Due to all sort of technical issues RHOA took two hours to recap tonight so I am going to make this short and sweet if at all possible. I can’t believe these idiots have anything new to argue about. Andy starts off saying this season they brought in two new housewives, brought a veteran back and welcomed a housewife home from federal prison. He actually said federal prison! I am amazed. Dolores got fat relocation surgery to make her butt bigger. Because people are just that insane. If you had said in 1989 that people would be injecting and inserting all sort of thing to make their butt bigger in 2016, I would never have believed you. It’s batshit crazy.
Joe is getting his G.E.D. in prison and wants to got to college when he gets home from, um, college. Andy reminisces about the last reunion when he didn’t think Teresa would be back. Teresa says she is glad they waited for her, and that she is glad to be back but there are certain people on the show that make it ugly. This is the introductions, y’all. Teresa starts right in with the jabs saying to Jac she is surprised she showed up. Jac jabs back with, “Why I like confrontation, you were the coward that wouldn’t face me.”
The first question is from a view who wants to know why Jac, Siggy and Dolores (Right Couch) get along so well. Jac is making some positive statement and Teresa interrupts when Jac mentions “constructive criticism.” Until Teresa can pronounce constructive criticism, she should probably stay quiet. Teresa calls Right Couch “Jac’s soldiers.”
Teresa’s hairline is more apelike than ever. It’s time for the main event already?! Teresa versus Jacqueline. I have a feeling this is the entire two hours. RHONJ have the worst fake eyelashes. Teresa is still outraged that Jac said she committed fraud. Even though she was charged with 41 counts of felony charges related to fraud. Teresa is angry that Jac called her out for getting a Lexxus right out of prison. Even Andy asks her if she doesn’t think that since she owes all this money she could have gotten a Ford or something reasonable. Teresa says, “Would you drive a Ford?” Teresa thinks she is at the same financial level as Andy now? They are not peers in any way. Andy says “Sure, if I owed a lot of money.” Teresa says leasing a Lexus is not that much money.
Teresa says that she wants Danielle to come back to face-off with Jac. So that is her plan. I knew there had to be one. Damn she is afraid of Jac. Danielle posted a question on Andy’s Facebook for the show. “Now that Teresa worries about her own children finding out about what she’s done, how on earth does she not seek making things right with my children and the things she’s done to me?” Andy seems to be intentionally trying to get Teresa wound up. Andy has to explain what she did to her children. One of Danielle’s kids wrote about her life while being on the show. It was heartbreaking. Andy says that Teresa called Danielle a prostitution whore in front of her kids. Teresa shrugs and says “Oh, well. I’m sorry. My kids were there too.”
*Musical Interlude while Andy talks to Siggy and Dolores. No shade, I’m just exhausted.*
Jac talks about her new grandson. He is a really photogenic baby and mom and grandmom post a million photos of him every day. Someone asks if Pete proposed because she was pregnant. She says no, she didn’t know she thought she had a cyst and was having a lot of bleeding she found out when she went to the doctor for that. Teresa has a huge stank face through this entire conversation. Teresa starts a side conversation with Melissa, offended that Ashlee is a mother who is tweeting derogatory things about the two of them on Twitter. Um, Teresa, when you are charged with 41 felonies for fraudulent activity, you lose the right to criticize anyone else’s parenting. And you do look like an ape. Jac says Gia was tweeting her nasty things too. While Jac and Melissa are going back and forth and Andy is trying to get Teresa to say what Gia tweeted, Teresa stands up and starts twirling around asking if she looks like an ape. I can hear the whole sitting of Atlanta saying “yes” in unison.
Siggy defends Milania’s behavior.
More boring stuff…
We have had numerous lengthy montages. This one was of Teresa’s homecoming and Joe’s prison going. They talk about Teresa dancing with her brother. It was her sweet 16 and he was fourteen with a mustache. He says he had a mustache in the second grade. Andy asks when he lost his virginity. Teresa says she knows because she walked in on it. Joe says he became a man at nine years old. That is very disturbing to hear especially because it is a huge red flag for childhood sexual abuse. Teresa says she held that over his head their entire childhood threatening to reveal it to their parents if he didn’t do what she wanted. I don’t see the humor in this. At all.
For some reason we are revisiting the sprinkle cookie incident between Teresa and Melissa. Teresa is now denying that she threw away the sprinkle cookies and rewriting a brand new history.
After a break we return to Teresa accusing Jac of being a stripper. In Jersey all the women are accused of stripping. In Atlanta all the men are accused of being gay. And well, they are right at least half the time. I feel like we have been down this road before when Caroline was on. This is a big reach for something to talk about.
And Jac and Melissa were super close back then. Then we move to #StripperGate 2011, when everyone was talking about Melissa being a stripper. Teresa thinks Jac set that whole fiasco up. Teresa accuses Jac of selling tabloid stories about her federal crimes. Um, Teresa was the one sell all the stories she could back then. Somehow in the middle of this Teresa starts ranting about Jac saying her husband cheated on her with the secretary and the babysitter and others. Joe steps in to say that growing up anytime a guy cheated on Teresa she dumped him. Andy says she didn’t have kids with that guy. Teresa starts screeching at Andy about how she would move on the the hottest guy she could find. Then she says Jac’s husband tweeted on her. I just can’t with this. I have a headache and a small fever and Teresa’s defensive screeching is not helping.
And then out of nowhere Teresa comes out with “You and Caroline set up to go to prison!” Andy asks for clarification about whether Teresa is actually accusing Jac (and possibly Caroline) of calling the feds on her so that she would go to prison. Because it could not have been all the lies she told in bankruptcy court. She says yes, that is what she is saying and she is glad she got that off her chest. Andy and everyone else is shocked by her stupidity. Then Jac says to Teresa, “No wonder you’re so angry at me.” That is exactly what I was thinking.
Next week Teresa and Melissa scream at Jac a lot and then hold hands. Sorry this is not so great tonight. I’ve got some sort of change of season sickness or something.
Is Jac wearing the Jessica McClintock Collection circa 1991?
You went there, lol! Yes, she did!
Funny because I used Jessica Mclintock dresses, in emerald green, for my bridesmaid dresses, circa 1995. We are divorced.
Lo: I LOVE looking at a photo and knowing exactly what year it is by the dress, hair and makeup!
What’s confusing is that Jac is the Encino Man of RHONJ.
Oh! Me too! Mine were blue. I’m newly separated-on the way to divorce. It’s the dresses!! Those damn ugly dresses. Lol.
Theresa is a stupid bitch. No other words can explain her stupidity.
Two things:
1) Wait, Juicy Joe has neither a high school diploma, nor a G.E.D.? That explains a lot.
2) When I first saw the above photo of Siggy and Delores, mouths agape, I legit thought that was Kenya Moore on the right. Lordy.
Yes, she goes a bit heavy on the spray tan
Erikzu, I was literally going to write same comment verbatum regarding Juicy Joe just now getting GED! I reiterated it in my comment further down. Would love to know education levels of all of them. Explains so much!
First, I hope you feel better. Second, thank you because I forgot it was on. I’ve been in a cave in my bedroom all weekend watching Hallmark Christmas movies. It is 91 degrees here in my part of Florida, so TRYING to get in the mood.That is EXTREMELY disturbing about Joe! I have a 9 year old daughter, so that makes me sick to my stomach. As if Bravo doesn’t have enough inappropriate actions involving minors.
We’re supposed to get a cold front and maybe the temps will be low 80’s. Gotta find my sweaters 🙂
And yes, Tamara is a saint for watching those ignorant, ugly ass women. Hard to believe anyone could be that stupid.
I mean the Jersey housewives are ugly. Not Tamara….she’s just a bit of a masochist 🙂
At what age did joe guidice drop out of high school? What was the last grade he attended I wonder and how did he get a job or earn a living? Something about his past just doesn’t make sense.
Family ties go a long way in getting folks employed, but there are a lot of people his age and older without high school diplomas. Those people dropped out and just started working.
I agree but under the table. no SSN? Did not file a tax return?
In Teresa’s mind, she has never done anything wrong. Now she claims that she did not throw away the sprinkle cookies. I bet Jac is the one who did that, too.
West Coast,
It’s not just in Teresa’s mind. Remember this from October 2014:
She says the judge should not be influenced by her role in “RHONJ” because “The image is little more than a carefully crafted fiction, engineered by Bravo TV through scripted lines and clever editing.”
What else is a lawyer supposed to say?
Dex, Teresa said that to the judge.
Tre said those words? I didn’t think knew those words. There were a couple little blips last night that made Tre look not so stupid. It was strange but right in the beginning she said a couple of things and I got the feeling she had stepped out of character for a split second, realized it, and jumped right back into her stupid Tre façade. I can’t really explain it, but I watched the beginning twice just to make sure and there’s something going on with Tre that is not good. Maybe someone just fed the squirrel on the wheel that feeds Tre brains. I am not, however, one of those who believes that Tre has even an average IQ.
Agree, I also watched Tre uncertain of what I was seeing. A professional could diagnose, explain Teresa, guessing she is not that complicated.
I recall literally seeing her do it on the episode! How on earth could she have denied that?
It was before RHONJ was even a thing. It wasn’t filmed.
Siggy grates on my nerves with her made up relationshi advice. She has no degree in this field and no clinical training. She is also involved in the group and not in any way objective. Taking her advice and considering her an expert is not wise. I’m disgusted at her bravado.
Did anyone else think Melissa was being snotty when she’d shout over to Siggy, “You’re the relationship expert, what do YOU think?” I couldn’t really tell.
I really can’t stand that one. Obnoxious know it all.
Teresa learned nothing from going to prison and her sick sense of entitlement is just gross and disgusting. I think everyone watching wondered why she would would get a Lexus as opposed to something more economical right after being released and she asks Andy “would you drive a Ford”, really? To further show how diluted she is she blames her whole fraud debacle on Jacqueline and Caroline claiming they set her up! Seriously, this woman is out of her damn mind and living in an alternate universe. Melissa is trying to rally because Joe is in prison and she feels it’s the right thing to do but it’s just a matter of time before Teresa screws her over…again.
It really cracked me up when she said that to Andy, as if she were born to the manor. Jesus, get over yourself girl. She was just released from prison, separated from her family for a year and she still thinks she’s entitled to the best because she paid her restitution. But she’s, “changed”
Namaste my ass. There’s no reasoning with people like Teresa.
This has the feel of the last reunion of Miami #pleasecancel. Teresa is insane. Like literally insane. Joe, that’s not losing your virginity, that’s child sexual abuse. Proud of Jacqueline so far. Dolores please bitch slap Teresa, Siggy please STFU. Hope you’re feeling better TT!
Lisa j, I’m with you! #Pleasecancel
Teresa is so delusional and such a moron, wow. Jacqueline is a sociopath. Did you see that gleeful smile when her sprinkle cookie comment caused Teresa & Melissa to start going back and forth about it? She was angry in Vermont because they were getting along. I wouldn’t want either of them as a friend or relative. That’s why they hate each other so much, they’re two peas in a pod.
RHWNJ reunion is the only complete NJ show I watched this year, still watching.
Teresa is, IDK, seriously something wrong with her brain. She speaks and thinks from an emotionally immature place. As adult women the others struggle to respond to her juvenile comments.
Teresa is still attacking from a middle school perspective.
Teresa is back to stripper gate, no.
I see a woman who believes the lies she is saying, that is scary.
To bad Melissa has fallen in with Teresa’s thinking. Her comment about Jac not showing up for the reunion show 4? years ago took serious looking,. Biggest mistake people make about others is assuming others act and behave like they would.
Guess it makes Melissa’s life easier.
I don’t think Jac was Teresa’s enemy until she was treated badly this season. Teresa is sick and evil plus having a few social disorders.
Terasa to me, is really showing her sickness on the reunion.
Anyone else see it?
Teresa’s sickness has been showing for quite some time now. Like, since season 1.
The fact that Teresa is still trying to figure out who tipped off the feds means that she; a) refuses to own up to her fraud being both basic and poorly executed (i.e. she thought she was a criminal mastermind that would NEVER get caught) and, b) she’s deeply embarrassed about going to prison and she thinks that finding the “rat” will somehow whitewash her criminal activities.
Stupid bitch, indeed.
Melissa isn’t too smart either. Teresa is just waiting for the right time to fuck her over.
Jac is crazy. Yes. But out of this bunch she’s the only one trying to think clearly. I know that’s not saying much, but still.
She grew up believing that it’s the person that, “rats” that is one in the wrong-not the person who actually commits the crime. It’s a strange type of mentality.
(Fwiw, I don’t believe for a second Jaq, called the Feds)
This type of thinking seems so bizarre to people who have been taught that they must be held accountable for their behavior. She’s now blamed her attorney’s, Melissa, Joe, Jaq, Caroline and even her own husband. Everyone is accountable except for poor Teresa. I’m amazed by how many people buy the story that it’s all her husband’s fault and poor Tre was kept in the dark.
Exactly. If anyone told on her it would be the person she least suspected. Not any of the women on this show. They all have some shady shit going on financially. Most notably Melissa and Jac and perhaps even Caroline. By tipping off the feds they would have run the risk of drawing attention to themselves.
Somebody who would have cooperated with investigators and would have to have had enough information about Teresa and Joe’s situation (close to them), and be angry enough to do that (maybe screwed over by them somehow), while being clean themselves, or having it be some part of some kind of plea deal. Maybe even someone on Joe’s side of the family. Or Dina! I don’t trust her either. Why did she leave the show again? And I don’t believe she was friends with Teresa just to get Caroline’s goat. A likely story.
I think Melissa is aware… but wants to have a decent relationship with T because of her husband and all the kids. I also think she is genuinely pissed at Jaq, and rightfully so. I would be pissed at someone bringing up painful but OLD shit that I’d put to bed with a relative and had literally moved on from.
And as Jaq DOES still have a relationship with Kim D, I’d be suspicious of her too.
It’s certainly their business how they handle their relationship but it hasn’t felt as if old issues were, “put to bed”. It seems more like Teresa has glossed over and minimized them and Melissa has sucked it up. The moment she goes out of lock-step than good-bye Melissa.
There’s something really calculating about Melissa. I’m sure backed down for her husband’s sake but I also think she did it because she needs this relationship with Teresa-it benefits her financially.
@Erica. Completely agree. I guess Jac’s intention to heal the Gorga family through the years was a lie. Jac obviously hates Tre and Melissa being friends. I’m no Tre fan, but last night she was going to spill on Jac and has had it with her snark comments. For years Jac has said some horrid things about Tre and her family (Gabriella not being Joe’s daughter for one). Tre has never discussed Jac’s financial situation or Nicholas’ autism on the show. Jac is one of those vile people who comes off so kind and sweet and when she gets your trust she turns around and uses it against you if you disagree with her. Jac and Chris says it because she cares and is hurt – BS.
Anybody else notice Andy refer to himself as “Daddy”. Gross!
Didn’t Jacko have surgery on her fat weird neck. Her neck looked really weird. Caroline set up Danielle and her little puppet Jacko turned on her friend Danielle when ordered by Caroline. Someone did notify the Feds to look into the Gorgas. It was reported that the motivator on that point was the lawyer who represented juicy joes business partner. Wasn’t Jim marchese periphilaly involved? No problem believing Caroline got herself involved
I’m not saying that they were not 100% guilty. But if I am a tax cheat and not yet caught, even though it is only a matter of time that I am caught, and you tip off the IRS to take a look at me, don’t be surprised if I am upset with you.
Not to start an argument but frankly, than that’s on you. It’s another way of diverting and not taking full ownership; looking to blame external sources when it’s totally the responsibility of the person who broke the law.
THEIR ATTEMPT TO FILE A FRAUDULENT BANKRUPTCY IS WHAT TIPPED OFF THE FEDS. WHEN YOU FILE A BANKRUPTCY, THE FEDS GET INVOLVED WHEN YOU HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING TAXES ON THE FRAUDULENT INCOME YOU CLAIMED. NO ONE CALLED SOME SORT OF FEDS HOTLINE. THEY TOLD ON THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY ARE UTTER MORONS.
Not exactly certain what you are saying- I’m slow – I do know if you tip the IRS off about someone and they know who you are, you will get looked at. Fact in most cases.
TT wrote about this. Joe and Teresa lied on their bankruptcy papers and did not file taxes for 10 years. That’s how they got caught. No one else but themselves.
Joe said back when this was all started with the tax people that they wanted him to roll on the people he knows. He was very proud that he would not Rat on them and that was why the fed came down so hard on him. All of the bravo reality show people have been looked at. Those that had big issues got caught. Others just got fines. In Tre’s mind, those that got fines pointed fingers at her. She doesn’t realize she needs to take responsibility for her actions if she is to become a Phoenix rather than a reality show footnote. IMHO
I’m just not getting it. Is there some 1-800-FOR-FEDS number that I’m unaware of? I’m sure you can turn in tax cheats to the IRS but does anyone really do that and, if they do, does anything really come of it? And, even if there is some way to turn the Feds on the Giudices, if they had not committed crimes, it would not have mattered.
Sometimes, they give you a percentage for reporting tax cheats.
Dexterpie, Please read the commenting rules.
Caroline got pissed of at Theresa because her previous boys were involved in a bar fight that Caroline blames Theresa for starting. That ignited Caroline’s Danielle Staub like campaign against Theresa. Caroline ordered Jacko to give up Theresa like she did with Danielle. Jacko made the choice to obey Caroline and she opted to befriend Theresa’s enemy, Melissa. When Melissa and Theresa reconciled Jacko was out. Jacko also has a scorched earth policy and says things you can’t take back and that can’t be forgiven. She then childishly cries about it. She breaks her toy on purpose then cries the toy is mean because she cannot play with it anymore. Completely believe Jacko was a stripper and Vegas call girl.
Yes. Yes. And yes. This has been my theory for years. Perhaps Caroline and Jacqueline may have not called the Feds directly, but they certainly gave information to the right parties.
I guess you two have been drinking lots of the Guidice cool aid. They committed felanies and got themselves in trouble by filing fraudulent bankruptcies. This had nothing to do with the other women… except in Teresa’s imagination.
Lol I was thinking the same thing! How can anyone with EVERYTHING out in black and white, pleading GUILTY for god sake, think for one second that the only people who are guilty here are the Guidices??? Not worth revisionist historical blame shifting. And Teresa showed her sore point, apparently she was really offended with being compared to an ape. If the forehead fits….
At some point all these conspiracy theories become ridiculous. These things you’re talking about in particular also happened years ago. It seems kind of ridiculous. I swear I get dizzy reading some of these posts.
People spend more time trying to figure this stuff out than the Warren Commission. It’s a Reality TV show, peopled with a bunch of self-involved twits. People read way too much into it.
For what it’s worth, spreading gossip that Jaq was a prostitute is really pretty low. There’s plenty of material on her without tossing out that unsubstantiated nastiness.
Why are Jacqueline and her grown ass daughter even entertaining a twitter war with 15 year old Gia? That’s a red flag right there.
I know. Gia is 15 now. Time to stop dealing with immature bullies like Jacko and Ashlee. Let’s take ash and Jac to the basement and force her to read a book with mean old Caroline.
Based on what they showed on the telly, there was no, “War”. They all tweeted out stupid stuff. Re’ Gia, Teresa allowing her to tweet was incredibly inappropriate. She just started high school. Her mother just got out of prison, her father is currently residing there and will probably be deported. She should be studying or at a basketball game and not demanding respect for her ex-convict mother on twitter. Geez.
I keep thinking how with all that money they went through, they never set up college funds for those kids. Teresa has stated numerous times that she’ll have to START saving up for college for Gia.
Fwiw, I don’t understand the constant comments re’ Caroline. She hasn’t been on the show for years. She’s moved on. Respectfully, maybe it’s time to do the same?
I agree with everything you said Sliceo’pie, especially about Gia being allowed to get in a Twitter war. And I liked your point about the college funds. Teresa was too busy buying fancy clothes and cars and houses and throwing ridiculously over the top parties to show off, instead of thinking of her daughter’s futures. But then again, I don’t think she thought they would ever get caught.
I don’t even watch this show anymore. It’s very umm, low brow.
Echo Erikzu’s comment further up regarding the fact that Joe didn’t finish high school & is just now getting GED. Explains A LOT.
The orher Joe had sex at age NINE? There are way more secrets about these people that have yet to come out, IMO. I don’t care to know about them though. I cannot figure out how this show is still even on TV.
*other not orher. And the low brow comment was an intended pun.
Again, #Pleasecancel
They said it with such pride. They’re clearly proud he lost it at nine and that Teresa held it over his head for years. Lovely family.
I think Melissa was mortified.
Twitter shouldn’t call them “tweets”. It should be “twits”.
I agree, Tamara, that Joe Gorga losing his virginity at age 9 is troubling, from his side as well as that of the little girl. I believe that would qualify as sexual assault to most thinking people. While he and Teresa were concerned about Teresa telling their parents, I wonder what happened to that little girl? Teresa should have told their parents, as her brother was a sexual deviant.
As for the rest of it, Teresa remains as delusional as ever and has become utterly unwatchable.
Agree! We also don’t know if it was a little girl. It could have been an older girl. Too many red flags. Teresa should have helped rather than use as an abuse of power. But that brings up another disturbing point. If Teresa didn’t see it as something wrong, it could have happened to her w someone else in another occasion and she just doesn’t see it as wrong.
“Sexual deviant” are we in the fucking 1920s?
My mistake – what is the appropriate terminology for a sexually active 9-year old? Especially one who seems proud of it?
Rebecca, the appropriate term is victim of child abuse. Joe has said that his mustache at an early age allowed him to be with with all of the older girls in SECOND GRADE.
Nine year olds do not initiate sex unless they have been exposed to it by an adult, or another child who has been abused.
I really wish I had left that part out of the recap.
Fair enough, Tamara.
Childhood sexual abuse is serious and life altering. If Siggy actually had a degree in anything she would have spoken up and addressed this trauma. She knows nothing about relationships and needs to stop pretending she does.
TT, thanks for your recap! I just can’t with these women. I will, as usual, be faithfully reading your recaps. I’ll let you lose brain cells watching this mess.
Sadly Tre has not worked a day in her life and thinks that being a stripper where you get up everyday and show up on time and punch the clock in and out and get paid so you can keep a roof over your families head it a horrible thing. She uses it as the lowest insult, worse than being a felon who spent a year in federal prison. My sense is In her sad twisted mind she is a better example to her children than a stripper who isn’t a felon convicted of fraud.
Very true.
Word, beauxblue!!!
Andy said Dolores was a “kept woman.” She was a stay at home mother who lacked education and a skill set, and relied on her ex-husband for ongoing support. Apparently she didn’t demand a massive lump sum and agreed to monthly spousal support. But let’s be clear, that does not make her a “kept woman.” That phrase has a negative meaning. It’s an insult. Dolores wasn’t a prostitute or a mistress.
“Historically the term has denoted a “kept woman”, who was maintained in a comfortable (or even lavish) lifestyle by a wealthy man so that she will be available for his sexual pleasure.”
Agree with your sentiments. But if we go by Andy’s definition, every single housewife can fall into the “kept woman” category. It’s like he is their pimp, paying them all to act like assholes at the direction of himself and production. Meanwhile, he giggles all the way to the bank. In My Opinion. Lol!
Good point. Which is why he referred to himself as “Daddy.” WTH? Daddy?
I just can’t with him.
Kim Zolciak?
If anyone was a “kept woman” it was Kim.
Kim wasn’t married to Big Poppa. She didn’t have children with him. She wasn’t legally entitled to any of his money, his assets, ever. He already had a wife, and Kim was his mistress, his toy, and she gave him sex for Escalades, clothing, and furniture. THAT is a “kept woman.”
Putting Dolores in the same category as someone like that is ignorant and insulting. And IMO, it’s intentional. Andy Cohen is too smart to make “mistakes” like that. He’s passive aggressive. He constantly throws little jabs like this.
The question is: Why would he shade Dolores?
Melissa, I’m a little envious of the power of Kim’s smokey wigs. No one is buying me shit– let alone giving me a black Amex to entertain myself. I secretly dream of drowning in diamonds and yelling, “THANK YOU, BIG POPPAAAAA!!!” into the universe, like a yodeling ashtray.
Shay, so glad you are back! ?
Just Cant: Thank you! I’ve missed having fun exchanges with all of you:)
Andy does not like most women, he really doesn’t. Think he is starstruck by a few but other than that he will shade any woman.
Shay, trust me, I get it. Who wouldn’t love that?
Except you are too smart for it. And it would be demoralizing. The lack of balance in terms of power leads to insecurity and low self worth. These men create financial dependence b/c they like to dominate. They want someone who does what she’s told. Period. Kim left out that part. And any woman that claims it is all sunshine and Cadillacs, has a lot to learn. As they say, they say “jump” you say “how high.” You don’t question them, refuse them, or defy orders. And once they get bored, you are cut off. It is no way to live.
Melissa, I think Kim is as dumb as a fox. No one takes advantage of her. She lies to win.
Perhaps, Porsha should take some lessons from Kim, Shay??? 😉
Miguel, we all could take a seminar from Kim: How to Wig and Cig for $250,000/year. 😉
Shay, you are right — I think Kim is a rare breed that worked it for her benefit. All gain, no pain.
But who knows — Kim puts on a great front. I have a feeling that underneath all the bravado, she’s an insecure woman. The obsession with plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures and the seemingly endless stream of selfies raises serious eyebrows.
I usually agree that those are signs of insecurity, but in Kim’s case I think she is just really self- absorbed. And I wish she would stop with all the plastic surgery stuff, especially her lips. Why doesn’t she see that she has gone too far? I don’t know, maybe it is insecurity.
I agree with your recap. Joe Gorga losing his virginity at 9 is sexual abuse, NOT something to brag about . Its beyond disturbing. Teresa and Melissa are two peas in a pod and so delusional. They are enjoying their 13 minutes of fame. (I’m hoping we dont give them the full 15) I can see why Jacqueline is so upset at times. She can see right through it. Tre lies and lies. Does she not remember the sprinkle cookies was on tape? Nothing about Jacqueline screams stripper. Melissa? Yes. Lol Tre is totally delusional and I am so glad Andy called it Federal Prison and not CAMP!!
It was really strange?odd? Awkward? When after Joe disclosed this disturbing fact he kind of grinned and then checked everyone’s reactions like he was eager for approval…
Society has trained our boys to think of something like this as cool or proof that he is some sort of “stud” – trust me, I got into yelling matches over this kind of issue. I was a young teacher when the whole Mary Kay LeTourneau rape case came about. It is a sociology research paper waiting for the right student – a comparison of the language used to describe that situation, vs cases where a male teacher did the same thing (or at least to post pubescent students, unlike MKL who groomed her victim from second grade on)
Hell, a few years ago a local radio news guy, when the anniversary of the case came up, was doing a segment on it. In it, when discussing the events as they happened, described him as her “young lover”. I happen to know the radio station owner – and he got a full on surprise lecture from me the next time I saw him..
it was a bit of an aha moment for me when he said what age he was. Teresa’s dynamic with her brother may also be in part because they had this “secret” growing up.
I don’t think Melissa found it amusing – she tried to tell him not to answer, at least that is what appeared to me. She of the three would have a better clue about how it isn’t funny – she’s not in their family of origin, and she at least had some training as a education student in college. (Did she do her student teaching? She would know the term “mandatory reporter” and what you are supposed to report)
Oh my it was so disturbing to hear them “brag” about a nine year old having sex. And then to watch their faces looking at others reactions thinking they were being cool and humorous about a nine year old being sexually abused. So disturbing!! I hope this is Teresa and Joe G. (Melissa) last season.
I laughed outloud when Teresa accused Jacqueline of being an informant or a snitch, or working with the government to assist in Teresa’s conviction (whatever she said), and Andy, turns to Jacqueline and whispers something, obviously asking her if it was true.
I think Andy believes Teresa.
@Melissa. Probably why Bravo brought Jac’s back on the show. I think her dirty deeds will be exposed since Tre’s has been played out.
Andy calling Dolores a kept woman was terrible. Since when is raising your kids and making a nice home not a job. I’ve been on both ends and being a full-time mother is hard work and 24/7 with no sick days. Andy knows nothing about life and is a sad person in my opinion. All he does is work.
@spunky2015. I think you are right. The Bravo gods are clearly giving Jacqueline a crappy edit. She’s a fool to play along.
I wonder if Jacqueline was on the government’s witness list? The US Attorney preps for trial and has to turn over witness statements, witness lists, etc as if a trial is forthcoming, even when they anticipate a plea. There are deadlines that cannot be missed. Since Jacqueline was Teresa’s BFF during the timeframe of the fraud, who better to attest to Teresa’s knowledge and intent to defraud? Since the government had her signatures, her intent was probably the only issue that would require testimony at trial. I can’t imagine the government not contacting Jacqueline. Perhaps Teresa’s attorney forced her to read the file.
And re: Dolores — You are right. Andy is clueless. He posts an endless stream of dog pics to humanize himself. But he’s just a fame seeking misogynist who lives to exploit other people’s pain. IN MY OPINION. Allegedly. I could be wrong.
Again, it was the bankruptcy filing and the investigation by the trustee who uncovered the paper trail to all of their fraudulent activities that sealed their fate. They would have no need to interview the RHONJ cast. It was a cut and dry financial case with tons of fraudlent paperwork as evidence.
Oh, I agree. There is no doubt that the legal troubles began when they falsified and omitted information in the bankruptcy petition. The U.S. Bankruptcy trustee seemed furious to me.
But, even though the case was open and shut in terms of her signature being authentic. IMO, the government would still have to present evidence as to not just the “actus reus” but also Teresa’s knowledge and intent. And at trial, the US Attorney would call witnesses to establish all elements of the offense. He or she would have to or risk the judge dismissing the case. Who could better testify as to her knowledge and intent that her close friend that spoke with her daily.
Melissa, you can’t say IMO and then misrepresent facts. There are facts, and then there are opinions. Your opinion has nothing to do with how the bankruptcy trial was conducted. Nonetheless, even if there was evidence that written proffers were made by any of the RHONJ in court, if they were, this information would be know by the now convicted felons. It would not be some stupid conspiracy theory that Teresa made up after getting out of prison. Teresa has a history of blaming anyone around her for her numerous, intentional, crimes. Witness are not commonly called in bankruptcy court. Her INTENT was obvious when she walked into multiple offices holding falsified W-2s claim to be a real estate agent, an interior designer, and the Queen of Sheba when she was UNEMPLOYED.
You can’t have opinions like “they would have called in all her friends as witnesses” when that is not how the process works.
I wasn’t talking about a bankruptcy trial.
I was speculating as to the case that the US Attorney was planning to present in the criminal cause of action.
And I never once said that the US Government would call “all her friends” as witnesses.
While you disagree, I stand firm that it is entirely possible that the US Attorney would call Jacqueline Laurita as a fact witness in order to establish a necessary element of his or her prima facia case. And I never stated this as fact. I stated this as a logical possibility. How could I state it as fact? I am not privy to the US Attorney’s proposed trial strategy, and there was no trial.
And yes, intent can be inferred from circumstantial evidence, documents, but it is more persuasive to present fact witnesses. I understand exactly how the criminal litigation process works. And US Attorney’s rarely present cases without fact witnesses and documentary evidence in fraud cases. That’s not opinion, it’s an observation based upon real life experiences. I am not talking about of my ass.
Teresa probably is just making things up. But I don’t know that. Nor does anybody. And frankly, I don’t care.
Thanks for the reply. Take care.
Melissa, you understand they took a plea deal, correct? As do 95% of most people on Federal Charges. There was no trial for the fraud. THEY PLED GUILTY.
quite frankly all you have to do is watch the first episode where tre and juicy are carrying huge wads of cash peeling bills out to pay for all their over priced crap. the story was juicy was a developer, but when this came out, development had tanked, the banks were foreclosing left and right, there was no way they earned that cash honestly, it was only a manner of time before these morons would be caught due to their own greed and stupidity.
I recall asking my husband how Joe/Tre had that much spending cash from construction, we have our own company.
First he said he did not know, he has no interest in the show. Later he said paying cash is a way to not have a paper trail for unclaimed funds.
He said Joe might had got paid for a job but instead of depositing funds he spends it on items that are not deductible.
He also said Joe will get caught thinking the IRS is stupid.
I don’t think Andy believes it for a second. I think he was as shocked as everybody up there when she said that. It was ridiculous.
I don’t believe Jaq had anything to do with this. It’s all a smoke-screen, a diversion. Teresa has blamed her OWN brother and sister in law for taking to the Feds. She’s blamed her husband and now it’s trickled down to Jaq and Caroline. She knows she got greedy and it screwed up her family but she can’t deal with and process the guilt so she looks to whomever is convenient at the moment, demonizes that person and they become responsible for her plight.
She’s obviously going to toss this shit on Jaq in the hope that it will stick, we will all be diverted and start questioning Jaq and stop talking about her. People who are stupid and keen to elongate the story for more gossip will fall for it. It’s pretty pathetic and I can’t believe people don’t see right through it.
At the end of the day it’s 41 counts of fraud. It’s nobody’s fault but Teresa’s and Joe’s. Bottom line. Why we’re discussing anything else baffles me.
I am cracking up at the folks clamoring for the show’s cancellation. Like our remotes don’t have on/off buttons or channel changers or something. ?
I am one of those that wish it was cancelled, along with all other franchises. I do not watch them anymore, with exception of RHOC. I have deleted eveything BRAVO from my DVR. I won’t even watch the OC reunion after the latest “incidents” with that franchise. I will watch nothing attached to Andy Cohen again. The entire franchise is gross & Andy’s behavior is loathesome.
I do, however, read everything TT writes. I wish everyone would see what a jerk Andy is & hit him where it hurts–his wallet. Sigh :/
Rather than cancel it, I think they should just recast it with emotionally balanced, interesting woman that don’t act like idiots and pander to “Daddy” for money and attention. Daddy has issues and would exploit anyone and anything for a buck. Even children.
i think most loyal fans are simply frustrated with Bravo squandering an excellent format with felons, trolls, and fame seeking morons who will do anything for a attention. We keep watching hoping it will change.
But trust me, we won’t watch forever. I will use that remote eventually. And the Bethenny Frankels, and Caroles, the ones that constantly chastise those that are critical of their contact with the “change the channel” mantra will be begging people like me to show the least bit of interest in them. Be careful what you wish for, right?
I would watch again in your scenario. But they would have to replace “Daddy” as well. He makes my skin crawl.
Btw, always love your comments, Melissa!
Thanks I.Just.Can’t! LIkewise.
🙂
I want the show cancelled so that Teresa will have to get a job. I’m well aware of how my remote works.
Teresa with an actual job.
I’d watch that on pay per view.
Isn’t she going to be a yoga instructor? That cracks me up. Let’s just say she doesn’t exactly have a soothing voice or a mellow temperament. I’m not seeing it. Aside from the obsessed fans, who the hell would voluntarily take her class?
I’m thinking she should bank all she can now. I can’t see any career that would fit her. Everything job that comes to mind, I rule out, b/c there are actually decent people doing that job that couldn’t stand her.
FTR — autocorrect sucks. I am actually somewhat literate. My OCD requires either an explanation or and EDIT feature. Love ya TT! Nobody recaps them like you. .
That’s a show I’d watch. Teresa working as a real job. Hell, any of them. Except Vicki.
I would watch a show where Theresa gets a job. Remember that old show with Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie where they had to go across the country doing regular jobs & stay at the host’s home? THAT would be entertaining AF watching Tre, Shannon, Heather, and other pretentious stupid Hwives doing that! Or like Mike Rowe’s “Dirty Jobs”! Lol!
Will you be recapping Married to Medicine? How are you on Jac’s team? Haven’t she and Chris filed some fraudulent bankruptcy too (I’m not quite sure on the dets/specifications) and blame their entire financial situation on their son? She’s not much better that Teresa.
Holy crap. Gorga “lost his virginity” at 9? And T was happily encouraged to marry a drop out with not even a GED?! What was going on in that house?
I…I…I feel something. Omg, it’s pity. I actually feel sorry for them.
How is that even biologically possible? Was he pretending? And who was the poor little girl? This was TMI but not enough TMI, if that makes sense.
Gorga is FOS. He’s a legend in his own mind.
Jac’s choker was distracting.
The sleeves of the dress looked too tight and made her arms looks big, plus the choker, the massive cleavage — not a good look.
I really didn’t like Teresa’s look either. The makeup was so heavy.
It was cutting into her neck. If she was trying to have us not focus on her neck, fail.
Tre managed to make herself look worse last night than any of her critics could.
I saw nothing Zen about her behavior. I was waiting for a plug for her YOGA mantra.
I am sure part two will include something to promote her “new kinder” self.
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I was zonking out so I didn’t watch this at 10pm. Joe admitting he lost his virginity at 9 is shocking. It explains a lot of why he’s so hyper-sexual. I like that Andy was not coddling Teresa. Her snobbery about the Ford is another piece of evidence that she will never change. I would have respected if she said that Ford was an anti-Semite and will NEVER buy one under those circumstance. Lexus leases are expensive. I bet it was a promotional gift from a local dealership.
Heard her car was a free lease from that rich guy Bobby from last season whose family owns car dealerships
Spunky, please read the commenting rules.
And no, that guy got shut down years ago and is probably in jail or hiding.
We own several Fords now and have owned them for the last 40 years. Have other makes also but Ford trucks are great, I laughed when she said that.
Lexus is a over priced Toyota.
Tre is beyond stupid.
This is interesting. Last week it was the coats and this week it’s the cars. Both are symbols of the frauds that Teresa has been running, in every conceivable way.
Since we’re talking cars: Minky could so use a new set of wheels!!! I’m thinking about getting a nice Jeep Grand Cherokee. I want something that’s moderately priced, but will last me a good, long time. Unfortunately I work a real job and don’t want to bother with falsifying documents and/or lying on tax forms. So no luxury tin cans for me!!! Haha!
BTW, you’re right Calipatti. Lexus’ do absolutely nothing for me. They’re kinda passé by now. (No shade to any Lexus owners) If Teresa really wanted to flaunt her ill gotten gains she would get a Tesla. The ritzy neighborhoods in the beach cities are crawling with them now.
Minky, when I wrote other car, I drive a Grand Cherokee but have driven other Jeeps also. I get 200,000 plus miles. Certain years have a water pump located so poorly that it’s a major overhaul to replace, be wary of those years.
Great cars, if you haul anything get the tow package, great torque. The V-6 has as much power as the V-8 with much better mileage.
I like the cloth seats better than the leather but that is just my taste.
TT so correct about the Guidice’s bringing down their own house of fraudulent W-2’s. BK means Feds involvement. Opp’s no record of filing tax returns! Plus largesse shown on RHONJ!
SO insane to pass to the blame.. to Caroline and Jac.
Is it just me….
Or was ANDY OVERLY OBSESSED with JOE GORGA’S PENIS AND SEX LIFE!!
It’s Andy.. Notice how Joe’s face was beaming with delight! I find it distasteful but it’s Andy.
It wasn’t just you. He’s mentioned seeing Joe’s dick a million times since the episode aired and then he talking about replaying the raw footage over and over.
Those kind of comments only attribute to the stereotype the gay men are sexual deviants who have no self control. Totally not cool.
If Joe wasn’t married, then that would be a little different. But Andy’s persistent lust on National TV for a married man is horrible….and just as equal to when they tried to slam Kenya for lusting after Apollo.
Even on his radio show it’s all about sex too. Ugh
TT, I’ve this one gay guy friend that often talks penis size about a mutual friend. I’m so over it I don’t reply to his IM’s sometimes.
Other gay guy friends are not like him, at least with me nor have I heard them focus conversations on this subject.
I don’t know why some men do this, gay or straight.
Andy is repulsive.
Was he drunk or something?
Completely.
When Teresa made the ridiculous FORD comment, all I could think of was Eileen Davidson and her Ford Flex. I love me a Ford Flex. It’s a great family vehicle that looks cute. I don’t know why Andy didn’t bring that up.
http://tamaratattles.com/2015/04/07/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-reunion-part-2-recap-winner-lisa-rinna/
It’s one of the things I love about Eileen.
I have an Ford F-150. Awesome vehicle.
Teresa is nuts. I imagine she had to lease a vehicle b/c I don’t think she’d have a credit score high enough to buy a car.
Which is funny, b/c with her bankruptcy history, I don’t think Ford would finance her anyway — even on a lease.
But Lexus? I think they are more lenient w/financing.
I’m quite sure the paid cash for the Lexus with their stolen money or Bravo checks from Joe’s show. They can’t take out loans (and a lease is a loan/debt) due to their plea deal for their multiple fraudlent activities. Once she gets kicked out of that house, she will have to have someone lease property for her.
I thought the same thing about the lease. How could they possibly access any credit at all at this point?!
My friend was just laid off from her job recently. Immediately after that her car wouldn’t pass smog (we live in Calif) and was going to be much too expensive to make the repairs so it would pass. She was told at the car dealership that she could lease a car without any means of income. But she would have to pay the entire lease $ up front.
I lease a 2014 Ford Escape, bottom of the line model, and my payout for the entire 3 year lease would be $14,000. That’s for a lowly Ford. I wonder how much the entire lease amount would be on a high end Lexus? They may have dropped a lot of cash on her welcome home gift.
Regarding Teresa thinking that she is too good to drive a Ford, this is the woman who thinks that she is above living in a house that anyone has lived in before her. She is a legend in her own mind.
I’m with you Tamara, I would love to know that Teresa had to go look for a job. It’s disgusting looking at their gigantic home with all that furniture and knowing that they should not still have it. She is delusional and thinks she deserves the best even if she has to steal it.
We have F-150’s plus 2 Rangers, DIL a Focus electric/gas.
Love our Fords.
I remember Eileen’s comment. I agree.
Glad you brought up raw footage.
Tre wouldn’t get the “semite” meaning anyway..
I seriously think Teresa has a learning disability. When you couple that with English not being her first language and that’s where she gets in trouble, and sounds like a middle school girl when she opens her mouth. She and Joe (Gorga) have both said they didn’t speak English until they were in school.
Huh? Really? Thought they both were born here?
Tre has “written” so many bestsellers..that obviously ghost written.
Is this a joke post?
I know BamaBelle’s post sounds odd, but families like Teresa and Joe’s DO NOT hold education in very high esteem. They think school is for stupid people. Unfortunately I grew up around people who have this mentality. It’s a thing. When I went to college and grad school my hick family would throw shade. I’m not saying that all illiterate or uneducated people are like this, but many can be. Especially if they have a couple of bucks, acquired legally or not. As a matter of fact they think that making money the shady way (think fraudulent lawsuits) means that they’re SMARTER than everybody else. It’s sick.
It’s not uncommon in NJ to find first generation families where the parents only (or mostly) speak their native language and the kids aren’t exposed to English until grammar school. They are only exposed to other families of the same ethnicity. I’m sure that was the case with Teresa and Joe.
Joe wasn’t born here and never became a citizen-that’s why he may be deported.
Teresa’s comment to Andy, would you drive a Ford was beyond obnoxious. I really hope this show is canned so she can find a real job. Her in a small condo and working a nine to five job is a show I would watch. I did not spend much time at all really watching this so glad I missed Joe saying he lost his virginity at 9. Holy crap, I just can’t with these low- life’s.
Minky: I grew up between two off the boat Silciian families.. The first thing they did was get their children in catholic schools. AT home, Mom and dad spoke italian and the kids tried to teach them english…The dad learned some and managed to do very well. The Mom stayed home and after 40 years she could not speak english. She wanted me to learn to learn Italian.
The kids.. now adults have done very well for themselves.
I try not to post overly general opinions.
I’m sorry if what I wrote sounded stupid, and I certainly didn’t mean to offend any specific ethnicity or entire group of people. When I wrote “families like Teresa and Joe’s” I didn’t mean Italian families. I’m not Italian and neither is my family. But I recognize the mentality that I see specifically in Teresa and Joe and the people who surround them, and I know the kinds of ideas that motivate it. And those motivations have nothing to do with where people are from originally or being an immigrant. Please forgive me if it came across wrong.
Minky, your words were fine by me, I did not think Italian or any one ethnicity. I thought uneducated without respect for education.
Thanks Calipatti. I was worried there for a little while.
Although it is known that it was the bankruptcy that started it all, I believe they way they flaunted their lifestyle & money all over S1, S2, S3 up until they announced they got busted may have been another reason the feds would have came for them & of course NOT PAYING THEIR TAXES!
It took until today to pick my jaw back up off the floor after the “I blame Jac & Caroline now for the feds coming after me” Holy shit I can’t believe she said that statement! How does she not think it could have been be one of the many fans or even someone who knows someone who knows a Fed that would have reported them as suspicious eventually? I would think anyone watching could see the dozens of red flags flying over the Guidice mansion. If this doesn’t make the TRE-Huggers wake up and see this Felon for who she is then I see no hope.
Got to give it to Andy for the line of the night “And back from the federal prison” #Perfect.. Did anyone count how many times he said “prison” and “criminal”? The 2 words Teresa does NOT want to hear. I loved the look on her face whenever he did..Bwahahaha! Your right, TT I think Andy was trying to wind her up, but she is #Namaste Too bad she could have gone “Ape shit” crazy… Pun intended
I’ve heard Judge Judy say that the IRS has people who watch her show. (A lot of people on her show admit to being paid in cash at their jobs, and not filing taxes.) The IRS only needed to see that one episode from long ago when Teresa went furniture shopping. With a wad of cash if I remember correctly.
I like to watch people’s throats when they are speaking. Nine times out of ten if they are lying, they will swallow and you will see the throat sort of bulge. I know…it sounds weird. With Teresa, I know when she starts her high pitched screeching…she is lying.
Jac’s choker truly was choking her. That thing had to leave marks on her neck.
Hey Joe, WTH is wrong with sloppy joes out of a can?? Let’s take this one step further….maybe Melissa would like my recipe for baked Spam with brown sugar glaze.
Giiiiirl!!! I loves me some Spam. Thinly sliced, fried, with melted cheese on white bread that’s got a shmear of country crock on both slices. Mmmmmmm boy! Yes, I know that’s extremely unhealthy, and I haven’t eaten food like that in a while, but MY GOD is it good. Arteries be damned!
Spam with Italian kim chi. First bury your jarred escarole in the backyard acouple of years in advance. Don’t pay for services rendered until creditors cannot afford a can of spam. Drive the lexus to a nice restaurant for lobster ’cause the kids are too tired to cook.
“People Say the economy is in a recession….That’s why I always pay with cash” ~Teresa~
That line always gets my diaper pissy wet from laughter!
Big Daddy Mike, she sounds like me when I was 7 and obsessed with arbitrage via Chuck E Cheese tokens.
Wow! I thought Teresa’s legal troubles would have humbled her, however they obviously didn’t. And Melissa unfortunately drank Teresa’s kool-aid! Although I thought I saw her squirming at Teresa’s rant at Jac towards the end of the episode.
I fell asleep after 5 minutes
Syllogistically pomp and circumstance are followed by consequence.
TD Holy Crap, the definition of that word took rereading.
Well done!
The Joe Gorga sex at nine thing is ughhhh…I wonder if it was a babysitter/ older relative…why would it have been used as a threat though? The lives of these people!
Daddy needs to make a new series in which all these ignorant ass rich broads live the middle class life for a month or something. Fords for all!
Homesteading!!! Make them chop wood and fetch buckets of water and clean up chicken crap. That’ll learn ’em.
Minky, shoveling chicken shit would cure most people of everything. I consider bird crap the worst of all animal poop.
Kill all the chickens first.
Haha! Yes! And then we can do up a nice big chicken fry with all the fixings. Potatoes, macaroni & cheese, cole slaw, baked beans, biscuits, gravy, etc. Dammit, now I’m craving fried food. ?
Not a Jac fan so lived for the look on her frozen face when Teresa uttered the preview highlighted “Stripper” comment! The Laurita’s were able to hide behind their Company, I think, but are higher level grifter frauds than the Giudice’s. Good for them, I guess. I haven’t checked on the status of that investigation in awhile. Yes. If nothing wrong/illegal then tip offs wouldn’t matter. I tend to think the whole gang of the time did the tipping. Joe Gorga reported the building for the parents to local authorities, I remember. That whole 9 years old sex was so sad and very revealing.
I wanted to like Delores and Siggy, but just meh at the Reunion. I think they are having to go back over past years due to the two HW’s who were cut.