I debated whether to post this information or not. After many of you sent my copies of Sidney’s Facebook post, and wanted to discuss it, and after several major sites carried the story, I decided it was already out there and if you guys want to talk about it we can.
When all of this drama started two years ago, I gave Tamra Judge the benefit of the doubt. If we all think back to the horrible teenaged years, I think we will all have some regrets about our conversations with our own mothers. I certainly would not want mine replayed on the Internet. Teenaged girls can be awful in their rebellion stage and I assumed that was pretty much what was going on.
I have since changed my mind. The cause of my loss of sympathy for Tamra came when she engaged in a very public Twitter war with her daughter and he daughter was clearly the mature party in the situation constantly begging her mother to get off the Internet and discuss the situation in their regular counseling session. Tamra was not having it and sort of went in on Simon blaming him.
After the last reunion episode where Tamra went on and on about missing Sidney and wanting to spend time with her daughter, Sidney decided she need to add some truth to Tamra’s version of events.
Sidney, who has been silent on the issue for two years began,”At this point I think it is necessary to tell the truth since she does not know how to tell the truth. Obviously, I am just another storyline that feeds her fame and her wallet.” How sad for a child to feel used by her mother to further her storyline on a reality TV show.
Sidney continued, “The reason I do not live with my mother is not because of my dad, it is because she is mentally/verbally abusive and not a mother to me. When I told my mother that I didn’t want to live with her anymore I asked only a few things from her. For the past two years I’ve been asking her to stop treating me badly, to stop doing embarrassing and talking about me on the show, and to not use my siblings and I as storylines.” Tamra clearly continues to embarrass herself as well as all of her children on TV, the Internet, periscopes with Shannon and on any other venue she can possibly receive national exposure from. She seem to not comprehend the damage she is doing.
Sidney seems to realize that the likelihood of reconciliation is slim, “Clearly she hasn’t followed through with anything that would have made me go back to her house. After telling her this for two years in consoling, she still hasn’t recognized that these problems are between her and I and continues to make this about my father and her. If she really wanted me back in her life she would have taken responsibility and changed two years ago when I told the first time what was causing our relationship to suffer.” When Tamra said that Simon was against Sidney getting counseling, I knew that was false. Tamra and Sidney had counseling over the course of two years and eventually Sidney realized that there was no progress being made with regard to Tamra owning her part in their estrangement. Simon argued in court that Sidney should not be forced back into counseling that had not reaped any benefit to Sidney in two years. Also Sidney was nearly an adult, she was doing well in school and thriving with Simon so the judge let the decision up to Sidney.
Tamra loves to cry parental alienation with regard to Simon. While Simon did not appear to be the perfect husband or father on the show, he has proven in the past two years raising Sidney that he is the better parent. At least for her. It seems however that Tamra is alienating Simon’s son who now refuses to see his father. Their youngest daughter continues to go on visits and vacations with Simon and his big sister.
Sadly, this is another family that is a causality of being on Bravo. The Beador girls seem to be headed for a similar destiny unless some major changes are implemented and boundaries established on what that family is willing to put on public display. While we all love to blame Bravo for this, the root of the issue is the desire certain people have for fame and notoriety above everything else. It’s becoming more and more depressing to watch.
Do you think Simon despite his faults is the better parent? Or do you think Tamra is doing a good job raising the two kids still left in her care?
I knew when Tamra opened her mouth at the reunion about what was going on with Sidney, she was lying. I was appalled and horrified as the words were coming out of her mouth. All I could think of was what kind of monster would do this to her underage children on national tv.
I totally agree. But I wasnt shocked bc Tamra can not take accountability for any of her actions, much like a dry drunk/addict. She doesnt use but she behaves as someone who does in regards to zero ownership of anything. One thing that did surprise me was Heather Dubrow co-signing Tamras ridiculous stories, going as far as to say that Tamra is an exemplary mother. I practically choked when Heather said that. Note to self: do not drink anything while watching parts 2 and 3.
But Tamra IS an exemplary mother; she’s a perfect example of what NOT to do!
Heather’s an exemplary hop-along. She really thinks that she can outsmart Tamra by being her “friend”. Sooner or later Tamra’s going to leave Heather holding the bag on this show. I hope Heather will be able to handle being betrayed without reacting violently.
She does drunk a shit ton so you may not be too far off the mark!
No that I’m overly sensitive on the subject or anything.. but surprisingly, addicts/alcoholics aren’t the only people who don’t take accountability for their actions. These shows are a haven for people who lack insight and fail to hold themselves accountable for their behavior.
I think Simon is the better parent. Tamara comes across as one of the most vulgar women on T.V. She is not a good role model for either of her daughters. Did anyone else notice that she was not really crying at the reunion, just wiping a dry tissue back and forth? That was a hell of a good water proof mascara if I am wrong !
Zero tears. Dry hanke.
Yes! I kept waiting for a lone tear to fall. She was so fake – and so was the finding Jesus storyline.
I’m not convinced he’s so great either but she’s definitely hit a new low by bringing up this very personal and private relationship on tv.
She’s been doing the fake tears thing for a couple of seasons now-it’s really pitiful-especially with the top part of her face totally frozen.
Honestly? I’m annoyed that there is yet another forum — one that I regularly read — with a thread set up to talk about it. The supposed facebook post of question is so contrived that it doesn’t ring real. Anyway, my opinion.
Tell about the red flags you see, Amber. Looks real and straightforward to me.
You can be sure that these will be the only civilized comments you will read on the subject.
Are you drinking the Tamra baptismal kool aid, Amber?
TT could’t have handled this story in a better, more caring or more sensitive way than she has. I applaud her for her restraint.
There is a child involved directly in this issue. The child has NOT been criticized here by TT, only the mother. The mother has already done a bang up job of embarrassing herself, and her family, on national television.
It sounded like a heartbroken girl pouring out her heart on the deaf ears of her exhibitionist Mother, if you ask me.
I said it a long time ago, usually about many Bravo children along the way…..their parents are embarrassing them by behaving badly on tv, airing their dirty laundry on tv, getting in trouble while on tv, for them and all their friends, school mates, teachers to view it all. And let’s not forget all the millions of strangers who will get on social media to harass them and their families. These parents are selfish and greedy.. Yes…I’m talking about YOU, Joe and Teresa, Nene and Greg, Tamara, child of Sonja and children of Luann….all of you and more. SMH.
Of course, I am sure that you all know that I meant Tamra….NOT Tamara. 🙂 I wouldn’t normally correct my spelling error…but this one was such a BAD error…:(
I Blame ‘Tamra’s’ mother for not knowing how to spell the name, AKA. That’s what happens when idiots bear live young.
Everyone makes mistakes also not everyone is a perfect parent but of course we strive to be the best we can against difficult situations for alot of us it can be overwhelming when children grow into their own personalities some good some difficult BUT HELL TAMARA DOESNT CARE OR TRIES! The whole video for cut fitness totally embarrassing theirs no substance to her character shes vindictive. Vicki gives me comedy and entertains that’s it for me Tamara knows nothing about being a friend shes sloppy and jumps ship at every turn I can definitely see her greed and wanting the light for herself seems like I know its TV and I gotta have that perspective but a TOTAL CUNT SATCHEL TXS FOR THE BLOG
You know, a period, used when writing, can be your trusty ‘lil friend. You might want to consider learning more about it’s use.
I was horrified when Tamra stated on the reunion show that her son refused to see Simon. That is a private matter between their son and Simon. She has no regard for her children’s feelings or boundaries. Thanks for the update, TT. Painful to read, but it’s a good teaching moment on how not to raise our kids. Their needs come first. Period. I hope Sidney continues to thrive under her father’s care and when it is necessary reminds that creature, who sadly is her mother, where the boundaries are.
One parent made a fake sex tape for television. The other works a normal job and stays relatively private. I think it is pretty obvious which is a ‘safer’ home for a teenager.
I just don’t understand how all these Twitter fools and commenters (on other sites) feel comfortable slamming a 17 year old and calling her ‘ungrateful’ etc. Fuck them.
Two fake sex tapes – the first in the tub and the second the “ad” for the Fitness club.
After every season of OC I think I forcefully wipe it from my memory, which is why I forgot that cringe worthy bathtub scene.
You could totally tell that Eddy was picturing a Bel Ami boy instead of Tamra.
I always thought Eddie would go for more of the Raging Stallion type.
Or even Treasure Island. Eddie’s Guzzling Weekend 2.
IMO Shannon has done much more damage than Tamra. Tamra’s ex is an abuser. There are a lot worse mothers on Bravo, the main one encouraged her 12 year old to find out the sexual history of his date
This post was especially interesting to me because of the reactions from some commenters after Tamra’s reunion performance, basically feeling sorry for her and blaming Simon. I remember thinking about how Sidney must feel watching this. I think I commented about how Sidney has expressed to her mother that Tamra’s behavior is embarrassing to her and causes her pain and how she has asked her mother to preserve her privacy, and that all of these requests have been studiously ignored by Tamra.
I think what bothers me the most about this scenario playing out on TV is that Tamra gets to have the most public and widespread voice about what’s been going on. And people who should know better, like Heather Dubrow, have jumped in with expressions of deep empathy, shaking their heads and saying that Tamra is an exemplary mother on national TV. I don’t understand this. It gives the public a really one-sided view of a really complicated situation, painting Tamra as an innocent victim, Simon as an abusive and vindictive father, and Sidney as a cold-hearted if not confused daughter. Why? What is the point of this? I’m pretty sure Tamra knew going public with this would hurt her daughter, she did it anyway. So I wholeheartedly agree with Sidney–Tamra did this for attention, publicity, public sympathy, and NOT to try to repair anything with her daughter.
I find Tamra to be very hard to sympathize with and believe when she’s cried on the show. It just never seems authentic. She seems to be trying so hard to cry that she starts quivering, and then seems to become agitated by the fact that she doesn’t seem to seem “upset” enough, which is probably what deregulates her enough to contort her face a bit in a way that resembles human emotion. She has only apologized for egregious behavior when it benefits her and felt compelled to “reinvent” and clean up her image to win support back. For some reason, she really triggers me. I just find her endless capacity to conjure up sob stories to make herself a perpetual victim appalling and revolting. It’s always something, every season. It’s Simon, or Slade/Gretchen/Jeana/Vicki/Shannon/Heather being big meanies, or her past suicide attempts, or her son having the audacity to make his own decisions, or her ex husband, or her estranged father, or her alleged ovarian cancer, or her IBS, or her exploding stomach/surgery episode. She’s always a victim of something, every season. This season she stooped to a new low and became her young daughter’s victim. I’m SO tired of it.
I guess I could scrape together some compassion if she ever took any accountability for anything she did–like if she had said on the reunion, “I may have done some things I regret that upset my daughter and I’m sorry…but I miss her and I wish we could work on reconnecting.” Instead it was more: “I don’t understand…it came out of nowhere…this was all Simon…I’ve held my pain in long enough and now I MUST speak on behalf of ALL ALIENATED PARENTS.” So no, I don’t find her believable, or sympathetic, or even likable. Even though I found Simon to be domineering, smug, and irritating a lot of the time when he was on the show, I actually agree with him that Tamra is a narcissist. She just cannot see outside of herself long enough to think about her part in any conflict or any pain she might be causing or contributing to. I think her relationship with Eddie has actually worsened her character and behavior over the years because he seems to defend, support, and believe every sob story she tells, which helps her absolve herself of all wrongdoing. Just an awful situation for that entire family.
Heather does not know what kind of mother Tamra is. Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. She should have kept her mouth shut. Tamra is an immature,vain, cruel ,selfish ,angry ,manipulative woman ,on the show. These shows are a drug for spendthrifts, their children are not the priority. Eddie’s unconditional support has made Tamra turn more into a monster. Anyway, this is the way Sydney feels and thats onTamra and no one else. Doesnt surprise me in the least ,that shes alienated her daughter with her wild drunken unstable narcassism. Shes more concerned about the embarassment of being found out a crappy mother, than doing the work to repair it. Live your life well Sydney.
Very well summed up. I go to TAMRA’s notes TT) where she says these shows have gotten darker
and , more x rated and very depressing when I, at least, tuned in to be entertained. Vicki is the only funny person with q sense of humor.
The women dress like they are the only people with big, fake boobs, no wrinkles and skirts that go to thigh tops. There is almost
constant alcohol with binging,striplswmming at a beautiful resort, have noisy, fake sex ((TAMARA AND EDDIE) in public. Then they all
decide to investigate the private medical records of a “boyfriend” and get angry at his woman for
not providing details! Finally, it sums it all up when, right after she was baptized, Tamara turned to
the camera and said ,if u don’t like it u can suck it”, just to show her “class”.
DO THESE PEOPLE NEED MONEY THAT BADLY????
I think this Facebook post should bring Tamra the biggest reality check ever. Your teenage daughter is outing you. That says everything.To be called ‘mentally and verbally abusive’ and ‘not a mother’ is a terrible indictment. Any decent mother would be devastated, but apparently Tamra is not a decent mother. I’m disappointed because, behind the scenes, I thought she adored her children, particularly Sidney. Somehow I thought the constant attention seeking and ‘I’m the hottest housewife’ shtick was just an act to guarantee her Bravo fee. Maybe Tamra really is that self absorbed, vacuous and oblivious. Yikes. She’s in her forties and a mother, (a GRANDMOTHER, no less, where a level of maturity is expected.)
As far as I can see, Sidney’s requests have been entirely reasonable and consistent: stop embarrassing yourself. Stop embarrassing me and my siblings with your outrageous behaviour on TV. Please mum.
Tamra, take heed before you lose her permanently and completely. This public outing could be a final warning before she permanently cuts you off. Tamra could call Sidney and apologise profusely, declare her everlasting love and promise to find other aspects of her life to use as a story line. The way she handles this fallout is crucial to the emotional well being of all of her children. Simon appeared to be a horrible, overbearing and condescending spouse on RHOC but now, I have 10% sympathy for him. Their daughter chooses to live with him instead of her, that says an awful lot. Tamra, girl, you gotta do better. Sidney, well done. You’ve inherited your mothers penchant for public spats and drama.
I can not agree more Alessa 949,
Yamoah: you are right. You know what would show her daughter that Tamra has/can change? She can do this one thing and instantly be redeemed. She can quit the show. She can say, “You’re right. I’m sorry. And I’m taking the first step to show you how much I value and respect you. I love being on tv. I love the attention. I love the bravo paycheck and the free advertising for cut fitness. I love being invited to parties and having friends who normally wouldn’t allow me to pet sit. But i love you more.” And tah-dah!
@Shay Quit the show!!? You and I, as well as many in the TamaraTattles community, know that Tamra will NEVER voluntarily give up her ‘celebrity status.’ She loves the attention, the dramas, the reunions, the Twitter spats and all of the attendant ‘benefits’ too much. Reality TV feeds her empty soul. Andy Cohen would have to personally fire her otherwise she’ll ride this train until it falls off the tracks! Mrs Judge is willing to pay the ‘blood price’ to remain on TV. She doesn’t have the humility or self awareness to acknowledge or apologise for selling herself or her private family troubles down the river. Sadly, Sidney is just a casualty of her mother’s naked ambition. Also, I’m pretty sure that of all her current castmates, Tamra needs the money most. Another reason she’s not going anywhere.
Sidenote: I don’t begrudge those housewives who are savvy enough to maximise the free, weekly advertising and marketing exposure that being on a prime time reality show brings.
#Vicky #LisaVanderpump #pre-incarceration Teresa #Nene #Ramona #AdrienneMaloof and business success story, (but look at the personal life) Bethenny Frankel all took advantage of their positions to promote their businesses as much as they could.
My unsolicited advice is; do whatever you can for your business BUT keep your children out of the deal, they didn’t sign up to be embarrassed, scrutinised, gossiped about and/or idolised. Protect them, it’s as simple as that.
”At this point I think it is necessary to tell the truth since SHE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO TELL THE TRUTH…wow, let’s just get down the the nut cutting. When your child says you don’t know HOW to tell the truth, then that’s pretty bad. Actually, it’s real bad. I can believe Tamra has been mentally/verbally abusive to Sidney, and she still is. By getting on the reunion and even brining it up caused Sidney more painful embarrassment and humiliation, and drove the wedge even deeper. I’m trying to figure out Tamra’s motivation for her dog and pony show. Maybe there are some people she can still snow and get some Christian brownie points or something. I don’t know. For the love of Pete. I wouldn’t trust Tamra as far as I could throw her. I’m sorry for Sidney though, if Tamra was my mother I would choose not to live with her either.
Considering Simons son doesn’t speak to him, I don’t think I could say he’s the better parent. Both of them seem to be unwilling to work as a team, and frankly neither should indulge the children to not be in contact with the other parent.
The son not speaking to Simon does not diminish Simon’s standing as ‘the better parent’. The son may have disagreed with rules of the house and chosen to live w Tamra as means to do as he wants.
During custody proceedings, I read there were allegations made that Tamra was MIA, not only during filming where she would travel and go out to events with the women but she also wouldn’t get home til after 11pm from Cut Fitness. The children would be unsupervised, homework unchecked, dinner not made and there were hygiene issues. Also one child had a broken arm for 2 days before going to Simon’s for visitation and taken to the ER to have it set because Tamra was ‘so busy’.
Here’s the problem I have with that tho, they were allegations brought forth by Simon. And I don’t find him trustworthy. Just as I don’t find Tamras word trustworthy. All I know is they both showed nasty behavior on TV, both slam each other publicly, both each have one child full time. I can’t say which one is worse BC I don’t think there are reliable unslanted facts being circulated to the public.
Yes, like people on the Internet saying things like “there were allegations made against Simon” yet not being able to name a single one…
I think Tamra is sad and heartbroken about her daughter, but not sad and heartbroken enough to do some real soul searching. Does she love her children more than she hates her ex?
Tamra has a alpaca in place of her mouth. She just spews forth nastiness.
Not alpaca cloaca. Damon aka my auto correct strikes again.
Thanks for the new word, even though somewhat mean and inappropriate in the manner you utilized it. Always love to learn a new one.
“Does she love her children more than she hates her ex?”
I think another question would be: does she love her children more than the attention she gets from being on tv?
IMO, the answers to both questions are NO.
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I as an adult I made a decision to not have my mother involved in my life. There are many reasons why and for my own sanity it was something I needed to do. Sidney obviously needs to break from her mother for her own reasons. It is heart breaking for all but maybe down the road they can reconcile if not so be it. Thank you TT for addressing this. I’ve seen people totally slamming Sidney and it really bothered me.
There’s a chance that Sidney figured that the only way she would be heard by Tamra in a meaningful way was in a public forum. Maybe that’s the only place Tamra won’t ignore her child or downplay her grievances. Selfish people always make everything about them and can’t stand to take the blame for anything. I can only imagine how those family counseling sessions went. That being said, Sidney sounds like she’s got a good head on her shoulders. As awful as having a malignant narcissist parent can be, it can also be a good learning experience.
After the showing of Part 1 of the reunion, Tamra tweeted “I love you so Sidney’ with a heart emoji. Sidney responded as TT posted, and Tamra’s next tweet was ‘I never abused you.’ That soon disappeared and Sidney quoted some psychological guru describing narcissist as ALWAYS making themselves the victim accusing her mother of the same. When that failed and know it all Heather couldn’t save her, Tamra went to a magazine to blame Simon saying “I know Sidney didn’t write that, I assure you.” Like she has a reputation for telling the truth. Then she and Shannon Beador got drunk and showed their true nature on Periscope or whatever it was.
So what teenager chooses an autocratic father to run their lives if there is ANY other choice? Thanks, TT, for standing with a teenager who has no power.
Actually that is not how it all went down. Sidney posted the one comment. Tamra accused Simon of writing it, which is clearly not true there were several adolescent mistakes in the statement. Sidney did NOT respond to Tamra on social media. SIMON posted an excerpt from a psychology book about Narcissism that seemed to fit Tamra quite well, but did not mention her and then Tamra and Shannon went to LA to do the podcast and then embarrassed their children by live streaming their drunken behavior to further embarrass their spawn,
TT: Shannon’s young children were right (and observant). The ONLY time you see Shannon laughing, giggling, smiling and having fun is when she is totally sloshed. How sad for them. And what a terrible example of alcohol use.
P.S. I noticed David relaxed in a recent photo of the two of them, and his eyes were a normal distance from the socket. I think Shannon’s harping cause him to have high blood pressure and bulging eyes.
I don’t think Tamra should ever publicly discuss issues w/her children, their father, or anything that would damage them – she’s obviously done these things. But… I also don’t believe Sidney wrote this post.
I agree with this. At the same time, I believe Simon was leaking a lot of negative stuff to the press. This just why I can’t say one is better than the other. I feel bad for Sydney, but her father should have also encouraged her to be quiet BC people are now attacking this poor 17 year old. Everyone should not say a thing but everyone seems to feel the need to respond.
Nor I, Jujue. Everyone has their own truth during a divorce, kids and parents alike. Most divorces are acrimonious and sadly both parents use their children to get back at their ex spouse. Tamra shouldn’t be discussing her children on national TV and Simon shouldn’t be bad mouth thing his ex on Twitter or leaking text messages to the Daily Mail. Maybe Tamra is alienating her son from her ex but isn’t Simon doing the same thing. The counseling that Sydney and Tamra had was court ordered. The counselor stated in court that Simon was guilty of parent alienation. Frankly I think they’re both lousy parents.
MAtzah, The only person who has ever uttered the words “parent alienation” is Tamra Judge. Although Heather Dubrow did nod her head and repeat in on the reunion sofas last week. This explained to me where Tamra learned those two big words. The court judge found in favor of Simon. If the judge believed he was alienating Sidney from her mother he/she would never have done that. Sidney made it clear she was unhappy living with her mother. She was treated for anxiety. She improved with Simon’s care. So the judge allowed her to stay with her father. The transcripts of a child custody battle are never made public. So no testimony was available. Tamra said the counseling was “parental alienation counseling” which is also bullshit. If parental alienation was occurring then both PARENTS would be involved in counseling outside the presence of the child.
Please don’t make up facts to post in comments.
Simon could be a judgemental jerk on the show, but sometimes I agreed with him. And yes, I definitely think he’s a better parent, at least for Sidney. And I can see Tamra turning her son against Simon as payback because she is a mentally and emotionally stunted person who would use her kids against her ex.
Spot on!!! I think she did it as payback. She had mentioned on another show or article that he moved in with her right after she lost the court case of Sidney. She’s trying to hurt simon but she’s hurting her kids.
I thought that to, shes setteling the score with the son. Thats how Tamra rolls. I dont understand the continuing fixation on kids living with the mother or assuming the mother is allways the better parent. I thought we were supposed to be more equal. And ive seen quite a few mothers that ive thought were neglectful party animals, and drug their kids through a slew of lousy boyfriends. The dad may be happily remarried and could provide stability. But nope the kids are kept with mom, spending alot of time wondering where shes at. Im glad Sydney has a protective involved dad.
the judge also stated in his/her decision, that going to Breaking Barriers (i think that’s the name) counseling, just she and Tamra, “would not be in Sidney’s best interest”. — but to hear Tamra tell it, it was Simon that nixed it. naw Tamra, it was the family court JUDGE that said it, after a one on one in chambers with Sidney.
Tamara may not be the type of abusive and neglectful mother that you read in the papers but I certainly would not call her a good mother.
Tamra has always struck me as a slightly more polished version of Brandi. Both hate their exes more than they love their kids, possessive of their children like they are possessions instead of people…and both narcissists.
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Guess Tamra was drowning her sorrows the other night with Shannon Beador when they were drunker than skunks. Hey, I loved an old, expensive, single malt scotch myself, but that love came along with my empty nest. I’m certain Shannon’s daughters feel the same shame as Sidney. The LOVE of money and fame is very expensive, apparently. But, hey, it’s just your daughters Tamra and Shannon…Heather, are you really paying attention cause you have a few kids?
I just feel so bad for all of these kids…
I think it is especially reprehensible that Tamra decided to bring a strained relationship with her minor daughter to a television audience in a calculated move for viewer sympathy once again. If you are trying to repair a relationship, you keep it out of the spotlight. In my eyes, this taking to Twitter to insinuate the Facebook post is Simon driven is ludicrous. Tamra put what should have been a private family matter on television screens for the world to see. In doing so protecting her children was clearly secondary to her pursuit of screentime. The show would be better without Tamra.
I can’t remember where I saw it, but at some point Tamra was saying that God had lead her to share this story. UGH The woman needs to be punched in the throat.
A mother certain of the fact everything centers around herself and a child wise enough to know the difference. You don’t get to pick your parents but you can choose not to emulate bad behavior. Admonish privately? Oh hell no. Judge not lest ye be judged opted to crucify her daughter. Flesh of her own blood. Jesus wept. (Won’t be here Thursday) He’ crying right now. Try a re- baptism for about five minutes or until the bubbles stop. Then Tamra may truly find Jesus. As of now he has defriended you. Rightfully so.
Amen T D !
I think Tamra might be envious of her daughter. Remember she was mean as shit to Gretchen and Alexis because she thought they were hotter than her? She is so dumb to make her daughter an enemy because of this choice. There will be times Simon and Sydney have issues and instead of having a mother waiting with open arms it will be maybe a boyfriend or boyfriend’s family she seeks refuge with.
Sydney sounds smarter, more mature, and less bias than Tamra. I think she will be ok.
I agree. A woman that feels her worth only comes from being the hottest in the room, is going to allways be stunted and shallow and unhappy. Better to be the whole package and an evolved person. Sounds like Sydney has more going for her.
I argee. Shay. I remember telling my own daughter that I wanted her first sexual experience to be because she wanted it, and not because she was mad at her parents or had too much to drink or too much peer pressure…all reasons young teens seek comfort and make bad choices,imo. So now Simon is Sidney’s only lifeline.
Peach: that’s so great you could be honest and open with your daughter about sex and the many reasons girls do it before they are ready. Once that seed of truth is planted, it will be in the back of her mind forever. Even when she would be old enough to date, she would subconsciously check herself, “do I really like this guy or am I making a relationship out of spite or to prove something?” Can’t tell you how many times I stayed with a guy because I wanted to make a point. (Actually, once.)
I just want to make one thing clear first, I am NOT defending Tamra in regards to the spotlight and the social media/Twitter wars with her daughter however, I am simply speaking has a mother who was once involved with someone similar to Simon but not only controlling and mentally + emotionally abusive but he was also physically abusive. I see a lot of signs In Simon that my ex husband exhibited. That said, Simon I can guarantee you is no angel! I can put money on it that he is filling his daughter with so much hate towards her mother without now their daughter is for lack of better words being controlled by her father. I am not condoning anything her mother does and I am NOT saying she is innocent whatsoever! But I do believe there are two sides to every story and then the truth in the middle. Tamra is certainly no angel but Simon is certainly not a perfect parent or close to it, I guarantee you he has somehow gotten into his daughter’s head and made problems she was having with her mom much worse! He is a control freak as we all know, and because he cannot control Tamra he is using his daughter. and I know she is somewhat brainwashed by now. Again, I am NOT defending her But I don’t think Simon is completely innocent. He showed us when he was on the show just how controlling he was, and that’s when the cameras were around! He was clearly a lot worse when they were not and their children witnessed it. And correct me if I’m wrong but is he not dating someone a lot younger than himself? Just a little bit older than Sydney?
Sorry blah blah blah lol….. This is my first time ever posting on here, but I just felt compelled to bring up the point of Simon’s control! And I guarantee you he is still controlling his daughter, and 2 years ago he started it, he tried to paint a horrible picture of her mother and for the last few years keeps controlling his daughter to hurt his ex wife because he cannot control her anymore and I know that kills him! Just sayin
No need to apologize. There are no angels in this scenario. I have no doubt that Tamra and Simon would have had marital issues with or without RHOC. RHOC merely accelerated and exacerbated them.
As for who’s telling the truth, how are we to know? The only people who know with certainty are the people in the relationship, and they aren’t confessing.
Simon likely blames RHOC for the loss of his job, his house and his marriage and is bitter about being cuckolded on national tv. Tamra may have been under his domineering thumb, and found the confidence to leave him when she became a reality “star,” unleashing her own demons in the process.
I cannot imagine the pressures being in this negative spotlight must have on relationships. We’ve witnessed examples of those who can manage it well, at least publicly, and those who cannot in these modern morality plays by Bravo. Sadly, most of them fall into the mismanagement category.
You could be correct about Simon, however kids have the power to hate on their own without anyone instilling. My kids despise my x and refuse any contact even though I tell them he was happy when they were born (28 and 21 years ago), he loved them. Any explanation that they were not the reason he left (for another country no less); that it was him and I had issues – doesn’t matter. The last time they have seen each other was 18 years ago, a couple phone calls the girls hanged up on him and that was the end of any communication. So for me you can be wrong about Simon as well.
Tamra told on herself at the reunion- as liars usually do. When asked why this was not a story line she said “Because it’s humiliating!” She is not at all concerned about her child’s heart break, only that this makes her look bad on TV and has robbed her of a storyline. Case Closed.
Amber, I have a lot of respect for the way TT handled this very sensitive subject.
This is sad. I couldn’t imagine losing relationships with my children. I think what you said TT is very true.
You nailed it. It is becoming more and more depressing to watch.This show is not enjoyable. Sad what people do for notoriety.
I just read all of the comments. There are no perfect parents. There are no perfect children but damn I have no sympathy for parents like Tamra and Shannon for that matter. Let kids be kids. Don’t drag thwm into your shit. Don’t make them a storyline for a tv show. These are young women we are talking about! This is dangerous. Its just not fair to rob them of their last few years of childhood to be innocent and care free. Bottom line its selfish, abusive and just plain wrong. It is inevitable to make mistakes parents but this is just straight up carelessness. Let kids be KIDS. Leave your grown up problems and all of your bullshit to work out without them involved. My heart breaks for these kids. They must be humiliated.
Jen I agree, no need to drag children into these shows that are crap. To discuss intimate details on social media is ludicrous.
Well said. Thats the biggest reason to try and control yourself, because there’s only one childhood. Some poor kids really dont have one,when they are torn apart by divorce and parental selfishness and destructiveness. There is no do over and then youve changed forever who they would have been, if there had been peace and stability.
Bravo’s not going to sit with Tamra or visit her in the old folks’ home. I doubt narcissistic memories of “success” will b enough.
I really feel for Tamra’s children. Kids can be cruel. I can only imagine what the other kids say to her about her mother’s trashy antics. Having all the kids at school see your mother talking about anal sex and her behavior with strippers, not to mention the infamous semi-porn session of her and Eddie in the bathtub. I bet this poor teenage girl just cringes every week before a new episode airs not knowing what her mother will say or do. These kids didn’t ask for this. I am not a Sonya Morgan fan from the RHONY, but one thing I admire is she has never shown her daughter and we never have heard her even say her name. She only refers to her as “my daughter”. Of course it’s easy to google her daughter’s name, but she has never been subject matter for the show, although I am sure she also has to endure some sh*t as school for her mothers sexcapaides.
I expect Tamra’s youngest, Sophia, to be just like her mother unless Simon can step in and gain primary custody of her. Tamra had said on the previous season that Sophia was a hoochie mama in training and wanted a stripper pole.
I happened on a reunion show for Bad Girls, and shook my head, now I think bad girls is pretraining for bravos housewives shows!