I am hoping we get to spend a lot of time in Mykonos tonight, but according to the TV guide, we are going to have to endure more speculation about Kim’s lack of sobriety. Here is my real time coverage of Mykonos.
Mykonos
Erika and Kyle are preparing for the big show. Erika is the headliner and her performance starts at 3 a.m. It’s an all night rager. Kyle talks about working on her show about her life. Kyle says it is bringing back a lot of memories. I love Kyle’s turquoise ring.
Erika’s stage literally hangs off a cliff. She has to climb up a series of ladders in custom Chanel boots to get to it. It looks terrifying! It’s super windy. Down below, there is an ocean of hot topless gay men who have been partying since it got dark. They are totally packed in like sardines in a roll top tin. Erika rocks a full set singing, Pretty Mess, Painkiller and XXpensive. It goes off without a hitch. The crowd goes wild!
By the time they get back to the house, the sun is rising and Erika sees great lighting for a photo shoot. Erika drags Kyle into the photo shoot.
Eileen and Rina
Eileen and Rinna love to rollerblade. Dorit was invited to join them despite the fact that Dorit has never skated. The skating attempt lasts all of five minutes until they have a seat on the grass to talk about PK’s party. Dorit tells Rinna that Kim Richards was invited. Why the hell is Kim invited other than to have a pot stirring storyline about her? Kyle is not even in the country. No one else cares for Kim. This seems like a terrible set up.
LVP
Eden has been invited to tea with the Queen of Villa Rosa. Eden has just broken up with her boyfriend. It appears that he quit smoking at her insistence and instead was weaning off using nicotine mints. So they went to dinner, and she seemed appalled that he was eating a cheeseburger. Then after dinner he had a mint. This was totally unacceptable to her. He was grabbing for the mints the way he grabbed for a cigarette previously. LVP has no idea how to respond to this ridiculous story other than to say, “Oh, look! Ponies!” Even though Eden was likable enough at first, she seems to actually be quite and odd bird.
The talk about Kim a bit. LVP seems to be back on the Kim train where she has some compassion for her. Isn’t this a complete 360 from their relationship the last time Kim was on the show? The more Eden talks, the more LVP disagrees with Eden. Eden has summed up Kim and Kyle’s relationship after meeting them once. LVP tries to explain that Kyle is not an enabler, but Eden seems to know way more about the situation than the people who actually know Kyle.
Eden
Rinna hangs out with Eden at her place and Dorit shows up. Eden makes them green smoothies. It’s 8 pm and the Rinna and Dorit are wishing for booze. Rinna makes a joke about putting a Xanax in her smoothie. She whips out a huge ziplock full of all sorts of vitamins that are just thrown in loose, like a sack of medicinal trail mix. Rinna knows what they all are and what they do. It doesn’t seem right to have them all loose and rubbing up against each other.
PK’s Birthday
I do not care about this event. At least Boy George will perform. Other than that, these phonies are annoying as hell.
When Erika arrives at the party in a beautiful black dress, Dorit’s first comment to her is that she looks much better than she did in the T-Shirt dress. Rinna arrives in a conservative white dressy shorts suit trimmed in black. She invites Rinna to her BBQ where HarryHamlin will be grilling. Erika is not sure she can trust that causal BBQ attire will be worn by everyone.
This is the second party these posers have had in their short-term rental. I suppose they should make the best of it while they can. Kim Richards arrives in a very um, feisty mood sporting a fake British accent. Rinna and Kim greet each other warmly with a hug. Kim is talking a lot. Kim says that the birth of her grandson is starting to make her a bit anxious like she was when she first had babies. Eden makes a huge deal of that. Eden also has a neck tattoo.
Dorit reads some sappy birthday wishes off of a piece of paper. When the curtain is pulled back and Boy George is there, Rinna is super excited. Boy George sings Karma Chameleon and everyone loves it. Eden ducks out right after but not before kissing LVP and Erika on the lips. LVP feels like she is being unfaithful to Kyle, the heretofore only female she kisses on the lips. Then Eden double kisses Camille, Kim and Kyle on the way out. Camille tells Kyle and Kim that Eden is so nice. They both react with stank faces. Kim tells Camille about Eden’s constant judgments and projections toward her about basically everything she says.
Dorit tells the story of Rinna and her bag of pills to Boy George and LVP. Boy George wanders off halfway through uninterested so LVP is stuck as the captive audience. Dorit says the bag of pills was funny and LVP doesn’t get the humor. Perhaps because it is not British humor. Dorit tells LVP to pull the pole out of her ass, it was mostly vitamins and it was funny!
So the conversation with LVP and Dorit appears to be taking place in Dorit’s dining room as I see a long table and chairs. So why in the bloody hell is there AstroTurf on the wall? Perhaps it is an exterior dining area. But again, why is there AstroTurf on the wall?
Next Week: Rinna hosts a BBQ, Erika films for Y&R, and Kyle hosts a Great Gatsby Party.
I believe it was a beautiful hedgerow and not astroturf?
I thought LVP was very sweet this episode! She completely had kyles back and put an end to Edens line of questioning. Kim and LVP are usually fine with each other . She’s always been supportive.
I feel like LVP is taking this tactic to make Rinna look bad.
I agree. LVP is defending Kyle and Kim just to help villainize Rinna. I’m unfooled by LVP anymore. She’s strategic and calculated about EVERYTHING!
I, too, was irked to be dragged away from glorious Mykonos to Shleprock. Eden is a little gray neurotic sparrow. She makes me jumpy.
Everytime I hear Erika’s tagline, I hear Mae West.
And, I have to say, Kyle looks fabulous in casual wear.
Eden is an odd duck. LVP handled Eden and Dorit pretty well. Odd statement from Eileen on how Dorit lies so easily about the black curtain. Wish they had shown more of Greece. I guess Kim will be at every party, unfortunately.
Faaaaack I’ve had enough Kim Richards to last a lifetime.
I’ll gladly take 2 parties thrown by “posers” than the nothingness thrown by the two soap “stars.” Oh look, hell has frozen over! Rinna’s finally throwing her first event EVER on this show next week! A super “fabulous” bbq in her backyard. Yawn. Guess it’s better than nothing, right Eileen?
Not her first – she hosted a jewellery party in her first season … Denise Richards attended
Oh, right. That was also when Eileen hosted her first and last event, a fabulous poker party complete with Digiorno pizza. It’s French ya know?
I guess when you actually own your home and don’t rent like those two cons, you’re a little more conservative with how many events you throw.
Yet Lisa, Kyle, Camille, Adrienne, Erika and Yolanda never seem to have a problem. Guess that’s why they don’t have to constantly insert themselves into any and every conversation that doesn’t concern them like the soap duo. If you can’t even manage to host one event a season then you better make yourself relevant in other ways, hmm?
Touché
Just what was so special about the 2nd party the posers had? I think the “dead flowers” may have been a clue about something. 😉
Oh and their Astroturf walls are another giveaway too.
And please disregard “Just” at the beginning of my original comment. Sorry – don’t know why I put that there. :/
I don’t know about y’all, but Kim seemed high on something to me. Eden just met them and even though she thinks she’s trying to save Kim’s life, she’s not going to get much traction by talking about Kim and Kyle to the whole world. Dorit is the new Pam. Ugh, annoying.
Kim was off but these naive ladies think her only problem was drinking. I believe that was the least of her problems. Opiates are a heck of a drug.
I think they say “drinking” publicly. But clearly the bitch is popping pills. “Drinking” sounds nicer.
And I think a touch of Crystal meth or coke for good measure!
Excited to watch now that I read recap. Mykanos is on my bucket list – looks amazeballs
What struck me about Eden flipping out on her boyfriend was, she’s trying to apply her program to his quitting smoking. Analyzing his behaviors and such. In the program, it’s not ok to put down one drug and pick up another to cope, but in his case, he’s using nicotine mints to help wean off tobacco. That’s something else entirely. That’s not unhealthy behavior. Cut the man some fking slack….after she gets on his ass about eating a burger? Who cares, the man wants to have a burger! This was just very silly.
Probably best for him they split up.
Now I have heard of “sober” people in AA who only abstain from alcohol but not other meds/drugs. I don’t personally understand that. To me, sobriety is abstinence from all substances, but hey. If it works for her, I just didn’t expect it.
Erika’s scenes were great and Kyle really looks amazing, I can’t believe she’s had so many kids and has such a nice body. Good for her.
OH! That makes sense, Shae. At least more sense than Eden made. If she wants a man in her life, if seems she will need to stop dating me who don’t smoke, drink or eat meat. She needs to fish only in that small pond. A nice yogi maybe.
lmao, a very small pond indeed. It can be hard for people to turn the program off in regards to others. It just seems like she’s forgetting he doesn’t have to live as she does and she’s putting unrealistic expectations on him.
LVP’s face was priceless as Eden tried to explain burger-gate to her lol
That was unbelievable! A decent guy isnt found on every corner. Good luck finding someone with zero bad habits and total control like that, she’s being too controlling and judgemental. Just because she has addiction problems, doesnt mean she has the right to dictate and nit pick every lifestyle choice others make. No wonder she comes on so strong with Kyle about Kim. Perfectionism is not fun. Eden needs to lighten up and stay in her lane.
who wants a man like that? ugh.
Sounds like a lot to annoy me. 🙂
Better get shit done early.
Good thoughts TT.
Xo
Was Eileen in the episode?
What I mean by that is, did she do anything, have a storyline, or have a purpose?
Nope. Nope. Nope.
Still don’t see a reason for her to be on the show. All I’ve seen her do is get in the middle of things that don’t concern her and nag LVP relentlessly because she didn’t apologize in the matter Eileen thought she should. For an entire season.
^^^^THIS. All of this. You are absolutely right and these are the same sentiments that I have always had about Eileen.
Me too – every word!! I could not agree more. Eileen needs to go- and Dorit and PK should be gone, as of yesterday. From her actions to her insincerity, Dorit is a true lightweight- and PK comes across as a bozo who likes to appear to be wealthy and successful, doesn’t he?
Mykonos was very special – and Erika knows her lighting- those were cool pix when TT originally shared them with us- in retrospect, they are even more so!!
I feel Dorit would be hella more tolerable if she didn’t speak with that insufferable fake accent. The moments where she forgets to put it on she actually is less irritating.
I’ve wondered for years why Eileen keeps getting a contract renewal. She has nothing to add & is super self-righteous about all her pot stirring. I think she’s a nice enough person & pretty but not reality tv material. I want to be ENTERTAINED!
Eileen was rumored to have the highest first year contact in housewives history. She has a huge fanbase due to her many years on soaps across two networks. Lots of people love her.
Y’all are never satisfied. If a HW is nice, she’s boring. If she brings drama, she’s a pot stirrer. If they show their kids, they are using the show to get their kids work, if they don’t show their kids, they are hiding things.
If you just wanted to see the glitz and glamour with only moderate catfights, you’d be watching Ladies of London in much greater numbers than you watch RHOA.
The kid gloves are on.
I could agree with that, if Eileen actually DID something. She’s like wallpaper to me. Lovely to look at if you pay attention, but unless you actually pay attention to it, its just there and it fades into the background.
I’m right there with you TT.
Eileen is gorgeous. She is the absolute model of what to do with botox, facelift, filler, and I’m sure a lot of yoga and workouts. She’s always been a natural beauty, and the “work” she has had done is very subtle. That costs extra. She’s a pro.
I suspect that Erika is pregnant, and that’s why the t-shirt dresses..
I like Eileen and enjoy her friendship with Rhinna on the show. I think shes fair minded as well. I like that when Eileen is friends with someone, she’s really truely their friend. Kind of the same thing I like in Shannon from Orange county housewives. Such a lacking quality in most women I find. I have to admit, I also love her husband Vince!
You found a redeeming quality in Shannon Beador???
I agree, Janet. I love Eileen and Rinna, they are good friends and I think are genuinely themselves, faults and all, on the show. Shannon I find likable and charming, if not a little quirky lol
I adore Eileen. A lot of people do.
I don’t much like Eileen but having a pot stirrer around is useful to production I guess?
She can’t even be bothered to host an event. She’s had one her entire 3 seasons on the show, a crappy low budget poker party at her tacky home. No wonder she’s so insistent on harping on things over and over and over and over and over again. She knows she adds nothing but doesn’t want to lose the check. Someone has to pay for her husbands gambling problem after all.
To be fair, I think the ladies gripe about having to drive hours to Malibu to Eileen’s house for things lol I don’t think her home was ever going to be the place they congregated most often.
Yet they manage to make it out to Yolanda’s and Camille’s 3-5 times a season. The fact of the matter is that Eileen is lazy and doesn’t want to put in the Housewives work which is hosting event’s/dinner’s. Not only is she a complete bore but she’s a complete dud as a housewife. ctrl+alt+del she needs to be done!
Or maybe she has a full time job, and for last season TWO full time jobs, plus the show and six people in her family have recently died.
You clearly have a vendetta against Eileen, but your “lazy” attack is ridiculous. When was the last time LVP had an all cast event at her house?
Drops Mic.
I have a dislike for any Housewife not pulling their weight. She’s being paid over a quarter of a million dollars. DO SOMETHING! Stop harping on other people’s issues to gain relevancy on this show. Throw a party. Hawk crappy drapery. Pretend to do something for charity. Anything would be better than nothing.
Clearly you don’t watch Y&R. She’s barely been on for years now. Which is a travesty considering she’s only enjoyable when she’s playing someone other than herself.
And I don’t blame LVP for not wanting these vultures in her home anymore. Lord knows she’s thrown more parties in one season than most of them have in their total Housewives career.
Clearly YOU are a Y&R fan. I am a days fan and this shit is filmed MONTHS and MONTH in advance.
She actually been paid three quarters of a million dollars for her FIRST SEASON.
She is also paid by Y&R and Days. Her net work is way more than a woman on here on a work visa with multiple losses in court.
LVP has has two or three parties in her home. In all her seasons. Most of them are in her WeHo establishments.
You seem like some LVP minion trying to make her aging ass relevant. It’s not working here.
I looovvveeeddddd Kyle and Erika in Mykonos!!!! They seemed so genuine with each other, they were doing cool and fun things that I could never do, Kyle eating pasta looking gorgeous and relaxed was everything. Obviously things are produced so heavily in these shows but that all seemed so real. It also made me realize I don’t think I love lvp and Kyle together – I like them both a lot but lvp plays the game more, and I think Kyle can take that lead. Seeing her with Erika was fun and refreshing.
Eden needs to take a very large seat. No, Kim doesn’t seem okay, but fuck eden with something giant for her to pass judgement on someone else’s journey. She has her own journey with pills and good for her – everyone considers their own version of sobriety ok, and it’s personal. She can read house of Hilton and learn all she wants about the complicated family history and dynamics, but fuck her for using that, and her own sister, for camera time. Don’t mess with families. I can’t stand rinna for the same reason – people like that talk so much shit about other people to cover up their own darkness, and it creates very innocent victims.
You state it well- Eden is not over her own loss, and is still grieving. She is taking a rigid view of the recovery process, and apparently hangs on each word spoken in the model/program as an indelible rule, allowing no variation.
From her insertion of self , with uninformed views save Rinna’s manipulating ones, to her actions with her boyfriend, it is clear very early that Eden is unable to live life freely and thoughtfully, thinks she has the only answers, that they are written in stone and only her way works as she insists it must be. She won’t last, and is showing her own illnesses here.
Kim seemed off to me too- and I believe it is, and has always been, drug-related, most likely ones that should be prescribed, but she has a habit of seeking on the street, Kim has put so many substances into her body, simultaneously, for so many years that it would be very hard to determine a true sober healthy state- but she has not been in one for years, as she always does the drugs.
I agree with all what you said, and you said it so well. To me, Kyle is a truely happy woman, and I think she has every right to enjoy her life, and it seems to me, shes backed off a bit, from being so emeshed with her sister Kim. And I think that’s a really good thing for the both of them. “Journey” is a good word to describe it, and adults have to make their own journey themselves, in the end. You can give encouragement and support and your honesty and love, but it’s still their journey and they have to do it in their way and in their own time. And youve got to respect that, and let go of control and pressure, which doesn’t work anyway , and isn’t fair to Kyle either.
Honestly I just don’t give two shits about Kim’s sobriety and if this is the storyline, doubtful I’ll finish this season. She’s an adult.
Dorit and PK still give me that grifter vibe. I’ve begun to fast forward through their scenes.
I hate this season and it is a shame because I love Erika and the rest of them.
I’m not a fan of Erika – her stage performances leave me feeling embarrassed.
PK is just awful … I have to fast forward through his scenes.
Eden needs to take a seat in the corner alongside Eileen and Rinna.
I miss the spark that this show used to have – if it wasn’t for Kyle, I would tune out.
PK is ONLY 49? I thought he was late 50s…?
I thought it was a joke, like when women turn 29 several years in a row.
I tried to find a credible source for him being older than 49, but it looks like he really is.
I’ve seen that before though. Doesnt shock me, its just a variance in people and how they age, due to lifestyle, health, and genetics. Sometimes a guy that even looked super young and great in his early forties, will then by later forties look like he turned into his dad. Its like he put on twenty years instead of ten. But then I’ve seen other men that look even hotter at almost sixty. But PK is sorta cute to me cuz I like a chubby guy!
Looks like its true. You can look up his bankruptcy court documents online. It has his DOB listed as 8/23/1967.
I think it’s time for new cities, New casts, and the fun of the casts having no idea what they are in for. 🙂
Not only the thought of New Jersey. Not very excited the thought of Orange County and New York. Ugh.
Is it me or has anyone else noticed how Kyle is constantly flipping, touching, or smoothing her hair? I mean she is totally obsessed with her hair. She can’t complete a sentence without going for her Glory. She’s a lovely woman and all but my goodness, she seems self absorbed. I wish she would just do her scene and stop trying to look like a 20 year old girl. IJS
She is- and I think she adjusts her personality to fit whoever she is with. There is not one Kyle- there are many faces of Kyle. She is desperate to both be popular wit the group and develop a backup, after Yolanda and the last two years, to her friendship with LVP.
She wants to be on the winning side, whatever that is, and is still recovering from the mean Kyle, as judged by the audience,
After all, she has been badly bashed by the Kim situation – and needs friendship/as she judges it- where ever she can find it.
Great observation. I agree with your assessment.
Cosign.
Lisa Vanderpump looks old and tired to me. She doesn’t seem to fit in with the rest of the crowd. She fit in all too well with P.K., IMO.
Dorit must have memory issues. First, she doesn’t remember talking about Eileen’s loss of so many family members and then last night Lisa Rinna puts Xanax in ALL her smoothies.
I agree. Watching LVP with these women is like watching a geriatric hanging with milennials. She belongs on Vanderpump Rules as the mother hen. Around these girls she’s like the frumpy old hag who should have left the party hours ago.
Dorit seems to have very convenient “selective memory” or she has the brain of a gnat.
I think Rinna’s comment was hyperbole.
Exactly. There is no way anyone who needs a Xanax would put it in a drink. Also, Rinna would never ingest an entire smoothie.
I would never put it IN a drink, but I definitely have taken it WITH a drink.
I’m going with the gnat option lol
Let me tell you WHAT, the way Eden jumped on that bag of pills to see what was in there, umm, seen it before, she doesn’t drink. That’s it.
Yeah Cheryl. I agree. She was all over that bag, attempting to identify everything. The Kim we see may actually be the sober Kim. I have a family member who abused drugs and alcohol for most of her life. She’s the same age as me. She’s sober now but the damage has been done. I hope and pray Kim is indeed sober cause permanent brain damage from abuse ain’t a pretty sight. ALSO I think Eileen is a big draw for her soap fans, based on things I hear so she makes sense to me. And I really do like her even though she got on my nerves last year. Does Kyle wear extensions? Scheana Shay is constantly messing with her hair too and I wonder if that’s the reason. And I could probably spend the rest of my life looking at Eriika. To me she’s like a real life goddess with all encompassing sexual powers. Alas, I drank the delicious kool aid.
Brandi once said that Kyle and and one other cast member (Kim, I think) are the only ones who do not have extensions on the show.
Wow, then I really want to know what kind of products Kyle uses on her hair cause it’s beautiful!
I really wish they would have shown more of Erika and Kyle’s trip. They are a great match and fun to watch together! Their trip scenes are why I enjoy watching, not the crazy catfights!
If Kim were serious about her sobriety, she wouldn’t have come back on the show.
Real Housewives is as good for Kim’s sobriety as Southern Charm is good for Katheryn’ Dennis’ mental well being!
Geritol, Carter’s Liver Pills and Anacin?
To dare to be Zelda Sayre? Great Scott! American humor.
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Just wanted to give you heads up on Dance Moms, if your dvr cuts off, find previews for next week.
Think you’ll enjoy.
Good thoughts
Xo
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I can’t put my finger on it, but something about Eden reminds me a Brandi G. I don’t know why….but I feel she is trying to hard with the Kim & Kyle thing.
LVP sticking up for Kyle and Kim, may be because she doesn’t feel like she has a strong ally this year. Initially, she thought it would be Dorit, but she has proven herself to be irrelevant and already been on the outs with a few ladies. Erika is too real to stand for the BS, and has clearly chosen Kyle & Eileen over LVP.
LVP and Rinna….on the outs
LVP and Eileen….on the outs
Kyle – busy traveling with Erika.
Loved Erika and Kyle together. They could’ve done one special episode about that trip and it would’ve been great! LOL, I think LVP just got shoved to the back of the bus. Seems like Erika would be a lot more fun and less complicated to share the top with than LVP for Kyle. Now I see why LVP is out for Erika’s blood, she’s being outclassed by her.
I got the sense that LR was trying to pass a torch to Eden on Kim’s sobriety so the matter can still be discussed, but it’s the vulnerable Eden doing it. That’s terribly manipulative, but that’s exactly what that scene in the store felt like when LR brought up about Kim being close to dying, because of the history of Eden’s sister. Now that whole thing has taken on a life of its own as shown by the scenes with Eden and Kyle and now with LVP at tea. Not liking LR anymore.
On to the posers, btw, perfect description for them. The only thing their party lacked was smoke and mirrors. 😉 I get the impression this is Russell and Taylor Armstrong 2.0
You can tell LVP is threatened by Erika because her little attack dog, Dorit, goes after Erika every chance she gets.
1st – Pantygate
2nd – Dorit saying that Erika’s music must be a hobby because of their association with Boy George, uh – when’s the last time he hit #1 on anything??? Not saying he wasn’t good back in the day…
3rd – And this week talking about when she wore her t-shirt dress. The t-shirt dress wasn’t my taste either, but I certainly don’t attack a guest 5 steps in to arriving at my party either. Erika just keeps taking it on the chin. A true class act.
Kim is totally unsettled by Eden. Now that there’s someone legit who can pick up on Kim’s addict vibes, wouldn’t be surprised if this is Eden’s first and last year because of it. On the other hand, it would be nice if it caused Kim to stay away.
I loved Kyle and Erika’s trip together. I know last season Erika was a little irritated with Kyle because she’s kind of a prude, but I’m glad they both got over their things.
Dorit is fucking annoying and you could see her eyes light up with Rinna pulled out that bag of pillls and Eden admitted that she still takes mind altering pills. I keep a bottle of mixed pills in my purse Just in case, but not that many damn pills, and I certainly wouldn’t show them to someone like Dorit.
LVP sticking up for Kim and Kyle, whatever her motives were, was refreshing. Eden rubs me the wrong way. This isn’t Intervention or Celebrity Rehab..everyone is sick of the Kim Richards’ sobriety storyline.
I’m guessing it will be Dorito coming back next season, courtesy of her friendship with Kyle. Ugh. Cannot stand her or her revolting husband. Definite grifter vibe.
At least Eileen has spotted what a good liar she is. I cringed when Rinna talked about Xanax in front of Dorit. You could see her storing that comment up for the future and then exaggerating it as she did.
And did anyone notice Boy George sliding away from Dorit gossiping about LR’s packet of pills? And LVP then looked like the reasonable one questioning Dorit’s claims. A nicely rehearsed set-up. I don’t think Dorit minds looking like a conniving c**t if it gets her back next season.
I’m trying to figure out if PK & Dorit are using Boy George to be on the show [why would she use her husband’s talent for his party… it’s kinda weird?] or if they are using the LVP connection to promote Boy George and get a little infamy for Dorit. I dunno, Boy George is all about reality TV lately – the psychic show, The Apprentice and now RHOBH. If I was an “icon” why would I sell out to reality TV? Why would Boy George want to entertain the Housewives, I was actually shocked that they didn’t play the song on the show – maybe the rights were too expensive for TV broadcast vs internet broadcast? Both Boy George & PK need the money and image “rehab” I guess but it just felt a little…. dirty to me… a bit desperate for the opportunity to perform for us viewers or remind us …. Wait! He also did I Am Cait which is probably the only show that has an actual connection/reason for him being on!