First of all, I have a lot of respect for Eileen for even writing a blog this week. So far she and Kathryn (I have not read) are the only two blogs posted since the reunion. For me, I tend to base my opinion on a situation where one person says something was said and the person accused of saying it denies it on a couple of things. In the case of Lisa Rinna we have someone whose mouth gets her in trouble because she says exactly what she’s thinking. Last season she told the truth about Kim Richards. Kim Richards was high as a kite and quite aggressive and agitated on a long van ride with Lisa Rinna last season. I would most likely have asked the van to be pulled over, gotten out and called an Uber to take me home. Being trapped in a confined space with someone who is on drugs is a very scary thing. Rinna was very honest about what went down and much less dramatic about it than I would have been. While most people simply muttered about Kim’s “situation” Rinna called it what it was, someone with an active addiction problem. She told the truth.
This season, we have Yolanda with her constantly changing illnesses and co-infections. She claims everything from brain swelling to two foot parasites to explain her bizarre behavior. She talked about the batshit crazy in the room. She never said Yolanda was not sick. She never said Yolanda had Munchausen syndrome. She basically said, “Something ain’t right with Yolanda.” For most people with a fully functioning brain, this is once again stating the obvious and telling the truth. I don’t think she went far enough with the Munchausen conversation. I think she should have listed the symptoms
- Dramatic but inconsistent medical history
- Unclear symptoms that are not controllable and that become more severe or change once treatment has begun
- Predictable relapses following improvement in the condition
- Extensive knowledge of hospitals and/or medical terminology, as well as the textbook descriptions of illnesses
- Presence of multiple surgical scars
- Appearance of new or additional symptoms following negative test results
- Presence of symptoms only when the patient is with others or being observed
- Willingness or eagerness to have medical tests, operations, or other procedures
- History of seeking treatment at numerous hospitals, clinics, and doctors offices, possibly even in different cities
- Reluctance by the patient to allow doctors to meet with or talk to family, friends, or prior doctors
- Problems with identity and self-esteem
I’m not a doctor, but I have observed the vast majority of those symptoms on this season of RHOBH. So for people to now be acting like Rinna is spreading nasty gossip is unreasonable. For me, It’s not a character flaw to tell the truth. It’s not a character flaw to feel badly for the telling of that truth to have negatively impacted others. It also not a character flaw to be pissed of that a person or people who were thinking and saying the exact same things would deny their involvement.
LVP on the other hand has a history of being deceptive. She throws the rock and hides her hand. Within the scope of the show, I don’t see this as a big deal. She has been called out on her deceptions and her inability to own up to her manipulations every single season. Surely, one would believe everybody else over LVP. But that is not the case. And even when they do believe everyone else, they still attack the person telling the truth. I don’t get it.
The other thing I look at when determining the truth besides the general honesty or lack thereof of the two parties, is the amount of personal gain their position allows them. While Rinna has nothing to gain and a lot to lose by telling the truth, LVP lies to maintain her cover of innocent party. LVP revels in the fact that so many people view her as a pretty little princess. So for me the call about who to believe is very simple. It’s Rinna.
But let’s let Eileen chime in from her blog:
There’s something else I must address. Neither Lisa R. nor I have anything to gain by calling out Lisa V. It’s not like we get a bonus check from Bravo or a new BMW with a bow around it. No one throws us a pizza party. Nobody hands us a bunch of balloons. In fact, it makes our lives harder. Our honesty has made us targets for the hate and vitriol unleashed by Lisa V., her husband and her die-hard followers. So, I ask you all, with nothing to gain, and possibly our future on the show to lose, why would we do it?
And it’s not just LVP and Ken doing the name calling. It’s their legions of drooling Internet fools who hold them harmless of all wrong doing. They were both aware of this possibility because it happened to others on their previous seasons.
Where have all the other women who had issues with Lisa V. gone? Oh yeah, they aren’t on the show anymore! The exception being Kyle, who tows the line of being honest without alienating Lisa V. so much it must be exhausting. And Yolanda, of course, and her relationship with Lisa V. is less than amicable. There’s always been a tense, weird energy between the two of them, and now I understand why.
Lisa R. was afraid of the retaliation from the aforementioned sources if she went there with Lisa V. The backlash has only proven she was right to be afraid. Oh, and by the way, I was very hesitant as well. But at a certain point I decided enough was enough. Erika was being thrown under the bus for having good instincts about LVP, and I knew there was no going back. Again, I wasn’t manipulating Lisa R. to bring this to light. We both knew it was the right thing to do, but, rightfully, it was hard.
Interesting that it wasn’t LVP coming for Rinna but basically Kathryn backstabbing Erika that caused her to decide LVP had to be called out.
It all goes back to motivation. Lisa R. has nothing to gain by saying that Lisa V. said, “Well there goes the f—ing storyline,” after Yolanda left Lisa R.’s birthday. Nothing. Lisa R. has admitted everything she’s done this season. She was open about being the one who brought up Munchausen. She admitted to Yolanda that she was saying things about her, her illness and her friendships with Brandi and Kim behind her back. Let’s not forget how the Munchausen conversation started, either. Lisa R. said she “engaged in a conversation” and she felt guilty about it. She fessed up. Forget who may or may not have encouraged her to talk about it, she said it because she felt guilty. Then, she even fessed up to Yolanda about it, too!
It seems very clear to me, but a large contingent of people simply do not want to hear this.
No one can claim Lisa R. is not an open book. No one can claim that she doesn’t own up to her words, even when she regrets them. It’s just her nature.
Conversely, Lisa V. has denied any involvement with anything over and over again. She continues to refuse to admit the truth, despite it being made very clear in Dubai that she HAD tried to drum up drama by pitting Kyle and Lisa R. against each other. She said when we had dinner at Malibu Cafe that she never called Lisa R., but Lisa R. has the phone records to prove otherwise. Lisa V. called her many times to influence Lisa R.’s position. Yet she refuses to admit to any wrongdoing and refuses to stop vilifying the people who are merely pointing out things about her that she doesn’t want to admit.
A lot of people are confused that she has denied calling Rinna BEFORE the reunion. By the time she got on the couch it was “rarely.” Also the ten phone calls WERE ON ONE DAY.
So, why would Lisa Rinna and I lie about this? The answer is: WE WOULDN’T.
On the next reunion episode, LVP is going to cry. When she did that a few seasons ago where she got a really bad edit, I felt really badly for her. I bought it hook line and sinker. I was so pissed I didn’t want to watch the show anymore. This season, I am much too smart to be fooled again.