It’s been a VERY long day and things are just simmering down so I am going to do this one as short and sweet as possible.
Wait. First SHADE BY ANDY. Kelly was booked tonight first and they just recently got Rachel to come on the show. RACHEL IS IN THE FIRST CHAIR. So wrong. So very wrong. I actually stopped to tweet Andy and I usually only do that if I am submitting a question. I very rarely tweet any “talent” because I have no interest in talking to them. My opinions wax and wane and if I had a relationship with any of them I would not be as objective in my recaps. Which reminds me I forgot to kindly turn down the interview with a housewife this week. I won’t say who but she was in Andy’s scariest moments on Bravo that he showed.
No shade toward Rachel I love her, but she has been on the show a million times as a fill in. Apparently they had trouble booking THE SECOND seat. The main reason most people tune in after a housewives show is to get housewives tea. Rachel can be comic relief in SEAT TWO WHERE SHE BELONGS. And while I have your attention NBCu please stop backdooring my site and come in the front door like everyone else.
I can tell Kelly is furious. I am too, Kelly I am too. You do not disrespect guests like this. Especially ones who have been bullied on the show you “produce.”
Then Andy has a bunch of ghosts of housewives past ask shady questions because he’s too much of a pussy to do it himself. Kelly just brushed it off. It was the worst guest shaming I’ve ever seen Andy do, and that includes his dickishness with Kenya.
Then there was a game with Rachel call who is more Ratchet, Dratchet, where she insulted Kelly (and Vicki). I don’t understand why she sits there for this.
Then Andy takes another jab at Kelly about something she said at the reunion that he didn’t let us in on. I’ve never seen him hate on anyone this bad. He is such a misogynist. Kelly just keeps taking it and smiling. I’d love to see her just stiletto Andy in the brain if she could hit such a small target at this point. This is beyond rude and he is a “producer” not a housewife.
Then a clip of the reunion where Kelly and Shannon fight. Andy says, “I love how Meghan tried to help you out, she really was trying to help you out.” Fuck you, Andy.
A caller says something about Andy’s “new boyfriend” and he tries to respond but the caller keeps talking and asks Kelly asks Kelly what she thinks the motivation was for Shannon trying to get her drunk and he thinks in America that might be some sort of crime to double a drink for someone who didn’t want one in the first place. He says he thinks it’s a date rape crime. Kelly yes, “Yeah, like a date rape without any lube, God.” And this is why she is my girl.
Rachel comes back as Mrs. Roper after the break.
Next a caller is mean to Kelly (Surprise) asking where she stands with Vicki now because if she had know about “her affair with Frank” she would have thrown her under the bus. Andy pretends like he wasn’t prepped for this. Apparently, Tamra and Shannon are accusing her of having an affair with a guy named Frank. She says she and Frank have known each other forever and he is part of her family and in a Jac moment says we can call Frank.
This just keeps getting worse.
Someone asks if Vicki was a genuine friend to her this season or was she just happy the heat was off her this season. Kelly and I answer in unison, YES. Andy acts like he doesn’t know what that means. I hate Andy.
Rachel again tries to bring things back to her. I hate her now too. WWHL after a housewives show is basically an Aftershow. Rachel should be a second thought.
Kelly says the reunion went better than she expected. Andy seems surprised. Really you guys have antagonized this girl in a foreign country worse than any other housewife. If all that happened to her in Ireland: assault and battery, tampering with drinks, trying to force her to drink, had happened in OC at least she could have gone home to her husband.
Rachel tells us one time a button broke on SNL. So much time with the clown.
Some idiot calls in and asks about some leaked text messages with someone who she accused Michael of having an affair with. This is HORRIBLE. They screen these calls and let every hateful one to Kelly through. Kelly says it is Tamra and Shannon. She doesn’t say this but I think she will sue for defamation anyway. I know it is in the contract but she is sitting next to a producer of her show that is relishing in all of this.
Kelly tells the caller to shut the fuck up, and then Andy asks Kelly what is this place they are talking about. Kelly says she has tons of nasty comments on her phone about this and it’s Tamra and Shannon trying to harass her. Andy says he doesn’t know why all the callers are changing their questions. Really Andrew? I do. It’s Shannon and Tamra and Heather being cunts. Buy a damn vowel. No one believes you. You pissed on Kelly from the moment she sat down and then magically every single caller shit on Kelly and you had no clue. It’s shameful to do this to a woman on live TV.
The poll question was whose side are you on Vicki and Kelly or everyone else? 49% Kelly. Good enough for me. Because people are fucking idiots.
This has to be THE WORST WWHL EVER.
Agree 100% with you. And I am proud of Kelly for not taking the bait. Andy was so transparent tonight.
Seriously. I feel like starting a fundraising page for Kelly. I wasn’t a fan at first because it felt tacky that she ditched Meghan and went for besties with Vikki, but my has she won me over. What the ever loving fuck just happened! Why does Andy hate women so deeply and viciously. Who hurt him? Also, she tweeted that it wasn’t his fault and I’m worried she’ll let him do it to her again. She’s turning a blind eye to his abuse. well that’s my take on it. What a strong and cool person to get through that such class.
There should be a new type of platform for crowd sourced support! Instead of GoFundMe.com where they are asking for monetary support we should start a site where people sign up to rally and support the reality star black sheeps we know are being shafted by production.
Any cofounders out there? 😉
YESSS!!! This idea is perfect!!!
I agree. These past few years have really shown me that Andy Cohen is a man who enjoys watching women tear each other apart.
Didn’t get to watch but hate Cohen more than ever now. WTF is wrong w/ him? Why doesn’t he grow the F up? Thanks for the heads up. 🙂
From my decade of observation I would wager his diagnosis is peter pan syndrome, narcissistic personality disorder, and a touch of h.s. mean girl.
This was DEFINITELY the worst wwhl ever. Thanks for making the most sense possible of it in your recap. I like Kelly, but tonight was a disaster. She started out nervous and then pissed (rightfully) by the Trois Cuntes trying to make “Frank”/fetch happen with those stupid viewer questions. But now I get that it was a Setup by Bravo, from the beginning (2nd chair, really Andy?). Glad to see she fared decently well on the poll though.
Kelly was actually really funny. I started out the season not caring for her but now I do like her. Her mouth can be either insulting or funny, which is more entertaining than other uptight ladies. Bring her back!
I hate to say it; however, I agree, LA_in_KY. And, bring back Gretchen or Jeena (sp?) to make it three against the coven of three. 😉
I stopped watching this shitstorm earlier this year. It’s just cruel now.
Sorry, I still think that Kelly is an idiot! You can’t fly at people all the time and then act all butt hurt when they come back at you. I’ll be in the window licking section with a fabulous cheese platter….and a squeegee. 🙂
Ill be joining you in the WLS I guess, I’ve seen Andy WAY shadier. Kelli gets zero sympathy from me. She got exactly what she gave. I’m not Jewish but I was offended. I’m not gay or a wife beater but why repeat gossip if not to hurt someone? You can’t have it both ways. Love you TT but disagree on this one.
I agree, Jr and Lisa j. Kelly is no victim. I’ve seen way worse from Andy. He just showed what she said through the season. As far as the calls, think she has more haters than OC housewives.
Well well I am Jewish and I’m not offended….
Friday’s Mom, clearly Jewish people are incapable of being offended themselves. This is why we have people who are chronically offended on behalf of the people they feel need someone to be offended on their behalf. Being offended on behalf of someone else is the new fucking black.
Truth!!!!
Clearly Heather doesn’t have a sense of humor. I have been listening and laughing at Jewish jokes on TV since the 70’s…BY JEWISH PEOPLE. I bet she’s a barrel of laughs on set.
LMAO, TT!!!
No! Not fair. Can we not remember the TMZ tapes and restraining orders against Kelly Dodd??? She’s BG with a better wardrobe. She spouts cruel hurtful digs and no one can care? I call BS.
Who is BG? This is why we have rules.
Lord ! And here we go
O.O. The initials thing is driving me batty. And the one who calls Tamra “TJudge” why can’t people just type out the names? Such simple rules.
The WLS is filling up pretty fast. lol I agree with you, Kelly got as good as she gave. I don’t see her as a victim at all; she’s capable of making decisions like whether or not to down a drink someone ordered for her or to respond or keep quiet after baiting comments. She took the low road each time. I don’t have any sympathy for her. I’d like a seat by the window, please. 😉
Kelly is awful and I do not feel sorry for her. She’s like a small child who shouts out the cruelest thing possible when she’s “backed in a corner.” Really? The woman has anger and communication issues that need to be addressed. I firmly believe she came on RH to make Michael look like an ass so she could finally get her divorce. That plan didn’t work out when she realized she’s an ass herself.
I’d like some wine with my cheese… Kelly isn’t a victim- nor was she bullied – she gave way more than she got!
This post has nothing to do with Kelly’s behavior on RHOC. It has to do with HOW ANDY COHEN TREATS WOMEN.
I am still raging about this this. I have not calmed down in over 15 hours. It made me physically ill.
I’d survive just fine if you want to stop or take a break from WWHL. Especially since the reunion is coming up. Xo
Just reading your summary is making me furious TT. It also makes me think that the horrible 3 will not get called on their behavior at the reunion. Andy is the worst.
I get it! I was so mad at Andy that I actually sent a tweet …and I’ve never sent a tweet in my life. My tweet cherry has been officially been popped!
We all sit and complain about the characters and Andy and say what we would or wouldn’t do if in their shoes but the bottom line is we are no different simply because we WATCH. We’ve created the monster. TT, you’re too talented for this crap and I’ll speak for myself only, I’m not ever going to complain, be offended or put off by any of it until I can stop watching. I’ll click and read anything you write, it’s YOU we come for, not Andy or Shannon or Vicki. You’ve got the magic and for that alone I keep coming back! If I don’t like what I see, the power is in my hands! Oprah would be so proud of my Ah Ha moment
Hey Lisa j, I’m curious too – who’s BG?
Andy is so shady. What are the chances that two phone calls that make it on air coincidentally intend on embarrassing Kelly and were set up by Tamara and Shannon?
The tweet from Andy tonight:
Cpl callers changed the questions they told our screener & went rogue on air. Sorry guys. @RHOC_KellyDodd said she expected it – we didn’t
It was sad seeing Kelly excluded, again, on WWHL just like she was all season by the mean girls–specifically Ireland.
I think Bravo & Andy have finally pushed me over the edge. I will watch OC reunion & then I am out. I don’t want them to have ratings & hope many others are as fed up as I am and decide to CHANGE THE CHANNEL. Shaking my head in disgust.
I can remember watching the very first episode of WWHL with a nervous Andy begging people to call in. Have watched him morph into this horrible excuse of a human being, while the RHwives shows have devolved into disgusting examples of sub-humans as well. Can also remember when BRAVO had good shows like “Inside the Actors Studio”.
I cannot figure out if art is imitating life, or if it’s the other way around on this one.
This was the most disgusting & repulsive display of unprofessionalism and mysogeny, and the list goes on. I am irate. It is not okay. I will watch nothing attached to this asshole ever again.
If there is a way to boycott it all, sign me up! In the meantime, ANDREW COHEN, GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU IMMATURE, WONKEY-EYED PIECE OF SHIT!
Kelly made a comment on WWHL that there were 4 bashing calls. I don’t know how things work over there since the show is supposedly live, but only 2 of the calls were aired. Maybe WWHL staffers figured out what was going on and axed the other two callers? Why didn’t Andy ask any questions tweeted by viewers like he normally does? Because he wanted to leave air time for the attack calls? Cohen sucks. Kelly is doomed on this show. She needs to walk now or demand she has a friend or two (a real friend, not Vicki) to film with her next season.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this in the thread already, but there were actually 3 calls that came through that were digs at Kelly. The question was directed to Rachel but the caller first shouted out to the “dome” then asked Rachel who the biggest Debbie Downer in the OC is besides Frank Ultimo (Altimo?). I think that’s why Kelly was not surprised by the second caller who asked the question about having the affair with Frank. Seems a little suspect that 3 calls out of the 4 that aired were designed to call Kelly out.
Maybe the caller’s didn’t “go rogue”? I once worked on a tiny live show like this. If people didn’t call in, they would have an intern on the show call with a pre written question.
Andy is one sick puppy. I used to like him. Now, he’s just mean. And he seems to enjoy it.
Funny you’re saying that Cat, because that’s exactly what I’ve been wondering has been going on with some of the calls to WWHL. It’s seems like a chicken s**t way of addressing things Andy doesn’t want to ask.
If that IS the case, then leave it to Andy and Bravo to ruin the one unique thing that has set them apart from other talk shows.
What was “shout out to the dome” all about? So confused. That was so uncomfortable to watch!
I used to think that Andy was fair…. especially on WWHL!!!! After tonight, I don’t feel the same at all!!!!! Kelly, is a tough cookie! The rest of the women on the show make me sick. I used to enjoy watching them, now they make me cringe. Great job Andy….. great job highlighting bullying and great job jumping on the bully bandwagon! You have A LOT of very angry viewers tonight!
I called into WWHL years ago when I actually liked the show. Someone answered and asked what my question was, I told them and they didn’t like it so they helped me “rephrase it” then placed me on hold. After a few minutes on hold they came back with a completely different question and told me to practice it before they would put me on air..I hung up. What are the odds that the only questions asked were rude to Kelly? And no tweets like someone mentioned above..so odd. Andy is rightfully getting heat for this on Twitter. Asshole.
Really? That’s crazy but I don’t put it past them. Bravo and Andy have firmly jumped in to the gutter and have been playing down there for a while!
I thought the exact same things: Why the second chair? Why is Andy siding with the coven of three? Why is Andy point blank asking bitchy questions and nothing positive at all?? I hate Shannon and the bitterness she brings to OC. Her husband is sick and so is she. Tamra needs to stop being a maniacal mean girl. Oh and Heather, I hate her the most. I hate those facial expressions, her voice and her holier than thou attitude. Who made her resident OC puppet master? Ew. Get her off please
I know this may sound really far fetched but could this have to do with Shannon Beador’s relationship with Jeff Lewis? Remember how nasty Jenni was to Kelly when they were both on WWHL together? Jeff is “tight” with Shannon and aren’t Jeff and Andy close also? Conspiracy sounding I know, but just a thought.
Glad to see your post. I was thinking I was nuts for feeling a conspiracy. Shannon is certifiable.
I totally thought this as well! I’m so glad someone brought it up.
Andy treat’s Kenya and Kelly badly for no reason. Kudos to Kelly for taking the highroad.
Andy you were disgusting last night. HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT YOU BULLY!!!
Andy sucks. Will watch RHOBH and Southern Charm when they come back but other than that, pretty well over him and Bravo. Trying to wean myself off😜
I am only going to watch all of the Million Dollar Listings. LOVED Ryans’ wedding episodes!!
I seriously could not believe that I was watching. Andy was so unbelievably shady and rude to Kelly. Kelly certainly has had some rough moments but how could the host of the show be so rude to her? I would have walked off in the first 5 minutes. Shady Andy embarrassed his guest for the entire half-hour.
It was horrible. I can’t believe the people who apparently hate Kelly so much that they think that level of public abuse is acceptable to them. I am trying to skim over some of the comments because I am going to puke all over again. Such disgusting people.
If you skipped mine TT, I said I will survive without you recapping WWHL. Now seeing you are physically ill, please maybe take a break from it. Please xo
I think some people are wrongly debating the personal worthiness of the victim rather than focusing on the crime here. It’s like with Shannon, I really hate her, but I think it was absolutely wrong that she was (allegedly) the victim of domestic violence and think it was TOTAL shit that David cheated on her and conducted it in about the most hurtful way possible. What David did in both those instances (allegedly) was WRONG. PERIOD. Same thing with Luann on RHONY. She’s behaved in pretty awful ways to the other ladies at times and done some questionable things, but did she “deserve” to have Bethenny (allegedly) have her fiance stalked around until she could find some (alleged) dirt on him to ambush Luann with during filming? Nopity, nope, nope. Kelly isn’t altogether a likable person, but what was done to her wasn’t right. It doesn’t matter if she’s been potty-mouthed, loud or obnoxious. If you consider that something wouldn’t be justifiable if done to YOU or someone you love or care about, then you have to draw the line and say it just isn’t right to do to anyone. Plus, you can bet your backside that Tamra, Heather and Shannon would NEVER be ok with someone doing this to THEM or one of THEIR daughters no matter how they’d acted. Further, where does it end? I mean, where we’re they going to go with the plan to get Kelly falling down drunk? Would they stop at pushing her buttons so she’d fly into a rage? Or would they arrange to have her pass out somewhere and just happen to film her with a stranger on top of her while she was incapacitated? The punishment for behaving poorly can’t be that those around then get to do whatever they want to you no matter what it is. And most certainly, as a figure of power in her life (her boss,) Andy should not have heaped on that shameful WWHL shit show, thereby giving his tacit approval to it.
That was really bad and I felt sorry for Kelly. If Kelly’s suspicions are correct, it’s beyond disgusting that grown women/cast members are systematically leading a campaign to humiliate and bully this woman. I’ve always hated Tamra because she is such a horrible person and bully. I refused to watch one minute of her wedding. And Heather; she can go to hell. I’ve lost all respect for that arrogant bitch. I hope they bring Kelly back next season – she’s great T.V.
I agree with TT on this. Last night was a crazy shit show and I’ve decided most of what Bravo does to Kelly is a set up. The 70s party, Ireland, the damn dark of night bus ride from hell. I also agree with TT that there have been plenty of instances where Kelly gave as good as she got and I’m fine with it. Two adults want to get in a verbal argument and trade low blows on an even playing field, have at it. What I’ve been SICKENED by are the coordinated attacks or set ups on Kelly. I’m not even sure I like her, but I HATE bullshit and unfairness. Last night Andrew clearly thought it would be so much fun to host a Shit on Kelly Party while she sat two feet away from him and he gleefully watched her squirm…alone, in a chair on live TV. Just out of principle as a fellow woman, or hell, just a fellow human being, I was outraged. Clearly the 70s party was also a set up to make Kelly look like shit and in Ireland every one of the Three Cunts was in it to get Kelly hammered and push her buttons. I don’t like that kind of lowdown dirty shit played on anyone and neither should anyone else, I don’t care how Kelly has behaved. And that bus ride to the airport? I would have been scared as hell if I were Kelly or Meghan and would have demanded the driver stop, taken off my production equipment and called for a taxi. No way, Jose, I’m not getting trapped in a tiny, rolling box of madness with three shrieking loons and face-pawing Heather the Head Cunt. Trust me when I say, if people are capable of unleashing this level of Cuntery on anyone, they are capable of doing it to everyone. It just happens to be a matter of who they choose as their victim and how they justify it. Just because Kelly can be an unlikable person doesn’t make it ok.
Thank you SLM for saying that so concisely and sanely. I am too angry to see straight.
I do not like Kelly. I have made this clear just about everywhere. I loved her LOVED her on episode one. It went down hill after that big time. I tweeted to her to “rein it in and sit and watch as you are new ( I included a heart). She tweeted back to me “Shut up you fucking bitch ans you look 100 yrs old” and blocked me. Now that was uncalled for and pretty much straight trailer trash behavior in my opinion. She has continued to be very low in my book. I am not excusing the others. They all are crazy acting this season. But she is off the wall mean way before the others fired back.
I watched last night and thought wth. I watched it again this morning and my opinions changed. I still do NOT like Kelly Dodd. She has moments. But they are few and far between. I do not recall another HW that has caused so much anger and stress and just a complete breakdown of a show.
But ~ I have to place alot of blame on Vickie the Old Goat. Oops I mean the Old Girl. No I mean OLD GOAT. Kelly was put on the show to be pals with Vickie. Vickie had no one. She needed a playmate. So who better than a person who has a rep for taking on prisoners and has a mouth like a sailor? So the plot was cast and off we went into a slow Hell. When Vickie had made up with the others and she just let Kelly fly solo in Ireland I knew KNEW what was really going on. This was the entire plan. Bravos plan. It has backfired because they hate Vickie again. I wish Kelly would have turned on her when she left her hanging there. Everything that Kelly has said came straight out the Goats mouth. She should not repeat it but she was cornered. I get it. The real cunt bitch not a friend in all of this is Vickie Gunvalson. I am sick of her love tank and cancer lies. Her own daughter knows she is a monster.
So watching last night and this morning it suddenly made me very angry and I was very upset and sad for Kelly. It was awful. Beyond awful. Even the Mrs Roper bit was a slap at her. I think if you are not a Kelly fan it is hard to see it. So watch it again. No one should ever be treated this way. It is despicable ans I feel so badly for her. Since I am blocked I cannot tell her so I am letting it out here.
I am sorry Kelly. It was wrong. It was mean. You kept it together pretty good. Keep doing that.
I hope they all come back and I would love to see Kelly join the others and make the Old Goats life a living hell. The real pot stirrer troublemaker is Vickie. She set Kelly up to hate the others and then she set the others up to hate Kelly in Ireland.
Sorry for my ramble. This has been bothering me all day long.
Bravo has surely slipped into Purgatory.
And I thought her appearance on WWHL a few weeks back was awful, but this was despicable. From the SECOND the show started, you could tell Kelly was PISSED. She looked gorgeous by the way. I applaud her for standing her ground and showing some shade towards Andy. He was squirming and he deserved everything Kell served up, including making the show awkward and sucky. Thank God Kelly and Michael are in a good place and they are loaded. So if she has to tell this franchise to FUCK off (like she did those callers) she can. Those calls were totally set up. Actually, the entire show was set up to humiliate Kelly. I am truly disgusted with Andy anymore. I am not surprised this man doesn’t seem to be able to have a relationship outside the one with his dog. I don’t know what Kelly did, but clearly she has pissed Andy and Bravo severely. If I were Kelly, I would beGone With The Wind goodbye, and live happily ever after on the beach in Malibu.
Andy and his group of housewives are fame whores. He enjoys watching people get humiliated. Unfortunately, Kelly did not take the bait in Ireland and get embarrassingly naked wasted. She held the mirror up to the ladies’ hairy faces and the reflection was not pretty.Andy wanted her to be a drunken apologetic heap and she refused to comply. Top Chef is the only Bravo show I’ll watch unless Andy finds a way to ruin it too.
I checked out Kelly’s twitter and she has a screen shot of Tamra setting up this entire Bullshit call in to WWHL.
I thought Kelly dealt with it like a trooper and did not lose her cool which is what I am sure Andy wanted
I thought racheal was a total pig especially when she was so thirsty she had to make a comment that she caught a glimps of herself on the monitor and she looked like Streisand all just to bring the focus back to her ! Wow talk about insecure !
Who told Rachel she was funny? I never liked her when she was on SNL, and I like her even less now. Maya Rudolph? Yes. I think she’s talented. Rachel Dratch? Hail to the nah! I don’t like Kristen Wiig or Tina Fey either. Is this what passes as comedy nowadays? Seriously?
This was the worst WWHL, ever! This is another reason OC should be cancelled. Or, at least, fire everyone but Kelly, and bring in a whole new cast! I hope to God Kelly sues the pants off of those three!
Andy needs to go, and grow the f up!
Kelly, I give you credit for standing up to all those bitches, including Andy!
Andy Cohen is a despicable human being.
I really don’t understand how someone like Anderson Cooper can be friends with us man
Isn’t there anyone on tv that will take this mysongist on and call him out ? surely there must be someone that would do a feature with housewives that have left and tie it to him to draw in viewers and expose this bastard
I broke my own “Don’t tweet the Bravo people” rule last night and furiously emailed Andy and sent a nice one AGAIN to Kelly. It is so horribly wrong to treat a woman this way. ESPECIALLY when you are a quasi boss of hers. The worst part of it all is reading HERE of all places people I thought were human that think it was just fine. This is the world we live in and it scares the shit out of me.
If Andy Cohen gets all preachy on his Twitter or his asinine, inane RadioAndy show ONE more freaking time, whining about internet haters, and the ills of society — I swear. I might have to organize a closed FB group to bitch about him and plan WWHL sabotage. He has made millions stoking hatred and anger. And he wants to give us lectures about civility?
Andy is a horrible Human ..Kelly did Not deserve the treatment she got on WWHL,I tried to watch but I was so pissed I had to change channels I had tears
The second chair was Bull$&%! I saw that right away Kelly should have been front and Center
Andy I hope the ratings of your show drop as low as your behavior
Can’t help myself from laughing at Andy’s showing Kim Z with babies hanging off her plastic self. I know you didn’t mention it but it was really funny to me.
I don’t like Kelly. However Andy was rude and nasty. Maybe there is something we don’t know that went on at the reunion?
I have felt Andy’s disdain for women for a long time. He is one nasty man. He couldn’t keep doing what he is doing and not be. Let’s face it he is nothing more than a glorified Pimp. These women are selling their souls for a paycheck and he is getting rich. Let’s just say this, remember Reza? How horrible he was to ALL of his cast mates at one time or another, the way he brutalized GG last season? How does Andy and Bravo treat him? Why they give him his own show. Andy calls him sweetie when he starts getting out of control. Kelly was so uncomfortable last night from the second that camera was on her. Not judging anything that happened on OC. Last night my heart was sick for her. That was not cool. And that Rachel, whom I love, her body language was pure nasty all the way. God, what has happened to empathy and compassion? I know Cohen said his Mom tweets him after every show, I hope she ripped into him but good.
She won’t, the dye is cast.
You’ve all hit the nail on the head – (sorry, Tamara, I know you hate dashes, but I’m addicted to them) – and Andy Cohen is the ultimate misogynistic bastard. I used to be a big fan years ago but he’s morphed into something so nasty that I don’t think I’ll be watching him any more. That show last night was such an obvious set-up to get Kelly to lose her cool and I was proud of her for staying as calm as she did. I’d have gone off on Cohen. Kelly’s problem is not that she’s so outspoken, it’s that she sinks to the level of being spiteful and trying to hurt others – a very common response from people who feel as though they are constantly being picked on. Problem is, on RHOC, Kelly is constantly being baited and picked on. Shannon, in particular, had the nerve to say she wasn’t trying to get Kelly drunk while the flash-back clearly shows her whispering to the bartender that he should not only give Kelly a drink, but should make it a double. Then, to deny any domestic abuse in David’s background, when public records clearly show there was, is just plain delusional. If Kelly is smart, she’ll leave the show voluntarily. Things won’t get better for her and it doesn’t look as though they need the money. As for Rachel Dratch – I really liked her back in the day, but she added nothing last night and the Mrs. Roper (really?) routine was boring as fuck. Damn, a lot of viewers aren’t as ancient as I am and probably don’t even know who the Ropers were. Overall? Pretty screwed up show, Andy.
English, you are so correct about Kelly and Andy. Andy relies on mainstays from Real Housewives shows that are dying on the vine.
I did think that Shannon asked the bartender to make ALL THE DRINKS DOUBLES. not just Kelly’s..
WWHL has gotten crappy lately along with Andy. I used to really like it but besides housewives his guests seem to be C and D level celebs. Maybe it will get cancelled. Maybe not, but a girl can wish anyhow.
I’m with you on that I’ve stopped watching Andy. I also thought he was a fun guy, my mind has changed he’s made moves on the housewifes franchise’s I don’t get or respect.
I don’t understand why on that little awards thing he’s got going on he’s put up one of Teresa’s daughters as a choice but no other children it’s just not right there’s other kids if he’s gonna to be stupid there’s other kids he could of put up. That to me was a stupid thing to do.
The callers are from a Secret fan FB page called the Thunderdome. It’s a subgroup to the Whispering Alene’s, a FB page for fans of BITCHSesh the Housewives podcast. The subgroup aptly named Thunderdome are trolls and mean spirited folks that got kicked out of or left the main Fan page. They contacted Tamara after the plan was in motion to blow Kelly up with changed questions. Yes, Tamara knew… but she wasn’t the mastermind. All 3 questions aired were Thunderdome members. The first caller stuck to the “given question” from WWHL but added Franks name. This shook Kelly up. The next two callers did change their questions. All of this was confirmed in the FB page last night. They also posted Kelly’s phone number in the Thunderdome FB page the night before her appearance. Which explains all the phone calls.
Thanks Stella someone from the troll group sent me lots of the information that you just verified in a concise manner. I appreciate the post because I just don’t have the words today.
Tamara, even if it this wasn’t TJudge’s idea the crux of the matter is bullying. TJudge could have stopped it. Andy could have stopped it. Shannon could have stopped it. A producer at WWHL could have stopped it. It is an incredible example of gang mentality and cruel hearts. The willingness and desire to hurt someone when they are down is disgusting.
That is what makes me sick about it.
Did you see the woman who was guarding Trump’s star, I know you’re not a fan, but watch that video and what they did to her. It gave me sick feeling in my stomach.
What ridiculous losers. Also, after the trolling are you telling me that WWHL – which is LIVE – doesn’t have a back plan for questions when it’s obviously they’re being pranked? They took 3 live calls even tho it was crystal clear they were being pranked? Even two and I’d just chalk it up to incompetence. But after the second they go to a THIRD? They don’t scramble to find an intern to ask the question they want?!
I just don’t know if I’m buying all this. 🤔
Holy.shit.unreal!!!! that this is what people choose to do with their time.
(meaning the trolls)
Thanks for that info I didn’t know about a specific name and who or what the group was about I just saw a posted text message to Tamra and a reply by Tamra
I must be clueless as I had NO idea this kind of stuff was going on! I actually looked up “Thunderdome” today and couldn’t find anything on it. Thanks @Stella for the info! Tamara, you must have struck a nerve with these trolls for them to contact you! (Good for you!) I am SO done with the housewive shows. It is has become a mean spirited shitfest. These grown women are acting like the middle school mean girls that pick on everyone! I cannot stomach it anymore! I have two teenage daughters and I would be absolutely mortified and would wring their necks if they acted like such bullies!
I thought I was kinda odd commenting like I do (too involved, no life), 🙂
But I cannot even fathom being in a group to call shows, or even think about such a thing. I fortunately have a feeling I am very obviously to who is out there. Especially this is regarding grown ass women. Who does that!!!!?????
How in the hell did they get Kelly’s private cell number?
Thanks. I was so confused when Kelly mentioned that her phone # was made public. So she knew THE NIGHT BEFORE about this, and had to go on the show the next night. Despicable…..I’m DONE with Cohen and the rest of those mean bitches.
Thank you, Stella! I was in the dark and appreciate the clear explanation.
IMO Andrew Cohen is an absolute piece of shit. He is a nasty man and trust me when I say this – he has a whole lotta nastiness coming his way. His day is coming…be patient. We really need to stop watching his shows…all we’re doing is lining his pockets.
I’m not watching him anymore I wish we could have people not watch and them ask him to check his numbers, he’s not worried about a few people he thinks it wouldn’t be a problem. I wish I could get thousands to commit to not watch his show. It will send a message.
I don’t dvr his show anymore and I have followed him from the beginning. He’s gotten too big for his britches. He used to be fun and a little humble but now I can’t stand watching him roll his eyes and condescend to his guests.
You didn’t mention that Kelly no longer regretted her actions at the sushi dinner, the 70s party or Ireland (I believe those were the 3). Even though she had previously apologized, she apparently is no longer apologetic and is now proud of C U Next Tuesday and the rest of her trash mouth. She must be pretty sure that she’s coming back because of her sticking so close to Vicki.
Yeah, I found that to be revolting. She’s just a pig. Because she’s angry at all those ladies again now, she’s no longer sorry for her filthy behavior and role in all those disasters. Makes total sense.
I respect your opinion, but I’m just going to be honest, Shae. If I were Kelly and realized this basket of lowdown, shrieking twatwaffles had been conspiring to purposely humiliate, inebriate and denigrate me on national TV and then I also got trotted out on live TV and shit on again by my boss who found it amusing, I would unapologetically wish I’d called them all cunts all day long for a month while I had the chance. Just my own opinion. No one has to agree. Or approve of my potty mouth.
@SLM ~ I do believe this is the first time I’ve ever read the word Cuntery!
i am a virgin, in that I’ve not watched the interview yet.
But, Tamara, can you seriously say that if Kelly came into your classroom and did her finger hitting your chin trick, and if she did it to you in front of your class, that it wouldn’t be a problem…
There’s a big difference between doing that to someone who you believe is a friend when you’re all in a bar drinking, and a complete stranger walking into your classroom and doing that to you in front of your students. The two aren’t even comparable.
No Sale
First time posting here. Great comments everyone. Just want to add my disgust to most of yours, towards Andy and the witches 3. I have watched all the HW and WWHL since day one and was a huge fan of Andy’s. This year he has become as arrogant as Trump, thinking he can do no wrong. Newscast Mr. Cohen. You are only where you are because of people like us, most of us women. WE don’t want to see other women unfairly trashed, bullied and set up. As a producer, you need to be totally impartial and fair. Your problem started with your friendship with BF, whose arrogance is worse than yours(when she started with some humility and total likability). YOu allowed her to completely turn RHONY into another bullies rule show. Then you sucked up to TG, knowing viewers would continue to watch her and her husband in and hout of the slammer. You kowtowed to them on WWHl on every episode they were on. Now we have TG accusing Jacqueline of turning her into the IRS and her and her show off sister in law bullying Jacqueline. This treatment of Kelly though is beyond anything you’ve done before. You’ve kissed Tamara’s, Heathers and Shannons asses on every episode of WWHl this year. You’ve shamed and humiliated Kelly on both ipisodes. You need to go back to the nice, fair, humble middle class boy you used to be or you will lose many viewers. you are giving positive reinforcement to reprehensible behavoir all for the sake of ratings and money. STOP!
I agree he has his pets and they are Teresa G. Tamra, Vicki, those are just 3 Better known assholes and trouble makers. I don’t respect Andy due to the way he treats and allows them to do what ever they want. He lets the above 3 get away with everything. If Tamra hit Kelly she should go period or fine her thousands of dollars but do something. He will not and I know if I was hit it would turn into a fight. If someone screams in my face I would hit them in the face as hard as I could, that I would not tolerate. I’m not close to being a violent person, but the likes of people like Teresa and Tamra brings out the worst in me. I don’t like watching mean girls and I think that all these ladies in Orange county seem to be scared of Tamra I don’t know why. Andy seems to befriend all the mean one’s. He thinks mean girls are golden ratings. I’m just sick of all the meanness. Megan acts more mature than these ladies do and a couple are old enough to be her mother. I’m glad she moved on she’s not like them and doesn’t want her child around them and I respect that.
And can we all discuss his real life friendships???? Let me start with Ripa. I have NEVER been a fan, even back when I watched AMC. I watched her RUTHLESSLY mistreat an ageing, old school man, who made her a household name, like trash. To this day, I believe she made him look stupid on camera, which forced him to “retire”. Don’t get me started on what happened with Strahan. THIS person is Andy’s bestfriend!!!! Then you add in Cooper, who I love, but have definitely seen his darkness while co-hosting with Ripa. Throw in SJP, who always appears stoned in every interview I’ve ever seen and completely out of touch to life outside of NYC. You are the company you keep.
A. Cooper is no better. Look up his day time talk show where he and that awful Kelly Cutrone tore into a 14 year old girl. He’s a mean girl too. Their friendship makes clear sense to me.
I guess I’m oblivious but it all makes sense now. Your article was hilarious and poignant. I started watching from the beginning because I liked to have a glimpse into people’s lives. It was totally different then and it morphed so slowly that I followed along. I catch myself saying how sad/bad/too much it has become but I’ve been in such a habit of watching it (in secret!) My husband hates it and I would be embarrassed to admit it to people. Maybe I will read a book and let these silly shows go!. I’m disappointed in how mean people can be even when they know they are ON camera. The party scene was gross. #byefelicia
Cocktor Cohen can no longer hyde his true inner self. Some quality alone time in an iron maiden until he gets the point.
Hahaaaaa!!! You’re the Oscar Wilde of the commenting section!
TD I get the joke..but the iron maiden really? He’d probably liked to be whipped more in the torture chamber of worst hosts.
He at least deserves the boot. The whole chastity belt thing didn’t work very well, after all he got jaxed in the end.
Welcome to Andy’s clubhouse where shots are directed at the guest. Break out the shotski fill it with the reality they’re called bitter dregs for a reason.
My take on this is she is Scarlett O’Hara to a tee she walked into the lions den with an extra pound of Rouge on her cheeks and she’s served the dish up cold to all those women Andy Cohen is stupid when it comes to business because he should be keeping her close to him because she is a ratings winner think about all the villains we love to hate Joan Collins Joan Crawford Heather Locklear this woman has that love her hate her thing that brings in ratings Andy is not a very smart man or ill-advised and I understand if she doesn’t want to come back for another season but she should and will ride that cash cow just saying love Kelly or hate Kelly she made this season worth watching and and shut the other women up to show their true behaviour and how ugly they are.
This is soooooo true. I really began to not respect him when I realized the ones that were his favs. It’s like he’s so insecure he has to keep the stupid, soulless ones around to make himself look good. Knowing that he is best buddies with TERESA and TAMRA really says a lot!!! A few commenters have mentioned Jeff Lewis. I don’t know about ya’ll, but I’ve seen Lewis give Andy some SERIOUS side eye on many occasion on WWHL and that stupid awards show. I think Jeff tolerates him at best.
I just saw Kate’s on again tonight WWHL. Geeze, he’s had more repeat guests than ever before.
Andy Cohen is vile. He clearly wants to be holding a peach or an orange or a diamomd, whatever the case may be depending on the franchise. It seems to me that Andy Cohen has deep contempt and hate to love relationship with women who hold their own and are independent. He always does it with Kenya and now it’s Kelly, I wish they would something to him LIVE on air and put him on the spot. I too was disgusted TT. There is a fine line that Andy Cohen is blind to because he is always crossing it. I hope you put him in his place in your email to him, such behaviour from a man is truly unbecoming. #Bitchassness at its’ finest. Urgh.
I’ve been in bed with gastro [yippppeee] so I’ve been down the rabbit hole with this whole call thing and watching the season from the beginning cause it makes me fall asleep and I just keep thinking that *conspiracy theory ahead* Shannon’s pals with someone Kelly has done wrong, like the wife of the boyfriend or something, or perhaps she’s anti “the other woman” after her experience with David and Kelly appears to be the other woman. The caller “bombshell” could be what she was trying to expose her for at the 70’s party when she was talking about “the girl kissing the neighbour”. I’m not saying that Shannon is affiliated with the group but isn’t it all too similar? Why would Shannon go after her from the get go for a slight that Tamara Tattles folks know is somewhat innocent. I always thought she pushed her at the dinner regarding the “who says they’re educated” comment, I mean I thought that was petty of Shannon.
Overall this season has followed NJ on the takedown stakes and NY on the mean girl stakes. Too much stuff has obviously happened off screen for it to get so incredibly ugly and the one thing in common is that they’re all jockeying to be the alpha female. At the reunion last year, I’m sure Vicki apologise, I might have dosed off during that part, and no excuses for the whole cancer debacle but they went so hard on a person who was clearly destabilised by a)the loss of her mother b)empty nesting and subsequent mysterious illness in her child c) being conned. If ever Heather could have pointed the breakdown stick in the correct direction, it could have been at Vicki -we’re talking huge amounts of stress in one year. I’m not a hardcore Vicki fan, last season was not nice but as I said they are all going so hard on a “friend’ of up to 10 years with little concern. Obviously, they want to usurp her so the social climber Tamra can be HBIC – the OG of the OC in waiting if you will.
TT. I’m living for your Twitter feed today. Combine it with your insightful on-point blog here & you deserve a social media humanitarian award.
You are a courageous woman. It’s probably tough to stand firm, not cave and backtrack or soften your views to be more middle of the road, if only to avoid the hassle of dealing with certain people. I don’t know how you do it.
You consistently take up for people, expose wrongs that we may overlook because we are so desensitized. And you don’t bend to bullies. Rare in your world. You are a legit bad ass. I admire you.
Right is might TT. Great job. Your karma cup runneth over.
When Andy hired Kelly he didn’t count on her husband coming to her aid. This marriage survived a real, two year separation and although Kelly may have gotten back into the relationship to be around her daughter full time, apparently her husband has real respect for her. Good for you two for working it out!
So Kelly isn’t down for the count like ANDY the PUPPETMASTER wanted. Some of us actually want to see her fight back against Andy and his bullying tactics (whether the shade comes from three Housewives or him directly).
Thanks TT. You calling out Andy’s misogyny is a huge sigh of relief for me. In my fantasy Andy, the not so self-aware man child is on an a far off island ruled by the female only offspring of he forced fame fed and shamed luring them with money’s curse.
Great examples they have been for their daughters. We can look forward to a new generation of this behavior. Wonderful.
Oh and I almost forgot…Andy is a punk.
So people I have been online friends way before this debacle happened are backchanneling me about the Thunderdome. It’s all very interesting as everyone has a different take on it. One person wants to tell me that nothing I am hearing is true and I shouldn’t say any more about it until they have time to call me on the phone and give me the real version of the story. Oh and that person wants to clarify that the post with Kelly’s phone number on it was posted on the main site, not the Dome where the trolls live and orchestrated the call in. This person thinks this is a very important piece of information you should know.
Another says the roaches are scattering and there has been been a massive deletion going on. I don’t use Facebook other than to publicize the site, so I have no idea if you can delete your own posts. But it seems that these trolls are using their facebook accounts that they also share with Aunt Sally and there are tons of photos of their kids and other personal information there. Not only do they not want THEIR personal information put out there, they don’t want their Sunday school class to know they are part of this group that is not publicly reviled on the Internet.
There is also a female troll gone rogue who is spouting off all sorts of nonsense trying to get attention. They are concerned about her mental health. Just hers. Not theirs.
And here is the weirdest part to me. The people who did the call in accusing Kelly of having an affair and trash talking her claim to be HER FANS and are high fiving each other claiming they got her a second season. The colluded with Tamra to try and get all the calls through, and every single call was from a troll. They said things to upset her. They insulted and embarrassed her because they like her. I am not making this up.
This seem like a good time to mention how expensive mental health care is in this country.
If I could push a button right now and make smart phones and more specifically “social media” disappear from Earth forever, I’d do it. Is this how grown up people choose to live their lives now? I’d feel sorry for them if they weren’t making the world a more terrible place at such breakneck speed. Pathetic.
This is all accurate. I was a member of the main page but refused to join the Dome. It’s not just outcasts – some people were members of both groups. That’s why it doesn’t matter if the number was posted on main page or TD since the trolls could see both. The people who bragged about calling her were members of TD. After it all blew up you could tell who the trolls from the group were. There were 20k members of the main page and somewhere around 700 members of the TD. Whenever people on the main page would ask what the Thunder Dome was, the trolls would respond with links to the movie. I know the name of the founder of TD but it looks like she’s hidden herself on FB.
The admins on the main page reacted quickly and have nothing to do with the TD trolls. I still left the group because it became toxic so fast.
I rest my case.
There’s a difference between production and reduction. Welcome to Andy’s house, watch out for the club. Double shotski of reality.
I knew something was weird on the that episode, it was that painful to watch. Tx for this blog TT, or I would have never known how nuts it really is/was! I didn’t think Pat the Tush was remotely funny and ditto for Mrs. Roper, but didn’t conncect the shady 2nd chair thing or have a clue about the Dome stuff.