This show taped at 1 am but the title is The Aftermath Part II and I am not recalling seeing a part one. So I am confused but will recap this episode regardless. This show was filmed before the season aired.
Sheri and Ashley are the first two out. They talk about Sheri figuring out that Ashley was part of the program right away. Nothing got past Sheri in that pod. She’s got some serious skills. I hate how they show so much show footage. Are they ever going to let these people talk? Sheri says since the program she thinks that rather than go back to being a CO she wants to pursue other opportunities where she can work as a consultant to help make changes to the system. Ashleigh talks about how being in prison helped her to understand why her mother gave her up for adoption and strengthen her sobriety. Monalisa says the program helped her to stop judging her daughter and made their relationship a lot better. She also says that her marriage ended, saying that it was a long time coming. Having an incarcerated child was very hard on her marriage. Sheri says that all of the women had a hard time returning to their marriage and finding their place in the family again. It was not an easy reentry to their normal life for any of them. That surprises me. If they were only in for sixty days, imagine people who do much longer sentences.
Quintin comes out and says that he wishes he would have gone by another name. The two officers seemed pissy about this comment. There is some definite tension there. I wonder what that is all about. He must have said some things they didn’t like in his debriefing that we didn’t get to see. Sheriff Noel said that they used their real names so that they would not forget to respond if someone called their undercover name. Captain Maples said that Quintin signed up for a reality show and he knew what he was getting into and the risk involved. Quintin nods with the look of someone who is not at all interested in what these two are saying to him. I hope we get to the bottom of this, but I am not sure that we will.
Ryan joined the program to learn more about the jail system because he wanted to be a police detective. As a result of the program he has decided he no longer wants to be a police officer at all. Ryan would have issues enforcing some of the laws that result in lengthy sentences for minor offenses. Captain Maples says that some of the stories Ryan heard in jail such as long sentences for small amounts of pot were made up by the inmates. Sheriff Noel is pissy about Ryan’s commissary business. He they were told not to participate in trades because it could put him in danger. I’m thinking the whole shoving all the inmates into the rec room pissed off as hell and not giving them any water was a lot more dangerous. I do not understand why the Captain and the Sheriff are so disparaging about Ryan’s time in the program. They act like he gave them no insight at all into the issues at the jail.
Dion was shocked to see the footage of all the unwanted sexual advances toward Brian. Ryan, who was in the pod with Brian when all of this was going on says that the taunting of Brian was “just recreation” and “we were bored.” Sheriff Noel is steaming over this comment. He says that some of the people involved caught criminal charges from that behavior and it is unfortunate that someone undercover would assimilate and start acting like an inmate. Every time they say this it pissed me off. That was exactly what they were supposed to do. That was the whole point of being undercover is to assimilate and act like an inmate. Ryan points out the same thing, saying he was in there to do a job and he didn’t just want to pass, he wanted to ace the challenge he was given and he feels like he did that. I do too. I have not comprehension of the animosity from the officers.
Chris who tapped out before even being assigned a pod seems embarrassed by the vomiting montage. Chris says watching the footage brings his anxiety back. He feels like he let the program down. He says the program brought him much closer to his incarcerated brother.
Next we talk about Zac and Ashley’s relationship. Zac says that he did his best to support and encourage her as much as possible. Ashleigh sighs and wiggles in her seat. Ashleigh says that she didn’t feel supported and that there were many times he told her just to suck it up. Ashleigh says that when she had no one and nothing in there he was cold to her. He says that was not his intention.
They play the clip of Zac calling her a fucking cunt and of her conversations with Sheri about her concerns about her marriage. Zac has this weird smile on his face while this is going on. Zac response was that he was unaware that she was having such serious doubts about the marriage. Zac seems unaware of a lot of things. Like that this would be a good time to show some sort of remorse and embarrassment over calling his wife a fucking cunt on national TV.
He says their relationship has been rocky from the start. She says over the past seven years there has been so much stuff swept under the rug that they haven’t dealt with. She previously said she has trust issues based on some of those things. It seems that she is hinting that Zac had cheated in the past. She has underlying resentment over that. She tells the host that her inability to answer Sheri’s question, “Is he the one?” wasn’t so much about whether he is the one for her, but rather if she is the one for him. This guy has totally crushed her self-esteem and it is sad to watch.
Ashleigh says the reason Sheri seemed to be suggesting she leave Zac was because Sheri was only hearing her side of things. She says she was jealous that the was in Vegas and New York. They play a clip of Zac talking about his luxurious bed in Las Vegas. I don’t think she was jealous that he was in a nice room, I think she was hurt that he didn’t have the decency to rub it in her face while she was incarcerated and having a rough time. Zac says that he was in Vegas applying for a job with the police force and Ashley thought he was there going to the casinos and getting with strippers. That is a telling line right there. Why would he assume she was concerned about him hooking up with strippers? On what planet does it take four days to apply for a job?
Zac says that Ashleigh rides on an emotional roller coaster and has for the majority of their relationship. This guy is such an ass. The host says it sounds like he is constantly pointing the finger at Ashleigh and asks if he has “as many or more things to change to make the relationship work.” He says that most of the issues in their relationship belong to Ashleigh. The host asks Ashleigh if she agrees with what Zac is saying about her needing to work on herself, but that he is fine. Ashleigh becomes very uncomfortable and seems not to want to answer the question. She says she’s not sure how to answer that. Zac says to just be honest. She says that she doesn’t think anyone is perfect and everyone has things they could work on.
Dan Abrams asks why Ashleigh could not receive all of the support he felt he gave her in prison. They show more clips of him treating her like shit on the phone. He crafts a new version of history. He says he was trying to get her to be mad at him so she would distance herself from him and not have such a desire to come back home to him. With each explanation, this dude looks worse and worse. Ashley eyes narrow and her face looks a bit confused by this newest fabrication. Ashley points out that this makes no sense. She had to call him to find out how the kid was. So Zac again changes his story. Now he says when she needs comfort at home he holds her and tells her it is going to be okay. He didn’t know what to say on the phone and he couldn’t hug her. Nope, this excuse doesn’t fly either.
Ashleigh says it was really hard going from jail with no daily responsibilities to being thrown right back into a marriage and motherhood. It felt overwhelming. Ashleigh managed to get knocked up as soon as she got out of prison. They had another son, just a day or two ago.
Finally, they have all of the participants in the room together to talk about The Great Shit Storm of 2016. But first we finally get another moment with Quintin. I feel like Quintin and Dion have had no air time on this episode. Quintin says that he never saw the guard raising up the inmate, they were constantly pushing them down. Sheriff Noel says that during the debriefing several guards who did well were mentioned over and over so it was nice to give them recognition.
Quintin says that the show of force by the guards really made a bad situation a lot worse. Monalisa disagrees with Quintin. She says there were only four guards there for all of those inmates. Really? That right there should be illegal. There needs to be some sort of mandate on ration of guards to prisoners. And when the sewage issued happened they should have called in every guard they had! That is not safe for the inmates or the guards. They have no idea how lucky they are that things went as well as they did.
We end with the changes that have been implemented. First they bought a body scanner to be able to see if drugs are hidden in a body cavity when people enter the jail. Some guards were disciplined. They were able to upgrade their camera system. The new camerae have helped them discover who is cheeking their meds and finding hidden cell phones. They classify the inmates differently and assign pods based on the new classification to avoid pod bosses controlling the pods.
Dion looks a lot bigger than he did in prison. Quintin says they are not the same people who went in to prison coming out. No one would encourage a significant other to do the program.
TT, have you seen the movie Dogs on the Inside? There are a lot of prison programs where the inmates house and train dogs on death row for adoption. The inmates and dogs give you the feels. I had to watch every youtube clip after all the depressing tv and news.
High paw from Nut to Banjo.
Ugh! Just lost my comment :(. I think something was off from beginning with it being part 2, and a lot I can’t figure out.. I think Zac is going to be knocked down a few notches after this season. I’m sure a lot of people have a very different idea about him now. Thanks TT for all the great posts and work this week. Have a great weekend. Xo
What a good program,Shay, On the news this evening there was a similar story.
Dogs are trained as service dogs to help veterans suffering with PTSD. The young man who was there had been in a psychiatric hospital and was on 15 or so meds. After 2 years with his Weimaraner, Steel, he’s back in the world. He’s taking only 2 meds and seems happy to be helping with the program.
Awww! Love it, Margarett! And Weimaraners have that cashmere grey coat. Omg. I die.
I was just reading how retired grey hounds are the best companions for disabled/bed-ridden folks, like me. They are super laze:)
My service dog, a 9lb chihuahua, saves my life– literally and figuratively. He’s been sick since February, but keeps making comebacks. I thought he was done working, but alerted me to my brain hemorrhage last week. The vet and my docs say he is holding on for me. We hold on for eachother!
How heartwarming, so glad you two have each other 💕
Poor Ashleigh…..she’s one of those girls who thinks having a kid will save the marriage….she’s wrong….she’s going to end up a single Mom with 2 kids and Zac leaving her for a stripper.
Did we really think he was hot season 1?!?!?
Crazy how he was more appealing as an inmate 🙂
Must’ve been my whole “Bad Boy” thing. I exclusively date losers.
LavidaLinda, don’t we all, don’t we all 🙂
Sorry I forgot to mention the recap. I am so disappointed in Zac. He sure fooled me! I hate to hear about a woman being so demoralized. I hope Ashleigh will use this experience to see herself as a strong person. I admit I don’t understand her having another baby with him.
I didnt see season 1, but found Ashleigh to be an emotional black hole. She’s always finding things to be upset about.
She was so lucky to have Sheri. Ashleigh had support and a 24/7 confidant. Sheri was physically intimidating, hilarious, smart, and got along with everyone. And Sheri had Ashleigh’s back.
I thought Ashleigh was negmo every time she picked up the phone. I get she missed her baby, but she left him by choice.
I’m sorry, but my husband is a recovering alcoholic, and I saw Zac’s behavior as very similar to my own. With a loved one in recovery, you walk a very fine line. When I see my husband start falling into “self-pity” mode, I have to fight back the urge to sympathize, and stand strong. — for his sake. If I gave him anything that he could somehow interpret as sympathy that might provide an excuse for him to use, he would!
May sound harsh, and yes, it is. But we broke up once because of my refusal to function as an “enabler”, and he was back to using in less than a week. We got back together, and he’s has been “clean and sober” now for over 20 years.
To me, Ashley was looking for sympathy from Zac to provide her with an excuse to use. My husband’s done it many times, and I immediately call him on it, and flat-out inform him it’s not going to work.
Zac just didn’t want to do it on camera, because there’s really no way he could do so without coming across as abusive–and she knew it too. Ashley put Zac in a “bad position”, and if my husband did that to me, I’d be pissed.
I think you are projecting your issues onto this couple. Zac is a dick who was only interested in media attention. He could not be bothered with the kid, or to take a ten minute phonecall from his wife. If anything was going to instigate a relapse in Ashley, it was Zac’s dickish behavior. But she didn’t relapse.
Very excellent recap TT. This was such an awesome season. I think all of the participants had a lot of valuable feedback and they all had useful info for the Sheriff. I didn’t pickup on the tension between Quentin and maples and Noel. Thanks for the insight on that. This reunion was really heavy on the females’ experience. That’s ok because it was entertaining, however there are more male inmates in that jail and more important lessons to learn
I was really annoyed how the Sheriff and Maples seem to think Zach is so amazing for the way he became a prisoner, but when Ryan does the same thing they get testy. I’ve been in love with Dan Abrams since the OJ trial and he did not let me down getting up in Zach’s face. LOL. Shari killed it, she was totally amazing.
Mona seemed very flirty and smitten with Quentin. Very cute.
Mona seemed very flirty and smitten with Quentin. Very cute.
Omgosh, I thought the same thing! Thinking hmmm, see mentioned she and her husband are no together so ???? Totally noticed!!
Seems to me that Ashleigh is possibly abused emotionally and maybe physically too. Just the way she was acting and him waiting for the answers to the negative questions about him. Especially the ones toward the end that Dan was asking her.
I hope Ashleigh uses the money she makes from the show to get herself the hell out of there and make a life for her and her 2 kids.
Maybe Sheri will keep in touch with Ashleigh, hopefully.
I sensed that too with his “tell the truth” line. Pretty sure he meant the exact opposite.
I was thinking the same thing…she should take her money and get herself and her kids a place…then she’ll know if he really wants her.
I think it was called Part 2 because season one had Part 1. Zach did seem to be blaming Ashleigh for everything and I hope they get some counseling out of this. Ryan still pisses me off thinking he’s better than everyone.
What seemed so great about Zach in season one – his complete control and unflappability – now appears that he either lacks sensitivity or he compartmentalizes his emotions. Ashleigh just needed someone to ask about her safety, her sanity and support her emotionally. He seems incapable of that. This calls for a Whoopi warning, ‘girl, you in danger’.
If I remember correctly in Season 1 Ashleigh was supportive and sounded very loving during his phone calls home. Why was it so hard so hard for him to do the same?
I wish I could figure out the tension between participants and sheriff,and captain and vice versa. I sure wish they could have done a third season. I can’t come up with a reason to explain all the weirdness between everyone.
Maybe I can watch again and notice something I missed. Just my thoughts. 🙂
I’m with you all, I don’t understand the tension either. The interaction between capt/sheriff and the inmates has always seemed disjointed. Like when they’re having their exit interviews and they’re just getting into something juicy, they shake hands and it’s over! Bam, just like that! I wonder if it has to do with them naming employees or giving insider secrets that can’t be mentioned? It makes it hard for us to watch in that regard, I think.
I don’t even know where to begin with Zach and Ashleigh. I can’t believe they got knocked up immediately after filming. That girl should have been on three different kinds of birth control in her mental state. I wish the best for them and their children, but I’m also 99.9% sure they’ll be going through an ugly divorce in less than a year.
I absolutely love Ryan and am still questioning wtf he did to make them so mad. The observation of him getting “too inmatey” is total bullshit. Something had to happen that we didn’t see or at least I don’t understand.
So sad this show is over. Hopefully they already have another season in a different jail in the works. At least if they’re smart they would 🙂
The sheriffs are pissed at Ryan because he’s smarter than they are and their egos can’t handle it…even though Ryan can be a bit annoying at times, he’s a nice person, he did well in there.
Tamara, I really enjoyed your recap of this episode. I really like the show and I’m sad that it is over. Perhaps they will do a season three at another jail or prison facility. Was I the only person who was shocked to hear that Ashleigh was pregnant? To me this was so shocking given what they had just been through. I really hope that Zac has a job. If not, I can’t imagine the stress they must be under. I like Ashleigh and wish her the best.
Among the 37 other things that Zach did/said that upset me, when he said something about Ashleigh having more issues about their relationship or bringing to their relationship, it just made me realize how immature he really is. Marriage isn’t about keeping score, if someone in the relationship is struggling then it’s the other persons job to help them work it out, be it with their own actions, counseling etc…not just dropping “well, that’s your shit to work through.” No no no, it should be “this is OUR problem, how can I help you?” Stupid Zach.
The last I heard, they were scouting for a new location for season 3. It’s been a while since I checked on that but they are probably filming something now. The jail gets a lot of money/ free stuff for participating so I imagine there were several willing sites. I could be wrong.
Omgosh!! Fingers crossed 🙂
Thanks TT
I wanted to re-watch one of the Season 2 shows to see which officers were involved in the sham of a shakedown for the women’s Pod. You know, the ones who said, “get dressed, we’re coming back for a shakedown” as opposed to the surprise SWAT-like team that surprised the male inmates.
Anyway, when I did a search for it On Demand, it showed 3 Seasons to choose from, even though there weren’t any episodes yet in the 3rd season. So, it looks like there’s been a 3rd season ordered.
I haven’t watched this yet, but don’t think I can. I was Ashley (who I think has deleted social media?! FURTHER isolation – perfect!) a few years ago. I recognise the hostage like speak ‘yes…. I am being treated well – no I don’t wish to return. All hail the great Zac’. I tweeted how hot Xac was and Captain Scottie and Sheriff Jamey both liked it. That’s how adorable he was. What a study into psychology this guy has been.
I think the irritation that the sheriff and Captain had toward Ryan is because they are still upset he wouldn’t tell them everything about what was going on in the interview he did before they moved him to another pod, which they totally did just to show him who was boss. I completely respect the police but those two are mad at Ryan for no reason really. And Quinton I think has ptsd from his experience. Zac and Ashleigh are not going to be married much longer than another year or two is my guess. She seems so beaten down by him mentally it’s really sad to watch. Love Dion ! Love Sheri ! Monalisa & Quinton need to go on a date ♡
I feel bad for Sheri’s husband. She has no respect for him. I hope he is reading her Twitter. Sheri won’t let Monalisa get what she wants for herself.
Hi Tamara!
I didn’t really know where to ask this so I dredged up an old 60 Days In blog…will you be recapping the new 60 Day In? Gosh, I hope so, I rarely even watch the shows anymore, more fun to read the blogs. you keep me snickering. Thanks!!
The seven month update last Thursday night was really good. Worth a watch. Can not wait for this season. Looks like it is more intense, and kinda different vibe. In a scary way.
Yep! I am on it I have the finale of Top Chef to do first on Thursday and then I’ll be on to 60 Days. I can’t believe they are doing it in the Fulton County Jail. That place is scary as FUCK! I can’t wait for Thursday!