lots of money and likes finer things but so what..She was more sincere than most…We all do stupid stuff, so what of she screwed up sometimes…Vicki is way more snobbish and judgmental than heather…My choice to come back is Gretchen and or Lizzy…And Hopefully Tamarack and Gretchen steal the show with their friendship..I liked Theirs better than Tamara and Vicki…
How about someone new that actually is from the OC! This HW is getting boring Kelly is tacky it’s jyst a really stupid show. It’s so far from where it started. Show me fun, glamor and friendship.
I have been watching Real Housewives of Orange County since the start. My vote goes to Gretchen.
I loved Lydia and her ‘spacey’ Mom! Who can forget her introduction to these bitches when Tamra screamed at Alexis to “You get the fuck out!”. Truest deer in the headlights moment I ever saw. Just say NO, Lydia!
Ok, I’m only going to say this once & know I mean it. If Kellys doddle returns I absolutely wo b the watch the show any more. She actually makes me ill & uncomfortable to watch. There are to many other good shows to watch. I won’t miss this this one at all.
Esabel
Me too ?
I’d actually like to see both Lydia and LIzzie back, they added some balance to the show.
If Vickie & Kelly are back, I’m out, can’t stand either one of them! Both are disgusting
Me too; both disgustingly, self-absorbed, condescending, nauseating. Life’s too damn precious!
Kelly and Vickie are coming back. I won’t be watching.
I’m thrilled Kelly will be back!!! If we can’t have Lizzie, it would be nice to have Lydia sprinkle fairy dust all around but I think her fairy dust is better sprinkled elsewhere. Much stronger magic is needed for this crowd, so I’m gonna have to go with Gretchen.
Lydia and Lizzie
So sad that Heather is out. I cant stand Kelly!!
I am out and I have been watching since the beginning with Kim and the old bunch, I hate that Heather, Terry and CoCo will not be returning
They made me so very happy.
Definitely Gretchen and Lizzie
Lydia and Lizzie, NO Slade!!!!!!
The only way Lydia should be welcomed back is if her Pot-smoking mama comes back as her side-kick and is stoned 24/7 !! Lol
Maybe she thinks God wants her to help mentor Tamra’s professed Christianity – hahahahahahahahahah
Lydia and Lizzy. Gretchen can pound sand.
As I said before, if Kelleys is on show, I’m not watching. I really don’t care for any of the people & bored. So tata ladies.
Any news regarding Tamra’s investigation? What will her storyline be? She hasn’t had one in years. Guessing Shannon needed someone to film with.
If Lydia or Lizzie come back, you can guarantee lower ratings. Boring! It’s been years now since we’ve seen Gretchen and I’m curious to see where she’s at now. She seems to always (intentionallly or unintentionally) bring some sort of drama and I would love to see how she mixes with Kelly and Shannon. Also that behind the scenes of OC special probably opened Gretchen’s eyes as to how and why she became unlikeable in her last season. Gretchen is ready to come back and I think she’ll be great!
I agree. Gretchen is probably wiser to the game now. And she has been sidling up to Vicki and Kelly for about a year.
What behind the scenes footage are you referring to that Gretchan saw? Her whiney, nazely voice is so irratating & Slade claim to fame is pathetic. I’ll say again, everyone on show especially Vick & Kelleys need to be fired. I’m done with the show. Too many other juicy HW shows to watch.
Btw, what ever happened to HW of miami?