It’s time for the Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion to come to a disgusting end. My only question is how low will Brianna go in all of this. The very first thing we hear is Brianna talking about Brooks and Tamra interrupting her to coach her on her details saying, “He talking about beating you and showing you his penis!” Because Tamra lives to stir the pot even when it is already at full boil. Next we get a montage of the psychic saying he doesn’t see cancer, and the harpies making wild accusations, an shoddy detective work by Meghan.
Tamra tells a story from last season when Heather was filming an episode of Hawaii 5-0 and they girls all went with her to Hawaii. She says that while they were their Vicki told her Brooks was worried he had cancer. She called him on the way home to see what the doctor said and he would not talk to her until she was alone. At that point he told her it was not cancer. Tamra says that Brooks plays the cancer card a lot to get sympathy.
Vicki directly says that she believes that Brooks has cancer. Tamra says that her very first year on the show, Vicki called and told her that someone she was very close with had pancreatic cancer (actually, Brianna interrupted to say it was pancreatic cancer) and was dying. She said she felt like she should leave Donn to be with him. WOW. This is news and Vicki is not denying any of it.
Just before the play Brooks interview, she says, “It’s so disgusting, the whole thing.” But it’s unclear what exactly she is referring to.
Andy asks for a health update and he says that through both western and holistic medical treatments over the past 11 months his condition is improving the lesions on his lymphatic system are no longer there and his numbers are improving. Brooks says Shannon is not the only one with “world renown doctors.” Brooks says that his imaging was done at Hoag Hospital but the report was dictated through Newport Imaging. Brooks seems way more irritated than he did with the full interview here. Brooks says the two exes that claim he previously faked cancer with both of them were in cahoots and worked together to try to disparage him after seeing him on RHOOC. Nicolette sold a story to 20/20. He was concerned he had nose cancer (in addition to NHL) in 2009 but the spot was benign.
Brooks says he never talked to Briana a about pancreatic cancer, they had never spoken during that time. She got her information from Vicki who related the information wrong. Frankly, I can see Vicki doing that. Brooks seems drunk, nervous and argumentative with Andy. Not overly so but there is definitely some aggression there.
Heather asks why she never went to a real oncologist with him. She said his real oncologist, (who she named) would not film. Heather says Brooks has never seen that doctor, he is her neighbor and he confirmed it. Wow, Heather is a little junior Dick Tracy now too! Shannon asks what about City of Hope! They will let you film, I film there all the time. I bet you do Shannon, I bet you do.
Meghan takes some camera time to fake cry for her allegedly gay husband’s dead former wife. The only reason those two women got in the same room together was for camera time. Media whores don’t stop being media whores when they are dying it seems.
Shannon pulls out a report of hers from “her numerous CAT scans at Newport Imaging. Jesus, she’s going to get cancer from al the unnecessary radiation from CT scans. While Shannon is rambling about her CAT scans the report that Brooks had was for a CT scan. She does make a good point that Hoag would have their own transcribers though so who knows. She and Shannon said that the report was fake. Vicki said nothing.
Back to Brooks who says that Vicki sometimes embellishes things for sympathy. He can’t control that. This is why their stories differed some during the season. He talks about the IV story and says that never happened. This is conveniently after he has seen Heather and Terry deny it ever happened on the show. Andy lists all the bullshit that Meghan did this season and asks if he has anything to say to her. His response was, “Fuck Off!” Meghan seems shocked Because she is a meddling cunt satchel.
Andy says you could have just shown Terry your records to put a stop to all this. He says he probably should have. Andy says he still can. Brooks agrees to do just that before the reunion. Heather says they have never heard from Brooks. Vicki retells her story about the IV. Vicki says she lied about the IV for compassion for Brooks because he was sick. Vicki continues to say that she saw how sick he was. She still believes he has cancer.
Vicki says that she went with Brooks to get cancer. She didn’t sit in there with him for the four hours. She worked in the waiting room on her computer. Lots of shouting by everyone at Vicki.
Everyone is screaming at her asking what Brooks has on her. Tamra is RAILING on her making it all about her. Tamra says that for three years Vicki has made her look like the biggest piece of shit (Now, you did that yourself, Tamra and you are doing it again right now, post come to Jesus baptism bullshit. You make yourself look like shit and make a mockery of religion) for not liking Brooks.
Vicki says she is appreciative of all of them because she understands now what they were doing. Vicki, by the way, appears to be drugged up on Xanax and can barely keep her eyes open. Shannon is screaming about remorse. Heather says Brooks has something on her (Maybe that wine deal they were in on together? Or the Club Detox stuff?) Andy asks if she is scared of him and she nods. Vicki denies physical abuse. She says he was more verbally abusive. Tamra is screaming about Brooks threatening her now! Yet she is being verbally abusive to her on national TV. Andy asks why she would go to these lengths to defend Brooks. Vicki doesn’t really know why she worked so hard to do it. Vicki says that things go worse as the season went on. Vicki says that she did question Brooks about things not adding up. Brianna thinks that Vicki doesn’t want to believe the truth. Vicki continues to maintain she still doesn’t know if Brooks has cancer for sure.
Shannon yells at Vicki for saying she was not supported this season. Heather and Briana think that Vicki really didn’t know Shannon and Tamra and Meghan think she knew the whole time.
We get a montage of all the fights with Vicki and most of the baptism. There is discussion about Vicki going to hell Meghan Shannon and Tamra seem to agree that Vicki is going to hell. They really should be nice to her then, so they will have a friend when they get there.
Good God. There are twenty minutes left of this bitchfest and it is already 9 p.m. Shannon is such a cunt. Shannon doesn’t get why Vicki was most hurt by her. In the middle of Vicki saying she doesn’t have a definitive answer either way about Brooks cancer for the eleventeenth time, Tamra shouts out, “What does your gut say?” and …
Vicki says, ” My gut says he doesn’t have it.”
Holy shit. Shannon says then why did you drag us all through this. SERIOUSLY SHANNON? The women have been so far into this that they spend tons of their personal time researching it and impersonating cancer patients. VICKI DID NOT ASK ANYONE TO DO THAT! Vicki says it has only been in the last month that she has felt this way. Two sentences later she says she questioned it three months ago. Brooks would not give her any reports. Heather wants to know why if she had red flags it would make sense to include at least one of them in her thoughts. Why not share her concerns with her friends instead of fighting with them. This too is a good point.
Andy brings up that Vicki took Xanax before the show. Brianna, evil cuntsicle of a daughter that she is pipes up to say, “Five Xanax!” Vicki says she took half of one, Briana says she took half a “xanibar” which is ten milligrams which is a shit ton of Xanax. I’ve been taking it for years and took .25 milligrams for years and only recently moved up to .5 pills which I still often take half of (1/4 milligram) I can’t imagine taking five milligrams and being able to talk. Andy says that she seems very disconnected. Briana says she has been this way for the past two weeks. She had a huge meltdown after Brooks dumped her. Vicki says she got duped. She would never lie about him having cancer if she knew she did not. Andy points out that Meghan has no idea if he has cancer or not. Brianna just said her mother has been like this for two weeks. Then she tells Andy that the last two weeks have been great because she got to come home and stay in the family house without Brooks there. Brianna said her mom has been laying on the floor crying for the past two weeks and then says the past two weeks have been great for their relationship. None of these people know how to tell the truth. Damn.
Vicki says she will never get back with Brooks. Andy says Brooks told him he will never see him again. Briana says that she thinks Brooks will come around again and Vicki might fall for it again. In the break, Tamra is all soft spoken with Vicki, and wants to accept that Brooks lied to her. Briana is in there supporting…….TAMRA. Tamra talks about how her heart is broken Because it is about Tamra. Vicki says she is never going back to him. Tamra talks about how she talked with Briana last night (to plot for the reunion against Vicki.)
I so wanted to see this for myself but truly appreciate your recap no access to Brovo or on demand at the hotel unfortunately but your post once again delievers! What do you think T?
TT, thank you for this recap. I was so disgusted with the behavior of the women that I had no words to describe how it made me feel. I am beyond disgusted with Briana who would have kept her big mouth shut and dealt ONLY with her mother and NOT Tamra who everyone knows is a liar and a pot stirrer. Heather was obnoxious and so was fake tears Meghan but Shannon took the cake. What a bitch. No wonder David had an affair. She is a nag and a shrew and a horrible person. I hope that David leaves her and that she has no one to comfort her. I can’t even begin to describe how awful this mess made me feel and I thank you again for doing it for me in your spot on blog. I am DONE with this show and those women. Vicki is a mess and needs help to protect her from herself, the men she picks to date and her own daughter. She has NO friends among these women and needs to move on. If she tries to earn her way back into their trust then she really is a fool. None of them is worth it. This was a horrible display of how women act toward one another and an embarrassment to all women.
I so agree with you. I can only hope BRAVO drops the whole group of just awful role models.
So the ” ladies ” think that Vicki was lied to and abused and they attack her for it?
Heather screaming at her ” you are too smart to be deceived” was rich. As if smart women are never deceived by their husbands. They did not attack Shannon for not knowing that David was having an affair despite the fact that everyone in town knew.
I can’t stand to see people getting rat packed. The ” ladies ” were vicious Their behavior towards Vicki is deplorable.
So I was out foraging for provisions, thinking I’d come home to this waiting for me on the DVR.
This first showing of part 3 was tagged as a “repeat” rather than a “new” episode, so it didn’t record. So I’ll have to wait for the 11PM replay. Fucking Bravo.
Perhaps this was done intentionally because it’s become such a shit-show. Nah.
Same thing happened on my recording … Said nothing new. So, I set it to record again at 11. Thankfully, the recap will hold me over until tomorrow. In the meanwhile, I will count my blessings. Those miserable hags have a way of helping me to appreciate my life.
I’m disgusted by these losers. Vicki should disown Brianna. What kind of piece of shit daughter calls out their mom on national television? There’s no excuse.
AMEN!
What kind of mother doesn’t believe her grown daughter when she tells her that her boyfriend hits on her and offers to see his wee wee? Plus, Vicki has made disparaging remarks about Briana throughout the show. Vicki chose Brooks the crook over her blood family. All in the name of her ‘love tank’. Vicki deserves the criticism and lucky that any of the ladies are willing to film with her again.
My takeaway on tonight? I LOVE Heather’s dress. And thats the extent of my investment in this show.
That’s it?!!! Oh, come on now. You could at least comment on Vicki being stoned on the drug that’s inspired your CB handle here.
Personally, I cannot stand Brianna. But I think her makeup looks beautiful.
Is that a joke? I thought her makeup looked really really bad, way to heavy, black eyeshadow. Just not pretty on her
@Minky…Agreed about the makeup. I also really liked Vicki’s makeup and I think she looks way better than Tamra.
Tamara I know I said not commenting anymore yet this ambush on vicki was just awful. Bless her and she should just leave and Andy was terrible to her
You Vickie Stans are Delusional!!
No one is a Vicki stan we just dislike ganging up on one person and pounding that person until she breaks….It’s called being human. I am done with RHOC… thanks for the recap TT….I didn’t watch.
It’s simple. If you don’t want people ganging up on you for lying, then don’t lie to a gang of people. Lie to one person next time.
I feel bad she lost her mother but I would die of shame if I allowed my daughter to see this toxic relationship play out on national television.Vicki needs serious intervention & if I were Brianna & felt my mom was being taken advantage of I would act exactly the same!
I hear ya. I think adult children can become shaken to the core, when they see a role reversal like this. They feel if anyone is going to be a fool over a love interest, it should be them as a twenty something, and not their parent thats a fifty something. They arent used to being the stable one ,comforting or trying to rein in a confused and hurting parental figure. Breanna’s behaviour ,is actually not that different from what ive seen, when after many years a parent makes a big transition and becomes a completly different person than who they grew up knowing. I think Vickie and Breanna need to rediscover their relationship as two adults, with boundaries and respect.
Yes, Janet. Absolutely. Vicki is hurting. Badly. The overuse of Xanax is ample evidence of that. That howler monkey Briana knows this. Her mother is depressed as all fuck, taking drugs to numb the pain, laying on the floor crying her eyes out, and all she can do is holler at her and embarrass her on TV. I don’t usually condone child abuse, but I agree with Brooks on this one. Brianna has earned herself a good ass whooping.
Completely agree marc! It’s as though she’s been brainwashed–we’ve all had friends in bad relationships who drag us into them but adding “cancer” to the situation? I’d be pissed as Shannon was too. Briana obviously loves her mother and is worried!
Ditto. Ditto. Ditto.
“Vickie and Breanna need to rediscover their relationship as two adults, with boundaries and respect.” Beautifully put, Janet! That explains perfectly what these two women should do.
I don’t know if Vicki has ever been a stable parent. From what I have seen of her, she’s very self-centered and emotional. She shrieks and woo hoos and then becomes very controlling. I really hope Vicki gets a lot of help.
So would I. You don’t blindly accept a con man into your mother’s life and just say “if it makes her happy, I’m happy”. It doesn’t work that way. Vickie is so easily duped by men and I’m sure the next one is lining up to fill her love tank. All he has to do is tell her how wonderful she is, how beautiful she is, open her door for her, pull out her seat, and pretend that she’s the center of the universe. She obviously falls for that bullshit.
I don’t get it either. Vickie’s a classic narcissist. Everything that happens, no matter if its to Brianna, Brooks, or her kids, it’s all about her.
Vickie may be narcissistic but Brianna has a borderline personalty. They are both emotional wrecks and would probably be better off apart. Unfortunately for both they enjoy feeding off of each other. YUCK!
I agree with all of you above. Vicki acts as though her life is authored by Hallmark, when in reality it is authored by good decision making and being your best self towards others. I feel sorry that this realization has come in the form of numerous crushing blows to Vicki in the past few years, but being around her daughter could be the first step in moving on to a better life. Hopefully Brooks is truly passed off enough to move on for good from Vicki, because I feel that she would return to him in a hot minute if given the chance.
I’m weirded out that Vicki made up that IV story.
I’ll blame that one on production. Maybe I’m naive, but whatever.
I agree Minky, I detect production there too.
Minky, I hope it can be chalked up to production. Tamra’s supposed to be the lying liar who lies, not Vicki. Vicki’s like family – batshit family, maybe – but still …
Vicki relayed this fabrication to Briana and Shannon in October, three months before filming of season 10 began.
Vicki lies constantly.
Anastasia: don’t you think because vicki can’t even admit to lying (mixing things up, mispeaking, joking, covering up, etcetera instead) that she probably lies a lot? I mean, if you don’t think you are doing something wrong what’s stopping you from doing it habitually. Afterall, it’s “only” for self-preservation, sympathy, and casseroles, right? (Don’t think about how she lied repeatedly to shannon who was already giving her attention, sympathy, and oc-casserole-salads-without-dressing.)
I’m confused how is production’s fault that Vicki lied about the IV?
I think Vicki’s known for a long time that Brooks most likely did not have cancer or at least pancreatic cancer. Most people don’t reach 50 without knowing at least one person who’s suffered from cancer – especially someone who works in the insurance field.
The fact that she claimed to know remarkably little about his condition or cancer in general just did not ring true. In order for her to question his cancer meant she would have to acknowledge Brooke’s deception-to others and most of all herself- that she was, “Duped”. More importantly, in Vicki’s case, it would also mean that she would finally have to leave him because you just can’t stay with someone who lies or exaggerates about having cancer and for Vicki that would mean she’d be all alone. Vicki has a terrible fear of loneliness and of being alone. I doubt very seriously Vicki has been without a man for more then a few weeks since she was 16. Some people are not capable of being alone-they always need someone around to gratify and validate them. These people are perfect for Reality TV. It will be interesting to see if she’s able to be alone for any extended period of time-will she quickly hook up with a new man or will Brianna come home-her husband quits the army and starts working for Vicki? Could happen.
Last nights reunion was a massacre. In night of all time lows, even my husband, who was reading the paper and barely listening, was stunned by the, “YOU’RE going to hell” “No I’M NOT” “Yea, YOU’RE definitely going to hell” WTF?
Me too, and if she’s willing to do that for sympathy, is she also willing to nod her head “yes” to the question “are you scared of Brooks?” for sympathy? I DON’T agree with the gang-up on Vicki all season, but she is still Vicki.
That’s a very good point as well, Yoya, about the head nodding.
That poor woman lost her mom and we do not know about the boyfriend so cut her a break. The whole season was about her so they should be nice.
That “poor woman” knew her cancer hoaxer boyfriend had been lying for months and still had the audacity to claim she was being persecuted by her friends who doubted her. She has known since she first was seeing Brooks he had a history of lying about cancer. I am no Tamra fan but the fact Vicki expected her ” to be a warrior” for her and prop up these lies shows she has no shame.
How do you KNOW she knew Brooks was lying? Is Brooks lying? I still haven’t seen definitive proof one way or the other.
She knew he was lying because Vicki had to ‘fabricate’ stories to cover his lies. Let’s not forget that Brooks the crook has been telling Vicki he has fought cancer now for 8 seasons! Back when Vicki told Tamra she is leaving Don to take care of someone she cares for deeply. Brooks is one lucky man to fight and win over cancer repeatedly.
Here’s my beef. Many people who do have cancer linger on hope that they too can be cured if they follow someone’s elses successful cancer treatment regimen. Brooks was defensive and very thirsty during the Andy interview. He was angry that these ladies didn’t buy his bull. After all it worked with Vicki all these years. He only had to fill her shallow love tank.
When I lost my mother I was sad, I still am sometimes. However, I didn’t start lying to people for sympathy. I think this has probably been a pattern with Vicki all her life. She is certainly controlling and very emotionally needy. She may have had to lie all her life to satisfy her needs. He mother eluded to this on a couple occasions.
Vicki’s mother eluded to Vicki’s neediness, not her lying.
I believe a Xanibar is 2mg, which is still a lot of Xanax. That’s equivalent to eight 0.25mg Xanax or four 0.5mg tablets. Can’t blame Vicki for medicating before the reunion. She knew what it was going to be about.
For Andy to even comment is an insult that woman is the first real housewive and she deserves better
I don’t understand why being the one of the first real housewives would mean that she deserves better than anyone else. You reap what you sow.
Yes, the bars are 2mg, divided into four .25mg sections.
Xanax comes in white, peach and blue. The white pills are ,25 so those xanibars that are white breakinto .25 parts, peach bars break into ,50 bars and blue break into 1mg parts. When I was out of white pills and having a panic attack someone gave me a blue bar. I probably still have it somewhere. It was so much Xanax it was pretty much impossible to cut off ,25. I don’t know how much Vickie is accustomed to taking but if she took 5 of anything I doubt she would have been awake the entire day,
There is only one “xanni bar” and it is 2mg. It is a long stick broken into 4 parts. The colored xannies are a football shape or round (depending if they are certain generic brands) (as are the little .25mg white ones). There is no such thing as a 10mg Xanax. There are 3mg (and maybe even 4mg I am not sure) extended release xanax, but those slowly release the medicine over many hours.
Yes a xanni bar is 2mg. Take it from me…a reformed addict. I have snorted 4mg before and you will not be able to stay awake…unless you take that much all the time. For someone who rarely takes xanax, even 1mg (half a bar) is more than enough to make you act pretty loopy. Especially if you chase it down with a glass or two of wine like Vicks likely did
The pancreatic cancer lie he told Vicki back when she was still married to Donn was the most eye opening thing to me. Vicki was majorly blind to what an ass Brooks is. It’s sad. I hope she’s sincere about not getting back together with him and I hope she gets lots of therapy to figure out what’s missing inside of her that allowed her to be fooled all for some big dick and Hallmark card platitudes.
You made me giggle with the big dick hallmark card platitudes.
I got distracted and then I thought I heard Vicki say something about thinking people would bring casseroles. Could someone catch me up and explain what she was getting at there? I almost thought she was saying that even if he didn’t have cancer, she thought it would just kind of end with a few casseroles and be no big deal. Did I get that right? Thanks!
NO. You did not.
Andy asked Vicki at the very beginning of the reunion if she had taken anything and she lied. It was super obvious she was sedated. She gave several versions of when she started to doubt Brook’s cancer story. I don’t believe anything that Vicki says anymore. I think Brianna is telling the truth and has been trying to prove to Vicki that Brooks is a negative influence in Vicki’s life. I am shocked at how many people are bashing Brianna.
We’re bashing Brianna because she could have done it behind closed doors. She chose to come on national television and embarrass her mother. That’s her mother first and foremost. People have no fucking loyalty towards their family these days. If my mom was lying through her teeth and I knew about it, I’d at the very least shut my fucking trap and not say a word. I wouldn’t sit there and egg on the bozos who were attacking her and trying to humiliate her. It’s not like she’s in a court of law. She’s on a scripted reality show with a bunch of low lives. If she wanted to do an intervention, she should have done it away from the cameras. It’s obvious she thinks Vicki chose Brooks over her and she wanted to make her hurt for that.
Amen
How do you know that Brianna hasn’t tried behind closed doors already? I bet they have had LOTS of discussions about Brooks off camera. Just look at how Vicki shouted at her in OK when she didn’t want to talk about Brooks on film – she knew Brianna didn’t want to stay in that home as long as Brooks was there but Vicki still asked her on camera? Not once have I got the impression from Brianna that she is accusing her mom of lying – more that she she is trying to get her mom to see she has been duped by a conman.
Exacrly
I agree, shameful behavior. After your mother had you and your famiy under her roof. Heather, Tamra, Meaghan, and Shannon worry about your own lives. Oh, wait you don’t have one so you are all up in Vicki’s. You are all uglier than Brooks !!!Good luck Vicki, sorry about the loss of your mommy, these non-friends should have been focused on this not your romantic life. Loosers!!!
You do realize that Brianna’s mom brought her on TV when she was a minor, yes? So the idea that Brianna even has a stage on TV (as opposed to behind closed doors) is all Vicki’s doing. She partly raised Brianna on TV – Vicki’s choice to put all her business out there. Vicki’s.
I’d have been #teambrianna all along if she had ever ONCE cut Brooks a single inch of slack.
If she had ever said anything along the lines of, “I don’t care for him, but he makes my mom happy” or, “I don’t get what my mom sees in him but it’s her choice to make” I’d have thought she was a rational adult who possesses critical thinking skills. Sadly, that’s not the case.
Instead, Brianna has proven herself to be a petulant child in an adult’s body. She’s made mountains out of molehills, twisted statements and situations to fit her pre-decided opinion, and figuratively stuck her fingers in her ears and screamed, “La la la, I can’t hear you” when anyone has attempted to explain/talk sense to her. She is therefore not credible.
I think she’s taking revenge against a mother who was probably too controlling/involved while she was growing up. She got this opening, this one area whe she can control and manipulate Vicki in return: Vicki’s boyfriend and access to the grandchildren, and she’s playing it to the absolute hilt, to a perverse extreme.
That’s opinion not fact. Brianna has always seemed level headed and credible according to Andy.
“…level headed and credible according to Andy”
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“.. twisted statements and situations to fit her pre-decided opinion, and figuratively stuck her fingers in her ears and screamed, “La la la, I can’t hear you” when anyone has attempted to explain/talk sense to her. She is therefore not credible.”
Just like her momma. Brianna learned oh so well –
Actually, Brianna stated on air to her mother that she (Vicki) could date who ever she wanted several times. Brianna also stated that she didn’t want the guy around her family. She never gave Vicki some sort of ultimatum and never denied Vicki access to her grandchildren. I hope my daughter would do what she could if I was being “duped” by someone.
Omg TT. I just left a long post in the other section about part 3 instead of this one!! Wahhhh but it said exactly that!! It was a shite show!! Lol great minds. I was so mad I was shaking. Ive calmed down some. I cant believe they all believe she was abused and STILL tore her apart!! Abused women lie and cover for their abusers!! They call themselves Christians?? What a joke. Like I said, thank God Im a Jew. Wish I could move that post.. but you can go back and read it. This was a cruel ending to a cruel year. If these women think they are Christians, they are nuts! Meghan casting Vickie to hell? Wow are these the most grandeose, pretentious, sanctimonius women or what?
They are the worst friends ever; it is amazing they can take Vicki’s problems and make it all about themselves. Real friends would be there to comfort her, not to use her problems as ammunition against her. Shannon particularly is so vindictive about something that is barely a blip in her life, but shows no sympathy on the devastation to her supposed friend, Vicki. Selfish, self-centered women. Megan acts like she has been grievously effected by cancer , but most of us have experienced much more and not turned it into all about “Us”. I am glad I do not have friends that are so selfish and judgmental.
Well, Heather is Jewish… didn’t you notice that she and Andy didn’t chime in on the who is going to hell convo? (I must admit, my imagination got to me and I pictured what Andy and Heather were probably thinking at that point… it began with OY VEY for both of them)
Thats bc we dont buy into the whole “gold lined streets and pearly gates” life after death stuff like these non-judgemental , jesus loving, truthseeking reborn christians.
@LisaPat, I agreed with what you wrote and commented on it.
If Vicki G. with all her money, fame, and friends can’t get out of an abusive relationship easily, can you imagine what it’s like for someone with kids involved and no assets?
So true.Well said.
Couldn’t and wouldn’t are two different things.
Thank you TT for the recap. I didn’t watch part 2 and I won’t be watching this episode either. All I have to do is read your blog. No more OC for me. DONE.
Its pretty funny that the best two weeks of their mother-daughter relationship has been the last 2 weeks ..prooving that Briona likes Vickie best half-zonked on xanax with no opinion. She would probably like it even better if vickie were deaf and mute like Helen Kellar. TT .. I peed myself with laughter when you said that Shannon could get cancer from radiationf rom all the pet scans and ct scans! Rolflmao!
That’s actually true! Those scans deliver a pretty big dose of radiation.. I sure wouldn’t be getting them on whims like she seems to be.
What a crap show. I’m so glad I stopped watching. I simply can’t believe how much I liked Shannon last year and how disgraceful she is this year. Dang you, tt, for being on twitter which forced me to learn how to read tweets.
Shannon tweeted all week before reunion show # 2 about how she would live tweet the reunion, but she didn’t cause she had shown her butt at the USC game and made it a press availability. She was tweeting tonight, and catching a lot of flack. Vicki’s brother’s girlfriend did an interview about the blow-up at Tamra’s baptismal party and people are turning against poor Shannon and Heather. Meanwhile Shannon did a story about her oldest daughter and sold pictures of them together. Maybe she wants them to be the Kardashians, part deux. Notice my attempt at French for you, tt.
One thing remains the same at every OC reunion and that’s little Tammy Faye makes sure she’s center stage. Good riddance to bad company.
Still doesnt sound EPIC, to me. The closest to epic is Vickie admitting her gut feeling is Brooks doesnt have cancer. Ive allways seen that Brooks was playing Vickie, and he has a history of that. He wasnt genuine enough or behaving like a man in love ,or giving her the security’she needed. Hes way too much of a womanizer for that age. Vickie has a hard time accepting that, because he made her feel so good , and also she doesnt have anyone else to take his place. I say that because I think if she knew she could have her husband back, she would have been able to let go ,with Brooks. Mostly, between the highs, Vickie has been miserable and lost, in my opinion. Im afraid she is going to have a rough time of it for quite awhile, before she accepts reality and makes a change in her life. Sometimes ,the real deal love is not as thrilling as a fantasy love, but its much more enduring and substantial in the long run.
Yes to this! ??
So Lee Ann is a “media whore” because she . . . attended a party thrown by Jim and Meghan that was being filmed and let her daughter’s prom prep – ostensibly organized by Meghan as well – occur on camera?
I wondered that as well..
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Meredo! Where have you been? Hi!
Shay,Hi! I’m still here reading TT as I’m a diehard fan of hers, I just haven’t been commenting much. I don’t really know why either but thank you so much for noticing. That really touched my heart!
Meredo! I missed you! You were part of my support system when my anxiety was so bad I had stopped talking outside of the house. I thank you for that! Also, is Toddy the same as Hot Toddy? I owe all the TT regulars a super mwah:*
Shay, happy to have supported you! (I’m in the exact same boat and empathize w/anyone who has to suffer through that) Hope you’re feeling better, you deserve it! OK, we better not stray off subject too much or it’s WLS for us! XO
Please, I am so happy so see you back Meredo, I’ll laminate you a get out of WLS free card.
Wow, my cup runneth over! Thanks, TT. Just know I always read even if I don’t comment. I have to get my Tamara Tattles fix daily. Love ya, xo
Oh please, the writing on the wall with Brooks and his antics has been around for years. Vicki is now playing victim so she won’t look stupid that everyone was right about him. She has treated her daughter terribly in defense of that fool. Seems the only way for Briana to get Vicki to wake up is outing her on TV – yet again. Brooks played the divide and conquer game and really Bravo outed him.. You can’t complain and involve people in your drama and not expect them to not have an opinion or questions, which she did this season. Vicki grow up. The funny part is Brooks dumped her!
No, everyone was not right about him. Vicki threw in the towel. That is saying, “I just don’t care anymore”. That is not the same as saying, “You all were right”.
Vicki did NOT involve people in “her drama”. They involved THEMSELVES. That’s the whole disgusting point.
Well said, ericzku. Vicky proves why torture doesn’t achieve the ends desired. People will end up saying anything just to stop the pain.
Vicki did involve the ladies. 1. Calling Shannon for doctor referrals at the start of this. 2. Calling Brianna and telling Shannon Brooks needed an IV and thus involving the Dubrows. 3. Asking Tamra to play interference with the doubters. Her ploy for sympathy for herself and Brooks was dishonest. And how about the juice they were trying to peddle. If someone is pulling a scam why shouldn’t they be outed?
1. So what if Vicki called Shannon for a referral? It doesn’t constitute “involving her in her drama”. If I give a referral to a friend, they can use it – or not – as they see fit. It doesn’t mean I get to have an opinion on everything they do and say thereafter. It also doesn’t mean they have to PROVE to me that they needed the referral in the first place.
2. The “calling Terry Dubrow” story was already thoroughly explained by Vicki in her blog. It was a misunderstanding between Vicki and Brianna. Dubrow was never called. Therefore, NOT INVOLVED.
3. “Asking Tamra to play interference with the doubters”. The coven of cunts had already involved themselves by that point. This was Vicki trying to get them to BUTT OUT once and for all. Asking people to butt out, mind their own business, and stop talking about it IS NOT “a ploy for sympathy”. That’s fucking ridiculous.
4. I’ve seen every episode of the season and there was not a single scene of a “juice they were trying to peddle”. Furthermore, there was no discussion of any juice for sale or of anything having the ability to cure anything. There was NO SCAM to “be outed”. The only “scam” here are fucktards who think they are justified in asking people they don’t even know to prove an illness and then promoting rumors, speculation, and idiotic conclusions as “truth”.
Thank you!
Yes ericzku! Yes lisamia! You’re both totally spot on. This pat season was a long, drawn out torture porn show. And every single last one of these braying hoes took a good whack at Vicki. From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z. Including her own flesh and blood! How could they?!!!
That reunion was a snuff film. They ganged up on Vicki, broke off her arm and beat her with the bloody end of it. Andy enjoyed every sad minute of it. What was with Brianna’s white face and black eye makeup? She looked like a ghoul. Halloween is over. I expected a casserole was so sad. The IV story, Vicki explained it on her blog.
I hate Shannon more than ever. She is pissed because it’s not all about her. Vicki was a good friend to her. Why didn’t Andy go after Tamra like this last season?
Erickzu,
Very well said and I also so agree with your 4point rebuttal post bellow.
I agree. You said it well. I cant suspend all logic, and buy into the fantasy of(if only Breanna had acceoted Brooks they would have made it). Brooks has run with that, in my opinion, because shes a convient scape goat and it puts a wedge between them, at the same time. Guys sometimes do this too, because the truth would be a whole lot ruder. So they hang their hat on the first excuse that presents itself. But the evidence shows something different. Theyve allways had problems between his drunken tirades, his womanizing, clashing personalities at times, and in my opinion, a hidden agenda on his part. And in all this, Vickie has been so weak, that for it to end, he had to pull the plug. Once, you’ve shown a weakness to a guy like this, youre done for.
Good grief! It’s not a moment too soon for this season to be over. Thanks to Tamara I’ve managed to keep up without having to actually look at these women.
Basically, I don’t believe anyone has the right to question what another person says about a medical condition. I don’t for one minute believe they were trying to save/protect Vicki. As my Mom would have said they were just “rude, crude, and unattractive”!
I am not a fan of Brooks but I do find this entire situation to be really sad. Whether or not Brooks has cancer is not the business of any of these women except for Vicky. He owes Andy and the rest of those nasty women nothing. They are not friends to Vicky and Briana’s behavior toward her mother is despicable.
Vicky would be wise to walk away from this show and never look back.
I am going to slightly disagree. Involving Terry in the story about the I.V. did involve Heather. If she did ask Shannon about doctors, that involves her. (Not sure I believe that one… )
Yes, exactly. But, Shannon did set up Brooks with a prominent doctor. His excuse for not going to the appointment was he had two flat tires. For the ladies to be so riled up, a lot must of gone on behind the scenes.
I should clarify my position though. Shannon and Heather can’t help if Vicki involved them, but they can help their reaction to it. Shannon was over the top inappropriate both during filming and the reunion. Heather, at least in terms of the Brooks having cancer, was not. During filming, it was in essence that some of she was hearing didn’t jive, including the names of the doctors she knew personally, who weren’t oncologists. She then asked if VICKI was being duped… not if she, Heather, was being duped or lied to. Even tonight, when Vicki was being shady with some of her answers it was ” you are smarter than this” and declarations that something was wrong – in essence giving Vicki some benefit of doubt.
100% agree re Heather’s “you are smarter than this”. She was trying to help Vicky save face.
Vicki actually admitted to dragging the others into the whole story when she said she was looking for compassion and casseroles. Reaching out to others (and in some cases lying to them) needing emotional support does involve other people and when those other people become invested in the situation out of their concern for Vicki, it’s very painful to find out you’ve been duped. Vicki was not the only one duped in this situation and a lot of the duping was done by Vicki.
I think Brooks makes complete sense.
All it takes is one drama queen to blow things out of proportion. It is so hard to get people to believe otherwise, because they just think you are in denial, or being brave, or something like that. People will believe what they want to believe.
As for showing proof, I get why he won’t. You get so many reports, it’s a pain in the butt to sort through them. Why bother, for a bunch of bitches who call you a liar? I wouldn’t.
Brooks doesn’t owe anyone an explanation. Let the vultures starve.
Exactly, Cat. Perfectly said.
It’s this whole notion that Brooks owes them an explanation/is obligated to prove himself to these cunts is what pisses me off so much.
As far as some of his answers, I can understand. When people ask me invasive questions that are none of their damned business, I frequently will give a vague, evasive answer, hoping they’ll take the hint. It’s often easier than saying point blank, “Oh fuck off already” and starting a conflict.
Brooks is getting paid to be on a reality show – geez.
Exactly, ericzku.
When I told my sister about my diagnosis, she called everyone in my family and told them I was terminal and had hospice taking care if me. That was highly exaggerated, and it took me forever to get family to believe the truth.
That was not MY fault.
I also had 4 friends on Facebook who were like these cunts. They accused me of outright lying, because I got final confirmation over the phone. They claimed that doctors never give bad news over the phone.
They said I was “lower than a child molester or animal abuser”. This hurt. A lot. I thought about sending them proof. But then I realized: Why? Why give these bitches anything?
I don’t care what anyone says. I believe Brooks. If he’s lying, then shame on him. But congratulations for being well. If he’s telling the truth, then shame on these women. And Bravo. And anyone else who had hateful things to say.
It really is no one’s business.
Yes, spunky. It is common knowledge that reality “stars” are immune.
Cat, as for someone saying that the Doctor never gives bad news over the phone. ..I can back you up. When my Doctor called me about mine, she did not want to tell me over the phone. She did want me to come in to talk to me. …but I insisted she tell me and kept on asking her. So I got my news OVER THE PHONE. I absolutely HATE it when people think that they know more about something that is happening to ME. …more than I do. BTW Cat, I hope you are doing OK these days. Every time I see the big eyed kitty cat, I can’t help but wonder how you are. Take care Dear.
Thanks for the validation, AKA Riley. I over shared, and shouldn’t have.
I am doing just fine now. I still have some recovering to do, but have come a long way.
Thanks for asking! Hope you are doing well, too.
Yes, you can receive results over the phone when you least expect them. After my second mammogram, when the first one was suspicious, they had no hesitation to tell me by phone I had breast cancer, but a biopsy was required. In the next breath, she tried to schedule the procedure. I was alone on a Friday afternoon, in a ‘new’ horrible apartment that I hated, and I just couldn’t wrap my mind around anything I was hearing. I hung up on the talented woman at the ‘breast center’, part of the prestigious state university I actually graduated from, totally devastated. If nothing else, that incident steeled me for the multiple surgeries and indignities that followed.
I am so sorry, Joanne!
At work again, so I am reading the blog and won’t have to sit through that hellish part three. Thank you, TT! Poor Vicky. I hope she is getting help and support from real friends and her brother ans his girlfrien. Brianna is the daughter from hell. I can imagine Shannon typing furiously and staring at her twitter page with those buggy eyes while slogging down the gray goose.
I kind of think that Shannon actually has big time JUDGEY EYES where Vicky is concerned…huh?
Agreed, AKA Riley!
worst reunion ever! My god leave vicki alone! so sick of this whole season! worst one EVER!
He will leave her alone when she stops comparing herself to Jesus, and lying for a living.
A new low in Housewife history has been set cause this show sucked from episode 1 through episode 21. I can’t find on redeeming thing to say about it. Not one!
Worst season ever! The entire season seemed made up! Starting with Shannon and David, Vicki and Brooks, and this newbie with the worst attitude. Even Heather and Terry seemed scripted and only out for their new product line. If next season does not have a major shake up in the cast i will not watch again. Get rid of Tamra already, and Meagan added nothing. Her husband was the worst. Shannon needs a new story and Tamra is just over. Keep Vicki:)
Although I would never and could never agree with treating a friend so horribly on such a public platform, I do tend to agree that Brooks is lying on some level. Why not show Vicky his records? In the very beginning? We are all very busy people yet my husband makes time to support me during any medical issue and vise versa. I equate her sitting outside during his treatment to me sitting in my car when my husband was shot on duty. I DID NOT DO THIS. (I was almost escorted to a private room bc as a nurse it’s hard to imgaine NOT helping safe his life) BUT. Even after he was stable I never left his side. IF as she stated he is fighting for his life…. Fight with him.
Maybe I did not read it correctly but if Vicki went with brooks to chemo and sat in the waiting room for 4 hours..why did the girls jump on vicki when she said that? Why else would she be sitting there for hours. BTW Briana is just an ungrateful daughter. She doesn’t need to call out her mother on every single thing. Unbelievably awkward and horrible season.
They jumped on her because usually you get to be with your loved ones to keep them company while they get chemo. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t Vicki say that she was with him so of course he has cancer at some point?
Also, did you notice when Vicki described where Brook’s went in for chemo someone said that’s the lab where you donate blood, not where chemo is administered?!
I have cancer, and when I go for chemo, they have recliners you sit in while the chemo is being administered. I rarely see companions in this room, but who knows? I have 9 doctors, from GYN, to surgeons. So many appointments, (sighs) I always go alone, drive myself, but my GF and daughter sometimes accompany me. I don’t like to talk about my cancer, because people look at you with sympathy. I cant stand that. I know my neighbor once asked me…hollered at me from her balcony, “what’s going on with your cancer?” I was taken aback, actually offended. I never had a discussion with this woman about me having cancer. Later, I found out my daughter told her about it while waiting for the bus sending their children to school. I told her I didn’t want to discuss it. End of conversation. Like these women, she didn’t give a shit about me, and it was none of her business.
I understand Briana’s concern for her mother about Brooks. She REALLY dislikes Brooks. There must be some truth in what Briana is saying for her to be so outraged. I just don’t like her shaming her mother on national TV. What is her purpose of being filmed? Seems as if Briana’s storyline is Brooks. I wonder what Vicki’s son thinks. Anyways…so glad this is over. Wont be watching next season. I know when to walk away…had enough of Shannon, Heather & Tamra.
Thanks for clarifying. I used to take my grandmother for chemo and most times I would sit right next to her but once or twice, I did sit in the waiting room for some of the time if she wanted to sleep or be alone so that’s why I was asking. I think it can be the patients choice whether they want you right there. But either way, I can’t imagine they walked out of there wout chemo unless vicki made that story up too.
Hang in there, Teresa!
Exactly, Erica! Loved ones are allowed, and encouraged to sit with the patient getting chemo. Keeping them company, getting them snacks or drinks, listening to nurse’s/doctor’s directions for post chemo care, etc. I call complete bullshit on Vicki saying she sat in the waiting room for 4 hours. Never happened. Everything she and Brooks say about cancer comes from tv or movies or is just made up. Complete rubbish. They have never actually been through it. I feel sorry for Vicki about her mom’s passing, but backing up Brooks’ con for as long as she did is just awful.
I feel sorry for Vicki bc I think she has now realized how she totaly screwed up her life with Don for that shithead. She is probably really depressed that she has wasted her money not only by helping brooks but by having to pay don in the divorce. I think she misses don and wishes she didn’t make these bad choices. Also loosing time with briana and havingall this turmoil with her. I feel to sorry for her to be mad at her and I think all her friends should feel that way too especially since it is none of their business anyway.
I don’t feel sorry for her. It seems as though she was having an affair with Brooks while married to Don. Brooks said all the right things and made Vickie think that he really loved her. She definitely misses Don but it seems as though Don wants nothing to do with her.
She really needs to learn how to be on her own. It’s a shame that at her age she still needs a man to make her feel whole.
My takeaway is that a group of women made it their business to butt into Vicki’s life, and then took sheer joy crucifying her for what they found. Briana included. Vicki is a good person who is obviously so lonely she fell for a horrible scam. SO THESE HORRIBLE WOMEN SHOULD FEEL
GOOD ABOUT FINISHING HER OFF?? Personally, none of them are worth one more second of my time. HORRIBLE!!!!
Mid season I thought no one could be worse than Meghan.
But then Shannon took first place with her incessant televised child abuse.
But tonight……Brianna, you are simply a beast.
yes. what type of daughter sits calmly, silently, while a mitt-full of hyenas viciously go after her mother?
here’s what. Vicki would never sit still and let that happen to Briana, nor to her mother (R.I.P.) truth told, i really don’t think that Vicki would let that happen to anybody. she’s no angel, but she’d not be in on a witch hunt.
I doubt Vicki was duped. Heather was right, she is too smart for that. Plus, Vicki admitted (at end of reunion) questioning Brooks diagnosis all along. Yes Vicki got ganged up on, but the rest of the cast had legitimate questions that any reasonable person would wonder about as time went on especially when they were asked to help – with the exception of Meghan.
It’s clear that you don’t believe Vicki by your multiple posts but she did not admit to questioning his diagnosis all along she did mention at some point she noticed things were not adding up.
I don’t get how you think someone smart can’t be duped. We all can be duped at some point and there is still no evidence that he doesn’t have cancer.
that said, Vicki was clearly over the situation and is unsure. Anyone defending briana’s behavior is not thinking all the way through and or doesn’t have children because if so then you’d clearly see that Briana is getting back at mom because she felt brooks was chosen over her. No child would put their mother in jeopardy especially if there mother is still giving them some level of support financially.
I don’t think ANY of these women came out looking good and the fact that it was so focused on vicki proves they have very little to offer.
Shannon thought her marriage rehab was going to be a big story line (FAIL)
Meghan thought her being a “great” stepmom was a big story line (FAIL)
Tamra thought people were dumb enough to by into her act (FAIL)
Heather she’s just there. She never really has a great storyline but she’s legit rich (semi win)
Vicki did acknowledge some lies and embellishments but it’s clear that she now questions things more than she did while filming but is smart enough to know not to say definitively one way or the other.
Vicki will be fine and ultimately at most people will speculate whether she was in on it or not but will never have proof that brooks is faking and vicki was aware the whole time.
They say love is blind…
Vicky gave up so much to be with Brooks, she wanted to (& almost had to) believe him. The last thing she wanted to admit was being “duped”. To her that equates to not being “a smart woman”.
Vicki loved Brooks. Do I think he has cancer? I can’t prove yes or no. Do I think Vicki was in an abusive relationship with him? Yes. Look how she allowed her “best” friends and daughter walk all over her because she loved them. Vicki likes to give and fix things. Look how she helped Shannon last year. Look at all she does for her daughter and grandchildren. She has her faults and at times I think she is a mean bitch. but she can be generous to a fault if you become her friend. She also exaggerates. Don’t we all?
All of those women, with the exception of Tamra and Brianna liked Brooks. They didn’t understand the hate. Shannon was the BFF as long as it was all about her. I hate Shannon. That lunch with Vicki still breaks my heart.
Brianna and Tamra are jealous.
I think Brooks is probably a man who uses women. Certainly his exes have nothing good to say about him. I also think he can be charming as hell. We see the sleeze edit too. I don’t think he wants to flash his dick to his girlfriend’s daughter.
Pancreatitis is serious. People do die from it. Brooks could have gotten it from a chemo treatment and Vicki thought it was pancreatic cancer. (my speculation)
Agree 100%.
I hope Vicki leaves this troup of troublemakers in her dust. Whether one or both of Vicki or Brooks lied or not, I would give my friend support. If I distrusted them on this issue I would be hurt and just not say anything. Everyone has their reasons for doing things. It is not your place to try to fix them. Either supoort them or go away.
I think if Vicki left this show, she could find a good man. I think a guy of quality wouldn’t want to be involved with a mature woman appearing on this shit show.
Shannon, the “best friend you ever had” who gas known Vicki all of 2 years, wins the prize for most disgusting person. Winning over Tamra makes her real special.
Vicki putting up with these women, her daughter, and producers, proves she has issues with tolerating abuse from people close to her. She did not fight back at all like she used to. These women kept kicking her when she was down with grief. They were concerned with being right, not with Vicki’s well being.
If your friend lied to you to garner sympathy you would be hurt and not say anything? That doesn’t seem like a very solid friendship. I’m not saying you should abandon your friend, but if I found out my good friend told me lies to get my sympathy/support, I would def need to speak with her about it. As her friend I deserve not to be lied to, and in return, she would always have had my support/compassion regardless. It’s not good to lose trust in a friendship and not say anything about it.
I do believe Heather and Shannon were concerned for Vicki’s well being, because they handled themselves quite differently from Meghan and Tamra, who I think were just being dramatic.
But trauma or not, it’s not ok as a friend to lie to get sympathy, that’s abusing the friendships. It can be forgiven, but it’s not ok.
Co-sign, shae!
I would handle it privately. I would not say anything on camera to put a friend in an embarrassing position. If I had doubts, needed proof, whatever, I would not badger a friend to get it. If someone doesn’t want to share medical details, I feel I should accept that. It is on me to decide if I will go along with that.
We were not shown or told this was a ploy for sympathy until the reunion. I can easier live with being used for sympathy than me cutting, mocking, or badgering someone or their loved one for their medical records that may really be sick. Why are they all so interested anyway? They don’t trust Brooks, so what. Take care of your own house.
To Dawn, you have to be a little fair in that they are paid to do this stuff on camera. In all the series there are things that normally I think they would walk away leave an event and let the issue die a natural death. Viki herself would just be able to avoid Megan all together but could not do that because she was on the show. Now… there are ones that I still say shame on you for behaving that way… Meghan s research for instance over the line. Shannon not dropping the issue at lunch was another. I think I have said that forced to play this out… I would have taken Heathers approach more than anything.
Well Tamra did say “it’s a scripted reality show” when it came to defended herself against her daughter & Simon & how she’s paid to bring “it”.
To think there’s countless hours of footage sitting on the cutting room floor but The Powers That Be thought this would be entertaining! ?
Ugh… I am not defending Tamra, the original researcher.
But ultimately on these shows, you are not afforded the luxury of going good home and letting an issue die a natural death. In many ways, I do get why Heather wanted the Terry helping Brooks get an I.V. rumor squashed on the show… it had the potential to blow up in real life, not just on the show.
I can’t watch this show anymore. These women are nuts! I believe brooks tho. I think that Vickie misspoke a lot. I think it frustrates him. Either way, there’s no reason for these women to treat her this way. This is so vile. I literally fast forward through all scenes with brianna but I had to look at her at all the reunions uhg! She is disgusting. Tamara is so narcissistic I can’t take it! Hate Shannon and Meghan too! These women are nuts and so is brianna. I think that Vickie is only saying she questions him now is because he dumped her and the others have been in her ear. He’s gone and now she’s got nothing to lose if she just says she thinks he faked it to get them off her ass. I’ll never watch this show again.
Damn……..y’all crazy as hell. I can’t stop giggling.
The rationalizations, hypocrisy and “blame the messenger” deflections on this thread are HILARIOUS – some of most myopic shit I’ve read all year. I dunno what’s worse – fake outrage or fake cancer. You people stick together though – that’s for sure. Carry on, children, carry on.
Meanwhile, Vicki and Brooks lied their asses off the entire season, and I was thoroughly entertained by the sleuths and the suspects. Tamra’s fake salvation was a barrel of laughs too.
Mable Lean…….
Why can’t you be true?
Aaannnnd you just made me spit out a perfectly respectable mouthful of Pinot Noir – damn you.
Google is a God. I never knew that song!
At any rate, you should be asking Vicki and Brooks to be true. They are the two hoes that lied. LOLOLOL!!!!
Oh, Maisey, you are so funny.
I love me some Maisey!
I see what you did there with the Chuck Berry song.
Maisey! Always a little ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. I appreciate your mischievous sense of humor.
I concur. Many of Maisey’s comments should come with a warning – “Don’t drink or eat while reading”.
I’m sure this will sound cuckoo but I kind of feel for Vicki. It looks to me that early on, when she & Donn decided to divorce, Vicki probably felt like she had to come out the other side of the divorce a “winner at all costs.” She had really ran rough-shod over her whole family; ordering the kids around, making the money and lording it over them, constantly putting Donn in his place in public.
It’s like her decision to be with Brooks had to be right and she’d do whatever, including lying by omission, to make it appear like the right decision. Otherwise, her role as Top Bitch OG would be no more.
You’re not alone in that view SPK. I also don’t think she can admit to having made any mistakes be it Brooks or something else.
And I suspect that TT is right- Vicki had no storyline, OC needed one, Brook’s “treatment” if there ever was one- or Bravo’s understanding of his “cancer” was that he was “better” and recovered, if it ever existed. Bravo probably pushed Vicki and Brooks to use it for the season, as if it was new. So both V and B went along with it- and V did what she needed to, in order to make it seem current.
It appears to me that, from day one, Shannon has been a hypochondriac of epic proportion who has tried everything and “has CT’s all the time” – and has used her money to get to prominent doctors in the area.
Many people who have been seriously ill or had it in their families take the diagnosis of “cancer” deeply seriously and I bet at the beginning Shannon did just as she said to get Vicki the help she was asking for- just to help a friend. But then her ego got into it when the facts raised questions and he didn’t take advantage of the help she provided. Who knows whether he didn’t want Vicki to get the help – it sounded like he never saw a real oncologist during the period because he knew it was either not a current story or never was true- but my strong suspicion is there is enough blame to go around on all sides, Bravo included.
My guess is that Shannon meant well to begin with, Brianna has always seen through the Hallmark card named Brooks , Heather was trying to provide facts when asked for them, and that the others’ emotions got involved for personal reasons which led to pure emotional responses- all of which may have begun trying to help. They let it get to them, personalized it, and off they went.
Meanwhile, what happened last night to the revelations Brooks was supposed to have made during the interview which led Vicki to agree to break up?
I am very sorry for Vicki – mostly because she has been lost and made terrible choices for a very long time. These pathetic attempts to seek compassion show how lost and lonely she is- as did her first decisions to ever trust a word out of Brook’s mouth.
But I still suspect that TT is right and there has been manipulation of the facts from day one, all to create an OC storyline. The end result is that Andy has won again-, he has created a special about the interview of that lying con man who should never have been on the show.
One of the ways Bravo uses the series is to show what lousy choices women can make, and their consequences. This is just one taken to an extreme. The shame is enough to be spread on just about all, but if they did agree to present a story that was not true to begin with, Vicki and Brooks deserve what they got, in my mind. Anyone who abuses/exaggerates a cancer diagnosis, in my mind, gets what they deserve, because there have been far too many lives permanently damaged/destroyed by it, and it prompts so many to rush to try to help, or have reactions based on their own histories , which may be very painful. Everything else that happens flows from that, and it takes a very callus person to lie about those facts- hoping to get a reaction but indifferent to the impact it might have on those involved on the way.
@Sabrina….agree with you on Shannon. She meant well, wanted to help then….I don’t think it was necessarily her ego but she started suspecting all what not as it seems. I live in the OC, Hoag is my hospital and Newport Imaginng does my mammo and other things couple times a year. I had melanoma 20 years ago (I’m ok) and all my reports from Imaging to Oncology from Hoag (inclusive of Newport Imaging) use exactly the same template Shannon showed and have for 20+ years and I get copies of all these docs for my personal records. I would say that unless that document came from the specific Dr’s office in my experience it did not come from a Hoag testing facility as results .
You described Vickie really well. I think she did feel competitive about her post divorce love life, if she was with Brooks and Donn didnt have someone at the time. She boasted about that. Thats common. Tamra secured a husband right away. I still remember Vickie looking sad and envious at their wedding extravaganza. Its hard to start over like she has, and there are no guarantees , none at all, that you’ll find someone to love you. You definatly cant make your marriage work if you’re having affairs though. Everyday married life cant match up, against a hot illicit affair that doesnt involve bills and dirty laundry.
TT, a CAT scan and CT scan are basically the same thing. A CAT/CT scan is vastly different than a PET scan – which one who has cancer would know (CT scan just shows organs and abnormalities like kidney stones or tumors, but a PET scan is taken after being given radio active chemicals that would make cancer light up like a Christmas tree). Nonetheless, Brooks recently claiming his lymphoma was downgraded from stage 3 to stage 2 is what really was enough for me since there’s no such thing as changing stages. The stage is a grade given upon diagnosis and never changes. Never. You think he’d at least use Google to figure these things out. Also, a CAT scan wouldn’t prove or disprove cancer. The biopsy would- and that’s the document you’d show. Fun fact: the doctor filmed reviewing the “CT Scan” works with Vicki on Club Detox. I think Vicki is a lot more sinister than being credit for, and *thats* what makes me so crazy!!
I haven’t watched much of this season, and only watched reunion part 3. Its enough already. I need a xanibar now.
My husband, mother, mother-in-law and sister-in-law all died from cancer. I was not aware that cancer cannot be downgraded. I did Gooogle it and you are so right! What you say about CAT/CT and PET scans and having a biopsy to determine cancer, I did know. It is interesting about the doctor and Club Detox. Thanks for the information, Shay.
JB: I am so so sorry for your many lost loved ones. Cancer is such a fucked up thing. (And crazy fucked up to lie about it for any reason– But for a tv storyline? To gain sympathy? To make money on Club Detox?!) It is so offensive to me. I mentioned it before, but my “best friend” lied about having cancer and used me and my ex-husband to fund vacations for her, time off work, countless tears and middle of the night phone calls about whether or not it would come back or spread! I found out 10 years later, during this season of OC. I haven’t watched for a couple of years, but I felt what her friends were going through. Once you have been through a similar experience it’s really hard to find sympathy for the offending party. Bravo wouldn’t let you be a fulltime housewife if you didn’t have a juicy storyline? Lizzy seamed to manage. Vicki doesn’t need the money, her business didn’t need the tv exposure, her relationships would only improve… no reason to have brought it up.
Brooks is a lazy liar. He didn’t have to work too hard since Vicki bought all his xxxx. Brooks talking to Andy in an angry tone because the other ladies didn’t believe him. Brooks lies easily. He told Andy that he would talk to Terri yet he wouldn’t speak to the Shannon referral because new one ‘production messed up dates’ surprised Andy didn’t call him on that and he had two flat tires.
I would have hitched a ride to get to a doctor for a possible cure if my life was at risk. Brooks is a lazy liar, period.
HIPAA protects patients medical information and location in the hospital, but doctors/hospitals can confirm if the patient is/has been treated.
That is not entirely true. HIPPA says that a doctor or hospital can only confirm that a patient has received treatment , if the patient or legal guardian signs a consent for release of information, for a specific person(s). Although in this case, the doctor neighbor friend of Heather, is saying Brooks was never his patient , so HIPPA doesn’t apply but feels hinky that he even commented on it to Dubrow’s.
Wrong-o. If your boyfriend was in an accident and you didn’t know where the ambulance took him you can call around to hospitals who can/will confirm if they are being treated. And if someone isn’t a patient, yes you can say they aren’t a patient. Source: my mom was a doctor for 42 years at a trauma one center.
This was a shit show through and through with everybody stepping in it and everybody getting spattered. Shame on you, Andy for peddling such disgusting crap!
I penned the above without seeing these- they reinforce the point. While their reactions may have been inappropriate or selfish, my belief is the others were lied to.
My Comcast Bravo station continued to list this as Part 3 2013 Reunion. I did record it, but what was listed was inaccurate.
I’ll put money on Vicki hooking up with Brroks again. It’s a sad commentary when women would rather be with a loser just so they are not alone.
I’m going through something similar with a family member. She has allowed a guy to move into her home after dating for less than six (6) weeks. He has lied to her about the number of times his been married. The number is five (5) & he told her four (4). She is desperate, lonely, & suffers from low self esteem. However, it’s sad.
On another note, I had such high hopes for Vicki after her Mother died. My brother who’s name is Billy found our Mother in her home. She has suffered a massive stroke at 5:00 AM & he found her at 4:00 PM. She died 24 weeks later. So, the phone between Vicki & Billy certainly brought back those memories as my name is Victoria (Vicki).
I NEVER Thai would agree with Brandi but she said it right on Twitter. Vicki was dickmatized by Brooks. So whatever he said she agreed with.
I can’t wait for lizzie and Vicki to come back hopefully with a new housewife or the return of alexis or gretchen because tamra is just as shady as brooks, meghan will do anything to take the heat off of her and shannon is crazy and they are using her as a pawn to do things they wouldn’t. Her E! segment about vicki and not her own life was despicable.
I can’t wait for them to turn on Shannon next season. I’m sure she will fly completely over the cuckoo’s nest.
When Heather was screaming *he must have something on you* I was shocked the Vicki’s Vodka debacle wasn’t brought up.
I didn’t see Heather getting Botox or Fillers; I wasn’t in the same room, I didn’t see the needles go in.
But I know she’s LYING when she says she’s not had work done and that she’s au natural!
I don’t give a rat’s arse whether Brooks is lying or not, but I DO know that these women have tonight shown their true selves, colors and all. And it ain’t a pretty sight.
Vindictive, shallow, fame-hungry, over-botoxed and over-filled, narcissistic, wretched, shrieking shrews. I will forever be glad to never watch them again.
They wouldn’t know the definition of being a true friend if they had a freaking dictionary in their wrinkled, spotted hands.
*It is LEGALLY no one’s business what the state of someone’s health is. Practitioners are NOT allowed to divulge medical information on a patient to ANYONE unless they have specific permission to do so. Even, Heather, if said Practitioner lives down the street from you.
I agree the doctor would not have answered Heather’s question. Theses women are unbelievable. If Vicky is taking that much Xanax like Briana said she is in trouble.
I am sure Heather probably said one of my friends is your patient and really likes you and her neighbor probably said i ‘m not treating him.
But if the person is not their patient, I’m fairly certain they can say “this person is not my patient”. There can’t be a dr patient confidentiality when there is no doctor or patient relationship in place.
Shae, that is correct. The doctor saying that is not may patient isn’t violating any laws.
My opinion: Brooks is a liar. Vicki is a liar. How complicit Vicki was, I don’t know. IF Brooks has cancer, it’s Karma for the previous times he faked it. I think his anger came through in his interview with Andy and it was telling. Vicki needs some grief counseling. I am also left wondering what Vicki is really like when cameras are not around.
Tamara I agree with you on the Xanax I take .24 used to be .50. If she is taking that much it will affect her memory. That makes sense why her stories change. I feel really sorry for her to have a daughter like that who would tell anyone. So sad Don’t they all drink too? Surprised it doesn’t knock her out
This is how my friend died of liver and kidney failure.
I am sorry for your loss Shay.
Thanks, 5cats. I had mentioned it vaguely on a lamar odom post, but when I see people talk about (or watch people on tv like brandi) mix xanax and alcohol like it’s no big deal it makes me cringe. My friend did it often. He “knew his limits.” He suffered around 400 days and once he found organ matches he was too weak and died. Please, people, follow instructions on your prescription bottles and don’t lie to your doctors about what or how much you need something.
Most people think they are invincible to everything. They also think if one works two works better. Also nothing shocks doctors and nurses; we’ve seen it all.
I hope my story might prevent someone here, or someone they know, from hurting themselves. People need to eat some medical grade thc and stop fucking around with shit that can kill them!
People also think because it is over the counter, it won’t hurt them. We used to get babies with chicken pox that were O.D.’d on benadryl because the parents gave them benadryl syrup for itching and rubbed them with benadryl lotion.
Shay I am sincerely sorry for your loss. When Xanax first came out I don’t think people understood how dangerous it could be. So sorry
I don’t know if Brooks has cancer or if Yolanda has Lyme’s, but I am not a fan of disease as a story line. It’s boring.
Thank you! Disease as a story line is indeed boring.
5 mgs of xanax???!!! Holy crap. I’d be drooling on the floor.
Tamra is the only one who makes Tamra look like a piece of shit. I hate that woman. Not love to hate, HATE.
I don’t often say that about people but absolutely feel the same way about Tamra. My reaction to her has been like one, long protracted cringe since she appeared on the show.
What’s up with people writing “stans” at the end of things- “Vicki stans” “Kate stans”?? I thought typo until I saw it here also. What is that??
^^^^
This! Yes! I don’t get the “stans” thing either. Someone enlighten us, please!
Just guessing here about the stans, but could it relate to the notion that countries ending in stans used to be part of the old USSR and would fall in line with the party?
I could be wrong, but isn’t it a combination of “stalker” and “fan”?
@lisamia. asfaik, the term stan comes from Eminem’s “Stan,” which was about a crazy stalker fan.
Thanks, wistful. I my theory was a little too convoluted. 🙂
Stan=Stalker+fan
Stalker + fan makes more sense than my commie theory. 🙂
From Urban Dictionary: “Based on the central character in the Eminem song of the same name, a “stan” is an overzealous maniacal fan for any celebrity or athlete.”
Who knew? Not I.
Interesting. Thanks all.
?The More You Know?
@lisamia, your commie theory was fun though
Thanks, Miss Missy :).
Andy’s interview with Brooks was unnerving. That is an abusive, manipulative, vindictive man. You can see he’s dropped the sweet facade and he just doesn’t give a shit. I’ve seen that combative/nasty look in a man’s eyes before, I believe the verbal abuse. I always thought he was sketchy as hell, I just chose to give him benefit of the doubt with something as serious as cancer.
But wow, Vicki had her gut feelings for months that he was full of it and tried to keep it quiet. Deflect by making the ladies the bad ones. I get it, when a man has you wrapped up like that, you’re scared of him, he’s isolating you from everyone, etc. you band aid what you can and you’re not thinking straight. This actually made me feel worse for Vicki because I know how insane an abusive man can make a woman, even a smart woman. She was not equipped to handle him on top of the loss of her mother, I think she felt she was in too deep defending him and couldn’t admit she, too, had her doubts.
She let him bully her, and yes she wasn’t fair to the ladies, but some of the ladies weren’t fair to her either. For sure. I think she handled herself well, though. Whether it was the xanax or just her, she handled a bad situation gracefully.
Brooks is a scumbag. Everything is someone else’s fault, briana’s, vicki’s, the ladies’, his vindictive ex gfs, etc. Never his. That’s a pattern and I so uncomfy watching him. His demeanor is just scary. Glad for Vicki that he’s gone and hopefully she can heal herself and her relationships and move on to a better place.
Really good take on situation, thanks
I wonder if he was on something to make him so edgy, aggressive, twitchy….
Brooks makes my skin crawl. I’ve always found him to be yucky, but listening to his tone of voice during his interview with Andy was sickening.
A lot more was revealed than I thought would be in part III: not only that Vicki conceded what her gut has been telling her but the discussion about the past lying about cancer and related manipulations. (Was all of this known? I’ve lost track of Girth Brooks’s lies.) Vicki was more honest and a touch more introspective than I thought she’d be; and her silence in the face of much of what Brianna alleged says a lot. I don’t think it’s just that she was pharmaceutically numb, but that she’s moving out of the canyon of denial.
If Vicki remains on the show (does anyone see her giving it up?), it would be nice to see her reflect on her inability to be alone. That could help lots of people.
Vicki is the Grande Dame of the OC; the show wouldn’t be the same without her. Her so-called friends attacked her endlessly, which was uncomfortable to watch. With friends like that……. Andy, you should have called off the dogs early and moved on to another topic.
I felt badly for Vickie while watching the reunion show. I know she said and did much worse to all of her cast mates except for Heather. I just have to remind myself that she is reaping what she deserves, and then I have second thoughts, if he really was abusing her… I just hate to see a gang up on anyone even though they may deserve it. I am assuming that there is just something so wrong with her wiring.
i woke up this morning with a kind of emotional hang over from watching that reunion last night.
I feel bad for Vicki on so many different levels. Yep, she sure has her own faults and she willingly magnified them over many seasons.
But to watch her be ganged up on was just too much. And to witness the charge lead by her own daughter was sickening.
I don’t take these people, or this show—–or much of anything—too seriously. I like to keep it carefree and easy going.
But, oh, that was sad.
I was married for 24 years, and before that I always had a boyfriend. I was terrified, when I found myself single. I started on line dating like a maniac. After a year of it, I realized that if I was to grow and become a strong healthy human being, I’d need some time on my own. At first it was so difficult, but after a few months, I loved it. I knew who I was. I was content in my own skin and I could go anywhere without answering to anyone. When I met my boyfriend, I made it very clear that to give up my new found freedom would be a huge sacrifice and he would have to show me he was worth it. It’s been seven years and he’s a sweetheart, so he’s still around. However, I won’t live with him. I still need time where I am on my own. What I hope for Vicky, is she can have that kind of an epiphany. That would be a great story line for next season and would help a lot of people who feel they can’t be happy unless they are a couple.
Sadly, I don’t think Vicki is anywhere near ready for that kind of introspection and work on herself. For the last ten years, Vicki has never responded well when people held a mirror up to her and say “the things you criticize me for, you do”. When asked “so you lied?” her response was that she fabricated it. Um, what?
Wonderful guys, esp. in early 2008 when the economy tanked, sometimes get behind in child support. I am not saying I think Slade is wonderful – but he has so many icky flaws to pick on besides child support – which I suspect he got behind on because of the bottom dropping out in real estate (his source of income) while his son incurred astronomical medical bills. While I am not sure what Brooks really does for a living, he could have had similar circumstances. Instead of saying “you know, I was wrong. I was viewing it as a former single mom, now I see the other side. I’m sorry”, she kept insisting it was “different”. Yup.. Brooks’ kids luckily don’t have a brain tumor and therefore aren’t as expensive.
While I still hated the primary storyline of cancer this season, and thought Megan and Tamra were absolute shit stirrers with no excuses for their behaviors, Vicki, with her fabrications, has some culpability in how this season went. I don’t trust that Megan and Tamra would do it without some ulterior motive, I suspect that if Vicki had called Shannon and/or Heather and just simply said “I’m really struggling emotionally. I need a casserole” she would have gotten hugs and casseroles.
Ok… maybe just from Heather. Shannon went skitzo at that lunch.
That’s wonderful, Erica. 🙂
Words of wisdom, Lisamia.
Thanks, Margarett 🙂
Sorry, I meant Lisamia. I misread 🙂
🙂 Thanks Shae
Lisamia: always love your contributions. If only you could sit next to some of these ladies on a plane (captive audience, etc).
Thanks, Shay! I would love to have a long chat with Vicky. Flawed as she is, she’s an interesting person. She reminds me a lot of my mother (who also tends to exaggerate to make a better story), and I see a lot of me in her–both the good and the bad.
Vicki has incredibly low self-esteem despite her accomplishments. People on various blogs and websites have been extremely critical and cruel to Vicki over the years regarding her physical appearance, calling her Miss Piggy, fat, etc. which led to her seeking multiple plastic surgeries. It appears that she desperately needs the constant reassurance of a man to accept herself as a worthy human being. Brooks has been despicable to her recently by texting that he has found one or more new girlfriends, which erodes her self-esteem even further because it seems she has been easily replaced and their relationship was not as serious as she thought. I hope that she has the strength to stop texting or calling him and take her time before embarking on a new romance.
By the way, I can’t believe there will be ANOTHER Brooks Ayers tell-all on November 12th. How long can Andy Cohen milk this story? I am done.
Maisey, I know what you mean. I usually will watch the reunion shows a few times each On Demand but I just can’t with this one. It was as bad if not worse than the Lisa Vanderpump gang up on RHOBH a couple of seasons ago. And just like he did then, Andy seems to be against the person being raked over the coals and on the side of the bitches leading the witch hunt. He really is a sadistic prick. Aargh, it’s going to take awhile to get this one out of my system.
i realize that this is a vikki admiration society website,but come on!!!a lot of folks here have been going along with vikki and brooks story
even though it was obviously fabricated,and now that the truth is coming out,you still back her up?? what do you see in that self centered delusional woman thats likeable?her daughter leaves,its about vikki,her mother dies,its about vikki,tamra gets baptized it becomes about vikki( and her crucifixion,no less lol)i always tune in hoping that she once again,gets bopped on the head with a wet football…
Um her daughter moving IS about Vikki. Her mother died IS about Vikki, Everyone screaming at her at the baptism, IS about VIkki.
remember when Vickie was taking Brina to the hospital for her surgery and the whole car ride Vickie only discussed what this meant to her life. Way to comfort your child.
God, that was the best! Donna cracked up at that, as I recall. And all of these folks calling Vicki smart. Get outta here, lol!
Yes, Vicki was caught in lies, but for goodness sakes she lost her mom this season…I’m guessing she was numb after that and just putting in the motions to survive. These harpies wouldn’t even acknowledge the loss and kept berating her. I have never been much of a Vicki supporter, but sheesh cut the lady some slack. They all want to be queen bee, but you can’t dethrone the OG of the entire franchise. Tamra wants to throw her under bus bc her true colors were finally called out last year…Tamra has been trash since Jeana first introduced her on show, cannot stand her.
I think anyone who befriends/trusts Tamra at this point deserves what they get. How many times does someone have to show their true colors before people learn?
So if Vicki told Tamra years ago that Brooks at that time said he had pancreatic cancer, why wasn’t there “investigating” then – instead of ganging up on her with several other judgmental types years later? And who tells other people they are going to hell???!!! Such judgment – that is truly the most sickening — the gang-up mentality and the judging.
I think a person lying about having cancer while simultaneously verbally and (supposedly physically abusing) their partner is the most disgusting/sickening thing.
Briana did “investigate” then, by questioning Brooks directly and lo and behold he admitted to her he only had pancreatitis not pancreatic cancer.
I think the issue came up again with a vengeance years later because Brooks claimed to have cancer yet again and a lot of what he was saying/doing, etc. didn’t add up. Add that to the fact his statements didn’t jive with Vicki’s + his history of a very casual relationship with the truth and questionable run-ins with Briana, etc…yea, people ultimately doubted him. I don’t agree with Meghan’s level of involvement, but if I was a friend of Vicki’s like Shannon or Heather who genuinely cared for her, and I saw this shit going down, I’d have questions and be concerned.
I think the only judgments she’s facing is because she was so hostile to the ladies for even doubting or asking questions- when she knew herself, things were fishy. she called them horrible friends, disgusting, etc. when she knew their questions were def not baseless. At least not Shannon’s or Heather’s, Meghan and Tamra are just gross and I don’t blame Vicki for being hostile to either of them. Meghan’s comment about hell was just stupid, but stupid is as stupid does and well, Meghan lol
When I think about the level at which Vicki reacts to being called out it makes me pause. The “I’m being nailed to the cross” was as over-the-top as screaming “I’ve never had multiple partners in my life.” Perhaps, when she is trying to deflect things about herself that she knows to be true, but that she does not want to face, screeching and acting like an idiot is her defense mechanism.
I think next season this show will morph into The Real Housewives of Saddleback Church. Born Again Tamra will give Cardio with Christ classes at CUT Fitness. Heather will be proven right when Brooks releases a porn video entitled “Love Tank – Girth Brooks Fills Vicki’s Voracious Vagina”. Scandal ensues. Meghan launches an investigation into whether Vicki was complicit in the release of said video. Shannon perfects her nasally protestations of outrage.
OMG, I just thought of something do you think they did a sex tape and that is what he has on her?
Not likely. I was just being cheeky.
Hmmmmm
I have never commented before but this is something I feel strongly about.I have been an avid housewife fan from the beginning and as the shows have progressed and the women become more “celebrity” the shows seemed to keep getting dumb and dumber.
Brianna repeats over and over again how Brooks told her husband to beat her. I have heard the tape as have many others and Brooks was obviously drinking, slurring his words and overall fucked up. This does not mean he wanted Brianna’s husband to beat her anymore than he hit on her when she was pregnant or wanted to show her his “wee wee”.
This was by far the worst season ever in Housewife history even worse than ATL which was really bad. Everything those women accused Vicki of doing they were doing themselves. Shannon makes everything about her. She is a true fame whore who is a little off on the real world. Tamara saying Vicki made her look bad, she is the one that started with the psychic.
The entire season of the question of Brooks cancer was based on a psychic who Tamara asked. Who does that? If you go to a psychic how would they pick up in Brooks he wasn’t in the room. Tamara said the psychic that came to Vicki’s after her mother died was bad because he could not identify a tattoo, but her psychic can pick up on someone they never met and wasn’t there.
The list of wrongs go on and on I for one am just sad that what was once fun to watch has become what this season and reunion became
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Hey, I just posted a comment on the most recent HWOC, and it said I’d said the same things before. Not true. What’s going on?
I’ve read as much of the comments as I had patience for, and I realize I don’t like Vickie and never did. I have always thought she was a hypocrite, and her behavior this season proved she is one. I’m a recent widow, so I can understand Vickie’s fear of being alone. Also, for several years before my husband died, he was constantly involved with doctors and hospitals, and because he was, I was. Vickie’s ignorance about Brooke’s condition tells me there was no “condition”. If this was a man I loved, I’d have been at every doctor’s appointment, every chemo treatment, etc. I knew every step my husband took, every disappointing treatment and result, every pain, every medication, every mood, every tear. Vickie and Brooke were colluding to create a story for filming, so that there would be something interesting to watch. I watch certain HW shows, and certain ones I don’t watch any more(New Jersey, Atlanta), and I watch them only for their entertainment value. No one actually lives as these women portray themselves, it’s all scripted and made up. And, when your mother dies, you don’t put on a performance. If you do, it’s to get attention.
Sorry for your loss, Wirelessmom. I think vicki played ignorance for plausible deniability. The fact that she was on social media claiming club detox cured cancer makes that null and void. Also, this so-called binder of every medical record and appointment she made.. she never read ONE piece of paper? Why would she need him to show her the binder SHE made?
I’m sure to be creating enemies with this post but here are my feelings…I lost my father,
stepfather, cousin and uncle to cancer during a 15 month period. At the same time my aunt and best friend were going thru chemo. That being said, it never should have used as a story line. I don’t feel so badly for Vickie. I don’t like Briana one bit and think Brooks and Vickie deserve each other. I’m tired of women playing victim when they victimize themselves. I work in a male dominated field and women like Vickie do us no favors. Behavior like hers is what gives men in the business world the idea that we women cannot be level headed due to our emotions and that we are unable to make good decisions because we cannot think rationally when our emotions come into play. I’m tired of folks in this world giving others free passes for bad behavior and making excuses for weakness. Vickie is typical of so many women whose self worth is defined by having a man. They will throw out their better sense of judgement if the orgasm is good. It does a diservice to us all. We have turned into a nation of victims and personal accountability seems rare these days.
Looking solely at the highly edited clips of Brooks’ interview shown on the reunion, he comes off as Shady McShaderson. I think he embellishes. A lot. But he would have to be a complete moron to make up a cancer story out of nothing. There’s something there, but he’s manipulated everyone so much it’s hard to figure out what’s true.
I just want to know what happened after filming this that made all the ladies, especially Tamra,hate Vicki so much. Right after filming Tamra was still being nice to Vicki. And then it all got turned around and everyone hates Vicki! What did we miss.? Other than the fact that theses ladies are all assholes who can’t be bothered to make a damn casserole but instead would decide to become cancer detectives.
@Tamara, That’s what I wanted to know as well. Tamra was with Vicki when she was on WWHL which was filmed before the reunion but after the season had finished filming, so yeah, what happened.
I also agree about Andy being an asshole to Vicki regarding being medicated. He sure loves kicking you when you’re down. I thought he liked Vicki, but he sure didn’t act like it during the reunion.
Also I’d like to point out that Andy was an asshole for asking if Vicki was on anything. We all know Teresa Giudice was drugged and sedated at her last reunion and I don’t remember Andy asking her about it!
I feel sad that there are so many women (and a few guys as well) who are looking at Vickie as though she’s a victim of Brooks. She is a victim of her own delusions and orgasms. I’m completely tired of the victim mentality and the passes that are given to folks for their piss poor behavior and lack of personal accountability. I work in a male dominated field and its women like Vickie who help perpetuate the notion we are unable to make good decisions because we are emotional and weak. As a former victim of childhood sexual abuse, I believe she is the type of woman who would look the other way while her man abuses someone else. She never denied what Briana had to say at the reunion. That being said, I don’t like Briana very much either. It also makes me sad that so many folks here think Vickie is a victim of someone other than herself. That kind of thinking tells me that lack of self reflection is excusable regardless of who it damages. If everyone is a victim, there is no one to blame and no personal accountability to be taken. I’m really disappointed.
I agree100% with your assessment above. Hey Vicki, have any cheese to go with that whine? I know 10 yr. Olds with more sense than than this lady.
What a clusterfuck. The only clear conclusion I can come to after watching this reunion is that being on a reality show for 10 years fucks with your head. And that this greek chorus fancies themselves friends instead of the fiends they are.
I am ticked that Meghan’s outrageous detective work got lost in the debate over “Does he or doesn’t he?” No one called her out on her crazy investigation. She tried to contact former girlfriends, for heaven’s sake! Meghan got a fly because everyone was piling on Vicki.
Maybe I’m extra sensitive because my Mom, who visited me for 9 days, just went home, but I would never allow anyone to yell at my Mom and treat her the way they did, whether she was right or wrong. Brianna is such a miserable cunt.
@DCDeity, Yeah, what happened to the Bianna who yelled out “if anyone messes with my mom, it’s on!”? This was at the end of the finale of season 7 (?) where Tamra throws wine a Jenna Keough at Vicki’s backyard party.
I might be wrong about it being the finale, just to clarify!
Brooks and Vicki absolutely disgust me, and I’m sick of icky Vickis poor me crap. They’re disgusting people.
1. I have cancer. I’ve been fighting for a very long time so it hits hard, especially when it’s seeing someone lie about it.
2. If anyone questioned me, I’d invite them with me, or show a VALID document/scan. I wouldn’t go to a friend of a group and show some crap paper, and then say now please say you saw proof and believe. If you chose one person, why wouldn’t it be heather/terry who is a doctor? Oh that’s right… Because lying.
3. She was COVERING for his lies with her own lies. She made up so much crap herself. Where’s the organized notebook? if you had any inkling someone you’re with was lying about that, why wouldn’t you find out? Hurt and scared aside any good person would never associate with someone like that.
4. I’m not saying I agree with what a lot of the women did, but please. Vicki is no victim. She’s just as bad for covering wit clear evidence there was something off with his cancer story.
I feel so bad for Vicki. She owned her mistakes (which might be a housewives franchise first – good for her!) is grieving the death of her mother, has realized she ruined her marriage for a douchebag, and is being relentlessly attacked by a group of heathens, including her own daughter. I really hope she comes through this. Love her warts and all.
On a lighter note, the highlight of the reunion for me was the detailed rehash of mr. Beador inspecting his wife’s bunghole for a nozzle that ended up in the toilet. Ahh marital bliss.
There was more blood spilled in this reunion than on the Walking Dead last night. It’s pretty scary when housewives are more vicious than zombies…
And from what I’ve seen, Lady C, the Zombies have better looking hair extensions.
and make up.
I STILL want to see Nene in a cameo on that show. Full walker makeup, stringy blonde hair, and big teeth gnashing at the air…but not saying a word.
Dear Heather:
You were a total bore and had absolutely nothing to suggest an interesting story this season. Also, your reunion dress looked cheap.
So there.
I live in one of the largest cities in the US but hail from a small town of about 2000. Someone in my hometown community was recently faking cancer, and it did not get proven until recently when her medical records were able to be subpoenaed in a child custody suit . In Texas, the best interest of the child is paramount and they will allow for medical records to be subpoenaed when determining that issue. so the woman faking cancer for the last two years, with the town had given her money with go fund me or some similar account, finally admitted that shedid not have cancer. People were in shock, she had gone as far as to have her head shaved when she was “getting chemo” to take charge of her life so that she could be in charge of when her hair came out. A nurse friend of mine had suspected that, and I was in shock that she even said so a year ago . She kept telling me she looked too healthy to have cancer. anyway my main point is several people in town had taken her to have chemo and sat out in the waiting room, God knows what she did when she was back there ? read magazines or who knows what ….. Those people that really do and no they were not her husband or anybody that could benefit from lying for her they were just very credible people in the community, which I can only assume is why she allowed or asked them to take her.
How these women not feel for Vicki after she admitted she was afraid of Brooks? Yes she is a smart woman but felt regret not following her heart for Brooks and was manipulated and abused.
I’ve watched this show from the very beginning and now I’m done. Women berating and belittling other women at its finest. And all in the name of Christianity and Truth. Still shaking my head nd embarrassed by these ‘women’ as I delete RHOC so as never to record or watch it again.
A Xanax bar (or Xanibar) is 2mg not 10mg.