It’s time for the next episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Everything in life seems like a blurry blip in time since the last time we came together for this. I am quite behind in getting started and very slow-witted tonight, but I shall plod forward in a sloth like pace. I am looking forward to this episode, because Erika and Kyle go to Mykonos. Something I cover for you in real time here. I also want to actually WATCH this episode, unlike my usual sort of listening and typing about what I hear. So let’s get this big fat gay party in Mykonos started!
Erika
I love Erika. I love most of the women on this show. If they would drop Dorit next season and bring Eden on full time the cast would be perfect. I am not sure that Eden will ever get bumped up, “the nice friends” who are actually wealthy and kind are always cut out. I miss you Lizzie, and Joyce! I think the “friends” should be the shit stirrers not the full timers.
I love Erika’s straight up disgust with offended people. It reads just like something I have said. It seems everyone is quite easily offended these days. #NotMyProblem
Erika’s video shoot for XXpensive looks like a lot of fun. Rinna and Eileen were there to watch the whole thing. Eileen is a bit obsessed with Erika, and who can blame her? She says in her confessional that she thinks since she brought Erika on to Y & R then Erika should let Eileen be in one of Erika’s videos. I could actually see that working. After Erika leaves, Rinna and Eileen vogue and get silly on her set. I love them together.
[Insert stupid scene with Dorit and PK here]
Kyle and LVP
I love watching people drive to Malibu, but I would get a huge case of the vapors if I were ever on the PCH. So dangerous looking ! These two and their spouses are in Malibu to give some free advertising to one of Mauricio’s listings. It’s like Million Dollar Listing meets RHOBH. It’s a massive 17 acre property. I love how Kyle says, “My husband went from being an agent “for someone else” to opening his own company five years ago. I have to say that Mauricio’s company is INCREDIBLY successful for a five year old company! This site just turned five and it takes all I have in me to keep all the plates spinning. I haven’t even had ads for the last month (I know you see like two but I do not have an adsense account so those really the old agency being sneaky) or two because my ad agency appears to be going bankrupt and is not paying and I had all my eggs in one basket. It’s a daily adventure trying to hash out new ad rev deals. Hopefully, y’all will be complaining about all the ads soon enough.
This looks like new construction. It’s magnificent. I think I am going to send the listing to my sugar daddy, NAA. Because, $120 million is totally pocket change.
Kyle says the drawback to Mauricio’s success is that he is working 24/7. I get that. I used to argue with my brother the businessman about his schedule when he couldn’t come to certain things. But you are your on boss! I would say. And his response was, “Exactly.” Now I get it.
LVP loves Portia who is there with the foursome. She is so ready to be a grandma. She says he name will be Nannie Pinkie. #Cute Portia, who is what? 8? 7? Already has named her future yacht, “Rosé, you say?” Which is a great name. And a sure sign she is officially a Rich Kid Of Beverly Hills.
So there is a whole scene to discuss Rinna bringing up Kim’s drunken behavior and arrests. On every show, there is always that one husband who wants to BE a housewife. On RHOBH, it is Ken. Ken and LVP tag team Kyle telling he that Rinna is inappropriate. Then LVP starts listing all of Rinna’s transgressions against Kim out of context including the text Rinna sent Kim about “Fucking her up” right in front of Porsha. Seems like Nannie Pinkie needs to learn how to speak in the presence of children. Then proving my point that Kyle, as the only housewife with a “producer credit” does not have control over editing, we get a long montage of Kim and Kyle fighting. Why is this necessary? Do we want to relive this again? I don’t.
Rinna and Eden
In one of those annoying she said/she said scenes we see Kyle and Eden shopping for yoga pants while discussing Kim, and Kyle. Eden feels like Kyle was not welcoming to her at the party. She said she felt she had an energy of disinterest in her or something. Rinna thinks that Eden should talk to Kyle because Kyle would not want her to feel that way.
Lisa tells Eden she doesn’t think Kim is completely sober. She says that Kyle enables Kim. I don’t think these conversations are appropriate for the show. I don’t think these conversations are appropriate. Rinna is concerned that Kim could die. I don’t need this heavy shit tonight.
And yet, we are going to have yet another scene with Kyle, Eden, and Rinna. Kyle has her mother’s wedding ring. I have my mother’s as well. My mother’s was not ten carat total weight like Kathy’s though! Maybe the next time I change out rings, I’ll be rocking a wedding set. I haven’t done that in a while. Eden is way too pushy with Kyle. She basically asks her if her mother was an alcoholic (meaning the ring was scripted) makes judgement about Kim. Personally, I think Eden is probably correct about Kim but Eden doesn’t even know Kyle, and once again, this discussion of Kim between a stranger and her sister is inappropriate. I am not loving Eden anymore.
LVP
Do we know why Max is adopted? If I did I forgot. Maybe just because? At any rate, they are going to see the attorney that facilitated the adoption to because Max wants to know more about his genetic history. There is nothing wrong with this other than, I really thought we were going to get to Mykonos tonight and it looks like that will be the tail end of the show to tease for next week. #Disappointed
Ah, LVP explains she was able to have more children but she wanted to adopt. And she heard of Max who was in foster care and she just wanted him. I love when LVP is genuine. It’s very touching. Lisa says in England she and Ken asks to adopt four more children when she was 35 and they were turned down for being to old. Wow. Better to leave them to foster care than to give them a home with two loving parents? Lisa gets emotional talking about when they got Max at the airport and walks out of camera range. #MoreHeavyStuff
FINALLY WE ARE TAKEN TO GREECE
I love Greece. I love Greek men. I love Greek olives. I love it all. I almost booked a trip to Greece last year because you can get some really good deals on the Greek Isles now. I am over the whole Mykonos scene now, and was thinking of staying on Paros, a smaller very low key island. The producers tell us that Erika’s house was rented for $50K a week. I’m not buying that. Greece’s economy unfortunately continues to struggle despite more than one bail out.
When Kyle arrives, Erika gives her a gorgeous room with a Juliet balcony overlooking the water. There is not screaming and yelling about who gets what room. Erika loves Kyle. I like these two together.
Dorit
Dorit takes Rinna and Eileen to lunch to discuss #Pantygate. AGAIN. This is supposed to be a makeup meeting. Dorit says that she had a few to many drinks that night. Dorit, like many of you, feels like Eileen keeps bringing it up. Yet, here we are with another scene that Dorit orchestrated. Surely she sees how filming works by now.
Can we just all stop to stare at how beautiful Eileen is at 57 years old? She is really just stunning. Sorry. Distracted.
Also this hotel they are drinking water at is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!
Rinna says that sometimes she says things in a way that is not always the nicest, but truth is, she is always right. Rinna is the Tee Cee of RHOBH.
In the end, they all make up. And I am still mesmerized by Eileen’s beauty. When I was growing up watching Days of Our Lives with my mama, I thought the woman who played Hope was the most beautiful person in the world. Now, I am pretty sure it is Eileen. She drop dead gorgeous and kind. #EndFanGirlRant
I am so disappointed that we only got four minutes of Mykonos. But it looks like next week we get a performance by Culture Club and Erika’s concert performance. UF would have love this upcoming episode. 🙁 And sadly, Eden calls Kim’s “sobriety” into question. I am not saying she is wrong, I just don’t want to see it. 🙁
I too am over the Kim discussions. I like Rinna but it is so inappropriate to keep bringing it up and diagnosing her.
Eileen is beautiful. Period.
I don’t think Ken wants to be a housewife. I feel like he is tired of the show and wishes LVP wouldn’t return. The last few seasons he’s been cantankerous and it looks like in a bit of pain with his hip. I actually kind of worry about the guy.
But this season, he jumps into Every conversation giving opinions about scenes he was not in. People used to get pissed at Peter for his opinions but at least he was there when things happened and is entitled to his opinions. Ken just blathers on regurgitating LVP’s opinion.
Personally, my opinion is that recently Ken;s health just doesn’t look as great as it did , of course when the show first began, but for reasons we are unaware of, he just seems to be not putting up with the bull crap this year, or last year. or anymore for that matter, and he is entitled to that. I believe if it were up to him , LVP wouldn’t be doing this or VPR anymore. I think he wishes she would retire with him, but he knows she won’t, and he has to go along with her wishes, so he does to the best of his abilities, and that is what we are seeing, a cantankerous man. And I for one, have always respected Ken and I feel for him, and wish him peace.
I think Ken is defending his wife. My husband would defend me whether he thought I was wrong or right.
Wasnt he talking about what Rinna said to Kim at an event he wasn’t at that had nothing to do with LVP?
yes
Would your husband call your friends stupid bitch? When not knowing all the info. Probably.
Mine would, just not on camera. He is smarter than that. 🙂
I never forget who made my daughter cry or who may have done my Hubby wrong. I think Ken is just keeping score and has no tolerance for the bull. Plus isn’t he allowed to have a harsh opinion? There are certainly no shortage of that here.
The part with Rinna and Eden was unnecessary and totally out of line. Whether Kim is sober or not, it is none of Rinna’s business and to say she was ‘an inch from death’ was too much. Way too much.
The thing that gets me with Kyle is, if anybody says one bad thing about Faye Resnick, she is all over them. But she lets people say horrendous things about her sister. I don’t care how upset I am with a member of my family, I will defend them with every ounce of energy I have.
Love seeing LVP be vulnerable with Max.
Am over Erika Jayne.
I think Kyle has a ton of loyalty to Kim, way too much to me. I dont feel Kim deserves as much as she gets, and does not show it to Kyle or her nieces in return. I remember Kim threatening to reveal bad things about her niece that was bitten by her dangerous dog that she refused to keep anyone safe from. She showed very little concern twords that niece. If one of my siblings treated my son like that, I would be LIVID and would not probably ever feel the same twords them again. I dont care about them bringing up the truths about Kim really, she shouldn’t be on the show, and Im tierd of the lies and cover ups and tip toeing around. I dont want to see Kim on the show after all she has done.
You have a valid point, but that’s between sisters arguing with each other. Family members argue all the time. It’s quite different when others are talking.
Exactly PBL, Sibling relationship are all different. As someone with a large family, there is no way for anyone to grasp the history with siblings after watching them on a reality show. We might get the general idea, but it’s unfair to say that Kyle has too much or not enough loyalty to her sister. So much that we don’t fully understand. This goes for Rinna and Eden’s butting in as well.
To me it was more than arguing, it was a family member not showing normal concern or love for another family members child, and threatening to TELL ALL on them on TV. I come from a large family as well, and we all have our own famlies, so there’s quite a few of us. I would NEVER treat a niece or nephew like that or any young person. It was beyond hurt feelings or a dumb argument. Also, when Kim was buddies with Brandi she was extremely spiteful twords Kyle. Their relationship sucks big time and I wouldn’t put up with it if it were me. I have one sister I dont really care for, and I don’t have that much to do with her. I tried for a long time and I don’t want to anymore.. The other sister and my brother I enjoy much more so I see and talk to them much more often. Even though it’s family you just like some of them more and some yoi try to tolerate. If you treat my kid bad you’re not going to have me in your corner though. That’s my bottom line and fortunately my family has never done that.
But your life, and Kyle’s life are completely different. While I understand what you are saying, you can’t live in anyone’s skin but yours. Sometimes things are going on that you know nothing about. And people make the best choices they can at the time.
I think Kyle is ground down by Kim’s issues and I don’t blame her at all – anymore than I’d blame Kim for being an addict. Kyle has probably been schooled (by their mother) to deny, deny, deny and keep the show on the road. The scene with Eden was incredibly uncomfortable to watch.
Rinna also needs to stop discussing Kim’s sobriety. It’s getting her nowhere.
That said, if you’ve got major issues, you can’t go on a reality show and expect to control the narrative. Kim and Kyle should know that by now.
Yes, I totally agree with Jasmine. I have a sibling who is addicted, and I am so sick of his shit. I certainly wouldn’t defend him, because his BS is indefensible. People who don’t have addicts in the family don’t necessarily understand this dynamic. If anything, I feel that Kyle is too easy on Kim, but she will be damned one way or the other.
That said, I though Rinna’s comments were totally out of line. Unless she has been surveilling Kim, she has no idea whether she is sober or not. Personally, I think Kim is in a state of arrested development; she is emotionally stuck at the age she was when she became addicted. So I think her antics might be immaturity because she hasn’t really functioned as an adult perhaps ever. She might also have a different mental health problem. But for Rinna to go on TV to make a declaration that she isn’t sober to millions of viewers was outrageous.
I generally find Rinna likeable, but not when it comes to Kim. Look carefully at the footage from Amsterdam – she totally came at Kim physically when Kim sat in her seat and made a verbal statement. That reaction was so outsized compared to the offense. I found Porsha’s reaction to Kenya’s megaphone in her ear more defensible than Rinna’s reaction to an innuendo about Harry.
I’m so tired of the sober or not conversation too – one has only to look @ Kim’s skin to tell if she’s still sober. Kim’s tell-tale sign is when she was sober her skin was so young and she looked vibrant. I thought she was really looking old at the game party though.
As for Kim being an eligible target? imo Any time she’s being filmed on a “reality show”, she’s and any topic are fair game. She doesn’t like it being brought up? Well, there’s a solution for it. Just sayin’…
I do think part of Kyle’s issue on it being discussed is that she feels guilty for being the one to let the cat out of the bag. BUT, Kim pushes button like no one I’ve ever seen, so she shouldn’t be exempt from “what goes around comes around.”
This is the first season kim actually seems sober, and thd producers pull this? Ugh.
B KIM was not living the Sober Life at this time. Was she going through perhaps a dry spell? Maybe, but she wasn’t working a program.
I agree with you about Ken. He’s just pathetic, calling women bitches and stuff. I remember last year when the women were gathering, talking about Erika’s video and Ken was the only man there, holding his wife’s dog. It was ridiculous.
Kyle shuts down because she knows she will be ignored when she tells others she won’t talk about it, that even if she says something that is the truth about her sister she will be vilified by her own family and a ton of Internet assholes.
The people who identify her as Kims enabler, as a criticism, then turn around and take on a line of questioning that CLEARLY makes the assumption that Kyle is responsible for her sister’s wellbeing, sobriety status, etc.
Kyle mentioning how about asking questions about her instead of making Kim the topic of conversation gave me an incredible flash of insight on what her childhood was like.
Kyle has lived on the other end of an addict/alcoholic for years and has had the bumpiest road you can imagine, Kim is downright evil in her illness. She is one of the worst I’ve seen, honestly. The hell an addict puts their family through when they’re using is beyond and Kim spared Kyle nothing in that regard. For a long time you could plainly see Kyle enable her, many families do because they think they’re “helping”. They fix the problems for the person, help financially, keep their issue quiet, ignore, etc. All of that is enabling and Kyle and her husband did much of that. out of love, I’m sure, but it was enabling none the less. At a point, I’m pretty sure Kyle and Mauricio cut her off financially which is exactly what they should do. Kim needs to feel the consequences of her actions, saving her from herself will not help her at all.
I think Rinna was stating it as a fact, not a criticism of Kyle so much. Many loved ones enable and she understands that Kyle is terrified of Kim dying and them being on the outs. Kyle does feel responsible for caring for her sister which makes watching her sister self destruct all the more difficult. I get that.
I don’t think Rinna had any malicious intent. she has her own experiences with addiction in the family and that does different things to people.
Generally love all your comments but respectfully disagree with some of what you’ve said. Kim is a garden variety alcoholic-I see women and men walk into AA every week with so much more on their plate. The only difference is Kim was a child star. Nobody would blink at Kim’s stories-truly.
In AA they say, “Clean your own side of the street” before you judge another. I try not judge Kyle, I haven’t walked in her shoes. I don’t know all the details of her shared childhood with Kim. I don’t know much about their lives, only what I see on an hour long show. People try to do their best under very difficult circumstances. Many people tend to look at these situations as very clear cut cut, in black and white but life just isn’t like that; it’s messy and complicated. This family has the additional complication of being a newsworthy story whenever someone messes up. That’s a lot of additional pressure. Kim’s sisters are also very wealthy-more complications.
I don’t think Rinna cares a bit about Kim-which is just fine but she needs to back off. I find her disingenuous and she feigns concern. At game night, she made a show of asking Kim a few questions than almost immediately commenced rolling her eyes after Kim made a toss of comment. That’s passive-aggressive, teenage BS. Then she meets with Eden and talks some more behind Kim’s back. Then she drags Kyle into it when she knows Kyle doesn’t want to talk about Kim. I think she uses her for a storyline. (Fwiw, Eden, a sober women in AA, should know better)
I’m not giving Kim a pass for her bad behavior but when I watch, I see someone who is in a much different place than the other women. Kim’s led a really hard life; mentally she’s probably 18 yrs old-the age when she first began using. The other women are all in a much better place; they are all married and successful. I don’t understand their fascination with Kim’s illness. Anyway, in summation, alcoholism and mental illness just suck. (I am nothing if not eloquent)
I agree.
I also think that Rinna used Kim as a stand in for what should have been Rinn’s own storyline the year that they went to Amsterdam. That season, Rinna didn’t do much except stir the pot about others, much like LVP does in every season while feigning concern so that she looks like a great humanitarian. This BS dynamic has much to do with why I despise LVP. I wouldn’t doubt that there is something weird about Lisa and Harry’s marriage, given Rinna’s extreme reaction to Kim’s comments in Amsterdam and also Harry’s reluctance to be on camera.
Oh you’re absolutely right, I’ve seen and heard far worse in the rooms. But maybe it’s my intense personal dislike for Kim that makes me feel like she’s the worst. She rubs me the wrong way worse than any other addict/alcoholic I’ve come across in recovery.
But that’s my shit, I suppose lol
You might be right, there’s certainly a case to be made for Rinna being fake and not caring a fig about Kim, but that’s just not the vibe I I was getting personally. I think as much as she doesn’t like her, she wants her to get well.
You’re right, in summation, they definitey do lol
If I’m really going by my program, I ought to get into why Kim bothers me so much and work on that lol
I don’t think Rinna had any malicious intent, but what the fuck about that Eden? She’s projecting or something.
“Hi, nice to meet you. So, was your mother an addict? Is your sister still actively using? You know what you should do….”
People need to stop shoulding all over Kyle. She stated once (and then said she wasn’t going to mention it again b/c she wanted to protect the others at that meeting) that she had attended some Al-Anon meetings. I respect her for that – going and not talking about it much b/c of her fame.
Now, her pat answer when someone is drilling her like that is “If you are uncomfortable asking Kim this question directly, you need to be uncomfortable asking ME that question” or “I am not responsible for her sobriety, nor will I speak to you about it. Ask Kim”.
Definitely, she was projecting and just getting too intense/invested, too quickly, in other peoples’ problems. Super off-putting, even though she meant well.
If Eden is working a program then she knows better than to be taking Kim’s inventory. I am sick and tired of the Kim Richard’s story line.
That’s also very true.
But it happens so often, myself included.
(I’m taking both their inventories here, apparently lol)
I think that Eden was primed by Lisa Rinna. All of the things that Rinna told Eden prior to meeting with Kyle would make someone in recovery concerned. I mean Rinna told Eden that Kim was an inch from death, that she is only partly sober, and that Kyle is enabling her. The questioning was intrusive, but at the same time, I think their was some malice in Rinna setting the stage for that interrogation. I actually like Rinna and always have. But, I don’t think anything that she says about Kim is coming from a place of real concern. Which is fine. i wouldn’t think any less of Rinna if she had not one fuck to give about Kim and her sobriety.
I just think it is a bad look for Rinna to be pretending to be concerned about someone that she obviously still has a LOT of animosity towards.
Spot on, Shae! Rinna is calling a spade a spade. If Kim was working any kind of program she would be much more introspective and less hostile. Kim is still playing the victim. (Her best acting ever imho!)
I’m sorry but I cannot get into Eden… she talks in too many hashtags. #Ijustcantreadthatmanyhashtagswhicharenotusedironically
When Eden started talking about dark energy or bad energy she lost me. I would have cracked up right in her face if she started talking like that in front of me. All I can picture is a cord coming out her belly button plugged up to a wall socket with sparks flying. It is so fake, talk normal woman! When Eden met Rinna and they Hollywood greeted,Eden’s hair barely moved, That was weird looking. Eileen is beautiful but boring. She has no storyline. I would love it if we got to know her better. Let’s see a heart to heart between Erika and Eileen where they get to know each other more deeply. I am over Rinna, she has a mean streak . I would not be friends with her . The camera did show Rinna and Eileen rolling their eyes at Kim, which set Kim off. Not a Kim fan but that would have made me mad too.
They rolled their eyes at Kim because, once again, Kim was commenting on a subject that she knew nothing about. She was spewing the Vanderpump party line about Rinna and Eileen acting the way they did to Vanderpump because of the deaths in their families. Eileen and Lisa R were like *eye roll* here we go again with that ridiculous comment. Possibly, *eye roll* Kim’s been coached by Team Vanderpump.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but that’s what I remember about the blow-up on game night.
I didn’t actually see the eye roll. But, I do remember that Kim said that Lisa Rinna has used her parents as an excuse for her behavior. I thought she was referencing the reunion when Rinna said that her dad used to shush her as a child and it triggered something in her. But, that was just where my head went.
But, I don’t think that Kim was trying to play some VanderPump party line. Kim has her own ax to grind and while she and VDP are no longer adversaries, I think Kim’s dislike of of her is still very strong.
But Kim did say something that was factual. Rinna and Eileen do actually feed off each other. The problem with Kim is that she has done so many terrible things and has been so unlikeable, that when she points out something truthful (however hypocritical she may be for pointing it out) it is usually dismissed because she has behaved so horribly throughout the seasons.
And I have to say that Kim is one of the few housewives that I have ever actively disliked. I love Rinna, Eileen, LisaV, and Kyle. I’m not a huge fan of Erika (I personally find her boring and humorless) but I don’t dislike her either. I can actually list the number of housewives I have ever disliked on one hand and that is from all of the franchises combined . So, when I say that I agreed with Kim about Eileen and Rinna feeding off each other, I’m still surprised by it myself.
They do feed off each other and make issues much bigger than they should be by the time they get with the rest of the women. And all of the women do that in their own way. So, while I don’t care for Kim, she wasn’t wrong in that. Her problem was (as always) it wasn’t about the conversation that was actually happening, it was about Kim and how it affected her.
Sorry, feeling long winded tonight. I just love this show! It’s my favorite out of all of the franchises with New York and Orange County in a tie for second.
I love Eileen!
I used to feel that way when people talked about mystical stuff, but not anymore. I’ve had too many weird things happen to me, that I’m a total believer in the energy that people give off, and the immense power of it, and good and evil. I can believe that Kim’s energy is very dark. I dont judge Kyle’s handeling of Kim at all. Perhaps I’ve come across that way, but really I am saying I understand if she vacilates from loyality to being open to criticism of her sister. I agree Kim pushes buttons and her addiction mode of operandi is nasty ugly. Kim is on a reality show, so good luck hiding and controlling the narrative. And basically I dont care if her stuff is exposed. I just can’t gear up any outrage over it and I find Eden interesting and Rhinna brave.
Why is it that every time PK comes into my screen I feel that I need to take a shower…?
hahahaha Ditto!
Who is PK?
Dorit’s creepy husband.
An unHitched Cock?
Thank you, I thought it was just me
What part of stfu does Lisa rinna not understand. And who the hell does that new woman think she is. Wow. I am flabbergasted. That they are doing this again with Kim and kyle. It’s not anyone’s business omfg. Leave it be already. They really are disgusting. Two people who have no idea what’s going on in someone’s life to make the statements that they made.
It’s such a boring storyline too. It’s been done to death!
If I remember correctly Eden’s sister and Kim were friends back in the day.
aka drug buddies.
But let’s discuss the true ” elephant in the room ” that grandma blouse that Rinna was wearing in the restaurant with Eileen & Dorit-o . . .
I was thinking the same thing! The other girls in white in this beautiful restaurant and Rinnas wearing purple leopard from Kmart.
Vanderpump”s tag line about the crown is redundant. Erika has already taken it. I think Kyle has seen the writing on the wall with regards to that.
Agreed. It makes me sad that I’ve seen the curtain slip on LVP. This season she just seems…tiresome, and not that fabulous.
First of all, Eden came on to Kyle way too strong. I do genuinely believe she wanted to get to know her and to help Kim, (Eden actually behaves like a woman working a program, unlike Kim), so I think her motives were good. However, she pressed way too far and too fast, she had no business asking those questions. I get that she has issues with how her sister was troubled and died, and may reach out to others too quickly to compensate for that, but she needed to pump the brakes with Kyle.
It was very telling when Kyle responded to Eden’s question about whether or not Kim was working a program. She stammered and basically said she doesn’t know, they don’t talk about it. When someone is actively working a program, it’s obvious and you can tell without them discussing it with you. They go to meetings, they have a sponsor (they may have sponsees), they work steps, they make amends, they do service work, etc. You cannot hide it. She would know her sister’s sponsor, she would know Kim was in a fellowship, she would know Kim was doing steps because she would be inevitably involved in her amends, etc.
Kim may or may not be sober, I don’t know, but she’s not working any program at all. You can tell instantaneously by her behavior toward Rinna. That’s not how a solid, sober woman approaches a person they have unresolved issues with.
Dorit is clearly a dimwit and I give Eileen credit for tolerating her babble and being as patient as she was.
It seems Kim is very resistent to rules, guidence or structure of any kind, no matter how high the stakes are. It’s never bad enough to inact a change. No humility or ability to see outside herself exists. A stubborn know it all, you cant tell me anything and I’m smarter and superiour, to everyone else type. I have read that this the one kind of person who can’t ever be helped, and AA or any program is not going to work for them. That’s why I think Kim has to have her inner circle constantly saying how perfect and right she is, despite the evidence to the contrary. She believes her own bull shit too much to ever let go and surrender.
I think Kyle said that they were raised basically without rules. However, to be a child actor, I would think you would have to be quite disciplined and follow instructions, etc.
Who knows, but them I guess.
Rules at WORK, but perhaps not at home? My goodness, Kyle was at Studio 54 at TEN! It is amazing she didn’t go down the path Kim is on, or like Drew Barrymore.
Very true! Goes to show, some have the gene or are just predisposed, while other kids in the same family, living in the same circumstances, are not. I think Kim has had a lot of trauma in her adult life too, which certainly wouldn’t help that situation. At a certain point though, you need to make a decision to change. She’s been afforded better and more help than most regular people struggling with addictions. trauma, etc, could ever hope to receive.
I agree. I work with a lot of people in recovery and it is in their daily lexicon.
She said it rents for $50k, not that she rented it for $50k! Someone probably paid $50k for it one time.
I totally agree about Kristian Alfonso, aka Hope, and Eileen. They are both truly stunning.
I’m still hoping Eileen will go back to Days at some point. I don’t see it happening, at least not anytime soon. Why would she, they pay her half to work twice as much, plus she seems far more attached to YR. But Kristen is awesome and she should be in Salem.
I’m lovin’ Erika too. What you see is what you get and she doesn’t take crap off anyone. She’s having a great time with her singing career and everything that goes along with it. It was so much fun to watch Eileen and LR being groupies at the video shoot. Would love to see what Erika and Eileen could do in a video together. lol
I personally think Erika and Eileen would be a better match than Erika/Kyle or Eileen/LR. I understand why Erika thinks she and Kyle are good as friends (fun times partying), but I don’t think Erika knows how much of a shit stirrer and gossip queen Kyle is. It took Kyle 2 seasons to learn how to modify her on-screen persona to make her appear cured, but her treachery still shows through occasionally.
She’s not afraid of anyone – including LVP, which is why LVP is not quite sure how to deal with her. I HAVE noticed every time Erika’s husband is around, LVP is flirting with him just like she does with all the wealthy men, except PK. I think LVP sees PK through all the smoke and mirrors lol.
Why can’t these shows have more scenes like the video shoot? Erika’s having a blast and
It’s so much more fun to watch them truly having fun than it is to watch them continuously looking at their cell phones to see what other crap they need to stir up.
I love Lisa Rinna because she says stuff we, as commenters, are thinking anyway. From Yolanda’s faked illness, Kim’s sobriety, and Lisa Vanderump’s manipulations, she is a hoot! And thank you TT for pointing out how beautiful Eileen is. I have always thought she was stunning too.
I really felt bad for Max in that scene. LVP totally made his adoption all about her and there is poor Max with what I imagine a hundred different emotions having to comfort Lisa. Then Lisa says she and Ken gave Max to Pandora. What was he a present?
They meant physically handed him to her, I believe. As in, she was first to hold him.
I think max’s adoption meeting was very much about Lisa and Ken, as they are his adoptive parents and they inevitably have tons of emotions tied up in this. But the fact they’re even there, shows they put him and his needs first. I’m sure they’d rather not do this, if he hadn’t asked. I think it’s amazing they are so supportive of him looking into his biological family, many would struggle with that. My mom is adopted and I cannot imagine the hurt my grandparents would feel if she had ever suggested wanting to know where and who she came from. They would not feel like lisa and ken do, they would be crushed. I did one of those dna genetic tests to see what my full ethnic background was, etc. and I was not even allowed to tell them I did that because it might hurt their feelings that I was wondering about my mom’s side.
It can be very delicate.
Lisa was emotional, but she seemed happy to be there, just overwhelmed talking about how they got Max and whatnot. Not broken up and upset that he is interested in his background.
I just felt so bad for him. He’s sitting there wondering what if anything he’s going to find out. Excited, scared all at once. I understand Lisa being emotional but that moment was for Max and here he is having to comfort her.
I hear you, it looked rough for all of them. Kudos to him though for having the nerve to ask. He must’ve been afraid of their reaction, like he might hurt them to suggest. I think he has a good head on his shoulders, that Max 🙂
Agreed and I think Lisa and Ken are good parents.
Yes!! I’m sure she did not mean it like that but I thought the same exact thing. it’s a baby not a baby doll!
Thank you! I just thought it diminished Max and felt for him.
I am and adoptee who found her birth mother, birth mother and mother to three adopted sons so I’m kind of familiar with adoption. It’s different for everyone, as are most things. It’s really hard to evaluate someone’s reactions and feelings about something that runs so deeply. I try and take these things at face value and not evaluate them. Whatever each of them was feeling in that meeting, that’s valid and that’s real.
I was adopted also but at the age of 9. Actually paid to have the whole thing overturned and my birth certificate changed back to the original. I do agree it’s very personal and each person entitled to their feelings.
Eden’s a goofball. I don’t think I am going to vibe with her.
I know edit play into these episodes but honestly Kim is the one that bought all this back up with Rina.
And as far as alcoholism goes, Rina is right, Kyle is an enabler.
As far as LVP & Ken go, see you don’t get to run around calling Kim names and talking about her problems when she is mean to you but proclaim how great she is and everyone should feel sorry for her when she is nice to you.
Greece’s economy is in shambles; Mykonos’ is not. Home prices are as high there as they were before the crisis (if not higher), hotel/Airbnb rates and retail prices are much higher on Mykonos and Santorini than elsewhere in Greece because tourism (mostly foreign, as in non-Greeks) is still alive and well on those islands (for example, there is a big business for wealthy brides from China to come and take their bridal photos on Santorini–not have a destination wedding or the honeymoon, just photos!). Sidenote: Paros is great (food, beaches, nightlife) but not small–you need a car if you want to see everything, and even then there’s always more. Andros is another good one that is probably even more low key.
In my house when we had teenagers around saying “whatever” during a discussion was about the same as saying FU or flipping the bird. I have noticed since the last reunion Elieen uses it a lot. Whenever she is trying to make one of her many points she will say “oh well, whatever”. It makes me here her conversation quite differently when inserting FU in place of whatever.
Well, so be it. LVP, Dorit and her Creep deserve a lot of “whatevers” from Eileen.
Yup. Eileen’s too classy to turn it into a FU. I sometimes think she’s far too mature for the nonsense that goes on around her with some of these women.
And I think much of it is a game of avoidance- who can they criticize/discuss so they don’t have anyone discussing themselves and their family issues? Vince appears to be a loose cannon/oddball with a history of tennis playing and betting on card games- there is obviously more to it if he is seriously in debt form his gambling/card playing, while she has been working on TV for 25 plus years. What has he been doing? If he was one of the top five tennis players in the world , when and why did he stop?
And there are so many questions about Harry Hamlin and Rinna’s relationship. This line she threw out again this week about,” I’ll do anything for money” has its roots in some issue. Given the length of their marriage and her consistent comments about being desperate to make money, what else is up here?
Neither Eileen nor Rinna have been willing to allow their family members to be discussed the show, as we know. They are delighted to gossip away about others and find common ground in their issues, as long as they are far away from their world. That is, unless they themselves bring them up and manage (control) the discussion
For every single instance when either Eileen or Rinna accuse LVP or others of manipulation or anything else, They are doing the exact same thing. AS Kyle’s line says this year, I see right through you. Enough with the nonsense, and trying to make it seem you are concerned about Kim or anyone else for that matter, it is all calculated- both of them. Until someone like Brandi throws wine at them, at which point, they are shocked do a good victim act.
Sorry, I just am not buying it, They are both too savvy. And have a clear agenda.
This I agree with 100%
I don’t mean to be snarky but I think you are reading waaaay too much into it.
I believe Vince was #5 on the JUNIOR circuit. Per Wikipedia, his highest overall international rank was 26. Even if he was #5 at one point, unless that was weeks and weeks at that ranking and he did enough tournaments and qualified enough to get some of the cash prizes to cover his expenses – it wouldn’t be something to sustain a family on.
However, poker CAN be something lucrative. I think he stays in the tournaments long enough to get “in the money”. I think I’ve also seen him do some of the announcing/color commentary on World of Poker shows (my dad used to watch them – me too, when a high school buddy of mine did the same thing. )
I’ve followed Rinna a bit for years – she was on Days when I still watched almost every single day. The “I’ll do anything for money” trope is a familiar one – people made fun of her for doing the Depends commercial years ago, and for trying QVC (it isn’t lucrative for everyone – but it is her I am guessing!) They have nice things, but live in an expensive town and as actors, without a ‘steady job, steady paycheck”. I see nothing wrong with their work ethic, or that they aren’t ashamed to take a job just for the financial rewards. HH career has certainly had its highs and lows – but I doubt he made enough on LA Law to sustain his family on that forever.
Haven’t they talked about Eileen’s and Lisa’s family on the show? The problem is, they aren’t as interesting as the others’ families. Plus, HH has been off working too, so no time to be filmed constantly like Ken or PK.
Now, do I approve of Lisa consistently bringing Kim into the mix with Kyle around? No. Do I think they use her as they used her last year with the whole Yolanda thing? Yes. But with Kyle refusing to talk about it, if Lisa didn’t do it with such enthusiasm or go for the jugular blunt comments to Kim… I think the subject would go away OR would come up more naturally. (I mean, come on – Kim was ARRESTED. People are fucking talking… Lisa is just honest enough to do it on camera)
I’ll think more about it, but frankly both Lisa and Eileen have had their own issues, which they have bargained to keep off the show.
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Purportedly Rinna negotiated a contract that demanded HH not be mentioned while she was on the show. I remember her from Days, and from WWHL before she joined BH- said she never would. I remember the Depends commercials, etc., but think HH has had a varied life- has been accused of fathering other children in recent years, of all kinds of things,
I too valued Rinna’s open critical thinking til she reversed herself time after time, and went after people for political and other purposes- while keeping the subject from closing in on her issues last season, and Yolanda’s. She has had a very personal agenda going here, and appears (from real experience) that her views are fungible, if in fact she has a need that requires it, as she apparently did last year.
Eileen’s problem was much more obvious last year- Bravo was openly taping and showing a storyline that reflected the discontent in their marriage that Vince was displaying. It was very clear that she got the subject changed, and the only storyline she had to fall back on was making something of something else. She succeeded in keeping history from exposing more about her and Vince’s romance and cheating history, before they were each divorced. Rather, she got the story turned onto LVP ,and how she was manipulating the discussion and how evil that was- as Eileen went on for months about ONE conversation when LVP raised ONE word Eileen didn’t appreciate.
I too think Eileen is beautiful and have followed her for years on Y & R, but have been disappointed as she switched gears to prevent her private life form disclosure- just as Rinna did. it’s natural that hey would bond as they each protect the other, but enough with the self- made sense of higher judgment and moral code. They are on a reality show and are protecting their reality, to ensure as little of their vulnerabilities/unhappier issues are made public as possible.
I understand, but let’s not ascribe positive motivation to a more base one- self- protection at all cost.
I do also though, completely agree with you that it is also VERY unnatural for Kyle or KIm to expect NO ONE to discuss her arrests . Of course they have been public and obtained the most press coverage of anyone on the show. Of course it must be covered. It is classic KIm- and delusional- to expect it not to be addressed.
Do you watch #RHOBH? Rinna talks about HarryHamlin all the time, It’s one of her favorite topics.
LVP has problems that she obviously keeps off the show. Have you ever heard the restaurant court case (btw, Lisa and Ken lost) mentioned? Nope…and I’ll bet you never will. LVP and Ken are not as pure as some would like to believe.
I think Vince is just fine, he makes his living this way. That’s different than being a gambeling addict. There are sucessful poker players. He’s gorgeous too! Eileen is lucky and they have a cute little boy together too and the other older sons. Rhinna has the work ethic and their stores went bankrupt so there’s that. She probably wants to set her family up good and enjoy her career. Both those ladies are blessed and way better off than Kim. No contest there.
I agree, I see an agenda also. I have also noticed Y & R is referred to by Eileen as HER show, granted she has 25 yrs in but I am pretty sure there are other cast and crew. Seems condensing to me.
Vince was a massive TV star back in the day when there were only three channels.
I have seen extensive coverage of Eileen and Rinna’s families. Eileen and Vinny, their kids, Eileen’s family members who have passed and their sicknesses, etc. Rinna’s parents, they went back to her hometown to visit with her family, Rinna’s kids and their work/issues, etc. the death of her father and situation with her mom.
That was all about their families. Theirs are just a much a part of the show as the rest – except for Kyle, who up until recently had an actual sibling as a cast member, so obviously her “family” was more front and center. And a hot mess.
Ugh. Dorit. Don’t want her to be here now, hope she doesn’t return, BUT, maybe, some good stuff will come out at the reunion. 🙂 I find myself constantly watching her for fake accents, fake behavior etc. Gosh, she could be the nicest person ever, but I sure pick up a fake vibe.
I think Kim and Kyle must both be very aware of the fact if Kim returns, the topic of her addiction will be a good part of it. I mean, really? I don’t l Eden being the savior, this is not intervention, that’s on A&E, same time!!
I cried when LVP was talking about bringing Max home, as an adoptive mother I know those fears. And my husband is EXACTLY like Ken, he will defend me to the death and if you malign my character, you’ll wish you hadn’t. LR and Eden, well icky. That was gratuitous and cruel. Kim’s journey belongs to Kim. It’s should especially be obvious to both of them expressing so much experience and concern w matters of addiction that until the person is ready to get help, you can’t help them. Eileen I swear to God beats everything that offends her to death. Yes she’s beautiful on the outside but I find her unpleasant. Dorit is the comic relief and an easy target. Read some blogs this morning and it looks as if she might end up vindicated by the end of the season.
So here we go again another season about Kim. I’m over that and don’t care for her on the show. I’m sure ratings will be high and bravo will think it was because of her. Bravo if you are reading this, its not Kim we are tuned in for…its for the queen Erika
Not a coincidence they sat Kim directly across from Lisa at the table. Kim is desperately wanting air time to start drama and get back on full time otherwise Kyle wouldn’t have put them sitting so close.
production does the seating arrangements.
I’m sorry I probably should’ve worded it different. When I said “they” I meant as in production then finished by saying Kyle wouldn’t have had them sitting so close Lol she didn’t even want Rinna being the first one there.
Hell, you don’t have to have an addiction to know that Kim has a shit load of baggage that eventually will bogged her down to the point of no return. By the way, it finally dawn on me where I have seen the head of Erika’s glam squad before. Scot was part of Gretchen’s (RHOC) squad back in the day.
No, I believe Mikey was a key element of the Pussy Cat Dolls group that worked in LV for many years- and has been on multiple shows over the years in that capacity. One of those was preparing Gretchen when she sang a song for the Pussy Cat Dolls, and flopped. Miserably. .
Sabina…. I will conceive your assement of the situation because I can only recall dude doing Gretchen’s hair and makeup. Thanks for the correction.
Didn’t Mikey also do Nia’s video and performance in Australia? Think so.
Nia from Dance Moms.
My opinion of Kim is, she won’t ever fully recover, but will bump along until one day she wont bounce back again. I hope I’m wrong, but I think she just has too many personality issues, that prevent her from being able to be an honest person. I’ve noticed the people who do get well, are able to be honest with others and themselves at some point in time. They have the ability to be happy in their own company, without constant companionship and codependent type behaviour at some point in time. I dont see Kim anywhere near that or being capeable of it. Underneath, is a very angry person who feels very entitled to that anger no matter how many people she hurts, it allways comes full circle back to that anger.
Over Dorit and her over pronunciation of the letter T.
If $120m is totally pocket change, I WILL be accepting that offer to luncheon thankyouverymuch. I’ll be your LaLa, NAA.
Sidenote: I’m pretty sure you could currently rent ACTUAL Greece for 50k right now…
How about I just let you live on my new Malibu compound instead? Do you have any skills that would be beneficial to me? Like can you kill bugs? Fix things that break? Or at least over see the staff? I plan to just expose all my big fat while laying around the pool swilling beer and eating fancy cheeses.
That could be a perfectly acceptable compromise. I’m quite competent at overseeing staff. I’m also really good at pairing wine with fancy cheeses so when we’re feeling fancy that could come in handy.
Who will provide the private jet for holidaying purposes? Am I gonna have to pimp myself out? I don’t mind doing that either. Faye Resnick ain’t got nothing on my moral corruption. #MorallyBankruptMark
Also just noticed – 50k but no champagne flutes?
Everytime I see Eileen, I think about her as Susan on Days of Our Lives saying , “Stefano Dimera is a mean, mean man.” If you can find the clip watch it. Her multiple characters run on Days made my childhood.
Truth be told…Vanderpump is a straight up coward. Hiding behind her idiots and ass of a hole husband to do her battles in the trenches. Why? Because like Bethenny she has so much to lose. But the diff is Bethenny will get grimmy and dirty to a certain degree. It’s all about their brand. Fuck it! God bless America give all the money to me.
Yes, she is all about using proxies to fight her wars. She throws stones but hides her hands,
Seeming petty, I have been bothered since the beginning of this season by the way they say their taglines. The first 3 or 4 are too “acting” sounding (hope maybe someone knows what I mean) 🙂
Also, I noticed Rinna does not seem to be as generic in her conversations.
She seems to be speaking unnaturally in what she’s saying. Like too much thought into her words, or I.e., a script.
Been an issue I’ve had, but gave it a while to be sure. I’m sure.
I finally figured out what Doritos accent reminds me of….the Alaskan bush people children.
Bwahahahaha! Not that I watch that show, but that’s hilarious. She’s one of those woman who can prattle on and on and not actually say a damn thing.
I think I could write this script:
1- include alcoholic link to Kim: Eden
2- add Eden as friend of rinna (hair link)
3- rinna fight with Kim, Eden defends rinna
4-Eden and rinna discuss Kim and Kyle (terrible conversation but so terrible it distracts from the whole point that Eden & rinna are pawns)
5- rinna defends Kyle, sets up lunch for Eden
6- Kyle wears mothers Huge, slap you in the face diamond ring that has to be mentioned and discuss mother
7-Eden asks about mothers alcoholism (which I believe is already out there)
8- Kyle shock face
9- conversation started. Out there. In comes Kyle’s series most likely discussing this whole thing
10- Kyle takes crown as Bobby fischer
Bravo?
I’m sorry, but I don’t care for Eden. She’s too much too fast. She’s lucky Kyle was the one at lunch with her and Rinna because any of the other women probably wouldn’t have been as polite.
Also Rinna needs to move on from Kim. We get it..you don’t like each other, but season after season of the same fight is getting ridiculous. Kim is in a bad place..some battles just aren’t worth it. Rinna is not going to gain anything by continuing down this path with Kim.
I like Lisa Rinna but still contemplate what made her react so strongly to taunts about Harry Hamlin. I believe she was worried about his alleged affair with January Jones while filming Mad Men & her pregnancy not to long after. Allegedly.
Oh, I thought it was because he wasn’t sure about her doing the show in the first place, and that she’d be devastated if her being on the show did damage to his rep or career in any way. This is the first I’ve heard of rumors about J. Jones.
I can relate to Rinna’s reaction about Harry. I also have a VERY hot husband that I love very much and would kill a bitch if she acted like Kim did towards Harry Hamlin insinuating nonsense. I just don’t refer to my husband by his first and last name.
I enjoyed this episode but I would have preferred the entire episode be about Kyle and Ericka in Mykonos because they are fun to watch.
Dorit’s attempt to smooth things over with Eileen and Rinna was nice but I still don’t buy her story that LVP never told her anything about the other women and I hope Dorit follows her own mind and develop her own opinion but I won’t hold my breath. As for LVP, this is the first episode this season that I’ve liked her again. I hope she’s past the bitter snark of the early episodes because she’s her best when she light and playful. I also enjoy scenes with just her and Kyle together or LVP with her family because she seems to be most authentic in those settings.
I’m already tired of Rinna and don’t have the strength to dive into Eden. Seriously, if Eden is dying to be a psychiatrist, she needs to go obtain a license and solicit patients who care to hear her 2 cents.
My issue with Rinna is the same issue I had with Brandy when she was on the show. Their “truth” ALWAYS involves someone’s business and never their own. Rinna said in her talking head she’s always right, well I think those words will come back to haunt her. It’ll be interesting to see how she handles the Xanax topic which I’m guessing will be an issue later this season and will hopefully be discussed as deeply as she loves to discuss Kim’s sobriety. Kim definitely has an issue with accepting accountability for her actions but Rinna showed that she has the same issue last season when she tried to blame everyone and their dog for her Munchhausen babbling.
Does anyone know which of the cast members is going to be “exposed” as a Xanax abuser? I caught the smoothies and Xanax comment on the preview for next week and I saw Rinna, but who else was agreeing with her? Dorit? Eden? I googled it -and discovered nothing.