From the looks of the reunion press releases, not much is going to happen this episode and the whole cancer drama won’t come to a head until the third part of the reunion. So what the hell will they talk about tonight?
Well, here we go. Andy says they got an unprecedented number of questions from the fans. Tamra says that Ryan and Sarah still live in the house in OC. I’m going to need Meghan to verify that because I’m pretty sure they are splitsville.
We are starting with Meghan’s “parenting skills.” We are starting the bash Vicki plan early by making it seem like parents of adopted children do have the same bond that parents who have genetic children. She never said that. She said that Meghan is a step-mom who needs to stay in her lane. This is a ridiculous line of discussion. Then Meghan gets dogpiled for saying mean things about Jim’s first wife. Both Shannon and Heather tell her that is unacceptable behavior.
Did the girls all get their dresses at Kohl’s? They are all very plain jane and cheap looking. 
We do a montage of scenes about Vicki’s mother dying. Vicki says that her grief is getting worse. I’m sure Brooks leaving her contributes to her loneliness. Vicki says that it’s okay that the cameras filmed her finding out her mother was dead. Vicki tells the story of her mom getting arrested for road rage while Vicki was in Mexico. It ended up costing Vicki ten thousand dollars to repaint the motorcycle that her mother keyed.
I’m so bored. I am not even recapping the food segment or the sushi girl stuff.
Tamra still seems to be BFFs with Meghan. Meghan says her name is Meghan King. She only uses Edmond for the show. We rehash the charity feud between Meghan and Shannon. Meghan shows Shannon what her judgey eyes look like. Meghan and Shannon like each other now. Shannon helped Leanne get in to see a prominent doctor and that was the turning point where these two started to get along.
Tamra tells the story of Sydney telling her that she didn’t want too live with her anymore. She says that Sydney has basically not spoken to her in two years. Her son Spencer won’t seek to Simon anymore. Did Heather just call Tamra an exemplary mother? Yes she did. Tamra says that someone invited her to church during all of this time. That is when her religious streak started. She’s upset that she has been cut out of her daughter’s life and she missed homecoming dances and other milestones.
Shannon talks about seeing a transformation in Tamra since her religious conversion. Alexis Bellino emailed to Andy regarding Tamra’s newly found religion. It’s a long email that basically says she can’t sit back and watch Tamra make a mockery of her savior. She says you can’t get baptized and then continue to display the same bad behaviors. Tamra says that Alexis is the type of Christian who gives Christians a bad name.
Next Week: The bitching continues. Brianna says that Brooks hit on her when she was pregnant. Jim Edmonds makes an appearance.
Vicki looked terrible, her face was puffy. Exactly what is an “OG of the OC?”.
old/original girl of orange county
Thanks, I don’t know why she’d think of herself as a girl, though.
Original Gangster.
It actually stands for “Original Gangsta”
Ha ha ha, Vicki probably also thinks “OG” stands for “old/original girl”!
No…it’s Original Gangster.
Not even a thumbs uop on the fashion and styling. Not even that much to say about it. I have to wonder why a grandmother has a dress with a slit down to her navel. Heather looks ugly in brown hair. Tamra does exactly what has alienated her daughter in the fisrt place on national t.v. This is sure to make the girl resent her even more. I think she did it to get back at the girl. Dreadful behavior. Probably the most boring reunion ever filmed.
OG stands for Original Gangster.
Old goat, lol. Poor girl, she seems medicated, which in this case does not seem like such a bad idea. In fact everyone seems to be communicating like adults. Much nicer than all of the screaming. But Tam’s fake tears were making my eyes irritated, all of that dabbing….
I don’t believe Brianna. Watch her reaction/over (no eye contact, loud, over the top) I think nail on head with $ issue & her Mom.
Making 6 figures ain’t the easy millions she had at fingertips.
And if she wants to talk about significant others…her husband is a piece of work!
I believe he’s abusive mentally & emotionally.
He has no respect for anyone-particularly “old ladies with tired feet”
And have you ever seen his family?
No he’s a piece of $?!”
Poor Vicki
Even while not being present and through an (one hopes) editted email, Alexis manages to convey the rare combination of smug superiority and uninformed condescension that causes this viewer to be reminded why I was thrilled she was fired.
Dude, you are good, great description.
You took me back to the angst I felt watching her. ?
You wax poetic.
Yeassss
I so agree. Alexis is an odious person. Hearing Tamra’s backstory tonight on how she got involved with church made a little more sense to me. I thought it really was a story line (which it may have been), but I felt it was sincere when she explained how a client introduced her to church. It wasn’t just a lightening bolt/ revelation that came from nowhere as I had previously thought. Also, going through an extremely painful situation can help push you in that direction.
Nothing else I can really think of for now. There wasn’t really any notable fighting or screaming for a change.
Pip, so agree about Tamra and the whole religion thing. I thought it was just to have a storyline but her horrible custody battle and her devastation makes sense. I glad to see that it was more genuine. Now if she comes back next year with Sydney in tow I take it all back!
And all I see with Tamra is someone trying to look good to a judge. She is a shitty person and is a liar and a backstabber
She actually had real tears. I still don’t like her, but I believed her
Wow I can’t people actually believe it right away. I do think the tears were real but that’s because she’s been railed about her parenting and custody battle and she was in the hot seat last year when all this came to a head.
I would wait to see if she shows it’s genuine through action for longer than a one part reunion but I guess some were team tamra to begin with
I was never Team Tamra. I am not Team Tamra now.
Her tears seemed real. Her daughter turning her back on her clearly hurt her.
Doesn’t mean I like her and it doesn’t mean I ever did.
I had a different take on Tamra and her finding Christianity. Tamra made claims of being a Christian when Alexis first joined the show. Tamra also pretended to be Alexis’s friend when she first joined the show. She talked about going to church (I believe she and Simon were attending the same church as the Bellinos at the time – but can’t be absolutely sure). She even applauded Alexis for some piece of jewelry that Jim “bought” her and said something like needing to up her game so that she could get the same from Simon. So, Tamra’s self serving backstory about how hard her previous year had been – especially since all that happened was that her chickens had come home to roost – rang completely false to me.
Tamra’s custody battles came because of her behavior and refusal to acknowledge that she was an embarrassment to her children – especially her teenage daughter with whom she feuded with on Social Media. Tamra’s issues on the show came because she was caught red handed in many of her lies and shit stirring. The fact that Tamra is now using Christianity while still refusing to admit that she acted like a shitty human being tells me that she has not changed.
Tamra was asked point blank if she felt she owed Alexis and apology for calling her Jesus Jugs now that she had “found Jesus”, and Tamra responded by saying she apologized to Jesus. That is not the behavior of a woman who realizes that she has done/said something wrong and is wanting forgiveness. That is the work of a woman who believes that now she has been baptized, she is no longer accountable for her behavior, because everyone else can suck it.
You make great points, PaganChick.
I really dislike Tamra. I thought perhaps she had seen the error of her ways. But this religious Tamra is probably just a ploy so she can tell herself she is forgiven and not have to face her own reality that she is despicable.
Also indulging in a Twitter war with her teenager? Sheesh. Not to mention, all of her lewd and embarrassing behavior on the show. It’s got to be hard on her kids.
Okay- I hate her. I also see that I have been conned.
I still think Alexis is a joke, though. “Making a mockery of my savior”? Please.
They both remind me of Charles Colson who found Jesus just before he was being charged in the Watergate scandal.
haha Lisamia! Colson is a great analogy!
Never a fan of Alexis but I think people are missing her point. She’s not saying no one can ever change or judging who gets to be considered a good christian. She’s just pointing out that Tamra is whoring out this supposed newfound spirituality for a story-line and it’s part & parcel of her cycle of going from nasty to reformed every other season.
P on, That is how I viewed it too.
If it was coming from anyone but Alexis, I might agree and give some leeway. But, no, this is Alexis (and most likely puppetmaster Jim) pulling the “I have a direct hotline to G-d and I know The Truth because Jesus picked me first.”
Trampoline on out of lives forever, please, Bellinos.
This is how i saw it as well. Tamra is an actress and not a very good one. She is full of shit and has always deflected well. I hate when people pretend to use religion as a way to appear better.
I would believe Alexis about religion any day over Tamara. Tamara is a sociopath and isnt capable of redemption. That Breanna says Brooks came on to her when she was pregnent was shocking that Vickie would still be with him. What the hell Vickie?
Yep. She faked it as a new girl, became a mean girl when it made the show more interesting. Played innocent when first with eddie and the custody issue but then that got boring so she became a mean girl again and then almost got axed and now she’s “reformed” until it gets boring. And by “reformed” I mean talking to Shannon and Meghan behind the scenes for them to be her mouthpiece and she stirs the pot. She’ll be back to mean girl openly when the “reformed” bit gets boring.
That’s pretty much how I interpreted it as well. I’m sitting on the sidelines, watching this, “Come to Jesus” momen-we’ll see. I watch people come into my AA meetings every day-talking the talk but rarely, “walking the walk”, which is much harder. I guess I’m a judgmental bitch but I’ve been watching her stir the shit for years and I’ve always thought she was just a nasty, unhappy woman who manipulates and takes it out her misery on other people.
I still don’t know why Tamra was wiping her face. Try as she might, the tears never came. Maybe I just didn’t see them (if they ever came) as I was too focused on the bag under her right eye. The lighting was awful last night.
Totally agree. She did herself zero favors writing that e-mail. I don’t blame Alexis for not liking Tamra, but she’s not the judge and jury. If she really felt the need to comment and be heard, she could have just welcomed Tamra to the faith. To me, the email came across as holier than thou and bitter. Alexis, what happened to “love one another as I have loved you”, or “he who is without sin cast the first stone, or “judge not lest ye be judged” ? Take. A. Seat.
Yeah, way to go both for both Jesus girls. Calm down and live better lives, think of others, Christianity is not like getting a free pass to judge.
Thanks for the recap, TT. I fast forwarded all of the playbacks. The reunion could be one hour if they stopped with all the fillers. Sydney’s behavior is karma. Really sick of Tamra’s fake tears. The high point was Alexis’ email. Right on!!! The Brooks bashing in the previews with Team Brianna was ugly and inevitable, but it’s really too bad they are doing it when he is not there to defend himself. I am not a big Brooks fan, but let it go already, ladies. He’s gone. Brianna, you got what you wanted. Now, hug your mom because she is in a whole lot of pain. Sheesh!
What I am most interested in is finding out who is getting the rehire after the reunion shows are over.
Yeah but how would it feel to have your moms boyfriend come on to you while pregnent , and your mom doesnt care at all?. In fact she chooses him sides with him and wants you to accept him. No wonder Ryan and Breanna dont want Brooks anywhere near their family. Totally understandable. I believe Breanna. Shame on you Vickie.
Briana likes to make mountains out of molehills. I don’t believe her.
So, everybody on this show tells questionable stories, except Briana? She’s the only one who never lies and/or embellishes the truth? It’s hard to believe anybody on this show. Not just Brooks and Tamra. Briana needs to stop humiliating her grieving mother on national television. If she could stop twisting the knife in her mothers back, for all the bloody world to see, then I might take her a bit more seriously.
You could say a bunch of stuff about Kim Richards, but at least her kids have the good sense to not have joined her on a reality TV show.
Thank you, Minky! That is exactly what I was thinking. Kick your mother when she’s down? Bad form.
I like Briana but she is a spoiled brat and she’s my generation of parenting where we don’t really appreciate all our parents did for us. It wasn’t until 5 years ago that I stopped being spoiled and appreciated my parents. For someone that still depends on Vicki financially she has a lot of nerve always calling her mother or her mother’s BF at the time out.
But she always knows Vicki will take her crap.
Briana’s kids are going to do to her what she is doing to her mother, me thinks.
In any event, if she is not embellishing (aka Brooks being a proper man and complimenting her on looking nice and put together while pregnant which she views as two steps away from throwing her on the bed and having his way with her) or lying then I’m not sure what she is gaining KNOWING that her mom was the target of this season and adding insult to injury to say things like this.
Be a nurturing daughter and comfort your mom during this trying year that has effecting her mentally and emotionally and unfortunately I think might impact her business wise and stop trying to hurt the mother that is still helping you out more than many mothers would at her age.
@sware84 – in what way is Briana financially dependent on Vicki? I seemed to have missed that.
Not a Brooks fan. Do not believe he hit on her. I believe he made some stupid comment she took way too serious because I think she hangs on every word he says and twists its. I do however think he says things to push her buttons. He has on the reunion show and racking my brain but there was another interaction between them he did (? Another reunion?)
I don’t believe Brianna-just not buying it. At best, Brook’s made a joke in poor taste and Brianna pounced on it…he despises her, she was fat and pregnant-I don’t think so.
Who desires to show his penis to an already large selfish spoiled pregnant girlfriend’s daughter?
What would Jesus do? If you ask me, Jesus would lose his shit and bitch slap the fuck out of all of them.
Truth
Makes me want to give Jesus a helping hand.
I wonder if Shannon realizes that white vinegar comes from grain alcohol aka vodka? Wine vinegar from win etc.
TT, you are right. Those women shopped off the Kohls sale rack.
Vicki looks like she’s been beaten up by experts. She looked so sad. Hardest thing in the world not to have your mom on the other end of the phone.
They look like they belong in a Bel Biv Devoe video.
This! lol
I hate that Alexis sent that email…it was just in such in poor taste. People don’t change overnight just because they get baptized. It really did make Christians look bad, and Tamra look right…neither of which I’d like to acknowledge.
Yes! As Xanadude points out, it just reminds us why Alexis was so horrible. Didn’t Jesus say something about taking the log out of your own eye before trying to remove a speck from another’s eye.
Yes, and a few things like love one another and forgive each other as I forgive you and judge not as he shall be judged. Very hard words for me to live by.
Jesus was also brutally crucified and persecuted…I think he can handle being “mocked” by an over-bleached, air-headed housewife of orange county lol
Yes, and generally Christians rejoice about another’s decision to follow Christ. I’m prob using irony wrong ? but I found it ironic that Alexis would find this a ploy/mockery when that’s how many believers – myself included – felt when Alexis used that for part of HER storyline.
Agreed. Alexis should just hold off. I don’t know why Christians (and I am one) feel the need to pass judgement. It takes time and work to keep following Christ. It is worth it but people don’t just automatically become amazing, sometimes we never do, truth be told. That’s why Jesus feels that judgement should be left to God who truly knows our hearts and will figure it out himself. I am sure nobody in heaven is celebrating my obsession with these shows but at least I was never on one (wink wink Alexis). Just leave the judging to the big guy. He at least doesn’t have hate in his heart. I hope Tamara does find peace and a new grace in her life. I hope that for everyone.
Watching now. Just in time to hear Heather say how hard she has it as a stay at home mom. They all look cheep, cheep, cheep! And no wonder Meghan did the “knowledge quest’ b/c she has a very small head.
I’m on a yeast free diet & you can’t drink alcohol on a yeast free diet. Shannon sure knows how to pick & choose what to believe based on what works best for her in the moment. I think Vicki’s friendship fell victim to that mentality.
yes!!! a thousabd times yes!
Shannon thinks that because she asks the waiter to have the bartender squeeze a whole lime in her alcoholic drink that this negates the yeast. She is the expert, – NOT!
I was thinking the same thing. The 9 lemons in the bowl kill yeast.
Why do people in BH and OC attribute all these magical powers to lemons and limes?
Josie. The believe that it makes their gut more “alkaline” which hey believe decreases yeast and bad bacteria. A lot of studies show that yeast flourishes in an alkaline environment. Even if an alkaline gut was more beneficial, some lemon juice is not going to counter the NATURAL ACIDIC environment in the stomach and if anything would only change the ph of the urine. But don’t tell California that, they are resolute in their position.
Um…
Oh Sequoia, feel free to give us the California version of the benefits of the alkaline diet…
Yep. As soon as the mean girls, who previously wanted to have her committed, accepted her she too started to push Vicki closer to the edge of the staircase to watch the fall. She went from my fave last year to a four way tie for most disliked with Tamra, Heather and Meghan.
Andy gave Vicki the ” OG from OC” nickname. In this case its the “Original Gal/Girl from Orange Co.”.
Im team Vicki, when you lose your Mother it doesnt get easier with time but harder. Bravo should of backed off the cancer story with Brooks. I give her a hall pass.
Me too, zenjen55.
It’s a play off of OG meaning the original gangsta.
So it was a clever way for Bravo to merge original gangster with original girl to show that Nene until season 8, Vicki, Ramona, Teresa and I guess (Kyle and Lisa) have weathered the storms of many coming and going and they still hold their orange, peach, apple or whatever prop used for each city.
Think back at how many came for the top girls and either had to settle for 2nd place or are no longer on the show. So bravo used both terms of OG as a clever way to remind people who the show is revolved around and respect for them lasting so long.
Look, as much as I dislike Tamra, I could only imagine how painful it is to have your daughter cut you out of her life. She does seem to be trying. She has to work a lot harder, but I’m not going to ignore her efforts completely just BC she’s not my favorite.
Tamra wasn’t acting in the best interest of her children when she discussed custody issues, in detail, at the reunion. I’m sure she knows that many doubt her sudden Christian awaking, but her daughter’s decisions are private. Obviously her daughter didn’t give permission for Tamra to (over)share very personal family business. So Tamra bought Sydney a necklace? Does not make her a caring, protective mother. Very selfish and inappropriate, but we knew that before tonight. So sad that this woman really doesn’t get it.
Oh, and her comment about her infant grand-daughter, ” she’s exactly like me!” The bullshit never ends with this one.
Actually, their year custody battle has been in the local and to some extent the national news off and on for a good 4 years. Simon plays pretty dirty. The court found that he was alienating the affections of the children. A family therapist appointed by the court wrote a letter to the court claiming Simon misrepresented her statements and lied under oath. What Tamra shared tonight was already out there. I cannot stand her behavior on the show, but I do think she loves her kids and has been in an impossible situation with that bastard. I think it is tragic when one parent interferes with the relationship of the other in a divorce. He has done everything in his power to turn those kids against her. I hope it all works out for them.
Actually, the court DID NOT find that he was alienating the affection of the children which is why he was granted custody of Sydney. Tamra may love her kids, but her need to be a narcissistic mess on television is why her daughter does not want to live with her.
Yes about Simon. I could see he was dirty from the beginning. I know this type of man and they never ever stop.
Years from now he will be trying to make Tamra look bad. It is a compulsion.
The oldest child usually takes up for Dad.
Vicki seems spent. She looks like she’s over it and this is actually probably the best time for her to bow out of the show RELATIVELY gracefully. (I mean, if any OC HW could ever really be called “graceful”.) And HWs are notorious for trying to stop the clock, but it’ll inevitability become Real Grandmas of the OC if people don’t retire!!!
(Exception: Lisa Vanderpump. Not sure why.)
I think she’s over THIS SEASON but I doubt Vicki will be damned to allow these girls win by her leaving. I think she is ready for her next season to repair the damage and get Jeana, Lizzie and possibly gretchen back to level the playing field.
She’s not going anywhere and I don’t think the show would manage without her.
She’s the one that still has that family connection in her storyline as well as her business.
The others families will not be connected more than already and if they are pushed more it will not be beneficial.
Heather’s family is not likable. Shannon’s family is not either. Tamra can’t show much and Meghan’s step mother is a spoiled girl.
Moments of vicki being a grandmother and a mother to her spoiled child give us elements of the way OC once was and that can not be erased.
I would like Briana to be a housewife if she moves back to OC in the future.
Your last comment sent shivers down my spine. And aside from that…I think I remember on an older reunion that the ladies talked shit to Alexis for being such a bitch to the crew as well as salesladies in a high end department store. So I have no use for her as well.
All those women can be mean and nasty. Leave the children out of it. I remember when Vicki teamed up with Tamra to get Gretchen “naked wasted”. Megan’s step daughter was watching her mother die. The Beador girls are caught in the middle of their parents’ marriage mess. The Dubrows kid’s seem pretty normal. The baby throws tantrums. Some children throw tantrums. They are not on TV very much.Tamra is heartbroken about her daughter even though she fails to see her antics on reality TV caused most of the problems. Vicki does not deserve all the vitriol of the other women, but she is no saint. The fact that they chose to expose all for the world to see tells me they want fame and all the perks that go with it.
I have disliked Tamra ever since the naked wasted incident. She will never get a pass from me. Vicki has never been my favorite, but I have moments when I like her. I never liked Shannon. I think Meghan had no business trying to be girl detective and trying to expose Brooks. That was as vile as naked wasted. I do think she loves her step kids.
Those women, like most groups, have a pack mentality, and ganged up on the most vulnerable. They can smell it out.
Tamra is damn ed if she does, damn ed if she doesn’t in terms of talking about the custody battle. It was all over the news… and frankly, if it was that Simon was filing for full custody that day..no one but Simon could be responsible for that info leaking out.
She only spoke about loving her daughter and missing her terribly. 17 year old daughter is old enough to take an honest look at the situation and her father has some responsibility in the breakdown of his marriage.
Tamra engaged in a Twitter war with her teenage daughter. So regardless of Simon filing for custody, all of this mess would have come out because Tamra can’t help herself.
Yes, and the Twitter war was very one sided with Sidney saying very calmly things like “this is what we can talk about in therapy” while Tamra was wilding out. It sure seemed like they were in therapy at that time and Sidney eventually gave up, because, TAMRA.
Wow! No shit? I can’t believe a mother would engage on Twitter with her daughter like that.
What an idiot.
That is incredibly sad.
Yes TT, that Twitter war was insane. Sydney kept trying to get her mother to stop and talk to her in therapy and Tamra kept going on and on about how Sydney wasn’t supportive of her during the divorce and how Sydney was spoiled. You would have thought that Tamra was the teenager in that exchange.
From what I understand from court documents and complaints by both Sidney and her father, it appears that Signey is understandably extremely embarrassed by her mother’s public persona and it causes her distress both at school and socially to be associated with her mother. Documented references were made to her mother’s naked bathtub scene with Eddie, the bachelor party with male strippers putting their genitalia in her face, and her obscene and vulgar language and communication style. In other words, Tamra was made fully aware that her daughter suffers due to her embarrassing public misbehavior–high school is hard enough without your mother’s lewd actions being projected on national TV for all to see. Yet Tamra’s reaction to knowing that her daughter suffers because of this behavior (and has differing values as far as appropriate language and behavior) is to throw a sex party while wearing an S&M getup, strip down naked on vacation, discuss her sex life and preferences, constantly reference (and touch) her own and others’ breasts, anal sex, among other, ahem, unbecoming behavior for a mother of young children. I understand that Tamra wants to feel young, get fame and attention, and hold on to her reality TV job, but being a decent parent usually entails making sacrifices in the best interest of your child. If Tamra understood this, she would risk jeopardizing her position on the show by somewhat cleaning up her public behavior to prevent her daughter embarrassment, humiliation, and the need for therapy in the first place. In the seasons since her daughter made these complaints and left her home, Tamra’s persistence in this type of behavior will be interpreted by any child as: “you are not that important to me.” As others have pointed this out, Tamra publicly airing her troubles with her daughter on the reunion was self-serving and only succeeded in continuing to violate the privacy of her daughter and bring her more humilation.
Co-sign, Alessa. Much better than just well said. And any therapist who sees these continued behaviors from the “estranged mom” would continue to honor that daughter’s wishes.
I wonder if Tamra understands that there is a great chance that this rift may be permanent. The feelings of resentment between Mothers and teenage daughters can last a lifetime. What Tamra has done is public and it is not defensable. She is not an actress working on a movie. She is a forgettable reality personality but the video will be there to haunt her forever.
Thank-you. Well said. I’ve been waiting for this comment since Tamra arrived on the scene.
I really feel bad for Vicki, but I think she’s better off without Brooks. He is a fame whore IMO and will go crawling back to Vicki when this terrible storyline is over and no one cares about him again. She needs a stable man in her life and Brooks is not it.
I’m just glad that we all know who to blame for the RH shows. Vicki! She created the RHOC and grew it into the franchise of 7 different shows. She did say 7 right? And to think we have been blaming Andy for all these years.
That was funny. As was Vicki thanking the ladies for letting her film the whole my mom just died scene. Vicki must have been somewhat out of it to say that. Oh well, Vicki is just done and tired, and beaten down. Best for her to ride off into the sunset.
BLOOP! ???
So much body language in the above pics of the ladies. Vicky is on the outside dejected pose. meghan turned back on Vicky but still in the middle. heather in the middle but with her hand out to block Shannon. Shannon prcatically hiding behind heather and with head bowed like a scared little dog . Tamra on the out, showing her muscle- like yeah she is the power, the bully.
LOL Brooks hit on Brianna when she was pregnant. Is she offended because her PTSD husband wouldnt hit on her when she was prego?
Well that’s in extremely poor taste. I don’t mean to be oversensitive but PTSD is no joke, especially to people who watched family members nearly die because of it. Soldiers take their lives every day suffering from it.
“her ptsd husband wouldn’t?”
not cool.
Spoken like a true asswipe. Are you related to Brooks?
That is fucked up. He is not the best man but he served our country and has a lot of psychological and physical damage from it. You don’t make snarky comments about that.
That is cruel. Really cruel.
Hey FORBESLIST:
PTSD is not a joke! It’s VERY real…it almost killed my husband. Your comment sucks. Period.
I have to say Vicki has a nice figure and all, but that deep V neck dress exposed, WAY too much of her girls. Nobody’s saying she needs to dress like an old grandma, but you are a grandmother and a woman of a certain age…your boobs shouldn’t be 90% showing in your dress, cmon.
She would’ve looked so much better if she’d covered up just a tad.
Do you remember Vicki’s talking head when she told Tamra that she is “a grandmother, so start acting like one”? If that wasn’t the pot calling the kettle black. I’m not sure how a “grandmother” is suppose to act, but Vicki is not a prime example.
I do, that’s funny lol. They do a lot of that on these shows, strange considering they should realize all the examples of blatant hypocrisy will be played back lol
I think Vicki spends a lot of money on her clothes, but it usually seems to me that if she would just buy them one size bigger they would look nice on her. The dress she wore to the baptism is a perfect example, it should not be so wrinkled through the middle. A better fit would have fixed that.
The dress Vicki wore to the baptism has ruching on the front. It’s not wrinkles, it’s a deliberate look. The dress fits fine.
But she’s proud of those clunkers, lol. Vicki would look years younger if she reduced them and dressed stylishly.
i agree
I think the brown hair makes Meghan look like Kelly Bensimmone from New York. Love the story about Vicki’s mom.
I didnt think the funny story Vicki told about her mom was very funny.
I did, from Vickys perspective.
@Zen….not true…it. DOES get better with time….It takes time….it hurts like hell….but it DOES get better. Thinking that the hurt will never get better is a stage during the grieving process. I was in that stage for almost a year that this will not get better, but it does…..hold on.
I hope it does get better, Simone. I’m just past year 3 and it’s still tough. I’ll be 50 next month…how I wish she could be here to celebrate.
And why was Meghan dressed like a 45 year old secretary?
COD, comment of the day, khintx. She looked like a scared giraffe to me, too.
None of these women are likable or believable and I am not buying Tamra’s religious fervor for one minute. As for Briana..I don’t believe her at all and think that she’s a terrible person who is totally disloyal to her mother. Even if she hates Brooks and everything she says is true, she still should not have said what she has said on television. She is a famewhore just like the rest of them and they give her way too much importance considering that she isn’t a Housewife. She allowed herself to be a part of the big storyline regarding her mother and Brooks and she was ready, willing and able to throw her mother under the bus. Vicki looked miserable and I’m sure that she knew what was coming and was just waiting for it to be over. Heather, Meghan, Shannon and Tamra all deserve each other and are each as fake as hell. I doubt that they are “real” friends because Heather would NEVER hang out with women who she sees as beneath her. Tamra is a liar and Shannon is a nasty drama queen who isn’t much better than Vicki when it comes to hysterical behavior and screaming and shouting. Her voice grates on me and she exploited here children so there’s nothing to admire about this awful person. Both David and Jim Edmonds are dullards with zero personality and I was bored by both of them throughout the season. I’m glad that this will soon be over and if Bravo had any class (which they don’t), they would dump the entire cast and start fresh. Sadly, Andy and Bravo love this crap and will do everything to encourage the bashing and accusing in every way possible. Even though Brooks is a sleazy guy I don’t think that he’d hit on Briana pregnant or not.. All in all I was disgusted by all of them and I hope that karma bites them all in the ass.
As Tamara has noted, Brianna’s very obvious and worsening weight gain is a physical representation that something in her life is not going well, at all. Her vigilance in protecting her disturbed husband and refusal to even acknowledge his alarming and frankly, terrifying, behavior, in seasons past says a lot to me about what goes in her own marriage. In these kinds of situations it’s a lot easier to project all your anger, resentment, and misplaced aggression onto others rather than to release it in your own home and then have to deal with the consequences. I think that if Brianna was happier in her own life and in her own marriage, her stance on the whole Brooks thing would be similar to her brother’s. Which seems to be: “yeah he has some skeletons in the closet and perhaps shifty at times, but my mom is an adult and if something makes her feel happy, then I respect that and I’ll leave it alone.” If Brooks is as truly awful as Brianna makes him out to be, I would hope that she would trust and respect her mother’s judgment enough to know that in time, Vicki would tire of his problems and move on, just as she did with her exes.
Also, if Brianna is really concerned about the safety of her children, she should consider her own husband’s criminal history of domestic violence and work on getting him the help he needs, rather than deflecting on to Brooks. Brooks has never even met her children. He has never used the aggressive, hostile tone her husband was using against a stranger, an elderly woman who was tired and in pain on screen. If anything, Brooks seems like someone who is an embarrassing drunk, blacks out, and has no filter when he drinks too much–that’s his personal problem. I wholeheartedly agree with Tamara–Brianna is someone who is furiously making mountains out of molehills to distract herself from her own unhappiness.
Briana’s “obvious and worsening weight gain” must be a “physical representation of something in her life is not going well”? So all fat people have something wrong in their lives? Women who have two children within 3 yrs and work a stressful job don’t gain weight? They have to have something wrong in their lives? How about women who have had their thyroid removed? That has nothing to due with weight gain?
Can we stop the fat shaming? I, for one, find it offensive. Talk to me about metabolism and public perception of being overweight when you have had your thyroid removed or have graves disease.
Amen, Angel. Enough with fat shaming and thin shaming. Look at all the insults heaped on those who get bariatric surgery. Some one can be an alcoholic drug addicted sex addict and it’s a disease, but being overweight is a moral failure.
Spot-on Angel. And I thought Brianna said she worked 2 jobs after his back surgery. Not to be her apologist, because I think something is deeply screwy with that couple. But “fat” does not equal “wrong”.
As someone reminded us all here recently, Briana had her thyroid removed a few years ago. Weight gain is a major side effect of that, as your body produces zero thyroid hormone which controls your metabolism. So I would imagine after having two babies, and no thyroid whatsoever, she would be struggling with weight gain.
Give me a break. I was not fat-shaming her and I’m frankly sick of that word getting thrown around. Why is it offensive and shaming to note a major physical change? Pointing out an obvious change in weight is not shaming anybody–I never insulted her. Any type of drastic change in weight is a sign of something going wrong, mentally or physically or both. If her weight gain is indeed simply a result of a thyroid or health-related condition, I would think she would focus on her health and well-being for her sake and for her children’s rather than passionately interfering in her mother’s dating life on a regular basis on national TV, while pounding drinks with the likes of Tamra. Enough with the fat-shaming bullshit already.
@Alessa949 – The fact that you ask what is wrong with pointing out her weight tells me that you are ignorant. How about you have your thyroid removed and see if you gain any weight? She had a cancer scare and when you have tumors on your thyroid they remove it. Her weight has nothing to do with any situation on RHOC. It’s a cheap shot.
Actually, Alessa is pointing out that Briana gained A LOT! Like 30 pounds or more during filming. Thyroid or no thyroid, that is something that should cause concern.
I agree with TT. I don’t think anyone is trying to “fat shame” Breanna, it’s just that she put on weight just during this season. I think it was TT that said she was “eating her feelings”. I really think that is true. She stated that she was unhappy in OK and maybe that is some of the problem. There is nothing wrong with the fact that she gained weight, but it is noticeable so people may point it out.
You would be surprised how much weight you can pack on in 4 years without a thyroid. It just creeps up and you have to work twice as hard to get it off. She has been pregnant twice since her surgery and works. Gaining 30 lbs when your pregnant is nothing. It’s very hard to find workout time when you have small children. If I want to be my ideal weight, I can only eat 500 calories a day. Anything over 500 has to be exercised off. You are put on thyroid replacement but it is never the same. I speak because I’ve been there.
You don’t like her or her husband fine. But don’t make a blanket statement judging someone’s life based on their looks. If she has said “possibly” perhaps it might have made a difference. Off to the WLS I suppose.
We are not talking about how much she packed on in four years. We are talking about how much she packed on in between episodes this season. Just because you are overly sensitive, doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge the fast growing elephant in the room.
I’m ignorant because I pointed out she gained weight? What’s the first thing a doctor has you do when you walk in for your appointment? What’s one of the first health-related questions a psychologist will ask you during an intake appointment? Are they fat-shaming too? A big change in weight is a sign of something going on, period. Sounds like you’re doing a lot projection based on your personal experiences, which have nothing to do with my observations about a reality TV show figure we’re all here to discuss. Sorry if it brought stuff up for you but I was not fat-shaming her in any way. My point was that I think she would be a lot happier if she focused on her own health and happiness rather than being so deeply and publicly invested in her mother’s dating life, that’s all.
Brianna is probably on a thyroid replacement hormone, and these drugs usually cause weight loss not gain. I have two friends who have had their thyroids removed and are on Synthroid, and they are both really skinny.
MZU, ITA. Meghan attempted to start bashing Vicki with the remark, “you think about Andy in the shower.” I’m so glad she was ignored. Over all this was the most boring reunion, ever.
I wonder if MEK had a comeback when the HW’s were talking about her bashing Jims 2nd wife? Heather seemed to have nipped it. MEK never confronts Heather. Maybe she hasn’t had a reason to. I know they showed Meg looking like a brat-deer in headlights,maybe they edited her comment out? That was wrong on so many levels. No matter how you feel about the other parent, you don’t speak negative about them.
Maybe I am too old school, I would never disrespect my Mama.It would never be an option and I like my teeth too much. I don’t care my age, she is my Mom. If there was an issue like with Vicki and Brianna are having, we would discuss it in private. Never in public, definitely not on TV.
I noticed that when Andy was yammering about Tamra’s (alleged) conversion, he said her “reinvention” instead of her “conversion” or her “experience” or whatever…he actually used the word REINVENTION! Ha! The devil is in the details. I don’t even think he was throwing shade, it was like he used the word that was the natural one that flowed to his tongue from his real thoughts.
Every now and then, Andy is pretty astute.
100% agree with Tamara, Brianna does make mountains out of molehills. Not to mention has to be a little brain washed by her hubby, and she absolutely is a shit stirrer. You can love your child and know what they are. I understood Vicky saying that, Brianna the spoiled little b has caused her a lot of grief.
For once I agree with Andy; Vicki was clearly on something. Not just grief or pain or anticipating the dog-pile she was in for. But actual pharmaceutical. She was doped up.
Correct, she could have had some minor surgery done during that taping. Perhaps she perks up a bit as the reunion goes on. But it really was nice to not hear the whole lot of them yelling over each other.
What does OG stand for…oh, nevermind?.
Don’t feel bad I asked the question a couple of weeks back. That is why I knew the answer. ?
Ole Grumpy
Original Grandma
Are the ratings so poor that they had to fashion table cloths and a single sheer curtain into a primitive form of dress? Tim from project runways shields his eyes lest he be turned to stone.
Wow. And I mean wow. I read this re cap, and comments over the past week. I’m home alone (sober!) watching, finally. Tamara is so shallow and opportunistic, you can see it in her eyes, and she’s nervous-like a stuck pig. I’ve had those type on the witness stand, and it’s hard to not rip their face off. (Normally, you want to, but it can backfire on you, as a woman going after a woman, in front of a jury) . Meagan’s make up artist is either a mysoginist or retarded. She looks washed out and PLAIN. Vicki’s face says it all. I’m not a fan of anyone on this show, but the phoneyness of all things we know of SO CAL is being played out by the “right couch”. Super disgusted. It’s all bullshit, and Vicki knows it.
Please don’t compare Tamra to Charles Colson. He founded “PRISON FELLOWSHIPS” in 1976 AFTER he served time in prison. He authored over 30 books on Christianity and devoted his life to prison reform before dying, practically on the job when he fell during a speech in 2012 at a Christian worldview conference and died 3 weeks later of a cerebal hemmorage. We’ll see what Tamra does with her prominence from the show besides the fitness competition. ( she does look great, I have to admit).