Andy Cohen is the shadiest person in the world bringing that Vivica person on WWHL on the very night of the premiere. And really? We need 45 minutes of this? I’m going to try to get through this as soon as possible.
It’s a bit late in Kandi’s pregnancy for her to be flying to NYC. She’s seven and a half months pregnant. Mama Joyce is the bartender. It’s her birthday. She’s single and looking if anyone cares.
The Kenya shade starts right away with Sheree saying Kenya can’t afford her (Sheree’s light bill). It is so insane for Sheree to be talking about someone elses pocketbook when she has all those liens on “her” property. She’s so broke she could not even keep the house in her name! First it was in her mommy’s then he pushed it on Tierra and then she finally made a shell LLC to hide it in! It’s downright delusional for her say anything about Kenya who has a peach, and owns her house in her own name. But that is delusional Sheree. I thought these two made up for a hot minute but I guess Sheree didn’t expect to see Kenya calling her out of her name right from the first episode.
Andy brings up Apollo’s motorcycles and four wheelers being at their house and his car being at Cynthia and Peters. I hope the Feds are listening so they can go pick them up for repossession toward his fines. Kandi says she didn’t know at the time that was a problem for Phaedra but she found out later it was an issue for her.
We are going to play this Peter and Cynthia drama all the way out this season. Andy wants to do a play by play of the video, which seriously, they must have paid a lot for. Kandi says she would kill Todd if he did that. That other bitch is loud and cackling and jumping in a lot. She seems to think we care about her opinion.
We get a montage of Sheree’s past ratchetness on previous seasons. And the Kenya and Sheree bout over Chateau Sheree in season one.
Vivica basically said that 50 cent is gay. She refers to the XXL cover above which started a whole lot of rumors when it came out. 50 Cent has recently been talking about Empire’s ratings dip being because of “all the gay shit.” Does he protest too much? Frankly, I don’t care, but Andy seems to really like the idea.
They show a scene where Phaedra and Kandi go at it from next week’s show.
To her credit, Vivica doesn’t take Andy’s bait about Kenya and merely says the Kenya cost her $600 to buy a new phone.
A caller asks how much Todd and Apollo’s relationship has affected her relationship with Phaedra. Kandi says that she doesn’t really side with Apollo on anything but she thinks Phaedra views it as her taking Apollo’s side.
Andy asks Mama Joyce how her relationship with Todd is going. She says it’s just fine. He asks her reaction to the baby news and she says she was very excited. He asks how she would feel if the baby was named Todd Jr. She says it is not going to be named that. (Which is true, Todd didn’t want a junior). Mama Joyce says she and Carmen have made up and are getting along quite well. Andy is at the bar leaning on it for this interview and Mama Joyce could not be more thrilled by the attention. Andy tries to stir up shit by trying to make Mama Joyce answer whether she thinks something happened between Carmen and Todd. She keeps trying to wiggle out of it and it is pissing Kandi off. Frankly, this is the best behaved we have ever seen Mama Joyce. The gay shark comes out to Tardy for the Party with a birthday cake for Mama Joyce.
They play a game trying to suggest baby names for the baby. Mama Joyce suggests Harper and that one seemed to hit close to home.
A caller asks Kandi whose house do you think will be finished first. Sheree or Kenya? Kandi says there is a bet going on between the two about this. She says she thinks Sheree’s is the closest to being done but Kenya is very competitive so she is going to say Kenya. Of course it is Kenya. Kenya is the one with the money to pay her contractors.
Andy says that 50 cent’s publicist has called in to say that 50 Cent did not day that the reason for the decline in Empire’s ratings was all the gay shit, but that her retweeted something from a blog and then when he read the site he realized there was information he did not agree with and deleted his tweet.
Andy’s Mazel goes to Vicki Gunvalson for being spotted out on a date with someone who was not Brooks! Yay Vicki! Andy says they don’t know much about the new guy but “they didn’t know dick about Girth Brooks either!” LOL.
I just can’t with Vivica Fox. Sure wish I still lived up the road from Chateau Sheree so I could see what is happening with the ‘lieberry’, skating rink, and the troll castle turrets she copied from the Guidice’s.
Empire’s ratings have dipped because the writing’s in the toilet and people (like me) have given up and stopped watching. Not because of “all the gay shit”.
I tried and failed to see anything homoerotic about that magazine cover. What, one’s arm is on the other’s shoulder? So what? If that’s what it’s about, I think it’s pretty homophobic (and ignorant as hell) to think that’s “gay”. Looking at you, Vivica.
I’ve always hated that wig that Joyce wears. She’d look infinitely better with a style that has volume on the top.
Do you think it was shade to Kandi to play “Tardy for the Party” during the birthday segment? Did she and Kim come to a settlement over the song? If not and I were Kandi, I’d say “Don’t you DARE put more royalties in that bitches pocket if I’m on this show!”
eric, I thought you watched porn. Do you not recognize the mask? The twink tank? It was much discussed on gay sites by gay men. Far be it from me to defend Vivica, but this is not her being homophobic.
I can’t say I never see porn, but I’m not a big consumer of it. Of course, one can’t be gay and not living under a rock without being aware of who some of the performers are.
As far as the other, alright I guess. I’ve never heard of a “twink tank”. Maybe that’s an Atlanta thing? And no, the mask doesn’t ring any bells. If it were black leather, that’d be different!
Or maybe I’m just so de-sensitized that none of it seems like a big deal to me.
//shrugs//
Ericzku I’ve never heard of twink tank either, and I also didn’t associate his head gear with anything gay. It looked more like terrorist chic than something that is part of gay subculture.
I don’t think Vivica is homophobic, but she certainly was trying to “gay shame” 50cent because she’s thirsty bitter dirty bitch.
I didn’t see it as ‘gay shamming’, more like pointing out the hypocrisy of 50 Cent, who retweeted something inappropriate about Empire.
Count me in too. I don’t see a gay thing going on either, although I’m sure someone here is about to tell me I’m old to understand…
@UrethraFranklin:
“She’s a thirsty bitter dirty bitch.”
Perfectly put. My opinion too. You managed a succintness that I was unable to muster at 3AM!
I have no idea what a twink tank is, nor the significance of the head gear.
The entire VAFox/50 Cent thing seems like bitter exes on both sides – he slagging off Empire, she implying he’s gay. I didn’t like it when Camille Grammar did it, when Porshaa did itnor when Vivica does it.
Gay shaming an ex while saying you are supporters of the LGBT community makes you a hypocrite.
I tweeted to Andy and Radio Andy that something to the effect that I am all for throwing shade at an ex bit the He’s gay thing? This is 2015 for God’s sake, and it isn’t like 50 is a republican candidate for Senate.
I have no idea what a twink tank is nor the significance of the headgear, but, then again I’m a boring old married gay.
I will say that trying to gay shame your ex while claiming to support the LGBT community makes you a hypocrite. Vivica, Porsha, and Camille Grammar have all directly done it while others complicity went along with it and Andy looked on in glee.
Even the most open and comfortable straight guy ally wouldn’t grab his junk while another guy is draped over him, unless drunk or making a joke. My opinion.
Photographer directed the photo shoot, not the men and the magazine selected the cover photograph.
My sons hug their friends and …
I watched WWHL knowing they would show the Peter video. I was hoping they would show it in real time rather than slow motion. How dumb am I? Of course they will only show it in slow motion because if they didn’t it might not look so bad. Then again it might, my point is I will never know!!! Thanks Bravo.
I got the vapors when Vivica threw down about 50. I wondered if it was the booze, the need for a job, or plain ole revenge for her to say that. I say all three. Lee Daniels should reward her with a Spinoff. She slighted back pedaled but I think there is going to be some fallout from this.
I can’t believe what Vivica said about 50 cent. She dated him! He dated Chelsea Handler. I hope she gets a lot of hell for saying that. Maybe she is in the Brandi camp where negative attention is better than none. WOW I used to like her.
50 cent had said way worse things about Vivica.
And is you don’t follow him on IG or Twitter, go there now. He is the pettiest man alive when it comes to cyber beef. But I can’t lie… I’m entertained. lol
Oh Lord above… Mama Joyce bugs the shit out of me. Her shade is horrid, considering it is about her daughter’s marriage. Worse than Cynthia sister.
She’s a really nasty piece of work. I was horrified by the way she treated Todd and the way she goes after people physically-she’s gotta be around 65 and she’s throwing things at people and threatening to woop their ass? Totally Ghetto. Before their marriage, I felt her concerns were all about Kandi’s money, as in: Once they’re married, Todd will take MY share of the money and what will happen to ME,ME,ME!! I don’t feel that she was concerned for her daughter at all -only herself. Then Kandi buys her house and all she does is complain about it and allow her boyfriend to tear it apart causing thousands of dollars worth of damage. Ghetto.
I was just watching the Demi Moore movie, “The Joneses” and saw Kim and Sheree in a scene! I knew they were in a movie but never knew the name. The camera lingered on Kim for a good three seconds and we only saw Sheree from the side. If I’d looked away for a minute, I definitely would have missed them. Kim looked very different-less plastic surgery, pre nose job.
Well 50 Cents is firing back at Vivica on social media after she said he was gay. Here’s a couple of his tweets:
50cent: Oh No!!!, ? Now she thinks I’m gay because I let her lick my Ass. ? LMAO. Wait,I didn’t want her to,she forced me, my hands were tied. 50 shades of grey ?
50cent: Bitch remember when you told me fuck Halle Berry and you could have played all the roles she did better then her? And I just looked at you ? like what the fuck kind ?shit did you take?LMAO.
Who is Halle Berry?
It’s almost as if all three of these people (Vivica, 50 and Halle) are virtually irrelevant in current popular culture/media/music/film.
Grab the popcorn.
Halle just had a t.v. show on CBS and has a current production deal with them Hos is Halle irrelevant to popular culture?
The space show that had really low ratings and was recently cancelled? Face it, she peaked long ago.
Your kidding right. 50 just put out an album in2014 and has another in 2016 coming out. All 3 have been in multiple movies, TV shows and videos. Several within the last year and new ones scheduled to release in 2016.
Good, I’m glad he is getting her back.
Tonight Mama Joyce looks like she has gotten herself clean of whatever Ugly Pills she was taking in past seasons.
WWHL is the dumbest show ever and I rarely watch. Mostly only when there is an Atlanta housewife on because I can’t take much of Andy. I honestly don’t get his appeal or exactly what he is supposed to be doing. It all seems a bit too silly with missed opportunities to ask some real questions. I honestly don’t get what Andy is supposed to be all about but I can be a little slow sometimes.
Tamara, I love you and I love your site. But, I cannot read it with the black background. I have those terrible over 50 eyes, and I just can’t see the printing. I hope you change back because I am really going to miss your tea. I am sorry to be negative but I thought you might want to know that for some people (me) – it is impossible to read. I will miss you (and will be checking back to see if you go back to your old, beautiful, format). Thank you.
Hi Tamara. I too have difficulty reading with the black background. You are the first blog I come to every morning and don’t want to miss a word!
Just the opposite for me. I happen to be over 50 and it is MUCH easier for me to read with the dark background. Follow some of Tamara’s suggestions and it will make a difference. And I would NEVER give up this site…I would find a way to make it work. GAWD, if I didn’t have this site to come to every day, I would be more than a little sad. 🙁
I go thru Facebook to read her blog and it’s a white background. Try that… Hopefully it works for you too.
yes i love your site as well, read it every day but that brown background with white letters is fucking with these old eyes too. 🙁
I have been highlighting the text, not a perfect solution, but makes it readable anyway. And read I must! God knows I am not gonna waste my time watching Bravo, but I can’t help reading about the cray-cray!
Agree. Hard to read on an I-Phone too.
Well, that’s pretty weird. The background on my phone stayed white.
I must admit it is difficult for me to read with these colors. I’m surprised to read several older fans here as I am. I just thought it was for a younger crowd. I had cataract surgery earlier this year and colors are brighter and more vivid. Someone wrote on an earlier article in comments that the colors on their cell phone hadn’t changed. On my IPhone the colors are also white with black script. When my eyes start to bother me on my iPad I switch over to my cell to finish reading.
Thanks TT and the “Radiator Chain Gang” for all the entertainment.
white on my iPhone also
no problems at all
Andy Cohen is the worst interviewer.
Reading all the comments about the website, I’m wondering if I have eye problems. You guys all say it’s a black background with white script. It shows up as brown with a yellowish/tan script for me, which I can read just fine. Crap.
I feel the same as you earl grey. I’ve given up commenting between the weird comments about Kandi throwing shade and Kenya or selling her vagina or the latest doctor’s report on people’s eyeballs. I’m just looking for a place I might enjoy reading. Seriously.
Why is Kandi throwing shade at Kenya??
So are we to assume Kandi is selling out her vagina and baby for a birth spin off too…yuck. i like Kandi and all but she sounds kind of mean here.
Some times when I watch a show and then read the commentary, I’m not sure if I’ve seen the same thing as everyone else.
an example of his best trolling…. Juvenile at best. This mother fucker is hitting 40 and he feels the need to protect his wittle feelings?! He needs to grow a pair. What VF said was nothing to get ones panties in a bunch . He used then, instead of than. He is vile with the face to match. Have you looked at his face? I’ve thrown messy logs out of my ass that look better than him. He slings middle school quips and people go ape shit over it. He is no Winston Churchill with the verbal, hence the lack of his shitty music he has put out in the past decade. So yeah, fuck fiddy his doo-rags, misogyny, anti gay, mediocre rhymes and his Becky bitch Chelsea hag handler.
I would say “Kash” for a boy, but Kim already stole that name from Kandi didnt she? lol!
“Aunt Viv” has been getting DRAGGED since this episode aired, the vlog/blog/radio show-sphere has been on FIRE with this.
I’m wondering how much Viv had to drink in the Clubhouse, because she was just on a daytime talk show less than 10 days ago doing that “Man That Got Away” schtick that she’s occasionally done over the last decade, crying on air about Fiddy being the love of her life, lol.